Free Mantis tiller leaks gas and won't start
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This Mantis tiller was in storage over the winter and after getting out for some spring use, it didn't start. Also after fuel was put in it, the carb started leaking as well. - Авто та транспорт
Crazy. My father inlaw gave me one like new about 10 years ago. It's been sitting in my shed. Got it running today.
excellent work
Little guy is great for small garden or weeding between plants etc. Great fix on that carb. Thanks for the video.
no problem, thank you D Butler
I've had my little Mantis tiller since 2001. Still runs great after all these years. My secret is to use ethanol free gas and to drain all the gas that's left after using it. The only problem I ever had with it was the handle bars broke from the jumping around and vibration.
wow, yours has been really good to you, you've taken good care of it as well.
I like that secret, and here's my secret. Soak the area you plan on tilling 2 days before hand. The tiller will not only glide through the soul easier, but it won't rattle the handle bars loose 👍😂, especially since you know all this stuff made cheap from China.
you couldn't handle it
Both of my sisters owned these and had trouble keeping them running after a while. I rebuilt the carburetors, replaced the fuel lines, spark plugs and had both of them run ethanol free fuel and empty after use. Run them dry of the remaining fuel. Since then I've bought 4 at yard sales, never paying more than 25 bucks. One was 10 bucks. Rebuild them and resell. One had a cracked fuel tank. There easy to work on but extremely tempermental.
you are correct these can sometimes be had for very little and it doesn't take too much money to get them running again
New subscriber here,
I find that the bigger tillers that you walk behind make easy work of a garden but these little ones are good for weeding an entire garden in the springtime, they really aren't powerful enough to break the ground like a big tiller is. Great video as always!
thank you Andrew Marola
Well Home garage you got yourself a free working tiller
yep, just don't know what I'm going to do with it.
Got the older version of this from my neighbor after it sat in a shed for who knows how long. Got it running after alot of struggling and although it sounds like it’s got a hole in the muffler and smokes like a banshee, that little thing packs a punch!
Nice work, and you're right, these are great machines!
We have a 5 hp Troy built roto tiller new it jut needed new oil and a spark plug, and the fuel lines were all broken.the crazy thing is, it was in a free pile on the side of the road, like, people will really throw away anything, good thing we stopped and got it, it didn’t look to new, a few rust spots, but hey, if its free and fixable, then why not try to fix it and use it. Doesn’t hurt to have one more tool.
I like the way you think. Thank you Alexander Costa.
Great find and awesome repair.👍🙏👍🙏. This one is wonderful for small work like raise beds.
you're right, too bad I don't do gardens anymore.
Great repair. Thanks for sharing, wouldn't mind picking one of these up for the backyard gardens in the spring. 👌
yes they are definitely handy. Thank you One Sad Tech
That free mantis looks brand new.
I know right!
@@HomeGaragechannel yeah. Sweet find. Awesome little machine.
thanks!
Great info. Found the same model DOA on the side of the road a few months back. Replaced carburetor and have a great working tiller.
Nice find. Thanks for the comment
How can Home Garage resist the words Mantis and free. Remember folks, little tillers need to be tuned under load or they will return.
that is very true. I kept the real tuning off camera, keeps the video from being boring to most people
@@HomeGaragechannel Hey, more carbon monoxide for you.
@@HomeGaragechannel Nonsense! Your videos are NEVER boring! Great job. Thanks for your time.
@@apatterson8128 thank you A Patterson.
My dad bought one of these about 20 years ago but hasn’t used it in about 10 years until I got it running.
We almost threw it away as we initially didn’t need it anymore. I still wanted to fix it and even pointed out that I could use it as a sidewalk edger as we still have the attachment for it.
Turns out the mantis is very good at setting an edge for spreading mulch on garden beds in addition to edging our sidewalks!
I’m glad I insisted on fixing it as all it took was a carburetor rebuild and a good cleaning to bring it back to life.
very nice work and these are really cool to have
Nice fix. They are really good after the garden is planted to cultivate around tomatoes, and veggies. Thanks for the video.
thank you Waterman one.
We have always tilled our whole garden with ours. It's a workhorse that gets the ground dug up in half the time and almost no back pain compared to the big tillers. It chews up everything in sight! The perfect time to till is when the ground is just a little damp. Not dry, not soggy. We have that gumbo dirt which is like clay. It is terrible when you use the big tillers!
What a great video! I am now a subscriber. I didn't need this info (yet), but loved your presentation and know there will be many more super useful videos.
thank you Thom Bluemel.
Another great video thanks keep up the good work I enjoy them very much also thank you for the effort and time you go to making them
I really do appreciate that John Daye
These are good for flower beds and small digging spaces. I had the equivalent for my Echo convertible and used it a good bit till my gardening Sweetie went to raised beds and mulching. I also used a Gravely with a rotary plow to loosen everything up. Good fix and Blessings.
you are correct, their light weight makes them really nice to use, in small areas.
That was a great find and fix! I have the same tiller except it’s branded Echo, it’s a very useful thing to have around. The de-thatching accessory is very good on these, my lawn looks so much better now since I started using it before fertilizing in the spring.
oh there's a de-thatching accessory? I need to find one. how did you get yours?
@@HomeGaragechannel I bought the kit from a eBay seller. It comes with fender extensions and the de-thatching axles that you put in place of the tiller tines. A friend recently gave me the edger accessory for it too but I haven’t used it yet. I’ve seen the de-thatcher kit on Craigslist too.
@@mjg263 gotcha thank you
Perfect video, just what I was looking for. New Subscriber.
thank you Cass Conner!
Free? Who gives a Mantis away? Crazy. I just replace the carburetor and all the lines. I got one for $30 last year. I sold it for $175. The kit I got had the carburetor, spark plug, fuel lines, gas tank bung, and filters. Today's fuels destroy those diaphragms and fuel lines. I pretty much stopped rebuilding carburetors last year. It's easier and cheaper just to replace. Good video, hell of a find.
Right!? I had the same situation come up before but I had to buy a used mantis as well.
It was definitely taken care and kept inside or the chrome handles would of been rusty. Unlike lawnmowers that are used once or twice a week a tiller is used just a few hours a year and can last a lot of years
yes you made a great point.
Our Mantis Tiller is about 25 years old. We used it every year for about 10 years, then we moved and I had heart attacks in 2005. We had it tuned up similar to what you just showed and that cost us about $69, but it was worth it. We didn't get to use it for the next 15 years, and we pulled it from storage a few days ago, and after a few minutes of priming it up, it's a dirt storm all over again! Dug up our garden much faster and much less work than the monster tillers ever did! It's a good thing you didn't get too deep in the earth you were digging in, as those things create a serious dust storm once they get a good grip on the ground, if it's dry, like that. Ours was damp enough to prevent the storm. And it doesn't create the back pain of the big tillers, either. Best $300 we ever spent on the garden, other than the ComposTumbler we bought at the same time (about 25 years ago) and it's still going, too!
Forgot to mention that our gardens were always about 45'x12' for those first 10 years. This one is a little smaller, as I'm recovering from heart surgery, so I didn't want to make it too big. We've never used a big tiller since we got this little workhorse!
very nice and yes I'm glad I didn't go much deeper either
Good little tiller,they are very expensive look them yup on line.I had to replace the transmission on a customer,cost around 100.00.The transmission had no grease in it.Take the back cover off and check the grease in it.Nice video.
Thank you for that information, I'll have to do that.
I have had 4 Mantis tickets in my shop in the last 6 weeks. Echo makes the engine. Very finicky little tiller to get dialed in and running right. Good for small raised beds with soft soil.
Yes as you saw in the video, I should have used it In a prepared bed. Thanks for not giving me a hard time about that
Had one like this lovely little bit of kit very bouncy on hard ground but great on softer ground
Thanks for sharing
Hold the handles lower to the ground to stop it bouncing
I purchased one of those second hand.
For my allotment here in the uk . 15 years ago .
For £20 . It's still going strong .
I know new they were quite expensive. Here in the uk anyway .
Mine must have hundreds of hours on it .
It only ever has fuel put into it when it's needed .
Always emptied when finished with .
New plug every year .
Only breakdown was a coil . One carb rebuild
It owes me nothing .
Noisy yes but it's light and easy to use .
Thank you Martin Nightingale, I appreciate you sharing your experience.
Looks pretty solid
Yes I thought so too.
I love my mantis tiller gets into my garden beds to till around the other plants already there where my troy bilt hoarse would be to huge to use.
makes absolutely sense. Thank you Fred McMurray
For free it's great for flower beds and small veggie gardens
Yep too bad I don't have either.
My mantis is hard to start, once I get it started, if I shut it off it won't start again. I just changed the carburetor and put a new pull rope on it. I appreciate this video I'm going to try to adjust those screws to see if it helps any.
Thank you cutflower,
Yes I could use one in flower beds. I look at them once, but though they expensive for size and usage.
I understand how you feel about them but used seems to be the best option then.
I just discarded my curb find Mantis tiller. It only had about 50 psi pressure but I went ahead and bought a carburetor. It was hard to keep running,then I took the muffler off and saw the scoring on the piston. I should have followed your diagnosing advice. Kept the carburetor though.
sorry to hear that,
yep for sure and i love a good roto tiller and for me it would work good for the garden beds i have etc.
I completely agree with you
@@HomeGaragechannel strewth.
This engine reminds me of an older echo trimmer, great video btw
yes you really exactly right
Good job HG that was an easy one eh! 👍
Yes it was straight forward
Great video. More of a cultivator even though they call it a tiller. Great for weeding up and down the rows in a garden. Dont try to break ground with it. Thanks!
I wish I know the before I tried, and yes its really a cultivator. thank you Mike H.
@@HomeGaragechannel Ask me how I know. Lol
Soak the dirt well, then let it dry for a bit before using. Won't pulverize the soil that way. Also, it tills better when you pull it backwards
@@Mike-ig2zq how do you know?
@@lawrencewheeler8868 ah, nice of you to share some tips
I have that exact same one, it's leaking from the tank where the fuel lines come out. On top of that no fuel is being pumped in when I try to prime it. I bought mine used and had it for about 2 years now, it's not something I'd want to use on a large scale, but it's great for a backyard setting. My soil is pure clay and it chews threw it no problem, well in it's running. I've ordered a new fuel tank and carburetor kit and will refer to this vid if I can find it again.
yes these are excellent machines and I hope you can get it running again
Good job
Thanks
Free is good. I do not have any use for this type of tiller, but for free you can sell it and make a little money.
yes you're absolutely right. thank you William Snow
Great machine ...amazing videos boss🤩😍💗👌
thank you Mohammed Nazeel
Those are good quality tillers. I have one in the garage I need to work on it was my neighbors and they gave it to me when they have it to me they had just had it worked on but it still had a hard to start problem. Where do you by your 2 cycle carb kits?
I don't buy the kits, just the metering diaphragms and I find them on Amazon.
I just came across you video and this was just what I was looking for! BUT, you posted it 2yrs ago🤥 so I don't know if you will answer. What kind of fuel stray did you apply on the carbonator throat? Thanks for your video!
That was a good work home
thank you Uni Sol
To keep it from hopping you need to pull back toward you with moderate down pressure. Kind of opposite of what you think it should do. Yup I own one.
thank you Richard Luce for the advice.
Hey I have this exact same tiller! Mine runs great and has very little run time on it. I do notice a few slight differences between mine and this one.
What are some of the differences?
@@HomeGaragechannel The throttle handle is slightly different, the spark plug boot on mine is a little bigger and covers the plug more, and the vents on the cover on top of the engine on mine are different.
@@paulspomer16 thank I appreciate you letting me know
Garden scratcher as Taryl calls them
Lol.. that's about right
@@HomeGaragechannel Yes they just scratch the surface lol
So is it because of the old age of the tiller that you have to adjust the idle and L-screws to have it run properly or was it because someone accidentally turned to the wrong position in the past? Thank you for the great and detailed explanation!
no problem, yes the engine has developed it's own needs as it's been used and due to age. The adjustments help you to fine tune the carb to the engines needs.
@@HomeGaragechannel I see. I love how very knowledgeable you are and I can see myself learn a lot from you!
@@SkyShadowReviews Thank you I really appreciate that.
I have the exact tiller. I put Techron in mine and it does start and run even though the fuel leaks. I just bought a new carb for $12 on Amazon. It came with all new lines and an extra primer bulb. I didn’t put it on yet. I hear these engines are near indestructible
as long as theres enough oil in the gasoline, they are very durable.
@@HomeGaragechannel I bought a cultivator attachment for my 4 stroke string trimmer and was going to put the mantis on the curb too. The cultivator attachment is ok but not as good as the mantis. I only use the tiller once a year and it use to take 4 hours to get it running every year. With Techron, it is much better but it still takes 15 mins. I wish there was a fuel shutoff valve so I could run the carb dry before storage
you can find some aftermarket valves for this size fuel line.
Great video, whats the gas mixture to oil.
I think it's 50:1, but I could be wrong.
I think they work better on the back stroke like let if go ahead of you and pull it back
yes I think you're right
What type of bottle did you use to squirt fuel into the carb at the beginning?
It's a chemical squeeze bottle from Amazon
That engine on that tiller is an echo / yamabiko engine they also have one with a little honda engine on it which is a good tiller compared to the troybilt 2 stroke mini tillers which is not a good tiller because it uses the same engine that their 25cc troy bilt trimmers use. I'd get the mantis because its be sold through dealers and you get better service from a dealership than a big box store and you can fix a mantis easily
I completely agree with you
If you had a fearly large aera but not to big then i would definitly have one of them.
that makes complete sense
can you plzzzzzz do a video on how to put an tank gromit on small engine because i suck at putting them in
I can, but I would have to incorporate it with a project and not just the grommet. The key is making sure you have the right size, and some grease helps
yeah i realized it was the wrong size lol@@HomeGaragechannel
I rebuilt a Mantis this spring (free from neighbor) its 1987. Echo SV-4 Engine. So old not even a primer bulb on the carb. Had to scour eBay for a carb replacement. That’s the question here how does that work...gravity?
the engine pulses work the pumping diaphragm and draw the Fuel into the Carb, no gravity use here unless the tank is completely higher than the Carb
I use small one like this one, but electric, in my glasshouse.
nice, nothing wrong with that
I'm going to need a lot bigger Tiller than that !
Yes I could imagine the one you might want. very big with driving wheels.
do you have a link or do you know the part # for the Metering Diaphragm
that are the short stem? i order them 3 times already but the keep sending me the tall stem. thanks in advance
It's in the description
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you...i.will keep looking
What website is it that you use to find free mowers and tillers and trimmers and blowers?
I use Craigslist and FB marketplace
Ahh, copy that :)
both air filter screws need to be tight not like you loosened one because choke was grabing, it should be spacer between
I believe the spacer was already gone when I got it. thanks for noticing.
I have a powermate 5.75 tiller that won't start but it's on 2-3 years old and maybe has had about 2 hours max of use. Is it likely just that the carb needs cleaned? The gas was not drain over winter. Starts with starter fluid but acts like it has no gas in it.
yes from what you've told me, it sounds like it need a carb clean.
@@HomeGaragechannel thank you
no problem
Oh my goodness.
They retail for €500 new and hold their value.
🇮🇪🇪🇺
that's what I was thinking too.
All of that bouncing around would drive me nuts! I prefer a heavier rear tine tiller. It’s much less frustrating for an older guy.
I hear what you're saying. they're mainly used for flowerbeds.
I use a Mantis in raised garden beds to fine soil that has been turned with a shovel. I would call it more of a cultivator than a tiller. It beats chopping soil by hand. What you tried to do made me sad.
me too
@@HomeGaragechannel When you till ground it is really a two step process. First you break soil up into clods then you break clods up into fines. A Mantis is really only good for step two. Cultivating is the tedious work. Using a Mantis makes it much more tolerable. It's been a game changer for me. Gets me done many times faster than not having it. That's huge.
@@1pcfred yes you're absolutely right. Unfortunately no gardens were available at the time
@@HomeGaragechannel you do not have a garden? I have to go out and check mine. The peas are starting to come in. I love fresh peas.
@@1pcfred as a child we had one because we love long green beans. But no I don't have one
Good info, but like most such videos, saying something like "turn the his screw out 1/2 turn" means nothing when we aren't told the initial setting; ie, "Beginning with both both screws turned clockwise in all the way, start by turning the high idle screw counterclock X turns." That small amount of info make a huge difference.
you are correct, and besides these setting only apply to this particular carb, and may not work for yours. So no reference is needed.
@HomeGaragechannel I found that particular carb replacement on Amazon, and a detailed video where the screw settings start at zero for reference, and the precise amount to back off counter-clockwise. It worked.
nice work!
These Aren't really tillers they are cultivators. Made to cultivate gardens and flower beds that have already been tilled.
yes you are completely correct about the misnomer.
It depends on which way you put on the tines. I have definitely used it as a tiller
This is whats called a cultivator, different application than a tiller
You are absolutely correct
@@HomeGaragechannel I love your videos, do you think you could do one on the basics of small motor carb adjustments?
@@smokeeater1769 I don't usually because every machine is different. If I do make one, it may be more caude more confusion when compared to one of my other videos. I'll consider it tho
There is no valves in a two stroke
not in this one
That engine does don't have much carbon on it. I don't think it was used much
my thoughts too.
Sell it quick. It’s a kids toy. Rather use a shovel.
it definitely has some major disadvantages.
Then after a shovel you're going to be using a cultivator to break up clods for quite some time without one of these.
One of my worst purchases. Never again. Do yourself a favor and get an ACTUAL rotor tiller. These things are useless.
I only find them good for flower beds.
hi