How to Get the Gig
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2023
- Wondering how to join a band and get some sweet gigs? Then this ep’s for you. Rhett and Zach share their advice, from how to get in front of audiences and make more connections-if it’s all about who you know, how do you get to know the right people? And how do you impress them enough to hire you?-to the skills you’ll need to hone to get the job done. Sure, knowing your way around your instrument is really important, but it’s not just about scales, arpeggios, and chord voicings. And different gigs-cover bands, wedding bands, singer/songwriters-require different skills. (Hint: Know how to get a good sound out of the gear you already have!) Bad gig stories-from unappreciative wedding guests, to festivals who serve all beer and no water, to playing in the rain and getting all your stuff covered in mud-are just part of the fun, because all experience is valuable, at least in the beginning, and Rhett tells the story of how a single bad gig led to a wealth of connections and opportunity that landed him here today.
Along the way, the duo dip Patreon supporter Ryan Paterson’s vintage plus Strymon rig-dig that 1959 Gibson ES-345-and they pay their respects to the recently departed Jeff Beck and David Crosby. Plus, Rhett shows off the mystery amp (“a tweed amp on steroids”) he just bought, but he needs your help to figure out where it came from. Who built this thing? If you know, drop him a line!
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Zach is becoming an International man of mystery. He spoke with Billy F Gibbons on the phone (from a previous episode) and David Crosby made a face at him and gave him the thumbs up... Also - that PRS is stunning - I'm wondering why the lawyer sold it to Gruhn's?
That all-Strymon board could pay for a year’s rent
And 2 weeks’ energy bills 😂
Or a dozen eggs
You guys just explained my first band experience. I was a bedroom player for my first 5 years of playing. Friends of mine were in a band and needed another guitar player. I had the house to play at so everyone came to my house. We started the first song and I played so much faster than everyone else. They stopped the song and said " Hey Speed Racer, slow down a bit." It was right then when I learned what timing was all about.
This was also me at 15/16 man I finally got my chance and blew it 😂 I eventually got in the band tho
Pp
Really appreciate this main topic today. I'm getting the itch to move from my insular guitar playing to at least having a jam, or a band for fun not profit. And so a lot of the advice/discussion here is actually helpful. Especially points raised by Zach as he's coming from a perspective more akin to many of us (Rhett being a pro musician does lead to some, let's say blind spots, sometimes.). Speaking of blind spots, most of this conversation centred on young players getting out there. But what about us older players wanting to get back out there?
This episode is a great example of why I watch this podcast.
"I don't see that when I talk about..."
You see that all the time when people talk about vintage gear. That Pedal Show has built their entire YT channel around it.
I simply don’t understand the prs debate. Rhett owns a prs. Got him through music school. He made a video paying homage to it!! He made a video comparing an old custom 24 with a new one and gave it its praises. People don’t do their due diligence and pay attention. Rhett’s prs is literally on his guitar rack behind him. So there is one out there that resonated with him 😂 the whole thing should be null and void. Theres a prs he likes, a novo, lp, strat, tele etc. no argument of any kind should even have to be made.
"know your gear" looking at you Phill McKnight. Speaking of which y'all should invite him on. He just launched a new guitar company too
PRS did one good thing for the guitar industry: quality control. If you look back at Fender and Gibson, their QC goes in fits and starts. PRS put them on notice that would not be acceptable for the long haul. And if you'll agree with me, the consumers are backing that up. If Gibson or Fender have a bad year, PRS picks up the slack. New builders are taking notice that a slab of plywood with fret-sprout, spinters, and Krylon paint will not serve.
That said: I don't own a PRS. I have my eye on two somewhere down the line, but Gretch is my bucket list guitar. I rather doubt I'll run after a Fender or a Gibson, but I would take a G&L or a Heritage.
Still, the point I'd make is the golden age of gear we live in likely would not have happened without PRS, Mesa Boogie, and Taylor. There is such a thing as raising the bar, and the aggravation it has caused Fender, Gibson, Martin, and Marshall only benefits their brand after a little soul-searching.
Great point. It applies to all kinds of products. When Lexus came along in the early 90's it completely changed European luxury cars.
Mesmerized by Rhett's suggestive screen saver
Skin tone, definitely suggestive
I’m going to just say it. I’m a fan of PRS guitars, I own 6. I also own Gibson, Fender, Ibanez, G&L. To say that PRS guitars are more consistent……..well, it’s BS!!!! PERIOD!!!! They vary as much as anything. My dealer literally has hundreds of PRS guitars to choose from. They are not all created equal. A few suck, a few are great, then there are all the ones in the middle. Just like any brand.
Thanks so much for answering my question! It really helps having that insight and direction to go. I'll see you at some open mic nights and jams around South Carolina!
Morning guys.. jumping in now..🤘
I 100% agree with Rhett on how he feels about PRS. I have tried a number of them over the years and just never connected with a PRS. EXCEPT....I did try their strat copy and I really liked it. But for whatever reason I'm just not drawn to PRS. But I also feel the same about Rickenbacker and also Les Pauls.
There are a few Mascos on Ebay. i saw one on reverb also. Great episode.
Great show guys.
I just recently found the Dipped in Tone podcasts.
Great topics and real world advice.
Cheers
: )
I agree on the brand chasing/purist thing with Rhett. Play what feels great to you. I'm sure the PRS's are great, no question about it. Owning 7 different brands of guitars I'm propably some kind of opposite to the "one brand player". 😀
In college, I played bass in the large jazz band, then guitar in the small combo as well. I had never played a jazz tune before in my life. It was terrifying, but also a lot of fun.
Hey guys, love the show. Let the PRS argument go!
EB volume w jacks on the side is a real old one. I've got one just like it.
These podcasts make working st a desk fun
Big thing on PRS with "all the same" is with modern internet shopping and people buying without putting hands on an instrument. "All the same" makes that sale without contact easier for the seller and the buyer. Love or hate it, it's good marketing for today's business.
In my late teens, I remember joining a work project that was about building a rehearsal space (floating room and what not).
When we were done, one of the community guys borrowed out his Marshall stack for the space. I was jamming some chords on guitar on a different amp, and he just started soloing over the chords and it sounded great. I was like HOW DID YOU DO THAT haha. One of the first times I played with a talented musician.
You know I heard Mitch Easter, yes REM producer and southern music legend, play a PRS custom 24 on the Every Dog Has It's Day Tour in 1988. Through his classic Matamp and a 412. Not nu metal. Not bro... and it haunted me for 30 years before I got one. A long search and it did not disappoint. And I got another one albeit a semi hollow and it did not disappoint. I still have a Ric, several teles and Strats I also love. Maybe it's context ... I don't associate PRS with perhaps what younger folks do...
PRS and Novo guitars elicit a similar response of loyalty and fan base.
I like my PRS, I like my Fender and I like my Charvel, all for different reasons. If it works for you, it’s a good guitar.
that PRS is the Chevy Avalanche of the guitar world
I totally get Rhett. I primarily play 3 single coil “S-shaped” guitars. I love my PRS Silver Sky, but if I found a Fender, Suhr, Nash, etc etc that played/sounded better, I’d grab it and switch to that. It’s a tool at the end of the day for me to gig and pay some bills. The fanboy-ness from any company is a little tired, but such is the internet!
I’d love to find a Tele or a Les Paul that spoke to me, as I love hearing others play them. I just haven’t found my particular one yet. I’m sure it’d coming at some point!
I was never a big PRS fan but I just bought a PRS standard 24-08 with no intention of buying it walking in. I was just messing around playing a bunch of different guitars from different brands and picked that one up and it was magic. The others of the same model in the shop were not even close. I think the idea of them being more consistent than other brands isn’t true. Rhett has made his mind up about them and that is fine but I don’t agree.
More PRS content! Less is not more, MORE is more!
One of the things that constantly helps me with playing with others is to go back to something a boss of mine said.
He was a lawyer (and I was in law school) and we were talking about the bar exam. 80% of people pass the bar. The passing score is basically a D. When was the last time I got a D in anything? Am I in the bottom 20% of my class? No one needs to get an A on the exam to be able to practice law.
Sure. There is a minimum skill level you’ll probably need just to get a gig. But that level is likely lower than you think. You don’t need to be a virtuoso in order to play most music. You “just” need to be competent
the Objectivity police. Gotta love 'em.
Hope there will be a video on your new amp from Carter's sounds like a paint peeler lol
I think PRS Guitars are possibly the most consistently well built guitars in current production. If I play a PRS "xyz" in one store, it will be very close to the same model in another store - excellent consistency. I grew up near PRS factory when it was in Annapolis, MD just getting started and I have always wanted one. I have never liked a PRS guitar enough to buy one - just not my thing. I would love to love and own a PRS because they are a work of art. As an artist/player/working man, it is just not my sound. Can't do it.
Such a nice rig. I give it 9 as well👌 too many pedals for my style but that’s basically a pro rig.
Would be cool if there was a short demo of the rigs to see how they get used but I’m sure it would be hard for most people to record something better than an iPhone quality clip. 😂
I wonder what a " direct into PA / IEMs" rig would dip as... 🙂
RE: jam nights. Been playing in local rock bands for 40 years and have never attended a jam session to sit in with "whoever". I hate to make a mistake in public and winging it on songs I don't know just isn't me. I guess I have no confidence in my improv ability.
BTW, I have a "Tony the Tiger" too. It's a PRS Studio with the same finish. Looks just like Zach's except for the pickups. I'm digging the nearfields for clean and the 58/15 LT for gain.
I've already listened to this as a podcast whilst working, now I need to come and watch it. What's wrong with me😢😅😊?!
Dipped In Tone is particularly great to watch when I am on Zwift
I’m with Rhett on the PRS, the only one I like aesthetically is the Santana signature because it’s shaped like a Gibson lp jr double cut. I actually have a cheaper Santana signature that I don’t play that often. But yeah, I had a while back a Tremonti signature and sold or traded it. Since then I acquired two more Gibsons, a new lp jr double cut and a goldtop tribute.
Rhett’s shill or the week looks a bit like one of those Bell and Howl film projectors, the ones used for the 385 by Walrus. I would looove to try that thing, it looks awesome!
I was thinking that myself- that pedal is really cool, though I think rhett has made an excellent purchase. I saw a you tube video of somebody playing fantastic slide through a similar ,adapted amp.A tweed with a slightly different character and tons of gain..Very nice...
In regards to the PRS talk at the end…I agree with Rhett. As a Marylander and a huge PRS fan I can say that they’re consistent in build quality but they just are very uninspiring to play. I have an old core model that I had refinished by a friend who was working there up until last year. It’s the only PRS that I’ve liked and it took awhile to find “the one” for me. I had played and bought several and they were all just meh. That goes with Gibson as well. I have one Les Paul in my collection that took me years to find and get along with. That being said the snobbery behind the “PRS bros” is accurate. Good for you to only own their stuff but I personally like variety in what I have and am not brand loyal. I have 2 Gibsons and the other 7 are different brands. Not bashing the PRS owners but their attitude can be very polarizing. That is all
Maybe it's the 25" scale length that divides so many people? These guitars are so wonderfully playable - even the (cheap) acoustic steelstrings...
Shout out to the Sparta Drive-In!
Just like people who love PRS know they can go into any shop and pick one up and they’ll like it, Rhett can be comfortable in knowing he could walk into any shop and try one and he won’t. Consistency has its upsides.
Most of vintage ES345’s were stereo with out of phase middle position.
I'm the dirty centrist here lol
I want a PRS. I think they're super cool and beautiful. But like Rhett I feel nothing when I play them lol just no inspiration. I end up just playing riffs I know instead of developing an idea.
I also find the hunt for the right example of a model fun. My tele has ruined other teles for me. My SG has ruined other SGs for me lol its kind of fun knowing those are connected to me in a way none at the store ever will be.
As a PRS player I can confirm that yes we are indeed pretty much assholes actually
This was a spicy one. Loved it. Never played a PRS and def would like to try one to see if it makes me feel something…or not
I’ve been playing in cover (and wedding/divorce, 😂) bands for over 30 years.
As a bassist, I’ve met a lot of guitarists (mostly lead players) who would fake a lot, I mean: a lot. Just lookin’ cool and play with high volume, sometimes in the wrong key. Same with hornplayers, but not so much: they tend to read all their parts.
I’ve had the same with rhythm guitar players: move their arms and look cool without toughing their strings in more difficult parts. They tend to touch their hair a lot...
Mostly, it’s the bassist and the keyplayer’s burden (if there is one) to know all the changes and the songs..., to save the singer(s) and the gig.
And, the last few years: singers and hornplayers started bringing their Ipads to read parts and lyrics during gigs. That’s just stupid: musicians lookin’ at their Ipad and the crowd lookin’ at their phones for 3 to 4 sets!
That’s no ly!
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Generalized Analogy Time!
Gibsons are a hot spouse in bed in the morning. If you put in the right effort to wake them up, you won’t be disappointed.
Fenders are a hot spouse dressed to the nines on a Saturday night and two shots ahead of you. If you put in the effort to keep up with their sass, and maybe fight a little, you'll enjoy the ride.
PRS guitars are a hot spouse that feeds you, organizes the house, takes the kids to and from school on time, and deals with the neighbors so you don’t have to.
The effort demanded on a Gibson or Fender is inspiring. But inspiration can also come from having all obstacles cleared out of your way, a la PRS.
Rhett… Join the Cult!!!
But seriously, the thing about PRSs being consistent is, to me, a condemnation of the other majors. If their quality control processes were consistent enough, you’d be able to pick up any Japanese or Mexican Strat and have the same experience, instead of each guitar being an experiment in assembly. Yes, I’m exaggerating, but still… the consistent quality of the different levels of PRS is something the other majors should envy and emulate. As for Novo and the other boutique folks - they do a great job hand-crafting small runs. They’re not the PRS audience.
I so need a Bassman!
If anyone knows better, please educate me, but the last stock vintage Gibson 345 with Varitone I had the pleasure of playing and spending some time with was stereo output wired. Plugging it in normally with a regular guitar cable only gave the neck pickup. To get the bridge pickup it required a stereo cable to separate outputs for each pickup. Attempting to sum them to mono made both pickups together out of phase. Kinda weird. If you ran the separate outputs into both channels of a vintage Fender Reverb amp, which were out of phase because reverb was only on one channel, they were in phase and sounded normal together. Anybody else know about this or am I totally wrong? It would be interesting to know how this guy’s guitar works or how he uses it. Maybe too much for this platform but when talking about vintage stereo guitars there’s some mystery worth sharing. It was an excellent guitar, but if I owned it I would have done away with the stereo wiring. I love Varitones though and I don’t think they’re appreciated enough.
PSR is the CrossFit of guitar.
Out here in Oklahoma you can be smoking in at a jam and an overweight farmer in overalls will come in and smoke everybody
The next time either or both of you guys are in the Nashville, TN music scene,...please look into a young up and coming singer songwriter, Macey Mack. She's from central FL and has played with a band named Slickwood. Trust me. You're welcome! She is a singing talent beyond belief and would benefit from a Rick Beato type to encourage her professional music career. She has true professional star power! Period.
Love these shows. I can kinda get Rhett's view on PRS. I started "testing" them out in guitar shops when they first came to the UK but always felt they "did nothing for me", despite being really well made for the cost. Fast forward a couple of decades and I have found a few PRS's that I do really enjoy, but not many, and it's an exception for me to pick up any PRS and think, "yes, that's for me!". I've often wondered if it's anything to do with the fact that I grew up on Fender and Gibson, which I often think of as my right and left hands. PRS seemed to be deliberately trying to invite a 3rd hand, that was neither left nor right. Scale length; half way between the other 2, fret radius; in between the other two, body shapes; a mix of the other two, neck carves; in between the other two, humbucker sounds; different from the other two (but not in a good way). I do think the new Pauls Guitar has the best PRS pickups they've ever developed though, and the Silver Sky is almost there...
Missed the point ,man.
agreed on all points
Masco gets talked about often on the Truth about Vintage Amp Podcast. There is not much to the conversion and they sound great as is .
Early Bassmans are like a Marshall? You don’t say
;)
If Rhett thinks the dipped rig should explore another company he'd hate my board 🤣 EHX all over it.
Fantastic board though, does it all and then some. Nothing sterile. All useful. 9.5. Needs a Jazzmaster
I want to know what Zach has done to win so many giveaways
Rhett missed a huge trick here not shilling his Nashvill Numbers course. Even if you're playing with people who don't know it, it'll help you pick up songs much easier, communicate them easier and fall in line with a ban quickly.
Have we done or requested this yet?
No slight on the show at all, really enjoying it, but just an observation, and possible 'tongue-in-cheek-gag'...
But, could you maybe post a counter for how many times Rhett adjusts his mic? I'm watching and it's like every few seconds theres a nervous twitch or something. Touch, touch, touched it, touched it again...
It might be a bit like clicking a ball point pen, and tapping on a table....
Anyway, still enjoying everything, and cant wait for the LP footage. :-)
Thank you from Yorkshire, UK
Ps. Rhett got a nice little name drop from Rick over on Justin Hawkins' channel, during their chat. Was an insightful conversation.
That contingent of PRS owners are like Triathletes. So nosed into every little detail of performance that they’ve forgotten how much enjoyment you can get out of just going for a ride
hey, monday morning
Hey Rhett, all of the big brands have that kind of "bro" fan base. The only reason you notice it more with PRS is because you are unusually honest (forna youtuber) with your opinion. If you spoke the same way about fender or gibson (or especially epiphone) you would see those bros get triggered just as easily.
A solid point, I just feel like PRS fanboys are the most vocal about their choice.
Consistency is great, but with the short scale and the pickup placement just makes them sorta odd to play, that's all...
It makes me laugh when people say there is no other guitar worth playing apart from guitar x do they ever realise guitars are subjective I hate Les Paul's but I know there a great guitar and i never call them but like I once said to a mate who plays because it don't fit me doesn't mean it won't fit you or anybody else I know I am repeating what Rhett said but it is true and the point needs ramming home
The worst gigs ever are almost always organized by people that don't know anything about live music. I played a gig once in a 100 degree parking lot with the entire band plugged into the same power strip run out the window of a restaurant. This was pitched to us as a "tent" gig. The tent was from KMart (8'x8') and covered half the drummer's kit. It was horrible.
Are we stil trying making black friday black friday again??
Do: try and get together with someone in the band to go over arrangements before the full audition
Don’t: Not learn the songs and drink a half a case of beer at the audition (learn from my mistakes)
Rhett got busted on by rude viewers for being a strymon boi now he doin the same damn thing 😅
Personally, I hate the headstock shape. That's all!
It's a myth that every PRS on the wall is perfect and interchangeable with the one next to it. While PRS does a vastly better job at QC than other scaled builders, PRS owners still have the find "the one" that speaks to them. I'm lucky to have found a handful that I'll never let go of. We're all searching for that moment of joy when we realize we can't walk out of the store without that guitar, no matter what brand you favor.
Exactly right. Even David Grissom has a handful of favourites of his own Dgt model. Of course he knows that the standard and consistency of PRS is great and he’s not gonna be disappointed pulling one off and shop wall anywhere he goes.
Now Shull shall shill
2:09 - 2:41 Dripped In Tone...
These guys are like if beavis and butthead became intelligent and talented.
That’s high praise
I will remind everyone that very time Rhett shits on flame maple tops…..he plays a pink sparkle flake relic offset. Let that sink in, he is such a hypocrite with the curly maple stuff.
There is this thing about prs that they supposedly make everything better than everybody else and that bothers me. Gibson makes a Les Paul but our les paul is better. Fender makes a strat but ours is better. Marshall makes a marshall but ours is better because it‘s jimi‘s amp. This is partly fault of the prs fanboys as rhett said but i think they do make that point themselves and it bothers me ngl
Just when you think you've heard the dumbest take...
Next you need to do "how to get subscribers" because I'm celebrating 10 years of a channel and have only 346 subs despite being pretty awesome actually. I've kind of given up, only uploaded a couple things in the last 18 months, but I have some covers that I SWEAR are better than the originals. So, how do you get subscribers? Some people take off right out the gate, and some have hundreds of videos and never ever grow. And don't say "talent" until you've first checked my content for a lack of talent.
I will now reply to my own comment hoping to raise it in the list.
I will now like my original comment, as well as my initial reply and this one as well, for the same reason as before.
Random guy’s two cents here…
There are far worse players (guitar, bass, voice, drums) that have way more reason to quit uploading.
You’re really good dude. If you’re still playing which I’m willing to bet you are, just post some quick and dirty covers maybe with just vocals and guitar. Even shorts. Constant little stuff might bring people to your full covers.