Very similar to Kyuseido and Kyuseido/Gravitas, and, of course Conid. I really like the Kyuseido. I beleive CY has tuned the nibs on the Kyuseido's. I just looked, the Kyuseido's also have delrin threads. The parts on Ky the Ky/G and the 54T are so close, that one must speculate they are all using parts from the same OEM.
@@UrbanHafnersorry Urban, this is not my pen and I did not make this pen either. I work as a consultant for a couple of brands, as does the owner for 5040. As for oem parts, I don’t know for sure about that. Over and out…
Have a look at the comment in this thread from Ben Walsh directly. As he stated, he was a consultant on this pen (as he has done with some other brands).
@@benwalsh9257 Your pens and designs are pure art! We need more Dinkeys in Mokume Gane, Murcuti and Zircuti soon as they’re all sold out! Please help us complete our collections!
Aside from everything else that makes the pen so great I just can't get over the sound and how smooth the capping and uncapping is. Truly a worthy flagship pen. Bravo 👏
Me love Delrin! Whenever I had to make a tool or jig for field technicians or customers to use I loved using Delrin in the handles or moving parts to give them fantastic tactility. Smart idea using it in the cap.
Definitely a highly desirable fountain pen,for those with deep pockets- €720. Sadly,this means I will have to wait for the Chinese‘imitation’ version. They are probably working on it as we speak. The Lamy 2000 macralon,main battle fountain pen is under attack from the Diplomat Viper. At this stage the Viper only comes with a.5mm fine which is very good. Also Jinhao 80 sucking ink version with metal mid section/metal threads. Check it out.
Oh, the Titan is a beautiful pen, especially the forged carbon version. I have a Pineider Forged Carbon pen which has a wonderful tactile feel to it. It also reminds me of the penBBS 355 filling system. But the star is the nib. WOW! I love #8 nibs and this seems to be an excellent performer. I would jump on this pen but €720 is way out of my range. Thanks for the review.
Yup its not an entry pen for sure. It's right up there the likes of Conid and others. I never knew Pineider had a forged CF pen! I'll have to look it up
I love that these pens are made with so much love. The nibs look fantastic. Alas, outside of my price range. I hope a lot of people are able to buy and enjoy them. 😊
Hurray for high end steel nibs! I've had a look at their website and all the pens only go up to a medium. I'd love to see a Broad option. It's not just for the smoothness inherent to the size, but my writings and signatures look great in that size.
I'M THAT SOMEONE ASKING ABOUT THE PISTON XD THANKS FOR MENTIONING IT :) U'RE THE BEST ! I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF SOME BROKEN KAKARI PENS BECAUSE OF NOT HAVING A CLIP, WHY THEY DON'T INCLUDE IT?!
Ordered on a Saturday, came from Ireland to the US by Monday. Beat that! This pen solves my itch for the Conid Bulkfiller Kingsize that I never could seem to get. 5 stars all the way. Writes like a dream straight out of the box. Get one NOW!
Thank you for another great video. Very nice pens! The forged Carbon Fiber looks similar to the new Visconti Homo Sapien Carbon Moire LE fountain pen. A tad pricey but worth it, based on the fit and finish, quality.
The filling system is very very similar to the PenBBS 355. With the Kakari and Conid, there are subtle differences but this one really looks exactly like the 355!
I have the 355 and there are many differences. On several occasions the screw in bit on my 355 has backed out of the pen. Things can look similar but be very different when you get into the details
Why do think that “forged carbon fiber” is just about the most marketing term that I have heard recently? They used to call that material FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic), but since it is now gauche to refer to plastics, it is called resin. Bit, that pen is beautiful, and they both appear to be made with extreme care in design and manufacturing.
Fiber Reinforced Plastic is different than forged carbon fiber. The term plastic is the same as the term metal. A term used to group material with similar properties. Just as there are a huge array of metals and alloys all with different properties, the same is true for plastics. Grouping all "plastics" under one term and thinking them as the same would similar to not distinguishing between iron and gold and just saying they are metal. There is a whole bunch of science and engineering that goes into the development & manufacturing of these synthetic materials. Sorry for the rant, nothing personal, but it drives me a bit nuts when I see the "its just plastic" comments pop up.
When trust me, I'm an engineer is real deal here. You get these gorgeous pens. The price is high, but I guess it's totally worth it, as it goes the devil is in the details. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for yet another excellent review, taking us on the technical tour de force in the Titan pen. I have been enjoying my forged carbon Titan for a couple of weeks and couldn't be happier. BTW, Visconti have introduced a forged carbon version of their H-S pen at a much higher price than their normal offerings, indicating just how difficult it is to manufacture using this exceptional material. I hope Mr Anderson will try to make a version of Titan with a forged carbon section. I would certainly be standing in line for future offerings by Fifty4T.
The Visconti also has gold leaf in their forged CF, which is definitely their style LOL. Its a really nice material and I'm surprised but the smoothness of the fillets on the parts. I absolutely hated when I had to machine carbon fiber parts. Cool seeing these materials being used on a pen
Here is a quick way to clean piston, vac, etc., pens with easily removable nib/feed and nib units as well as converters, empty cartridges. On piston, vac, etc., pens you need to remove the nib unit or nib and feed to access the feed post hole. Pull the needle and little white plastic adapter from one of the cheap spring action ink syringes and insert it into a bulb syringe filled with water. Insert the needle into the mouth of the converter or cartridge, or into the feed post hole of a piston, vac, etc., pen. Flush. Even a piston/vac filler can be cleaned in seconds this way. You can also use the empty bulb syringe to try to blast out leftover water droplets. I then usually sling the pen, converter, etc., to try to get out more. After cleaning any pen that is not going to be re-inked immediately I put the parts in a mesh bag and hang it under a ceiling fan for several days to try to assure all parts are as dry as I can get them, but just leaving the parts separate for and extended time will probably work. I am a bit of a fanatic about making sure things, not just pens, are thoroughly dry before storing them for any length of time!
Nice review DB. I don't have a Conid Bulkfiller, but I do have a PenBBS 355 & the Gravitas Kyuseido Kakari. The one thing in common that these pens have with the Titan is the mechanism works to fill the pen with ink. The difference, as you already know, is in the design of that mechanism and how it accomplishes that task. That's what fascinates me. Right now my most expensive purchase to date was the Kakari (and it wasn't cheap!) so I could well afford the Titan. The question is do I have the will to expend that level of funds for the pen, and sadly I do not, not at this time. For now, I'm really enjoying writing with the Kakari - a fantastic pen in it's own right. I may have mentioned before (sometimes I forget if I had or hadn't) if you want to write with a really good smooth large nib then consider the Kanwrite Mammoth X - it has a very large #9 size nib that I swear looks massive next to a #8 nib.
Lovely pen but I need a clip, I associate clipless pens with markers, they feel cheap to me. I'd take the Ultem variant over the CF model. The forged or cast carbon fibre does delivery a better surface finish over wound or wrapped but it's nowhere near as strong, I suppose that is why acrylic is matched with the CF. In CF it is that winding or weaving pattern that distributes force in normal composites to deliver strength, and the crispy ends are ends of fibres.
This is really perfect timing, even though it is four times out of my price range(doesn't stop the drooling unfortunately). Lately I've been looking at the Gravitas Ultemate Vac, but, being a klutz of the 13th degree, I know it's gonna roll off my desk. I also know that the pen is gonna be fine thanks to the polycarbonate body, but the nib...? Anyways, my question/request is if you have one or several methods of making DIY roll stops(not pen rests) that a)don't ruin the pen either visually or functionally b)are implementable for someone with aforementioned klutz syndrome and finally c)don't cost more than it's worth. If you wanna make a video of it(or have a video I haven't found) feel free to do so, not in a rush for an answer. Help me, Doodlebud Kenobi, you're my only hope.
I've seen slip-on style pen roll stops. There is a pen called the Fuliwen 017. It has an adjustable snake roll stop. Maybe you can buy just the roll stop or find something similar
Is it just the soft bouncy feel that makes the writing feel better than your Montblanc 149? The nib sounds awesome, but for that much cash I very much prefer the styling and size of the 149.
The smoothest and feedback especially on the M is extremely nice along with the bounciness. Its like the M1000 which just has a unique experience all on its own compared to the M800
Check the pinned comment in the video. Ben left a comment in there to help clear things up. He was a consultant for some of the details with Fifty4T as he has done for other brands. So there is some influence from him, but this is a separate brand by a separate person all together.
Really intriguing pens, but the cost is prohibitive given the steel nibs. They're pushing into Bulkfiller territory in terms of price, without the nib material. Not quite, but it's getting there. And I still might buy one because they're that interesting. Both the versions you have look really good. They're not available right now, so we'll see. Cheers.
There are many good and some strange things here. The good ones you have described them in your video. The strange ones are the price and the nib. There aren't many independent steel nib manufacturers around that make #8 nibs. In europe there is only Bock and they make them only in titanium and gold. Then there the asian nib makers that make steel #8 nibs, namely Jinhao( Some people also mentioned the Majhon/ Moonman). Adding an ebonite feed isn't something really expensive too. Regarding the pen itself, Namisu and Gravitas make ultem/titanium combinations at very reasonable prices. I can't see why Fifty4T is asking so much money for their pens and the filling system can't be the reason. Actually I can't see any reason to buy these pens at this price. At 200€ they would be nicely placed in the market.
The shape of the piston reminds me of a submarine for some reason, very unique. How long exactly is the nib from the edge of the grip section to the end of the tipping? I've often wondered what would happen if someone were to replicate the nib geometry on Pilot's Custom series gold nibs like the Custom Urushi, 845 and 823, but use steel instead of gold and make it the length of a size 50 Emperor nib.
Curious, have you ever tried/reviewed Shon design's Monoch nib? I have been vacillating about buying one for 2 years now. Would love to see or take on it. Thanks for all the great reviews.
1. I'd love to see more about the pocket model. 2. Best manufactured pen ever? 3. Nib smooth AND accurate? I need to try it. $700? Oops, nevermind. I wonder if a replacement nib will fit in one of my pen bodies. 4. Thanks for the show.
Pocket pen review will be coming. Best manufactured, that's a big claim but also impossible to rank as there are so many pens out there that use a wire range of manufacturing processes and materials. I can say its very well made. I asked which other pens his #8 nibs fit and he wasn't sure.
Matchy matchy!!! The Ritma is a really fun pen. The CF but the edge its a bit crispy/poky. I'm used to it now but might annoy some folks. They even have a walnut version which looks very nice. I haven't been a big fan of too many Monteverde pens, but I would recommend the Ritma any day.
I feel like it must be possible to make an steel alloy for nibs which has almost identical properties to a gold nib 14k/18k. I wonder why nobody has. I guess there just aren't that many manufacturers for which it would be an advantage since most make both and steel and gold nibs so need to differentiate.
Hey Doodle bud. Always enjoy your engineers take on pen construction. What segment of industry do you work in? Lots of titanium and engineered plastics. Medical?
You know, given your understanding of engineering and how things are made, plus your love of fountain pens, have you ever considered designing a fountain pen? I’m serious. You could team up with a manufacturer and design a pen. I know I would buy your pen for sure!
@panopticonwillsaveus Just a design choice. Some things look better without a clip. You do give up a form/function to benefit from a design/esthetic. Perhaps the Titan II with feature a clip 🤔. The naming sequence of his pen could perhaps take a queue from the Titan Rocket Family
@@trulsdirio I'd say it's about ingenuity and efficency. Instead of wasting someone says "hold on a minute, can we do something with that?" Turns out you can. Making this parts from a CF fabric wouldn't be possible. Also not sure if all forged CF material is made only from woven CF offcuts.
Have you noticed that their #8 nib is the same as Majohn P139 #8 nib? it has literally the same feed with 18 outer grooves, the same looking breather hole the nib assembly is just the same. Doodlebud, can you please check if the nibs are interchangeable on majohn P139 with #8 nib and this pen? I just think that these two companies use the same OEM company which produces nibs? or maybe fifty4t just uses majohn/moonman nibs
Came to comment the same thing. I had a look back at the review of the P139 and when the nib unit was unscrewed it looks exactly the same. I don't think this detracts from the Fifty4T pen at all, I expect there's some QA/QC done by FIfty4T to make sure the nibs are as good as they appear, but I think it's interesting to know for customer for swapping nibs and getting custom grinds without having to buy a whole new pen.
So I found my P139 and the components seem to be extremely similar if not identical. However how they feel when writing is quite different. The P139 is also a M and writes nicely but the feeling on the one from the Titan is so much nicer. Possibly the same nib manufacturer with different spec or perhaps work is done on the nibs afterwards which is not done on the Majohn ones?
Forged carbon fiber is a marketing term. It's inferior to continuous fiber in every way, and cheaper. The filling system is like a big version of a kaweco mini converter with extra steps. It has a steel nib, no clip or roll stop of any kind. Metal into plastic threads. All this for the low, low price of €720.
I'm just getting over a sinus infection. Whenever I have a soar throat, cold, sinus issue.... I get real low! This is nothing compared to how I was sounding a few weeks ago LOL. Also depends on how I talk. If I'm feeling excited/energetic its a bit higher. If Im relaxed and talking a bit slower, its quite low.
Really nice looking pen. But there is no way on earth I'd pay anywhere close to what he is asking for these pens. Yeah it's cool yes the engineering is a lot but I don't see the value.
That nib looks sublime. While the pen is made to the highest degree possible, it's not my personal cup of tea as I don't care for demo pens much. Even Conid I don't care for the looks of. But yeah this pen is something else though. I really understand the appeal. Awesome video Doodlebud!
@@Doodlebud M205 Pelikan and a Nahvalur Original are the only demos I own!! LOL! I'll probably never own another one to be honest. They just don't call to me. I do understand why people like them though for themselves.
What are your thoughts on terms of these being incredibly similar to the Gravitas /Kyoseido Kakari? And the Asvine V200 ( I know the price points are different).
What I like about most other reviewers is that they share the price early in the review. These are VERY expensive pens, especially given these pens have steel nibs. There are very fine steel nibs available for a fraction of the cost of these pens, and although I hope all the nibs are as good as the ones on the pens sent to you, he has no track record so there is a risk. I assumed a rush on a very expensive pen from a small manufacturer who was extending their line and had a VERY bad experience and they never made good on the issue. These are probably fine, but there's no way I would sink this much money into an unknown maker. If I was going to spend this much money I would wait for a Conid.
The ultem is also very polished which makes a big difference. Many ultem pens are usually a matte finish, but it polishes up very nicely. The shine it achieves with the Ti do look really stunning together.
Thanks for the review. Exceptionally engineered pens, still IMHO on the pricey side, which is, among else, a consequence of small batch(es). Will you review the "pocket" version? As I understood from Fifty4T site, it is also #8 nib. Is it cartridge / converter, or...?
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Very similar to Kyuseido and Kyuseido/Gravitas, and, of course Conid. I really like the Kyuseido. I beleive CY has tuned the nibs on the Kyuseido's. I just looked, the Kyuseido's also have delrin threads. The parts on Ky the Ky/G and the 54T are so close, that one must speculate they are all using parts from the same OEM.
@@UrbanHafner So what is CY's contribution?
@@UrbanHafnersorry Urban, this is not my pen and I did not make this pen either. I work as a consultant for a couple of brands, as does the owner for 5040. As for oem parts, I don’t know for sure about that. Over and out…
@@UrbanHafnerCY also loved the Moonman T1. Also evident in his design.
Have a look at the comment in this thread from Ben Walsh directly. As he stated, he was a consultant on this pen (as he has done with some other brands).
@@benwalsh9257 Your pens and designs are pure art! We need more Dinkeys in Mokume Gane, Murcuti and Zircuti soon as they’re all sold out! Please help us complete our collections!
Absolutely stunning pens, I wish they were within my budget, but I will have to be content admiring them from afar.
They are amazing but this is his current top model. I imagine there will be more models to follow at lower price points
Glad to hear this…I’ll keep watching out for this! The nib has got my full attention! …(for the writing experience)
Aside from everything else that makes the pen so great I just can't get over the sound and how smooth the capping and uncapping is. Truly a worthy flagship pen. Bravo 👏
Me love Delrin! Whenever I had to make a tool or jig for field technicians or customers to use I loved using Delrin in the handles or moving parts to give them fantastic tactility. Smart idea using it in the cap.
Definitely a highly desirable fountain pen,for those with deep pockets- €720.
Sadly,this means I will have to wait for the Chinese‘imitation’ version. They are probably working on it as we speak.
The Lamy 2000 macralon,main battle fountain pen is under attack from the Diplomat Viper. At this stage the Viper only comes with a.5mm fine which is very good. Also Jinhao 80 sucking ink version with metal mid section/metal threads. Check it out.
Oh, the Titan is a beautiful pen, especially the forged carbon version. I have a Pineider Forged Carbon pen which has a wonderful tactile feel to it. It also reminds me of the penBBS 355 filling system. But the star is the nib. WOW! I love #8 nibs and this seems to be an excellent performer.
I would jump on this pen but €720 is way out of my range.
Thanks for the review.
Yup its not an entry pen for sure. It's right up there the likes of Conid and others. I never knew Pineider had a forged CF pen! I'll have to look it up
I love that these pens are made with so much love. The nibs look fantastic. Alas, outside of my price range. I hope a lot of people are able to buy and enjoy them. 😊
The nib is superb. I now want to own one. I hope the maker will make more of these in the future.
Hurray for high end steel nibs!
I've had a look at their website and all the pens only go up to a medium. I'd love to see a Broad option. It's not just for the smoothness inherent to the size, but my writings and signatures look great in that size.
I'M THAT SOMEONE ASKING ABOUT THE PISTON XD THANKS FOR MENTIONING IT :) U'RE THE BEST !
I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF SOME BROKEN KAKARI PENS BECAUSE OF NOT HAVING A CLIP, WHY THEY DON'T INCLUDE IT?!
Bought one this morning. It's a good time too, because the exchange rate favors the USD.
Wish I could say the same about the CAD!!! There was a period around 2012 where CAD was above USD..... good times, good times....
Ordered on a Saturday, came from Ireland to the US by Monday. Beat that! This pen solves my itch for the Conid Bulkfiller Kingsize that I never could seem to get. 5 stars all the way. Writes like a dream straight out of the box. Get one NOW!
@samuelbrainsample that was quick! Great to hear you're enjoying it
Loving these well-engineered pens. Ben Walsh would be proud. 👍
you have the voice to narrate an audiobook
I've thought about it.....
Wow 😮 This is sooo impressive! As is your excitement! Golly, I’d love to experience this! Thank you!
They are really great and Im super fortunate he reached out to me
Excellent review. Stunning pens and beautifully engineered. I already own a Conid bulkfiller, but this would be a really nice addition....
Lovely and tempting as my first gen Bulkfiller has been a daily driver for seven years. But, no clip means hard pass for me.
DOOOOODLEBUD!
Thanks dood really thankful for a close look at these pens. Black friday gonna hit hard this year :)
LOL I got excited on discounts on some printing filaments! I have some printing to do!
Brilliant pens. Wish I could afford them. Quality and honesty of the pens could teach Montblanc a few lessons.
Great pens but also premium materials, hence the price. I imagine he will introduce some pens at a lower price point
Thank you for another great video. Very nice pens! The forged Carbon Fiber looks similar to the new Visconti Homo Sapien Carbon Moire LE fountain pen. A tad pricey but worth it, based on the fit and finish, quality.
The filling system is very very similar to the PenBBS 355. With the Kakari and Conid, there are subtle differences but this one really looks exactly like the 355!
I have the 355 and there are many differences. On several occasions the screw in bit on my 355 has backed out of the pen. Things can look similar but be very different when you get into the details
@ understood. But then again we’re talking about $35 vs $700.
Absolutely. I once had a t-bone steak at Denny's thinking "a t-bone is a t-bone." WOW.... was I mistaken! LOL
@@Doodlebud understood! It was just a question and then an observation. I enjoy your content.
@@jeffreyclayman6922 no worries my friend. One thing I can't convey over test is tone. I'm a pretty chill guy so be sure to read it that way 👍☺️
Why do think that “forged carbon fiber” is just about the most marketing term that I have heard recently? They used to call that material FRP (Fiber Reinforced Plastic), but since it is now gauche to refer to plastics, it is called resin.
Bit, that pen is beautiful, and they both appear to be made with extreme care in design and manufacturing.
Fiber Reinforced Plastic is different than forged carbon fiber. The term plastic is the same as the term metal. A term used to group material with similar properties.
Just as there are a huge array of metals and alloys all with different properties, the same is true for plastics. Grouping all "plastics" under one term and thinking them as the same would similar to not distinguishing between iron and gold and just saying they are metal. There is a whole bunch of science and engineering that goes into the development & manufacturing of these synthetic materials. Sorry for the rant, nothing personal, but it drives me a bit nuts when I see the "its just plastic" comments pop up.
When trust me, I'm an engineer is real deal here. You get these gorgeous pens. The price is high, but I guess it's totally worth it, as it goes the devil is in the details. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely brilliant filling system! Why hasn't someone done that before?! Fellow Engineers kick rear!
@@mcw1593 Gravitas Kakari…Conid Bulkfiller and PenBBS 355!
Thanks for yet another excellent review, taking us on the technical tour de force in the Titan pen. I have been enjoying my forged carbon Titan for a couple of weeks and couldn't be happier. BTW, Visconti have introduced a forged carbon version of their H-S pen at a much higher price than their normal offerings, indicating just how difficult it is to manufacture using this exceptional material. I hope Mr Anderson will try to make a version of Titan with a forged carbon section. I would certainly be standing in line for future offerings by Fifty4T.
The Visconti also has gold leaf in their forged CF, which is definitely their style LOL. Its a really nice material and I'm surprised but the smoothness of the fillets on the parts. I absolutely hated when I had to machine carbon fiber parts. Cool seeing these materials being used on a pen
Here is a quick way to clean piston, vac, etc., pens with easily removable nib/feed and nib units as well as converters, empty cartridges. On piston, vac, etc., pens you need to remove the nib unit or nib and feed to access the feed post hole. Pull the needle and little white plastic adapter from one of the cheap spring action ink syringes and insert it into a bulb syringe filled with water. Insert the needle into the mouth of the converter or cartridge, or into the feed post hole of a piston, vac, etc., pen. Flush. Even a piston/vac filler can be cleaned in seconds this way. You can also use the empty bulb syringe to try to blast out leftover water droplets. I then usually sling the pen, converter, etc., to try to get out more. After cleaning any pen that is not going to be re-inked immediately I put the parts in a mesh bag and hang it under a ceiling fan for several days to try to assure all parts are as dry as I can get them, but just leaving the parts separate for and extended time will probably work. I am a bit of a fanatic about making sure things, not just pens, are thoroughly dry before storing them for any length of time!
Black Ultem would look very spiffy. Thanks for the review, looks like an incredible pen.
I haven't seen a black ultem pen yet, would be interesting to see who that would look
Nice review DB. I don't have a Conid Bulkfiller, but I do have a PenBBS 355 & the Gravitas Kyuseido Kakari. The one thing in common that these pens have with the Titan is the mechanism works to fill the pen with ink. The difference, as you already know, is in the design of that mechanism and how it accomplishes that task. That's what fascinates me. Right now my most expensive purchase to date was the Kakari (and it wasn't cheap!) so I could well afford the Titan. The question is do I have the will to expend that level of funds for the pen, and sadly I do not, not at this time. For now, I'm really enjoying writing with the Kakari - a fantastic pen in it's own right. I may have mentioned before (sometimes I forget if I had or hadn't) if you want to write with a really good smooth large nib then consider the Kanwrite Mammoth X - it has a very large #9 size nib that I swear looks massive next to a #8 nib.
@@zeus52452 I'd love to get my hands on one to give it a go. I've only heard great things! 👍
Lovely pen but I need a clip, I associate clipless pens with markers, they feel cheap to me.
I'd take the Ultem variant over the CF model. The forged or cast carbon fibre does delivery a better surface finish over wound or wrapped but it's nowhere near as strong, I suppose that is why acrylic is matched with the CF. In CF it is that winding or weaving pattern that distributes force in normal composites to deliver strength, and the crispy ends are ends of fibres.
Can't wait to try one of these nibs when they hit a price point i can stomach.
That ebonite feed and its housing looks exactly the same as the Majohn P139
This is really perfect timing, even though it is four times out of my price range(doesn't stop the drooling unfortunately). Lately I've been looking at the Gravitas Ultemate Vac, but, being a klutz of the 13th degree, I know it's gonna roll off my desk. I also know that the pen is gonna be fine thanks to the polycarbonate body, but the nib...? Anyways, my question/request is if you have one or several methods of making DIY roll stops(not pen rests) that a)don't ruin the pen either visually or functionally b)are implementable for someone with aforementioned klutz syndrome and finally c)don't cost more than it's worth. If you wanna make a video of it(or have a video I haven't found) feel free to do so, not in a rush for an answer. Help me, Doodlebud Kenobi, you're my only hope.
I've seen slip-on style pen roll stops. There is a pen called the Fuliwen 017. It has an adjustable snake roll stop. Maybe you can buy just the roll stop or find something similar
Is it just the soft bouncy feel that makes the writing feel better than your Montblanc 149? The nib sounds awesome, but for that much cash I very much prefer the styling and size of the 149.
The smoothest and feedback especially on the M is extremely nice along with the bounciness. Its like the M1000 which just has a unique experience all on its own compared to the M800
One of each please. Thanks!
The pens AND the website have the look and feel of Gravitas. Did Ben start a new company now that he runs Gravitas through Pen Venture?
Check the pinned comment in the video. Ben left a comment in there to help clear things up. He was a consultant for some of the details with Fifty4T as he has done for other brands. So there is some influence from him, but this is a separate brand by a separate person all together.
I own a kyuseido pen and it looks very very similar. Like, really similar. Not sure how I feel about it
Really intriguing pens, but the cost is prohibitive given the steel nibs. They're pushing into Bulkfiller territory in terms of price, without the nib material. Not quite, but it's getting there. And I still might buy one because they're that interesting. Both the versions you have look really good. They're not available right now, so we'll see. Cheers.
There are many good and some strange things here. The good ones you have described them in your video. The strange ones are the price and the nib. There aren't many independent steel nib manufacturers around that make #8 nibs. In europe there is only Bock and they make them only in titanium and gold. Then there the asian nib makers that make steel #8 nibs, namely Jinhao( Some people also mentioned the Majhon/ Moonman). Adding an ebonite feed isn't something really expensive too.
Regarding the pen itself, Namisu and Gravitas make ultem/titanium combinations at very reasonable prices. I can't see why Fifty4T is asking so much money for their pens and the filling system can't be the reason. Actually I can't see any reason to buy these pens at this price. At 200€ they would be nicely placed in the market.
The shape of the piston reminds me of a submarine for some reason, very unique. How long exactly is the nib from the edge of the grip section to the end of the tipping? I've often wondered what would happen if someone were to replicate the nib geometry on Pilot's Custom series gold nibs like the Custom Urushi, 845 and 823, but use steel instead of gold and make it the length of a size 50 Emperor nib.
Curious, have you ever tried/reviewed Shon design's Monoch nib? I have been vacillating about buying one for 2 years now. Would love to see or take on it. Thanks for all the great reviews.
Haven't gotten my hands on one yet
1. I'd love to see more about the pocket model.
2. Best manufactured pen ever?
3. Nib smooth AND accurate? I need to try it. $700? Oops, nevermind. I wonder if a replacement nib will fit in one of my pen bodies.
4. Thanks for the show.
Pocket pen review will be coming. Best manufactured, that's a big claim but also impossible to rank as there are so many pens out there that use a wire range of manufacturing processes and materials. I can say its very well made. I asked which other pens his #8 nibs fit and he wasn't sure.
This looks like a really nice pen, but it's out of my price range. But, I might buy that ritma, it would coordinate with my knee braces 😂
Matchy matchy!!! The Ritma is a really fun pen. The CF but the edge its a bit crispy/poky. I'm used to it now but might annoy some folks. They even have a walnut version which looks very nice. I haven't been a big fan of too many Monteverde pens, but I would recommend the Ritma any day.
@Doodlebud yeah, i have the matte black ritma, the only annoyance i have is that if you twist rhe cap it unscrew the section. It's a nice pen though!
I've had my Ultem/Titanium Titan for 2 weeks and still haven't inked it up lol.
OMG! That's serious pen edging LOL
I feel like it must be possible to make an steel alloy for nibs which has almost identical properties to a gold nib 14k/18k. I wonder why nobody has. I guess there just aren't that many manufacturers for which it would be an advantage since most make both and steel and gold nibs so need to differentiate.
I’m just fell in love with that yellow one. Do they ship to Australia.
As far as I know they do. They can also be bought from Pen Venture. Links are in the description
@ thank you. I wrote my comment before the price reveal. I’ve got my kidney on the market.
@@justnik8727 LOL you only need one to survive soooooooo.....
@@Doodlebud Haha. Yes indeed. I am seriously contemplating it though and thank you for all your videos! Very enjoyable and informative.
Hey Doodle bud. Always enjoy your engineers take on pen construction. What segment of industry do you work in? Lots of titanium and engineered plastics. Medical?
I've been out of engineering from a career standpoint for 10yrs now. But my mind is still there 24/7. I worked with precision laser systems.
@@Doodlebud "LASERS" *Dr. Evil voice*
@@IdShift I LOVE lasers!
You know, given your understanding of engineering and how things are made, plus your love of fountain pens, have you ever considered designing a fountain pen? I’m serious. You could team up with a manufacturer and design a pen. I know I would buy your pen for sure!
Maybe one day. That would be fun to do 👍
great video, beautiful pens
Nice pen, I just wish they'd make one with a clip!
Maybe a future pen will have a clip. The one on the pocket pens is REALLY good! I'll talk about it in the review
@@Doodlebud I agree, the clip on the pocket pen is great. Why couldn't they put that on the Titan??
@panopticonwillsaveus Just a design choice. Some things look better without a clip. You do give up a form/function to benefit from a design/esthetic. Perhaps the Titan II with feature a clip 🤔. The naming sequence of his pen could perhaps take a queue from the Titan Rocket Family
Does this pen have Bock 380 nib unit?
Not the Bock unit as far as I know
It's funny how carbon scraps became the next hot thing everybody gushes about. It really is all about the branding lol.
@@trulsdirio I'd say it's about ingenuity and efficency. Instead of wasting someone says "hold on a minute, can we do something with that?" Turns out you can. Making this parts from a CF fabric wouldn't be possible. Also not sure if all forged CF material is made only from woven CF offcuts.
Nice pen and ink. about the paper really do not know.
I used Clairefontaine for the paper
Beautiful pens. Very reminiscent of the Kyuseido Kakari.
Yep! I own one, so I can attest to that. Cheers!
I've only seen the Kakari so can't comment but it looks like a great pen as well
This one seems better designed than CY’s.
Nice pen but imho expensive for a steel nib pen.
Interesting, is the forged carbon the same as or similar to the new Visconti Homo Sapiens made with carbon?
They both use forged carbon fiber but the Visconti one has some gold leaf mixed into it.
Gorgeous line of pens. Maybe my bucket list pen? 😃
Is the nib made by the maker?
Not that I'm awards of
Can it be posted deeply and securely?
Posts nicely like I showed in the video
@@Doodlebud Thank you.
Have you noticed that their #8 nib is the same as Majohn P139 #8 nib? it has literally the same feed with 18 outer grooves, the same looking breather hole the nib assembly is just the same. Doodlebud, can you please check if the nibs are interchangeable on majohn P139 with #8 nib and this pen? I just think that these two companies use the same OEM company which produces nibs? or maybe fifty4t just uses majohn/moonman nibs
Came to comment the same thing. I had a look back at the review of the P139 and when the nib unit was unscrewed it looks exactly the same. I don't think this detracts from the Fifty4T pen at all, I expect there's some QA/QC done by FIfty4T to make sure the nibs are as good as they appear, but I think it's interesting to know for customer for swapping nibs and getting custom grinds without having to buy a whole new pen.
Hmmm, I'll see if I can find the P139 to compare. Can't remember if I gave it to someone or not 🤔
@@DoodlebudThanks, I'll wait. Just interesting if they use the same OEM nib manufacturer or no.
So I found my P139 and the components seem to be extremely similar if not identical. However how they feel when writing is quite different. The P139 is also a M and writes nicely but the feeling on the one from the Titan is so much nicer. Possibly the same nib manufacturer with different spec or perhaps work is done on the nibs afterwards which is not done on the Majohn ones?
@@Doodlebud Yeah, most likely nibs are the same, but they tune them by hand unlike Majohn
What is the name of the magnifier you used on the phone
It's from Apexel. Here's the video. I have another lens from them but I prefer this one the most
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I thought 5040 was the height of the year these were created?
Forged carbon fiber is a marketing term. It's inferior to continuous fiber in every way, and cheaper. The filling system is like a big version of a kaweco mini converter with extra steps. It has a steel nib, no clip or roll stop of any kind. Metal into plastic threads. All this for the low, low price of €720.
Where does "he" sit? You mentioned Europe, but it can't be Germany for sure. :) The pens look great, though.
He's in Ireland, I mentioned that at the start I believe
@@Doodlebud Ah, thanks, I must have missed that. Yes, they have some great engineers over there.
He showed me his wall with his degrees.... WOW! Pretty smart guy
Did you change your microphone, because you're voice sounds considerably different in the "low midrange" spectrum. Guessing 400-800 Hz.
I'm just getting over a sinus infection. Whenever I have a soar throat, cold, sinus issue.... I get real low! This is nothing compared to how I was sounding a few weeks ago LOL. Also depends on how I talk. If I'm feeling excited/energetic its a bit higher. If Im relaxed and talking a bit slower, its quite low.
If Doodlebud made a pen...
Maybe one day!
Really nice looking pen. But there is no way on earth I'd pay anywhere close to what he is asking for these pens. Yeah it's cool yes the engineering is a lot but I don't see the value.
54-40
Or fight.
Classic 90's Canadian band too
@ yes sir. A band that took its name from a slogan related to a border dispute!
I usually find carbon fibre really ugly, but that version is swoonsome. Love it. The pens sound like epic productions.
Regular woven type CF is not my thing too much, but forged carbon fiber is really nice!
That nib looks sublime. While the pen is made to the highest degree possible, it's not my personal cup of tea as I don't care for demo pens much. Even Conid I don't care for the looks of. But yeah this pen is something else though. I really understand the appeal. Awesome video Doodlebud!
Some pens look good as demo and some not so much so I hear ya. Pelikan M series as a clear demo.... yuk in my books LOL
@@Doodlebud M205 Pelikan and a Nahvalur Original are the only demos I own!! LOL! I'll probably never own another one to be honest. They just don't call to me. I do understand why people like them though for themselves.
Cool pen, but really dumb name. Shoulda went with Fibonacci
What are your thoughts on terms of these being incredibly similar to the Gravitas /Kyoseido Kakari? And the Asvine V200 ( I know the price points are different).
$700 pens vs. $30 pens. Makes ya think, right? But, different materials and filling systems.
I don't have a Kakari to compare so can't comment on that. But the V200 is massively different. They are both pens..... comparison over LOL
@@Doodlebud I hear ya!
What I like about most other reviewers is that they share the price early in the review. These are VERY expensive pens, especially given these pens have steel nibs.
There are very fine steel nibs available for a fraction of the cost of these pens, and although I hope all the nibs are as good as the ones on the pens sent to you, he has no track record so there is a risk. I assumed a rush on a very expensive pen from a small manufacturer who was extending their line and had a VERY bad experience and they never made good on the issue. These are probably fine, but there's no way I would sink this much money into an unknown maker. If I was going to spend this much money I would wait for a Conid.
Yeah, this pen seems likely to fill the need for (unavailable) Conids.
Pairing with titanium actually makes raw ultem look good. Who'd have guessed?
The ultem is also very polished which makes a big difference. Many ultem pens are usually a matte finish, but it polishes up very nicely. The shine it achieves with the Ti do look really stunning together.
Very expensive!
Thanks for the review. Exceptionally engineered pens, still IMHO on the pricey side, which is, among else, a consequence of small batch(es).
Will you review the "pocket" version? As I understood from Fifty4T site, it is also #8 nib. Is it cartridge / converter, or...?
I will be reviewing it, I mentioned right at the start it will be in a separate video.
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