Trashed Mantis Tiller Repair
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2022
- A local subscriber dropped off this tiller. I believe it was picked out of the trash. There are a bunch of missing parts. Can it be saved and is it worth it?
Mantis Tiller Model: 7222
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C1U-K54A Carburetor Replaces # C1U-K54 C1U-K82 C1U-K17 C1U-K27 C1U-K27A C1U-K27B C1U-K46, Echo A021001090 A021001091 A021001092 A021001093.For Mantis / Echo / Little Wonder tiller, cultivator and trimmer carb with 2-cycle engine.
Mantis tiller carburetor Fits For 2-cycle Mantis tiller / cultivator 7222 722E 7222M 7225 7230 7234 7240 7920 7924. For mantis tiller, mantis 7222 SV-5C, mantis 7222 tiller.
Replaces ECHO / Mantis 12520013120 12520013121 12520013122 12520013123 12520013124 12520013125 12520013126 12520013127 12520013128 12520012820 12520011821 12520011822 12520011823 12520005360 12520005361 A021001090 A021001091 A021001092 A021001093
Echo Tiller Cultivator Carburetor Fits ECHO SV-4B SV-4B(H) SV-5C SV-5C/1 SV-5C/2 SV-5Ci SV-5Ci/2 SV-5H/2 SV-6 SV-6/1 SV-6/2 engine; TC-210 TC-210i TC-2100 HC-1500 tiller / hedge trimmer.
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Ours was the Praying Mantis, we always prayed it would start.
I had this exact model in the early '90's I loved it! As I recall, there was a sequence to follow. 7 pumps on the choke, 4 pulls with the adjustment on the side one way, and 3 pulls with it slid the other way. That's from a cold start. I wish I had kept it.
Best tiller ever, I've had my Mantis for about 30 years and it's still going strong,
I have picked up a Mantis tiller for my daughter for her Birthday. I will go completely through it before I give it to her. I have a TB45 tiller for my use. I rebuilt it a couple of years ago. We tilled her garden with it last year and she loved it, so I picked her up one.
Just as I was going to nod off here in Australia, it's time to stay up for some of my favourite content.
I intend on buying this tiller, second-hand, from someone today. That someone had already followed your video, bought the kit and did the necessary work to get it functional.
You did, for sure, help someone. Great video! Much appreciated!
Good score Those are made in Japan it's missing the kick stand that attaches to the lower handles , they are great for garden boxes
Just bought the Amazon Hipa carb after watching!
Nice little machine I need to get one of these little mantis tillers for my wifes Inground Garden that is 50x50
I read all the comments and no one mentioned the hedge trimmer attachment you could buy for these. They were tough as nails, worked great, and it was easy and quick to change the engine head between tiller and hedge trimmer. Bought mine in 1996 and it's still going strong!
I didn't even know they offered one, tks. for sharing that. I'll keep my eyes open for one!
@@Thomas-fo9zu I have a 24 inch double sided blade, (cuts on both sides). They made longer single side cutters. Going on memory, can't find my manual. I also have an edger for sidewalks and a crevice cleaner for fracture lines in cement. Edger is just a straight toothed tine wheel, and crevice cleaner is a stiff wire wheel. They mount on one side and have a wheel for the other. Edger and cleaner are ok, but I am very impressed with hedge trimmer. Used it a lot, will cut through pretty thick stuff, never any problems.
Echo makes the engine for mantis and is the same engine for the hedge trimmer. This mantis is one heck of a machine.
@@billringel4972 Kioritz made the engines for mantis. Echo and Mantis made the same tiller, just different color and very minor changes. Good engine with a lot of power for 21.2 cc's displacement.
Always enjoy the challenge of fixing up a machine that was given up on,those are good little machines
My father bought one these back around 1990 and I still have and use it. About 5 years ago it needed a new bulb, cost around $10 from Mantis. They used to sell them via magazine and TV commercial...you couldn't find them in stores. The old ones have a grease nipple on the front of the gear box and the tines are reversible for tilling or mulching. I have a 20x30ft garden that it broke the ground one some 16yrs ago and I still use it for new flower beds ect. Great little tools that are built to last. You have to sort of operate them as if you were water skiing, that is, lean back and let it dig as you sway slightly from side to side.
I have the exact same story, 25 years since it ran, I replaced the carb with a cheap kit and cleaned out the fuel tank. I tilled the garden and thought of how my dad would be happy.
I have that same tiller. It needs some love also. Watching with excitement.
James: I had the SAME problem on my Mantis engiine.
When I went to put on the NEW rubber pumper bulb, the screws would NO LONGER REACH the carb body threads.
I ended up buying TWO different lengths of new screws to fit.
The flange on the new rubber pumper bulbs are THICKER than the originals.
And as such need longer screws.
Thanks for helping me tune my dad’s mantis. Bought a new carb for it and it refused to run at all. Some fiddling with the low speed and it rips right along now.
I put mantis aerator tines on my Mantis, yesterday and they work fine. I am going to overseed parts of my lawn, today after I finish aerating all of it. Grass does get hung up on the tines but it only takes a little bit to remove it. I have a set of weed reducers but they are on my power tines. These, keep weeds, grass and roots from getting between the tines and the gear case.
Love the look of our Mantis Tiller just can't keep it going. Maybe, I don't have the patience for all the tuning of the carb and stuff but, a nice looking garden tool.
I had one of those in my shop a year or so ago with the same Echo family motor, exact same issues, carb, fuel lines etc. After I got it going with a new carb, parts, etc., I could never get it to really run right, after put in a new spark plug and cleaned the spark arrestor, it really screamed like banshee. I liked it so well, I nearly kept it for myself, but my neighbor saw me working on it and made me a offer I couldn't refuse. . . . thanks for Thursday James video day!
I borrowed one of these mantis tillers some years ago.... they work quite well, and really are the "ticket" for small jobs. 2-stroke carbs I find to be extra "fiddly"... SOO nice that the fix-up kit was available. Also good news that the aftermarket carb did an OK job.
That’s why I ponied up the extra dollars and bought one with the legendary Honda engine. “Fiddly” gone!
I pulled the carb and disassembled it and cooked it in my ultra sonic with Dawn, a little Purple cleaner and vinegar. Then rebuilt it with a new carb kit. The bottommost plate on its carb has an orifice that must be cleaned. It has a little O ring in it. I cleaned the gas tank, perfectly, and put new fuel lines in it
@@davidfoulk3078 David, I have seen the Honda variety, but I have a Troy Built, four cycle. I beat it to death this weekend at my daughters making her a winter garden. She had been turning it with a shovel for several years. I chewed it up and got all the treee roots out of it with an axe. Hardest soil I have ever tilled but the little fellow did a good job in that hard, red clay. I folded it up and put it in the back of my CRV with a full tank of gas. It burned most of the tank. It started on the first pull after sitting out in the cold for two days. It is nothing like the 916 Husqvarna that I used to have but it is light and handy.. it also does a good job on small areas. I got her winter garden planted, yesterday.
I have the same one in my garage. just waiting for me to check it out. Thanks for the video. I need
This was really helpful. I have an old Mantis I haven't been able to use for years because of carpal tunnel syndrome. Now that I've had the release surgeries I'm getting the garden back in order and when I pulled out the Mantis, the bulb was cracked. This helps understand how to take everything apart, replace the parts, put it back together, and adjust the engine. Thumbs up!
I can't believe someone would throw one of these away. Those Kioritz engines are extremely reliable and the Mantis tiller Is probably the best one I've ever owned. I've owned 2, one I gave to my brother. Is it worth saving ? YES. Great video, I enjoyed watching it.
Long time Mantis user - you need to make sure the tines are easily removable. If put away for the season with vegetation in the tines the vegetation attracts moisture and the tines will rust weld in place. So, remove, sand the shaft and lightly grease.
I certainly recommend that any user wear some stout boots. Even toe-tectors.
There is a trick to using these, weedwhacker off the tops of weeds and the tines won't get choked full nearly as often! Good working machine. Thanks for your videos.
Long grass will really load up the tines. I just pull the times off and remove the grass. Roots are a little bit harder to get off but they come off easier with the tunes off. They make a set of weed preventers that fit on the hub side of the tines that are supposed to prevent weeds from getting between the tines and the transmission. I am going to get a set for my Mantis and if they work ok I will get a set for my daughters new Mantis.😊
Excellent little machine. That will command a few bucks for sure. Glad it was an easy fix.
They are good little machines,,I have several, lots of accessories for them also
Used they go for about $50. They're pretty expensive to buy new though.
I’ve had the same Mantis for years. I use True Fuel 50/1 gas. I have a 20x20 garden in New Mexico with a lot of clay in the soil. I always run it out of gas when done and it’s ready for the next year with 1-2=pulls to start.
For cultivating you switch the tines around.
People laugh at it when they see it but it’s one hard working tiller..
I was really surprised. It worked vary well for its size.
Bought my Mantis back in 2003 when I was living in NJ. It's now 2022 and I've been living in Georgia since 2005. Gone through 2 Amazon carb kits since '03 and it's still going strong. It's a powerful little bugger that always surprises people when they see it in action. Just be sure to run all the gas out of it before storing for winter or it'll gum up when you go to start it in the spring.
Never had a Mantis, but I use Premium, non ethanol fuel in everything I own two cycle. I never have a carb problem. I do run my two cycle stuff empty at the end of the year if they are going into storage condition. I like Echo Red Armor or Power Blend Gold two cycle oil at 50:1 with a good stabilizer in the gas. I just got back from Marietta turning my youngest daughters garden with my little Troy Built cultivator. It is four cycle, so I treat it like a lawn mower. Never turned over such hard clay soil in my life. It hopped like a rabbit until I got all the roots cut out with an axe. We planted some cold vegetables, yesterday. You have lots of help with grand children helping you. 🤪
I serviced one of those Mantis tillers back in the Spring, but it had a tiny Honda 4 cycle engine with primer/purge bulb on the carb. So it obviously required an oil change too, but the thing ran great and was surely quieter than the 2 cycle version. From watching the HiPA videos it seems they pronounce it HighPa, but I too have had good luck using a variety of parts from HiPA. Keep em coming Jim! 👍
Gonna try one of their kit's
@@jeffclark2725 I have tried several Hipa kits and am very happy with them. They don’t just sell you a carb, you get fuel lines, filters, and all the necessary gaskets. I have a Mantis like this that will be getting a Hipa carb soon.
I have a mantis 2 stroke and only use trufuel in it and have had it almost 6 years now and never had a problem with it, I use trufuel for my echo blower as well and never any issues here in Northwestern Pa..
Great repair job. Those Mantis tillers sell for pretty good money and are just the thing for flower beds. Just need to pull off the tines and make sure they are not bent and straighten if necessary.
Ooooh lunch and a James Condon repair….. 🎉
Hey Jim, I got a Troy Built cultivator given to me a couple of months ago and I had to go through it from stem to stern. The hardest part was getting the tines off. I soaked them with PB and used a big three jaw puller to get them off. I wire wheeled the drive shaft and lathered up the shafts with copper based anti sieve. They will come off easy, now. Good luck, mine was abused to. It is a four cycle with two three tine cultivators. I planted my winter garden with it and am at my daughters to plant hers, tomorrow. Spinach, cabbage, radishes, carrots, kale and Brussels sprouts.
They are great little tillers
There IS a clutch in the Mantis, at least the ones I’ve worked on. Just an FYI. Another great video Jim!
Thanks. It had one, but was still grabbing the drum with some force at idle.
@@jcondon1 Possibly broken clutch return spring/s, or the clutch shoe pivot bushings may be seized, or both. Pretty common to see that on weed wackers etc and it probably has a very similar style clutch.
That was cool Hipa hooked you up. You have a pretty big following at this point, I am sure they will make their money back. I'd go through them.
From gen set,s to go kart,s to 2 cycle equipment you got it going on Mr condom
James, by the time you've fixed these tillers, ride on mowers and stuff, you'll have a garden fit for a Princess! Lol!!!
Great Job!
Wayne & Nina. ❤👍👍
Glad to be back !!!!
I have a craftsman mini tiller. That little thing is a beast. I use it to go between the rows of my strawberries. It took a little tweeking after I bought it but, only paid $ 40.00 for it. I have to replace the primer bulb and I think it should run good. Thanks for the video. Take care. Bob
When starting 2 strokes, full choke until it pops, then push the choke in and it should start on the next pull.
The wrong grease is better than no grease at all. Well done, James.
"Mixing of different greases can result in changes in physical and performance characteristics, leading to inferior properties of either of the original greases before mixing. Mixing incompatible greases often results in softening, but may also lead to hardening".
A great and quite simple resuscitation!
Nice work. I had a Mantis tiller and I absolutely loved it. It is a real workhorse for a small garden or yard.
Another fine job James. That little guy sure turns the soil !
Yep, it does have a clutch. It is in the four bolt housing below the engine.
I love those little tillers. I have the same one branded Echo, just de-thatched my lawn with it yesterday. That thing is a real trooper!
I find it easier to install the grommet, then the lines. Also, I think the white vent goes under the cover , just behind the throttle cable, right where the cover juts out. Good job.
I had to fight with a new grommet on an Earthquake one-human auger last month.
@@MazichMusic
If you have difficulty handling that one man auger....build a frame like that of a wheelbarrow with the augur able to pivot to the vertical in what would be the centre of the "barrow".
This gives you a wheel at the front for easy transport..
and two handles at the rear of the skeleton "barrow" to control the augur...
and those 2 handles also allow you to lift the augur out of the hole while it is still running....
leverage is a great thing.
Great job Sir...I bought a 4 stroke one some years ago...Great little 25 cc Honda on top...bulletproof....they said I can use it for a year and if I didn't like it they would take it back and give me a full refund...I don't know if they still have that offer...this is the kinda company that are confident in their product...🏴
Great video. I have the same Mantis tiller. It worked great but it has been sitting for years. I ordered the carb kit last week and am just waiting to do the rebuild. Glad I came across your video beforehand. This will really help.
Nice job James👍. Love those little Mantis' - amazing how much work they deliver for such a small machine.
The two stroke mantis tiller has a clutch system. Great rugged built mini tiller. I've had mine for 22 years from New. Keep the time shafts weed free and lubed.
Yeah, I love my Mantis, and you saw how the tines get easily clogged on long weeds. It's aggravating to have to pull that stuff out. Two strategies- mow and mulch the high stuff before tilling, and keep those tines as sharp as possible so that the tines will "cut" as well as till. Thanks, James..
Wow, I really needed this machine about 3 months ago!
Absolutely great job, it does have a clutch so at idle they shouldn't be moving. I really enjoy watching your videos and really enjoy how you do /fix things and how you explain everything, especially with generators. Please keep up your great work
Great job James. Why you don’t have more subscribers is beyond me. You are clear, to the point, know your stuff and don’t over do your videos like so many others. Always look forward to your content. If you ever tour in Canada I would love to sake your hand.
Thanks!
I agree, but he has enormous viewership!
@@jcondon1 additive on lawn mower make problem
The long form is holding him back. The videos are too long. There needs to be more fast forwarding or editing of repetitive and monotonous tasks. When a lot of people look and see the video will be at or over an hour, it’s like no way, I don’t have an hour to watch one video. Just my take. To watch one of his, I have to do a ton of FF all the time. I’m tired of seeing the same stuff over again. FF to the important points of where the problems lies with that particular machine etc.
I thought he was a Canadian living in the US. He talks Litres of fuel…
Nice job James. Thanks for sharing
Nice work fixing up that mini tiller James, a lot of the time it's a simple fix to bring thrown away equipment back to life!
It's always great to see you fix something other than a generator, though you are the best UA-camr on generators.
I KNEW you would clean it up and make it pretty. Lol. Another great video!
Hi James good job mate nice to have an easy fix and save it from the skip
Ah, That one is in nice shape for it's age James ..
The portion of the fuel line with the white cap (for venting) should be inserted vertically into the notch/bulge of the recoil housing. (Just above the carb between the fuel tank and carb).This will prevent dirt and debris from getting inside your tank. At 11:46 the throttle cable is shown in front of the notch/bulge on the recoil housing. Any way great video. Thanks for sharing
The little rotavators are great fun on the hardwood floor a mistake I won't make again
Well the housekeeper was complaining about a slippery floor surface in the kitchen and you said you would take care of it........😁
What a nice kit from Hipa! I'm hearing great things about this company. We just picked up one of these tillers from a friend who thought it needed a carb. It started right up and with a carb adjustment, I think it will be just fine for our 2 small herb beds out front. Thank you for sharing James, love to see these older pieces brought back into use!
I'v never seen one of those realy go bad even after years of abuse other then a good service as you have shown thanks once again
Nice Kit.
Price has gone down too. Think it was at $16 this morning!
I think you need to tighten the handle bolts on the engine. I see one looser than the other. I tightened mine, yesterday, when I put on a kickstand. You will need 7/16” on both the nut and the bolt. I also put new carriage bolts on my handles, where they bend. I got them a 1/2” longer and put locknuts on their ends, just like the latest Mantis tillers. I know because I put my daughter’s new Mantis 7924 for her last weekend. She loves her new MNTIS.
When I replaced the fuel grommet in my Mantis, I pulled the tank off. It made replacing the grommet and fuel lines a lot easier. I had to replace the fuel tank because it had several holes in it when I got it. I also put a little Dawn on the grommet before inserting it in the tank. Soap is better than oil on rubber because oil can deteriorate rubber. I keep a spray bottle of Dawn and water handy for such things, as well as pressure testing engines with my Mighty Vac. It takes several days running to get new carbs running at their optimal conditions,because carburator diaphragms take a while to loosen up and pump correctly.
Lots of the Mantis Tillers found their way to the garbage can after the spark arrest screen plugged with carbon --
The vent has a spot in the little round spot under the recoil, tucks up nicely
The one dangling from the fuel tank
Nice little machine!! Easy fix!!
It's a shame how fast things are thrown away because of the lack of knowledge on how to maintain and repair them new carb and she running like a champ the little mantis tiller that could @James Condon
Some people don’t have the tools or the want to try and mess with stuff. That’s how I got a free toro and Honda mower and Honda tiller.
@@FishFind3000 most of the times it's not the lack of tools it's the lack of knowledge but you have a valid point
@@AntonioClaudioMichael Its a throw away society and most people aren't interested in learning how to repair things. Thats why Americans have the highest debt than anyone in the world. Things are changing and those of us that can repair things will become quite valuable very soon. Cheers!
@@giggiddy very good points I agree
Thank you, for putting up this video. I have a couple of these bought at yard sales, with the fuel lines rotted off, etc., and suspect new hoses and carb kit would be an easy fix? We'll see. I enjoy your videos. I don't know anything about generators, but learning some from you. I've got one old small one to get going. I mostly buy stuff up, and fix when I get a round to it. I'm in a couple antique tractor and engine clubs. Thanks again.
I had a yard machines lawn mower. It was given to me for free, because the engthad a bad camshaft and blown head gasket. I got it running after throwing some oil in it, and replacing those parts, and it started right up.❤
MINE LIKE YOURS IS ALSO MISSING THE KICK STAND. Thanks, for making the video. PS. It really doesn't like huge root balls and/or rocks.
Thanks for the vid James.
HI James, love your vids!!! FYI, the tank vent goes up in the starter cover, where that hump sticks out on the side.
I have this exact same unit. Replacement carbs are cheap and what fully fixed mine. These things are great little machines.
Me….don’t spend hours watching James repair stuff. Y-Tube feed….Fixing a Mantis. An hour later….dang-it. 👍
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Another great master class my friend thank you
I have a Mantis and it's a beast. It doesn't surprise me that it did so well after the carb change, and it certainly doesn't surprise me with the performance. I have abused mine for many years, and it starts right up at the beginning of the season with 1 or 2 pulls. I wish all small engines performed like the Mantis
Although Mantis calls it a tiller, it's actually a cultivator which is meant to mix up soil that is already broken up. A tiller breaks up soil that never been worked before, so it has larger, beefier tines. Never doubted you would get it running. Keep up the great work!
Put the tines on one way it tills
Turn 'em around it cultivates
Mine is 20+years old and is a little workhorse
@@joethanks3745 nice!
Thank you so much. I learned a lot. I have the same mantis and love it.
Yes it did help sometime a little maintenance instead of putting it on the curb or giving it away. Great job as always enjoyed the video.
“You can’t mess it up”.
Hold my beer!
I have this exact same tiller and the carb on it is trashed and barely runs. I got it to sort of run enough to do the garden. I bought one of these clone kits off amazon and used it to fix another mantis tiller. These do not come pre-tuned, I had to tune it myself to get it to run right and I did. I'll have to order up another one of those carb kits for my mantis. Won't be needing it as summer is over and the garden has already been winterized but there's next spring.
EDIT: 21:30 The tines on my tiller spun too when I was adjusting the carb and idle speed but they stopped when I put a screwdriver on them. They barely had any force when idling and when you put the tiller on the ground when idling the tines stopped but when you revved it up it dug into the ground.
Really liked this episode - more like this please! Still love the generator videos of course. Thanks for making them. Dave
Its always good to do it twice
HiPa is a great resource for everyday small engine parts. Not a bad quality for Chinese parts
Nice easy one for a change, James. 'A-tiller-she done'🤣👍🇦🇺
good work!
Good call. Getting the right aftermarket carb can be tricky since they make a lot of "one size fits all", but when you get the right one the aftermarket 2 stroke carbs are usually pretty reliable and they are so cheap it's almost never worth rebuilding one.
I am rebuilding a troybilt weed eater/ tiller and ordered a new carb from HiPi for it. Good news to know you like them. I was not sure when I ordered it. Love your videos.
Nice job! I own of these beauts and it’s great to see someone getting them to run correctly.
It's a gamer changer doing garden beds. I turn a bed with a shovel then use the Mantis to chop it up into fines. Straight rake it and it's like a pool table then.
Great for smaller jobs, I have one and use it often.
I only break mine out in the spring to prepare my garden beds.
Great little tillers. I have one that hasn't ran in 3 years just haven't been able to get the time to look at it
Awesome job the only thing i would say is its needs leaned out about a 1/2 turn more on the high needle so it can actually reach that powerband on the high end
Don't adjust the idle with the low side jet. Turn the low side in until the highest RPM is achieved and then back it out slightly so it's not at full lean, then adjust the idle screw to lower the RPM.