Man’s been doing it since before they announced the screwdriver. I saw it when going through old videos. Screwdrivers are the only thing I haven’t seen him drop.
Riot Games actually does this for their local game servers they bring to LAN tournaments! They have a plane-safe, custom case for their custom LoL servers complete with a comprehensive booklet on how to get it set up on any network. It saved my bacon quite a bit back then.
Other than the $500 motherboard everything else will be affordable. And you can get itx or other matx boards for much cheaper if you're willing to go without high end features like on board dual 10gig ethernet
They are a little excessive. It was fun to watch, but in reality you could build one with a smaller footprint with larger capacity and throughput for less then the cost of one of those drives. It just wouldn't make as good of a video.
@@joee7452 Oh yeah, because 30 2tb nvme drives is going to save so much more space than 2 30tb drives. 30 980 pros only cost 7000, but you have to wire and store 30 980 pros. Good luck doing that. Good luck cooling your epyc processor with a l9a. Because you also aren't getting the lanes to power all 30 drives with any consumer cpu.
@@username8644 Homie read the comment i responded to before responding to mine. Homie thinks you can fit 30 2tb drives on a board with a 5700x. You literally can't do that. It will never work on a consumer board. So good luck thinking 30 drives would've been better than 2 in this case. Good luck.
Great Choice once again by the LMG team using TrueNAS SCALE as the reliable storage solution for their CES build! We can't wait to see the content from CES! Happy New Year to everyone at LMG!
As a video editor, rushing projects on the go for different youtube channels (not as big as this channel, but in the 1 to 5 hundred thousand range), id just love to work on those conditions. Thank you for making all of the editors jobs less painful. You can really tell these things add to the quality of the production. Its super common to have producers really shave off the post production department. Hats off to you all and hopefully some day you open remote job spots for people outside of canada, i would really love to work for LMG. Hugs all the way from Argentina!
Genuine question: how would an ingest server help a work flow with multiple editors? I know I’m missing something. In my mind there would only be one editor working on a single video. Why not ingest the footage directly to the respective laptop?
@@Werdna12345 There are multiple reasons, here are a few that I can think of: 1. Not hogging the networking and/or PC in the editors' den when something has to be ingested. Usually the latency with ingesting that much data create long response (ping) times for those editing and basically makes you unable to edit. This has to do with storage, CPU, RAM, and networking bandwidth that contributes to this. 2. It just makes it easy. There's one place for you to go in the building/office to ingest footage. You just create a new folder for the video, and put the footage in a folder labeled 'RAW' or whatever directory scheme your company, boss, or you want to use. 3. Really only one person can work on a project at once as Adobe will give you a warning saying that the project is open somewhere else. but in case, someone's laptop crashes, gets Linus dropped, someone's chicken grease or favorite smoothie gets spilled all over it, etc. you still have the footage. MacBooks are NOT redundant and on the off chance something happens, everything is replicated (not backed up) on the server. Also, in the situation where someone was out sick or out on vacation (I think you're specifically talking about when they go to CES in LA, but all of this pretty much applies to the office as well) they could still have access to the project and not have to wait for so and so to get back so they can finish and release the video *in a timely manner*. That's the gist of it at least. Hope that helps!
@@Werdna12345 because they are going to need all that storage space to hold the raw footage before editing. assuming they are only rocking 4k and not 8k like in house main cams are. everyone is going to shoot several hours worth footage @100gb every 40min. its a lot cheaper and quicker to build this server then upgrade every labtop with the most tb they could which still wouldn't be enough. also space is a major factor since they are traveling by air no need to lug around slow external drives. this will allow them to pump out the highest quality videos as fast as possible which in return will skyrocket views during a real time event like this. effectively making more money from this trip.
@@happinessiskey2858 @zeroa69 thanks. It didn't dawn on me that the editors will probably still be working on a video when more footage needs to be dumped. Have the server is probably handy for letting someone else look at the project file, reviewing the project, color grading, etc. There might not be 2 editors editing at the same time but there might be other people who need to look or work on it after the editing stage before export
@@Werdna12345 Of course! Linus also mentioned the possibility of having a Windows rendering PC which it would help have all the projects on one central place so you aren't having to transfer files between computers all the time which can be time consuming even over 10 gig LAN (better but it's quicker to just have it in one place where anyone can go get it when they need to). Those rendering and raw (I wouldn't transfer the raw files every time with the project, I'd just keep them on the server and link them to the project which is probably what they're doing) files take up a lot of space.
I know right, I flinched most of the way through the video at the handling of those components, sigh. There where moments where I said out loud, "be careful there", LOL!.
@@errorerror6918 that's very fair, although they'd be going through airport security as a business company, specifically flim/news company, maybe that would make a difference into what TSA considers to be dangerous or not? I don't know, but last time TSA stopped me for having some sour gummy worms in my bag, so take that for what it's worth 😂
Try to explain that. Case of JUST electronics to airport security... Best case scenario they think its a bomb... Worst case they think its some sort of hacking tool to hijack the plane.
@Blake Belladonna The answer is in your latter question and not the former. You carry on what you can't afford to have a luggage handler "misplace". It's not about the $50 luggage fee, it's about security.
@@an1m3n00b When was your last flght? Theese times it has a 20-50% chance that your checked in luggage will arrive later or never and gets lost. So everything important you have always by your hands/eyes.
Maybe they didn't want to have to lug around the pelican case if they want the server somewhere other than the hotel. Although the pelican case is easier to carry and has more protection. .
They are flying their entire editing staff to CES. "Someplace other than the hotel room ". What, they going to take it and run a Lan party at CES, and not stand over their editing staff on the clock with a whip?. Oh yeah, that's what Linus has Yvonne for.
I thought you were going to transform the suitcase in a computer to save space. Maybe next time but I'm not sure if it will pass the security at the airport though... 😅
It will, but i feel like the hassle is too much for them. Especially when you remember some TSA can be pain in the ass. All this people who said to mod it directly into the case truly never get to experience how relentless TSA can be when they suspect you.
@@omg_gta I've taken a bunch of pc parts over the border in my checked bag before. They were a bit confused but honestly didn't care once they realized I was a tech nerd xD
@@omg_gta the seperation thing is because of the battery. Supposedly they have the same density as some explosives, i literally travelled with a 19" network switch in my carry-on once and nobody cared.
Although the case wouldn't have been watertight and the back plate would be exposed. Would've been cool if they were re-routed so you run it with the lid open though...
I always find these server videos fascinating. I can almost always pinpoint the exact moment that everything goes way over my head and I start to black out from info lol. In this case it’s (13:40) lol. Great work guys. Thanks for the content.
TrueNAS is a specialized OS for NAS (network attached storage) applications. Instead of having the computer run windows, they run this special OS so they can connect to its storage via the network.
@@Adlata … Winnie the troll? He said why he needs that particular pelican case (carryon not checked baggage), which limited his case choice, which limited everything else. This wasn’t careless, it was jank by design and not out of carelessness.
Imagine they go through all this effort and the flying company loses their baggage. edit: yeah I get it's a carry-on, but your brain is so large that it suffocated itself in your small head and you missed the keyword IMAGINE
Airport security might not like the idea. Or rather, while explaining that inside the case there is a computer would be true for either scenario; explaining that "this is what the inside of a computer looks like" is far more time consuming than presenting a black box as "a computer".
@@ivanmalinovski7807 Are you planning to pay for the replacement ssd? I already have the hard drive, and as they pointed out in the video, used optane drives are cheap. Just to replace a 2tb drive with an ssd is at least $150, several times more. If you were looking at a new setup its even more drastic if you are weighing hd vs ssd. 4tb for well under $100 or like $350 for ssd. That is a good chunk of change. My main ssd is 1tb, so some of my games i want to be snappier will be on it. Games I play less often on the hard drive.
Hey there @LinusTechTips team, professional DIT here. Your slower offloads on Windows are likely due to the single threaded operation of Explorer (including on Windows 11) and anything using its backend, while it’s most noticeable on underworked machines, switching to either a Robocopy based offload software, or going right to the command line Robocopy command itself and using the multi thread argument will allow you to get far closure to parity of a Mac machine, especially when using base clock limited CPUs.
@@boostio2720 trust me airport security wont care about whats in your pelican case unless its a Gun, drugs, or Cash well also bombs but a computer like this looks like a cheap office PC where the pelican case is worth more than the computer, also i bet they chose to make it a carryon size simply to prevent theft
To anyone that says that He should have build it on the pelican case. Yes, it's a pretty fun idea, and it could be more beneficial considering it will give more room, which means there will be better airflow for the stuff inside. However, airport security can be kind of problem if you do so. Security can stop them because it's unusual to see a modified pelican case with lots of electronics inside. I'd love to see that pelican case as the server itself, but I see why they decided the other route.
True, custom pelican cases for portable computers and electronics are usually made by the pelican case manufacturer. Not DIY solutions. Unless they really limited their space and used the foam of a pelican case without damaging/exposing the exterior; I don't think it would be timely and efficient solution unless they really planned far ahead for this trip.
@@manuelsputnik True. Not to mention cooling in that thing. You wouldn't want to really drill holes that would make a potential entrance point - especially while traveling. Still a neat idea though. Weird how every comment of the 20 or so that I've read seem to all say the same thing though....
Well... I could get my 5950X run at 4.0 Ghz all-core and draw just below 90W in Cinebench (while at 4.3 Ghz is was sucking 160W, which means less than 10% performance uplift for close to twice the power consumption!), which makes it run cooler than my stock 3600X (although that one was sucking even 10W less power). The NH-L9a might actually be able to handle that after that manual tweaking. And going even a bit lower, like 3.8 Ghz, might increase the headroom for the cooler.
@@xenajin6827 Correct. The "production" solution for high core count chips in a confined build like this would be either be ECO mode on the 5950X/5900X/5**0X (still pushing it) and/or acquiring the 65W R9 5900 non-X, the later of which powers my home server at 45W ECO mode with the board used in this video. I did have to strip it out of an OEM system, however.
@@xenajin6827 there’s a negligible performance loss between 4.3 GHz and 3.8 GHz lol, and it’s absolutely worth the reduced power usage especially for this kind of situation
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 i think its more about stability where they don't want any possible setbacks for stuff like storage where running things mostly stock is the best option
I'm glad Linus touched on his hesitation to take that much storage across the border. I would like to see even a short or a float plane exclusive behind the scenes as to why that's possibly a bad idea because some people don't understand why that might be.
I'd have that portable server backed up to home-base before flying home. 24/7 background sync should do the trick over the course of the week, but not on that 5G hotspot.
@@MrTsolar makes sens, but they're using it as a local server to upload videos they take at the convention. Maybe they take some files from home, but main use will be to upload there
As a dude who travels and edits for long stretches abroad, this was very insightful. I don't need the bandwidth for a team, but I loved the approach to tackling the workstation build. Didn't even know they had dope mATX server motherboards like that and never occurred to me to even ask. Good call on the Pelican and dimensions too. I feel like this is actually a viable market product. A tailor-made chassis for carry-on standards with its own protective case and potent-enough components is legitimately something I would strongly consider buying.
Would definitely love to see a video where the pelican case would be modified to both carry the server/pc parts and itself become the case by using modified brackets etc.
Absolutely love to see the 10gig networking equipment. I really wish I could find one of those CalDigit 10g networking adapters for a laptop. Crazy how you have 4 of them! I'm in the process of building a 10gig NAS in a small form factor case, all because of your videos!!! Keep up the good work 😁
Based on the comments, and the fact I was asking the same question while watching... I think maybe it's time to build a portable server, and as some have also said, that pelican box, or maybe something similar, could be made into a pretty awesome portable server box. Imagine that box, but with a little door you could open up to access all the power/IO, maybe even one of those small 4 port toolless hotswap bays poking out the side so you can quickly slap in more storage, there's so many options since that box is actually kind of large, just wheel it in, park it next to a rack or power point and plug and play.
@@katrinabryce Well...yeah lol, if you didn't need all that stuff, a large number of things would do the job just fine, hence the term "portable server".
Can't wait to see what the editing den looks like at CES. Do you get a separate room and ask for no beds and extra desks? Similar to how some vendors use rooms?
@@EoRdE6 a lot of their switches will support 2.5 gig too so going from building to building you might get lucky and their uplink is probably bonded 10 gigs so way better than spinning rust for sure, but then on the other hand those kioxia drives are pretty badass
About a decade ago, I used to travel with a Pelican 1430 top loader carry-on (that could slide underseat even) as an AIO VR-capable devkit/workstation. The Pelican's polypropylene case can handle direct mounting of electronics - in my case, I used a combination of friction fitting with a single tiny 3D printed bracket and some judicious drilling and and it survived dozens of intercontinental flights and being lugged around the world without failure. The enclosure also kept it's IP67 rating when traveling - I just left the lid open when I was running it and had power and backplate aimed up so it was a breeze to plug in anywhere and didn't need any additional ventilation. I switched to an NFC S4 eventually for weight savings, but I can highly recommend the 1430 for someone looking to build a compact & portable, easy to ventilate system in a box.
Really?? I though he would say "we are going to use a satellite connection to upload the videos" I was not expecting him to send his entire editing team 😂
PowerMan has always been InWin's inhouse brand (all the way back to the 90s) and they're just rebranded FSP power supplies, so they are certainly a reliable brand.
I’ve definitely had to pry off backplates from server boards like this. Best done by heating up using a hairdryer on low for a bit, but don’t overdo it One thing I’ll say though is that ZFS, if anything, will be /less/ susceptible and more resilient to memory errors than competing filesystems-the recommendation to use ECC with it is basically amounts to ‘look, you love your data, why screw around?’
It also helps a lot with making the system a lot more stable, more so since they will be at hotels and can't guarantee that the energy from the walls would be stable enough.
Honestly I’m surprised they didn’t make a custom solution for their own needs using the tools they have in house. I’m sure an Alex solution would be of equal entertainment
The problem with an Alex solution would have been that the amount of liquid inside the water-cooling system would have violated FAA regs and would not have been allowed onto the plane.
I had to use this case with my spare matx motherboard to build my custom router, so this was really fun to watch! I found that undervolting (CO for the 5700x) helped a lot with thermals.
I would love to see, a vlog about the editing on the Macbooks. Just curious how they stack up compared to BIG "portable" laptop you guys used to bring to the convention. The tech gang vlog with Luu, Austin, MKBHD, UaC, jay....great memories
I have a desktop machine with a 3070, 32 gbs ram and a ryzen 5. My similarly priced macbook is on par if not better than my desktop in most editing tasks. New arm based macs are beasts. They also mentioned that in the reviews of the macbooks.
It's a bit funny how on the road the LTT team will be running Linux and macOS! But you use the right tool for the job and right now, Apple's laptops definitely blow away anything else for video editing. At least the Pro models with fans...
xD I'm guessing if they had editors used to Final Cut, it would be even more impressive turn around times! Love your videos Jeff, hope all is well and happy holidays
I would have done this build when everyone is back in the office. You have all the tools like the cnc and laser cutter to make a fully custom pelli case build. Would have so much space and you could pack so much more in!
That would be a risky move - CES is first week of January (starts on Jan 5th, so they probably are going a day or two earlier), so if *anything* went wrong during the build, they could end up without gear for the trip.
5:15 I mean ECO mode is an option, one that can handle and an R9 5950X in ECO mode can handle a lot more workstation loads than a R7 5700X no matter the mode (I think the ECO mode of the 5950X targets 65W as well) and if 8 cores is enough, the 5700G maybe can be a better choice, thanks to having an iGPU just in case, but I suppose at that point is a choice between iGPU or PCIe 4.0 (as the 5700G doesn’t have support for it for some reason)
The motherboard they choose already has an "graphical card" built-in on the management controller, and it also has support for ipmi, so they don't need to have integrated graphics on the cpu itself.
I was wondering why they used a CPU that only supported PCIe 3.0 as well. Seems like the 5900 (non-x) would have been a better option if they could find one. 65w, 12-cores, PCIe 4.0.
I remember those cases. Back in the big chip shortage era, there weren't slim-design OEM PCs in stock. I had to get creative and assemble 5-6 PC for our Warehouse to be mounted under a working table in a very tight space.
I've been using that case for about a year and really like it. I swapped the front fan for the same Noctua one last week. The stock one is a bit noisy. I didn't have to dremel the fan for it to fit though... It's pretty amazing just how much fits in there. In mine, I have a Ryzen 3400G, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe (boot), 14TB HDD (storage), 1TB SSD (fast storage), Nvidia T600 GPU (NVenc) and 4K60 Pro (capture card), and a slim DVD drive too because I didn' t want the bay sitting empty. So in total, mine's only worth about $1300 for a quiet capture/streaming machine that can also do editing. Overall, I think the case could use more airflow, but the amount you can pack in there is really impressive and overall it's still on par with a lot of mini-ITX cases.
Could you just bring the laptop and and editor, load everything from the camera directly to the laptop and edit it and post it and then just dump the files from the laptop onto your server when you get back on the local network?
@@MonicaHolly143 Transferring data onto the server or laptop will require the same steps and the same time. Only reason to have a server with them there is if they have multiple editors working on the same data.
I used that case to build my dad a low spec all day media use computer and it was really fucking nice. No real tools needed and very intuitive. The original power supply was also 425 watts so maybe it was a sightly different model but it's been over 2 years and still going strong.
Sweet build, I assume you know this but there are pelican cases that are server racks. The rack is built right into the case and the front and back remove for access. Not carry on but very sick.
Happy to see the MBP get some recognition. Honestly, if Adobe would spend the time optimizing their software, I’d bet the Mac would outperform the PC laptop he referred to.
I actually built a PC with the Silverstone SG13 case and put it in a Pelican 1510 and brought it halfway across the world with me. Had a Ryzen 5 1600 and a full-size msi 1060 6GB from my old system, along with a 120mm AIO in the front, M.2, 3.5" hard drive and a full-size power supply. Worked really well and even had extra space to hold my G-pro wireless and an XBOX controller.
They work with pretty big files coming from the cameras, hence the 30tb drives. Transferring that much data with even a high speed connection is gonna take more than a couple of hours. Editors could probably already have a first cut (or even a final video) by the time it takes to upload the data to their home base.
They could have reserved an Airbnb that has gigabit fiber internet from CenturyLink. Much better than relying on cellular internet, which all networks will tank.
@@tinsucevic They're editing locally, and only uploading a few hundred gigabytes to YT/Floatplane. That's the point of this video, they're taking the editors with them. No need to send TB's of video to homebase.
I know you can, but why would you need a file server for a few CES videos (besides the fact it makes a great video) a few thunderbolt SSD's would do the job in a much smaller package imo.
Because it's a server style board, there's a very basic video chip built into the motherboard and has a VGA output. There's also an HDMI port for the Ryzen G chip output.
The install and display is (probably) happening over LAN. The laptop sends instructions/data through the LAN cable to the small desktop box, and the desktop box simply communicates back to the laptop using the same cable. It's been done for a long time now.
The fact that Linus can accurately flip his screwdriver but drop everything else is a talent in itself tbh 🤣
That was take 963 and he broke 715 of them before properly flipping. Editing is magic.
@@alaniasdruid8616 No wonder he need 100+ people to support him...
Man’s been doing it since before they announced the screwdriver. I saw it when going through old videos. Screwdrivers are the only thing I haven’t seen him drop.
The LTT Screwdriver is his puppy! That's why...
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Definitely should’ve done some custom jiggery pokery so that the peli case WAS the case of the computer!!! Would’ve allowed for so much more space!
Came here to say this
Having done the same for about 1000€ that included monitor, speakers, peripherals and cables included, i think they dropped the ball here
thought they would do that tbh
Riot Games actually does this for their local game servers they bring to LAN tournaments! They have a plane-safe, custom case for their custom LoL servers complete with a comprehensive booklet on how to get it set up on any network. It saved my bacon quite a bit back then.
Yeah I was kind of expecting him just to strap a test bench plane in there or something cool like that
honestly, besides the 30tb $7,000 hard drives, the rest seems affordable and "easy" to make
Other than the $500 motherboard everything else will be affordable. And you can get itx or other matx boards for much cheaper if you're willing to go without high end features like on board dual 10gig ethernet
They are a little excessive. It was fun to watch, but in reality you could build one with a smaller footprint with larger capacity and throughput for less then the cost of one of those drives. It just wouldn't make as good of a video.
@@joee7452 Oh yeah, because 30 2tb nvme drives is going to save so much more space than 2 30tb drives. 30 980 pros only cost 7000, but you have to wire and store 30 980 pros. Good luck doing that. Good luck cooling your epyc processor with a l9a. Because you also aren't getting the lanes to power all 30 drives with any consumer cpu.
@@username8644 Homie read the comment i responded to before responding to mine. Homie thinks you can fit 30 2tb drives on a board with a 5700x. You literally can't do that. It will never work on a consumer board. So good luck thinking 30 drives would've been better than 2 in this case. Good luck.
@@Tagiau well, not like you really need 30TB of storage, even 8TB ssd is probably an overkill anyway.
That said, if they can, why not
"Give everyone a 10GB network dongle to bring everyone up to the speed."
Yeah, literally I guess
Great Choice once again by the LMG team using TrueNAS SCALE as the reliable storage solution for their CES build!
We can't wait to see the content from CES! Happy New Year to everyone at LMG!
As a video editor, rushing projects on the go for different youtube channels (not as big as this channel, but in the 1 to 5 hundred thousand range), id just love to work on those conditions. Thank you for making all of the editors jobs less painful.
You can really tell these things add to the quality of the production. Its super common to have producers really shave off the post production department.
Hats off to you all and hopefully some day you open remote job spots for people outside of canada, i would really love to work for LMG.
Hugs all the way from Argentina!
Genuine question: how would an ingest server help a work flow with multiple editors?
I know I’m missing something.
In my mind there would only be one editor working on a single video. Why not ingest the footage directly to the respective laptop?
@@Werdna12345 There are multiple reasons, here are a few that I can think of:
1. Not hogging the networking and/or PC in the editors' den when something has to be ingested. Usually the latency with ingesting that much data create long response (ping) times for those editing and basically makes you unable to edit. This has to do with storage, CPU, RAM, and networking bandwidth that contributes to this.
2. It just makes it easy. There's one place for you to go in the building/office to ingest footage. You just create a new folder for the video, and put the footage in a folder labeled 'RAW' or whatever directory scheme your company, boss, or you want to use.
3. Really only one person can work on a project at once as Adobe will give you a warning saying that the project is open somewhere else. but in case, someone's laptop crashes, gets Linus dropped, someone's chicken grease or favorite smoothie gets spilled all over it, etc. you still have the footage. MacBooks are NOT redundant and on the off chance something happens, everything is replicated (not backed up) on the server. Also, in the situation where someone was out sick or out on vacation (I think you're specifically talking about when they go to CES in LA, but all of this pretty much applies to the office as well) they could still have access to the project and not have to wait for so and so to get back so they can finish and release the video *in a timely manner*.
That's the gist of it at least. Hope that helps!
@@Werdna12345 because they are going to need all that storage space to hold the raw footage before editing. assuming they are only rocking 4k and not 8k like in house main cams are. everyone is going to shoot several hours worth footage @100gb every 40min. its a lot cheaper and quicker to build this server then upgrade every labtop with the most tb they could which still wouldn't be enough. also space is a major factor since they are traveling by air no need to lug around slow external drives. this will allow them to pump out the highest quality videos as fast as possible which in return will skyrocket views during a real time event like this. effectively making more money from this trip.
@@happinessiskey2858 @zeroa69 thanks. It didn't dawn on me that the editors will probably still be working on a video when more footage needs to be dumped. Have the server is probably handy for letting someone else look at the project file, reviewing the project, color grading, etc. There might not be 2 editors editing at the same time but there might be other people who need to look or work on it after the editing stage before export
@@Werdna12345 Of course!
Linus also mentioned the possibility of having a Windows rendering PC which it would help have all the projects on one central place so you aren't having to transfer files between computers all the time which can be time consuming even over 10 gig LAN (better but it's quicker to just have it in one place where anyone can go get it when they need to). Those rendering and raw (I wouldn't transfer the raw files every time with the project, I'd just keep them on the server and link them to the project which is probably what they're doing) files take up a lot of space.
I actually flinched watching Linus drop that backplate onto (what seemed like) his motherboard
I know right, I flinched most of the way through the video at the handling of those components, sigh. There where moments where I said out loud, "be careful there", LOL!.
@@tinyBigGAMES alll I know is whoever made the explosion effect needs a raise LOL
You must be new here.
If you are long term viewer you wouldn't even care about him dropping things now!!
In 10 years you'll be expecting it instead of flinching at it.
Was there any reason you didn't build the PC actually in the pelican? I feel like that would be a sick engineering build/challenge.
I would not want to take the results of that through airport security
my thoughts exactly. Would give more freedom and cooling would be a cynch with the door open.
@@errorerror6918 that's very fair, although they'd be going through airport security as a business company, specifically flim/news company, maybe that would make a difference into what TSA considers to be dangerous or not? I don't know, but last time TSA stopped me for having some sour gummy worms in my bag, so take that for what it's worth 😂
Try to explain that. Case of JUST electronics to airport security... Best case scenario they think its a bomb... Worst case they think its some sort of hacking tool to hijack the plane.
I scrolled down to say this!
Should’ve just used the pelican case as the case
That's what I thought he was going to do lol
@Blake Belladonna The answer is in your latter question and not the former. You carry on what you can't afford to have a luggage handler "misplace". It's not about the $50 luggage fee, it's about security.
@@an1m3n00b When was your last flght? Theese times it has a 20-50% chance that your checked in luggage will arrive later or never and gets lost.
So everything important you have always by your hands/eyes.
Maybe they didn't want to have to lug around the pelican case if they want the server somewhere other than the hotel. Although the pelican case is easier to carry and has more protection. .
They are flying their entire editing staff to CES. "Someplace other than the hotel room ".
What, they going to take it and run a Lan party at CES, and not stand over their editing staff on the clock with a whip?. Oh yeah, that's what Linus has Yvonne for.
I thought you were going to transform the suitcase in a computer to save space. Maybe next time but I'm not sure if it will pass the security at the airport though... 😅
It will, but i feel like the hassle is too much for them. Especially when you remember some TSA can be pain in the ass. All this people who said to mod it directly into the case truly never get to experience how relentless TSA can be when they suspect you.
I’ve taken computer parts a lot but never risked carry on. I always check bag it.
@@RaceSimCentral Wouldn't check bagging it be more nerve-racking because you can't keep it with you?
@@JebFromWarmDays that’s not a sentence.
@@thomasa5619 lol I tried
You could have built the pc inside the pelican suitcase😂😂. That would have been cool
Absolutely!
@@omg_gta I've taken a bunch of pc parts over the border in my checked bag before. They were a bit confused but honestly didn't care once they realized I was a tech nerd xD
@@Brandon-uy1uv yeah, shouldn't be a problem if checked.... With carryon you have the stricter procedures.
@@omg_gta the seperation thing is because of the battery. Supposedly they have the same density as some explosives, i literally travelled with a 19" network switch in my carry-on once and nobody cared.
TSA wouldn't like that
Some quick cnc drilling and that pelican case could have been the computer case itself
That's what I was thinking, it's like they've never hacked together a briefcase PC.
Sincerely, i was expecting the same. Some #hackapelicancasemod with RGB 🤓
Although the case wouldn't have been watertight and the back plate would be exposed.
Would've been cool if they were re-routed so you run it with the lid open though...
I think the airport would have had some concerns with how it appears on an X-ray
@@stue2642 They could have easily 3d printed a cover that quickly screws on
I always find these server videos fascinating. I can almost always pinpoint the exact moment that everything goes way over my head and I start to black out from info lol. In this case it’s (13:40) lol. Great work guys. Thanks for the content.
TrueNAS is a specialized OS for NAS (network attached storage) applications. Instead of having the computer run windows, they run this special OS so they can connect to its storage via the network.
@@Adlata Ever considered exaggeration for entertainment? You need to relax, this stuff isn't that deep.
@@Adlata … Winnie the troll? He said why he needs that particular pelican case (carryon not checked baggage), which limited his case choice, which limited everything else. This wasn’t careless, it was jank by design and not out of carelessness.
@@Adlata your previous comments are all hating on LTT. If you hate their content, just stop watching.
@@Adlataif you hate him so much then don’t watch him. All of your comments is you hating on him.
Here i go again drowning myself with knowledge that I can’t afford.
Imagine they go through all this effort and the flying company loses their baggage.
edit: yeah I get it's a carry-on, but your brain is so large that it suffocated itself in your small head and you missed the keyword IMAGINE
LTT stands for lesbian tech tips. AND this guy is clearly a lesbian
no way they wouldn't carry this stuff onboard the cabin
LOL @ "flying company". You mean airline? :D
That's why Linus specifically said that they're taking it as carry-on luggage.
@@Steamrick it's not "Linus". It's "the lesbian"
I just watched an entire video about how you’re going to make computers portable enough to provide media coverage for a trade show about computers.
what the hell, i just did the same thing 👁
Too much for sure.
Which content is going to be edited on a Mac 😂
@@nothanks5531 so did I! What a funny coincidence.
kinda wished this video was making the Pelican Case into the PC case
That's what I expected when the Pelican Case was brought out
Airport security might not like the idea. Or rather, while explaining that inside the case there is a computer would be true for either scenario; explaining that "this is what the inside of a computer looks like" is far more time consuming than presenting a black box as "a computer".
I use an Intel Optane cache drive for my 2TB mechanical drive that I store Steam games on. Works great for me.
Now that I finally upgraded my motherboard I have a spare m.2 slot so I should probably look up how to do this for my mechanical game drive.
@@hzuiel Honestly, just get rid of the mechanical drive at this point.
@@ivanmalinovski7807 Are you planning to pay for the replacement ssd? I already have the hard drive, and as they pointed out in the video, used optane drives are cheap. Just to replace a 2tb drive with an ssd is at least $150, several times more. If you were looking at a new setup its even more drastic if you are weighing hd vs ssd. 4tb for well under $100 or like $350 for ssd. That is a good chunk of change. My main ssd is 1tb, so some of my games i want to be snappier will be on it. Games I play less often on the hard drive.
@Zaydan Alfariz optane?
@Zaydan Alfariz I just looked up prices on Amazon. NVMe drives are about the same price as SATA drives, and some NVMe drives are actually cheaper.
Hey there @LinusTechTips team, professional DIT here. Your slower offloads on Windows are likely due to the single threaded operation of Explorer (including on Windows 11) and anything using its backend, while it’s most noticeable on underworked machines, switching to either a Robocopy based offload software, or going right to the command line Robocopy command itself and using the multi thread argument will allow you to get far closure to parity of a Mac machine, especially when using base clock limited CPUs.
why not just build the server directly in the Pelican case?
I think TSA may not like that solution
If you have to drill huge holes into the pelican case to create mounting points and airflow, then you've defeated the point of using a pelican case.
@@Top_Cheeze yes, that's what I was thinking, open it like a luggable Compaq from the 80's. In fact, pelican make cases like that, gas struts and all
@@DGotliebVids That might be the reason.
They had to steal the whole case and not just the computer inside.
Agreed with other posters - making the pelican case, the case, would’ve been a fun challenge. Lots of shock force damage to plan for and suck
Well yeah, but they need to deploy the system, they can't risk a challenge going wrong.
@@zekrinealfa1113 easy, build internal cage as a case, i would add tracks to, so i can bull it out 🎉
Airport security
@@boostio2720 trust me airport security wont care about whats in your pelican case unless its a Gun, drugs, or Cash well also bombs but a computer like this looks like a cheap office PC where the pelican case is worth more than the computer, also i bet they chose to make it a carryon size simply to prevent theft
Or ship the pc to where they are going, fly to said destination
I really thought that Linus was gonna screw the pc into the pelican case.
That's because that's what they _should_ have done. Shocked they didn't.
Try explaining that one to airport security.
@@Chazbc "It's a portable server" done.
My guess is because they don't it confiscated or weird stuff done by the airport security.
@@tefoca I think you overestimate airport security's willingness to listen to reason.
To anyone that says that He should have build it on the pelican case. Yes, it's a pretty fun idea, and it could be more beneficial considering it will give more room, which means there will be better airflow for the stuff inside. However, airport security can be kind of problem if you do so. Security can stop them because it's unusual to see a modified pelican case with lots of electronics inside.
I'd love to see that pelican case as the server itself, but I see why they decided the other route.
True, custom pelican cases for portable computers and electronics are usually made by the pelican case manufacturer. Not DIY solutions. Unless they really limited their space and used the foam of a pelican case without damaging/exposing the exterior; I don't think it would be timely and efficient solution unless they really planned far ahead for this trip.
How about using the 10k$ to rent a damn dedicated fiber in Las Vegas?? Just sounds like an excuse to get the editing team to Las Vegas on loll...
@@manuelsputnik True. Not to mention cooling in that thing. You wouldn't want to really drill holes that would make a potential entrance point - especially while traveling. Still a neat idea though. Weird how every comment of the 20 or so that I've read seem to all say the same thing though....
@@happinessiskey2858 could just open it for cooling
@@rkan2 They already had those drives, they did not buy new ones just for this.
My inspiration for my new series on yt shorts is from you!! You have such a good channel!
Edit: you have a sick intro too! 1:19
Well... I could get my 5950X run at 4.0 Ghz all-core and draw just below 90W in Cinebench (while at 4.3 Ghz is was sucking 160W, which means less than 10% performance uplift for close to twice the power consumption!), which makes it run cooler than my stock 3600X (although that one was sucking even 10W less power). The NH-L9a might actually be able to handle that after that manual tweaking. And going even a bit lower, like 3.8 Ghz, might increase the headroom for the cooler.
You don't do that to a production machine😑😑😑
@@xenajin6827 Correct. The "production" solution for high core count chips in a confined build like this would be either be ECO mode on the 5950X/5900X/5**0X (still pushing it) and/or acquiring the 65W R9 5900 non-X, the later of which powers my home server at 45W ECO mode with the board used in this video. I did have to strip it out of an OEM system, however.
@@xenajin6827 Sure but this is a server machine. Simply having more threads is almost always gonna be better than per core preformace.
@@xenajin6827 there’s a negligible performance loss between 4.3 GHz and 3.8 GHz lol, and it’s absolutely worth the reduced power usage especially for this kind of situation
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62 i think its more about stability where they don't want any possible setbacks for stuff like storage where running things mostly stock is the best option
I'm glad Linus touched on his hesitation to take that much storage across the border. I would like to see even a short or a float plane exclusive behind the scenes as to why that's possibly a bad idea because some people don't understand why that might be.
I'd have that portable server backed up to home-base before flying home. 24/7 background sync should do the trick over the course of the week, but not on that 5G hotspot.
@@MrTsolar makes sens, but they're using it as a local server to upload videos they take at the convention. Maybe they take some files from home, but main use will be to upload there
Yep. There’s a really serious risk crossing the border into and out of the US.
Would be really cool to see a debrief after CES on how this worked for you!
Create idea
I'm constantly reminded how powerful and small a workstation can be compared to 10 or even 20 years ago. It's amazing.
As a dude who travels and edits for long stretches abroad, this was very insightful. I don't need the bandwidth for a team, but I loved the approach to tackling the workstation build. Didn't even know they had dope mATX server motherboards like that and never occurred to me to even ask. Good call on the Pelican and dimensions too.
I feel like this is actually a viable market product. A tailor-made chassis for carry-on standards with its own protective case and potent-enough components is legitimately something I would strongly consider buying.
Would definitely love to see a video where the pelican case would be modified to both carry the server/pc parts and itself become the case by using modified brackets etc.
Last one to take their hand off the $20000 computer gets to keep it
These Mr. Beast videos are crazy man
I'd like to see linus and mr.beast Collab
the next mrbeast video
First one to leave an original comment wins. Too bad.
I've definitely had baggage handlers break things well packed inside a Pelican case... It's their specialty.
Linus: i think we’re gunna have to send the shooters
Also Linus : ……so anyways i started blasting
I was looking for this comment, nobody batting an eye at Linus talking about sending the shooters
@@binge4ever602 sending shooters to Vegas no less 😂
@@binge4ever602 Saaame hahaha
Absolutely love to see the 10gig networking equipment. I really wish I could find one of those CalDigit 10g networking adapters for a laptop. Crazy how you have 4 of them! I'm in the process of building a 10gig NAS in a small form factor case, all because of your videos!!! Keep up the good work 😁
Where are the vidoes from CES made with this computer.????
Agree I see no evidence this was even working since ltt didn't release any significant content at CES and they are slowly releasing it after the fact.
Based on the comments, and the fact I was asking the same question while watching... I think maybe it's time to build a portable server, and as some have also said, that pelican box, or maybe something similar, could be made into a pretty awesome portable server box.
Imagine that box, but with a little door you could open up to access all the power/IO, maybe even one of those small 4 port toolless hotswap bays poking out the side so you can quickly slap in more storage, there's so many options since that box is actually kind of large, just wheel it in, park it next to a rack or power point and plug and play.
If you don't need 10GbE and 30+TB of storage, then an Intel NUC wouldn't probably do the job just fine.
@@katrinabryce Well...yeah lol, if you didn't need all that stuff, a large number of things would do the job just fine, hence the term "portable server".
*cough* TSA *cough*
I suppose you could use 19" rack cases for audio devices. They are usually 13" deep, but you can find server case for matx with this depth
@@oiytd5wugho TSA is gonna think it’s a bomb lol
Can't wait to see what the editing den looks like at CES. Do you get a separate room and ask for no beds and extra desks? Similar to how some vendors use rooms?
Thats good timing for me. Thanks for the constant content
I feel like you could've just found a university in Las Vegas and used their gigabit WiFi to upload and saved yourself a lot of hassle
@@EoRdE6 a lot of their switches will support 2.5 gig too so going from building to building you might get lucky and their uplink is probably bonded 10 gigs so way better than spinning rust for sure, but then on the other hand those kioxia drives are pretty badass
About a decade ago, I used to travel with a Pelican 1430 top loader carry-on (that could slide underseat even) as an AIO VR-capable devkit/workstation. The Pelican's polypropylene case can handle direct mounting of electronics - in my case, I used a combination of friction fitting with a single tiny 3D printed bracket and some judicious drilling and and it survived dozens of intercontinental flights and being lugged around the world without failure. The enclosure also kept it's IP67 rating when traveling - I just left the lid open when I was running it and had power and backplate aimed up so it was a breeze to plug in anywhere and didn't need any additional ventilation. I switched to an NFC S4 eventually for weight savings, but I can highly recommend the 1430 for someone looking to build a compact & portable, easy to ventilate system in a box.
Really?? I though he would say "we are going to use a satellite connection to upload the videos" I was not expecting him to send his entire editing team 😂
PowerMan has always been InWin's inhouse brand (all the way back to the 90s) and they're just rebranded FSP power supplies, so they are certainly a reliable brand.
Ah, the "shitty branding" bellcurve. It's either pure chinesium or justified nonchalant confidence.
You should have built it into the pelican case!
Excited to see full CES coverage again. I've always enjoyed them in previous years before 2020.
I’ve definitely had to pry off backplates from server boards like this. Best done by heating up using a hairdryer on low for a bit, but don’t overdo it
One thing I’ll say though is that ZFS, if anything, will be /less/ susceptible and more resilient to memory errors than competing filesystems-the recommendation to use ECC with it is basically amounts to ‘look, you love your data, why screw around?’
It also helps a lot with making the system a lot more stable, more so since they will be at hotels and can't guarantee that the energy from the walls would be stable enough.
@@Moon-Haa yeah, I absolutely do not fault them for this choice, and only take issue with the stated justification here
Honestly I’m surprised they didn’t make a custom solution for their own needs using the tools they have in house. I’m sure an Alex solution would be of equal entertainment
The problem with an Alex solution would have been that the amount of liquid inside the water-cooling system would have violated FAA regs and would not have been allowed onto the plane.
I had to use this case with my spare matx motherboard to build my custom router, so this was really fun to watch! I found that undervolting (CO for the 5700x) helped a lot with thermals.
6:30 typical Linus showing his skills in dropping things
Nice build! at least the need to travel with this kind of equipment is not a regular... case
LOL!!!
Hearing Linus say "Warthunder" triggers my fight or flight
very good timing, thank you LMG team
I would love to see, a vlog about the editing on the Macbooks. Just curious how they stack up compared to BIG "portable" laptop you guys used to bring to the convention.
The tech gang vlog with Luu, Austin, MKBHD, UaC, jay....great memories
I have a desktop machine with a 3070, 32 gbs ram and a ryzen 5. My similarly priced macbook is on par if not better than my desktop in most editing tasks.
New arm based macs are beasts. They also mentioned that in the reviews of the macbooks.
So it's 20k because it has 2x10k storage drives.....
I hope that Linus will continue to do screwdriver flips for years to come. Pure awesomeness
LTT's business model is excellent, it's making videos about how to make videos, and how to make those videos.
It's a bit funny how on the road the LTT team will be running Linux and macOS!
But you use the right tool for the job and right now, Apple's laptops definitely blow away anything else for video editing. At least the Pro models with fans...
xD I'm guessing if they had editors used to Final Cut, it would be even more impressive turn around times! Love your videos Jeff, hope all is well and happy holidays
I also hope they won't need to use spotlight with truenas
@@habu30 Heh, you just make sure that's disabled on any network drives!
I would have done this build when everyone is back in the office. You have all the tools like the cnc and laser cutter to make a fully custom pelli case build. Would have so much space and you could pack so much more in!
That would be a risky move - CES is first week of January (starts on Jan 5th, so they probably are going a day or two earlier), so if *anything* went wrong during the build, they could end up without gear for the trip.
5:15 I mean ECO mode is an option, one that can handle and an R9 5950X in ECO mode can handle a lot more workstation loads than a R7 5700X no matter the mode (I think the ECO mode of the 5950X targets 65W as well) and if 8 cores is enough, the 5700G maybe can be a better choice, thanks to having an iGPU just in case, but I suppose at that point is a choice between iGPU or PCIe 4.0 (as the 5700G doesn’t have support for it for some reason)
I thought so too. Alternatively, since they can dremel, I guess they can use a NH-C14S or a Scythe Shuriken 3 for cooling the 5950x.
The motherboard they choose already has an "graphical card" built-in on the management controller, and it also has support for ipmi, so they don't need to have integrated graphics on the cpu itself.
I was wondering why they used a CPU that only supported PCIe 3.0 as well. Seems like the 5900 (non-x) would have been a better option if they could find one. 65w, 12-cores, PCIe 4.0.
@@aa-yt7wo Your second point is spot on (I have one and love it) but the 5700X does support PCIe 4.0.
@@aa-yt7wo I know right? Else they can just run 5900x at ECO mode.
I have a Peli 1510 as a tool/kitbox it's been such reliable companion over the years, nice to see it get a shoutout.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS WHOLE THING OPERATIN. All the editors doing all stuf at the same time, pushing this to the max........ gorgeous
Did Linus push down on a PGA based CPU?
TSA is not gonna like this
Don't call your staff shooters
If there is no video: "What all things Linus has dropped at yeat 2022" I'm going to have a single person riot.
They just put it out recently in a clip under "review all our awful videos"..plus there's a dedicated channel run by somebody lol
7:49 oh that reminds me, I never talked to you about our sponsor!
I remember those cases. Back in the big chip shortage era, there weren't slim-design OEM PCs in stock. I had to get creative and assemble 5-6 PC for our Warehouse to be mounted under a working table in a very tight space.
Another great video LTT team.
He did this video and they haven't even posted anything from CES. smh
8:17 Hoping IO shield is coming at some point
I've been using that case for about a year and really like it. I swapped the front fan for the same Noctua one last week. The stock one is a bit noisy. I didn't have to dremel the fan for it to fit though... It's pretty amazing just how much fits in there. In mine, I have a Ryzen 3400G, 16GB RAM, 512GB NVMe (boot), 14TB HDD (storage), 1TB SSD (fast storage), Nvidia T600 GPU (NVenc) and 4K60 Pro (capture card), and a slim DVD drive too because I didn' t want the bay sitting empty. So in total, mine's only worth about $1300 for a quiet capture/streaming machine that can also do editing. Overall, I think the case could use more airflow, but the amount you can pack in there is really impressive and overall it's still on par with a lot of mini-ITX cases.
I really enjoy the person behind the camera being named Brandon it's like he's talking right to me I love it lol
20,000 dollar heater no way
What’s with the blur at 15:33? They show it on screen right after
Nope, they blurred an Early Access Ubiquiti Product, then showed a different MiFi in the screengrab...
I bet hotels didn't expect their budget cuts on internet would bring MORE customers...
Why not build a mobile server into pelican case itself?
@@james2042 IO can be turned up, so you open the case and there it is, and also it's vented now
Appreciate the few shoutouts in this video. Didn't say most of the replies, but since everyone can't hear me anyway, I'm cool with it.
The impatience of the LTT guys is immeasurable. Fantastic.
5950x at 100w ppt is easy on one of those. Source: my own tiny rig
You could have just gotten a metal plate that fit the travel case, drilled some holes in it and put the mother board on top of it.
Could you just bring the laptop and and editor, load everything from the camera directly to the laptop and edit it and post it and then just dump the files from the laptop onto your server when you get back on the local network?
Its gonna take them atleast 12 hours loading that up to laptop
@@MonicaHolly143 Transferring data onto the server or laptop will require the same steps and the same time. Only reason to have a server with them there is if they have multiple editors working on the same data.
7:35 what actually stiffens it up against torsion is the sidepanel, which you don't have on...
I used that case to build my dad a low spec all day media use computer and it was really fucking nice. No real tools needed and very intuitive. The original power supply was also 425 watts so maybe it was a sightly different model but it's been over 2 years and still going strong.
It's crazy how quickly CES is pulling up again. Feels like the last one wasn't that long ago!
Christmas is soonz
100% i would make the pelican the actual case, wayyy enough space for some AIO or something and a couple real fans ...
Linus and his sponsor segues. This one actually got a chuckle out of me.
"So we're sending our shooters "
3 letter agencies would like to know your location.
Sweet build, I assume you know this but there are pelican cases that are server racks. The rack is built right into the case and the front and back remove for access. Not carry on but very sick.
OK, that flashback to 2013 video... Linus, don't loose the beard bro... 😆
Yeah he is infinitely better with that beard. He actually looks like a man now, not like a soyboy he was in 2019 and earlier
UA-cam asked me about this video. I told them it was helpful and interesting
Don’t care
@@user-hy8zo9eu8q You cared enough to let me know
I found it useless.
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Happy to see the MBP get some recognition. Honestly, if Adobe would spend the time optimizing their software, I’d bet the Mac would outperform the PC laptop he referred to.
I actually built a PC with the Silverstone SG13 case and put it in a Pelican 1510 and brought it halfway across the world with me. Had a Ryzen 5 1600 and a full-size msi 1060 6GB from my old system, along with a 120mm AIO in the front, M.2, 3.5" hard drive and a full-size power supply. Worked really well and even had extra space to hold my G-pro wireless and an XBOX controller.
Do you know what you needed? a friking a eurocom laptop
Couldn't you find someone with high speed internet and send data through their connection? Could be an internet cafe or something
Too simple and reliable.
It's just content really. There are much more simple (but boring) methods of handling this
They work with pretty big files coming from the cameras, hence the 30tb drives. Transferring that much data with even a high speed connection is gonna take more than a couple of hours.
Editors could probably already have a first cut (or even a final video) by the time it takes to upload the data to their home base.
They could have reserved an Airbnb that has gigabit fiber internet from CenturyLink. Much better than relying on cellular internet, which all networks will tank.
@@tinsucevic They're editing locally, and only uploading a few hundred gigabytes to YT/Floatplane. That's the point of this video, they're taking the editors with them. No need to send TB's of video to homebase.
I know you can, but why would you need a file server for a few CES videos (besides the fact it makes a great video) a few thunderbolt SSD's would do the job in a much smaller package imo.
It's not a good solution for their workflow to have all the raw footage and edited footage across multiple storage drives without any redundancy.
@@manuelsputnik ok so a thunderbolt nas/das still a lot smaller then a server
I really love that Linus is explaining everything he does so thoroughly, it’s really interesting and you learn a lot about troubleshooting.👍
Can we get a followup of how it performed during the event?
I really enjoy this type of video. It's about solving a real world problem, instead of just building another super high end gaming pc.
My computer costs 100$ 😂
*as I laugh in pain*
Can someone tell me how a Ryzen CPU without an iGPU can display to a monitor without a gpu installed
Because it's a server style board, there's a very basic video chip built into the motherboard and has a VGA output. There's also an HDMI port for the Ryzen G chip output.
@@craigmurray4746 thanks.
@@craigmurray4746 now that i think about it, how else would they implement the the iKVM/IPMI functionality.
@@craigmurray4746 That doesn't sound right.
The install and display is (probably) happening over LAN. The laptop sends instructions/data through the LAN cable to the small desktop box, and the desktop box simply communicates back to the laptop using the same cable. It's been done for a long time now.
why didnt you install the i/o shield?
better airflow for such a restricted case i think
another excellent TrueNAS SCALE use case!
12:38 most underrated pun
bet linus himself didnt even notice