Where Do Friar Clothes Come From?
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Someone is wearing my habit. I was an OFM in formation but left before final vows. My charism was to be married and have a family, but I've tried to live out the Franciscan charism within my family life.
Have you considered joining the 3rd order? I an in the final stages of initial formation. I should be taking my profession in March or April
The Third Order is awesome, I wish there was a group close to me but there isn’t, there might be one in your area.
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3rd Order (Freemason) 🤔
I suppose fr Casey, there's no need to spruce up your appearance or attire to impress a lady or gent .
@@MichaelThompson-jq3zf no Catholics can’t join the Freemasons
I'm a protestant (Baptist). But as I'm going through a lot right now I find your videos very comforting. Its nice to watch a brother in Christ make nice wholesome content. Pray for me please
I pray that you find peace and healing soon. We all go through seasons in life. You are not alone in this journey!
@@andykline396 Thank you
My Protestant Brother you will be in my prayers. God is with you in all things, and with Him there is nothing that is insurmountable.
I just said a prayer for you, but felt silly asking "Lord God, please help broccolisword". Somehow, I think He got the message. Peace be with you.
I have been through *alot* of good old fashion suffering lately. Let's pray for each other, shall we? Some goofy dude named BagOtriX praying for a goofy dude named Broccolisword (and vice versa) has got to put a smile on Gods face. I mean, the comedy writes itself. Love ya brother.
Two weeks ago I was in Assisi and saw St Francis robe! It was patched up and humble and it was such a witness to the Franciscan way!
Did you worship it?
Your sheep icon is very appropriate
I am not religious at all, but your words about not owning even the clothes on your back was inspiring. Even though I am not a believer, I appreciate your channel and the knowledge you bestow.
The former wearer really does sound like a legend. What an amazing life of service he lived.
I am a member (founding member, actually) of St. Francis of Assisi parish in San Antonio TX. The legacy and spirit of St. Francis is constantly around us. In our city are several old Spanish missions dating from the 1700s that remain, except for the Alamo, active parishes staffed by Franciscans. Occasionally, the friars will come to visit our parish and it is a marvelous experience to welcome them.
As a Brazilian, I was particularly touched by this story. God bless you, Father, as he blessed the one who had the robe before.
The religious brothers/sisters in my community don't wear habits at all, they just wear regular clothes like everyone else. I asked a Dominican why he doesn't wear his habit, he said it stains too easily. I get it, but I wish more religious brothers/sisters would wear the habit rather than pants-suits and a short haircut.
I'm an amateur violinist. I own a violin that I love very much that was made in Germany between 1910 and 1920. Because it was made so long ago (though really not that long ago in the grand scheme of things), I know that other people played and loved this instrument, and I hope that other people will play and love it after I die. This is different from a habit that you don't own, but it's similar: I've sometimes wondered about my violin's previous owners, how it got from Germany to Maine, USA where I chose it and brought it to New Brunswick, Canada, what stories this instrument would tell if it could talk. It's inspired me to research exactly what Germany was like during the 1910s: no surprise, but things weren't great, and to me, the fact that people were still making beautiful instruments in such an awful time is an incredibly hopeful thing.
Something similar happens to me with old fashion cast iron cookware. My wife thinks funny of my taste for cast iron cookware, but I love to cook and bake food for the family and friends, something about making an effort to cook or bake something that makes people happy when they´re hungry. And knowing that there are some cast iron cookware from half a milennia ago or older that can still be used to cook just amazes me. I don´t own any cookware that old, but the prospect that the ones I bought can last well into the lifes of my great great grandsons or longer is wow.
Ordained on the Feast of St. Francis, I’ve been a member of a community without a habit for 40 years. We are beginning to rediscover our original habit and I thank for this video.
I think I've probably mentioned this in your comments before, but the most important thing I have ever been taught was when my former pastor said in a homily, "your life doesn't belong to you."
You live this so radically, and we keep you in our prayers always.
Your comment about shopping second hand is a great idea. I'm sure I've got things at a charity shop that were out of the wardrobe of someone who passed away - it's good to think about the continuation of items. When I get something which has a small hole, or missing button, torn seam, etc., I mend it, and when I pass it on to another charity, it may make the item useful again to someone else. Do you mend your own habit, Father Casey?
What an absolute honour it must be to wear that Habit.
I can testify to it being a Franciscan tradition. When I was in the Felicians (who are Third Order Franciscans), I was getting ready to enter novitiate. I elected to wear a habit and so I was fitted for one "dress" habit that I would receive at investiture and then I was given access to a large collection of habits worn by sisters who went to the big motherhouse in the sky. I would have had my one dress habit for special occasions and then a few daily habits and a couple "work" habits that could get jacked up without too much guilt.
Big motherhouse in the sky. . .love that!
On top of all those reasons listed, wearing a habit is an effective evangelistic tool. It probably elicits a lot of questions by curious onlookers, and that can spawn interesting, and even life changing conversations for those who ask such questions about the habit. Aside from this, as someone who does not live a consecrated life, I admire the simplicity that adhering to just wearing the habit brings to ones life. It frees the wearer from the burdens of vanity that most of us are shackled with.
As a deacon I wear my clerical collar while attending community events. It helps people see how we fit into 'normal' situations
Thank you, Fr. Casey! A follow up video might be necessary on Franciscan funeral traditions. Are Franciscan priests buried in alb, cincture, stole, and chasuable? How are the brothers buried who were not ordained? Interesting questions sparked by a fascinating video.
This is the most beautiful and humbling story I have ever heard... what a beautiful tradition!
I'm just wondering how are the Friars buried. What do they wear in their coffins if their habit is given to someone else?
I really needed to hear this video. Its true sometimes we seem to stray from our walk with God just by slowly imperceptibly drifting away without even being conscious of it. This video and its message was a reminder. Thank you.
@@jayduran9374 Romans 3:23
Fr. Casey, another point is that the habit was based on the clothing of the poor people of the time the order was founded. Look at St. Teresa of Kolkata’s sisters wearing saris, or the garb St. Elizabeth Ann Seaton’s widow’s garb worn by the Sisters of Charity. Also, as a TOR I use the breviary of a sister who went to God. Before I wrote my name in the book I added ”,pray for us” after her name.
Well said father Casey. A habit is a witness in the church.
Questions for a follow-up, maybe. Who makes habits? Do you do your own mending? How do you decide when a habit is too far gone for further wear & do you just put it in the trash? Who gets a brand new habit? Is there a habit storage & distribution system between the previous wearer & the new one?
Rags turn old clothes in to rags. Get a rag bag. You can use them for making patches, cleaning up cat vomit, never just put anything in the trash
I just could not stop thinking about how younger brothers wear their oldest brother's clothes.
That concept of detachment that the Brothers are given at the time of their vows: "From now on, call nothing your own" is something we all could benefit from. Because you're right, they're only ours for a limited time.
Watching from the Philippines.
I love the simplicity of the Franciscan habit, while those of the Dominicans has great color combination (B&W) ❤️
Love this. Way to honor a legacy while creating your own. We all leave a legacy by what we say and do. Thanks Fr. Casey!
As a Brazilian, is cool to know the story of this other friar. Glad to know he was a blessing to my country.
I think my great grandfather named my grandmother something different than what her mom wanted at the baptismal ceremony. My grandmother is 99 yrs old (born the same year as Myles, who passed down your habit, and that is actually her maiden name!!).
The name wars. . .in Mexico woman traditionally remain at home and receive herbal treatments and other attentions from the women folk in their family. The father frequently makes his way off to the Registry Office baby in arms and picks up a name on the way. . .a lady on the arm of a friend in front of the Registry suggested "Rosalinda" to my friend's dad, and that was it!
As a Brazillian myself, absolutelly loved this dude! Why won't you come here too!❤
I can certainly appreciate carrying the legacy of others. In the Order of St. Lazarus I was invested with the fighting habit (cloak) of a deceased member. It was truly an honor and to learn about my predecessor and his legacy to the order.
Fr. Casey, If the robe fits wear it! And what and awesome Franciscan to follow in this garment. God bless you and I am thankful for all the videos you do 🙏💞
Always uplifting and spiritual. We need more priests like you in our church
Thank you Fr Casey. My mom just passed away last week; and as we siblings were going through her stuff, it felt a bit strange to think about wearing her clothes. But I did wear a jacket and a watch at her funeral mass to honor her in some small way. She was a person of limited means but rich in family & those whom she welcomed into her circle of friendship. I will now have a different perspective when I wear the couple it items that she wore. ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏
i still miss my (Franciscan) habit everyday , youve the gift of oration, a light shining bright.
It takes great dedication to live such a lifestyle, mad props to the consecrated.
Very thought provoking. I want to make 2024 the year of declutter. My home is bursting with things and I am finding it hard to manage it. May God give me strength and health and diligence in this coming year to make more room more Him by getting rid of all the extras! ❤
Thanks for wearing a habit, Father. So many religious don't want to dress like one and that's so sad!
Love these little snippets of information. What a man St Francis of Assisi was. Fr Casey is the kind of person you'd approach when you're lost in a new place.
As a fellow Brazilian follower, it just made my day hearing that the habit you use was once in Brazil 🇧🇷!
Thrift stores are pretty good. I am a teenager and shop at them all the time!
This is why I Love Franciscans. They try their best to live like St. Francis, who's only objective was to be close to Jesus. I saw my priest in the group picture. I had to pause it, but I found him. Along with several other friars. God bless our Franciscans of the newly formed Province of our Lady of Guadalupe.
That was a fantastic video, truly amazing! Some day, another brother will be telling your story as the man who had the habit previously. You mentioned that the mother didn't go to the baptism back in the day, only the father, and that it was a story for another day; I truly hope you DO make that story, because I had never heard of that and that sounds fascinating as well!
As Catholics we baptize our babies asap. Traditionally, in poor countries infant mortality rates were high so baptism was quickly arranged. Traditionally new mothers were not to attend mass until after their special blessing (a type of purification ceremony) which occurs usually after postpartum flow ceases. It is an old tradition which is not really practiced except by request. So the father took the baby to be baptized while the mother waited for her blessing.
"I got my robe from a desd guy! Isn't that odd?"
I also shop from Goodwill.
What an amazing and beautiful tradition.
Father, I am watching your video's from Europe, The Netherlands. As a Roman-Catholic born and babtised in 1966, I am still searching. I have seen other American Catholic channels. I wanted to experience Catholisism from other parts in the World, and American Channels, well there are lot of them.
But yours I sticked with. As it is truly universal. This video in particular showes that to me. I think it is a beautiful Fransican tradition i did not know about it. Thank you with all my hart.
I like the short hooded tunic Cistercians wear for labour work .
As a Brazilian who's been watching your videos since you had professed your solemn vows, I'd suggest you to learn Brazilian Portuguese, as the first owner of this habit could! :-) man! congrats! you're videos are amazing! I love them all! Specially I admire who beautifully you protect Pope Francis from the crazy citizens from your country who consider our Pope a heretic. Keep up being this great Franciscan Friar and Priest you are!!!!!
Thank you, Father!
I had an uncle who was an OFM. I did not know that the brown-habit Franciscans did this beautiful thing.
What does OFM stand for?
OFM stands for Order of Friars Minor 😊
A very lovely way to reuse what isn't worn out or useless. I know my mother had issues with younger nuns in the 70s who didn't wear a habit. She still tells the story of picking my brothers up from Catholic school and thinking why isn't someone sending that female student home for dress code violation. She said she was shocked to learn that was a nun dressed like she was going to the disco with go-go boots and a mini skirt.
The sisters who completely discarded any type of habit did a great disservice to their congregation, eg St Joseph Sisters, Grey Sisters of the Immaculate Conception, among others.
They are headed to extinction.
I wear some of my late father’s clothes ,coats ,shirts ,boots etc, RIP Dad .
I like the story about the priest naming Sylvester. When my sister was born, there was complications, and my parents were concerned, so they called the priest. When he got there, he decided to give her his name for her middle name. So she was baptized, Jennifer Ramona, but my parents were not happy about that so her birth certificate is Jennifer Ann. We still tease her about that to this day.
Jewish belief changes a persons's name so God will take pity and give them healing and a new start. Better idea?
Bravo Father
Keep up the good works
From an old priest entering his Golden Jubilee
Pax+
re the baptism story, quite a lot of priests used to do this all the time, changing or adding the name of a saint - different from the name(s) proposed by the parents. Many would add Mary to the name of girls and boys, and a favourite saint of theirs. seems amazing today. Mind you, I am sad that people don't choose patron saint names for their children. we have started asking parents if they would like to add a patron saints name for their child prior to the baptism.
I am a Quaker with a deep respect for our history and traditions (and those of others) and I sometimes wish we still wore the old Plain Dress that distinguished us. I see the value in the witness of the habit and also the effect it has on you as a person.
Oh hey, another Friend. Always nice to cross paths.
@@squiddwizzard8850 Greetings Friend
I have 4 friends of OFM. One othem is a bishop in Pangkalpinang Indonesia. Others work in parishes, orphan home and school of theology.
Another friend is a member of OFMCap. He is a lecture.
They are all amazing.
Father, you have a big habit to fill, and you fill it well! Thank you for this video. It is inspiring.
I recently invoked St. Francis, of Assisi. My friend's cat was dying. He intervened, in the name, of our Lord Jesus Christ. Gave us all comfort and a renewed spiritual grow. They are protestant (they both prayed, too St. Francis.) and I am a Roman Catholic. Out of all, of this. Came the knowledge, of the invocation. Too all, of the Blessed Saints. To help us all, in this world.
Thank you for this video…you’re right, it’s a different point of view and we need to be more humble. My husband has told me, though family heirlooms are important, eventually, it will be trash or others will see items differently.
I think the logic of "no need to make new ones" makes it less weird.
And then we have the Oblates of Mary Immaculate that pass down a cross, which could be suuuuper old. :O
Sometimes when I'm praying the Hours I wonder who owned my little Psalter before me. Maybe it belonged to someone who did a lot of mission work and traveled frequently and needed a small compact prayer book to travel with. I got it from a used book retailer, so there's no way of ever knowing. But maybe someday I'll make like memories with it and then pass it on to someone else one day.
It was Tom Riddle's prayer book
Great title brother! And great video. I appreciate the upload 🙌🏽
Thank you for sharing. I always wondered about the Franciscan habit.
I spent my childhood attending Mass at the parish with the Franciscan monastery. Now, as a diocesan priest, there was a time when I wanted to become a Franciscan and wear that tunic."
So awesome. Its miniscule in comparison, but its the same way I felt when I got my eagle globe and anchor.
Thanks Fr. Casey for your innovative videos. You rightly deserve the Habit you are wearing. God bless us all, Amen.
Very interesting the non-standard aspect of the habits. . .never would have suspected so much color and cloth variation. . .and patching, which can be an art if they are to hold. The Mercy sisters who taught me originally reversed their pleats when they started to look shabby. A Benedictine sister once told me that they had to keep their habits respectable in order to "not give rise to scandal." Don't know about that one!
I think this can also be a great reflection on how our lives are not our own, but it is Gods, just as the habit is not yours. I think its also great for remembering our mortality (memento mori)
Amazing. Had no idea of habit being passed down. God bless you Fr. Casey; you are incredible. Wondering how often you wash your habit, though?
This is extremely powerful. The franciscan ideology is so humbling and beautiful to see that we truly have nothing, God is the only one that truly does own everything. Seeing St. Francis' robes is awe inspiring. I can only hope to live so humbly and this has inspired me to be as such. I only have a faint semblance as for my calling but seeing this really does help me see what i need to do to grow in god's love and have more guidence
There have been a simillar thing among some Buddhist monks. All their robes are required to be made as a patchwork. But some monks used to make their robes out of found burial clothes, from decaying corpses. But nowadays in most parts of the world (except few places in India and Tibet) nobody leaves dead bodies in open cemeteries. They wash and boil the clothes and boil again with a herbal tincture that gives its signature color.
Even our virtues (good habits) are borrowed from Jesus our Lord and Mary our mother.
Beautiful witness. Thank you Fr Casey!✝️❤🌎🌍🌏
That’s a great motivation for you to go to Brazil.
This is so beautiful.
I attended Bishop Timon high school on the south side of Buffalo, N.Y. It's an OFM operated institution. Never heard about this.
So you can have more than one Habit. Who makes new Habits?
The story of the previous guy was amazing!
Now please say a rosary for the one who used to wear that habit. God bless you and Mary keep you. 😇
Great story Father. We all have legacies to live up to. My philosophy of education professors mentor was Ivan Illich. Every time I write an article, chapter or book I think of that legacy. It gives me pause.
Fr. Casey, this was meaningful for me, an OSF.
This bro started wearing a robe, became somewhat of a habit 😂
Most of what I buy belonged to another. I often wonder who those people are. There is something like being a link in a chain about owning another’s possession.
Absolutely brilliant.
This is so interesting... I feel humbled by those facts.
Thank you so much Father for sharing this...this is gospel in action...you inspire ne and tge example of Fr Sylvester made a lasting impression on my soul...God bless you
Beautiful story thank you
My Dad was a minister and he was buried in his robes .
Wow. You wear the garment of a legend. That's awesome!
I think Fr. Casey lives up to the legacy of Fr. Myles. They both are evangelizing and helping bring others to the faith, just the way the mission is executed is a little different
Me encanta ver sus vídeos Fray, me cuesta mucho entender porque hablo muy poco el inglés, pero entendí que esta comentando sobre su habito, lo que significa para ustedes, y que una de las reglas de la orden es no poseer nada propio, me encanta el espíritu franciscano y siento devoción por el Pobrecito de Asis que nos enseña a ser humildes y sencillos sin apegos a nada.
Dios lo bendiga Fray y que el Espíritu Santo le dé sabiduría para seguir con trabajo en las redes sociales que tanto bien hacen.
Thanks for this video. The message was really something I needed to hear and if you can, please pray for my discernment on my vocations. God bless
This is a wonderful video. It shows humility but realism about other lives.
Canon law says that when a man or woman joins a religious order they are too put off (or put away) their worldly clothes and put on the clothes (or habit) of the order they joined. Unfortunately there are nuns and priests whose religious orders don’t do this and they wear clothes like everyone else (hopefully not ripped jeans…lol) which is sad because they can’t be distinguished from the worldly. Someone once told me that when priests wear their Roman collars and black suits a lot of people feel uncomfortable around them. My answer was too bad.
My question is how old is your habit? Where does it originate from? I think it would be cool to find out who wore it before you and how far back it goes.
Do you wear anything under the habit?
Dear Brother, you made a very good point! And why not wear what others did before us?! A nice symbol. In monastic society you carry on tradition and customs, and symbolically the weight of christs cross and what it stands for. In the non monastic life, some more than others carry on other traditions and customs, some not quite the weight of christs cross but maybe that of a long family line or a prominent name. A friend of mine does, when I spoke to him, we philosophically agreed that we are but custodians of what we inherit, which can be a burden, certainly a task, but we do have some choices as humans, so we can improve, and we are free to decide what to carry on and what we might drop when it has proven to be a burden. Carry on the good and worthy and do not hesitate to leave behind what proved not to be and finally add, what is appropriate and good to you so you might leave this world to those who follow you in a better form that you did. So traditions, cusotms and other things should be ever evolving to be able to proof themselves over and through time. And even outside monastic life, I (ocassionally) and gladly do wear (some) clothes which I literally inherited (and would wear more if I'd fit sizewise). It was quite normal, just some years ago to pass on clothes within the family, was it for size, was it for children who grew out of them, was it from grandparents who passed or was it from sibling to sibling, it used to be normal. I think more people and families should revive this custom, a good custom as you keep it within your monastic family so well! God be with you!
I LOVE this video (as I do with most videos, if not all). Your lifestyle is just loving and inspiring and even though you may think it's a small thing, I'm happy that this platform that is there anyways, is also used by you and others spreading this message and spreading light. The platform is here, so why not use it for good, right? I'm really glad I discovered father Patrick and you 😊
The thumbnail I voted for wasn't chosen. I have never been more heartbroken in my life.