Everything Wrong With Jigsaw in 20 Minutes or Less
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2023
- I have no idea which movie in the Saw franchise Jigsaw is. I'm pretty sure it's not the one with Chris Rock. But it's sinful as hell!
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Remember, no movie is without sin. Which movie's sins should we count next?
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Sometimes this is better then watching the movie
Many times it is better
Very true
😹Yeah definitely cinema sins and that pitch meeting channel
Mhm
Not sometimes. Everytime!
This movie really makes you appreciate the effort other Saw movies put in to make it seem plausible that John knows what he knows.
It would be interesting to see a reboot that consults an actual engineer and group of writers to look for inconsistency and issues.
The only way John could know what he knows is by being omniscient.
@@GeorgeMonetor if every single person he's tested went to his wife's rehab clinic for an alcohol problem and spilled the beans while drunk
Somehow I doubt that even more
"Except for this typo!" is one of the best sins of all time.
They were SO CLOSE!
Makes the movie ALMOST unwatchable thanks to that damn typo... LOL
You know they wrote all that out just to please this channel and still got a sin for it
is he pointing at "stuck"? is it not right? english is not my first language sorry imj just very confused
I will never understand how a franchise about a killer obsessed with rehabilitation fails to ever acknowledge the % of rare survivors of these “games” somehow end up involved in Jigsaw’s murdering schemes. Feels like an opportunity for meta commentary. But bc they don’t, it makes me think they don’t even see the irony. There’s only really been one over reference to this when the lady asks what she’s supposed to learn from being an amputee but jigsaw is better at producing monsters than rehabilitated people.
I think it was referenced in some deleted scenes from saw 3, where john thinks he'll only be remembered for being a monster. Amanda says something similar in the movie.
I think they know but execs think audiences wouldn't like a meta commentary movie because they think it wouldn't do well profitably, maybe because of the comparisons to Scream. They want a tried and true method where the franchise sells enough by doing the same thing over and over again.
It is because of how totally impossible it is that any of this is even happening and how hard they keep trying to tie this back to John despite how totally impossible that is. The guy died like 6 weeks after being diagnosed with cancer and then trying to kill himself but according to the logic of all these movies put together he would have had to lived for 10 years after being diagnosed with cancer.
Jigsaw isn't really sane. He's a nutjob serial killer. He just rationalizes the killings to himself, painting himself as the hero of his own story.
@@Britishhick What
I love how the entire franchise of people enduring excruciating, incredibly traumatizing mutilations and/or death came from "My doctor wasn't very nice to me" 🤣
Only this entry, the others was: "a-hole assaults my wife and she miscarried, I suck at self unaliving, now I am the Hand of God!"
Nah, it was because John Kramer got cancer, and was angry that people weren't taking their lives seriously and wasting it. He only truly learned how to appreciate life when he found out it was ending, so in his messed up mind, he thinks that by putting people in situations they might die that if they have the will to live and survive they'll appreciate life more. Has nothing to do with his doctor, especially since it's been reconned many times that the Doctor wasn't his first victim. In fact, he had many victims before the doctor.
@@dragonmaster613 Don't forget the : My insurance provider denied me treatment.
But that one was legit. Those guys are evil ^^
You miss the point.
@@Tyranastraszaif you think they were evil wait until X if you haven't seen it
I think Hollywood is trying to normalize manslaughter after watching that movie.
I always presumed that John's brain tumor gave him psychic powers like John Travolta in Phenomenon. Making the Saw series all sequels to that movie.
Insider baseball here, the film was directed by two people with two different mandates from the studio. One was making a PG13 film the other was making a saw film. I was doing some blood rigs and I’d have one director saying “not too much blood” and the other saying “this is Saw! There can never be too much blood!”
“I’m sure you’re wondering why you’re all here”… “Because despite diminishing box office returns horror sequels are still insanely popular”? That shit got me 😂😂
Same lmao
Everyone why are u going to see Saw X
me: I’m a fan of the franchise
I disagree about the saw doll not being creepy anymore. If I saw that doll in real life I’d be creeped out everytime.
The dumbest thing of all about that puppet is John Kramer originally made that for his unborn child. Real genius, that John.
@@JamestheXennialI mean, child wouldn't be trapped in some cruel deadly contraption
@@MrDarkSidius Not the point. You would give that doll, which looks like a reject Cabbage Patch doll from the Silent Hill Otherworld, to an infant???
@@JamestheXennial in first movies doll looks just like a regular vintage doll, it's later they started make it appearance more demonic. Most creepy factor comes from place and reason why this doll appears. There is real vintage dolls that was really popular, but now considered creepy, mostly because horror movies
Agreed
Well to be fair, the movie does show Mitch stepping over what I believe is brake fluid to hide it from the nephew, although that still doesn’t explain how John knew that since he wasn’t there 😂
John knows everything
He is a engineer. He probably checked the bike himself and saw the breaks were faulty.
@@Stephanie-cl4fu After that crash, a lot more than the brakes would be faulty. It's more likely he saw the footprint in the brake fluid later and figured it out.
If you have a brisket cooking you have several hours to wait for a dramatic build up 😂
“Also, I guess Mitch will use this valuable time to grab the break and save himself right?”
He doesn’t…
“Oh well”.
Why am I laughing so hard at that! 😂😂😂😂
Every time Cinema sins makes one of these I go to the wiki and read the plot of all the Saw movies to understand the timeline without having to actually see the movies
Most of them are damn good. You can skip 5 until the end
I do the same.
“Also, from the book of also” is one of your best work, Jeremy 😂👌🏻👌🏻
Lmfao the barista thing is so true. Like he was so petty over the sticker switch but didn’t realize it was petty until he already got cut up. Like it had to take you months to get the traps set up to think about it. ALSO if Logan was supposed to be an apprentice to Jigsaw but John didn’t realize until Logan didn’t wake up from his trap then when was Logan supposed to die if he had woken up? He had no tape. Did John just frantically start running around the barn taking tapes back and resetting traps?
I can imagine the rest of the people are progressing and he quickly closes their door back
"NOT YET! It's not finished!"
@@zooli9 I had the thought that the “not an exit” door was supposed to be Logan’s but he just spray painted over it to keep them out 😂
The only thing I could think of was maybe it was one he had been on the fence for a long time about killing that person and since it was early in his killing career he had a last second change of heart when it was about to happen. But yeah it does seem to be against his personality we've seen up to this point.
This franchise really went overboard with the number of apprentices John had and all the time jumping really emphasizes that they know they dropped the ball killing John off.
Also admittedly hilarious they brought Cary Elwes back for one movie when the lawsuit was wrapped up just to never mention his character again at any point in the next 3 sequels.
You should add ...Yelling out hello in a horror movie cliche.
john cramer was a great visionary of our time. he could predict everything
Jigsawdamus
The laser thing bothered me because it's so tiny compared to real life, you can't see the beam in real life, it vaporizes the steam in the body so it bloats up rather than slicing cleanly like a blade. They also have a shallow focal plane so you would have to have it very close to the surface and it would need a computer telling it to change the focus and go deeper.
Invisible (IR) lasers don't make for a good visual effect, and most movie fans are well-acquainted with the fictional idea of deadly visible spectrum lasers that cut like light sabers. Sometimes producers have to make decisions in order to tell a story. I'm fine with this one. Although the rest of the movie was shit. lol
@@Ryan_Thompson it does create world building issues though. The fact that these exist in this universe in such a small size and cheap enough that he can afford multiple means they would almost definitely have been used as a weapon at some point even if it's only a foot long range, it's deadlier and more concealed than a knife. She was using it as a trivial cutting instrument.
Did i miss something? I thought the point was that the lasers WERE purely visual and it was to make halloran admit stuff?
@@SorrelYT I don't remember them even verbally acknowledging it. Not sure what you mean. Even if it were a blowtorch, it would still need a power source bigger than a pen light.
@@jacobstaten2366 They never showed the laser collar killing halloran, they DID show it harmlessly doing laser pointer things on the other dude though.
Unless i missed something.
The point was to panic the detective into confessing... For reasons, but the lasers werent laser cutters. They were just blue pointer lasers.
The biggest sin is that the main game takes places 10 years prior and the movie implies it’s johns first game so in 2004 ish John somehow got flat screen HD tvs and billy LED lights for his game but once saw 1 comes around he goes to CRT. obviously it’s the movie trying to make it like it’s in the present day but once the twist wears off it makes no sense. It’s an anachronism
Like Cinemasins said, there's a decent movie hidden under all of the attempts to misdirect you. All of the attempts to create twists and reveals is what brings the movie down and makes the most plot holes.
You aren't supposed to know the game took place in the past so they set it up like the present, which makes no fking sense.
Every movie past the third is a series of massive plot holes and impossibilities.
Honestly the best theory I've heard is that the flatscreens are from Logan's game and are just put over the barn game
They shouldn’t have killed Jigsaw off. Big mistake
The iconic phrase of Saw/Jigsaw movies is “game over.” However, at the end of the movie, they don’t even say it. Instead, the main villain says, “I speak for the dead.” I was bored throughout watching the movie, and that one phrase made me mad.
Saw V, Spiral and Saw X didn’t have the game over phrase either, sooo….
That deserved 100 sins.
So glad you're getting caught up with the Saw movies 😀
This movie is decent stupid fun but only the first time you watch it, because you're just curious to see what convoluted mess they'll come up with to explain how Jigsaw is apparently still alive.
It's the sole reason to keep watching.
Once they explain it, the movie loses any rewatch value.
This movie is "Saw in Name Only." Absolutely nothing in the overriding plot of the movie necessitated having a Jigsaw game happening "concurrently." It was literally there SOLELY to trick the audience and had zero relevance to the plot at all.
And for the love of Christ, how did Logan: kidnap Edgar from a busy hospital, kill him (and cut a jigsaw piece out of him), haul the body to Kramer's grave site, dig that coffin up by himself, take Jigsaw's remains out, put Edgar's corpse inside, seal the coffin back up, fill all the dirt back into the burial plot, and take Kramer's remains away without ANYONE noticing? You would have to think with the public panicking like they are, that people would be visiting that grave site constantly just to see for themselves. It is beyond absurd how fast and loosely they play with time in these idiotic movies.
DO THE TERRIFIER!!! I love your channel btw, big fan 🤙🏼
One part I'm really confused by is that Logan used a sniper/marksman rifle to shoot the dude with the remote, and everyone else was shooting him with pistols. Yet somehow this never came up? I am pretty sure that both entry and exit wounds from a rifle would look very different from a pistol, and additionally, what are the chances of the bullet staying inside of the body rather than just piercing him?
Also shot from a different angle but hey, don't think too much.. ;)
15:21 "And 'Logan's Run' of luck..." I saw what you did there.
I love that y’all have picked this series back up. Does that mean we’ll see a Saw X sin video in the future 👀
I'm really looking forward to the Saw X sins. It was a good time despite the questionable pacing.
I see your 'no way to guarantee Carly would be injected with acid' and raise you 'All of them had acid'
Also if Kramer was close enough to see Carly rob and leave that woman, why didn't HE try to help?
As a landscaper I could confidently pick that tape player up with a hard rake and tat shovel is not breaking that board, at least not anywhere near that easily.
Love the content per usual 😂
HAHA Loved this one. yeah a lot of it was totally contingent on people surviving till the "right " trap or somehow knowing where/how to find specific things they would have no idea and that's the kind of things that pull me out of the immersion of a film.
0:58 hope your brisket is good
Sin 107: Jigsaw II is still on hold to this very day.
I’m glad Saw X was so great. Really bought this series back to life because mannnn most of the movies after saw 3 are so hit or miss
Two weeks in a row this channel sins Saw
no sin off for the demogorgin like head split? That was awsome!
0:11 i always thought that that was supposed to be the lionsgate intro thing not a trap.
You need to do Atlantis The Lost Empire 😂
Also he swapped in a whole un spent bullet not just the fired part of it. 1000000 sins alone
Already? You're supposed to do an Exorcist movie.
How did you comment 14 hrs ago?
@@Braind3dfart could go private before a wider release
@@Braind3dfart Patreon release gets it a few hours ahead of time.
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Your channel makes me think back to all these movies and go OH wow I didn’t realize that.
Been waiting years for this one!! LET’S GOOOOOOOO!
0:58 It doesn't look like a paint bucket though, not a modern one anyway. It's flared, like a truncated cone shape, with added corrugation for strength, while paint buckets are usually cylindrical and uniform. And paint buckets have a rolled lip for you to hammer the lid back on, maybe except for some really old vintage ones. These just look like regular metal pails used in construction and around the house. It seems much more likely that the pail was flipped upside down and used as a platform for a proper paint bucket so the painter didn't have to bend over as far to dip their brush (or roller, assuming they don't have a roller tray). Of course, that would be a lot of spillage for it to run all the way down the paint bucket and onto the upside-down pail underneath. But my point is that it would be equally strange for someone to take paint out of a paint bucket and pour it into a (potentially dirty) generic metal pail like that.
I think what he meant by paint bucket was that there was paint on the bucket. not that it was actually a bucket meant to hold paint.
"You Flipped me off in traffic while going down Intersatte 10... I was so upset that i spilled my coffee on my $50 pants, thats why your in the death trap"
'We learn the one thing we will ever know about Jigsaw. He's omniscient.'
- Confused Matthew
John has pissed me off but this movie pissed me off to the highest level of pisstivity because in all of the other movies he told his accomplices to not make it personal but Mitch being in the game was super personal… he’s such a hypocrite in these damn movies
8:08 "Hey, that's Clevelandist!" Sin added. "Also, Cleveland." Sin added.
Honestly, the jokes write themselves.
I remember this movie being a complete mess with the traps & game, glad to know I remembered right.
The scariest thing about the saw movies to me is that jigsaw looks like my grandfather.
You missed the sin that Mitch could have swung himself before being lowered into the spinning blade thing.
It is 5am here and this is a fantastic start to the day hahaha 🎉😂
Thanks for Jigsaw, and can you do Spiral next week?
Some of these movies are so frustrating, thank God we have cinemasins to make them more enjoyable.
Thank you for uploading this!
What I don't understand is, what if one of the people in the puzzle is a genuine psychopath. Like, the key is inside the other victim and they are like "Sure, I have a biological condition that prevents me from feeling empathy, so where's the knife."
Have you SEEN Saw 2?
Amanda
That swedish girl from Saw X
Xavier Chavez. From Saw 2. Amanda Young. From Saw 3.
Mark Hoffman. From Saw 5-3D. The list goes on, and on, and on.
Ok, the bucket drips is a top tier observation. How did you even catch that?
Also, it makes me think of a cake
So we gonna ignore the fact that Logan straight up decimated my boy Kramer's grave? What happened to his corpse
“We can never come from anger, or vengeance, you taught me that.” was such a good quote 🎉
Yet all of johns games are from anger or vengeance and are personal vendettas
But every single one of these deathtraps comes from anger and vengeance and jealousy.
I like the grimace goo edited in place of blood. It adds some pizzaz to the movie 😂
Awesome Video Bro!
Surfs up cinema sin video? I love the movie, but y’all always catch the shit i missed, thanks 🙏🏾
I saw this movie back in the day, and I gotta be honest I don't remember shit except the laser trap at the end
The worst death of a "player" who didnt deserve it was the black dude who hit the kid with his car. He didnt run, there was no malace in it. He had all of his limbs and head twisted until they broke.
The whole fixed horizontal saw reminds me of when I was in school. We worked on some wooden parts for a project, and one of my group mates managed to drill a hole through the wooden block diagonally. With a drill that requires you to fixate the part you want to drill into on a flat surface. To this day I have no idea how drilling at that angle was physically possible but oh well
I went to see this when it came out and I've been waiting for this since can't wait until the very last movie lol
Jeremy I’ve never been this early I love your vids so much❤❤
YEEEEEEES YOU CONTINUED!!!!!!
OK, the Kelly Clarkson scream at 20:42 was hilarious lol.
Thank you for this!
It always annoyed me how they can see literal daylight through the fence, yet don't attempt to destroy it. They could break through the wood relatively easily and escape (provided no pigs kidnap them again).
"Except for this typo!" Best. Sin. Ever. 😂
Biggest sin is this movie using the “this person was working with Jigsaw” twist for 4th fucking time. And second movie in a row to do it. I realize Jigsaw was released 7 years after Saw 3D but I stand by my point that the hidden apprentice twist is so tired and needs to die.
Also 3:50 got me good
so goddamn funny, i enjoy these videos so much
bro keep it up you are good
Now just Spiral and Saw X!! (Which comes out tomorrow on digital!)
This show is how I watch movies bc u do a great job eliminating the non sense kp up the great work still waiting for all about the Benjamin with ice cube and honeymooner's with Mike Epps plz sir appreciate it
You should watch Th3Birdman
Great video
I’ve seen that doll on a shelf in a antique store and I asked the owner why he had a saw doll and he looked at the doll smiled and said do you want to play a game😂 I ran faster than I thought was possible that day and I will never go back to that antique store again 😂 years later I still get freaked out by driving past it
Did you want to play a game?
@@GeorgeMonet what’s your favorite scary movie?
Well ,well ,well...Jeremy gave us 21 minutes . The Sin counter will definitely it's 💰 worth off of this 🍿🎥.
About the top of the head not being in the bucket, wouldn’t the bucket have blocked the saws and stopped them from doing damadge to the head?
I'm thinking the blade would have sliced through the bucket and the victim's head. But the bucket is completely intact, so yeah that doesn't make sense either. That bothered me when I watched it, and I thought "If the victim's head it sliced in half, why is the bucket intact?"
Still waiting for you to do Scream 6!
And also Spiral 🌀 From the Book of Saw and also Saw X too bro and also these two other franchises and he just needs to do two of them one of them is Underworld 5 Blood Wars (2017) and also Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City (2021) Reboot too bro 😎
thanks for doing this
11:59 That’s the same three side stories from that one newspaper front page back in Saw IV. So in ten years’ time, the wedding was cancelled and uncancelled all over again, the bay spewed out major discoveries in decade-long intervals, and that damn lair still isn’t answering questions!
I remember YEARS ago i was hoping you’d sin all the Saw movies. Middle school me is thriving rn🙏🙏
J: If one of the victims that I had specifically planned this monologue for ends up dying before they get to this point, please flip the tape to side B.
It's about time, imagine the sins with the characters specifically
Thank god u did all the rest of these idk if u will do it but the spiral movie is part of it to if u wanted to do that please and thank u 🫡
Saw this movie for free. Overpriced
Why does this comment not have more likes 🤣😂🤣🤣 I saw this bullshit in theaters same with Spiral and I was pissed. I'm glad Saw X was good. Fool me once shame on me fool me twice shame on you fool me 3 times go fuxk yourself(3rd time was a charm so they got lucky it was a success)
Seriously hearing cinemasins rip this movie apart is more entertaining than watching the movie
I know its your job to criticize but the rakes actually a really good tool in this situation. 6:25ish
Yesssss it's here!!!
Hearing the Knights who Say Ni at the end makes me crave a Monty Python sin count!
56 went crazy 😂
good day for cinemasins
Aaaand this is why I hated this and Spiral. Both movies misunderstood several elements, how Jigsaw never took trophies, that John wasn't a better person as Zep, or that John had a plan to punish Amanda and Hoffmann. Spiral leaned into a Hoffmann-like killer as a successor.
‘Spiral’ is definitely not a masterpiece. Chris Rock was not meant for the role. The traps did not look like they were meant to be escaped. It drifted so far away from the basis of the games.
this guy wasn't chosen to be
JOHN'S REPLACEMENT
he just took over as
JIGSAW
Mandela Van Peebles who plays Mitch is a cutie.
My theory: John knows Hannibal Lector, who was the psychiatrist for every victim and each one of them confessed their sins directly to him.
Lol honestly this whole sinning is hysterical