I went to a presentation, wasted 2 hours of my vacation but I received a $100 gift card and my hotel was paid for 7 days. The look on their faces when I said I’m not interested was hilarious
Absolutely a total waste, but I think those gifts and stay do make it worth it, imo. Seems like you got a better package than me though! I still had to paid $150 for 3 nights. You've done good 👍
in my personal opinion if you had a good vacation, and got $100.00 than it didn't waste 2 hours of your time, maybe theirs tho. that said DO NOT BUY A TIMESHARE. but as long as you can say no, feel free to take advantage of their promotions
Haha nothing the Timeshare agents said was going to convince me, we held STRONG! Haha there were sooo many Timeshare employees there in Stage 1. Great breakdown!
My Hilton timeshare meeting is on the 13 of this month . I’ll keep you posted on how it goes. With Marriott It was super easy . But it lasted 3 hours ..I acted interested the whole time then at the end said I was going to buy a house and I didn’t want it to affect the first time homebuyer program . And they said it wouldn’t And I told them “ well I don’t want to take any chances just in case “ And they offered to bring me back for the same price . 5 nights stay in Hawaii for 800 and a couple of Marriott points . I do remember being super hungry at the end
So my deal was $765 for 6 nights in Honolulu and 15k HA Miles. I still have not gotten my miles yet . In the first stage I raised my hand in the group and said you know those points cost $7 a point. The lady that was trying to sell me was bragging about her employee rates $80 night at Waldorf Astoria that costs $1000. They lie constantly they made me sit for 2hrs plus . I got no email or anything after just sign and go I think miles take longer . Lastly the manager said ohh that’s all they offered you we got people getting hundreds of thousands of Hilton points that sucks I was like that is all I got offered.
Oh not bad for a stay at Honolulu. Interesting, not sure if we would have the exact same experience but after your meeting did they have you sign a sheet saying you attended the timeshare meeting? Because that was the only way we got our Hilton points. If so, or even if not so, I would give them a call and ask them to honor the gift. Right! Those timeshare people lie all the time, we countered by saying the Hilton Aspire credit card is actually better and they told us they have the Hilton Aspire card but didn't know about any of the benefits. Eh, HA Miles seem better than Hilton points, especially when each of them are worth half a cent, haha.
@@CalbyNg so I finally got my 15k ha miles I value them at 1 cent a point it’s equal to getting 60k miles and the Hilton Waikiki beach was really nice decent vacation definitely 4 star hotel . I’m thinking about doing Marriott or blue grass it looks like I have to wait a year before I can do HGV again.
Timeshare presentations are like a mortal kombat tower challenge and it keeps getting harder the higher you go, if you keep saying no you will win fatality style.
Last time I went to one of these, I told them straight up, "We will never buy one of these, so let's not waste our time. Now give us the free tickets you promised and we'll be on our way." They didn't give us any grief and let us move on.
HGV bills it as an “owner’s update”. When we go we tell them right upfront we are here for the update but we are not buying anything. We do sit there through their presentation though. Then we collect the freebies and leave.
Here’s what I do: Go in wearing modest clothes, and a small notepad and pen. When you check in, write your name down and show the clerk… eventually they will ask, are you mute or can’t speak? Nod your head and smile, being as polite as possible. When they ask questions, write down your answers, and just stick with the plan. They quickly realize after you write the word “No” several times that you’re not going to speak. They will give up, and when signing out after getting the reward, politely say, “Thank you, this was a pleasant experience” and walk off. I’ve done dozens of these, usually in resorts or Vegas, and it works like a charm everytime. I even had a salesman stop me on my way out laughing and saying the tactic was very clever. You owe them nothing, give them nothing, get your reward.
@@mikermiks5784 then you didn’t do it right. Nothing being done violates any other terms and agreements. If you left early, that’s on you. I don’t leave until they are frustrated to the point they give up and usher me to the claim table.
@freek1318 oh but it is absolutely true. People confuse personality and character allowing financial vultures to ruin lives and create nightmare for naive buyers.
I am a timeshare salesman and started last year. I have never once sold anything like that in never once pressured anyone. I always was meaningful when i spoke with someone and i genuinely care for people in general and believe everyone deserves respect. So i am always kind. If they want it, i help them. If they dont. I dont sit here and bully them. I tell them from the beginning that no matter what they decided to do today. That the most important thing to me is for them just to have a good time with me today. The reason i say that is because when they say no at the end, it does not bother me. I believe if it was meant to be it will be. I refuse to bully anyone into doing somthin they dont feel comfortable doing. So i am not like most salesman. There for you can not persecute me and say i am like the rest and that i am a vulture who takes advantage of people and if you do then you are just prejudice for thinking that way and you dont have a kind heart which is fine. But i only am commenting to try and help people understand that not all people in sales are like that. I hope that you can understand that.
@@freek1318 My guess is that those timeshare operations (why do they still exist?) that are associated with famous brands, like Hilton, Marriott, etc. do have to protect the brand name somewhat. But, I am also guessing that those who are purely timeshare operations may use hard sell tactics. Timeshares are an insane nonsense. The inclusion of "in perpetuity" in their contracts makes them financially super dangerous. Their customer service, I hear from videos, are nothing more than buying more time share contracts. I find it difficult how can anyone still get fooled to get into these contracts. I read that cars depreciation 10% when driven off the lot, RV's depreciation 30%, but timeshare contracts the moment after signing depreciate 100%.. You cannot even give them away or in many cases cancel, per these articles. An acquaintance of mine had a timeshare salesmen as peresonal friend, and the salesman told my work buddy that he felt like timeshare salespeople have no souls, but the money is good if you can live with what you are doing to people. This is what I heard and read about these things. Personally, I cannot imagine what niche of population for whom these contracts would be of an advantage, except for salespeople, and these organizations.
I would never buy a timeshare! It's such a scam. I know someone that has one and I couldn't believe that every time they go back to that place, they have to attend another meeting to try and scam them to upgrade! Unbelievable.
Ohhh now that's something I've never heard of; didn't realize even though you bought a timeshare you need to continue attending meetings. I was thinking it was a one and done situation, but that's terrible.
Thought it was a good idea to get a nice place for 9k and get to use it every year with RCI. I was nice back in 2011 when there was not AirBNB etc. But now I do not feel it is worth it anymore. I just might rent it out to make the maintenance fees back. I tried to give it back lets see if they take it back @@CalbyNg
Isnt it a bigger scam for you to take there money and be disrespectful to the people just trying to do there job then leave? While that person makes no money because it based on commission. So whats the big scam? Who leaves with money?
@@freek1318 That is why I don't go to Time Share presentations. Saleman looks at potential buyers as Suckers. Lowly educated salesman is there to make quick & easy money.
Promo to stay at the Hilton Grand Vacations Club for 3 nights for a total of $129!!… and all I have to do, is sit in this 2HR+ presentation?? Aight bet!! I’ll come fully prepared and equipped with my weed edibles/water/snacks/popcorn on deck to enjoy the show 😎
I'm owner of HGV and i LOVE my ownership BUT i travel a LOT!!!!!! If you don't go on a vacation almost 100 days a year it's a matter of fact that timeshares will not work for you.
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Another exit strategy for getting smoothly through the presentation and getting your "reward" for wasted time is to say quickly YES but ask for the contract so you can get advice from your lawyer. And yes, there will be 2-4 persons trying to convince you, but your argument will and should always be: I am not getting into a deal without getting proper consultations with my lawyer, let alone trust you just on your word and wire the money. They realised that I was stubborn as hell, and there was 0% chance of getting me signed anything. The last person was a bit more aggressive, but I raised my tone to the point which the f*ck are you to tell me what I can and what I can't do. He saw that the conversation escalated and everyone could hear it, and just wanted to get rid of me. Singed the paper and went to the reception to pick up the "rewards". Overall, say YES and ask for the contract. It might be easier for you to get out without listening to all their bullshits.
Haha I love that y'all made that experience into a positive one. Personally, I just hate having to deal with stuff like that so I'll use my points instead for my bookings, but for balling on a budget, attending these meetings (and NOT buying anything) could be a decent strategy! Nice video Calby 👊🏼
My husband and I bought a time share over 20 years ago. It was of benefit to us for the first 18 years. Every year it went further downhill, until the last 2 years, where we didn't go but paid the maintenance fee. to finish out our contract. Overall, the purchase and the maintenance fees were cheaper than what it would have cost us for a full vacation over the years because the cost of everything in resort areas went up. We are actively in concert with around 80 people going through the attorney general trying to get back some of the money we paid over the last 2 years due to the current owners not honoring the contracts. We are lucky, though, we only had a contract for 20 years. For those that did those lifetime contracts, yikes.
I got into a timeshare presentation for Hilton this past weekend in Orlando and it was very annoying because they told me it would be 2 hrs but it ended up being more than 4 (and I missed the first few hrs of EDC... 😒), they put a hispanic guy specifically to talk to me because my name sounds definitely hispanic, I showed myself very enthusiastic all the time and everything went to the teeth, just exactly as you're describing, step by step: the personal story (the guy told me that his mom had cancer and all the money he earned in this job was sent to her), the "bonding", the supposed benefits, etc., but he started the presentation saying something like: "what if I told you, paying 150 dollars a month during 10 years you will be able to stay in any hilton hotel for the rest of your life?" I knew it was too good to be truth, then he tried to gaslight me telling me that I would be spending less money with the points than what I'm currently spending with my yearly travels, but what really killed it, obviously, were the maintenance fees, that's like the main curse in the tineshare, I would be paying 1500 for the rest of my life, and I asked him exactly this and his answer was "yes, until you sell it to someone else", I think he knew he f*cked up! 😅 He couldn't find a way to disguise the answer because at first he was trying to sell the fees as a good thing "we can keep the hotels in pristine condition for other owners, we're like a family looking for each other, it's just like when you have a car, you own it but you can give it maintenence once a year so it works properly", I told him I had to think about it and during that time I googled as fast as I could everything related to timeshares, then I saw that the packages (Hilton Grand Vacations) were rated with 1 to 1.5 stars everywhere and everyone talked ill about it, everyone saying "DO NOT BUY IT" and Facebook groups against it, I knew I had to say no and I got the determination to do it, when the guy came back i didn't hesitate, then they sent another lady to try to convince me to buy another package, she tried to "appeal" to me speaking in Spanish (because she supposedly had a mexican husband) but her Spanish was so poor and so broken I couldn't understand a thing of what she said, and I was kinda spacing out thinking of how evil timeshares were and how they were ruining thousands of people's lives, how much of a scam they were and I simply ended up telling her "I think I'll pass on this one" and she asked me why but I just told her again: "yea, I'll pass... 😅", she ended up very angry and frustrated and told me: "ok, go to the front desk to pick your prize for attending the presentation". I know I dodged a huge bullet here and have been mulling this over the weekend, then after some research I found that these things are inherited as well and these companies are trying to destroy in court anyone trying to get people out of their timeshares, this is probably the biggest kind of scam backed up by the law that I have ever seen in my life, I wish I could tell everyone thinking about signing how terrible this is.
I once considered buying a re-sale timeshare in New Orleans. The annual fee was $500...for one week, and the whole complex was closed for repairs at the time due to hurricane damage. Talk about a bad deal....you couldn't give that thing away.
I went to a presentation once not knowing that it was for timeshare sales. Later when I realized, I did a quick research on google on what to expect and how to act. I just couldnt hold my laugh because everything you said in this video is 100% spot on. Lol there were 2 different "higher up" people who came to talk to me as I kept saying no and I just burst out in laughter as they keep lowering the prices. Lol the agent even said "why are you laughing?" 😂 Overall, it was a good learning experience, but I wouldnt do it again. Thank god I already knew about not signing up for a Timeshare. And yes, their faces were priceless.
I was stuck in a timeshare presentation for three hours, just to get two Disney tickets for free! They initially asked for 25K then lowered the price to 2K at the end but I declined because I've started to inquire about the yearly membership fee...😆
Love it! Just finished a 3 hour timeshare presentation at Pueblo Bonito...my wife and I played good cop bad cop. We ended up getting $400 in benefits by way of a party boat and dinner cruise. It was fun but yeah...you have to be on your guard!
It’s not a scam if you use your ownership and actually stay in nice resorts that would normally charge several hundred dollars per night. Do that twice per year for 20 years and you certainly benefited. If you don’t use it then it’s a waste of money.
Nice Video! I have one upcoming in January for Hilton in Vegas as well. I wanted to compare since I just did an IHG timesharebpresentation last month and it appears similar to Hilton in all the lame ways....
Thanks! Oooo nice, I actually enjoyed the Vegas area more than I first thought, but have fun at the timeshare, haha. Oh I didn't even think about IHG offering a timeshare; I just know of Marriott's and Hyatt's. I'll have to check out IHG, thanks for that!
I have a video coming out next week on the IHG presentation. But basically, IHG’s offer is targeted, so you may not know. But 70k IHG pts is nice. @@CalbyNg
@@regalnut86 If you don't have any intent to buy one, u should be fine. Their prices are much higher than other hotel brands (Choice); or just tell me u stay in hotels for free because u use pts; u will be out in a minutes.
One time I attended to this timesheet meeting presentation and lady told me that Disneyland in Orlando cost $10K but with timeshare it will only be annual fee. I was like 10K? Then I took my phone and I showed her AirBNB lol.
The problem with Time Shares, even HGVC of which I have been a member since 2009 - is Maintenance Fees. For desirable locations, Maintenance Fees may be almost $2K for your “active” year - which, while not being equal to the amount you would pay for something like the Hilton Hawaiian Village for a week, it is approaching maybe 35-40% of that amount. So when you add on what you already paid for the Time Share, and take into account the fact that Maintenance Fees NEVER go away - that is why they make no sense for most people. Yes, you can sometimes get good deals if you book within a certain timeframe (like $1,200 for a week in Hawaii if you can go within 30 days). But a lot of people can’t take advantage of that.
Wait hold on, if I’m understanding you correctly; you have to pay to stay somewhere on top of the yearly fees?! That’s insane! And you don’t have access to every property? That’s not how the salespeople made it sound; that really sucks.
@@CalbyNg No - what I'm saying is - say you pay $30K for your timeshare. You then have to pay, say $2K in Maintenance Fees each year that you stay. So if you have an every other year deal like we do - for the years that you stay, you pay maintenance fees. For your "off years" - you pay dues. In 2022 ("on year") we paid $1,665. In 2023 ("off year") we paid $199. For this year we will pay $1,890.79 (notice that huge increase, btw). Paying cash for our room would be something like $550/night, so that is $3,850, plus maybe another $500 for misc. resort BS. Let's call it $4,500. So you could say that you are paying $1,890 for something that would cost you $4,500 if you weren't part of HGVC. However - you already paid $30K to buy it in the first place. Those are the numbers you need to understand. It will ultimately pay for itself, but it will take many years.
I have a timeshare presentation in a couple days (purely for the points) but I also work for naval aviation so I get to stay at all these resorts for free, plus I make per diem off of it lol can’t wait to see them struggle on explaining how their deal is better than what I got.
My celebrity was Usher - Lol. i said no, and they keep sending me more extravagant offers and im like are you SURE you want to let me go to mexico for a week so i can tell you NO again???
We did one, stayed at a nice hotel resort for 3 days and spent half of those 3 days in a timeshare meeting. It took hours but after it was done we were free.
I went to Myrtle Beach for a Hilton timeshare presentation. First, they offered points when I was making a phone booking to be sold the package, then they gave me a 4 day stay for $220 after tax, with a $200 certificate (lots of restrictions, you're locked into one brand, any value above one night's rate doesn't carry over, etc). Overall not bad, and it gave me an excuse to use my Aspire resort credit. And the $200 Embassy credit will pair nicely with the July-December resort credit. I didn't even need to lie, I just told the guy that I don't pay cash for hotel stays and that I wouldn't make a decision the same day for a major purchase, and he admitted that it wouldn't be a good fit for me.
Damn how long were you there...sounds like more then a 90 min presentations... I just go, set my timer for 90 mins and when done, say, OK where's my free gift...😂
they held me and my wife for 2 hours on one of those. the free gift was a dinner on a fancy restaurant, except they "forgot" to register our ticket for the free dinner when he didn't wanted to buy it(we didn't have the money lol)
you will OWN nothing...haha man these are a great deal to get discounted stays during busy weekends. Worth the time and I used it as an entertainment opportunity
Hahaha for sure; I feel like most people know timeshares are a scam but keep falling for them. At the very least, like you said, they are great to take advantage of 😼
I asked if I decided I didn’t wantit could get rid of it. He said we might buy it back or you could just Quit the deal paying. Then he told me It’s not linear would garnish your wages. You would just get a few letters in the mail. I was talking about owning not financing. So all I was thinking of Was the HOA FEES. They got close to getting me. But I don’t buy anything that a salesman says without a cooling off period.
I love the hidden benefits you get from attending these. This year I’ve gotten a $129 4 night hotel, a taxes/port fee only cruise for 2, 50,000 Marriott points, and just overall lovely
You can short the whole sales process by simply, and in a loud voice so other suckers, oops I mean potential customers, can hear you. Just say. "I am very interested but will only consider signing if you amend the contract to include a clause that allows me to cancel any time without cost or any other further payments owing". This will sent the sales people into a spin because nobody in the room has the authority to agree to variations in the contract. Guaranteed you will immediately be marched to the exit to collect your attendance prize.
I’m gonna have to go to a meeting soon cause I got a discounted vacation . Spent $200 for 5 nights which would of costed $800 . They can afford to do this since if they get you to buy a time share you’ll be spendings thousands over time .
I love my hilton timeshare! And i am comfused why you asmitted to lying to them but saying all timeshares are a scam. I think thats an unfair blanket statement.
I did the math on a timeshare in the Bahamas. First of all you don’t always get the dates you want. In fact for the first few years you won’t get the dates you want. The time share you are shown is always in a great location. The one you get will be in a less desirable spot. The upfront fees and the weekly fees are enormous. I compared it to a week of my choice and the cost per week and found it to be much cheaper than buying a timeshare. Putting the money in the bank earning interest worked out much better. Only other thing. People who get a timeshare are told they can get reservations for the restaurants. We sat next to a couple with a time share who told us they had to book almost two weeks in advance. When I told them I booked an hour ago she was angry. It appears the owners give preference to hotel guests. Admittedly I have only looked at a few times shares but in all cases I have not found them to be anywhere a good value.
Listen everyone......literally read the fine print in whatever you sign up for...get in writing...stay alotted time... and grab your goodies and leave! 😂 done it several of times..may take 90 min-3 hrs of your time.. its just what you think is what your time is worth
Ha, looking at the commentors I can tell you're in the credit card game. We sold ourselves on a Hilton Timeshare 2 years ago and regret it. We were already thinking about buying, and jumped into resale before our presentation package. $100 for a timeshare sounded good on the surface, until you realize you're not saving enough money, and you're exposed to Florida insurance and infrastructure legislation. We ended up trading it back for a $2,200 contract in Las Vegas, which is costing us $650 per year less. Fees in Florida are going up 9.5% next year, in Las Vegas, 3.75%. In a nutshell, we're going to be staying in Waikiki every other year, at half the price of the hotels, let alone beach resorts.
100% correct on never buying a timeshare direct and only ever using the secondary online market for free. They have no value and literally offer no savings on vacations. I promise. Our company only exists because of these owners who realize their mistakes and wants out. It's even difficult for owners looking for help to get out because many companys even scam you on the way out. The only reason we are successful is because we dont charge anything until after you're out and with no high marks ups or waiting periods. Even then, it's hard to hear through the noise because of all these other fly by night businesses and corporations.
Oh man, I have heard of the scam of people trying to get out of timeshares and paying for the fees upfront; I think John Oliver covered it, pretty crazy. Just curious what does your company do? Is it like a legal law firm way out? Or do you all just call the timeshare and annoy them, haha. And, if you're willing to, share the name of your business in case others want to reach out.
@@CalbyNg completely legal. It just depends on your situation. If the timeshare is paid off, meaning no mortgage, and it just has the annual maintenance fees, then we transfer it. We have several companies we partner with who will accept the transfer of ownership as long as we pay all the associated costs. If the timeshare does have an active mortgage, a loan on it, then we need to cancel out the ownership contract+mortgage. This is where you need a lawyer. We use of one of the two firms we partner with and the fact that your consumer rights have been violated at the time of sale (which they always are) to get the contract cancelled out. We do this work with no money upfront, so no payment until the client is satisfied, and we guarantee our work for life.
The reality is not all companies have the same morals . And it’s pretty hypocritical to think setting your family up while on vacation to go see a “timeshare presentation” for 90-120 minutes because of a “Good deal” is a great idea. If you’re not a fan of the way the timeshares work then why continue to ride the coat tails of their marketing packages. Just save money and pay for a vacation on your own and guess what, no presentations lol you don’t have to do all this planning to say no . Nothing admirable about it.
The problem is I'm the kind of guy who can't say "No". I wish I watched this vid earlier or did a little more research but they blocked the internet so I couldn't check. Long story short. AVOID TIMESHARES!!! I won't go into anymore presentations cuz again I just can't say "no". >:(
Going to a timeshare or going to a timeshare meeting? I went to a timeshare meeting because they gave me reduced rates for the hotel, along with Hilton points for a vacation I was already going to take.
I work for Hilton when it comes to time share, I’m gonna be honest it’s not for everyone is for the people that care where they stay they travel and have the money for it and again there’s no way that you can have a complain because you sign up to it we do not make you come or manipulate you to come it’s your own decision to come to the presentation and if for you coming for 2 hours just to say no and also get gifts is a hassle go camping 😂😂
my Holiday Inn fees was 550 for a week of time shares back in 2012 which was pretty good value, but they double every other year and now they are 1600 for that week in 2024 which i can book for much cheaper on any website
I went to one a few years ago. I got thrown out after about an hour. They finally realized I wasn't going to buy. I told them I was there for the free room. I was there for the SEMA show. I didn't even get a gift. Lol
Make them stick to the time limit they set for you, I said that I had to pick up my kids as they were with a babysitter that had to be relived. I was out right with them I only came for the gift card and I was not buying anything. I got my $200 gift card and ate and drank all I could.
Id say show me your passport for all these World travels you have done. I also am only looking for a place in North Korea period. No family story needed weirdo.
Love the passion of the salesman that “lost” a good friend that never got to travel. Their pitches are always similar. If you’re looking, buy one 2nd online. People are giving them away
Rest assured you're not saving money for sitting through a timeshare presentation. You're voluntarily accepting discount compensation for emotional abuse.
I wish I could have gone with you guys at the Vegas meet. I'm an expert in this field and specialize in the fundamental financial aspects of the timeshare game. They're selling an inferior product based on psychological manipulation. Pointing out how they dilute their value by giving away all these dirt-cheap rooms was wise. The point-and-mile programs we all love, devalue their product as well. Looking at current resale listings gives you an idea of what your exit strategy will be like 7-8 years later when 50% of timeshare owners want out. The bottom line is there is very little demand for their product, but they spend millions on shady sales techniques to trick people into buying.
Timeshare presentations are 💩💩💩 The tactics they use are something else. They gotta know that 99% of peeps aren't interested. Thanks for the info + video!
Ha! Honestly they might start insulting you very personally, they can be very mean. Otherwise, if you're okay with that they might just sit there with you. I believe one of my friends, who went to a different timeshare than me, said their salesperson gave up but had to keep them there a certain amount of time due to the rules.
My sister in was a rookie to this scam and she almost bought it. I said no for them. Saying no. She was upset at me at first but once we were bussed off. She was thankful to me. 😂😂😂
Sounds like timeshare companies have their employees train with car dealership salesman. Same type of hierarchy switching you to different salesman “managers” if you say no to their pitch. Colossal waste of time.
You should be able to travel as a group; however, it’s only required for the person booking the room and your spouse if you’re legally married; if not they aren’t required to go if they don’t want to.
Wife and i do them in vega. It's funny. They try and sell you a timeshare for 60k up front. Then at the very end when they are about to give up on you they will throw out the 3k offer for the same 60k deal. Lol. We still no thank you and then they get really rude and mean. Wife and I enjoy the show tickets and a free lunch. Get a break from walking around and the vegas heat for a couple of hours.
For me, yes; because it wasn’t that long and I paid $250 for the 3 day stay (where as other hotels during that time I would have paid $600 for a 3 day stay), but I also got $500 worth of value (Hilton Points) I used to book a property near Vail, CO. So in my opinion I don’t mind it; of course everyone is different, my buddy Luke Points and Miles would rather not, haha.
Imagine having a Time Share Wife with 25 other Husbands. How fun does that sound? How quick would you sign up for that? 😂And most guys never get their week after all those Mortgage Payments and Maintenance Fees. Do you think she’ll retain her initial “value?” 😂 And YOU SIGN UP FOR LIFE!!!😮
TOP TIP: Next time when dealing with the time share pushers - just stand up and yell out "THIS PLACE will be PERFECT as my HIDE OUT! Who here will join me as my GOON ARMY?!? MUUAHH AHH HAAA!" They will let you go immediately. source: my experience
I would love to go to one of these and just act absolutely insane. Randomly screaming and laughing, asking questions that make no sense (THE MEAT!!! WHERE'S THE MEAT!?!?!?), standing up doing random (but choreographed) dances with my boyfriend, loudly clapping in their faces when they talk, etc.
I love timeshare salespitch deals. Depends on the salesperson you get once I got a salesperson that was originally from India 5 minutes and he knew I wasn't going to buy anything so we spent half an hour talking about the best places in India to vacation, I still have notes from that chat. Also sometimes MVC has online salespitch deals, attend an online salespitch and get 50k Bonvoy points, super easy.
Oh wow that guy seems cool; just curious, did they have to keep you there a certain amount of time, instead of letting you go? I’ve seen those MVC deals! Glad you were able to take advantage of them! I signed up for one but they never got back up with me unfortunately 🥲
@@CalbyNg yes it seems like the 30 minutes minimum amount of time that he could tell his boss, I am not going to buy. With MVC I have always called the 800 number to signup.
"most workplaces only give you two weeks vacation" - jawdrop moment for me. In my country legal minimum is 4, 5 is standard and nicer jobs ofer 6 as a benefit. It is a small wonder there isn't more suicides in US
Ditto. In Australia its 4 weeks annual leave plus 10 public holidays plus typically long service leave after 10 years ( a once only extra 3 months off).
I went to a presentation, wasted 2 hours of my vacation but I received a $100 gift card and my hotel was paid for 7 days. The look on their faces when I said I’m not interested was hilarious
Absolutely a total waste, but I think those gifts and stay do make it worth it, imo. Seems like you got a better package than me though! I still had to paid $150 for 3 nights. You've done good 👍
Except for those who have a hard time saying "no". That's not me, but I know some ppl like that.
@@SewHappy061 Oh for sure, those people should totally not go to the timeshare meeting; those salespeople can be rough.
loser..
in my personal opinion if you had a good vacation, and got $100.00 than it didn't waste 2 hours of your time, maybe theirs tho. that said DO NOT BUY A TIMESHARE. but as long as you can say no, feel free to take advantage of their promotions
Haha nothing the Timeshare agents said was going to convince me, we held STRONG! Haha there were sooo many Timeshare employees there in Stage 1. Great breakdown!
My Hilton timeshare meeting is on the 13 of this month . I’ll keep you posted on how it goes.
With Marriott It was super easy . But it lasted 3 hours ..I acted interested the whole time then at the end said I was going to buy a house and I didn’t want it to affect the first time homebuyer program .
And they said it wouldn’t
And I told them “ well I don’t want to take any chances just in case “
And they offered to bring me back for the same price .
5 nights stay in Hawaii for 800 and a couple of Marriott points .
I do remember being super hungry at the end
That’s not a bad offer Fanta!
So my deal was $765 for 6 nights in Honolulu and 15k HA Miles. I still have not gotten my miles yet . In the first stage I raised my hand in the group and said you know those points cost $7 a point. The lady that was trying to sell me was bragging about her employee rates $80 night at Waldorf Astoria that costs $1000. They lie constantly they made me sit for 2hrs plus . I got no email or anything after just sign and go I think miles take longer . Lastly the manager said ohh that’s all they offered you we got people getting hundreds of thousands of Hilton points that sucks I was like that is all I got offered.
Oh not bad for a stay at Honolulu. Interesting, not sure if we would have the exact same experience but after your meeting did they have you sign a sheet saying you attended the timeshare meeting? Because that was the only way we got our Hilton points. If so, or even if not so, I would give them a call and ask them to honor the gift.
Right! Those timeshare people lie all the time, we countered by saying the Hilton Aspire credit card is actually better and they told us they have the Hilton Aspire card but didn't know about any of the benefits. Eh, HA Miles seem better than Hilton points, especially when each of them are worth half a cent, haha.
@@CalbyNg so I finally got my 15k ha miles I value them at 1 cent a point it’s equal to getting 60k miles and the Hilton Waikiki beach was really nice decent vacation definitely 4 star hotel . I’m thinking about doing Marriott or blue grass it looks like I have to wait a year before I can do HGV again.
Who is vacationing to the Midwest ?😂😂
Haha! Cheaper hotels bud 😂
get a life
Ah, we found a timeshare salesperson 💸
lmao
anything else?
I love when they get angry when they realize it’s just not going to happen.
Ha! Right!! Like what were they expecting?
We had one that got super upset. Next day took away any deal that they offered before the meeting.
Math logic analytical thinking and a desire to travel and stay more than in airport hotels
lol I want to see that face too hahaha
😂 Dude was so mad I wasn’t going to budge.
Timeshare presentations are like a mortal kombat tower challenge and it keeps getting harder the higher you go, if you keep saying no you will win fatality style.
Ha! That's a good way to put it 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Last time I went to one of these, I told them straight up, "We will never buy one of these, so let's not waste our time. Now give us the free tickets you promised and we'll be on our way." They didn't give us any grief and let us move on.
Whoa that's interesting; our wouldn't let us go until the time limit was up.
HGV bills it as an “owner’s update”. When we go we tell them right upfront we are here for the update but we are not buying anything. We do sit there through their presentation though. Then we collect the freebies and leave.
Here’s what I do: Go in wearing modest clothes, and a small notepad and pen. When you check in, write your name down and show the clerk… eventually they will ask, are you mute or can’t speak? Nod your head and smile, being as polite as possible. When they ask questions, write down your answers, and just stick with the plan. They quickly realize after you write the word “No” several times that you’re not going to speak. They will give up, and when signing out after getting the reward, politely say, “Thank you, this was a pleasant experience” and walk off.
I’ve done dozens of these, usually in resorts or Vegas, and it works like a charm everytime. I even had a salesman stop me on my way out laughing and saying the tactic was very clever. You owe them nothing, give them nothing, get your reward.
WRONG. NEVER walk into a timeshare presentation anywhere ever....
I tried this and they retracted my free hotel because this fails the requirements of going to the meeting
@@mikermiks5784 then you didn’t do it right. Nothing being done violates any other terms and agreements. If you left early, that’s on you. I don’t leave until they are frustrated to the point they give up and usher me to the claim table.
Bro that was Joey Fatone
That part had my DYING! "He's like an actor? Or something..."
Some people are too young to actually know who he is!!!
@@jamesburke2110I’m too young for the Beetles but I still know who they all are. 😂
I had to stop the video in shock. 🤣 The age difference makes sense tho. 😁
Joey Fatone dissed me at Bon Jovi concert in Tampa in 2006 🤣🤣🤣. I got no love.
You got this one right. They try to pretend that they are your best friend, so that you will feel bad telling them NO.
Not true
@freek1318 oh but it is absolutely true. People confuse personality and character allowing financial vultures to ruin lives and create nightmare for naive buyers.
I am a timeshare salesman and started last year. I have never once sold anything like that in never once pressured anyone. I always was meaningful when i spoke with someone and i genuinely care for people in general and believe everyone deserves respect. So i am always kind. If they want it, i help them. If they dont. I dont sit here and bully them. I tell them from the beginning that no matter what they decided to do today. That the most important thing to me is for them just to have a good time with me today. The reason i say that is because when they say no at the end, it does not bother me. I believe if it was meant to be it will be. I refuse to bully anyone into doing somthin they dont feel comfortable doing. So i am not like most salesman. There for you can not persecute me and say i am like the rest and that i am a vulture who takes advantage of people and if you do then you are just prejudice for thinking that way and you dont have a kind heart which is fine. But i only am commenting to try and help people understand that not all people in sales are like that. I hope that you can understand that.
@@freek1318 My guess is that those timeshare operations (why do they still exist?) that are associated with famous brands, like Hilton, Marriott, etc. do have to protect the brand name somewhat. But, I am also guessing that those who are purely timeshare operations may use hard sell tactics. Timeshares are an insane nonsense. The inclusion of "in perpetuity" in their contracts makes them financially super dangerous. Their customer service, I hear from videos, are nothing more than buying more time share contracts. I find it difficult how can anyone still get fooled to get into these contracts. I read that cars depreciation 10% when driven off the lot, RV's depreciation 30%, but timeshare contracts the moment after signing depreciate 100%.. You cannot even give them away or in many cases cancel, per these articles. An acquaintance of mine had a timeshare salesmen as peresonal friend, and the salesman told my work buddy that he felt like timeshare salespeople have no souls, but the money is good if you can live with what you are doing to people. This is what I heard and read about these things. Personally, I cannot imagine what niche of population for whom these contracts would be of an advantage, except for salespeople, and these organizations.
I would never buy a timeshare! It's such a scam. I know someone that has one and I couldn't believe that every time they go back to that place, they have to attend another meeting to try and scam them to upgrade! Unbelievable.
Ohhh now that's something I've never heard of; didn't realize even though you bought a timeshare you need to continue attending meetings. I was thinking it was a one and done situation, but that's terrible.
I have an every other year timeshare never been forced to upgrade 😊
that's good. I don't think these ppl were 'forced' but rather strongly encouraged to upgrade. Another strong-arm sales tactic. @@jonathangatto
@@jonathangatto Oh? I'm just curious why did you buy a timeshare?
Thought it was a good idea to get a nice place for 9k and get to use it every year with RCI. I was nice back in 2011 when there was not AirBNB etc. But now I do not feel it is worth it anymore. I just might rent it out to make the maintenance fees back. I tried to give it back lets see if they take it back
@@CalbyNg
Biggest scam on the planet! It’s like Hotel California, you check in but you can never leave!😮
Love this reference 😂😂😂
Bingo !
Isnt it a bigger scam for you to take there money and be disrespectful to the people just trying to do there job then leave? While that person makes no money because it based on commission. So whats the big scam? Who leaves with money?
@@freek1318 That is why I don't go to Time Share presentations. Saleman looks at potential buyers as Suckers. Lowly educated salesman is there to make quick & easy money.
😂😂😂Exactly….had a presentation yesterday. It was 4 hours!!! I left with my wife
Promo to stay at the Hilton Grand Vacations Club for 3 nights for a total of $129!!… and all I have to do, is sit in this 2HR+ presentation?? Aight bet!! I’ll come fully prepared and equipped with my weed edibles/water/snacks/popcorn on deck to enjoy the show 😎
I got the same deal AND get the $129 back. I went to one back in 2022. I kept telling them NOOOOO but they finally gave up 😂😂😂
how did you get the 129 back? 😂@@shawtyblackatl
@@ReallyDru it was the deal they sent 2 weeks ago so i bought it. They sent another one thats $99 but i like FREEEEE better
I think that "celebrity" was one of the Nsync or Backstreet guys
It was Joey Fatone from Nsync
I'm owner of HGV and i LOVE my ownership BUT i travel a LOT!!!!!! If you don't go on a vacation almost 100 days a year it's a matter of fact that timeshares will not work for you.
Another exit strategy for getting smoothly through the presentation and getting your "reward" for wasted time is to say quickly YES but ask for the contract so you can get advice from your lawyer. And yes, there will be 2-4 persons trying to convince you, but your argument will and should always be: I am not getting into a deal without getting proper consultations with my lawyer, let alone trust you just on your word and wire the money. They realised that I was stubborn as hell, and there was 0% chance of getting me signed anything. The last person was a bit more aggressive, but I raised my tone to the point which the f*ck are you to tell me what I can and what I can't do. He saw that the conversation escalated and everyone could hear it, and just wanted to get rid of me. Singed the paper and went to the reception to pick up the "rewards". Overall, say YES and ask for the contract. It might be easier for you to get out without listening to all their bullshits.
Haha I love that y'all made that experience into a positive one. Personally, I just hate having to deal with stuff like that so I'll use my points instead for my bookings, but for balling on a budget, attending these meetings (and NOT buying anything) could be a decent strategy! Nice video Calby 👊🏼
My husband and I bought a time share over 20 years ago. It was of benefit to us for the first 18 years. Every year it went further downhill, until the last 2 years, where we didn't go but paid the maintenance fee. to finish out our contract. Overall, the purchase and the maintenance fees were cheaper than what it would have cost us for a full vacation over the years because the cost of everything in resort areas went up. We are actively in concert with around 80 people going through the attorney general trying to get back some of the money we paid over the last 2 years due to the current owners not honoring the contracts. We are lucky, though, we only had a contract for 20 years. For those that did those lifetime contracts, yikes.
I got into a timeshare presentation for Hilton this past weekend in Orlando and it was very annoying because they told me it would be 2 hrs but it ended up being more than 4 (and I missed the first few hrs of EDC... 😒), they put a hispanic guy specifically to talk to me because my name sounds definitely hispanic, I showed myself very enthusiastic all the time and everything went to the teeth, just exactly as you're describing, step by step: the personal story (the guy told me that his mom had cancer and all the money he earned in this job was sent to her), the "bonding", the supposed benefits, etc., but he started the presentation saying something like: "what if I told you, paying 150 dollars a month during 10 years you will be able to stay in any hilton hotel for the rest of your life?" I knew it was too good to be truth, then he tried to gaslight me telling me that I would be spending less money with the points than what I'm currently spending with my yearly travels, but what really killed it, obviously, were the maintenance fees, that's like the main curse in the tineshare, I would be paying 1500 for the rest of my life, and I asked him exactly this and his answer was "yes, until you sell it to someone else", I think he knew he f*cked up! 😅 He couldn't find a way to disguise the answer because at first he was trying to sell the fees as a good thing "we can keep the hotels in pristine condition for other owners, we're like a family looking for each other, it's just like when you have a car, you own it but you can give it maintenence once a year so it works properly", I told him I had to think about it and during that time I googled as fast as I could everything related to timeshares, then I saw that the packages (Hilton Grand Vacations) were rated with 1 to 1.5 stars everywhere and everyone talked ill about it, everyone saying "DO NOT BUY IT" and Facebook groups against it, I knew I had to say no and I got the determination to do it, when the guy came back i didn't hesitate, then they sent another lady to try to convince me to buy another package, she tried to "appeal" to me speaking in Spanish (because she supposedly had a mexican husband) but her Spanish was so poor and so broken I couldn't understand a thing of what she said, and I was kinda spacing out thinking of how evil timeshares were and how they were ruining thousands of people's lives, how much of a scam they were and I simply ended up telling her "I think I'll pass on this one" and she asked me why but I just told her again: "yea, I'll pass... 😅", she ended up very angry and frustrated and told me: "ok, go to the front desk to pick your prize for attending the presentation".
I know I dodged a huge bullet here and have been mulling this over the weekend, then after some research I found that these things are inherited as well and these companies are trying to destroy in court anyone trying to get people out of their timeshares, this is probably the biggest kind of scam backed up by the law that I have ever seen in my life, I wish I could tell everyone thinking about signing how terrible this is.
I've done four meetings so far to get four fun cheaper vacations
Orlando, Los Cabos, Lake Tahoe, Big island of Hawaii, and New Orleans coming up later
Might as well take advantage 👍
I once considered buying a re-sale timeshare in New Orleans. The annual fee was $500...for one week, and the whole complex was closed for repairs at the time due to hurricane damage. Talk about a bad deal....you couldn't give that thing away.
I went to a presentation once not knowing that it was for timeshare sales. Later when I realized, I did a quick research on google on what to expect and how to act. I just couldnt hold my laugh because everything you said in this video is 100% spot on. Lol there were 2 different "higher up" people who came to talk to me as I kept saying no and I just burst out in laughter as they keep lowering the prices. Lol the agent even said "why are you laughing?" 😂 Overall, it was a good learning experience, but I wouldnt do it again. Thank god I already knew about not signing up for a Timeshare. And yes, their faces were priceless.
if you already know what to do, than why not take advantage. usually they give great discounts
"Why are you laughing?"
Because you're full of it. 😂😂😂
I just tell them my attorney needs to review the deal before I sign anything.
Sounds great
I was stuck in a timeshare presentation for three hours, just to get two Disney tickets for free! They initially asked for 25K then lowered the price to 2K at the end but I declined because I've started to inquire about the yearly membership fee...😆
Heyyyy Disney tickets are expensive nowadays, haha. Good on you for not falling for the trap!
Love it! Just finished a 3 hour timeshare presentation at Pueblo Bonito...my wife and I played good cop bad cop. We ended up getting $400 in benefits by way of a party boat and dinner cruise. It was fun but yeah...you have to be on your guard!
It’s not a scam if you use your ownership and actually stay in nice resorts that would normally charge several hundred dollars per night. Do that twice per year for 20 years and you certainly benefited. If you don’t use it then it’s a waste of money.
Isn't that Joey Fatone from NYSNC???🤣 I've walked out on a few. Those scammers were sure pissed! 🏃🏃🏃🏃😎
Yup that was him!
Never been and based on this I can still say there is absolutely no way I would buy anything
Nice Video! I have one upcoming in January for Hilton in Vegas as well. I wanted to compare since I just did an IHG timesharebpresentation last month and it appears similar to Hilton in all the lame ways....
Thanks! Oooo nice, I actually enjoyed the Vegas area more than I first thought, but have fun at the timeshare, haha. Oh I didn't even think about IHG offering a timeshare; I just know of Marriott's and Hyatt's. I'll have to check out IHG, thanks for that!
I have a video coming out next week on the IHG presentation. But basically, IHG’s offer is targeted, so you may not know. But 70k IHG pts is nice. @@CalbyNg
@@jw0ng23 We are doing an IHG presentation in Gatlinburg, TN in six days; at Westgate Resort. Anything to offer up for me?
@@regalnut86 If you don't have any intent to buy one, u should be fine. Their prices are much higher than other hotel brands (Choice); or just tell me u stay in hotels for free because u use pts; u will be out in a minutes.
One time I attended to this timesheet meeting presentation and lady told me that Disneyland in Orlando cost $10K but with timeshare it will only be annual fee. I was like 10K? Then I took my phone and I showed her AirBNB lol.
😂😂😂 and there are some really cool looking Airbnb out there
The problem with Time Shares, even HGVC of which I have been a member since 2009 - is Maintenance Fees. For desirable locations, Maintenance Fees may be almost $2K for your “active” year - which, while not being equal to the amount you would pay for something like the Hilton Hawaiian Village for a week, it is approaching maybe 35-40% of that amount. So when you add on what you already paid for the Time Share, and take into account the fact that Maintenance Fees NEVER go away - that is why they make no sense for most people. Yes, you can sometimes get good deals if you book within a certain timeframe (like $1,200 for a week in Hawaii if you can go within 30 days). But a lot of people can’t take advantage of that.
Wait hold on, if I’m understanding you correctly; you have to pay to stay somewhere on top of the yearly fees?! That’s insane! And you don’t have access to every property? That’s not how the salespeople made it sound; that really sucks.
@@CalbyNg No - what I'm saying is - say you pay $30K for your timeshare. You then have to pay, say $2K in Maintenance Fees each year that you stay. So if you have an every other year deal like we do - for the years that you stay, you pay maintenance fees. For your "off years" - you pay dues. In 2022 ("on year") we paid $1,665. In 2023 ("off year") we paid $199. For this year we will pay $1,890.79 (notice that huge increase, btw). Paying cash for our room would be something like $550/night, so that is $3,850, plus maybe another $500 for misc. resort BS. Let's call it $4,500. So you could say that you are paying $1,890 for something that would cost you $4,500 if you weren't part of HGVC. However - you already paid $30K to buy it in the first place. Those are the numbers you need to understand. It will ultimately pay for itself, but it will take many years.
Great review Calby! Sounds like I should not even bother with these meetings, but thanks for the DL on them. Always wondered what they were like!
I have a timeshare presentation in a couple days (purely for the points) but I also work for naval aviation so I get to stay at all these resorts for free, plus I make per diem off of it lol can’t wait to see them struggle on explaining how their deal is better than what I got.
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My celebrity was Usher - Lol. i said no, and they keep sending me more extravagant offers and im like are you SURE you want to let me go to mexico for a week so i can tell you NO again???
Ohhh mann, I think you had a better celebrity imo. Crazy these celebrities even agree to be a part of the timeshare scheme. Ha! Nice, squeeze them!!
We did one, stayed at a nice hotel resort for 3 days and spent half of those 3 days in a timeshare meeting. It took hours but after it was done we were free.
First… 👀
Sounds like they use the boiler room approach. Now I understand why people fall for these timeshares. Good to know!
that 'celebrity' was Joey Fatone from NSYNC, you're definitely went to hs in the 2010s lol
That's right on the money! haha
Any spot where lots of salespeople are present is a huge red flag. Run away!
For sure! It was an insane amount it was like a salespeople convention, haha
I went to Myrtle Beach for a Hilton timeshare presentation. First, they offered points when I was making a phone booking to be sold the package, then they gave me a 4 day stay for $220 after tax, with a $200 certificate (lots of restrictions, you're locked into one brand, any value above one night's rate doesn't carry over, etc).
Overall not bad, and it gave me an excuse to use my Aspire resort credit. And the $200 Embassy credit will pair nicely with the July-December resort credit.
I didn't even need to lie, I just told the guy that I don't pay cash for hotel stays and that I wouldn't make a decision the same day for a major purchase, and he admitted that it wouldn't be a good fit for me.
I find it kinda sad that just because Joey from NSync has gained some weight they call him Joey Fat One
Damn how long were you there...sounds like more then a 90 min presentations...
I just go, set my timer for 90 mins and when done, say, OK where's my free gift...😂
they held me and my wife for 2 hours on one of those. the free gift was a dinner on a fancy restaurant, except they "forgot" to register our ticket for the free dinner when he didn't wanted to buy it(we didn't have the money lol)
you will OWN nothing...haha man these are a great deal to get discounted stays during busy weekends. Worth the time and I used it as an entertainment opportunity
Hahaha for sure; I feel like most people know timeshares are a scam but keep falling for them. At the very least, like you said, they are great to take advantage of 😼
I asked if I decided I didn’t wantit could get rid of it. He said we might buy it back or you could just Quit the deal paying. Then he told me It’s not linear would garnish your wages. You would just get a few letters in the mail. I was talking about owning not financing. So all I was thinking of Was the HOA FEES. They got close to getting me. But I don’t buy anything that a salesman says without a cooling off period.
I love the hidden benefits you get from attending these.
This year I’ve gotten a $129 4 night hotel, a taxes/port fee only cruise for 2, 50,000 Marriott points, and just overall lovely
You can short the whole sales process by simply, and in a loud voice so other suckers, oops I mean potential customers, can hear you.
Just say. "I am very interested but will only consider signing if you amend the contract to include a clause that allows me to cancel any time without cost or any other further payments owing".
This will sent the sales people into a spin because nobody in the room has the authority to agree to variations in the contract. Guaranteed you will immediately be marched to the exit to collect your attendance prize.
Whoa! I'll have to try that next time!! I'll be doing another prbly in Orlando haha
I’m gonna have to go to a meeting soon cause I got a discounted vacation . Spent $200 for 5 nights which would of costed $800 . They can afford to do this since if they get you to buy a time share you’ll be spendings thousands over time .
I love my hilton timeshare! And i am comfused why you asmitted to lying to them but saying all timeshares are a scam. I think thats an unfair blanket statement.
I did the math on a timeshare in the Bahamas. First of all you don’t always get the dates you want. In fact for the first few years you won’t get the dates you want. The time share you are shown is always in a great location. The one you get will be in a less desirable spot. The upfront fees and the weekly fees are enormous. I compared it to a week of my choice and the cost per week and found it to be much cheaper than buying a timeshare. Putting the money in the bank earning interest worked out much better. Only other thing. People who get a timeshare are told they can get reservations for the restaurants. We sat next to a couple with a time share who told us they had to book almost two weeks in advance. When I told them I booked an hour ago she was angry. It appears the owners give preference to hotel guests. Admittedly I have only looked at a few times shares but in all cases I have not found them to be anywhere a good value.
Listen everyone......literally read the fine print in whatever you sign up for...get in writing...stay alotted time... and grab your goodies and leave! 😂 done it several of times..may take 90 min-3 hrs of your time.. its just what you think is what your time is worth
That famous dude is a member of N'Sync
What's worse...timeshare salespeople or those guys that try to sell you a Kirby vacuum door to door?
"not as bad as you think" proceeds to describe how they are exactly as bad as i think
Ha, looking at the commentors I can tell you're in the credit card game.
We sold ourselves on a Hilton Timeshare 2 years ago and regret it. We were already thinking about buying, and jumped into resale before our presentation package. $100 for a timeshare sounded good on the surface, until you realize you're not saving enough money, and you're exposed to Florida insurance and infrastructure legislation. We ended up trading it back for a $2,200 contract in Las Vegas, which is costing us $650 per year less. Fees in Florida are going up 9.5% next year, in Las Vegas, 3.75%. In a nutshell, we're going to be staying in Waikiki every other year, at half the price of the hotels, let alone beach resorts.
100% correct on never buying a timeshare direct and only ever using the secondary online market for free. They have no value and literally offer no savings on vacations. I promise.
Our company only exists because of these owners who realize their mistakes and wants out. It's even difficult for owners looking for help to get out because many companys even scam you on the way out. The only reason we are successful is because we dont charge anything until after you're out and with no high marks ups or waiting periods. Even then, it's hard to hear through the noise because of all these other fly by night businesses and corporations.
Oh man, I have heard of the scam of people trying to get out of timeshares and paying for the fees upfront; I think John Oliver covered it, pretty crazy.
Just curious what does your company do? Is it like a legal law firm way out? Or do you all just call the timeshare and annoy them, haha. And, if you're willing to, share the name of your business in case others want to reach out.
@@CalbyNg completely legal. It just depends on your situation.
If the timeshare is paid off, meaning no mortgage, and it just has the annual maintenance fees, then we transfer it. We have several companies we partner with who will accept the transfer of ownership as long as we pay all the associated costs.
If the timeshare does have an active mortgage, a loan on it, then we need to cancel out the ownership contract+mortgage. This is where you need a lawyer. We use of one of the two firms we partner with and the fact that your consumer rights have been violated at the time of sale (which they always are) to get the contract cancelled out.
We do this work with no money upfront, so no payment until the client is satisfied, and we guarantee our work for life.
@@CalbyNg if you want to check us out more, just google "Clarity Transfers"
The reality is not all companies have the same morals . And it’s pretty hypocritical to think setting your family up while on vacation to go see a “timeshare presentation” for 90-120 minutes because of a “Good deal” is a great idea. If you’re not a fan of the way the timeshares work then why continue to ride the coat tails of their marketing packages. Just save money and pay for a vacation on your own and guess what, no presentations lol you don’t have to do all this planning to say no . Nothing admirable about it.
The problem is I'm the kind of guy who can't say "No". I wish I watched this vid earlier or did a little more research but they blocked the internet so I couldn't check. Long story short. AVOID TIMESHARES!!! I won't go into anymore presentations cuz again I just can't say "no". >:(
If you don't travel why do you bother on going to one of those? I assume just like a car insurance, it only works if you drive(?)
Going to a timeshare or going to a timeshare meeting? I went to a timeshare meeting because they gave me reduced rates for the hotel, along with Hilton points for a vacation I was already going to take.
Ask how long for free gifts? Then pull out timer, set it, and say "go"
I work for Hilton when it comes to time share, I’m gonna be honest it’s not for everyone is for the people that care where they stay they travel and have the money for it and again there’s no way that you can have a complain because you sign up to it we do not make you come or manipulate you to come it’s your own decision to come to the presentation and if for you coming for 2 hours just to say no and also get gifts is a hassle go camping 😂😂
my Holiday Inn fees was 550 for a week of time shares back in 2012 which was pretty good value, but they double every other year and now they are 1600 for that week in 2024 which i can book for much cheaper on any website
Thanks for posting this video! i just got a 4 night stay at a grand vacation hotel and was wondering how the time shares work.
3:35 What website is that?
God bless everyone.
Time Share Nation; just remember there are still maintenance fees every year. Which can be expensive.
@@CalbyNg Thanks, probably won't buy just wanted to see.
God bless you.
It’s meant for people with money and who know how to leverage it … pretty much you need to have money + resources ( people ) ..
I went to one a few years ago. I got thrown out after about an hour. They finally realized I wasn't going to buy. I told them I was there for the free room. I was there for the SEMA show. I didn't even get a gift. Lol
Make them stick to the time limit they set for you, I said that I had to pick up my kids as they were with a babysitter that had to be relived. I was out right with them I only came for the gift card and I was not buying anything. I got my $200 gift card and ate and drank all I could.
I went to one in Pigeon Forde, TN recently. This video is very accurate as to what happened.
Oof, they also have those "free" ticket booths down there
Id say show me your passport for all these World travels you have done. I also am only looking for a place in North Korea period. No family story needed weirdo.
sitting through the sales presentation is a form of torture. some people think it's worth it for the prizes they promise- if they get the prizes
This sounds perfect for people that have a speaking disability. Just be mute; say nothing when they speak to you.
We did three of them with Marriott, and they removed us from their list! No more invites.
Love the passion of the salesman that “lost” a good friend that never got to travel. Their pitches are always similar. If you’re looking, buy one 2nd online. People are giving them away
Rest assured you're not saving money for sitting through a timeshare presentation. You're voluntarily accepting discount compensation for emotional abuse.
I wish I could have gone with you guys at the Vegas meet. I'm an expert in this field and specialize in the fundamental financial aspects of the timeshare game. They're selling an inferior product based on psychological manipulation. Pointing out how they dilute their value by giving away all these dirt-cheap rooms was wise. The point-and-mile programs we all love, devalue their product as well. Looking at current resale listings gives you an idea of what your exit strategy will be like 7-8 years later when 50% of timeshare owners want out. The bottom line is there is very little demand for their product, but they spend millions on shady sales techniques to trick people into buying.
Haha unemployment is a deal breaker
Timeshare presentations are 💩💩💩 The tactics they use are something else. They gotta know that 99% of peeps aren't interested. Thanks for the info + video!
but they still convert some believe it or not..
I wonder what happens if you just stare at them and don’t answer any of their questions lol just stone faced and let them talk
Ha! Honestly they might start insulting you very personally, they can be very mean. Otherwise, if you're okay with that they might just sit there with you. I believe one of my friends, who went to a different timeshare than me, said their salesperson gave up but had to keep them there a certain amount of time due to the rules.
What if you start crying though?
@@TasteLikeSushi ha!
My sister in was a rookie to this scam and she almost bought it. I said no for them. Saying no. She was upset at me at first but once we were bussed off. She was thankful to me. 😂😂😂
A vacation home??
Am I the only 1 in peril??
Very well stated and spot on! 🎯
Thanks!
Didn't understand your 1st speaker.
Sounds like timeshare companies have their employees train with car dealership salesman. Same type of hierarchy switching you to different salesman “managers” if you say no to their pitch. Colossal waste of time.
Ha! Right! Like why even switch out? No is no.
stupid...cant believe they still do this
my wife and i go to these whenever we get a chance ......love winding them up......
Is it only for couples? Or can you travel 4 ( family group)? It did not say in the accomodations section.
You should be able to travel as a group; however, it’s only required for the person booking the room and your spouse if you’re legally married; if not they aren’t required to go if they don’t want to.
How about you just don’t go to those presentations. Why free load on to other peoples efforts.
They emailed me an invitation and I took them up on their offer
Wife and i do them in vega. It's funny. They try and sell you a timeshare for 60k up front. Then at the very end when they are about to give up on you they will throw out the 3k offer for the same 60k deal. Lol. We still no thank you and then they get really rude and mean. Wife and I enjoy the show tickets and a free lunch. Get a break from walking around and the vegas heat for a couple of hours.
they did that to me, said that it was a 'Foreclosed/walk away" deal so i didn't have to pay full price.... i still declined
Wow you didn’t know who Joey Fatone was. Never heard of the largest boy band of the 90s/2000s or who Justin Timberlake. 😂😂😂
Ha! I was a baby during that time 🥺 I
Know Justin Timberlake though, haha
Why would anyone waste their time going through this? Is your vacation time really worth it?
For me, yes; because it wasn’t that long and I paid $250 for the 3 day stay (where as other hotels during that time I would have paid $600 for a 3 day stay), but I also got $500 worth of value (Hilton Points) I used to book a property near Vail, CO. So in my opinion I don’t mind it; of course everyone is different, my buddy Luke Points and Miles would rather not, haha.
Not good and turned in to worst
It is not suitable for you because you are an employee. Anyone who is not an employee can work from all over the world. while on vacation
Yep, that’s what I told the salesperson. Wouldn’t let me go though
Imagine having a Time Share Wife with 25 other Husbands.
How fun does that sound? How quick would you sign up for that?
😂And most guys never get their week after all those Mortgage Payments and Maintenance Fees.
Do you think she’ll retain her initial “value?” 😂
And YOU SIGN UP FOR LIFE!!!😮
Ha! That's actually a great summary of timeshares
Lol umm hes famous thats joey from *NSYNC…
Good video except the audio with your partner is completely unintelligible.
TOP TIP:
Next time when dealing with the time share pushers - just stand up and yell out "THIS PLACE will be PERFECT as my HIDE OUT! Who here will join me as my GOON ARMY?!? MUUAHH AHH HAAA!"
They will let you go immediately.
source: my experience
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I would love to go to one of these and just act absolutely insane. Randomly screaming and laughing, asking questions that make no sense (THE MEAT!!! WHERE'S THE MEAT!?!?!?), standing up doing random (but choreographed) dances with my boyfriend, loudly clapping in their faces when they talk, etc.
@@Hello-tj2cp Mmmmm... Let's not do foolish things that reduces our dignity. Let us make a strong stand for justice.... then .... we dip!
Seems like a good way to travel in the US! :D
Cheap hotel stay and free points, for sure! Just need to have a strong will
I love timeshare salespitch deals. Depends on the salesperson you get once I got a salesperson that was originally from India 5 minutes and he knew I wasn't going to buy anything so we spent half an hour talking about the best places in India to vacation, I still have notes from that chat.
Also sometimes MVC has online salespitch deals, attend an online salespitch and get 50k Bonvoy points, super easy.
Oh wow that guy seems cool; just curious, did they have to keep you there a certain amount of time, instead of letting you go?
I’ve seen those MVC deals! Glad you were able to take advantage of them! I signed up for one but they never got back up with me unfortunately 🥲
@@CalbyNg yes it seems like the 30 minutes minimum amount of time that he could tell his boss, I am not going to buy. With MVC I have always called the 800 number to signup.
Ah, those are good to know 👍 For the MVC I tried signing up using the online form; I guess that doesn’t work
"most workplaces only give you two weeks vacation" - jawdrop moment for me. In my country legal minimum is 4, 5 is standard and nicer jobs ofer 6 as a benefit. It is a small wonder there isn't more suicides in US
Ditto. In Australia its 4 weeks annual leave plus 10 public holidays plus typically long service leave after 10 years ( a once only extra 3 months off).
I get 5 weeks in the us
I get 4.5 weeks in the US.
Ugh how exhausting.
Oh for sure
Always a scam