Not that many this time (about 3?). I've seen games with like 30 times more (yes near 90 draws prevented if you count 4 wheels for 3 opponents + maybe others)
I counted 4, maybe denied more by straight up stopping some wheels or draws. Now I want to try and make a deck with stuff like Maralen and Mindlock orb to make everyone unable to draw or search.
@@VVheeli I used to have a 60 card Sultai Maralen deck that forced you to search (theres a few search cards that don't have the 'may' clause) i'd get Ob Nixilis Unshackled into play, then force people to search for a land, Ob would trigger, then when Maralen's ability occurred i'd go and get a counterspell to stop whatever they tutored for 😁. The deck was janky as hell but the looks on their faces when they realised they couldn't just decline to search, that they were going to lose 3 from Maralen, 10 from Ob, lose their blocker and die to Ob in combat was priceless. Seeing as the deck ran Collective Voyage I also included a Mind Grind. Oh what's that? Everyone just went and got 10 lands? Cool. Mind Grind for 15 lands. Better hope you have enough left hun! 😈🤷♀️😆
@@Krajcik1964 Boring and pointless? First off, when playing Blue, you've got to pay attention and know what the counter and what to let through. That's anything but boring. When playing against Blue, you've got to trick the Blue players into wasting their counters on things you don't care so much about and slipping important things through. Secondly, without Blue nothing would stop combo decks from going off so it's hardly "near pointless".
@@Krajcik1964 What an odd comment to find on a cEDH video. The counter battles were amazing. As Ryan said to the prof, cEDH fights there battles on the stack, not the battlefield.
Great game! Loved the way Zach baited out 2 counters with Red Elemental Blast and Cyclonic Rift when he knew he could just attack the Narset anyway and combo off after.
It was! Reminds me if one of the most 'big brain' plays i've ever seen in a game. Neheb the Eternal deck got like a thousand mana and tried to fireball a Kess player using a Boseiju to force the damage through. In response the Kess player cast a Shaman's Trance and cast the Neheb player's own Wild Ricochet from their graveyard, killed the other player with the copy and rebounded the original back at the Neheb to win the game lmao. Was the ultimate Uno "No U" play I've ever seen 😆
I greatly enjoyed this video. I saw your interview with @tolariancommunitycollege and became more interested in cEDH and your videos. This game proved much of what you said and debunked many of the things I previously thought of cEDH. Thank you.
Hey that’s me! Making the crucial punt at the end! Kess....why must you betray me?! Seriously though....this was a super fun game, and super long. Thanks for making this into a video - that must have been a long time editing.
That is what we called high tier MTG with some misplay there and there, but it was a joy to watch an interactive game of magic where everyone had a go at it
Imo they're so good in CEDH since to avoid you to have card advantage your opponents need to stax themselves so their win cons get slowed down Pretty sure that this game would be over waaay quicker without this card lol
Worst part was seeing the Urza player not pay for the Rhystic Study Trigger w/ the Lotus Petal... Brandon should have remembered the Force of Will was on the top! If that Time Spiral would have resolved w/ Narset on the board, Urza would have pulled FAR ahead. - Not to mention get rid of the Demonic Consultation in hand...
Hey. I really enjoyed to see Kess on the board. It would be nice to see her more often. I have also check the deck which was playing Andrew and there's a mistake. He played Baral on 06:49 but its's not included in his decklist. I would be nice to see Mizzix of the Izmagnus in your next video(s). I'm looking forward for next videos from you. Regards, R
that was an awesome game and you guys did a great job keeping track of the stack and board state which is no small feat. i like the knucks between the two players with jace after taking narset down followed swiftly by a consult win
One thought for how to do it is to put a small counter for cards in hand in between life total and player name. But it’s just a thought, I appreciate all the awesome content and look forwards to the next season
@@jacobclements3652 I don't think its unfeasible for them to put a number on the video, more keeping track of how many cards are in each players hand at any time during the game
I loved this game. All the interaction and everyone pitching in to stop anyone pulling ahead. And a Flusterstorm stack wich is always fun to see. A question. What is the song you use for the episodes? Keep up the great games guys!
that probably was the most hilarious amount of interactions and coincidences - feels like there were more cards played by at least three different players than there were "unique" cards this game, especially that Studyspam...
Hi, love your content. I'd like you guys to consider adding the number of cards in hand for every player, maybe placing it after the name of the commander(for the players on the left and before the name for the players on the right) would be very helpfull
Thanks for the feedback. We are looking into hand size for season 5, but it's a logistical feat to track 4 players hands throughout these games sometimes.
To be honest, I think everyone just started to get confused regarding the stack at that point since Flusterstorm USUALLY would counter something. Basically, me thinks he simply panic'd or didn't have anything else to do on his turn and the commentator just got confused. Some degree of confusion did happen at any point, of that I'm convinced.
I would like to see a kykar cedh deck if that is even possible because in the netherlands at my local lgs we have a semi- competitive play group and i have a kykar deck but i would like to see how one of you guys would build it i am playing it as a jeskai ascendancy combo list with wheel package
Isn't there a misplay at 4:10? Zach casts the Top, doesn't have any lands to pay for the Rhystic Study that just got on the battlefield, doesn't crack the petal and Brandon doesn't draw a card. The same happens with Sam right after that too. Did everyone forget?
I’m a relatively new player, so I’m sure I’m missing something, but during Brandon’s upkeep @12:03 or so, Andrew plays Consultation and Brandon counters it with FoW. This triggers Sam’s Rhystic and he draws from this. During Brandon’s first Main Phase, he casts a Time Spiral and Sam draws from Rhystic again, hits a Force of Will, and counters the Spiral. If I’m not missing anything, shouldn’t Narset’s ability have prevented the second Rhystic draw this turn, thus preventing Sam from drawing the Force of Will and playing it?
I might be mistaken but didn’t he tutor for it in the end step before that turn so force of will was the top card. This means that the mistake was missing that first draw trigger you mentioned and not drawing an extra card?
@@deandreholmes3807 Sam did draw during my upkeep but it was from Andrew's Demonic Consultation. Even tho we missed the second draw, i totally should've cracked the lotus petal to pay for the rhystic tax there.
Everyone at the table: let them play a spell and I'll counter it. Player that cast spell: I'll counter your counter that try to counter the counter that will counter the counter of my spell. Next player: I counter that.
No, it's not. You can tell the table anything you want, (you could even lie). You cannot reveal what you see (you cannot physically show anyone the cards), but you can say if the table should prep for a flash hulk win or something else.
12:31 Brandon knew that Sam had Mystical Tutored for FoW at Andrew's end step; why didn't he pay for Rhystic Study (with Lotus Petal) to prevent him from drawing it to counter the Time Spiral? Seems like a misplay to me, but oh well. Really fun game and while Narset was definitely a pain the Rhystic Studies did so much work in taxing people and drawing cards. Also really highlights how powerful Blue is with access to cards like Gilded Drake, Twister, and of course the whole suite of Counterspells.
If I'm correct, that draw actually shouldn't have happened since Andrew didn't pay Sam's rhystic tax on the DC during my upkeep. But either way not cracking the petal there was a misplay on my part for sure
Pretty sure the narset doesn't prevent the win via lab man as the controller of the draw effect chooses which replacement effect is used and obviously they would choose to win the game
The Kenrith list y'all have up isn't quite accurate. That was my deck being borrowed by Sam that day, and I thought I'd tell you it was one card off your s03e01 list. Link: decks.tcgplayer.com/magic/freeform/playing-with-power-mtg/s03e01---kenrith/1361201 I changed Aven Mindcensor into Gilded Drake, with no other changes.
I (Ryan) have an affinity for cat mats. This one was from Star City Games. They have a whole collection of different famous characters and art in the form of animals. Check out Tasi-purr, the Tasigur variant. It's one of my favorites.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I'll definitely have to check it out! I love cats so, in magic, I try to build as much around Legendary Cats as possible lol. I'm currently turning my Arahbo tribal in Marisi tribal, with support from some other creatures. My favorite combo in the deck is Challenger Troll+Gruul War Chant. It makes all of your creature's with power 4 or greater unblockable.
11:30 I don't think Andrew really had to pay for Rhystic since Sam already drew a card from Dack that turn; since Narset was on the field Sam wouldn't have been allowed to draw anyway if I'm looking at this right
Kess’s ability states that if it would be put into the grave yard this turn, exile it instead. Reversal puts it back into your hand. If you cast it again from your hand, it’s a different instance of that spell with no previous attachments or clauses. He won’t have to exile it.
You can! Since lands don't have a color (and therefore a color identity), you can have fetchlands in mono-colored decks. The only thing that counts towards a color identity in commander are the pips (mana symbols) in mana costs and activated abilities. Any mentions of things like forest or mountain, etc. don't count towards color identity.
If multiple replacement effects would affect the same action, the active player chooses which to apply. This lets you win with Labman Jace through an opposing Notion Thief. Unlike Notion Thief, Narset's ability is a static effect that prevents the draw (which Jace would replace) from happening.
but why did he use the pact of negation on the red elemental blast if the opponent had the creatures on the field to destroy narset? it was a wasted counter that could have been saved for later, narset was dead anyway.
Still need to understand the differencies between the decks. Also, I wish there was a rule in Commander for which you can't win without casting your Commander once.
Why do people always cast mana crypt on a turn when they don't use it? Especially when there's no threat of discard. 3 damage isn't much, but why even risk it?
Because there is always a threat of discard in CEDH. At any time, someone can put 3 mana together and cast timetwister/Windfall/Wheel of Fortune. Then you've lost your mana crypt. The trade off of protecting your mana crypt from being discarded being only 3 damage if you (maybe) lose on your upkeep. It's worth the trade.
How can Brandon have "Scalding Tarn" in his deck - is it not blue and red? is it because it is a fetch land and doesn't tap for either of those colors? I'm new to the format.
No worries! Welcome! So basically a color identity is assigned via the pips (the mana icons) in either the casting cost or on the card text. References to things like land types don't count towards a color identity. So you can have fetchlands in your deck because lands are colorless and don't have mana pips. Good question! Welcome!
There are definitely non-blue CEDH decks. The most efficient interaction and most powerful cards come from blue, so that's why they are frequently seen in this format.
*Decklists*
Breya: bit.ly/S04E04-Breya
Kenrith: bit.ly/S04E04-Kenrith
Kess: bit.ly/S04E04-Kess
Urza: bit.ly/S04E04-Urza
Most Valuable Card: bit.ly/S04E04-MVC
Links arent working for me for some reason.
InstaBlaster.
*Anyone at the table literally does anything*
Everyone else- "COUNTER SPELL"
Yeah that is my least favorite thing about cEDH
Who doesn't like counter warsa
@@moxopal675 theyre fun to watch
My favorite part about cedh
@@TheTrueTimbo with powerlevels like this, games would go like 3 turns without counters
The final stats should have a "Draws prevented due to Narset" total.
Not that many this time (about 3?). I've seen games with like 30 times more (yes near 90 draws prevented if you count 4 wheels for 3 opponents + maybe others)
I counted 4, maybe denied more by straight up stopping some wheels or draws.
Now I want to try and make a deck with stuff like Maralen and Mindlock orb to make everyone unable to draw or search.
@@VVheeli I used to have a 60 card Sultai Maralen deck that forced you to search (theres a few search cards that don't have the 'may' clause) i'd get Ob Nixilis Unshackled into play, then force people to search for a land, Ob would trigger, then when Maralen's ability occurred i'd go and get a counterspell to stop whatever they tutored for 😁. The deck was janky as hell but the looks on their faces when they realised they couldn't just decline to search, that they were going to lose 3 from Maralen, 10 from Ob, lose their blocker and die to Ob in combat was priceless. Seeing as the deck ran Collective Voyage I also included a Mind Grind. Oh what's that? Everyone just went and got 10 lands? Cool. Mind Grind for 15 lands. Better hope you have enough left hun! 😈🤷♀️😆
I'm in this video and that makes me happy.
Hey there! Great piloting! Hope to play with you again soon!
This game is the perfect representation of blue. XD
You mean boring, near pointless and it's only way to win is total BS? Agreed.
@@Krajcik1964 Boring and pointless? First off, when playing Blue, you've got to pay attention and know what the counter and what to let through. That's anything but boring. When playing against Blue, you've got to trick the Blue players into wasting their counters on things you don't care so much about and slipping important things through. Secondly, without Blue nothing would stop combo decks from going off so it's hardly "near pointless".
@@Krajcik1964 What an odd comment to find on a cEDH video. The counter battles were amazing. As Ryan said to the prof, cEDH fights there battles on the stack, not the battlefield.
@@Krajcik1964 i was wondering til the end how the hell these scum decks win then saw :(
"But he was caught off guard by Brendan's ability to use his graveyard"
The very same Brendan who stole his Kess eheh
Great game! Loved the way Zach baited out 2 counters with Red Elemental Blast and Cyclonic Rift when he knew he could just attack the Narset anyway and combo off after.
That was a really, really good play to use Dack Fayden under Narset's static ability that way.
It was! Reminds me if one of the most 'big brain' plays i've ever seen in a game. Neheb the Eternal deck got like a thousand mana and tried to fireball a Kess player using a Boseiju to force the damage through. In response the Kess player cast a Shaman's Trance and cast the Neheb player's own Wild Ricochet from their graveyard, killed the other player with the copy and rebounded the original back at the Neheb to win the game lmao. Was the ultimate Uno "No U" play I've ever seen 😆
I greatly enjoyed this video. I saw your interview with @tolariancommunitycollege and became more interested in cEDH and your videos. This game proved much of what you said and debunked many of the things I previously thought of cEDH. Thank you.
When you convince everyone to counter rhystic study so you can play rhystic study
Big brain plays right there.
And no one shall trust a word he says at that table ever again lol.
Best possible video right after the interview with Prof. You really do fight your battles on the stack!
Hey that’s me! Making the crucial punt at the end! Kess....why must you betray me?!
Seriously though....this was a super fun game, and super long. Thanks for making this into a video - that must have been a long time editing.
@13:30 - That fist bump cracked me up.
Fantastic game as usual guys, well done. I loved how intense the counter wars got here.
He knew about the FoW on the top of Sam's deck, why not use the Lotus Petal to pay for the Rhystic Study?
Because if he sacrife Lotus petal mox Opal wouldnt have Metallkraft for other Turns
Maybe because of that
@@teco8835 Even so that was a bad move. He knew the counter was there, the setback would be absurd. It was the wrong move. IMO.
He should have cast timetwister instead of time spiral since he knew about the fow. It was too greedy.
@@andrevpedro maybe he thought he hast a turn more time and can win then
@@teco8835 That doesn't matter, it was a misplay. He should have sac'd the Lotus Petal.
All those Lotuses, Moxen, Timetwisters, Time Spirals, Force of Wills...feels like watching Vintage, so beautiful!
That is what we called high tier MTG with some misplay there and there, but it was a joy to watch an interactive game of magic where everyone had a go at it
All those Rhystic Studies and Mystic Remoras made me laugh a lot XD Great game!
Imo they're so good in CEDH since to avoid you to have card advantage your opponents need to stax themselves so their win cons get slowed down
Pretty sure that this game would be over waaay quicker without this card lol
Worst part was seeing the Urza player not pay for the Rhystic Study Trigger w/ the Lotus Petal... Brandon should have remembered the Force of Will was on the top! If that Time Spiral would have resolved w/ Narset on the board, Urza would have pulled FAR ahead. - Not to mention get rid of the Demonic Consultation in hand...
Hey. I really enjoyed to see Kess on the board. It would be nice to see her more often. I have also check the deck which was playing Andrew and there's a mistake. He played Baral on 06:49 but its's not included in his decklist.
I would be nice to see Mizzix of the Izmagnus in your next video(s). I'm looking forward for next videos from you.
Regards,
R
that was an awesome game and you guys did a great job keeping track of the stack and board state which is no small feat. i like the knucks between the two players with jace after taking narset down followed swiftly by a consult win
That was one of the most intense matches I've seen
Oh yea, friday is best! I hope this video blows up! Cuz after the great video with the Professor, I feel like the community is more aware of cEDH.
You Guys saved my day with this Video :)
Keep the great cEDH content coming
This was such a fun game! Hope to play with you all again sometime!
Could you show us how many cards are in everyone's hands?
that's a big logistical feat. We are looking into it for Season 5.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG i know it's hard work, no pressure. Looking forward to season 5!
One thought for how to do it is to put a small counter for cards in hand in between life total and player name. But it’s just a thought, I appreciate all the awesome content and look forwards to the next season
@@jacobclements3652 I don't think its unfeasible for them to put a number on the video, more keeping track of how many cards are in each players hand at any time during the game
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG If you could keep a counter of how many cards in hand, it would give us good insight to who is winning.
I loved this game. All the interaction and everyone pitching in to stop anyone pulling ahead.
And a Flusterstorm stack wich is always fun to see.
A question. What is the song you use for the episodes?
Keep up the great games guys!
that probably was the most hilarious amount of interactions and coincidences - feels like there were more cards played by at least three different players than there were "unique" cards this game, especially that Studyspam...
Looking forward to more games like this ! This game was really a blast to watch .
Hi, love your content.
I'd like you guys to consider adding the number of cards in hand for every player, maybe placing it after the name of the commander(for the players on the left and before the name for the players on the right) would be very helpfull
Thanks for the feedback. We are looking into hand size for season 5, but it's a logistical feat to track 4 players hands throughout these games sometimes.
Can you imagine how amazing these battles would be as cinematics?
It seems like every cEDH deck I see played nowadays is demonic consultation :/ still a pretty neat game. A looot of interaction
Really cool that a creature from the beggining of the game enable the win
Can't wait to see what Kess does this game
She did and awful lot, just not for the Kess player!
6:35 But Flusterstorm doesnt counter enchantments, what is sam concerned about?
To be honest, I think everyone just started to get confused regarding the stack at that point since Flusterstorm USUALLY would counter something.
Basically, me thinks he simply panic'd or didn't have anything else to do on his turn and the commentator just got confused.
Some degree of confusion did happen at any point, of that I'm convinced.
This channel is my new addiction.
I would like to see a kykar cedh deck if that is even possible because in the netherlands at my local lgs we have a semi- competitive play group and i have a kykar deck but i would like to see how one of you guys would build it i am playing it as a jeskai ascendancy combo list with wheel package
We are looking into getting a Kykar deck on the channel in the near future.
UA-cam knows I love this shit so your video was at the top of my recommendations when I opened the app.
Video starts at 1:13
Holy counter spells batman
I love yalls content! Glad you're making it
I love watching 4 different deck play the almost exact same way
Nice to see a really intense battle. You should do a video with (TT)Fish Hulk x4!! See how comes comes out on top! :D
Isn't there a misplay at 4:10? Zach casts the Top, doesn't have any lands to pay for the Rhystic Study that just got on the battlefield, doesn't crack the petal and Brandon doesn't draw a card. The same happens with Sam right after that too. Did everyone forget?
These are the kind of games I missed. All blue players, TON of battles on the stack. Love it
What an awesome game! Taking the battle to the stack
I’m a relatively new player, so I’m sure I’m missing something, but during Brandon’s upkeep @12:03 or so, Andrew plays Consultation and Brandon counters it with FoW. This triggers Sam’s Rhystic and he draws from this.
During Brandon’s first Main Phase, he casts a Time Spiral and Sam draws from Rhystic again, hits a Force of Will, and counters the Spiral.
If I’m not missing anything, shouldn’t Narset’s ability have prevented the second Rhystic draw this turn, thus preventing Sam from drawing the Force of Will and playing it?
I might be mistaken but didn’t he tutor for it in the end step before that turn so force of will was the top card. This means that the mistake was missing that first draw trigger you mentioned and not drawing an extra card?
In the video, it looks to me that Sam draws from Brandon’s Force of Will (upkeep) and from Brandon’s Time Spiral (main phase).
@@deandreholmes3807 Sam did draw during my upkeep but it was from Andrew's Demonic Consultation. Even tho we missed the second draw, i totally should've cracked the lotus petal to pay for the rhystic tax there.
New challenge for those deck builders, no blue challenge.
Happy Friday!
Everyone at the table: let them play a spell and I'll counter it.
Player that cast spell: I'll counter your counter that try to counter the counter that will counter the counter of my spell.
Next player: I counter that.
Great video like always! Question, is it unsportsmanlike if Zach did see the combo pieces to Flash Hulk and told the table?
No, it's not. You can tell the table anything you want, (you could even lie). You cannot reveal what you see (you cannot physically show anyone the cards), but you can say if the table should prep for a flash hulk win or something else.
"Narset is dead!" *fistbump*
It’s always the guy that flies under the radar to win
I love watching these videos
This was a great game to watch!
It was very interesting because all the deck ran simmilar cards :)
12:31 Brandon knew that Sam had Mystical Tutored for FoW at Andrew's end step; why didn't he pay for Rhystic Study (with Lotus Petal) to prevent him from drawing it to counter the Time Spiral? Seems like a misplay to me, but oh well.
Really fun game and while Narset was definitely a pain the Rhystic Studies did so much work in taxing people and drawing cards. Also really highlights how powerful Blue is with access to cards like Gilded Drake, Twister, and of course the whole suite of Counterspells.
If I'm correct, that draw actually shouldn't have happened since Andrew didn't pay Sam's rhystic tax on the DC during my upkeep. But either way not cracking the petal there was a misplay on my part for sure
That was a damn good game!
Pretty sure the narset doesn't prevent the win via lab man as the controller of the draw effect chooses which replacement effect is used and obviously they would choose to win the game
There was a missplay when Zach casted Mana Crypt, as triggers of Rhystic Study never went to the stack.
The Kenrith list y'all have up isn't quite accurate. That was my deck being borrowed by Sam that day, and I thought I'd tell you it was one card off your s03e01 list.
Link: decks.tcgplayer.com/magic/freeform/playing-with-power-mtg/s03e01---kenrith/1361201
I changed Aven Mindcensor into Gilded Drake, with no other changes.
Everybody like LET ME DRAW SOME CARDS
Where did you get that kitty cat playmat? I need that for when I play my cats tribal deck lol that's the best thing I've ever seen!
I (Ryan) have an affinity for cat mats. This one was from Star City Games. They have a whole collection of different famous characters and art in the form of animals. Check out Tasi-purr, the Tasigur variant. It's one of my favorites.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I'll definitely have to check it out! I love cats so, in magic, I try to build as much around Legendary Cats as possible lol. I'm currently turning my Arahbo tribal in Marisi tribal, with support from some other creatures. My favorite combo in the deck is Challenger Troll+Gruul War Chant. It makes all of your creature's with power 4 or greater unblockable.
Finally! Been wanting more content lol
11:30 I don't think Andrew really had to pay for Rhystic since Sam already drew a card from Dack that turn; since Narset was on the field Sam wouldn't have been allowed to draw anyway if I'm looking at this right
Best part of the week!
Cast Rystic Study, Cast Rystic Study, Cast Rystic Study, Cast Rystic Study Cast Mystic Ramora!
This was some hot cEDH gameplay
Is there any chance that we would see a Teferi, Temporal Archmage? It's been a while since I saw someone playing him in cEDH.
We have a Teferi deck on our channel. We also have some in the backlog we can bring out as well.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG cool!
at 11:20 hadn't Sam drawn off rhystic earlier that turn, so shouldn't have drawn off Deck at all?
Two players going for the jace labman Win, awesome! And gilded drake keeps on Messing games xD
Hello! I have a quick question. I play Derevi atm and was wondering what stax commander you think is the best one?
Grand Arbiter Augustine IV is a good stax commander. So is Lavinia, Azorius Renegade.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I was originally going to play Lavinia but derevi looked super fun lol, thanks for the input!
@@anthonyrodriguez9232 The Azorious commanders don't have very good win conditions and have a difficult time closing out the game.
Could you Tell the prices of each Deck at the beginning of your Videos?
Would bei really intresting👍
Nevermind Just saw the links
I'm only 8 minutes in and this game has given me cancer. I love it.
this is the most scuffed game of commander i have ever seen, amazing to watch though
I LOVE STACK WARS!!!
Shouldn't casting Mana Crypt trigger both Rhystic Studies?
would it be nice to know if people are paying the study triggers? it could get messy thou
How did the Urza player get the mystical tutor back off of narset reversul? Because he was kess' flashback ability. Wouldn't of been exaled
Kess’s ability states that if it would be put into the grave yard this turn, exile it instead. Reversal puts it back into your hand. If you cast it again from your hand, it’s a different instance of that spell with no previous attachments or clauses. He won’t have to exile it.
Just thinking that there is £20,000 worth of cardboard on that table and that's really messing with me😂
So wait... you can have Scalding Tarn in a Mono Blue EDH?
You can! Since lands don't have a color (and therefore a color identity), you can have fetchlands in mono-colored decks. The only thing that counts towards a color identity in commander are the pips (mana symbols) in mana costs and activated abilities. Any mentions of things like forest or mountain, etc. don't count towards color identity.
By the way that's a new Force of Will count record at 8 played this game, timetwister is silly like that yeah 8 FoW's were played congrats team
great game
very blue
Sam what is your hulk package you get for the win? I dont see the line of play from your decklist
Doesn't narset not affect Jace winning off his +1 because it's a replacement effect?
You still need to draw the card to win the game. Narset prevents that.
If multiple replacement effects would affect the same action, the active player chooses which to apply. This lets you win with Labman Jace through an opposing Notion Thief. Unlike Notion Thief, Narset's ability is a static effect that prevents the draw (which Jace would replace) from happening.
but why did he use the pact of negation on the red elemental blast if the opponent had the creatures on the field to destroy narset? it was a wasted counter that could have been saved for later, narset was dead anyway.
Man demonic consultation is just too easy to use! Unbelievable. Great game though!
Great game 👍
Still need to understand the differencies between the decks. Also, I wish there was a rule in Commander for which you can't win without casting your Commander once.
This was a fun game
1hr 60min and 9 turns, and people say cEDH is a fast turn 2-4 win.
What a rhystic game!
Any of you guys coming to the GP in Reno?
Why do people always cast mana crypt on a turn when they don't use it? Especially when there's no threat of discard. 3 damage isn't much, but why even risk it?
Because there is always a threat of discard in CEDH. At any time, someone can put 3 mana together and cast timetwister/Windfall/Wheel of Fortune. Then you've lost your mana crypt. The trade off of protecting your mana crypt from being discarded being only 3 damage if you (maybe) lose on your upkeep. It's worth the trade.
How can Brandon have "Scalding Tarn" in his deck - is it not blue and red? is it because it is a fetch land and doesn't tap for either of those colors? I'm new to the format.
No worries! Welcome! So basically a color identity is assigned via the pips (the mana icons) in either the casting cost or on the card text. References to things like land types don't count towards a color identity. So you can have fetchlands in your deck because lands are colorless and don't have mana pips. Good question! Welcome!
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Thank you! This is nice to know.
I'd like to see a game without blue. Or would that not be cedh anymore?
There are definitely non-blue CEDH decks. The most efficient interaction and most powerful cards come from blue, so that's why they are frequently seen in this format.
Hey are you guys going to magicfest Reno?
No sorry. Our convention schedule is in the description.
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why did i expect something other than counterspell wars from 4 blue decks? lol
At 10.40, zach plays Mox Opal and "pays both rhystics" i don't see 2 lands or mana artifacts tapped for that..... Or narration is wrong or wtf?
Could Atraxa Superfriends be competitive? There is plenty of distruption on planeswalkers... hard to find a pretty quick to achieve win con :/
Unfortunately I dont think so. Too many compact combos that win before you could get a doubling season to stick and then a PW
Yeah... Doubling season makes planeswalkers work in EDH, but they still seem to be much too slow... back to infect I guess :/