I have been told to drive the butt of the clubhead into the ground so many times, and it causes an over the top swing. Thanks for shedding light on how the hands come out and shallow the club. Great video!
Jon does such a great job of explaining complex concepts in an easy-to-understand manner. This video helps me understand my swing, and not only that, I loved to see the ducks flying past! What a great looking course.
Awesome! That is the BEST explanation of the golf swing hand path I’ve seen. Graphics are nicely done. I suffer greatly with the hands-away-shaft-inside start to my golf swing but most instructors focus on my clubhead position when my hands position is a much better indicator of my swing fault. Thank you for this. Brilliant.
Best instruction video ever in the history of golf. Makes perfect sense. Focusing on the hands instead of the club head. Thanks a million for this advice.
+MARTY EDDLEMAN Wow thanks Marty for such kind comments. I’m glad it makes sense to you, many feel its to technical but definitely an area that needs explaining on the differences between hand and club path. Many thanks, jon
Just literally learned this yesterday on the range (been playing for 25+ years). Was working on swing plane with alignment stick as a guide, and noticed how it felt really weird that my hands were working away from my body, part-way intto the down swing. Been chunking the ball for years. Wish I had seen this 5 years ago when it was posted. But at least it confirmed that I'm on the right track, even though it feels weird.
@@TruGolfAcademy For sure! I'll be sure to subscribe, and check out more of your instructive videos...and see what else I've been doing wrong for 25 years :)
I've been struggling with hosel hits and couldn't seem to hit anywhere but near the hosel. I could see that my hands were too high at impact but until your video had no success in correcting it. Thanks for another great explanation.
I was struggling with keeping the club on plane going back...I tried everything thinking maybe I didn't have enough lead arm rotation. I've seen other similar videos but none explained as well as this. After watching, I instantly was on plane going back and keeping the club in front of my hands. Thanks!
Thanks, Had to get a second job, I broke out FIVE windows so far trying this move - the good thing about it 2 years later I am making progress... I figure by the time I'm dead I have it down.
Hi Jon that is exactly what I am trying to do for my takeaway not to have the wrist and hands too active causing the club head go behind and inside early in the swing without the body turning. My swing thought is keeping the clubhead tracking or covering the ball in the takeaway all the way till parallel, and use more body turn and keep wrist, hands or even arms very passive. For the downswing my swing thought is aiming the butt end towards the ball.
@6.27 very good. My hand path extends and I have to stand up through the ball. This is one true cause of early extention. I have long susppected it is just the swing intent that is wrong.
Really excited to try this swallowing move from the top. What's interesting and a little confusing is when the hands get to last parallel with the move you described it seems like it would cause a cut shot with the grip moving to the left. I'm wondering if this is why I hit so many right-to-left shots/pulls because I'm trying release the grip straight, parallel to the target line, once the club is at last parallel🤔?
Now that I think about it once I get to last parallel the vision I have is the grip moving slightly in to out to produce a straight shot. Looks like I've had a bad concept
Liked this video a lot. Tried this takeaway and then came down imaginary wall for shallowing. Seemed to work, interested to hear what you think. Thanks.
Great content. Is the hand path on the backswing (coming in closer to the body) achieved by literally pulling the hands in to start the swing or generated by the shoulder turn. I continually struggle on a consistent start to the backswing so would be great to get this start simplified. Thanks, Kevin
+KEVIN HILL Thanks Kevin. It’s definitely not the Hands pulling I , just the chest turning away from the target. The club will naturally arc! Many just over use wrist hinge or force the hands in or out. Do some connection drills, club into your belly button or towel across your chest to help the feeling
Hi, thank you so much for your sharing. Your videos are always so good. love it all. Could you please share with us the skill to hit 3wood and the ready position of the shaft of 3wood and driver. As I know the shaft of ready position of iron (square the club face), wood and drive (club face open )are difference. Your Hong Kong follower. Thank you.
Great video. Do you have a vid on making pure and solid ball contact? And where do your eye aim at on a downswing? Front of the ball? Top of the ball? Or behind the ball?
+Albany Fx Many thanks. Yes type in TruGolf Academy Impact in the search box. I have done a vary few on striking, compressing etc. I wouldn’t worry to much where your eyes focus, as it’s over too quickly to tell. The only benefit of this is putting as there is less speed
Hi, thanks for the content, ive been working really hard on on my over the top/in path down swing, i seem to be making progress with the swing plane looking good but now hitting push shots/minor slice/fade, any advice? thanks
These are always difficult to interpret for individuals because we're all different. I hit the ball so much better when I FEEL that my hands are dropping to my hip. Of course, they don't really, it's just I was so used to having the hands too far out the FEEL of dropping hands to the hip gets me in a better position. If I felt my hands needed to move out at all I'd slice and shank all day.
Hi John, feel and real is definitely different. This is a video about the real, hands move a little out in front of us as they drop. Many need to feel hands drop towards hips (I’ve filmed videos in this also) 👍🏻
I stumbled across this hand path thing while playing yesterday. I'd a had a bad front 9 (I've fought OTT for 30 years) and just decided to think 'hand path' and nothing else ~ my ball striking and accuracy improved massively. I spent years thinking this hands straight down thing was the right way to go to come from the inside, and I'm really glad to hear that its wrong, because I could never do it anyway. In my efforts to hit a draw, I am trying to KEEP the hands going out to the right of target though I gather this is not really right . . . . you're saying they should be moving in and up, which seems to me as if the club will then cut across the ball, which is the swing fault I am trying to eradicate.
Apologies for the delayed response. If trying to draw the path of the club should be going a little right into impact but still got to move up and left post impact (both hands and club) If neutral path, imagine hands on one circle and club on a bigger circle, both travelling on an arc into and post impact
Great video John! One question...is it the same for a driver especially at impact? I struggle with a lot of cut shots with the driver and when I try to correct it I over draw and hook it :(
+Allen Chu Many thanks 👍 Yea the same with the driver, the Hands may be a little further from body due to the arm position at set up, but defiantly working in and upas your body rotates. Let me know if you want me to take a look with an online lesson!?
Well you are encouraging a pull through with the hands with no "release at the bottom" it's not good for average players as they do not square and release the club properly and means they have to make alot of compensations to get the club head square at impact
Sorry I’ve only just seen your reply. I don’t suggest there’s no release of wrist angles. Please also remember there’s a difference between what a player needs to feel to what maybe reality. The amount of release as you put it would also be dependant on the clubface position at P6. I would prefer players to have a slightly strong face and rotate body more rather than open face a more clubface closure through impact.
This is completely inaccurate information...hand path is steep almost vertical early in downswing with club shallowing then hand path begins to shallow and club path steepens...this video is really bad
I have been told to drive the butt of the clubhead into the ground so many times, and it causes an over the top swing. Thanks for shedding light on how the hands come out and shallow the club. Great video!
Thanks Brian, glad to help!
Jon does such a great job of explaining complex concepts in an easy-to-understand manner. This video helps me understand my swing, and not only that, I loved to see the ducks flying past! What a great looking course.
Thanks mate
Awesome! That is the BEST explanation of the golf swing hand path I’ve seen. Graphics are nicely done. I suffer greatly with the hands-away-shaft-inside start to my golf swing but most instructors focus on my clubhead position when my hands position is a much better indicator of my swing fault. Thank you for this. Brilliant.
Thank you for your kind comments! Very glad to hear you have found my video useful. Good luck with the changes 👍🏼
Best instruction video ever in the history of golf. Makes perfect sense. Focusing on the hands instead of the club head. Thanks a million for this advice.
+MARTY EDDLEMAN Wow thanks Marty for such kind comments. I’m glad it makes sense to you, many feel its to technical but definitely an area that needs explaining on the differences between hand and club path. Many thanks, jon
Read the book “Swing The Handle, Not The Clubhead” by Eddie Merlin’s. Written in 1973.
Just literally learned this yesterday on the range (been playing for 25+ years). Was working on swing plane with alignment stick as a guide, and noticed how it felt really weird that my hands were working away from my body, part-way intto the down swing. Been chunking the ball for years. Wish I had seen this 5 years ago when it was posted. But at least it confirmed that I'm on the right track, even though it feels weird.
Glad to have helped confirm Tom. Never to late to learn something new 👍🏻
@@TruGolfAcademy For sure! I'll be sure to subscribe, and check out more of your instructive videos...and see what else I've been doing wrong for 25 years :)
Wow great instruction on hand path ...If I ever get out to England I will ring you up for a couple of lessons. You are truly Amazing !!!
Thank you Richard. Hope to see you one day 👍🏻
Never get tired of watching your videos again and again..seems i understand more each time. Keep up the great service!!
Thank you so much, great to read comments like this!
I've been struggling with hosel hits and couldn't seem to hit anywhere but near the hosel. I could see that my hands were too high at impact but until your video had no success in correcting it. Thanks for another great explanation.
Great to hear Steven!
Good advice. In essence hands and body move TOGETHER DURING PIVOT AND ROTATION OF DOWNSWING.
Thanks Michael
I was struggling with keeping the club on plane going back...I tried everything thinking maybe I didn't have enough lead arm rotation. I've seen other similar videos but none explained as well as this. After watching, I instantly was on plane going back and keeping the club in front of my hands. Thanks!
Awesome to hear Nathan. Thanks for the message and keep up the good work
You just discribed my golf swing fault especially in the down swing.thanks for the great advice.
+Atchara Hicks Many thanks, good luck with the swing changes!
Thanks, Had to get a second job, I broke out FIVE windows so far trying this move - the good thing about it 2 years later I am making progress... I figure by the time I'm dead I have it down.
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Hi Jon that is exactly what I am trying to do for my takeaway not to have the wrist and hands too active causing the club head go behind and inside early in the swing without the body turning. My swing thought is keeping the clubhead tracking or covering the ball in the takeaway all the way till parallel, and use more body turn and keep wrist, hands or even arms very passive.
For the downswing my swing thought is aiming the butt end towards the ball.
+Andy Shum Sounds good Andy, keep up the good work! This video sounds very relevant to you!
love the malliards crossing in the background----beautiful course
We rehearsed that first 😂 it seemed like everyone wanted to get in the video!!
Outstanding info. A lot to take in, but covers fundamentals that many other instructors gloss over.
Many thanks, I realise a very technical area but as you say it’s a key part to understand.
@6.27 very good. My hand path extends and I have to stand up through the ball. This is one true cause of early extention. I have long susppected it is just the swing intent that is wrong.
Hope the video helped! Thanks for your comments
Good explanation of hand Path vs Club, eye opener for me!
👍 a tough area to focus but easier if First understood
It was an eye opener for me too. I think this is really important to a good swing. You did a great job explaining the concept of it all! Thank You!
Really excited to try this swallowing move from the top. What's interesting and a little confusing is when the hands get to last parallel with the move you described it seems like it would cause a cut shot with the grip moving to the left. I'm wondering if this is why I hit so many right-to-left shots/pulls because I'm trying release the grip straight, parallel to the target line, once the club is at last parallel🤔?
Now that I think about it once I get to last parallel the vision I have is the grip moving slightly in to out to produce a straight shot. Looks like I've had a bad concept
Yep the handle defines needs to move up and left for more neutral shots and a more consistent release. Hope it helps 👍🏻
Liked this video a lot. Tried this takeaway and then came down imaginary wall for shallowing. Seemed to work, interested to hear what you think. Thanks.
Great drill. Can use an actual wall with the club the wrong way around. Make sure you stay in posture by focusing on a ball!
Had the shanks and this video helped to diminish them as long as my hands finish where they were at address.
Glad to hear it’s helped 👍🏼
Great content. Is the hand path on the backswing (coming in closer to the body) achieved by literally pulling the hands in to start the swing or generated by the shoulder turn. I continually struggle on a consistent start to the backswing so would be great to get this start simplified. Thanks, Kevin
+KEVIN HILL Thanks Kevin. It’s definitely not the Hands pulling I , just the chest turning away from the target. The club will naturally arc! Many just over use wrist hinge or force the hands in or out.
Do some connection drills, club into your belly button or towel across your chest to help the feeling
Wow! Cool graphics!
Thank you
Hi, thank you so much for your sharing. Your videos are always so good. love it all. Could you please share with us the skill to hit 3wood and the ready position of the shaft of 3wood and driver. As I know the shaft of ready position of iron (square the club face), wood and drive (club face open )are difference. Your Hong Kong follower. Thank you.
+Packy Cheung Thanks for your comments. Do you mean your handle position compared to the clubhead when you talk about the ready position?
Great video. Do you have a vid on making pure and solid ball contact? And where do your eye aim at on a downswing? Front of the ball? Top of the ball? Or behind the ball?
+Albany Fx Many thanks. Yes type in TruGolf Academy Impact in the search box. I have done a vary few on striking, compressing etc.
I wouldn’t worry to much where your eyes focus, as it’s over too quickly to tell. The only benefit of this is putting as there is less speed
Great video
Is Leslie King the first to mention hand path?
Not sure!?
Hi, thanks for the content, ive been working really hard on on my over the top/in path down swing,
i seem to be making progress with the swing plane looking good but now hitting push shots/minor slice/fade, any advice? thanks
ps happy to upload my swing if you would like to take a look ;)
Hi Dave, would love to take a look, email me jon@trugolf.co.uk and I’ll send across info and a free app to upload your swings. Cheers
These are always difficult to interpret for individuals because we're all different. I hit the ball so much better when I FEEL that my hands are dropping to my hip. Of course, they don't really, it's just I was so used to having the hands too far out the FEEL of dropping hands to the hip gets me in a better position. If I felt my hands needed to move out at all I'd slice and shank all day.
Hi John, feel and real is definitely different. This is a video about the real, hands move a little out in front of us as they drop. Many need to feel hands drop towards hips (I’ve filmed videos in this also) 👍🏻
I stumbled across this hand path thing while playing yesterday. I'd a had a bad front 9 (I've fought OTT for 30 years) and just decided to think 'hand path' and nothing else ~ my ball striking and accuracy improved massively. I spent years thinking this hands straight down thing was the right way to go to come from the inside, and I'm really glad to hear that its wrong, because I could never do it anyway.
In my efforts to hit a draw, I am trying to KEEP the hands going out to the right of target though I gather this is not really right . . . . you're saying they should be moving in and up, which seems to me as if the club will then cut across the ball, which is the swing fault I am trying to eradicate.
Apologies for the delayed response. If trying to draw the path of the club should be going a little right into impact but still got to move up and left post impact (both hands and club)
If neutral path, imagine hands on one circle and club on a bigger circle, both travelling on an arc into and post impact
Great video John! One question...is it the same for a driver especially at impact? I struggle with a lot of cut shots with the driver and when I try to correct it I over draw and hook it :(
+Allen Chu Many thanks 👍 Yea the same with the driver, the Hands may be a little further from body due to the arm position at set up, but defiantly working in and upas your body rotates.
Let me know if you want me to take a look with an online lesson!?
TruGolf Academy Whoa! You would so that for me? Speechless. Thank You John!
I'm here for the squirrel and ducks.
😂😂
"Give it a go". I love it when the Brits say that. "Oie give it a go."
Brilliant lesson 👍🏼
"Close in the take away, but not in the downswing." Thank you. I have been working on this lately and it did confuse me.
Glad it helped Glenn!
Where you at wildlife refuge?
+Paul Malone 😂 A good crossing point between two ponds!
Squirrel!
+Robert Wise Picked up a fair bit of wildlife on camera 😂
total red pill
this downswing instruction is completely wrong
What to elaborate Andrew?
Well you are encouraging a pull through with the hands with no "release at the bottom" it's not good for average players as they do not square and release the club properly and means they have to make alot of compensations to get the club head square at impact
Sorry I’ve only just seen your reply. I don’t suggest there’s no release of wrist angles. Please also remember there’s a difference between what a player needs to feel to what maybe reality. The amount of release as you put it would also be dependant on the clubface position at P6. I would prefer players to have a slightly strong face and rotate body more rather than open face a more clubface closure through impact.
This is completely inaccurate information...hand path is steep almost vertical early in downswing with club shallowing then hand path begins to shallow and club path steepens...this video is really bad