I agree, this 28mm Elmarit is a marvel. This is the ideal lens for street or landscape photography. The DOF is better than a 35mm. In addition it is very compact. The large aperture is not necessary for me, the summilux is bigger, heavier and much more expensive. It's the cheapest of the 28mm at Leica, it's still affordable and will soon be part of my bag. With your talent you even proved to those who doubted it that we can also take excellent portraits with this lens.
Hi Matt. I truly enjoy your reviews. I recently picked up the new smaller version Voigtlander 28 mm f2.0 Ultron II (black paint). I’m in love! It sounds like this little Elmarit is pretty great too. I enjoy the f2.0 maximum aperture though as well.
Thanks for all the 28mm lens reviews. This Elmarit-M ASPH is the winner for me and that's final . When I pick up the M6 I bought in 2018, an as-new example waiting for me in Germany, I will swing by Leitz Park to get the 28mm and the new Summilux-M 1:1.4/35mm. I'm only a 90% "Leica Purist" because I bought the Zeiss Biogon ZM 1:4.5/21mm for distortion-free imaging on film. In my M3 outfit are the 35mm Summicron and Summaron lenses, both beautiful examples, with goggles of course. That completes the wide angle requirements... .. ohh, then there's the Super Angulon 28mm shift lens, now fitted with a Nikon F mount for use on the F3, D300 and F100. All done. .. maybe. 🤪
Thanks, yes the Elmarit is a nice lens for sure. I love the size. Agreed Biogon lenses have the edge. I have 21 & 25 ZM. Very good optics, average build. I like the Voigtlander SL lenses for F mount. Had me FE2 today but found it easier to focus IIIG.
I've watched this review 3 times and I think im finally going to buy this lens. I have the 28mm summicron, the latest version, but I find myself not picking it up because its on the heavier side... I think im going to see if I dig the elmarit and sell the summicron.
Beautiful photos made with this lens! Really nice work. This one is my favorite because it doesn't block the viewfinder like the 28mm f/2.0 on my M7. Thank you!
Thanks for the video Matt. The 28mm lens I will buy needs to be rectilinear. I will use it on Leica M and Sony A7rii. Yes, for street photography, but I need architecture to be rendered free of distortion. Then for photographing artwork, again to be free of distortion.
I’ve never compared lenses for distortion as it doesn’t matter for portraits. Leicas are normally pretty good but do some research to check. Modern lenses that use software to correct distortion like Sigma L mount might offer the best value. (Sony equivalent)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yep while always keeping an eye on alternatives, I have absolutely opted for this Leica Elmarit-M f2.8/28mm ASPH. It's a gem. Yes, you're a portrait guy, I know .. we all know! .. 😊 .. and a good one at that. 👌
Love the 28mm focal length, I've only just recently acquired mine after a long break from photography. Previously I had the 24 & 35 as my wides, but more by circumstance than design I've somehow landed on the 28MM Summilux. It's a lens that I feel I can just leave on my M111P. WIth the 35, I am probably always thinking about a lens change. and the 24 is a little more specialised. 28mm hits the sweet spot for me. With the 28, I'm more likely to change how I'm framing the image in order to accomodate the FOV. I'm only taking it off to go to the 75 APO... the 50 is a bit redundant really. If not for the 75mm, I feel like I'm shooting on a Q3... lol. Glad I didn't go down that path though. The additional options would have just complicated things The less buttons to press and menu options... the better!!!
What do you think about early version of elmarit 28mm f2.8? Like Canada one. I have a voightlander ultron 28mm f2. Is it worth to upgrade? Or any recommendations? My budget is under $1000
I'd get the v2 Ultron (see that video.. it beats the v1 Summicron 28mm easily). I sold my Leica f2. Not sure about the v1 Elmarit but probably similar to Cron.
I use this lens on a M262, mainly for travel photographie ; and I really like it. It's the total frame of the rangefinder and its size makes the combo body / lens very discreet. I hesitated to sold it and buy a second hand Leica Q. But at the end I think I'll keep it because shooting with a M or a Q is not the same pleasure for me. For all other purpose, I use with a 50 summilux (80% of my pictures).
Where did you buy your adapter for your Leica r mount lenses to digital SLR body at? I’ve bought a couple adapters and all of them don’t work or fit or not actually Leica R lens to x camera body. Last one was Urth’s Leica R lens adapter to Nikon F body mount and it was not even close.
I use the same elmarit-m 28mm asph with my M9 and it's super sharp. Fantastic lens. I recently purchased an XPro 2 with the 18mm f2. The Fuji is a great budget alternative, however the Leica M9 with the 28mm has something special.
Reserved a pre-owned 28mm Summicron (my current 35, 50 & 90mm are all Crons) in AB condition at my local Leica Store. Would you rather go for the new 28mm Elmarit new or Summicron used if size & weight wasn’t an issue? Thanks for your reviews Matt.
Hi Martin, I sold the Summicron 28 and replaced with the Voigtlander 28mm f2 v2. I still have the Elmarit for the size. If you don't need f2 get the Elmarit for sure of the 2 you are looking at.
The Leica Elmarit-M 28mm 2.8 Asph. and the Leica Macro-Elmar-M 90mm 4.0 are a perfect combo, though I would prefer a similar compact 24mm 3.4 Lens together with a Fullframe Camera with built-in EVF and no Rangefinder :)
Favorite 28 mm M-mount lens for me is the CV 28/2 Ultron for the best price/quality ratio. I looked for hours into new and older Leica 28 mm type lenses with the result that I all found them overpriced. The older Leica type 28 mm lenses have a lower image quality than the CV 28/2 and cost twice as much - also a no-go for me. So far the CV 28/2 does everything I need the lens for, and I am very happy with it. Btw, great videos this week, I wonder all the effort you put in here (lens/camera cost and time!). Amazing!
Martin's Analog Photo Channel Thanks Martin, yes value wise it’s great. Yes I think vs older Leica 28mm it’s similar. I only got the Summicron ASPH for that extra sharpness for weddings..but at the cost. Yes it takes a lot of time but hopefully the efforts will pay off in the long term! Happy people are liking them. I’m learning as I go!
I had this lens and loved it but had to sell it. Later I bought a Ricoh Gr1s compact film camera so I use that as my 28mm lens now, great camera quite different rendering to the Leica, much cooler.
Just bought the 28mm elmarit-R for an SL and CL, based on price. Have you had the chance to weigh the difference between the -M and -R versions (other than the rangefinder coupling of course).
Great! I have the 24R. R lenses are usually softer than M (and bigger) but you can focus closer with the wides and yes the price is much better. Softer isn't always bad.
The 28mm Summilux is probably the sharpest and best 28mm lens I've owned. The subject isolation for portraits is awesome. It also has quite a distinct rendering. Definitely my favourite 28mm, it's only the size and price that lets it down.
Dave Andrews Thanks Dave, if I was more of a 28mm/35mm shooter I would look at it but as you say it isn’t that cheap. I did test in London and it is great. (I have a 24mm f1.4 Nikon mount lens which I used to use for similar fun but it doesn’t have the same image quality!).
Have the same 28 Summilux... On the SL it's a dream. Now I'm using it on my M, it's difficult to compose through the rangefinder due to the lens hood which is taking a lot of view.
Another great video Matt! I've been thinking about expanding from my M-Rokkor 40mm for my Minolta CLE and buying the Elmarit-M 28mm ASPH for it's compact size and sharpness, over the Voigtlander for the same reasons you described. Thanks for sharing! Think I'll get the lens first for my CLE before I get a M4-P
jusren Biogon are amazing. See the 21 or 25mm video for a visual. I don’t have the 28 version but they have great micro contrast. Just bigger lenses vs Elmarit
One thing people don't realize about the Leica 28mm lenses is there's not much of a difference between them. The Lux, Cron and Elmarit all look just about the same in rendering. Which is not the case for most other focal lengths. The 35mm Lux and Cron are very different. The 50 Noct, Lux, Cron AND Cron APO all have different looks. The same is true at 24mm, 75mm.... But at 28mm... if you stop the Lux down to 2.8 you're not likely to find a difference between the Lux and Elmarit. So does it really make sense to spend the extra money? For some people, definitely. But I think there's a LOT of people who don't realize how amazing this lens is, and with today's ISO capabilities, there's not a huge difference between the Lux and Elmarit at 28mm.
Thanks! Great info. I actually have the 28mm Cron too but I bought for low light weddings not for the look. My M240 tops out at 1600 and bands at 3200. I love the Elmarit size, great lens. Many thanks!
Hi Matt I'm thinking of buying a Leica Elemart 28mm to go on my Leica M 10-P. Can you give me any things I should know about the camera before diving in?
Hi Paul, about the lens or the camera? I guess you mean the lens? Not much to say.. nice size, super sharp, you can use the M10 28mm framelines so it's a great combo. :)
Hi Matt, always a great pleasure to watch your videos. Did you try a Zeiss 28 biogon 2.8 against this elmarit? I always got very nice results with the Zeiss on both film and digital. Thanks
Thanks, yes I love the size and performance of the Elmarit though I do have a Summicron 28mm ASPH too that I bought for low light wedding work. I still need to share a video for that lens.
Hi Richard, RF lenses are not ideal on DSLR. (EF is DSLR?) If mirrorless body it’s better. I’ve not seen other Canon users doing this but it is possible I think. It’s not possible on Nikon F.
Thanks for the great review. What is your opinion in using this lens as a travel lens on either the SL2-S or the CL. I have the conversion ring that came with my CL.
Hi Robert, great camera combo! Yes this lens is perfect for travel and if the budget with cover it get the 90 Macro lens to pair with it (see video). If you want more help or Leica content you might like my Patreon!
The 28mm focal length is one that I have never gotten on with, I have even used some of those ‘legendary’ 28mm lenses that people rave about, and I just cannot do it. It is too wide for daily use, and no where near wide enough for my wide angle uses. But as always, good video Matt, look forward to the next one.
I actually use 50mmf2 on my Fuji XT1s for street photography, so like 75mm on a FF camera. That and the 23mm f2, so 35mm o a FF. Don't really like shooting too wide, like to focus more on my subjects than their surroundings
@@jimmason8502 Thanks, yes i'm a funny on.. if you see my portraits I go super close most the time to remove the background but on location sometimes I prefer a wider view, especially if non-model photos.
Hi Matt thanks for your review, I am considering this lens as well, but I am wondering which version should I get, and what do you about difference version about this lens
Hi Samuel, I got the ASPH version as I wanted the small size. I've not tried the other versions but i'm sure they are all great. (Currently I use a Elmarit-R 24mm f2.8 and love that too).
I already owned the Ultron 28 mm 2.0 before I got my M8 early 2009. It was my primary used lens on the M8. Compared to the Ultron 35 mm 1.7 asph (ltm that I use with a type II Voigtländer adapter) I found the 35 mm Ultron gave sharper results. Finally about 3 years ago I purchased the Leica Elmarit 28 mm 2.8 asph and that’s now my to go lens due it being small, light and sharp, but I still have the Ultron in case of lower light conditions with the M8. I also do not use the hood of the Elmarit mainly because I don’t like it.
do you have any experience on version 2 and 3 of the 28mm elmarits from the 1970's? i know their bigger but still seem attractive lenses to me at least.
Hi Stephen, sorry I don’t. I went straight for the smallest lens and didn’t check others in route ha. I imagine like most Leica lenses, the older ones will have more character.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom if the mood takes you google "gli obiettivi leitz elmarit" for a remarkably detailed review of version 2 1972-79 by italian marco cavina ,,the page will translate from italian. Just in case its of interest from a history point of view.
Hi Matt, how do you protect the front element, if you don't carry the hood? Do you use the Leica UV filter on the top? Or do you just carry it like that. Thanks
Awesome review I love the 28mm. I read your page before I found your channel, I love film photography and your reviews for medium format are very informative. I was looking deep in your flickr and I notice that you have or use to have the Nikkor 35mm 1.4, I would love to see a review of this lens there is no much info here in UA-cam about it. Specially explamples on black and white film, I love the contrast in your photos in film. Regards!
enmunfi Thanks I’m happy you found me the “blog route” as I only just added the video. Thanks for checking my work and yes I have a lot of medium format stuff waiting patiently but I don’t want to scare off all the Leica only fans so I’ll need to do it gradually I think! :). I’d love to share the 35/1.4 G Nikkor but that is one of the few lenses I sold. Lenses without aperture rings and manual controls scare me!! They feel very short term (even though I have a few others). I’m happier with metal and glass style lenses. It is an excellent lens, very sharp wide open but as G version it wont work on most Nikon film bodies. Of my 6 bodies I think only the F5 but I bought that after selling. Check the Tamron 45mm f1.8. I have it, very similar and amazing too. Similar to G design.
Sean Gao Amazing yes but I’m probably a 90% 50mm shooter so I have other FL such as 28mm just for those occasions. The Lux is amazing I did test it once in London! Background separation is lovely.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Personally I love to shoot ~50mm too (most often either 50 on FF or 40 on APS-C). I think the 28 Lux is more than background separation. It is unique in that it has both the angle of view (to draw the viewer in) and shallow DoF (creating a rather dreamy look wide-open).
Debating between this 28 or Voigtlander 28! It’s for my M8 and the occasional street plus travelling. The Leica seem like the obvious choice. Thanks Matt for sharing
Hi Bernard, the 28mm Elmarit has the edge BUT... as an M8 shooter I would suggest the Ultron to you as M8 users need that extra light! If you work in bright conditions then get the Elmarit. :)
Just sold my voigtlander Ultron for the ricoh 28mm ltm. Matt is probably right in that the Ultrons f2 is more useful, but I find the voigtlander lacks character
@@simonkimber1152 I hear the Ricoh is great too. I also have the Canon 28mm that I show in the Canoin LTM lens video. I love the size of that even if less sharp.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom will find out when I receive it. canon is tiny but perhaps a bit soft and lacks contrast....the problem is anything better than the voigtlander is a massive price jump
Currently I only have the Voigtländer, I need to get more used to it before steppig up to the Leica. Honestly Iam not even sure if with 28mm which involves a lot of saving, a Q used wouldn't make sense.
I have the same lens, just few dozens of SN from yours. It has vignetting and fringing, noticeable in bright days, but this can be fixed in edit. What I don't like about this lens is its lens hood. First - it is plastic, not really in line with the price, second - the lens cap on the hood is rubber/plastic and keeps falling off, even when stored in the bag. Still looking for a hood replacement for that, or maybe I will go like you do with no hood at all.
LOL You spend $2,000USD for a Leica lens that has vignetting and fringing that has to be fixed in editing? I have a $600 Fuji 16mm f2.8 that is perfect. So for $2,000 you'd think the Leica lens would be flawless. I keep hearing stories about expensive Leica gear that has drawbacks (bodies and lenses). Luxury priced junk?
@@jimmason8502 Thanks Jim, happy to hear you like your Fuji gear. I like character in a lens, something you get with Leica (and other lenses..especially vintage stuff). And no I don't correct for it. :)
@@jimmason8502 still I believe that this leica lens is smaller than the Fuji you mentioned. Plus it is full frame. I don't think you can get that fixed in edit. Personally speaking, in general, I don't like by-wire focus, so I would prefer a leica lens (or any other M lens by Zeiss for that matter) over other mirrorless lenses.
Thanks Daniel, yes I'm not a street man myself as you may know ifd you've seen my work but I find 28mm better than 35mm for a walkabout lens but actually 21mm in a city environment (or wedding).
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I agree, this 28mm Elmarit is a marvel. This is the ideal lens for street or landscape photography. The DOF is better than a 35mm. In addition it is very compact. The large aperture is not necessary for me, the summilux is bigger, heavier and much more expensive. It's the cheapest of the 28mm at Leica, it's still affordable and will soon be part of my bag. With your talent you even proved to those who doubted it that we can also take excellent portraits with this lens.
Thank you Hector! Yes I love the size and rendering. Definitely a lens to keep and yes fine for portraits too!
Always learning for me and a treat to view your work. Thank you!
Thanks Stephen!
just got my 28mm elmarit last week and loving it so far
Thanks Suraj, enjoy! Great lens! :)
Love this channel. Always thumbs up!
Thank you Seon!
Best reviewer here. Thanks for your effort and easy flow. Stay safe and enjoy life with photography.
Thank you! Much appreciated. More to come! :)
This is my go to 28mm and I love it,
Per Munther Thanks yes other than for some weddings where I’m using 28mm (Summicron) me too! Love the size and sharpness!
Hi Matt. I truly enjoy your reviews. I recently picked up the new smaller version Voigtlander 28 mm f2.0 Ultron II (black paint). I’m in love! It sounds like this little Elmarit is pretty great too. I enjoy the f2.0 maximum aperture though as well.
Thanks Daniel! Great lens, I have it (see that video for photos etc) Yes f2 is useful in low light for sure.
Thanks for all the 28mm lens reviews. This Elmarit-M ASPH is the winner for me and that's final . When I pick up the M6 I bought in 2018, an as-new example waiting for me in Germany, I will swing by Leitz Park to get the 28mm and the new Summilux-M 1:1.4/35mm.
I'm only a 90% "Leica Purist" because I bought the Zeiss Biogon ZM 1:4.5/21mm for distortion-free imaging on film. In my M3 outfit are the 35mm Summicron and Summaron lenses, both beautiful examples, with goggles of course. That completes the wide angle requirements...
.. ohh, then there's the Super Angulon 28mm shift lens, now fitted with a Nikon F mount for use on the F3, D300 and F100.
All done. .. maybe. 🤪
Thanks, yes the Elmarit is a nice lens for sure. I love the size. Agreed Biogon lenses have the edge. I have 21 & 25 ZM. Very good optics, average build. I like the Voigtlander SL lenses for F mount. Had me FE2 today but found it easier to focus IIIG.
I've watched this review 3 times and I think im finally going to buy this lens. I have the 28mm summicron, the latest version, but I find myself not picking it up because its on the heavier side... I think im going to see if I dig the elmarit and sell the summicron.
Great. Yes I sold my Summicron and still have the Elmarit. Consider the Ultron v2 also if you want even sharper (but more modern too).
Beautiful photos made with this lens! Really nice work. This one is my favorite because it doesn't block the viewfinder like the 28mm f/2.0 on my M7. Thank you!
Thanks Bob! Yes agreed I like the size when I don’t need the speed of the f2.
Thanks for the video Matt.
The 28mm lens I will buy needs to be rectilinear.
I will use it on Leica M and Sony A7rii.
Yes, for street photography, but I need architecture to be rendered free of distortion. Then for photographing artwork, again to be free of distortion.
I’ve never compared lenses for distortion as it doesn’t matter for portraits. Leicas are normally pretty good but do some research to check. Modern lenses that use software to correct distortion like Sigma L mount might offer the best value. (Sony equivalent)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yep while always keeping an eye on alternatives, I have absolutely opted for this Leica Elmarit-M f2.8/28mm ASPH. It's a gem.
Yes, you're a portrait guy, I know .. we all know! .. 😊
.. and a good one at that. 👌
@@kevin-parratt-artist Elmarit is great for travel & street. I kept mine for that.
I really enjoy your video’s very informative
Thanks Ronald! :) More of the same later today! (Daily video week)
28mm 2.8 elmarit is my everyday lens on my m6, taking it to tokyo in 3 hours.
Nice! Enjoy
Love the 28mm focal length, I've only just recently acquired mine after a long break from photography. Previously I had the 24 & 35 as my wides, but more by circumstance than design I've somehow landed on the 28MM Summilux. It's a lens that I feel I can just leave on my M111P. WIth the 35, I am probably always thinking about a lens change. and the 24 is a little more specialised. 28mm hits the sweet spot for me. With the 28, I'm more likely to change how I'm framing the image in order to accomodate the FOV. I'm only taking it off to go to the 75 APO... the 50 is a bit redundant really. If not for the 75mm, I feel like I'm shooting on a Q3... lol. Glad I didn't go down that path though. The additional options would have just complicated things The less buttons to press and menu options... the better!!!
Great stuff Paul. Yes I’m more M than Q 100% ..and the Q are closer to 25-26mm.
Just picked up the Elmarit pre-asph v4. I’m good, I hope.
Congrats!
Do you use the lenshood or just avoid that? Flare resitance? Thanks
No without, I like the smaller size and it works fine for me
Thanks for these reviews! I like.
Bjarni Helgason Happy to try to help others and hopefully grow the channel at the same time! :)
What do you think about early version of elmarit 28mm f2.8? Like Canada one. I have a voightlander ultron 28mm f2. Is it worth to upgrade? Or any recommendations? My budget is under $1000
I'd get the v2 Ultron (see that video.. it beats the v1 Summicron 28mm easily). I sold my Leica f2. Not sure about the v1 Elmarit but probably similar to Cron.
I use this lens on a M262, mainly for travel photographie ; and I really like it. It's the total frame of the rangefinder and its size makes the combo body / lens very discreet.
I hesitated to sold it and buy a second hand Leica Q. But at the end I think I'll keep it because shooting with a M or a Q is not the same pleasure for me.
For all other purpose, I use with a 50 summilux (80% of my pictures).
Thanks Marc, yes this lens is lovely.. and yes if you shoot 50 too . mostly Ms make sense.
Love my V4.
Nice! Haven’t tried that one
Where did you buy your adapter for your Leica r mount lenses to digital SLR body at? I’ve bought a couple adapters and all of them don’t work or fit or not actually Leica R lens to x camera body. Last one was Urth’s Leica R lens adapter to Nikon F body mount and it was not even close.
Novaflex R-M adapters are perfect. See link on MrLeica.com
My favourite 28mm for the Leica. Great price and amazing image quality
Thanks Darren! I love the size too.. though if you see my recent 28mm videos Voigtlander are making some great glass these days!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom they are. The 50mm 1.2 has long been a fav of mine and I’m intrigued by the new 90mm that’s due soon
@@DarrenRosePhotography I’ll keep an eye out, thanks!
I use the same elmarit-m 28mm asph with my M9 and it's super sharp. Fantastic lens. I recently purchased an XPro 2 with the 18mm f2. The Fuji is a great budget alternative, however the Leica M9 with the 28mm has something special.
Hi Mark, agreed amazing lens! ..and the M9! Thanks for confirming vs. Fuji. You might like the video I just posted.. "Benefits of using a Leica!" :)
Reserved a pre-owned 28mm Summicron (my current 35, 50 & 90mm are all Crons) in AB condition at my local Leica Store. Would you rather go for the new 28mm Elmarit new or Summicron used if size & weight wasn’t an issue? Thanks for your reviews Matt.
Hi Martin, I sold the Summicron 28 and replaced with the Voigtlander 28mm f2 v2. I still have the Elmarit for the size. If you don't need f2 get the Elmarit for sure of the 2 you are looking at.
Great review 👍🏼😊. The 28mm is my favorite focal lens. I use the Summilux 28 mm 1.7 Asph on the Q2 for people, street and travel photography.
Mike Mayer thanks Mike, ah great setup! I will plan to test that camera in a future video.
Thank you Matt 🙏🏼. Look forward to another video with this setup. On my channel there are a few templates for this 😎
thats the one I got and being an M10 user I think f2 is not really needed if I need better seperation I use a longer lens
simple :)
Great way to look at it. I love the small size too!
The Leica Elmarit-M 28mm 2.8 Asph. and the Leica Macro-Elmar-M 90mm 4.0 are a perfect combo, though I would prefer a similar compact 24mm 3.4 Lens together with a Fullframe Camera with built-in EVF and no Rangefinder :)
Thanks JC! Yes both lenses are really stop performers. You could use them on a SL.. stay tuned, I might be able to help with that soon ;)
How has this video aged comparing it to the ttartisans 28mm 5.6?
TTA is still great but the new 28mm Skopar now takes the top spot above both these lenses for me.
My first 28mm was a Kiron lens with my Minolta XG-1. I was very happy with the results.
Thanks Lucy, I have the 24mm Minolta and similar for Nikon but this Leica is in a completely different league.. in a good way!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I can't thank you enough for your brilliant advice and help!
Favorite 28 mm M-mount lens for me is the CV 28/2 Ultron for the best price/quality ratio. I looked for hours into new and older Leica 28 mm type lenses with the result that I all found them overpriced. The older Leica type 28 mm lenses have a lower image quality than the CV 28/2 and cost twice as much - also a no-go for me. So far the CV 28/2 does everything I need the lens for, and I am very happy with it. Btw, great videos this week, I wonder all the effort you put in here (lens/camera cost and time!). Amazing!
Martin's Analog Photo Channel Thanks Martin, yes value wise it’s great. Yes I think vs older Leica 28mm it’s similar. I only got the Summicron ASPH for that extra sharpness for weddings..but at the cost. Yes it takes a lot of time but hopefully the efforts will pay off in the long term! Happy people are liking them. I’m learning as I go!
I had this lens and loved it but had to sell it. Later I bought a Ricoh Gr1s compact film camera so I use that as my 28mm lens now, great camera quite different rendering to the Leica, much cooler.
Thanks Ross!
Just bought the 28mm elmarit-R for an SL and CL, based on price. Have you had the chance to weigh the difference between the -M and -R versions (other than the rangefinder coupling of course).
Great! I have the 24R. R lenses are usually softer than M (and bigger) but you can focus closer with the wides and yes the price is much better. Softer isn't always bad.
The 28mm Summilux is probably the sharpest and best 28mm lens I've owned. The subject isolation for portraits is awesome. It also has quite a distinct rendering. Definitely my favourite 28mm, it's only the size and price that lets it down.
Dave Andrews Thanks Dave, if I was more of a 28mm/35mm shooter I would look at it but as you say it isn’t that cheap. I did test in London and it is great. (I have a 24mm f1.4 Nikon mount lens which I used to use for similar fun but it doesn’t have the same image quality!).
Have the same 28 Summilux... On the SL it's a dream. Now I'm using it on my M, it's difficult to compose through the rangefinder due to the lens hood which is taking a lot of view.
Another great video Matt! I've been thinking about expanding from my M-Rokkor 40mm for my Minolta CLE and buying the Elmarit-M 28mm ASPH for it's compact size and sharpness, over the Voigtlander for the same reasons you described. Thanks for sharing! Think I'll get the lens first for my CLE before I get a M4-P
jusren thanks, yes that lens is fantastic and nice size on CLE 👌🏻
What do you think about the Zeiss Biogon 28mm ZM as another alternative?
jusren Biogon are amazing. See the 21 or 25mm video for a visual. I don’t have the 28 version but they have great micro contrast. Just bigger lenses vs Elmarit
One thing people don't realize about the Leica 28mm lenses is there's not much of a difference between them. The Lux, Cron and Elmarit all look just about the same in rendering. Which is not the case for most other focal lengths. The 35mm Lux and Cron are very different. The 50 Noct, Lux, Cron AND Cron APO all have different looks. The same is true at 24mm, 75mm.... But at 28mm... if you stop the Lux down to 2.8 you're not likely to find a difference between the Lux and Elmarit. So does it really make sense to spend the extra money? For some people, definitely. But I think there's a LOT of people who don't realize how amazing this lens is, and with today's ISO capabilities, there's not a huge difference between the Lux and Elmarit at 28mm.
Thanks! Great info. I actually have the 28mm Cron too but I bought for low light weddings not for the look. My M240 tops out at 1600 and bands at 3200. I love the Elmarit size, great lens. Many thanks!
Hi Matt
I'm thinking of buying a Leica Elemart 28mm to go on my Leica M 10-P.
Can you give me any things I should know about the camera before diving in?
Hi Paul, about the lens or the camera? I guess you mean the lens? Not much to say.. nice size, super sharp, you can use the M10 28mm framelines so it's a great combo. :)
Hi Matt, always a great pleasure to watch your videos. Did you try a Zeiss 28 biogon 2.8 against this elmarit? I always got very nice results with the Zeiss on both film and digital. Thanks
David Deruyver thanks David, I don’t have the Zeiss 28 but I have the 21 and 25 Biogon ZM. Both are excellent but larger in size.
So this or the 28mm f2 summicron old version! .? Great video by the way
Thanks, yes I love the size and performance of the Elmarit though I do have a Summicron 28mm ASPH too that I bought for low light wedding work. I still need to share a video for that lens.
can this Leica Elmarit be adapted to an EF mount?
Hi Richard, RF lenses are not ideal on DSLR. (EF is DSLR?) If mirrorless body it’s better. I’ve not seen other Canon users doing this but it is possible I think. It’s not possible on Nikon F.
Thanks for the great review. What is your opinion in using this lens as a travel lens on either the SL2-S or the CL. I have the conversion ring that came with my CL.
Hi Robert, great camera combo! Yes this lens is perfect for travel and if the budget with cover it get the 90 Macro lens to pair with it (see video). If you want more help or Leica content you might like my Patreon!
The 28mm focal length is one that I have never gotten on with, I have even used some of those ‘legendary’ 28mm lenses that people rave about, and I just cannot do it. It is too wide for daily use, and no where near wide enough for my wide angle uses. But as always, good video Matt, look forward to the next one.
Thanks John, I thought I replied to this from my iPad.. hmm! Thanks for your thoughts and continued support!
I actually use 50mmf2 on my Fuji XT1s for street photography, so like 75mm on a FF camera. That and the 23mm f2, so 35mm o a FF. Don't really like shooting too wide, like to focus more on my subjects than their surroundings
@@jimmason8502 Thanks, yes i'm a funny on.. if you see my portraits I go super close most the time to remove the background but on location sometimes I prefer a wider view, especially if non-model photos.
Curious if you’ve shot either the Ricoh or Minolta 28mm LTMs.
Hello, sorry I’ve not but my Minolta 40mm is excellent (see video) so I would expect the 28mm to be fine. Voigtlander make 28s too.
Hi Matt thanks for your review, I am considering this lens as well, but I am wondering which version should I get, and what do you about difference version about this lens
Hi Samuel, I got the ASPH version as I wanted the small size. I've not tried the other versions but i'm sure they are all great. (Currently I use a Elmarit-R 24mm f2.8 and love that too).
I already owned the Ultron 28 mm 2.0 before I got my M8 early 2009. It was my primary used lens on the M8. Compared to the Ultron 35 mm 1.7 asph (ltm that I use with a type II Voigtländer adapter) I found the 35 mm Ultron gave sharper results. Finally about 3 years ago I purchased the Leica Elmarit 28 mm 2.8 asph and that’s now my to go lens due it being small, light and sharp, but I still have the Ultron in case of lower light conditions with the M8. I also do not use the hood of the Elmarit mainly because I don’t like it.
Thanks RJ, yes the Elmarit is a great lens. I still need to review the Ultron 28 and the Summicron 28!
do you have any experience on version 2 and 3 of the 28mm elmarits from the 1970's? i know their bigger but still seem attractive lenses to me at least.
Hi Stephen, sorry I don’t. I went straight for the smallest lens and didn’t check others in route ha. I imagine like most Leica lenses, the older ones will have more character.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom if the mood takes you google "gli obiettivi leitz elmarit" for a remarkably detailed review of version 2 1972-79 by italian marco cavina ,,the page will translate from italian.
Just in case its of interest from a history point of view.
would you go with this lens? or the 28mm summicron as an upgrade to the 28 biogon ZM for my M6?
Hi Marlon, see the Summicron vid and check the images. It shows both lenses too
Dreamlens. Nice video and great photos. ✌🏻
Many thanks!
Hi Matt, how do you protect the front element, if you don't carry the hood? Do you use the Leica UV filter on the top? Or do you just carry it like that. Thanks
I carry without anything and add lens cap when in my bag. It’s not out all day, just as needed.
Awesome review I love the 28mm. I read your page before I found your channel, I love film photography and your reviews for medium format are very informative.
I was looking deep in your flickr and I notice that you have or use to have the Nikkor 35mm 1.4, I would love to see a review of this lens there is no much info here in UA-cam about it. Specially explamples on black and white film, I love the contrast in your photos in film. Regards!
enmunfi Thanks I’m happy you found me the “blog route” as I only just added the video. Thanks for checking my work and yes I have a lot of medium format stuff waiting patiently but I don’t want to scare off all the Leica only fans so I’ll need to do it gradually I think! :). I’d love to share the 35/1.4 G Nikkor but that is one of the few lenses I sold. Lenses without aperture rings and manual controls scare me!! They feel very short term (even though I have a few others). I’m happier with metal and glass style lenses. It is an excellent lens, very sharp wide open but as G version it wont work on most Nikon film bodies. Of my 6 bodies I think only the F5 but I bought that after selling. Check the Tamron 45mm f1.8. I have it, very similar and amazing too. Similar to G design.
I own this lens & love it. It stays mostly attached to my M9.
David Estler Thanks David, Great combination!
How about the 28mm Summilux ASPH? Quite amazing I would say, in its own right.
Sean Gao Amazing yes but I’m probably a 90% 50mm shooter so I have other FL such as 28mm just for those occasions. The Lux is amazing I did test it once in London! Background separation is lovely.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Personally I love to shoot ~50mm too (most often either 50 on FF or 40 on APS-C). I think the 28 Lux is more than background separation. It is unique in that it has both the angle of view (to draw the viewer in) and shallow DoF (creating a rather dreamy look wide-open).
great!
Thanks!
It a beauty.
Thanks Antoine 😊
Hi mate have you had any experience with the minolta m rokkor 28mm
Hi Dave no sorry only the 40mm
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ended up buying it shame you don't live closer you could do a review
davejenx thanks for the thought and congrats on the new lens! :)
Hi Matt, would you have any input or experience of the Zeiss 28mm biogon and how it compares to the Leicas?
Hi sorry for late reply. See my 25mm Biogon video for an idea. I use 21mm Biogon too but I don't have the 28mm. It should perform the same (well!) :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom just watched it actually, my only reservation is 28 is my limit but thank you!
8II0000II8 you can get the 28mm. The rendering should be similar to the 25mm 👍🏻
I have this lens & a gr iii & prefer the gr iii’s rendering by a mile.
Interesting! Yes each lens has their own look
Debating between this 28 or Voigtlander 28! It’s for my M8 and the occasional street plus travelling. The Leica seem like the obvious choice. Thanks Matt for sharing
Hi Bernard, the 28mm Elmarit has the edge BUT... as an M8 shooter I would suggest the Ultron to you as M8 users need that extra light! If you work in bright conditions then get the Elmarit. :)
Just sold my voigtlander Ultron for the ricoh 28mm ltm. Matt is probably right in that the Ultrons f2 is more useful, but I find the voigtlander lacks character
Matt Osborne thanks for your recommendations Matt.
@@simonkimber1152 I hear the Ricoh is great too. I also have the Canon 28mm that I show in the Canoin LTM lens video. I love the size of that even if less sharp.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom will find out when I receive it. canon is tiny but perhaps a bit soft and lacks contrast....the problem is anything better than the voigtlander is a massive price jump
Hi, I wonder if this lens is compatible with canon r5. thank you.
Yes i've not used a Canon R5 so i'm not sure but if you can get a leica M adapter then yes it should be fine.
Made for SLR's but adaptable to a leica with zone focusing: pentax smc K 28mm f3.5
Nice, use with EVF for say M240 if want to focus!
Currently I only have the Voigtländer, I need to get more used to it before steppig up to the Leica. Honestly Iam not even sure if with 28mm which involves a lot of saving, a Q used wouldn't make sense.
The Q is indeed excellent. I have used before but will try to get again to share on the channel.
An Elmarit 28mm 2.8 ASPH on a Voigtlander R4A is like a marrige made in heaven.
Bjarni Helgason thanks, yes I looked to buy one myself but the price had already gone up so much! Lovely camera! Maybe 1 day :)
I have considered multiple times getting that lens. Now my M7 is gone and I stick to my M4 dilemma is solved.
Hey Nico! Solved as in you need to buy one...!? You wouldn't be disappointed! :)
Matt Osborne my M4 and M3 don’t have the frame lines for 28mm 🙂
There are many versions of Elmarit 28mm, which version do u use?
I believe I have the latest M ASPH version. I wanted the smallest one.
beautiful
Thanks you! :) Nice lens!
I have the same lens, just few dozens of SN from yours. It has vignetting and fringing, noticeable in bright days, but this can be fixed in edit.
What I don't like about this lens is its lens hood. First - it is plastic, not really in line with the price, second - the lens cap on the hood is rubber/plastic and keeps falling off, even when stored in the bag. Still looking for a hood replacement for that, or maybe I will go like you do with no hood at all.
Thanks Aviram, yes I use no hood on many lenses and often unbranded eBay caps that are cheap and can often stay on better.
LOL You spend $2,000USD for a Leica lens that has vignetting and fringing that has to be fixed in editing? I have a $600 Fuji 16mm f2.8 that is perfect. So for $2,000 you'd think the Leica lens would be flawless. I keep hearing stories about expensive Leica gear that has drawbacks (bodies and lenses). Luxury priced junk?
@@jimmason8502 Thanks Jim, happy to hear you like your Fuji gear. I like character in a lens, something you get with Leica (and other lenses..especially vintage stuff). And no I don't correct for it. :)
@@jimmason8502 still I believe that this leica lens is smaller than the Fuji you mentioned. Plus it is full frame. I don't think you can get that fixed in edit.
Personally speaking, in general, I don't like by-wire focus, so I would prefer a leica lens (or any other M lens by Zeiss for that matter) over other mirrorless lenses.
My hood is metal. No vignetting nor distortion. You must have an older version of the lens.
I Like your voice! :-)
Thanks David! I don’t think anyone has ever said that including me so thanks ha :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom :-)
Focal length for street is subjective. 28mm is too wide for my taste
Thanks Daniel, yes I'm not a street man myself as you may know ifd you've seen my work but I find 28mm better than 35mm for a walkabout lens but actually 21mm in a city environment (or wedding).