while i agree with certain criticisms, mainly on the overused yharnam look throughout the whole game. Saying parrying ruins a bossfight is like calling gwyn bad because he can be parried. If i said malekith was a bad fight because i used a summon or i used firecrackers on any sekiro boss and called them all bad it would be pointless. A bossfights mechanics, themes, and gameplay has nothing to do with a mechanic that, if someone really didnt like or had a problem with, can be chosen to ignore or use sparingly. I also think that most bloodborne veterans have mastered parries by now and thats the simple reason why. On my first playthrough and maybe even second i couldnt remember mastering every parry window. thats just my opinion tho.
Thank you for your opinion. Yeah you're absolutely right. I think my main criticism comes from the fact that with firecrackers and the sorry Gwyn is the fact that Gwyn is the only boss that can be parried and there is more variety than just the firecrackers. But each side arm, including things like augur of Ebrietas staggers hunter bosses for a parry. If so many weren't able to have that done, I would accept it's like Gwyn. But yeah I see where you're coming from.
difference is it takes much more skill and practice to parry and avoid gwyns attacks, becuz parrying bosses in elden souls is harder than bb, the thing is with bb parries, they are just way too exploitable.
@@Lucivius27 not to mention its ranged. u can parry a boss 5 meters away from u if u know hes gonna lunge at u. trivialized most parryable beast bosses. 1st time through bb, papa G beat my ass a good 5 times or so, then i remembered parrying and i raped him instantly with barely any vials lost, im not even saying ima a good player, i just mindlessly shot him each time he does those 20-hit combo flurries and it always works XD, no skill or timing needed really.
Is it bad criticism if you have to purposely limit yourself from utilizing certain tools the game clearly put in place for you to use in their full potential? It is your job as the game designer to adjust and balance things so that players would be pulled towards fun and not cheese strategy.
Although I wouldn't agree with this kind of video title "Mediocre disappointment", I know, the UA-cam algorithm is pretty hard at times to reach more people, I get the hustle, that said, I think BB is far from a mediocre disappointment, it is a phenomenal game but I do agree with many of the points raised in this video, it's a reality that I think a lot of BB fans can't come to terms with, or will have to harshly wake up to it when the inevitable remaster releases and people play it again and see it for what it is after refreshing their memories a bit, the game is one of my favorites, but I do think it is a bit too overrated by some fans. MY ADVICE: Change your video's title because you make a lot of great critique points that I think people rarely mention, because you're getting dislike bombed over an otherwise good video.
Thank you. I would. But unfortunately the final line tied into the title. Bec you’re right. I wanted Bloodborne is overrated. But that was taken believe it or not. But yeah if I could I would. But I don’t think I can.
@@Smabbott Now that I've watched more than half of the video, I disagree about ER's bosses having unavoidable attacks, there's literally none, delayed attacks are there to punish the age old Dark Souls players mentalities of just panic rolling, I also disagree about gun parries being too powerful, I mean all Souls games had too OP stuff in them, it's an optional thing.
@@HeyTarnished the main point of unavoidable attack comes from Malenia Waterfowl dance. I can dodge the move with the run in the circle strat, but that is not the intended way to dodge that move. It comes out at any time when her health goes lower than 75% and to this day still is an unavoidable attack unless you run instinctively before it begins. And with the parry thing, yep I agree it’s an optional move to make so it’s completely down to preference. But like the video says, it’s a core mechanic of the game. The example given not using jump attacks in Elden Ring. It makes no sense not to. But thank you for the comment and I’ve changed the title. Just wanted to let you know you were the reason. Real got me thinking. Thank you for that, I think this title is more fair, but also gets across the point still. Seriously thank you🙂
Its funny, because I agree with you saying that using the gun trivializes alot in this game, but at the same time I genuinely have a ton of fun fighting the bosses when only using the gun sparingly, I cant say that your way of playing is invalid because the gun is there to be used, however I personally feel the best way to experience the bosses and fights is to get like one or two parries with the gun off per fight. My experience also differs from yours greatly as I didn't have many problems with the blood starved beast at all, as I always managed to figure out what actions were telegraphing what attack and didn't need to buff or parry (much) at all. hell in one of the optional chalice dungeons there's a rematch with the beast and I beat it first try, this isnt to flex, but I suppose it goes to show just how subjective your experience with bloodborne can be based on your playstyle. I also noticed you backstepped alot in the clips fighting the beast, which is something the game actively tries to disuade you from doing to encourage a more aggressive approach as most bosses attacks follow you into the backstep, whereas sidestepping or dodging towards it would put you in a much better position and allow you to get some hits in if timed well. I also really liked the Vicar Amelia fight, and while yes, alot of the attacks can be described as "Swipe left, swipe right, swipe down" I feel there's a bit more variety there than what you gave credit, for example, she can scratch the ground infront of you, she can do a thunderclap that does massive damage yet is telegraphed far in advance, she can retreat while swiping the ground infront of her, dealing damage to you if you get caught, she can heal herself, and even the moves that do fall under the "swipe left swipe right" description have some variety, as the wind-up and paragraph can be different along with her combining both of her arms to swipe both left and right, achieving basic motor function, great job Amelia! As for shadows of Yharnam, yeah Its not one of my favorites, I wouldn't say its a bad fight, but it can be fucking tedious. however using exploits to kill bosses of any kind, unless they're absolutely insufferable, just feels cheap to me and I'm not exactly sure that using one to consistently kill a boss, regardless if seasoned players say to do it or not, is more fault of the player or the developer, as I feel you should fight the boss legit once or twice before making a concrete analysis, however I cant 100% blame anyone for just taking an opportunity that was given to them, its human nature. I'm not saying your way of playing the game is wrong, as, again, the gun is meant to be used, however I'm not sure they intended you to use it as much as you did. Does this make your experience with the game objectively bad? No. Does it make my experience with the game objectively bad? No. However if you do ever try the game again, I'd recommend trying to limit the use of the gun and see how that goes, maybe it will improve the experience for you? as I personally found it much more rewarding and gratifying to learn the bosses moves and swiftly dodge around them rather than gun spam. When looking at your video, seeing Rom, The one, and Micolash lined up one after another isn't a good look, however one thing I have to say about The one in particular is that I didnt even realize the witches healed him, nor did I realize you could actually kill the witches, or you could stunlock him, so thanks for letting me know. I'm more forgiving of Rom than most because I feel lore wise its a great fight and its clear that you are in the wrong the more you fight her, you're fighting something that wants to protect you, but you just dont know it, hell she doesnt even attack you until her second phase. it inspires a feeling of confliction, knowing that you have to kill this thing to proceed, but also knowing that by killing this thing, you're dooming alot of people. however gameplay wise, yeah its tedious and annoying. I'd say Micolash is worse just because its pure tediousness but I can see why you'd call Rom the worst. I feel that going to do some of the optional stuff inbetween Rom and The one reborn smoothens the experience alot, however that's just my experience. I love this game, its up there with my favorites, a solid 9/10 for me. but its nice to hear a differing perspective sometimes, as while I feel the sea of praise the game has gotten is deserved, the lack of more critical looks into the game makes it feel like a game within an echochamber of circlejerkers rather than, well, a game. Sorry for the wall of text, I'm very autistic when it comes to writing about this stuff but its because I enjoy sharing my opinions on stuff I'm passionate about, if you wanna mock me for that then thats fine lol, I'd do the same, its just nice to sit down and talk sometimes
I’d never mock you for sharing your opinions. Thank you very much for the nice comment. Seriously sometimes I’ll just get a wall of text talking about the fact that I have no idea what I’m talking about. But yours is really balanced and I appreciate that thank you. When you say about the Blood starved beast, yeah I do back step a lot of the time. That’s definitely on me, the reason being is the poison build up. Despite the rallying system being implemented here, idk taking damage from constant poison is really tedious to me. Yeah you’re right with Shadows of Yharnam. It’s not a problem per say, due to it being a basic AI point. My qualm is it’s being used to avoid the snake move. Because the snake move is really random. Rom’s lore is so good. Yeah I completely agree, the reasoning behind it is so inter and compelling. But the fight sucks😂 it’s like Bed of Chaos as that is also a terrible fight and great lore. Yeah I would. But unfortunately, I don’t real enjoy playing Bloodborne. It’s just the full package to me just isn’t as compelling as other From games. But yeah, I find people’s opinions of this game really interesting, because if you say literally anything negative on it, they go nuts. Like you said a circle jerk. But idk if I’d ever go back. I think I’ve got enough out of Bloodbath now. I’ve played it three times. But thank you for your comment. I love to hear people’s takes when they’re not just, shut up you’re wrong. So seriously thank you. Have a good day!
@@Smabbott fair enough, thanks for the response. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it as much as other from titles, as I genuinely believe it's a really great game, but I'm not gonna force you to like something you've played 3 times and clearly just don't like it that much. I'm just glad you gave it a fair shake rather than just posting a review after rage quitting to the BSB. Even if I don't agree with some of your points and opinions, it's clear those points and opinions came from wanting to enjoy the game as much as some other people do. As for the poison, I get that, usually by the time I've gotten to old yharnam I've invested a fair amount in hp so the poison doesn't bother me as much as others but if you're going for a pure strength or bloodtinge build I can understand why that would be considered tedious. Take it easy, hopefully the next game you take a crack at will impress you just as much as bloodborne impressed me.
@@Rottingwood thanks! So far it really has. Playing Lies of P atm. So good! And yeah I think Bloodborne is a good game, that’s the one part of the video some people don’t think I do. But I do. It’s just imo not as good. But I love the fact tagged you love the game. Take it easy Boss.
I love souls games, and I don’t like Elden Ring or Bloodborne. I understand why I don’t like Elden ring, but I can’t figure out what’s wrong with bloodborne, I just don’t like playing it
Good video, but if the main argument is that all the bosses play the same then wouldn’t that technically be the case for dark souls? The way you kill bosses in those games is be waiting while blocking and some dodging. Also, I don’t think the parry mechanic makes a boss fight bad. If anything is rewarding players, who have gotten the timings down and know the weaknesses of said bosses, but that also goes back into the weaknesses issue you were point thing towards earlier, so that one makes sense. I do appreciate the alternate perspective though and I do wish there were more bosses that weren’t super staggerable to encourage more strategic gameplay but you could say it has that in knowing when to dodge away to avoid getting hit.
Yeah I agree with the fact that Dark Souls could be viewed in that way with your input. But it's more to do with the bosses input. Because all Bosses will play the same from the player's point of view. But I think the thing in which the Dark Souls series, Elden Ring and Sekiro have which Bloodborne just doesn't is the change in animations. The animations of bell gargoyles and something like Iron Golem have enough variety in the animations to stand out on their own. However, the rabid beast obviously has different animations from each boss, but it doesn't feel enough of a change to be considered a completely different boss imo, but again this is a subjective point. But yeah, I get where you're coming from.
@@Smabbott yeah it’s like a similar model and same idea going for it so I get that. I guess it might’ve just not fit with the lore but more radical change between beast fights would have been nice.
@@speinz9430 yeah. The one thing I want to get across is the game is still good. A lot of people have seen what I put (mainly thumbnail) and think I hate the game. No I think the game is good. I just don't think it's as good as the world says😂
@@Smabbott sorry if I took it a little personally. Bloodborne is special to me mainly because everybody says that the souls games are art forms which I didn’t believe until I played Bloodborne. I understand why you don’t like it don’t worry.
@@speinz9430 nah man not at all. No offense given, trust. It's good to be passionate about stuff bro. Yeah my favourite is Sekiro. But that doesn't have as strong as a following. Probably due to the lack of customisation. But yeah bro you good🙂
Combat is great, hunter fights fun, but the grinding for vials drove me crazy. I would love to have a option to restore vials at bon fires because i would love to go back and finish the game.
Great video! As a BloodBorne glaz- I mean fan I of course had bias when watching this video and the only other Soulsborne game I’ve played is DS3, so keep that in mind. But I have some opinions to share. First of all I think the level design is great! Yes there’s tons of shortcuts and having a lantern right outside the boss room would be nice but it doesn’t feel like the game’s trying to replicate the feeling you get when returning to firelink shrine. Yes some levels might feel a bit similar, but I don’t know I think the levels are still different from each other and you mentioned that you just wanted to get to the end of the level to experience the boss, but I don’t really feel like that (except forbidden woods, nightmare frontier and nightmare of Mensis, okay that’s like three levels but still) and I found there were not a lot of annoying enemies in BloodBorne, I found a lot of the enemies in DS3 to be annoying and I just ran past a lot of them, while yes personal preference I really hate the shield enemies in DS3 there’s like one in every area that has the healthbar of a boss and waiting for them to attack or trying to circle around them is just not fun I really hate those enemiesI and I also found a lot of the enemies to have really annoying combos like the irithyll undead knights(?) But you’re opinion on parrying… yeah I also feel like parrying is overpowered. I don’t want to just say: git gud to people I don’t agree with but if you find parries to be too tempting… I don’t know what to say. Like I’m sorry if I’m sounding condescending but it kinda sounds like a you problem? Sorry, I don’t know how to phrase this better. Also finally someone that doesn’t instantly hate Mergo’s wet nurse because it’s “too easy”. Yeah I just wanted to say that. Also I hope you’ve beaten Laurence! I never really struggled with him as much as I’ve struggled with Orphan of Kos or defiled watchdog (worst boss in the entire game) but that doesn’t make me hate him less I think he’s the worst boss in the game, excluding chalice dungeons. Otherwise if you haven’t, maybe try using the transformed church pick and wack him on his arms after he’s finished with a combo… second phase just hope and pray. While I don’t agree with a lot of the takes in this video, it was interesting to see some problems other people have with the game and while I do think the game falls off after the mid-point and that the game has tons of problems, it’s still probably my favorite game!
bloodborne is ruined by overhype and DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER people really say bloodborne has the best boss line up and best areas but half of the bosses have the same move set more than half of the areas have the same look all the enemies act the same AMAZING COMBAT but nothing fun to fight the cpu pvp fights are harder than half of the bosses amazing combat but weapons are few and out the few only about 4 of them is good the base game is just bad Ik it was gonna be mediocre when a UA-camr titled his video BLOODBORNE THE BEST SOUSL GAME and the first thing he says is how the lore is better than the boss fights… the dlc really saved this game but never call this game better than ds1,DS3,er,sekiro over a perfect dlc if you have to buy something to make the game great doesn’t make it perfect!
Now let me tell you what bb does great lore amazing perfect dlc very few but the few good boss fights are perfect everything looks soooo cool and depressing amazing mechanics and fighting the characters are cooler than the fight the scenes is amazing the thing is they milk this so much where it gets repetitive bb lore is literally better than the game ☹️
@@xcxmafai I agree with the point that BB DOES NOT have the best boss line ups. Like even as a big BB fan, you have to gaslight yourself really hard in order to believe that. Also I find that while there are only about ~20 weapons, they’re all viable, yes there’s tons of weapons better than most others, but it’s not like there’s a broken straight sword in this game (or whatever that super weak sword is called) and I don’t have like 100 weapons in my inventory that I’ll never use because they were dropped by random hollows! Still, it does suck that there’s no respec(?) and that you can’t even wield certain weapons without the right stats!
I have some other new thoughts: First of all I find saying the areas all blend into each other… with DS3 on the thumbnail feels… kinda hypocritical? Like they don’t look as similar as some areas in BB, but they are still all grey areas and comparing the beginning of Hemwick to forbidden woods, feels like comparing farron keel to crucifixion woods. Same with enemies, every area has hollows in them in DS3. Also if only there was a giant obstacle in the Shadows of Yharnam fight which you could hide behind (pssst, there’s a giant tombstone in the arena) Also I’ve not heard many people hate on shadows, I honestly think it’s a great gank fight
For the map design, it may not have had the best "wow" moments, but it easily had the best shortcuts or secret areas that blew me away when I found them. It did the best it could for it's limitations it set for itself. It makes sense that you don't like BB and love Sekiro, because it's the complete opposite for me. Sekiro is the worst Souls game I've played and I didn't even finish it. Saying it's wrong for BB to be so hyped as a masterpiece is the same as people like you that hype Sekiro as the greatest game and call it "perfection". People have different opinions, and if it's being pushed that BB is a masterpiece, well then that just means that most people believe that. So there's nothing wrong with that being the normal view of the game. I'm also very tired of people comparing this game to newer games like ER. OF COURSE a game that came out 8 years later, where they've grown and learned from mistakes would be better. It's like saying Uncharted is a bad game because the 4th is a much improved version. There's still people that run around and say Majora's Mask is the greatest game ever made, knowing full well that it's completely unplayable by today's standards. Is something no longer a masterpiece just because it becomes outdated? That's the real question.
Not at all. And you’re right, it is a personal preference of what constitutes as a masterpiece. But mainly the points made can be like you said applied for any product. But in terms of ER, it does things which are better than Bloodborne and others. In fact no it doesn’t. The only thing it does better than anything else is the open world. Which as you can understand is a fool’s defence. What’s important to note is that a masterpiece is never confined to the time it releases. But the sheer volume of people who state that there is nothing wrong with Bloodborne is rather strange to me. When parts which are criticised in other entries aren’t appropriately dealt the same hand in BB. But I think it’s more to do with people loving the atmosphere that it allows people to suspend their disbelief. After all, I’m not perfect in this matter. My favourite Bioshock game is the first, despite the fact it plays the worst, has a bad second half. But the atmosphere makes it a masterpiece in my eyes. So I get it. But when there are portions which are wrong with a game I feel they should be called out. Sekiro isn’t perfection. But the combat is. It has missteps like the demon of hatred which doesn’t work with its combat system, suiting more to BB with its design. But the animation similarities within the bosses of BB make the game feel stale. Now this can be a subjective point. But it is still a point which can be made with concrete evidence with how the animations are not varied enough to truly be distinguishable from one another when fighting a beast. Through similar wind ups, anticipation and reaction as well as follow throughs of moves appear to blend too much between each boss. With straight up terrible bosses like TOR or Mikolash there is a case to be made. There is no problem with calling something a masterpiece. But there is a problem with people shutting you down when you have genuine points to make. I don’t mind people having an opinion. But I believe it to be ludicrous to accept something is a masterpiece just because a majority say it to be. But an interesting take you present. Btw this wasn’t trying to get at you. I just love these exchanges. Thanks for the comment.
@@Smabbott The atmosphere and feel of something making you blind to it's flaws or love it more, is just a logical conclusion. A game is sound design, world design, combat, and story. Most of these videos about the flaws of BB are ALL about the bosses or mechanics. Ignoring that the other aspects are 10/10s and attract certain people who already have a bias going into a game with this setting. If you love medieval games, you will be more likely to buy them and give them a higher rating than someone who doesn't, solely based on that fact. BB was the first ever game soundtrack I listened to on repeat and even set to my ring tone. The sound effects and atmosphere were perfect. So ya, I'm willing to ignore the small flaws in a boss design or flaws that are subjective like trick weapons or the vial system, when the rest of the game is a 10/10. Christopher Nolan movies like Tenet are a great example of this. Most people walked out of there without even knowing what happened. Yet the acting, visuals, and music were so great that they enjoyed it none the less.
@@tlothompson6935 Fair play. That’s a great way to look at things and I admire that way of thinking. I appreciate what you’re saying with the aspect being a 10/10. Some 10/10s have flaws which I can admit. But the difference being when someone calls something flawless when it’s not, like you said is a subjective opinion. But if we accept that as definitive then what’s the point of even talking about this? But yes, I completely get the point of the Tenet argument. And you’re quite right. Just out of curiosity did you like Tenet? Because you’re right, I consider that film brilliant despite the fact of not understanding everything about the third act, but I would not call it flawless. But yes, it’s a very interesting way of looking at things.
@@Smabbott I love all of Christopher Nolan's films. The way his films are shot, the tense atmosphere, etc. are all perfect in my eyes. Ya, I'd never say BB is flawless. I know the weak points are SOME of the bosses. Same as the other souls games, but everything it is has makes up for it.
Btw, the lore, the scenery, the concepts and monsters design are masterpiece. Bloodborne has impressive gameplay, legendary soundtrack and sound design, it's truly scary. But it's the from software game that I just don't have... fun, ya know
@@Smabbott It's weird, ya know? After 2 years I'm playing again and man. I got more stressed, confused and frustrated. Maybe it is the Elden Ring influence (i'm playing it also). But i'm replaying DS2 and Sekiro too, lol. I'm in a souls phase. Maybe I'm depressed #jk
I feel more attached to Bloodborne than Elden Ring and dark souls mostly because I'm not much into the dark fantasy aesthetic and the faster paced combat is something I enjoyed more and it just felt refreshing from playing Elden Ring and the dark souls trilogy
Yeah the aesthetic of Bloodborne is untouched when it comes to From's catalogue. There's nothing else like it. Yeah, I myself am the same. I find gothic more interesting than fantasy in some circumstances. But how the levels are designed in Dark Souls makes Dark Fantasy feel brilliant. Bloodborne nails gothic. But to me it gets a bit samey. Thanks for the comment.
ds3 is just as fast as bb, and elden ring is even faster considering u regen stamina much faster than bb, i prefer bbs combat over ds3s, but elden ring and sekiro take the cake as the best fromsoft combat so far, with sekiro on top for me.
disagreed with bbs aesthetic being untouched, i think ds1 and elden ring are by far better aesthetically and feels like they put much more effort, to say bloodborne gets samey is a laughable understatement, the entire game can be summarized as 30 hours grey corridors, rooms, churches/caste spires and like 40 million copy pasted coffins and gravestones, it nails gothic sure, but if bb fanboys actually read lovecraft (most of them didnt) they would realize theres way more to gothic atmosphere then just what bb had to offer, it needed WAAAY more areas like hamlet, hemwick and cainhurst, bb fanboys call that thematic consistency, i call it unrealized and uncreative. overall im confident in saying it took fromsoft the least effort to make bbs environments in comparison to any other from game when it comes to creativity, variety and art needed to make them@@Smabbott
@@AhmadAlmillibb’s areas is similar to one another because it’s the setting, some areas set in the game just happens to be similar to each other because it’s the location and time period. Like who knows how big Yharnam really is.
To call this video a lesson in fundamentally misunderstanding a game from start to finish would be an understatement to the unfiltered egregiousness of the recounting of your experience I just watched. Attempting to dismantle this review top to bottom would lead way to a repetitiveness equal to that of the video itself. So instead I'll focus solely on what I found most nonsensical. Predominantly, your obsession with the gun. You shoddily attempt to refute the "just don't use it as much" argument, but none of the points you put forth come close to persuading me against that notion. There's an argument to be made that Fromsoft failed in balancing both the blood vial and bullet system. The idea was clearly to make these both finite to balance out how busted they are respectively. During my first play through (Keep in mind Bloodborne was also my first souls game), I never stopped to explicitly grind blood vials or bullets, yet always had enough to manage. You claim that only seasoned players will be able to ration their blood vials, but I believe the game does at good job at teaching the player to work around the systems even on their very first play through, while also supplying the player with enough of each. So my first question would be where the hell are you getting all these bullets? If you spam the gun so much how do you have so many at all times? I'd say there's more overlap than you let on between, say, someone playing through Elden Ring and spending more time looking up god builds on UA-cam than actually playing the game because they one shot every boss, and how you approached Bloodborne. From Software has always given the player the tools to make their games piss easy, a key competent in their design philosophy is letting the player play however they desire, key word being desire. The combat of every. Single. Souls game can be "ruined to your liking" if you want to ruin it. Before Elden Ring I would've just said Fromsoft has little talent when it comes to balancing their games, but Elden Ring for me cemented this as a Fromsoft quirk, as 2 years and 10 patches later we've yet to see a single notable PVE balance change, despite it being, depending on how you look at it, by far their worst game in regards to balancing. Looking back at it it's quite clear Fromsoft would rather respect how the player chooses to play than enforce ANY regulations. In Dark Souls 1 If you really want to, you can farm souls for 10 hours and one shot the entire game. From cannot account for how every player chooses to approach their games and make every single path engaging, if they designed these games to be fun with any possible play style the overall quality would drop significantly. "But it's a core gameplay mechanic!!" So is magic in Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1, and Dark Souls 2. Half the damn classes in the character creator for those games start you out with a magic build, and magic in all three of those games is far more busted, and far more compromising to the overall experience than the gun. In Bloodborne, choosing to two hand your weapon is also a core game play mechanic, but if you were to play the game obsessing over that instead, this video would be 5 minutes long and somehow even more silly. This leads me to the worst, most hilarious part of this video (outside of the conclusion), being the section on Gehrman. Listening to you whine about how badly you ruined the fight by your own volition while trying to make it seem like the games fault just about encompasses everything wrong with this review. Just because the game gives you less options doesn't automatically mean you need to play, not only the worst way objectively, but the way you also clearly find the most unfun for yourself. "The appropriate way to play Bloodborne" doesn't really exist, and even if it did it definitely wouldn't be spam parrying every boss, it'd be however you personally enjoy and find most satisfying, which is clearly not that. "If you remove the gun, Bloodborne's identity is changed fundamentally" this simply isn't true, instead what you mean to say is that if you didn't go out of your way to hyper-fixate on a specific part of the game's combat that you don't even enjoy it would be a fundamentally different game for YOU specifically. "It's on the cover" "It's like the stabilizers on a bike" all these quotes serve as is further proof of an unexplainable inherit obligation you feel that you NEED to use the gun. An obligation I didn't feel when I played the game, an obligation none of my friends felt when they played it, and an obligation the hundreds of thousands of people who have Lady Maria and Gehrman in their top 10 Fromsoft bosses also clearly didn't feel. It's a little sad how there isn't much left of this review outside of parrying. But I'll touch on some of your non gun related critiques of the bosses. Plain and simple, you have no idea how to fight Bloodstarved Beast, and clearly didn't care to learn based off how you quit the game after it killed you. In all the footage you showed you're dodging away, which is exactly how you get caught by most of its attacks, it's a boss you absolutely cannot play passively against. "Even when I was spamming dodge I still got stunlocked" in every single souls game, hell, in most games with a dodge mechanic, spamming it gets you stunlocked, when knocked to the ground it is crucial to time your getting back up, especially if you're choosing to play the game with such low health like you're doing in the video. Every other complaint you have I interpret to be centered around the one dimensional nature of the boss roster, while I agree Bloodborne has some weak fights, I feel a majority of your experiences can be attributed to instead a one dimensional play style. Dodge backwards > Spam gun > Visceral > Dodge backwards > Get Hit > Blood vial > Spam gun > Visceral. A majority of the clips are just this. I'm the furthest thing from a Fromsoft gatekeeper, if you enjoy it, I have no problem with however you choose to play the game. But if you're going to expedite to the furthest end of the spectrum of how little fun you can POSSIBLY have, I can't help but grimace a little. Maybe I'll go over any remaining absurd statements like all the enemies and areas being too similar in a follow up comment. But for now I've been writing for wayyy too long.
Difference being that the gun is in every class rather than a few like in Dark Souls and yes it is fundamentally part of the Bloodborne experience. You can sit there and say it isn’t. But it is. Everyone uses the gun to parry hunter fights. I never said this was the appropriate way to play the game. As I say right after to use the gun sparingly. But unfortunately it’s like playing AC6 and slightly tweaking your build. Once you start, you can’t tell when to stop as the flow of gameplay has changed completely. Same with rallying, to the Blood Starved Beast fight, I dodge backwards because he has a rapid attack combo which poisons you on hit. The side step will take you around to the back of the boss due to its distance where you’ll hit it from behind. That’s just boring to me. Not engaging with the fight is what that does essentially. Considering the first video on YT when you type in Blood Starved beast fight has the player dodge away from enemy due to poison build up. So overall if you don’t want to get poisoned, you will do it subconsciously. I’m not saying the gun is the best way to play. Obviously it’s not, but it’s not a build. It is a core mechanic of every class making it a problem in the creation. But believe what you want.
I never used the gun cause I didn't find it interesting, so "Fundamentally apart of my Bloodborne experience" would be more honest. And I still don't understand the difference between spamming magic and spamming the gun, there's differences between the two mechanics sure, but their role in their respective games is on a fundamental level the same. They're both play styles. Dark Souls with magic is a SIGNIFICANTLY less engaging experience, and is horribly boring for 9/10 people. From the main menu you're given the option to choose a magic class, throughout the game dozens of spells are handed to you, and every time you kill a boss you get souls you can use to level into magic, it is undeniably a MAJOR GAMEPLAY MECHANIC, but despite that, and despite how much worse the game becomes with magic, Dark Souls is still regarded as one of the best games of all time, because most people who played it have two things you seem to by your own volition forsake, self control and the initiative to go out of their way to play the game how they like the most. The gun is in every class sure. But so are shields in Dark Souls. I don't enjoy using shields so I don't use them despite the game feeding me so many. With that being said, if I played the game like you play Bloodborne, I would've gone through the entire thing with the fattest tower shield I could find and sat behind it for the entire game. And then made an hour long video talking about how I thought it was boring and that Dark Souls is the most overrated game of all time. An older comment on this video said "I can't say your way of playing is invalid because the gun is meant to be used." I disagree with this, I believe it's completely fair to say your way of playing is invalid because you for no tangible reason go out of your way to engage with the mechanics you loathe.. Also, in the Gehrman section, you call the gun addicting, and say its a fundamental part of Bloodborne's identity, and then compare it to the training wheels on a bike..? Do you, still ride your bike with training wheels? Or are you addicted to training wheels, or do you use training wheels as to not compromise the identity of your bike? @@Smabbott
@@Yharims i can see why he ignored your attempts at an argument, most of your comment is pseudo intelligent drivel and further proves how uu bb clowns cant take basic critique yet, youll get over this phase eventually. "The gun is in every class sure. But so are shields in Dark Souls. I don't enjoy using shields so I don't use them despite the game feeding me so many. With that being said, if I played the game like you play Bloodborne, I would've gone through the entire thing with the fattest tower shield I could find and sat behind it for the entire game. And then made an hour long video talking about how I thought it was boring and that Dark Souls is the most overrated game of all time." this is a laughable invalid comparison, since shields arent mandetory in DS and is a defence option, not to mention u have parry shields, which take actual skill and risk in DS, unlike the cheap and spammy gun of bb. if someone is parrying consistently in DS, theyre probably far more experienced players than bb players. "It's a little sad how there isn't much left of this review outside of parrying." lol, he talked about the bad boss quality, the bad environment variety, the bad boss creativity ( 80% of which are just flailing beasts, theres more creativity with DS fodder enemies than bb bosses) and how traversing the world is laughable if u have a saw cleaver since most enemies dont have poise, and the trashy chalice dungeons, and how bbs second half is almost as bad as ds1s, which i agree with. the only good main boss after vicar is gherman and thats just pathetic for a souls game. easily the worst main boss quality in the series barring ds2 since i havent played it yet. " fight by your own volition while trying to make it seem like the games fault just about encompasses everything wrong with this review" making parrying so spammable and mindless is objectively is the games fault, and the fact that u bloodborne clowns only retort is "just dont use it" says alot about your insulting delusions, oh sorry, i mean "attempts" at defending these garbage game designs. sorry that hurts your feelings. wont really answer most of your points as theyre just bb fanboy drivel without much critical thought in them, youre just pissed someone called out bbs flaws. ok lets test out your bias shall we, how many and what are bbs flaws? dont hurt yourself with your reply bb fanboy.
mediocre meaning of only moderate quality; not very good. each point of the video you presented a bad point and good point of the games, but still go to say it is good. You clickbait.
A critique should also be balanced and give points for and against. Trust me if this was just a ‘this game is bad’ video, the response would be horrific and it’s not true. The mediocre point is what the game is. Moderate meaning average. That’s what Bloodborne is. Average is midway. There’s good points and bad points. It’s a disappointment from what people think the game is to what it is. So no, it’s a brutal title. But it’s not clickbait.
@@Smabbott wrong, there’s nothing wrong with calling a great game, great. Do you know what the word average means? Apparently not. You’re welcome for the engagement you’re desperate for
Yo, so I just finished the video, and great work, man! I'm a huge Bloodborne fan (favorite in the entire franchise). But there's definitely fair criticism of Bloodborne, like farming healing, inconsistent boss quality, having to travel back to Hunter's Dream, just to mention a few. So a few things. About the color, I get what you mean that there isn't enough variety, but I don't think that's a negative; it actually adds to the atmosphere and overall feel of the game. I think BB is the most nihilistic in the franchise, and I think the world reflects that-a bloody and colorless mess. But I do think that the architecture makes up for this. I think areas like Yharnam, Old Yharnam, Mensis, Yahar'gul all look the same, but I think it's okay because they still look so different. The gun parrying, I don't quite get, maybe because I never really had this problem. I just never gun-spammed. I don't remember the staggering being that overpowered. I probably tried to spam it on a troll and then got hit by it and almost died, so it forced me to learn to time. Also, 20 is a lot, but when you need to throughout an entire area, I don't think you're gonna get away with spamming. For hunter fights, I do see it being more overpowered (like Gherman), but even in your fight, you were like half health and already used all your bullets. So I do think there's some timing skill required to "trivialize" the hunter enemies, and it being overpowered isn't that bad because it's skill involved instead of just spamming it. You compared it to a jump attack and said, "It's there, why not use it?" I think you could also compare it to summons in Elden Ring. It's there, yes, but if you use it and then say "this game is so easy," it's obvious why. If you just spam it and have no interest in properly engaging with it, I think there's some player responsibility there. But granted if you focus on parrying, it does make Gherman and Maria super easy. It's there, yes, but how you use it is also important. It's super satisfying to parry an enemy though, so I see why everyone uses it, and I like using it too, even if it's overpowered when you do it right. I just don't think you can purely spam your way to victory, and there's definitely skill involved in the parry. (BB was my first Souls game, so I'm talking from memory. I remember the parry not being that good and that I always naturally tried to time parries and not spam. Maybe if I played it after the other games, I would also experience it the way you did.) I also rarely cheesed so even bosses like Vicar Amelia/BSB on my first playthrough were pretty enjoyable. The staggering stuff with beast bosses is full agreement. I love the mechanic of staggering them, but it's a bit too overpowered. For me, the DLC bosses and good main game bosses + the atmosphere and aggressive/brutal combat system + unique weapons, and of course, the extremely vague and nihilistic themes mixed with the Lovecraftian and beastly enemies, the look of the world and the difficulty (I had a very difficult time playing) - I love how it plays, I love how it looks, I love what everything means, I love the lore and characters. All of this makes this an amazing game (for me). I will never forget that first playthrough; it made me fall in love with all the other games too. These games are the only ones I've played since I played BB a few years ago (few exceptions in games I've played, of course). I think your criticism is valid and understandable ❤️ we need 60fps tho. I'm done yapping.
Wow, sorry I didn’t see this comment earlier. This is such an articulated response in which does make you second guess things. I can totally understand your point with the summons. And you’re completely right, because I could say, yeah but summons make you lose all aggro so you’re not interacting with the boss. Then you’d say, isn’t that the same as not interacting with parrying? Yeah you’re completely right on that front. So thank you for that, I’d have to think about that one hard. Yeah the atmosphere is gorgeous and like you state, the colours reflect that nihilistic environment which the game takes place in. My problem is the architecture as a whole. I understand that when you look at the details of Yhar al Gol compared to Central Yahrnam, you can tell the difference. But from a casual play through I think you can say they do blend. In terms of the amount of bullets, yes that’s true if you’re going through everything before reaching the boss and presuming you beat it on your first go. But if not, you’ll run through everything to reach the boss again at full bullets. But again, I get what you’re saying. Maybe I do parry too much. But I think because it is so integral to the experience as a weapon, it feels like it’s supposed to be used. But then that opens the floodgates as what constitutes as too much. But yeah, I get completely what you’re saying here and thank you btw for the great comment. And also for making such a great argument to the contrary. Also yeah we need 60 fps! Take care mate!
@@Smabbottthanks for the response, I see what you mean about the architecture, I can definitely see them blending too much to a person's liking. Take care ❤️
Saying bloodborne doesn’t have a “Wow” moment is really just an incorrect statement, going into Cainhurst castle for the first time, seeing the amygdala hanging on the cathedral, the mini jump scare at the orphanage, pretty much the entire DLC are all “wow” moments, I do agree on that a lot of the level design does lean on the same aesthetic a bit too much tho
The dlc is absolutely great and amazing. But the main game about meh. The only thing wrong about this makn game is thats its short af. There were so many mysteries . like byrgenweth idk the spelling. I was DESPERATE to get to byrgenweryh and after getting there i was like wtf i have to do only this. Come on. Also i really like the upper cathedral. Honestly speaking another game like bloodborne would be nice to fix its flaws. I would say bloodborne has the most replaybility. The lore is fantastic. But yeah the parry machanic is also meh but the thing is i was not able to parry most bosses expect father g and sometimes Gerhman extremely hard. This game is great honestly but a bit rushed I would say
@@loveoflyrics7589 appreciate it. Thank you. It’s mainly just impactful language. Even writing that line it felt rather too much. But it flowed. But yeah fair play, enjoy.
So you're only allowed to write and edit an hour long video if it's something agreeable? Personally if you ask me. I'd say things in your life where you go "I didn't like it" or "I'm not sure if I like it" are quetions that are worth more mediating over as they will help you understand yourself more specially if it's something you're conflicted about. If you like something, that's good, but you can end up as someone who just devours what tickles their fancy without questioning anything. But by questioning and really thinking deeply why you don't like something? Well that tells you a lot about yourself.
Im the kinda guy that pre-ordered Demon's souls on ps3 lol. I dont think there is a more consistent studio than from in the last 15 years yet they did leave me disappointed one time. Yes it was Bloodborne. By no means do i hate the game but id be lying if i said i wasnt let down every time ive played it. Tes it has amazing atmosphere but it lacks for me personally in so many departments. Im actually replaying all the souls games in release order after completing shadow of the erdtree with a couple friends. Of course they love BB. Everyone seems to put it on a pedestal. I literally was just telling them it feels like junk food so it was great to hear you compare it to McDonald's lol. Im glad im not alone in the disappointment of what I'd still consider a solid game.
Very surprised your channel doesn’t have more subs, very well made video and pretty much agree with everything criticism wise. I’m pretty surprised that the chalice dungeons weren’t really brought up. I have played through the game about 5 times now with the platinum and it’s probably the most tedious aspect of the game that for some reason feels sweeped under the rug whenever the overall quality of the game is discussed. It is extremely tedious and boring going through most of these dungeons with usually really mid bosses. And the arugument that it’s optional content is dumb, everything is optional, playing the game is optional. I love this game, and it’s probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite fromsoft title, but nothing annoys me more when people act like is the most perfect game to ever be created. Bb fans are absolutely atrocious when it comes to accepting genuine criticism about this game. Regardless this was well articulated critique. You deserve more subs fr.
Honestly it’s because I didn’t explore them enough to talk about the chalice dungeons. I didn’t see the need to explore procedural dungeons as From is known for fantastic level designs. So why would you want to play a non-curated area in a game built around that fact? That’s an interesting perspective to have with the optional content part. Yeah that’s cool! And yes I understand what you say about the fanbase. I come from it from two different angles, if you have something constructive to say that I missed I will take the time to hear what people say. If you’re just out to insult. Then what’s the point in taking the time to talk? But that’s like any fanbase. And thank you for your kind words! It really means a lot, I’m glad you enjoyed. I have a Lies of P review out now if you’re interested. But if not, I thank you for taking the time to watch my vid. Have a great day!
Actually I already watched it and I agree game is incredibly well crafted. Lies of p was near perfection for me. Definitely will be sticking around for more though
If you want to see a good ESG game go over and check out the video in the bottom of the description, it is really based and I think you would prefer it over this video, have a lovely day.
awful take to think bb is your best souls game, bb fanboys should really start to critique their game, cuz its a mediocre souls game at best imo, this game isnt perfect and has alot of flaws that the fanbase doesnt like admitting too, lets get over that and move on.
I started with ds2, played some ds3, then did elden ring and sekiro. Got ps5 recently and tried bloodborne, i had huge expectations due to all the hype and i was like, is that all, am i missing something, probably my least favorite from game, sekiro being my most
The only flaws of bloodborne are not being able to respec,crappy gemstones upgrading system and being stuck in 30fps although that's more of a preference. All games have flaws, but compared to the crap released these days, BB stands out like masterpiece for many people
Finally, someone to balance out the BS. Bloodborne is a good game with a great atmosphere but the bosses are straight up disappointing. I'm glad someone is pushing back against this narrative that Bloodborne is some masterpiece that never put a foot wrong. It seems to have gained more traction after Elden Ring. I get it, for many it was their FromSoftware experience. It's fast paced, has a scary atmosphere and has a good soundtrack but for fuck's sake, it's not perfect..
@@Lucivius27 let them come😎 nah I joke. It’s fine to get passionately defensive about something. As long as you can be constructive on how you make your point. I hate responses like. No you’re wrong… okay. How?
for the blood starved beat fight I suggest when your poisoned don’t panic try to slowly move away heal than use a antidote and gif me I was able to beat blood starved beat with out cock tails or parrying
As a person who has never played bloodborne it’s shocking to see this kind of criticism when everywhere else I’ve only heard praises for this game to the point of being the best fromsoft game. At the end of the day I still won’t know for sure, but seeing these clips it does look quite underwhelming at least in terms of gameplay (visuals are damn good tho)
Fromsoft made it so it's a good game. But most people played it after ds2 and have nostalgic opinions on it. Combat is super mid. Lore and atmosphere are the best they have ever been
Yeah I agree. But the combat is good. It’s just what you’re fighting isn’t. Also the rally mechanic hurts the game imo where you’ll find yourself losing rhythm with the boss in order to deal damage if there is an open or there isn’t. But yeah the bosses don’t suit the gun combat so they can all be broken. But yeah the lore and atmosphere is unmatched.
You have to make your own mind up bud. But I can promise you, you’ll see more of a bias towards this game than any other of From’s because of its aesthetic alone. Many people who love Bloodborne haven’t actually played Bloodborne. But then there are those who have and that’s fair enough if they think it’s their favourite. But every From game has flaws. But BB gets overlooked for some reason.
Only critique i have is that the vanilla boss catalog is weak. The cleric beast and father gascoigne are really good tutorial bosses, but after that its just meh after meh until gherman
Indeed. The DLC is a bit better but not much. And if you do the Chalice Dungeons first you become too powerful for the DLC. I can't think of a single boss in Bloodborne that I thought was bloody awesome. I guess Maria comes close.
Honestly, I did not exactly love BloodBorne,but in the games defense I just recently tried it after Lies of P and Elden Ring and for me the game just did not click with me. It being 30fps for me hurt my experience, and I did not like the gun parry system at all. Thats not to say the game is not good, just after Lies of P and Elden Ring having such a fluid and smooth battle system, I just could not even enjoy playing BB,for me Lies of P and Elden Ring are the best 2 soul's games/likes I ever played.
Blood starved beast is so easy without cheesing or "healing" just side step around his slow ass predictable moveset, now don't get me wrong I definitely agree that this isn't a very good souls game but tha point made no sense
I disliked the video, but also subscribed because your passion is clear and the quality of your production is high. some thoughts, if you're interested: It's true that the gun is there to be used, but I strongly disagree with the notion that spamming L2 is the optimal use of that tool. Your resources are limited in order to put the onus on you to use those resources responsibly. I think this important, and it applies to the game as a whole: the more responsibility you take on, the more you get out of the game. It's one thing to just want to get the fight over with; it's another thing to strive for a deeper understanding of the game, to strive to meaningfully improve and enjoy the feeling of moving lucidly in this space. If clearing the game is as far as one wants to go, then tactics like fishing for parries is viable enough for casual players to see the end. If Bloodborne isn't a space that you feel inspired to make yourself at home in then that's totally fair, but the idea that Bloodborne is objectively bad because there exist more or less exploitative strategies is silly. You get out what you put in. It seems like you only had so much of yourself to put into the game and I completely respect that what you personally got out of the game based on your investment was disappointing. This makes the game *subjectively disappointing for you*. To make objective claims about the game requires a rather rigorous logical perspective & method that accounts for whatever falls outside of your perspective as well. one small example: the Blood-Starved Beast's grab attack is certainly fast because there are very few start-up frames -- indeed, the attack lands less than a second after it's initiated. But dude, you have far more than a second to prepare for and react to the attack because the BSB telegraphs the move by standing completely still before launching it, and you didn't show that portion of BSB's behavior in your video. That's a special action that precedes the grab attack and the grab attack only, which leaves me wondering whether you a) didn’t notice or understand this and so didn’t provide this information in your hour-long video, or b) knew about it but chose to omit it to make your complaint come across as more reasonable. I'm assuming you made that point in good faith, but the conclusion is far reaching: your arguments suffer when you fail to try to see beyond your own subjective experience. This happened many times over the hour, and it's a shame that i can't respond to each of them in a single comment. The idea that the gun or the rally mechanic objectively hurt the game are far more prevalent examples that I don't have enough space to properly address here. It's good that people know that the game is not made of magic, and you did a service by providing your perspective. I appreciate the effort, but it would be a shame if anyone confused your gripes as proof of objective deficiencies of the game. Looking forward to your next video!
Watching again and wanted to take the time to point out that at 26:39 you claim that "the camera is not designed for this type of boss battle" (re: Shadows). This is the type of flawed reasoning I'm talking about above. The "camera" isn't the problem -- the fact that threats can exist outside of your field of view and attack you from out of frame when you're locked onto a specific enemy isn't a *bad* thing, it's just a true fact. It's not good or bad, it just IS. In order to play the game at a higher level, you'd have to ask yourself whether or not you should be locked on to an enemy in that specific situation. You don't need to be locked on to land a gunshot parry -- your character only needs to be properly aligned with the enemy, and decoupling your character's alignment in the game space and your camera view is a skill that is worth cultivating in ANY Fromsoft game, and it's particularly relevant in a situation involving more than one enemy that poses a threat. By locking on, you're making a decision that affects how your character behaves and the information that you have access to. Just because you can get hit by something you can't see after you made a decision that precluded you seeing the threat doesn't mean that the camera "isn't designed for these types of battles", it means that in order to be effective in those battles one needs to make thoughtful and responsible decisions about how they use the tools they have available to them and adapt new skills to succeed in that situation. You can like it or not like it, but the idea that the camera isn't designed to facilitate a gank fight is just a logically senseless claim. I want to be clear -- I'm not trying to be a dick, and FYI caps were for emphasis, not to show any kind of aggression lol. It's just that these details are not obvious but also happen to matter a lot if you want to engage with the topic you're thinking about on a more meaningful level. You aren't required to do any of that thinking if you aren't invested in the game, but if you don't do that work then you miss the opportunity to get better, and ultimately that's the whole point of these games I think.. it feels good to get better at them, and it's disappointing when you don't feel that satisfaction, yeah?
One more before work: Rom isn't my favorite fight by any stretch, but it's hardly "style over substance". It's a fight that primarily tests your *movement* skills. Rom isn't by herself in a little room because she's not a challenging opponent in single combat; she's surrounded by spiders to force you to move safely throughout the arena while thinning the horde of smaller hazards and avoiding her spells. You don't have to love the fight, but if you appreciate the fact that it's basically a puzzle testing your movement you can see that there's plenty of substance to process while you're in the thick of it. If you've acquired some knowledge and prepared your character, you can avoid it, but that's *your choice*, and that encounter or the big-picture boss design philosophy in BB isn't necessarily harmed by the fact that you have that choice available to you once you've gained that knowledge. In fact, the AoE attack can be survived if you defend yourself with the wooden shield. That's knowledge in just the same way as the one-cycle strategy is knowledge, but these two facts aren't good or bad without context, and i was not at all convinced that the context you provided proved on its own that the fight is just bad. If someone gets that knowledge from a wiki on their first playthrough then they probably just want to see the credits and move on to something else, but a repeat player using their knowledge to dispatch the boss quickly doesn't mean the boss isn't worth being in the game.
Thanks man. Yeah I appreciate the feedback. And in terms of the BSB yeah the option where I just didn’t think of it. It wasn’t meant to be construed as if the footage was misleading, so I apologise for that. Nah I didn’t show it because genuinely I meant what I said when the moves blend for me through a wailing beast animation and most of his attacks looked the same. So I’ll take the responsibility for that. Thank you for pointing that out.
Okay between you and me, the camera complaint was a spur of the moment comment. Even writing it felt rather too subjective. The whole video is subjective I don’t want to say my points are objective. How can I? The game’s beloved, it’s just a take. Yeah in terms of the lock on, it feels like the epitome of playing ds2 with the aspect of knowing when to lock on and when not to lock on. So yeah that’s a fair observation. However I wouldn’t say it’s a senseless claim as so many people state about the fact that these games are not designed in order to facilitate one on many enemies and they never real have been. Each game plays better when it’s one on one. I’m not disagreeing with you, but the camera isn’t a new or radical take. But again thank you for your perspective . I think in terms of the parry, because of what you put earlier sorry I didn’t respond in the previous comment, I understand what you’re saying about mastering and connecting with the game and getting better. Yeah completely agree, I’ve done an HP1 + AP1 at the same time in Sekiro. However, my main problem with the party is how easy it is to circumvent bosses. To my knowledge, there is no other game that comes close to a core mechanic breaking the fights. The closest being jump attacks in Elden Ring. But even that takes a few attempts. I understand what you’re saying and I agree from a certain perspective, but the game has a mechanic which is abusive. I know it’s your choice to use it. But again like I say in the vid, it’s there and it is way too easy to execute. This is the ultimate difference between our two play styles and I get where you’re coming from. But the game has the mechanic in place. It’s like people who complained at overpowered builds in Elden Ring. The response is to just not use it. But again it’s there, so you can’t ignore it. I also want to state I’m not trying to get at you either. Just enjoy this back and forth. I prefer when you don’t agree with someone, it allows you to learn for next time and conflicting takes make for good conversations. So thank you.
In terms of Rom. I don’t real know what to say, the spiders are there of course. But does that make something like Dukes Dear Freya a good puzzle fight, because there’s not that many attacks and the spiders are everywhere for a puzzle to either evict or leave and deal with the main boss. But no I will not defend Rom. The only thing I will say and thank you for not saying so is that the comment of the run back was a joke, but I had one comment which viewed it as a malicious take on the run backs. Idc really it was just a joke. But I get what you’re saying, but again like you said it’s not a good fight. Yes it’s a puzzle fight. But it doesn’t excuse the annoyance of the fight. Like how the Bed of Chaos is an annoying puzzle fight. Btw I feel both fights aren’t that challenging. I never struggled too much on BOC and Rom on my first run of the game did take me an hour, so maybe that is hard. But it just feels really outdated which has more in common with the likes of BOC and DDF so idk I honestly can’t think of a positive about the fight bar the arena. I get what you’re saying with a puzzle boss. But I still don’t think it’s a good fight. In terms of returning and beating it quickly and more efficiently shows your progress rather than a way to interact with the Boss. It’s not like returning something like Guardian Ape and beating it more efficiently by learning patterns and deflecting everything, rather than backing away and chipping damage on a first run. But the spiders are a nuisance. Sorry I get what you’re saying. But I can’t say what I said about Rom is wrong, yes the context can change in different circumstances, but in the moment that is what goes through your head. As well as my god, this arena is amazing! Also that’s interesting about the shield I did not know that. But that isn’t common knowledge in which you could figure out yourself due to the item descend the shield. Once again, not getting at you for anything. Thanks for the comment.
After being really excited for Bloodborne for many years and recently finishing it on the PS4, I don't care about it any more. It's not a masterpiece, it's Dark Souls 2 with some of Dark Souls 3 sprinkled in.
Seriously, the game is old. Of course it has flaws. Sure some criticism doesn't make sense but there's actual genuine point in this video. I love Bloodborne but it can be better
@@Cephlapodninja It is kinda dissapointing if you buy into all the hype around the game. Without the dlc it easily has the worst base game of any recent fromsoft game. Also not as replayable as other from games.
@@justaguy1071 I don't buy into hype around the game I am the hype around the game if you don't like the game it's completely fair to say that but to imply everybody else must also dislike it due some sort of objective criticism is stupid
this game has the dumbest and most dedicated fan base, you can not say a single bad thing about the game unless you want them to just immediately tell you you're wrong and your opinion is invalid because their game is perfect
I don't think the game has any major flaws aside from the garbage hunter npc fights in the base game and the ocassional bad fights. It's solid in nearly every other aspect.
@@Sephirothkingdom782 "t's solid in nearly every other aspect." well it is the jack of all trades of souls games. the game also has quite a few major flaws, some of which are in this video.
Really great video. I personally love this game, it was my first From Software game too. However I agree with a lot of your criticisms. This makes me want a Bloodborne 2 more than ever. It would be a great opporitunity to take what this game did great and improve upon the flaws. By the way, you forgot (or decided to leave out due to length) Cainhurt Castle. That area definitely changes things up a bit visually and enemy wise. What are your thoughts on that area and Logarius as a boss? And what about the dungeons? What do you think about it as a feature unique to this game and some unique bosses that only show up in the dungeons?
Well thank you very much. Yeah I would love a Bloodborne 2. But I don't think I'd want it through From themselves. Looking at how great DS3 is, it's still mainly just 1 but fan service. Nothing wrong with that. But I feel the success of Bloodborne could affect the outcome. In terms of Cainhurst as an area. I think it's incredible. Yeah sorry, I just couldn't find a suitable moment to sideline over to the area. The castle is such a departure to the rest of the game that it creates that same feeling for me of the research hall and the fishing hamlet. The gothic otherworldly setting is perfect as well as the shortcuts being more interesting than opening a gate or an elevator. In terms of Logarius, a great fight visually. A truly brilliant score which again stands out on its own as well as the aggression in phase 2 being brilliant. I'm not a fan of the sorcery spam of phase 1 as it's a bit more annoying and high damage while trying to chase him down. I think phase 2 would be brilliant. But unfortunately, the parry spam again folds it into the camp of another hunter fight. Again, I love the arena. And in terms of the chalice dungeons. I couldn't tell you what I think about them as I wasn't big on the areas or bosses of the base game which were hand crafted. So procedurally generated areas weren't really my bag. The only dungeon I've been in was CUMMMFPK because I hated farming for vials😂😂 but thanks so much for the comment!
The loopback to Firelink Shrine is amazing because Firelink IS the hub of the game. Central Yharnum is just a place. If it looped back to the Hunter’s Dream instead of having you teleport there from ANY lantern that would be a different story.
Hmm, while Bloodborne definitely has its issues, I don't think I agree with many of your points, especially the one that this game is somehow disappointing. The way Bloodborne influences the player to be aggressive rather than passive as at that point every Souls-game was played with Shield up unless people were experienced players, is amazing (and you have to remember, at that time the Souls community was a lot smaller than what it is now. Heck, up until Elden Ring, many refused to play Souls games simply due to their difficulty even though they're not really that difficult if you just put a little time in it) Everything about its gameplay influences the player to be aggressive, to be greedier than they think they can be. At my best I parried every attack from Father Gascoigne to the point he couldn't even transform to his second phase. I also don't think the boss-designs are inconsistent as every one of them is explained in the lore. Even the chalice dungeons (considering how mediocre they are) have lore behind them. I think the Witches of Hemwick are the weakest boss-design by far as they're just a gimmick boss and FromSoftware has never been really good at gimmick fights, with the best probably being Yhorm the Giant in DSIII due to its spectacle. And lastly, the areas? "repetitive level layout"? In terms of how devoid of color everything is, I could agree though I don't think that's a slight against the game, but in terms of actual layouts they couldn't be further apart. Yes, they all have a shortcut or 2, but that's just part of the FromSoftware design and it isn't repetitive in terms of how these shortcuts are designed. Bloodborne is an excellent game and it seems like it just didn't mesh with you. Which is fine, but I feel like this has colored your opinion on things to the point of being unfair (I mean, read your video description alone, it's clear you have something against the game being one of the most beloved Souls-games) Being critical is fine. I've Platinum'd this game and did a BL4 run until Ebrietas who I just couldn't beat personally as I'm just not that good, and I know this game has its faults, the Blood Vial system being main among them. But I do think being critical requires objectivity. And I don't think this video was made with the most objective mindset. Which is a shame because while your love for Lies of P really shined through in your video about that game, the points you made were still objective for the most part. As an example: I think Elden Ring isn't fun to play. To me the open world was bland, boring, and frustrating due to the uncertainty of when you'd be ready for the boss of the area, whereas with previous FromSoftware titles you always knew "If I finish this entire area, I should theoretically be powerful enough to beat the boss". Does that mean Elden Ring is a bad game? Or a disappointment? No. Clearly not. It's loved by many, made FromSoftware into an even more mainstream developer than before. Armored Core VI would've not sold nearly as much as they did if Elden Ring had flopped, the hype for anything FromSoftware just is that high at this point. I just personally didn't have a good time with Elden Ring as the things that were frustrating to me, impeded my enjoyment. Doesn't mean that if I look at it critically and objectively, that the open world is bad. I just didn't mesh with it. Just something to think about if you want to keep making critical analysis videos. (which are very well produced btw)
Thank you for this very fair comment. You are right on many things here. I want you to know, I completely forgot what the description stated until you pointed it out to me. And I agree when reading it, it was spiteful and petty. That’s not how I like to be with these videos. So I want you to know that has changed because of your input so thank you. I too love the aggressive nature of the game. As you probably know as it’s mentioned in the video. It’s a very different state to be in for these games and it’s a welcomed edition. I feel I could have been more clear with my reasoning for bosses being inconsistent. I believe the lore for every single boss fits the world it crafted and for that instance they are all amazing. It’s mostly to do with the animations and the mechanics which the player is given to deal with them. That’s why I wanted to state about the animations for Lies of P so vigorously, because I realised it needed to be in this video. No the main point is that the beast animations are annoying as they blend. As I fully believe that limiting yourself to a certain theme, you have to play by those rules. The beasts are rabid animals and as such can only stretch so far with their unique move sets through animation. Whereas something like Lies of P allowed the team to use the setting to create different puppet bosses with unique animations. In terms of the repetitive level layout is again a bad translation to what I was trying to capture. Naturally the levels are all vast and have winding paths in which show the player new ways to progress it is mainly the shortcuts which is repetitive. And looking back, I wish I changed the aspect of repetitive level layout with repetitive shortcut layout. This is completely wrong on my part. So I apologise for that. The main gripe comes from the use of elevators being used so commonly that you would reach the next area, such as forbidden woods. See a locked door and think, oh here we go again. The colour pallet is completely subjective which is hard to quantify in a critique. But I feel even in critique it is impossible to be objective. I understand which I state in the Lies of P video that Yharnam was crafted that way because society was never really born in this city. Always being a town of survival. So it makes sense that everything is cobbled together. But again, I still don’t like it. It fits the theme and the world perfectly. But to go through each area and have the same feeling through each location got stale. But I completely see where you’re coming from. Well done for BL4 that is insane! I’ve never attempted it. But I’ve heard it’s one of the hardest runs of the series. I never wanted the video to come off as I don’t like the game. That was never the point. But I feel there are some areas in which haven’t been explored when it comes to criticism of this game. I can’t escape the feeling of how the bosses feel to fight. Yes this could be subjective. But I feel there is enough evidence in the animations and the players mechanics being able to break nearly every hunter fight is a shame. Yes you don’t have to play like this. But you can. And that is a problem. This isn’t a build in which you can make to break the game. The gun is a staple of the mechanics. But again, I don’t want the idea that this game isn’t good to be what people remember about this video. I’m aware it isn’t reviewed as well. I knew it wouldn’t be. But I couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off with certain factors of Bloodborne. I understand what you say about Elden Ring and you are right. But are you? Because the realisation of the overtuned bosses in that game was widely popularised after Joseph Anderson posted his video. It is now common that Elden Ring has this problem with some combos from bosses being too long to deal with as you essentially wait to play the game again. This is true. It isn’t an opinion. When Malekith goes up in the air, there is nothing you can do but wait. You can like this or you cannot. But it is there. It’s the same with the animations in Bloodborne as well as the rally system. You can like it or you can’t. But it is true that it does break you out of the flow of the fight as you fight trying to rally health back rather than engaging with the animations. Especially in something like The One Reborn. This becomes harder to break away from when all beast fights essentially play the same with the move sets. Although they are tweaked slightly, there isn’t enough to differentiate between them. Leading the beasts to force the player to play the same way for all of them. But thank you for your comment. I do really appreciate it. And having the chance to tell you the shortcomings of my video has been an amazing experience for me. Like I said, you have altered my video. So thank you for that. And thank you for your kind words. I hope you have an amazing day.
except alot of that "aggressiveness" youre talking about is a negative as far as im concerned, the games after it handled that much better imo. bb lost the strategy part of fromsoft combat, its easily the most spammable and mindless fromsoft game when it comes to combat.
"it's clear you have something against the game being one of the most beloved Souls-games" yeah what of it exactly? he disagrees with it being one of the most beloved souls games, he doesnt like it as much as the others, hence this analysis, and frankly i can see why, the bb fanbase is easily the most childish, most abnoxious and most delusional fanbase between all the fromsoft games and that says something considering fromsofts fanbase are abit...special to say the least. i also had a bl4 run and lasted up until kos and gherman, didnt actually finish it though and i agree with pretty much every point he has, its easily the most mindless and most spammable game in the series, hes being about as objective as you are, any person that claims to be 100% objective is narcissistic and delusional as thats impossible, you can have some objectivity, but overall opinions are opinions. "I think Elden Ring isn't fun to play. To me the open world was bland, boring, and frustrating due to the uncertainty of when you'd be ready for the boss of the area, whereas with previous FromSoftware titles you always knew "If I finish this entire area, I should theoretically be powerful enough to beat the boss" thats a shame, personally i think theres more talent, art, and effort put into limgrave alone than the entirety of bloodborne tbh, dont know how anyone can find the most crafted open world in gaming history bland, but to each his own, small parts of the open world like the underground dropped my jaw on the floor more than 30 hours of my first playthrough of bb or sekiro XD "whereas with previous FromSoftware titles you always knew "If I finish this entire area, I should theoretically be powerful enough to beat the boss" i knew you souls vets needed a more guided experience than you would liked to admit. the same applies to ER, once you explore about 70% of an open world area, and your stat distribution isnt shite (most idiot souls vets went into mountaintops with 35 or 40 vigor cuz they thought the older level caps applied), then youre good to go for any boss of that area, this "uncertainty" of yours is purely self relegated. im glad fromsoft finally went open world. hopefully their next games stick to this format and improve it, rather than stick to a bunch of impressively interconnected rooms and corridors and hallways like the older games are, even the older games open spaces still feel like interiors.
I probably have the most complaints and could suggest the most fixes for this game out of the rest of the series, but i really think it is my favorite of all of them, the combat and levels are just so good
That's great Boss! Honestly if you can pick apart something you love and find the flaws it makes the connection so much stronger, as you can maybe find something you maybe didn't notice before which maybe improves the game for yourself. I have those myself. Mainly Sekiro.
@@questionablezoomer764it was their first attempt at an open world, of course it wouldn’t do great when compared to their linear style But if they do another open world, they’ll likely learn from the mistakes that Elden Ring made, and make an even greater game As Master Shifu once said: “If you only do what you’re good at, you’ll never be more than what you are”
I think alot of bloodborne fans are blinded by their nostalgia and are unable to handle whats an otherwise very fair critique. Bloodborne is great but it isnt perfect and it has its fair share of flaws.
Early on in the video he basically stated “The game’s theme doesn’t allow the areas to stand out”, and I do agree with this to some extent, but I also think that it has positive effects on the game overall, because when you are presented with an unusual area, like the Fishing village in the dlc, it has more of an effect on you than if the Fishing Village was an area in a Dark Souls game
Yes completely agree with this take! That’s what makes that area absolutely unique compared to the rest of the game. And I have to admit I didn’t think of it that way, having the rest of the areas be muted does indeed make the others stand out. However, I kind of wish they just had more personality. Something like Lies of P gets away with this with unique landmarks such as shops and stuff. Statues could have been used but they were underutilised. Thanks for the comment. Something interesting to think about.
@@UnknownUser-in1hd yeah. Not saying Bloodborne is bad, but it does stick to a very similar visual style throughout. Gothic architecture aside, the areas look the same when set in the city. There isn’t that much distinction between districts. Makes it all appear as grey.
What I'm hearing is "the lack of variety is good because when they finally do add some variety it feels good". That's basically like saying "starvation is good because it feels that much more satisfying when you finally eat".
Great video I think bloodborne is ruined by overhype and DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER people really say bloodborne has the best boss line up and best areas but half of the bosses have the same move set more than half of the areas have the same look all the enemies act the same AMAZING COMBAT but nothing fun to fight the cpu pvp fights are harder than half of the bosses amazing combat but weapons are few and out the few only about 4 of them is good the base game is just bad Ik it was gonna be mediocre when a UA-camr titled his video BLOODBORNE THE BEST SOUSL GAME and the first thing he says is how the lore is better than the boss fights… the dlc really saved this game but never call this game better than ds1,DS3,er,sekiro over a perfect dlc if you have to buy something to make the game great doesn’t make it perfect!
I never thought of it like that with the DLC. But you’re right. And yeah, it’s the animations of each boss which makes them samey. The time between attacks never deviates leading to some very formulaic fights. The more I think about Bloodborne the more I find I don’t like it as much. But the fandom is something else. Be careful with that opinion. Because they’ll come for you. And it’s not nice😂
Havent finished watching yet, and while I was also disappointed in the game, Im not sure why so many negative reviews focus on the bosses. Yeah they suck. But theres so much more. The level design goes to shit after Old Yharnam. The third mandatory area, Forbidden woods has one of the most poorly designed paths, with the most useless elevator shortcut and an easily missable boss shortcut. It is also at this point, with a million snake enemies that are frustrating and unfun to fight, where the ganks of bloodborne really got on my nerves. It was ok In Yharnam and old Yharnam, bc/ its a city and shit. The crowds gave some immersion...But the rifle gank on the way to hemwick village...The summoners in yharalgul (also terrible level design with confusing teleports)...The rock throwers and endless enemies in Nightmare frontier, the winter lantern gank in Nightmare of Mensis...This game just WANTS me to run past it and not engage with anything. Also terrible lack of enemy variety. Yharalgul is the second to last area and youre fighting the same Yharnamites and Ogres from the very beginning. Chalice dungeons have some cool designs but I dont count those. The game is full of disappointments. Theyll throw you a bone like Cainhurst castle only to realize you can chew through it in 20 minutes because its one of the smallest locations in the game...DLC was great.
Dude I could not agree more. Apart from Chalice dungeons as I haven’t even touched one. Why would you want to play something by FromSoft, known for brilliant level design which is procedurally generated? But yeah, I hate the levels in Bloodborne. They’re boring and repetitive. Past Old Yharnam. You’re completely right.
elden ring has even more clear animations that tell which direction to dodge and which position is best, its just alot of enemies and bosses have alot of moves and the anti panic roll design of all of them make things harder, whether you see that as good or not is up to you, personally i see it as the next step in evolution in souls boss combat cuz frankly it would be boring if they just created another batch of bb/ds3 bosses. and the only boss in elden ring with a bad camera is the fire giant, literally every other boss's camera is fine, so no my dude, they didnt forget about the fixes of their classic camera issues in elden ring. man i feel like youre really blindly biased towards sekiro, cuz frankly, i disagree with the sekiro fanboy take that its "perfection", far from it, the game has alot of issues that the sekiro fanbase doesnt like admitting to, from many prosthetics being useless and mildly situational compared to the top 4 generally best ones (ahem ahem very much like elden souls), to its combat becoming stale and clear cut once mastered, to its incredibly low variety in practically very aspect in game design, to the lack of personality and creativity in bosses other than the obviously good ones(most are generic sword/spear user#2334, theres far more creativity in elden souls enemy and boss design, which i get because of the difference in themes), to the fact that when it comes down to it, the most optimal way to play sekiro is basically just deflecting and attacking with the occasional jump and nikiri (again, very much like souls, seems like fromsoft just arent that good at balancing any of their games), dont believe me? then just watch speed runners, hell you used that as an example against bb and im one of the ppl that think its nowhere near the best souls game, elden ring is my fav by a landslide. its weird how the elden souls fanbase learned to take and discuss critique of their favorite games but the offshoot seki-borne fanbase still hasnt learned that.
Elden Ring is overtuned to the point where it’s unfair. To this day Malenia’s waterfowl dance is still unavoidable. The only way to successfully dodge it every time is to break the AI of the boss in order to trick the positioning to make her move to your last location. The fact that this boss isn’t fixed is the clear example of what you just said fans feeling this is acceptable and git gud mentality means that nothing can have a fair conversation. Malenia has a bug which has been there since day one where you riposte her at the end of phase one and she won’t transition to phase two. You have to hit her another 4 times. Depending on the weapon. These are problems in which can seriously affect the outcome of the fight. Something Sekiro doesn’t have. Sekiro’s combat is superior to Souls through the ability to understand and react to every attack in a way which teaches the player both reaction time and animation patterns. Saying all you have to do is parry and attack is an incredibly simplistic way of looking at the diverse combat system From made. You have to time the parry and react in three different ways, either unblockable, parry or attack. That’s a third addition to combat in which Souls games do not contain. The sense that you have to learn a fight in and out. Yes you’re right about the panic rolling being an option rather than a certainty so yes that’s true. But Lies of P has shown that you can have challenging bosses in your game with move sets which can all be learned with no gotcha moments. Something Elden Ring does frequently. I love Elden Ring, but it has problems. Sekiro is set in a location which is based on Japanese architecture. So boss design will be many people with spears and swords. Doesn’t make any encounter lesser than because of it. The animations in Sekiro are the most fluent and reactant in From’s catalogue. Considering every single move in the game is fair and manageable and doesn’t require a certain build or item to counteract. The sense that once you master a fight is ‘stale’ is subjective and obviously they’ll be clear cut. The sense of being able to dominate the fight shows this progression and living up to the title of Shinobi. Rather than having this cognitive dissonance of where cutscenes show you being powerful and capable and then you can’t reach that potential. Sekiro’s journey for the player makes the player become a master with the game which is a good thing. And yeah you may not use all the prosthetics, but others do. Like how you may not use all the weapons in Elden Souls like you said. But fair play. I don’t think Sekiro is perfection, there are problems. But the combat is, compared to the rest of From’s catalogue.
To use the gun in order to parry will require knowing the parry windows. If you constantly shoot you might get some staggers but you will run out of bullets eventually. You can create some but that costs health and as a result, vials. In your fight with Gehrman you had like 4 bullets and the boss was close to half health. Anyway, amazing video as it is nice to see a different perspective.
Thanks man! Yeah I was trying too hard with Gehrman as that was my third time fighting him and I was like. Nah I'm gonna stretch this. A bit too much. But yeah, you're right.
Bloodborne is easily the most overrated souls game of all time. However, it's still excellent, but it's certainly not better than anything that has come after it. Disappointing and mediocre by Fromsoft standards is still an excellent game. I just finished playing through all souls games (except DS1). Bloodborne is the last one I beat. It took me sooooooo long to get passed the 30 FPS and the Blood vial issue. The 30 FPS isn't a deal breaker, but holy cow having to farm Blood vials is so infuriating. If I wasn't able to beat most bosses is 1-4 attempts, I would have absolutely put the game down. Why on earth would they use this terrible healing system instead of the amazing Estus flask system?
@@David-tr4jl no it's not. If you keep going back to heal every time you get hit, you're gonna run out of vials. If you're move forward after being hit and hit the enemy back, you'll recover you health and save your vials. Simple logic. Stop playing this like Dark Souls, rolling around like a b***h and waiting for an opening.
Just run through Yharnam a few times and you should be able to fill out vials and bullets. There is one red guy before Ludwig's room that gives a bunch of vials as well. Also the FPS is honestly not that bad. Maybe I need more eyes, but it is not too much of a deal.
@@EmmanuelGoldstein322 "Just run through Yharnam a few times" so I need to wait through multiple loading screens, spend minutes clearing every enemy repeatedly, all just to get heals that I should get upon death? That sucks. The FPS isn't bad if you aren't used to 60 fps. However, I'd argue that for a hitbox action game like Bloodborne that requires fast button inputs, it objectively makes the experience much worse.
I must say, calling Bloodborne a disappointment is the ridiculously ballsy considering how immature Bloodborne stans are when you don't compliment they're beloved game, it's good to see someone finally speak the truth about this mediocre game. Instant sub
This is such a weird video of complaining for the sake of complaining. Did you find out by yourself how to cheese the bosses or did you go online to find strategies? When I played bloodborne I did not look up anything and I had the best time I've ever had gaming, I tried to use the parry, sometimes it worked mostly it didn't get the timing right. I agree that some bosses are not well done and some are pretty bad but to complain about the shadows of yarhnam that the cheesing tactic works out and that this is the way intended to fight them is kinda disingenuous. Also, you said that you were trying to be fair and not hating it because it is loved but you almost your biggest praises were like "it is good" and when you said something is great you had to come with a backhanded comment on why it is being kept down, like the orphan of kos commentary or that Ludwig's music didn't match when it was perfect (although someone else had to convince you) Like I said very weird video and it seems you went with the mindset to hate the game and you convinced yourself that it is not good. If I gad to guess you did so because people say it is the best souls (or some, like me, the best game ever) while you much prefer Dark Souls or Elden Ring. While we're talking about cheesing, the jumping attack is not a cheese mechanic in Elden Ring but spirit ashes, once you get the mimic the bosses with it active become jokes.
Right. I will be completely honest with you. When I first played this game, I got through Central Yharnam, beat the cleric Beast, Beat Gascoigne, went through Old Yharnam and I was certain it was the coolest game I had ever played. That was 7 years ago. Then I reached the Blood Starved Beast and just gave up. During the following years I then played through Dark Souls then 2, 3 Sekiro and then played through the rest of Bloodborne. No I didn’t look up anything. I don’t agree with doing this, you ruin the experience if you do that. How can you trust your interpretation if it’s muddled from outward sources? So no, I just knew how to parry, not that hard to achieve as it’s the most accessible in the series to stagger an enemy. Shadows is a bad gank fight. It’s up to you if you agree or not. But they don’t flow well when you fight them together. Making you result to parrying them. I don’t hate Bloodborne. I like Bloodborne. But it has problems in which the other games have, somehow though this one gets a free pass. The animations for beasts are too similar to each other. The hunter fights are a slave to the parry system, the shortcuts become predictable and the world is aesthetically too grey. This is the one part which is subjective I will give you. I don’t see why changing your mind on something like music is a bad thing. It’s not just Bloodborne I believe has the music being too epic syndrome. Dark Souls 3 has every theme be grand whether the boss needs it to be or not. But no, I don’t care if I my friend pointed that out to me. It’s good to have other interpretations. And he was right. So why is that a problem? Yes it does annoy me the amount of praise this game has. But that is people’s opinion, so who am I to tell them they’re wrong for thinking that way? Of course they’re not. The game has an aesthetic which makes more than the normal amount of fandom behind these games love it. So yes, it annoys me, because Bloodborne has so many bosses which lack any impact or uniqueness through their animations. Literally only being hailed as brilliant through their aesthetic. Which isn’t a problem. I know you’re not telling me it’s perfect. Because it’s not. But it is a good game. Yes I prefer Dark Souls and Elden Ring. But that doesn’t make Bloodborne bad. And yes, Jump attacks are a cheese in Elden Ring. That’s why they’re used for speed runs and such. But yeah, that’s my two sense of the matter. Sorry for being quite blunt. But that was the gage I got with this. Have a good day.
@@ahmadkhairul337 I also mentioned I gave up on it 7 years ago. Since then I played all the other games. So yes BSB is easy to parry. And nah, in response to your last comment. I won’t quit while I’m ahead. Because I’m not ahead😂
@@Smabbott if it's so easy to parry and you said "parrying" trivialized the game, why did the boss felt so hard that you had to quit the first time you played it? You're contradicting yourself so hard right now lol 😂
We get it, you like Souls games😁 Jk, but really, it wasn't supposed to be a souls game, its supposed to play differently, and it obviously doesnt fit your playstyle. Doesn't mean that its bad or cheap. Everyone's entitled to their own oppinions and thats good. Although... you can equip some other items in that left hand, you know? I assume you don't always have summons in elden ring or firecrackers in sekiro😁
It's mainly through the fact that most weapons as side arms do the same stagger animation. Whether it be augur of Ebrietas or the cannon. They all basically leave the boss in a staggered state. Whereas with Sekiro prosthetics, you can stun someone, you can teleport behind someone. You can relentlessly attack someone with a kunai blade. You can flame thrower someone and ignite your blade in the process. Continuing the flow of combat. Sekiro has a lot of variety in the prosthetic arm. But thanks for the comment.
Bloodborne has been and remains the best game from software has ever made. My feelings on the game has only really been strengthened by playing elden ring. The smaller more focused world with less Filler is what i want more of in the future from them. The only real problems with the game is as follows: 30fps and huge framdrops with bad frame pacing. No respec option. Not being able to rest at lampposts. Great chalice bosses being gatekept by boring grindy early dungeons. Also it only being on playstation is a con in and of itself. Otherwise i just dont agree with the viewpoint in this video.
A lot of valid criticism and many more nitpicks and reaches but one really stands out as crazy. The comparison of Bloodborne's late game with that of dark souls 1 and 2. Really? Bosses aside for a minute is yahargul and Mensis on the same level as Shrine of Amana, Tomb of the giants and lost izalith? No, Yahargul and Mensis especially are amazing levels. And the one reborn although bad is better than any of the late game bosses of ds1 and ds2. And Gherman as easy to parry as Gwyn? Come on, this is a point of reaching and the shown gameplay is deceiving, you wouldn't have enough bullets to finish the fight and you didn't mention that Gherman can punish shooting by parrying you while you shoot and do massive damage.
Yeah I do believe that Bloodborne is on the level of DS1 and I can’t say for 2 as I haven’t done the second half. But yeah, I would rather fight Sif, four Kings and Nito over The One Reborn. However his soundtrack is absolutely awesome! And yeah it is easier to parry Gherman over Gwyn, because you can do it from far away as previously mentioned. Also I’ve never seen that parry counter while you shoot. Not callously our or anything, as this is literally something I missed so thank you. He literally only did it to me if I attacked him. Also as shown in the footage, you can escape the parry on yourself. In terms of bullets shown. Yes it’s deceiving for the base amount of bullets. But not if you use blood bullets, which again is a staple of the game. So that isn’t against the rules to use. Is it over the top? Yes. However, the game supplies these mechanic to the player. It was a way of demonstrating how far the game can be circumvented. But thank you for the take. I probably shouldn’t have shown the fight to that extent. But it was mainly through the fact that I love the fight, genuinely do. And this fact spoils it for me. But seriously thank you for the comment. Have a good day.
@@Smabbott more reasons this comparison is unfair: Bloodborne has 2 really bad compulsory bosses while ds1 has 5-7 depending on your taste. Gherman and the even the moon presence are much much better than Gwyn parry or not. Ds1 has awful late areas while Bloodborne has amazing areas. Late Ds1 has the most tedious boss runs while Bloodborne has very small late boss runbacks with good shortcuts.
@@Κασσάνηρ Dark Soul 1 had some very strong late areas. Duke Archives, Crystal Cave, Tomb Of The Giants, Lower New Londo (Darkwraiths area), Deep Darkroot Garden (Leadup to Sif), and I would argue upper Izalith (With the capras and no lava). But yeah, it has the worse boss runs lmao
BloodBorne simply doesn’t have the replay-ability that DS3 & Sekiro have in my opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s not a masterpiece, but it gets boring much fast after 100+ hours
Don't care for the clickbait title. As some have said already, the most valid complaint against the game is the locked 30fps. Everything else is subjective. There is a reason Bloodborne is praised as one of the greatest games ever made.
"Everything else is subjective. There is a reason Bloodborne is praised as one of the greatest games ever made" not really, plenty of objectively negative stuff about bb, and youre thinking of dark souls and elden ring, theyre praised as some of the best most influential games ever made, elden rings influence is yet to be seen but considering the sheer amount of game devs that adored that game, its gonna do to open world what ds1 did to dungeon crawlers and 3rd person games. bb is a fantastic game though dont get me wrong, it just doesnt have a fraction of the impact elden souls has, other than in bbs fanbase, its not in the general conversation of "best games of all time". this isn a dig on the game itself, its one of my fav games ever.
Bloodborne is overrated. The only thing preventing the vast majority of people from seeing it is the fact it is an exclusive game. Meaning that the people who would break the illusion has never played it, and the people who talks about how "amazing" it is are the only ones who have the console and had played it and are perpetuating how overrated it is. So it has this reputation that is essentially irrefutable as it's not like Dark Souls 1 where everyone can play it and challenge all the "claims" and see for themselves. Not to mention, Bloodborne fans/Fromsoftware fans will literally jump at you with a gun the moment you go out not agreeing with their opinion, so it makes people who do not share the sentiment shut up, and makes the loud people praising it even louder, it's essentially an echo chamber.
@@rae5425That’s some wild conjecture and a nice story you have and would make some sense if it wasn’t for the case that the huge number of the souls community have in fact played through Bloodborne. Most souls players, as most genres are, are on console. Considering the PS4 out sold the Xbox One by twice as much and it’s the same with the most current sales reports for the Ps5 and Xbox Series X/S, AND that Bloodborne was free on PS5 at release along with the Demon Souks Remaster, I’m willing to bet more people have played Bloodborne than your story suggests. Is Bloodborne perfect? No. Is it the best? No I don’t think so but i suspect many people hold it up as one of the greatest due to its setting and atmosphere above all else. The people that praise it highly always comment on that at the top of their praise and can be enough for people to overlook flaws, not because it’s being held up by a small community of exclusive players…
“Popular therefore good” yeah no. FPS sucks but every other complaint is equally valid. You can sit through playing the entire game but you can’t watch an hour long video to see how someone else’s opinion is different than yours? Weird
Bloodborne is not perfect and like every game it has flaws but calling it a "Mediocre Disappointment" is wild, the real disappointing thing is the lack of a remake or 60fps/resolution patch
Disappointing is more of a pseudonym to overrated. But it was taken. On a reflection it makes it worse. But it is what it is. I would change the title of the vid. But the intro has the title in it. So I can’t.
This was the first souls game I played after Elden ring after hearing all the praise it has. It was very much hyped up as the best souls game. After beating all of them, this is basically only better then DS1/2. I was so disappointed. I think people like this game solely because of lore and aesthetics? Farming for healing is the worst fucking thing in any souls game I’ve experienced. These bosses were not only easy, but a complete mess. Every fight is a battle with the camera and every fight is trivialized by me simply breaking camera lock and hitting a boss in the back. Many attacks are terribly telegraphed, and this game also contains probably 2 of the worst boss fights in the franchise. Also, gun parry is fucky. Was not reliable so I very rarely ever used it. Most of my disappoint came from how stupidly easy and how boring/unchallenging these bosses are. I’ll never understand people who live and die but this game
Because of tedium mate. Some bosses like Rom or Mikolash are built to be annoying and RNG heavy. If you don’t have that good run. You will die. Through no fault of your own.
Can't believe you didn't mention the 2 Shark-giant boss fight🤣🤣🤣!!! Bloodborne was my first soul's game and the first one I beat. I didn't get the hang of the parry mechanic until my 3rd playthrough, so my difficulty experience was different. I still play this game more than any other From Software game (11037 hours and counting) and enjoy it immensely. That being said, I can't find fault with any of your criticisms of the game. I appreciate the fair and balanced take and the examples being counter-balanced with positive and objective takes. Amazing video you've earned my respect and a sub!!!
Glad to hear it man! Thanks so much for the great comment! I’ll be honest with you, I’ve seen so many people talk about and fight that encounter I was like. Nah not even gonna try it😂 but thank you very much!
I'm sorry you are feeling remorseful about how you've spent your time up until now. But it's never to late to turn things around. I've achieved the majority of goals I've set for myself personally, financially and romantically. Start with a goal list and I'm sure you can do the same. Good luck!@@wordsshackles441
@@wordsshackles441 We all move on from this world sooner or later, though. And by then, our accomplishments mean absolutely nothing. Not to us, anyway. That's why having as fun as possible, while you can, is not a bad idea.
You well argue your opinion so i respect it. Tho i wonder why compare Bloodborne with sekiro, dark souls 3 and elden ring that came out later and use a lot of what Bloodborne did
@@juanrincon131 thank you, it’s mainly a response to how people still think this is the peak of the franchise. So using what came after feels appropriate if this is still considered gold standard.
For me personally, as somenone who doesn't spam the gun and tries to parry cautiously, parry doesn't make the game too easy, it's just a rather rewarding mechanic. As for the areas, besides nightmare frontier, Byrgenwerth and forbiden woods, I enjoyed them all and found them MUCH better than DS 3 areas, the entire 2nd half of Dark Souls and than Sekiro areas. Many weapons feel the same(saw cleaver, spear) most do not. And out of all of the games, it might be the one with the least amount of recycling. If you give huge bluk towards boss quality DS 3 and Sekiro are ahead. For area design none tops it imo. And, as for rewarding exploration obvisuly Elden Ring is number 1, with Bloodborne maybe 3rd or 4th. For FromSoft standards, it should be 4th at worst with very specific criteria. Not a dissapointing for me even in From Softs catalog. I won't argue if you think Sekiro is better, and Elden Ring might be too. But as for the rest, them being better than Bloodborne is questionalbe at least. Great video regardless, I simply would say that some of your points aren't huge negatives, or at least not as big as some negatives in other games
Yeah completely understand that. Yeah the title is more of a buzzword than anything. I mean, it was disappointing to me. But it isn't a disappointment. And yeah the recycled.content is definitely the least in Bloodborne. In terms of the areas, well most of the video is subjective points so yeah, personally I just find the areas blend too much. But can completely see where you're coming from! Thanks for the comment!
"might be the one with the least amount of recycling" not if u count the chalice dungeons, something alot of bb fans dont factor in when talking about bloodborne as a whole because it lowers its quality quite a bit. as for boss quality elden ring is also far above bb, even alot of its mini bosses are better and higher quality than alot of main bosses. "I won't argue if you think Sekiro is better, and Elden Ring might be too. But as for the rest, them being better than Bloodborne is questionalbe at least." i think elden ring is above both sekiro and especially bloodborne, but thats all preference, also why would you argue or think its questionable to think the rest are better games? thats the thing about bb fanboys though, alot of them cant take opinions. for example i think ds1 overall is a much better more innovative game, it evolved the demons souls formula while bb for the most part just copy pastes dark souls formula with only tweaked combat abit and changed up weapon design, each of the games have their own merits and each will appeal to certain folks depending on those merits, for example i think bloodborne is a pretty mediocre souls game, i think ds1 and 3, sekiro and especially elden ring are far better, but bb is better than demons and ds2 imo. its all opinions.
@@flamingmanure DS 1 average boss quality is among the worst in FromSoft with some recycling(Asylum demon is identical to Vanguard, and he also appears 3 times, or Taurus and Capra demons apearing everywhere. The only recycling of Bloodborne bosses are Lawrence and Shadows of Yahrnam). As for areas, Bloodborne is confortably better than any game but DS 1. Bosses, would be 3rd-4th. Combat, would be 2nd. Build variety, IDK, because you can make a character able to use any wepaon effectively as the highest requirement is 20 besides hunter tools. As for Elden Ring, which secondary boss is that good? There are like a million Crucible Knights, Misbegottens, Tree (asylum) sentinels, like 4 black knife assasins, 5 Elemes of the Briar, damn even 2 Godricks and Godfreys(although 1st phase Godfrey is great unlike its shadow). Catacombs are much worse than chalice dugeons. Their ony enemies are those imps who are DS 3 Greirats btw, watchog(cat miniboss). And has mostly recycled bosses. Bloodborne chalice dungeons have +10 enemies not in the base game, and 5 new bosses(3 without including NPCs, 7 if you include NPCs and enemies that appear once in base game as regular enemies, those being that weird demon, and abohorrent beast). Elden Ring highs are very high, but its lows are undeniably horrendous. As for DS 3, far better bosses, worse areas, more lineal(can be good or bad depending on who you ask) and few recycling. DS3 can be considered better I'll give you that, as long as you put very heavy focus on boss fights.
Farming for basic health items and bullets is an absolute no-go. It means the developers are hindering the player to get better by making him spend less time with the bosses and more with farming.
It’s interesting how the stuff some people hate about Bloodborne, is the stuff I like. I think what I love most about BB though, is how is made me feel, but that stuff is very subjective. However, you put a lot of work into your video, so great job on that!
Bloodborne was very disappointing to me. All the bosses were easy, but navigating the world and getting to the bosses was harder than any game I've ever played. That isn't my idea of fun, and I would have never made it through the game without the internet.
But it’s not. A more apt comparison would be dodging in BB vs parrying in Sekiro. You can easily beat BB without touching the gun. Good luck beating Sekiro without parrying
The simple fact of comparing a game with future titles from the same series is honestly beyond my understanding ; that's is by far the stupiest shit ever. Imagine saying something like : the Witcher 3 do these stuff better than The witcher 2 and 1 like man , YOU DON'T SAY ; you are a genius how could anyone figure that out🤯
@@YourFriendlyGymRat it’s understanding that people still consider it to be the best of the series even today. So yes it’s very relevant to include later entries when people still say that this game did it the best.
You're working on the false presumption that fromsoft improves on everything with each release. Ofc graphics and mechanical complexity will greater, but this won't make a game good itself. ED has great graphics yet they reuse bosses and enemies constantly, damage and attacks are all over the top while your character can only jump and roll and npc quests are so obtuse and easy to miss you won't even know you've missed them most of the time. Despite it's size, it pales in comparison to immersion of DS1 and boss design of DS3.
I'm going to dislike this and not watch it because I don't want to reward clickbait. But from the comments it sounds like you made a lovely video and I enjoyed your lies of p video so I look forward to future content.
Fair play. Thank you. But if you think I put it in for a quick click. It wasn’t meant to be that way. Because most comments are just people saying they hate the video. But thank you!
Bloodborne is the game I’ve started playing the most of any souls title, and yet the only one I’ve never finished. Hell I’ve beaten Dark Souls 2 more times. Something about it never felt right to me, and I think you hit the nail on the head with some of those reasons. A shame to see that already some people are being way too defensive in the comments and not hearing you out.
Thanks. It’s one of those things unfortunately. Everyone is entitled to their opinion so it doesn’t bother me. Just wish they’d talk about something else rather than the parry😂 But thank you.
Bloodborne was my second soulsborne game after ds3 but Bloodborne didn’t quite catch me, I think the game is overrated. It’s definitely not a bad game but it just doesn’t quite live up to the praise it gets
i say this in the nicest way possible because i really appreciate the work that went into this video, and i respect your opinions... this video is just full of biases, bad takes, overlooking things and a clear misinterpretation of the mechanics of the game. i understand subjectivity and preferences, but to call this an honest critique is a bit dubious.
This is a troll video, right? it has to be. like how else are you gonna complain about inconsistent boss design and then immediately turn around and complain about consistent architecture within a single city, in the first 2 minutes of the video? not to mention the very visible difference between an open clearing with a few trees and a single path down the middle vs the many twisting and winding maze of pathways through a deep forest. even the tombstones look completely different between the two areas! every single separate area you've shown clips of to this point has distinct features, enemies, or landmarks that make it immediately apparent exactly where you are, entirely debunking your complaint about the lack of defining features and landmarks as you make it. and the icing on the cake, the assertion that Bloodborne has no wow moment is just. absolutely s tier trolling. just brilliant. it really is quite impressive. almost makes me want to start a youtube career and make a reaction to it, but instead I think I'll just buckle in, smoke a bowl, and enjoy the ride. cheers!
bloodborne clowns showcasing how pathetically bad they are at taking critique, its getting embarrassing how stereotypical it has become. "how else are you gonna complain about inconsistent boss design and then immediately turn around and complain about consistent architecture within a single city," because boss design has nothing to do with architecture, not in his context atleast. "ot to mention the very visible difference between an open clearing with a few trees and a single path down the middle vs the many twisting and winding maze of pathways through a deep forest" lol talk about being laughably selective, the game is 90% copy pasted samey grey castles, corridors, hallways, coffins and gravestones. the visual distinction between areas is laughable next to fromsofts other games. "even the tombstones look completely different between the two areas! every single separate area you've shown clips of to this point has distinct features, enemies, or landmarks that make it immediately apparent exactly where you are" nope, nope and laughably nope, especially in central yharnam and cathedral ward. " the assertion that Bloodborne has no wow moment is just." compared to anor londo, erithyl or literally most of elden ring? nope, bb doesnt have a wow moment. its, again, mostly just copy pasted grey castles, churches, corridors, hallways, and rooms with a few small open spaces that are just as samey as the interiors are. yahargul is the closest bb got to a wow moment and its a copy pasted area from when u got kidnapped by the kidnappers.
I just completed my first playthrough of bloodborne since i finally managed to save enough money for a ps5 😂 and i pretty much agree with everything here i think people have massive nostalgia for this game witch is fine dont get me wrong for me my nostalgia is demons souls in my eyes demons souls is perfect im absolutely biassed but i dont care since i played demons souls to death back in 2010 and absolutely loved it 😂
"God gave me a gun so I will use the gun." - the main criticism. I've been playing Bloodborne, since Release over the years on multiple occasions, and I have to agree on most of the points you made. As hard as it is to Admit. Still a great game though.
You've summoned the Yharnam mob 😂. They just want you to sing its praises so they can nod along and have their feelings validated. Bloodborne is in my top 5 games of all times but I recognize its flaws/shortcomings.
As a seasoned souls player and member of the the reddit communities I can tell u that Bloodborne fans do talk about the endgame drop off in quality that every game in the series has. The combat is the most engaging and has the best weapons plus satisfying parrying mechanic and not to mention the rally mechanic which should have been kept in other entries as it makes aggressive gameplay viable instead of sitting behind a shieldall game scared. The game also has a dlc only rivaled by ds3. I'm glad this video is an unpopular opinion because it's a disservice to a game that came out so long ago and got so much right. I agree not being able to rest at the lantern is annoying and the fact vials r a finite resource is annoying for new players but after a couple areas shouldn't b a problem unless u r wasteful and don't utilise the rally mechanic. I appreciate the game isn't perfect but u r entitled to your own opinion but I don't think u give it enough credit in some areas and the tone is better and more consistent than all the other games. Very well made video though and definitely was fun to see your views as it is refreshing to see something that isn't just praise 👍best lore aswell. I can keep going with praise for the game but enough people do that in video form
Thank you. Yeah is gree there are some things in Bloodborne which are incredible. And thanks for the clarification of the endgame debate. As I just hear radio silence. But yeah thank you for the watch and I'm glad you like the game. I think the game is great on its own. But when I compare it to the rest of From. It just has so many shortcomings which make it worse imo. But thanks bud I appreciate it.
i wouldnt call it the most engaging combat, its easily the most spammy and least strategic game in the series, disagreed with the weapons, the good weapons are really good to play with, like saw cleaver, pizza cutter and ludwigs blade, but overall alot of the weapons are just better to spam R1 with rather than transform, in alot of cases its better to stick to one side of a transformation than the other, elden ring has better weapons due to jumping attacks and ashes of war, not to mention the laughably better and more creative art designs, it beats bb in both quality, design and variety.
@@dhenwkdneisbdiwbsks3832 i find it laughable when bb fanboys speaks about bias when ur fanbase is easily the most immature, biased and delusional of all the souls fanbases, hell this is a stereotype known to all of us XD all souls games require R1 inputs to win yes, bb is the one thats the MOST spammy and mindless between them though. ER fixed that by requiring you to press more than the R1 button to win, R2s, charging attacks, jumping R1s and 2s, ashes of war, the R1 is now just a appetizer attack to complement the main meal, unlike bb. never break boss posture with only R1s and the bosses get way harder that way, quality over quantity in combat my friend :) ER bosses are far above bb bosses in both quality and variety. " more iconic bosses and definitely better creative art design being way more interesting in lore and atmosphere" again, i find it laughable that u say the bias is unreal then vomit this delusional nonsense out XD elden ring has better art and design limgrave alone than the entirety of bbs regurgitated samey atmosphere. the art style of ER is gigantically far above bb, which is one dimensional at best, not to mention all the copy pasted grey castles, churches, coffins and the one trillion gravestones all over the place, it got boring and almost cringey. more iconic bosses? im just gonna go ahead and disagree since most of them are generic beasts, and bb has the worst main boss stretch of the entire series, its shadows into rom into one reborn into micolash, just garbage boss quality all over the place, legit elden ring has higher quality mini bosses then bb main bosses. the lore can be interesting when it doesnt make me cringe, its obsession with its dark atmosphere is edgy to me, and this can be seen with its npcs, the worst most uninspired npcs in the series, al they do is just talk about BLOOD HUNT BLOOD HUNT MOON BLOD HUNT, they have no real personality, a very one dimensional style over substance game if you ask me. "you have hundreds of the same type of weapon doing the same motion the only difference is the ashes of war which is only one move difference whereas" you have more weapon classes and special weapons with special animations in ER than bb(most bb weapons are literally just dark souls weapons mushed together lol), and theres 30 combat ashes of war, and then theres jumping attacks lol, and then you can dual wield, giving u 2 ashes of war, bloodbornes cute little R1+L1 attacks and double transformation animations are laughable next to that level of quality and variety, lol talk about bias, also u still never actually answered my critiques. there are great weapons where weapon transformation actually works, like rakuyo, cleaver, ludwigs blade and a few more, but overall for alot of the weapons, especially the heavy ones, its far better to just stick to one side of the transformation and spam R1, most enemies dont even have poise unlike elden souls, alot of the weapons have objectively better sides to them, why would you ever want to use the shortrange axe when the long range is just laughably better in everyway? the only reason to switch would be for parrying which has its own problems, this applies to so many weapons and i wouldnt call that "quality" designs. also blade of mercy and saif?? really? brah those weapons are garbage next to the good ones, they have great gameplay and animations but just awful damage, which applies to alot of weapons actually when compared to things like saw cleaver, pizza cutter and ludwigs blade. for a game all about "quality" weapons, this really shouldnt be the case, especially when theres only about 25 of them, making its weapon balance even worse than elden souls, how is a game with super duper "high quality" weapons have such bad balancing when theres only 25 of them XD "blood borne the trick weapons allow for variety in dealing with enemy such as the axe for short range and the transformed to many range and what about the rakuyo or the beast hunter saif or the blades of mercy where you switch between weapons so no bb" elden rings combat and build customizability is laughably higher in variety when it comes to dealing with enemies and this is a fact, again, bb fanboy bias is always funny to point out. also u said that alot of elden ring weapons have the same motion, but forgot to mention the variables between them, the differences are range, attack type, R2 attacks(thrust vs bash vs vertical slash vs horizontal slash) damage type and even the art design (which is FAR above bb weapons in art design, alot of which just look ok). there, hopefully this shattered your delusional bias. the game has alot of flaws, wether you accept them or not is up to you. elden ring has alot of flaws too but the difference is eldens fanbase actually talk about them lol, guys cant take it when ppl point out ur mediocre souls game's flaws. have u even watched this video? its funny to say it has more iconic bosses in bb after watching this vid brah, legit margit alone is more iconic than most bb bosses, how many times have i seen :"lay these ambitions to rest" online by now? its fromsofts best magnum opus for a reason, and even moyazaki himself agrees, he said "elden ring is the closest ive ever been to my most ideal game", get over it champ.
Bloodborne is really good, but I look at it like this whenever I see BB fans say it’s the best FromSoft game : If Bloodborne and Elden Ring hypothetically came out the same year Elden Ring would still be game of the year. While Bloodborne is incredibly good, I just don’t see it on Elden Ring’s level. I put Elden Ring in the Tier of games where something like the Witcher 3 would be, I don’t think Bloodborne is on that same level.
I have problems with Elden Ring. But it is my second favourite to just pick up and play. Completely understand why you think that and I completely agree!
no worries most ppl dont see bb on that level, the bb fanbase just has a massive inferiority complex since its just known as grey dark souls (which it pretty much is) outside of its fanbase. not to mention abysmal sales figures too.
Honestly great vid but the Elden ring video is sick
while i agree with certain criticisms, mainly on the overused yharnam look throughout the whole game. Saying parrying ruins a bossfight is like calling gwyn bad because he can be parried. If i said malekith was a bad fight because i used a summon or i used firecrackers on any sekiro boss and called them all bad it would be pointless. A bossfights mechanics, themes, and gameplay has nothing to do with a mechanic that, if someone really didnt like or had a problem with, can be chosen to ignore or use sparingly. I also think that most bloodborne veterans have mastered parries by now and thats the simple reason why. On my first playthrough and maybe even second i couldnt remember mastering every parry window. thats just my opinion tho.
Thank you for your opinion. Yeah you're absolutely right. I think my main criticism comes from the fact that with firecrackers and the sorry Gwyn is the fact that Gwyn is the only boss that can be parried and there is more variety than just the firecrackers. But each side arm, including things like augur of Ebrietas staggers hunter bosses for a parry. If so many weren't able to have that done, I would accept it's like Gwyn. But yeah I see where you're coming from.
difference is it takes much more skill and practice to parry and avoid gwyns attacks, becuz parrying bosses in elden souls is harder than bb, the thing is with bb parries, they are just way too exploitable.
@@AhmadAlmilli Easy and less risky
@@Lucivius27 not to mention its ranged. u can parry a boss 5 meters away from u if u know hes gonna lunge at u. trivialized most parryable beast bosses. 1st time through bb, papa G beat my ass a good 5 times or so, then i remembered parrying and i raped him instantly with barely any vials lost, im not even saying ima a good player, i just mindlessly shot him each time he does those 20-hit combo flurries and it always works XD, no skill or timing needed really.
Is it bad criticism if you have to purposely limit yourself from utilizing certain tools the game clearly put in place for you to use in their full potential? It is your job as the game designer to adjust and balance things so that players would be pulled towards fun and not cheese strategy.
Worst thing about the game is that it's an exclusive.
The Elden Ring music blasting every single time the game is mentioned had me laughing my ass off😂
Although I wouldn't agree with this kind of video title "Mediocre disappointment", I know, the UA-cam algorithm is pretty hard at times to reach more people, I get the hustle, that said, I think BB is far from a mediocre disappointment, it is a phenomenal game but I do agree with many of the points raised in this video, it's a reality that I think a lot of BB fans can't come to terms with, or will have to harshly wake up to it when the inevitable remaster releases and people play it again and see it for what it is after refreshing their memories a bit, the game is one of my favorites, but I do think it is a bit too overrated by some fans.
MY ADVICE: Change your video's title because you make a lot of great critique points that I think people rarely mention, because you're getting dislike bombed over an otherwise good video.
Thank you. I would. But unfortunately the final line tied into the title. Bec you’re right. I wanted Bloodborne is overrated. But that was taken believe it or not. But yeah if I could I would. But I don’t think I can.
@@Smabbott That's fine, but thanks for the reply though.
@@Smabbott Now that I've watched more than half of the video, I disagree about ER's bosses having unavoidable attacks, there's literally none, delayed attacks are there to punish the age old Dark Souls players mentalities of just panic rolling, I also disagree about gun parries being too powerful, I mean all Souls games had too OP stuff in them, it's an optional thing.
@@HeyTarnished the main point of unavoidable attack comes from Malenia Waterfowl dance. I can dodge the move with the run in the circle strat, but that is not the intended way to dodge that move. It comes out at any time when her health goes lower than 75% and to this day still is an unavoidable attack unless you run instinctively before it begins. And with the parry thing, yep I agree it’s an optional move to make so it’s completely down to preference. But like the video says, it’s a core mechanic of the game. The example given not using jump attacks in Elden Ring. It makes no sense not to. But thank you for the comment and I’ve changed the title. Just wanted to let you know you were the reason. Real got me thinking. Thank you for that, I think this title is more fair, but also gets across the point still. Seriously thank you🙂
@@Smabbott Ay yo thank you, glad I’ve told you about the video title.
Its funny, because I agree with you saying that using the gun trivializes alot in this game, but at the same time I genuinely have a ton of fun fighting the bosses when only using the gun sparingly, I cant say that your way of playing is invalid because the gun is there to be used, however I personally feel the best way to experience the bosses and fights is to get like one or two parries with the gun off per fight.
My experience also differs from yours greatly as I didn't have many problems with the blood starved beast at all, as I always managed to figure out what actions were telegraphing what attack and didn't need to buff or parry (much) at all. hell in one of the optional chalice dungeons there's a rematch with the beast and I beat it first try, this isnt to flex, but I suppose it goes to show just how subjective your experience with bloodborne can be based on your playstyle. I also noticed you backstepped alot in the clips fighting the beast, which is something the game actively tries to disuade you from doing to encourage a more aggressive approach as most bosses attacks follow you into the backstep, whereas sidestepping or dodging towards it would put you in a much better position and allow you to get some hits in if timed well.
I also really liked the Vicar Amelia fight, and while yes, alot of the attacks can be described as "Swipe left, swipe right, swipe down" I feel there's a bit more variety there than what you gave credit, for example, she can scratch the ground infront of you, she can do a thunderclap that does massive damage yet is telegraphed far in advance, she can retreat while swiping the ground infront of her, dealing damage to you if you get caught, she can heal herself, and even the moves that do fall under the "swipe left swipe right" description have some variety, as the wind-up and paragraph can be different along with her combining both of her arms to swipe both left and right, achieving basic motor function, great job Amelia!
As for shadows of Yharnam, yeah Its not one of my favorites, I wouldn't say its a bad fight, but it can be fucking tedious. however using exploits to kill bosses of any kind, unless they're absolutely insufferable, just feels cheap to me and I'm not exactly sure that using one to consistently kill a boss, regardless if seasoned players say to do it or not, is more fault of the player or the developer, as I feel you should fight the boss legit once or twice before making a concrete analysis, however I cant 100% blame anyone for just taking an opportunity that was given to them, its human nature.
I'm not saying your way of playing the game is wrong, as, again, the gun is meant to be used, however I'm not sure they intended you to use it as much as you did. Does this make your experience with the game objectively bad? No. Does it make my experience with the game objectively bad? No. However if you do ever try the game again, I'd recommend trying to limit the use of the gun and see how that goes, maybe it will improve the experience for you? as I personally found it much more rewarding and gratifying to learn the bosses moves and swiftly dodge around them rather than gun spam.
When looking at your video, seeing Rom, The one, and Micolash lined up one after another isn't a good look, however one thing I have to say about The one in particular is that I didnt even realize the witches healed him, nor did I realize you could actually kill the witches, or you could stunlock him, so thanks for letting me know. I'm more forgiving of Rom than most because I feel lore wise its a great fight and its clear that you are in the wrong the more you fight her, you're fighting something that wants to protect you, but you just dont know it, hell she doesnt even attack you until her second phase. it inspires a feeling of confliction, knowing that you have to kill this thing to proceed, but also knowing that by killing this thing, you're dooming alot of people. however gameplay wise, yeah its tedious and annoying. I'd say Micolash is worse just because its pure tediousness but I can see why you'd call Rom the worst. I feel that going to do some of the optional stuff inbetween Rom and The one reborn smoothens the experience alot, however that's just my experience.
I love this game, its up there with my favorites, a solid 9/10 for me. but its nice to hear a differing perspective sometimes, as while I feel the sea of praise the game has gotten is deserved, the lack of more critical looks into the game makes it feel like a game within an echochamber of circlejerkers rather than, well, a game.
Sorry for the wall of text, I'm very autistic when it comes to writing about this stuff but its because I enjoy sharing my opinions on stuff I'm passionate about, if you wanna mock me for that then thats fine lol, I'd do the same, its just nice to sit down and talk sometimes
I’d never mock you for sharing your opinions. Thank you very much for the nice comment. Seriously sometimes I’ll just get a wall of text talking about the fact that I have no idea what I’m talking about. But yours is really balanced and I appreciate that thank you.
When you say about the Blood starved beast, yeah I do back step a lot of the time. That’s definitely on me, the reason being is the poison build up. Despite the rallying system being implemented here, idk taking damage from constant poison is really tedious to me.
Yeah you’re right with Shadows of Yharnam. It’s not a problem per say, due to it being a basic AI point. My qualm is it’s being used to avoid the snake move. Because the snake move is really random.
Rom’s lore is so good. Yeah I completely agree, the reasoning behind it is so inter and compelling. But the fight sucks😂 it’s like Bed of Chaos as that is also a terrible fight and great lore.
Yeah I would. But unfortunately, I don’t real enjoy playing Bloodborne. It’s just the full package to me just isn’t as compelling as other From games. But yeah, I find people’s opinions of this game really interesting, because if you say literally anything negative on it, they go nuts. Like you said a circle jerk. But idk if I’d ever go back. I think I’ve got enough out of Bloodbath now. I’ve played it three times. But thank you for your comment. I love to hear people’s takes when they’re not just, shut up you’re wrong. So seriously thank you. Have a good day!
@@Smabbott fair enough, thanks for the response. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy it as much as other from titles, as I genuinely believe it's a really great game, but I'm not gonna force you to like something you've played 3 times and clearly just don't like it that much. I'm just glad you gave it a fair shake rather than just posting a review after rage quitting to the BSB. Even if I don't agree with some of your points and opinions, it's clear those points and opinions came from wanting to enjoy the game as much as some other people do.
As for the poison, I get that, usually by the time I've gotten to old yharnam I've invested a fair amount in hp so the poison doesn't bother me as much as others but if you're going for a pure strength or bloodtinge build I can understand why that would be considered tedious.
Take it easy, hopefully the next game you take a crack at will impress you just as much as bloodborne impressed me.
@@Rottingwood thanks! So far it really has. Playing Lies of P atm. So good! And yeah I think Bloodborne is a good game, that’s the one part of the video some people don’t think I do. But I do. It’s just imo not as good. But I love the fact tagged you love the game. Take it easy Boss.
I love souls games, and I don’t like Elden Ring or Bloodborne. I understand why I don’t like Elden ring, but I can’t figure out what’s wrong with bloodborne, I just don’t like playing it
Fair play. It took me a very long time to work out why I didn’t. Maybe like you said you might just not like it.
Good video, but if the main argument is that all the bosses play the same then wouldn’t that technically be the case for dark souls? The way you kill bosses in those games is be waiting while blocking and some dodging. Also, I don’t think the parry mechanic makes a boss fight bad. If anything is rewarding players, who have gotten the timings down and know the weaknesses of said bosses, but that also goes back into the weaknesses issue you were point thing towards earlier, so that one makes sense.
I do appreciate the alternate perspective though and I do wish there were more bosses that weren’t super staggerable to encourage more strategic gameplay but you could say it has that in knowing when to dodge away to avoid getting hit.
Yeah I agree with the fact that Dark Souls could be viewed in that way with your input. But it's more to do with the bosses input. Because all Bosses will play the same from the player's point of view.
But I think the thing in which the Dark Souls series, Elden Ring and Sekiro have which Bloodborne just doesn't is the change in animations. The animations of bell gargoyles and something like Iron Golem have enough variety in the animations to stand out on their own. However, the rabid beast obviously has different animations from each boss, but it doesn't feel enough of a change to be considered a completely different boss imo, but again this is a subjective point. But yeah, I get where you're coming from.
@@Smabbott yeah it’s like a similar model and same idea going for it so I get that. I guess it might’ve just not fit with the lore but more radical change between beast fights would have been nice.
@@speinz9430 yeah. The one thing I want to get across is the game is still good. A lot of people have seen what I put (mainly thumbnail) and think I hate the game. No I think the game is good. I just don't think it's as good as the world says😂
@@Smabbott sorry if I took it a little personally. Bloodborne is special to me mainly because everybody says that the souls games are art forms which I didn’t believe until I played Bloodborne. I understand why you don’t like it don’t worry.
@@speinz9430 nah man not at all. No offense given, trust. It's good to be passionate about stuff bro. Yeah my favourite is Sekiro. But that doesn't have as strong as a following. Probably due to the lack of customisation. But yeah bro you good🙂
Combat is great, hunter fights fun, but the grinding for vials drove me crazy. I would love to have a option to restore vials at bon fires because i would love to go back and finish the game.
@@genopurple yeah it really would be better.
Great video!
As a BloodBorne glaz- I mean fan I of course had bias when watching this video and the only other Soulsborne game I’ve played is DS3, so keep that in mind.
But I have some opinions to share. First of all I think the level design is great! Yes there’s tons of shortcuts and having a lantern right outside the boss room would be nice but it doesn’t feel like the game’s trying to replicate the feeling you get when returning to firelink shrine.
Yes some levels might feel a bit similar, but I don’t know I think the levels are still different from each other and you mentioned that you just wanted to get to the end of the level to experience the boss, but I don’t really feel like that (except forbidden woods, nightmare frontier and nightmare of Mensis, okay that’s like three levels but still) and I found there were not a lot of annoying enemies in BloodBorne, I found a lot of the enemies in DS3 to be annoying and I just ran past a lot of them, while yes personal preference I really hate the shield enemies in DS3 there’s like one in every area that has the healthbar of a boss and waiting for them to attack or trying to circle around them is just not fun I really hate those enemiesI and I also found a lot of the enemies to have really annoying combos like the irithyll undead knights(?)
But you’re opinion on parrying… yeah I also feel like parrying is overpowered. I don’t want to just say: git gud to people I don’t agree with but if you find parries to be too tempting… I don’t know what to say. Like I’m sorry if I’m sounding condescending but it kinda sounds like a you problem? Sorry, I don’t know how to phrase this better.
Also finally someone that doesn’t instantly hate Mergo’s wet nurse because it’s “too easy”. Yeah I just wanted to say that.
Also I hope you’ve beaten Laurence! I never really struggled with him as much as I’ve struggled with Orphan of Kos or defiled watchdog (worst boss in the entire game) but that doesn’t make me hate him less I think he’s the worst boss in the game, excluding chalice dungeons. Otherwise if you haven’t, maybe try using the transformed church pick and wack him on his arms after he’s finished with a combo… second phase just hope and pray.
While I don’t agree with a lot of the takes in this video, it was interesting to see some problems other people have with the game and while I do think the game falls off after the mid-point and that the game has tons of problems, it’s still probably my favorite game!
bloodborne is ruined by overhype and DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER people really say bloodborne has the best boss line up and best areas but half of the bosses have the same move set more than half of the areas have the same look all the enemies act the same AMAZING COMBAT but nothing fun to fight the cpu pvp fights are harder than half of the bosses amazing combat but weapons are few and out the few only about 4 of them is good the base game is just bad Ik it was gonna be mediocre when a UA-camr titled his video BLOODBORNE THE BEST SOUSL GAME and the first thing he says is how the lore is better than the boss fights… the dlc really saved this game but never call this game better than ds1,DS3,er,sekiro over a perfect dlc if you have to buy something to make the game great doesn’t make it perfect!
Now let me tell you what bb does great lore amazing perfect dlc very few but the few good boss fights are perfect everything looks soooo cool and depressing amazing mechanics and fighting the characters are cooler than the fight the scenes is amazing the thing is they milk this so much where it gets repetitive bb lore is literally better than the game ☹️
@@xcxmafai I agree with the point that BB DOES NOT have the best boss line ups. Like even as a big BB fan, you have to gaslight yourself really hard in order to believe that.
Also I find that while there are only about ~20 weapons, they’re all viable, yes there’s tons of weapons better than most others, but it’s not like there’s a broken straight sword in this game (or whatever that super weak sword is called) and I don’t have like 100 weapons in my inventory that I’ll never use because they were dropped by random hollows! Still, it does suck that there’s no respec(?) and that you can’t even wield certain weapons without the right stats!
@@heresnothing2lookat937 🤝🏾 true true
I have some other new thoughts:
First of all I find saying the areas all blend into each other… with DS3 on the thumbnail feels… kinda hypocritical? Like they don’t look as similar as some areas in BB, but they are still all grey areas and comparing the beginning of Hemwick to forbidden woods, feels like comparing farron keel to crucifixion woods.
Same with enemies, every area has hollows in them in DS3.
Also if only there was a giant obstacle in the Shadows of Yharnam fight which you could hide behind (pssst, there’s a giant tombstone in the arena) Also I’ve not heard many people hate on shadows, I honestly think it’s a great gank fight
For the map design, it may not have had the best "wow" moments, but it easily had the best shortcuts or secret areas that blew me away when I found them. It did the best it could for it's limitations it set for itself.
It makes sense that you don't like BB and love Sekiro, because it's the complete opposite for me. Sekiro is the worst Souls game I've played and I didn't even finish it. Saying it's wrong for BB to be so hyped as a masterpiece is the same as people like you that hype Sekiro as the greatest game and call it "perfection". People have different opinions, and if it's being pushed that BB is a masterpiece, well then that just means that most people believe that. So there's nothing wrong with that being the normal view of the game. I'm also very tired of people comparing this game to newer games like ER. OF COURSE a game that came out 8 years later, where they've grown and learned from mistakes would be better. It's like saying Uncharted is a bad game because the 4th is a much improved version. There's still people that run around and say Majora's Mask is the greatest game ever made, knowing full well that it's completely unplayable by today's standards. Is something no longer a masterpiece just because it becomes outdated? That's the real question.
Not at all. And you’re right, it is a personal preference of what constitutes as a masterpiece. But mainly the points made can be like you said applied for any product. But in terms of ER, it does things which are better than Bloodborne and others. In fact no it doesn’t. The only thing it does better than anything else is the open world. Which as you can understand is a fool’s defence.
What’s important to note is that a masterpiece is never confined to the time it releases. But the sheer volume of people who state that there is nothing wrong with Bloodborne is rather strange to me. When parts which are criticised in other entries aren’t appropriately dealt the same hand in BB. But I think it’s more to do with people loving the atmosphere that it allows people to suspend their disbelief. After all, I’m not perfect in this matter. My favourite Bioshock game is the first, despite the fact it plays the worst, has a bad second half. But the atmosphere makes it a masterpiece in my eyes. So I get it. But when there are portions which are wrong with a game I feel they should be called out. Sekiro isn’t perfection. But the combat is. It has missteps like the demon of hatred which doesn’t work with its combat system, suiting more to BB with its design.
But the animation similarities within the bosses of BB make the game feel stale. Now this can be a subjective point. But it is still a point which can be made with concrete evidence with how the animations are not varied enough to truly be distinguishable from one another when fighting a beast. Through similar wind ups, anticipation and reaction as well as follow throughs of moves appear to blend too much between each boss. With straight up terrible bosses like TOR or Mikolash there is a case to be made. There is no problem with calling something a masterpiece. But there is a problem with people shutting you down when you have genuine points to make. I don’t mind people having an opinion. But I believe it to be ludicrous to accept something is a masterpiece just because a majority say it to be. But an interesting take you present. Btw this wasn’t trying to get at you. I just love these exchanges. Thanks for the comment.
@@Smabbott The atmosphere and feel of something making you blind to it's flaws or love it more, is just a logical conclusion. A game is sound design, world design, combat, and story. Most of these videos about the flaws of BB are ALL about the bosses or mechanics. Ignoring that the other aspects are 10/10s and attract certain people who already have a bias going into a game with this setting. If you love medieval games, you will be more likely to buy them and give them a higher rating than someone who doesn't, solely based on that fact. BB was the first ever game soundtrack I listened to on repeat and even set to my ring tone. The sound effects and atmosphere were perfect. So ya, I'm willing to ignore the small flaws in a boss design or flaws that are subjective like trick weapons or the vial system, when the rest of the game is a 10/10.
Christopher Nolan movies like Tenet are a great example of this. Most people walked out of there without even knowing what happened. Yet the acting, visuals, and music were so great that they enjoyed it none the less.
@@tlothompson6935 Fair play. That’s a great way to look at things and I admire that way of thinking. I appreciate what you’re saying with the aspect being a 10/10. Some 10/10s have flaws which I can admit. But the difference being when someone calls something flawless when it’s not, like you said is a subjective opinion. But if we accept that as definitive then what’s the point of even talking about this? But yes, I completely get the point of the Tenet argument. And you’re quite right. Just out of curiosity did you like Tenet? Because you’re right, I consider that film brilliant despite the fact of not understanding everything about the third act, but I would not call it flawless. But yes, it’s a very interesting way of looking at things.
@@Smabbott I love all of Christopher Nolan's films. The way his films are shot, the tense atmosphere, etc. are all perfect in my eyes. Ya, I'd never say BB is flawless. I know the weak points are SOME of the bosses. Same as the other souls games, but everything it is has makes up for it.
Btw, the lore, the scenery, the concepts and monsters design are masterpiece. Bloodborne has impressive gameplay, legendary soundtrack and sound design, it's truly scary. But it's the from software game that I just don't have... fun, ya know
@@bobjustus yeah I get exactly what you mean. Sorry your rating changed so drastically.
@@Smabbott It's weird, ya know? After 2 years I'm playing again and man. I got more stressed, confused and frustrated. Maybe it is the Elden Ring influence (i'm playing it also). But i'm replaying DS2 and Sekiro too, lol. I'm in a souls phase. Maybe I'm depressed #jk
@@bobjustus maybe. You’ll have to finish it and find out.
@@Smabbott I’ve finished bloodborne 3x im looking for the secret ending now
I feel more attached to Bloodborne than Elden Ring and dark souls mostly because I'm not much into the dark fantasy aesthetic and the faster paced combat is something I enjoyed more and it just felt refreshing from playing Elden Ring and the dark souls trilogy
Yeah the aesthetic of Bloodborne is untouched when it comes to From's catalogue. There's nothing else like it. Yeah, I myself am the same. I find gothic more interesting than fantasy in some circumstances. But how the levels are designed in Dark Souls makes Dark Fantasy feel brilliant. Bloodborne nails gothic. But to me it gets a bit samey. Thanks for the comment.
ds3 is just as fast as bb, and elden ring is even faster considering u regen stamina much faster than bb, i prefer bbs combat over ds3s, but elden ring and sekiro take the cake as the best fromsoft combat so far, with sekiro on top for me.
disagreed with bbs aesthetic being untouched, i think ds1 and elden ring are by far better aesthetically and feels like they put much more effort, to say bloodborne gets samey is a laughable understatement, the entire game can be summarized as 30 hours grey corridors, rooms, churches/caste spires and like 40 million copy pasted coffins and gravestones, it nails gothic sure, but if bb fanboys actually read lovecraft (most of them didnt) they would realize theres way more to gothic atmosphere then just what bb had to offer, it needed WAAAY more areas like hamlet, hemwick and cainhurst, bb fanboys call that thematic consistency, i call it unrealized and uncreative.
overall im confident in saying it took fromsoft the least effort to make bbs environments in comparison to any other from game when it comes to creativity, variety and art needed to make them@@Smabbott
@@AhmadAlmillibb’s areas is similar to one another because it’s the setting, some areas set in the game just happens to be similar to each other because it’s the location and time period. Like who knows how big Yharnam really is.
@@AhmadAlmilliImo BB and Sekiro combat negs Demon’s Souls and Dark Souls 1-4 combat
To call this video a lesson in fundamentally misunderstanding a game from start to finish would be an understatement to the unfiltered egregiousness of the recounting of your experience I just watched. Attempting to dismantle this review top to bottom would lead way to a repetitiveness equal to that of the video itself. So instead I'll focus solely on what I found most nonsensical. Predominantly, your obsession with the gun.
You shoddily attempt to refute the "just don't use it as much" argument, but none of the points you put forth come close to persuading me against that notion. There's an argument to be made that Fromsoft failed in balancing both the blood vial and bullet system. The idea was clearly to make these both finite to balance out how busted they are respectively. During my first play through (Keep in mind Bloodborne was also my first souls game), I never stopped to explicitly grind blood vials or bullets, yet always had enough to manage. You claim that only seasoned players will be able to ration their blood vials, but I believe the game does at good job at teaching the player to work around the systems even on their very first play through, while also supplying the player with enough of each. So my first question would be where the hell are you getting all these bullets? If you spam the gun so much how do you have so many at all times? I'd say there's more overlap than you let on between, say, someone playing through Elden Ring and spending more time looking up god builds on UA-cam than actually playing the game because they one shot every boss, and how you approached Bloodborne.
From Software has always given the player the tools to make their games piss easy, a key competent in their design philosophy is letting the player play however they desire, key word being desire. The combat of every. Single. Souls game can be "ruined to your liking" if you want to ruin it. Before Elden Ring I would've just said Fromsoft has little talent when it comes to balancing their games, but Elden Ring for me cemented this as a Fromsoft quirk, as 2 years and 10 patches later we've yet to see a single notable PVE balance change, despite it being, depending on how you look at it, by far their worst game in regards to balancing. Looking back at it it's quite clear Fromsoft would rather respect how the player chooses to play than enforce ANY regulations. In Dark Souls 1 If you really want to, you can farm souls for 10 hours and one shot the entire game. From cannot account for how every player chooses to approach their games and make every single path engaging, if they designed these games to be fun with any possible play style the overall quality would drop significantly.
"But it's a core gameplay mechanic!!" So is magic in Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1, and Dark Souls 2. Half the damn classes in the character creator for those games start you out with a magic build, and magic in all three of those games is far more busted, and far more compromising to the overall experience than the gun. In Bloodborne, choosing to two hand your weapon is also a core game play mechanic, but if you were to play the game obsessing over that instead, this video would be 5 minutes long and somehow even more silly.
This leads me to the worst, most hilarious part of this video (outside of the conclusion), being the section on Gehrman. Listening to you whine about how badly you ruined the fight by your own volition while trying to make it seem like the games fault just about encompasses everything wrong with this review. Just because the game gives you less options doesn't automatically mean you need to play, not only the worst way objectively, but the way you also clearly find the most unfun for yourself. "The appropriate way to play Bloodborne" doesn't really exist, and even if it did it definitely wouldn't be spam parrying every boss, it'd be however you personally enjoy and find most satisfying, which is clearly not that. "If you remove the gun, Bloodborne's identity is changed fundamentally" this simply isn't true, instead what you mean to say is that if you didn't go out of your way to hyper-fixate on a specific part of the game's combat that you don't even enjoy it would be a fundamentally different game for YOU specifically. "It's on the cover" "It's like the stabilizers on a bike" all these quotes serve as is further proof of an unexplainable inherit obligation you feel that you NEED to use the gun. An obligation I didn't feel when I played the game, an obligation none of my friends felt when they played it, and an obligation the hundreds of thousands of people who have Lady Maria and Gehrman in their top 10 Fromsoft bosses also clearly didn't feel.
It's a little sad how there isn't much left of this review outside of parrying. But I'll touch on some of your non gun related critiques of the bosses. Plain and simple, you have no idea how to fight Bloodstarved Beast, and clearly didn't care to learn based off how you quit the game after it killed you. In all the footage you showed you're dodging away, which is exactly how you get caught by most of its attacks, it's a boss you absolutely cannot play passively against. "Even when I was spamming dodge I still got stunlocked" in every single souls game, hell, in most games with a dodge mechanic, spamming it gets you stunlocked, when knocked to the ground it is crucial to time your getting back up, especially if you're choosing to play the game with such low health like you're doing in the video. Every other complaint you have I interpret to be centered around the one dimensional nature of the boss roster, while I agree Bloodborne has some weak fights, I feel a majority of your experiences can be attributed to instead a one dimensional play style. Dodge backwards > Spam gun > Visceral > Dodge backwards > Get Hit > Blood vial > Spam gun > Visceral. A majority of the clips are just this. I'm the furthest thing from a Fromsoft gatekeeper, if you enjoy it, I have no problem with however you choose to play the game. But if you're going to expedite to the furthest end of the spectrum of how little fun you can POSSIBLY have, I can't help but grimace a little.
Maybe I'll go over any remaining absurd statements like all the enemies and areas being too similar in a follow up comment. But for now I've been writing for wayyy too long.
Difference being that the gun is in every class rather than a few like in Dark Souls and yes it is fundamentally part of the Bloodborne experience. You can sit there and say it isn’t. But it is. Everyone uses the gun to parry hunter fights. I never said this was the appropriate way to play the game. As I say right after to use the gun sparingly. But unfortunately it’s like playing AC6 and slightly tweaking your build. Once you start, you can’t tell when to stop as the flow of gameplay has changed completely. Same with rallying, to the Blood Starved Beast fight, I dodge backwards because he has a rapid attack combo which poisons you on hit. The side step will take you around to the back of the boss due to its distance where you’ll hit it from behind. That’s just boring to me. Not engaging with the fight is what that does essentially. Considering the first video on YT when you type in Blood Starved beast fight has the player dodge away from enemy due to poison build up. So overall if you don’t want to get poisoned, you will do it subconsciously. I’m not saying the gun is the best way to play. Obviously it’s not, but it’s not a build. It is a core mechanic of every class making it a problem in the creation. But believe what you want.
I never used the gun cause I didn't find it interesting, so "Fundamentally apart of my Bloodborne experience" would be more honest. And I still don't understand the difference between spamming magic and spamming the gun, there's differences between the two mechanics sure, but their role in their respective games is on a fundamental level the same. They're both play styles. Dark Souls with magic is a SIGNIFICANTLY less engaging experience, and is horribly boring for 9/10 people. From the main menu you're given the option to choose a magic class, throughout the game dozens of spells are handed to you, and every time you kill a boss you get souls you can use to level into magic, it is undeniably a MAJOR GAMEPLAY MECHANIC, but despite that, and despite how much worse the game becomes with magic, Dark Souls is still regarded as one of the best games of all time, because most people who played it have two things you seem to by your own volition forsake, self control and the initiative to go out of their way to play the game how they like the most.
The gun is in every class sure. But so are shields in Dark Souls. I don't enjoy using shields so I don't use them despite the game feeding me so many. With that being said, if I played the game like you play Bloodborne, I would've gone through the entire thing with the fattest tower shield I could find and sat behind it for the entire game. And then made an hour long video talking about how I thought it was boring and that Dark Souls is the most overrated game of all time.
An older comment on this video said "I can't say your way of playing is invalid because the gun is meant to be used." I disagree with this, I believe it's completely fair to say your way of playing is invalid because you for no tangible reason go out of your way to engage with the mechanics you loathe..
Also, in the Gehrman section, you call the gun addicting, and say its a fundamental part of Bloodborne's identity, and then compare it to the training wheels on a bike..? Do you, still ride your bike with training wheels? Or are you addicted to training wheels, or do you use training wheels as to not compromise the identity of your bike? @@Smabbott
@@Yharims i can see why he ignored your attempts at an argument, most of your comment is pseudo intelligent drivel and further proves how uu bb clowns cant take basic critique yet, youll get over this phase eventually.
"The gun is in every class sure. But so are shields in Dark Souls. I don't enjoy using shields so I don't use them despite the game feeding me so many. With that being said, if I played the game like you play Bloodborne, I would've gone through the entire thing with the fattest tower shield I could find and sat behind it for the entire game. And then made an hour long video talking about how I thought it was boring and that Dark Souls is the most overrated game of all time." this is a laughable invalid comparison, since shields arent mandetory in DS and is a defence option, not to mention u have parry shields, which take actual skill and risk in DS, unlike the cheap and spammy gun of bb. if someone is parrying consistently in DS, theyre probably far more experienced players than bb players.
"It's a little sad how there isn't much left of this review outside of parrying." lol, he talked about the bad boss quality, the bad environment variety, the bad boss creativity ( 80% of which are just flailing beasts, theres more creativity with DS fodder enemies than bb bosses) and how traversing the world is laughable if u have a saw cleaver since most enemies dont have poise, and the trashy chalice dungeons, and how bbs second half is almost as bad as ds1s, which i agree with. the only good main boss after vicar is gherman and thats just pathetic for a souls game. easily the worst main boss quality in the series barring ds2 since i havent played it yet.
" fight by your own volition while trying to make it seem like the games fault just about encompasses everything wrong with this review" making parrying so spammable and mindless is objectively is the games fault, and the fact that u bloodborne clowns only retort is "just dont use it" says alot about your insulting delusions, oh sorry, i mean "attempts" at defending these garbage game designs. sorry that hurts your feelings.
wont really answer most of your points as theyre just bb fanboy drivel without much critical thought in them, youre just pissed someone called out bbs flaws.
ok lets test out your bias shall we, how many and what are bbs flaws? dont hurt yourself with your reply bb fanboy.
Bro cooked in this comment lol 😂
@@Smabbottbro stop. You're embarrassing yourself lol.
The only thing disappointing about bloodborne is that it isn’t on pc
mediocre meaning of only moderate quality; not very good. each point of the video you presented a bad point and good point of the games, but still go to say it is good. You clickbait.
A critique should also be balanced and give points for and against. Trust me if this was just a ‘this game is bad’ video, the response would be horrific and it’s not true. The mediocre point is what the game is. Moderate meaning average. That’s what Bloodborne is. Average is midway. There’s good points and bad points. It’s a disappointment from what people think the game is to what it is. So no, it’s a brutal title. But it’s not clickbait.
@@Smabbott but the game is not average so it’s terrible click bait. You’re really this desperate for engagement? 😂
@@ExpertContrarian in your opinion. But genuinely there’s too many inconsistencies to call this great or as some say a masterpiece.
@@Smabbott wrong, there’s nothing wrong with calling a great game, great. Do you know what the word average means? Apparently not. You’re welcome for the engagement you’re desperate for
@@ExpertContrarian yeah because Micolash, One Reborn, Rom, Witches and Celestial Emissaries are 10/10 bosses. My bad.
Yo, so I just finished the video, and great work, man! I'm a huge Bloodborne fan (favorite in the entire franchise). But there's definitely fair criticism of Bloodborne, like farming healing, inconsistent boss quality, having to travel back to Hunter's Dream, just to mention a few.
So a few things. About the color, I get what you mean that there isn't enough variety, but I don't think that's a negative; it actually adds to the atmosphere and overall feel of the game. I think BB is the most nihilistic in the franchise, and I think the world reflects that-a bloody and colorless mess. But I do think that the architecture makes up for this. I think areas like Yharnam, Old Yharnam, Mensis, Yahar'gul all look the same, but I think it's okay because they still look so different.
The gun parrying, I don't quite get, maybe because I never really had this problem. I just never gun-spammed. I don't remember the staggering being that overpowered. I probably tried to spam it on a troll and then got hit by it and almost died, so it forced me to learn to time. Also, 20 is a lot, but when you need to throughout an entire area, I don't think you're gonna get away with spamming.
For hunter fights, I do see it being more overpowered (like Gherman), but even in your fight, you were like half health and already used all your bullets. So I do think there's some timing skill required to "trivialize" the hunter enemies, and it being overpowered isn't that bad because it's skill involved instead of just spamming it. You compared it to a jump attack and said, "It's there, why not use it?" I think you could also compare it to summons in Elden Ring. It's there, yes, but if you use it and then say "this game is so easy," it's obvious why. If you just spam it and have no interest in properly engaging with it, I think there's some player responsibility there. But granted if you focus on parrying, it does make Gherman and Maria super easy. It's there, yes, but how you use it is also important. It's super satisfying to parry an enemy though, so I see why everyone uses it, and I like using it too, even if it's overpowered when you do it right. I just don't think you can purely spam your way to victory, and there's definitely skill involved in the parry. (BB was my first Souls game, so I'm talking from memory. I remember the parry not being that good and that I always naturally tried to time parries and not spam. Maybe if I played it after the other games, I would also experience it the way you did.)
I also rarely cheesed so even bosses like Vicar Amelia/BSB on my first playthrough were pretty enjoyable.
The staggering stuff with beast bosses is full agreement. I love the mechanic of staggering them, but it's a bit too overpowered.
For me, the DLC bosses and good main game bosses + the atmosphere and aggressive/brutal combat system + unique weapons, and of course, the extremely vague and nihilistic themes mixed with the Lovecraftian and beastly enemies, the look of the world and the difficulty (I had a very difficult time playing) - I love how it plays, I love how it looks, I love what everything means, I love the lore and characters. All of this makes this an amazing game (for me). I will never forget that first playthrough; it made me fall in love with all the other games too. These games are the only ones I've played since I played BB a few years ago (few exceptions in games I've played, of course).
I think your criticism is valid and understandable ❤️ we need 60fps tho.
I'm done yapping.
Wow, sorry I didn’t see this comment earlier. This is such an articulated response in which does make you second guess things. I can totally understand your point with the summons. And you’re completely right, because I could say, yeah but summons make you lose all aggro so you’re not interacting with the boss. Then you’d say, isn’t that the same as not interacting with parrying? Yeah you’re completely right on that front. So thank you for that, I’d have to think about that one hard.
Yeah the atmosphere is gorgeous and like you state, the colours reflect that nihilistic environment which the game takes place in. My problem is the architecture as a whole. I understand that when you look at the details of Yhar al Gol compared to Central Yahrnam, you can tell the difference. But from a casual play through I think you can say they do blend.
In terms of the amount of bullets, yes that’s true if you’re going through everything before reaching the boss and presuming you beat it on your first go. But if not, you’ll run through everything to reach the boss again at full bullets. But again, I get what you’re saying. Maybe I do parry too much. But I think because it is so integral to the experience as a weapon, it feels like it’s supposed to be used. But then that opens the floodgates as what constitutes as too much. But yeah, I get completely what you’re saying here and thank you btw for the great comment. And also for making such a great argument to the contrary. Also yeah we need 60 fps! Take care mate!
@@Smabbottthanks for the response, I see what you mean about the architecture, I can definitely see them blending too much to a person's liking. Take care ❤️
This is the best game FromSoft has ever made
Fair play.
I would sell my soul to experience bloodborne once again
Eh my soul is a cheap price for bloodborne@user-ky8nd2rz4f
Saying bloodborne doesn’t have a “Wow” moment is really just an incorrect statement, going into Cainhurst castle for the first time, seeing the amygdala hanging on the cathedral, the mini jump scare at the orphanage, pretty much the entire DLC are all “wow” moments, I do agree on that a lot of the level design does lean on the same aesthetic a bit too much tho
Yeah I’ll completely agree with you on that. The point itself is so subjective that it’s not fair to make. So yes you’re right.
The dlc is absolutely great and amazing. But the main game about meh. The only thing wrong about this makn game is thats its short af. There were so many mysteries . like byrgenweth idk the spelling. I was DESPERATE to get to byrgenweryh and after getting there i was like wtf i have to do only this. Come on. Also i really like the upper cathedral. Honestly speaking another game like bloodborne would be nice to fix its flaws. I would say bloodborne has the most replaybility. The lore is fantastic. But yeah the parry machanic is also meh but the thing is i was not able to parry most bosses expect father g and sometimes Gerhman extremely hard. This game is great honestly but a bit rushed I would say
Calling the healing system “criminal” is insane. I’ll listen anyways though
@@loveoflyrics7589 appreciate it. Thank you. It’s mainly just impactful language. Even writing that line it felt rather too much. But it flowed. But yeah fair play, enjoy.
Did you really need to sit down to write and edit an hour long video that can be summed up in the phrase "it just didn't do it for me, personally?"
Yeah.
And you choose watched it and comment 🫵🤣mad fanboi
So you're only allowed to write and edit an hour long video if it's something agreeable? Personally if you ask me. I'd say things in your life where you go "I didn't like it" or "I'm not sure if I like it" are quetions that are worth more mediating over as they will help you understand yourself more specially if it's something you're conflicted about. If you like something, that's good, but you can end up as someone who just devours what tickles their fancy without questioning anything. But by questioning and really thinking deeply why you don't like something? Well that tells you a lot about yourself.
Im the kinda guy that pre-ordered Demon's souls on ps3 lol. I dont think there is a more consistent studio than from in the last 15 years yet they did leave me disappointed one time. Yes it was Bloodborne. By no means do i hate the game but id be lying if i said i wasnt let down every time ive played it. Tes it has amazing atmosphere but it lacks for me personally in so many departments. Im actually replaying all the souls games in release order after completing shadow of the erdtree with a couple friends. Of course they love BB. Everyone seems to put it on a pedestal. I literally was just telling them it feels like junk food so it was great to hear you compare it to McDonald's lol. Im glad im not alone in the disappointment of what I'd still consider a solid game.
@@Garoth4582 yeah me too. But everyone just seems to think you hate it if you say literally anything negative. Thanks!
When mommys drink during pregnancy we get videos like this
😂😂😂
Nah that Elden ring vid but this was good 😍😍😍
Very surprised your channel doesn’t have more subs, very well made video and pretty much agree with everything criticism wise. I’m pretty surprised that the chalice dungeons weren’t really brought up. I have played through the game about 5 times now with the platinum and it’s probably the most tedious aspect of the game that for some reason feels sweeped under the rug whenever the overall quality of the game is discussed. It is extremely tedious and boring going through most of these dungeons with usually really mid bosses. And the arugument that it’s optional content is dumb, everything is optional, playing the game is optional. I love this game, and it’s probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite fromsoft title, but nothing annoys me more when people act like is the most perfect game to ever be created. Bb fans are absolutely atrocious when it comes to accepting genuine criticism about this game. Regardless this was well articulated critique. You deserve more subs fr.
Honestly it’s because I didn’t explore them enough to talk about the chalice dungeons. I didn’t see the need to explore procedural dungeons as From is known for fantastic level designs. So why would you want to play a non-curated area in a game built around that fact? That’s an interesting perspective to have with the optional content part. Yeah that’s cool! And yes I understand what you say about the fanbase. I come from it from two different angles, if you have something constructive to say that I missed I will take the time to hear what people say. If you’re just out to insult. Then what’s the point in taking the time to talk? But that’s like any fanbase. And thank you for your kind words! It really means a lot, I’m glad you enjoyed. I have a Lies of P review out now if you’re interested. But if not, I thank you for taking the time to watch my vid. Have a great day!
Actually I already watched it and I agree game is incredibly well crafted. Lies of p was near perfection for me. Definitely will be sticking around for more though
Thanks! Yeah it was incredible! I can’t wait for the dlc!
Pfff...
Stick with ESG games then ...
If you want to see a good ESG game go over and check out the video in the bottom of the description, it is really based and I think you would prefer it over this video, have a lovely day.
@@ArchitectAlfie no such thing as good ESG game ... lol
Awful take but to each their own, this game is still my personal favorite of all their games.
I'm glad. It'd be boring if everyone agreed on everything. Glad you love the game.
awful take to think bb is your best souls game, bb fanboys should really start to critique their game, cuz its a mediocre souls game at best imo, this game isnt perfect and has alot of flaws that the fanbase doesnt like admitting too, lets get over that and move on.
@@flamingmanureits bad cause its his favourite?
I mean I’ve seen very little negative based reviews on bloodborne..so I’ll take it. Good stuff. WE WILL NEVER AGREE lol
Yep I’ll take that, thanks mate😂
5:04 "The level design doesn't do much to differentiate itself from other levels of the game" bruh you didn't play the game... late game gets trippy
I started with ds2, played some ds3, then did elden ring and sekiro. Got ps5 recently and tried bloodborne, i had huge expectations due to all the hype and i was like, is that all, am i missing something, probably my least favorite from game, sekiro being my most
I really hated sekiro at the start, so i'll probably give bloodborne a few more chances
The only flaws of bloodborne are not being able to respec,crappy gemstones upgrading system and being stuck in 30fps although that's more of a preference. All games have flaws, but compared to the crap released these days, BB stands out like masterpiece for many people
I mean people call Dark Souls 1 bad these days. And even worse some people are convinced Dark Souls 2 is the best in the series lol. Opinions.
Finally, someone to balance out the BS. Bloodborne is a good game with a great atmosphere but the bosses are straight up disappointing. I'm glad someone is pushing back against this narrative that Bloodborne is some masterpiece that never put a foot wrong. It seems to have gained more traction after Elden Ring. I get it, for many it was their FromSoftware experience. It's fast paced, has a scary atmosphere and has a good soundtrack but for fuck's sake, it's not perfect..
No it’s not. But trust me. You don’t want the heat that comes with that opinion. It’s not a pleasant experience to put it lightly😂
@@Smabbott These stuck up fanboys will hunt you for disrespecting their beloved masterpiece.
@@Lucivius27 let them come😎 nah I joke. It’s fine to get passionately defensive about something. As long as you can be constructive on how you make your point. I hate responses like. No you’re wrong… okay. How?
@@Smabbott I don't mind fanboys being defensive what I don't like is them attacking other Souls games that is what I hate about them.
@@Lucivius27 yeah same. Unfortunately it comes with the territory.
for the blood starved beat fight I suggest when your poisoned don’t panic try to slowly move away heal than use a antidote and gif me I was able to beat blood starved beat with out cock tails or parrying
As a person who has never played bloodborne it’s shocking to see this kind of criticism when everywhere else I’ve only heard praises for this game to the point of being the best fromsoft game. At the end of the day I still won’t know for sure, but seeing these clips it does look quite underwhelming at least in terms of gameplay (visuals are damn good tho)
Fromsoft made it so it's a good game. But most people played it after ds2 and have nostalgic opinions on it. Combat is super mid. Lore and atmosphere are the best they have ever been
Yeah I agree. But the combat is good. It’s just what you’re fighting isn’t. Also the rally mechanic hurts the game imo where you’ll find yourself losing rhythm with the boss in order to deal damage if there is an open or there isn’t. But yeah the bosses don’t suit the gun combat so they can all be broken. But yeah the lore and atmosphere is unmatched.
You have to make your own mind up bud. But I can promise you, you’ll see more of a bias towards this game than any other of From’s because of its aesthetic alone. Many people who love Bloodborne haven’t actually played Bloodborne. But then there are those who have and that’s fair enough if they think it’s their favourite. But every From game has flaws. But BB gets overlooked for some reason.
This has to be bait
Nah.
Only critique i have is that the vanilla boss catalog is weak. The cleric beast and father gascoigne are really good tutorial bosses, but after that its just meh after meh until gherman
Couldn’t agree more
Indeed. The DLC is a bit better but not much. And if you do the Chalice Dungeons first you become too powerful for the DLC. I can't think of a single boss in Bloodborne that I thought was bloody awesome. I guess Maria comes close.
Honestly, I did not exactly love BloodBorne,but in the games defense I just recently tried it after Lies of P and Elden Ring and for me the game just did not click with me. It being 30fps for me hurt my experience, and I did not like the gun parry system at all. Thats not to say the game is not good, just after Lies of P and Elden Ring having such a fluid and smooth battle system, I just could not even enjoy playing BB,for me Lies of P and Elden Ring are the best 2 soul's games/likes I ever played.
Yeah me too. Bloodborne is still a good game. But I don’t think it deserves the title it’s garnered.
Blood starved beast is so easy without cheesing or "healing" just side step around his slow ass predictable moveset, now don't get me wrong I definitely agree that this isn't a very good souls game but tha point made no sense
I disliked the video, but also subscribed because your passion is clear and the quality of your production is high. some thoughts, if you're interested:
It's true that the gun is there to be used, but I strongly disagree with the notion that spamming L2 is the optimal use of that tool. Your resources are limited in order to put the onus on you to use those resources responsibly. I think this important, and it applies to the game as a whole: the more responsibility you take on, the more you get out of the game. It's one thing to just want to get the fight over with; it's another thing to strive for a deeper understanding of the game, to strive to meaningfully improve and enjoy the feeling of moving lucidly in this space. If clearing the game is as far as one wants to go, then tactics like fishing for parries is viable enough for casual players to see the end. If Bloodborne isn't a space that you feel inspired to make yourself at home in then that's totally fair, but the idea that Bloodborne is objectively bad because there exist more or less exploitative strategies is silly. You get out what you put in. It seems like you only had so much of yourself to put into the game and I completely respect that what you personally got out of the game based on your investment was disappointing. This makes the game *subjectively disappointing for you*. To make objective claims about the game requires a rather rigorous logical perspective & method that accounts for whatever falls outside of your perspective as well. one small example: the Blood-Starved Beast's grab attack is certainly fast because there are very few start-up frames -- indeed, the attack lands less than a second after it's initiated. But dude, you have far more than a second to prepare for and react to the attack because the BSB telegraphs the move by standing completely still before launching it, and you didn't show that portion of BSB's behavior in your video. That's a special action that precedes the grab attack and the grab attack only, which leaves me wondering whether you a) didn’t notice or understand this and so didn’t provide this information in your hour-long video, or b) knew about it but chose to omit it to make your complaint come across as more reasonable. I'm assuming you made that point in good faith, but the conclusion is far reaching: your arguments suffer when you fail to try to see beyond your own subjective experience. This happened many times over the hour, and it's a shame that i can't respond to each of them in a single comment. The idea that the gun or the rally mechanic objectively hurt the game are far more prevalent examples that I don't have enough space to properly address here.
It's good that people know that the game is not made of magic, and you did a service by providing your perspective. I appreciate the effort, but it would be a shame if anyone confused your gripes as proof of objective deficiencies of the game.
Looking forward to your next video!
Watching again and wanted to take the time to point out that at 26:39 you claim that "the camera is not designed for this type of boss battle" (re: Shadows). This is the type of flawed reasoning I'm talking about above. The "camera" isn't the problem -- the fact that threats can exist outside of your field of view and attack you from out of frame when you're locked onto a specific enemy isn't a *bad* thing, it's just a true fact. It's not good or bad, it just IS. In order to play the game at a higher level, you'd have to ask yourself whether or not you should be locked on to an enemy in that specific situation. You don't need to be locked on to land a gunshot parry -- your character only needs to be properly aligned with the enemy, and decoupling your character's alignment in the game space and your camera view is a skill that is worth cultivating in ANY Fromsoft game, and it's particularly relevant in a situation involving more than one enemy that poses a threat. By locking on, you're making a decision that affects how your character behaves and the information that you have access to. Just because you can get hit by something you can't see after you made a decision that precluded you seeing the threat doesn't mean that the camera "isn't designed for these types of battles", it means that in order to be effective in those battles one needs to make thoughtful and responsible decisions about how they use the tools they have available to them and adapt new skills to succeed in that situation. You can like it or not like it, but the idea that the camera isn't designed to facilitate a gank fight is just a logically senseless claim.
I want to be clear -- I'm not trying to be a dick, and FYI caps were for emphasis, not to show any kind of aggression lol. It's just that these details are not obvious but also happen to matter a lot if you want to engage with the topic you're thinking about on a more meaningful level.
You aren't required to do any of that thinking if you aren't invested in the game, but if you don't do that work then you miss the opportunity to get better, and ultimately that's the whole point of these games I think.. it feels good to get better at them, and it's disappointing when you don't feel that satisfaction, yeah?
One more before work: Rom isn't my favorite fight by any stretch, but it's hardly "style over substance". It's a fight that primarily tests your *movement* skills. Rom isn't by herself in a little room because she's not a challenging opponent in single combat; she's surrounded by spiders to force you to move safely throughout the arena while thinning the horde of smaller hazards and avoiding her spells. You don't have to love the fight, but if you appreciate the fact that it's basically a puzzle testing your movement you can see that there's plenty of substance to process while you're in the thick of it. If you've acquired some knowledge and prepared your character, you can avoid it, but that's *your choice*, and that encounter or the big-picture boss design philosophy in BB isn't necessarily harmed by the fact that you have that choice available to you once you've gained that knowledge. In fact, the AoE attack can be survived if you defend yourself with the wooden shield. That's knowledge in just the same way as the one-cycle strategy is knowledge, but these two facts aren't good or bad without context, and i was not at all convinced that the context you provided proved on its own that the fight is just bad. If someone gets that knowledge from a wiki on their first playthrough then they probably just want to see the credits and move on to something else, but a repeat player using their knowledge to dispatch the boss quickly doesn't mean the boss isn't worth being in the game.
Thanks man. Yeah I appreciate the feedback. And in terms of the BSB yeah the option where I just didn’t think of it. It wasn’t meant to be construed as if the footage was misleading, so I apologise for that. Nah I didn’t show it because genuinely I meant what I said when the moves blend for me through a wailing beast animation and most of his attacks looked the same. So I’ll take the responsibility for that. Thank you for pointing that out.
Okay between you and me, the camera complaint was a spur of the moment comment. Even writing it felt rather too subjective. The whole video is subjective I don’t want to say my points are objective. How can I? The game’s beloved, it’s just a take. Yeah in terms of the lock on, it feels like the epitome of playing ds2 with the aspect of knowing when to lock on and when not to lock on. So yeah that’s a fair observation. However I wouldn’t say it’s a senseless claim as so many people state about the fact that these games are not designed in order to facilitate one on many enemies and they never real have been. Each game plays better when it’s one on one. I’m not disagreeing with you, but the camera isn’t a new or radical take.
But again thank you for your perspective . I think in terms of the parry, because of what you put earlier sorry I didn’t respond in the previous comment, I understand what you’re saying about mastering and connecting with the game and getting better. Yeah completely agree, I’ve done an HP1 + AP1 at the same time in Sekiro. However, my main problem with the party is how easy it is to circumvent bosses. To my knowledge, there is no other game that comes close to a core mechanic breaking the fights. The closest being jump attacks in Elden Ring. But even that takes a few attempts. I understand what you’re saying and I agree from a certain perspective, but the game has a mechanic which is abusive. I know it’s your choice to use it. But again like I say in the vid, it’s there and it is way too easy to execute. This is the ultimate difference between our two play styles and I get where you’re coming from. But the game has the mechanic in place. It’s like people who complained at overpowered builds in Elden Ring. The response is to just not use it. But again it’s there, so you can’t ignore it.
I also want to state I’m not trying to get at you either. Just enjoy this back and forth. I prefer when you don’t agree with someone, it allows you to learn for next time and conflicting takes make for good conversations. So thank you.
In terms of Rom. I don’t real know what to say, the spiders are there of course. But does that make something like Dukes Dear Freya a good puzzle fight, because there’s not that many attacks and the spiders are everywhere for a puzzle to either evict or leave and deal with the main boss. But no I will not defend Rom. The only thing I will say and thank you for not saying so is that the comment of the run back was a joke, but I had one comment which viewed it as a malicious take on the run backs. Idc really it was just a joke. But I get what you’re saying, but again like you said it’s not a good fight. Yes it’s a puzzle fight. But it doesn’t excuse the annoyance of the fight. Like how the Bed of Chaos is an annoying puzzle fight. Btw I feel both fights aren’t that challenging. I never struggled too much on BOC and Rom on my first run of the game did take me an hour, so maybe that is hard.
But it just feels really outdated which has more in common with the likes of BOC and DDF so idk I honestly can’t think of a positive about the fight bar the arena. I get what you’re saying with a puzzle boss. But I still don’t think it’s a good fight. In terms of returning and beating it quickly and more efficiently shows your progress rather than a way to interact with the Boss. It’s not like returning something like Guardian Ape and beating it more efficiently by learning patterns and deflecting everything, rather than backing away and chipping damage on a first run. But the spiders are a nuisance. Sorry I get what you’re saying. But I can’t say what I said about Rom is wrong, yes the context can change in different circumstances, but in the moment that is what goes through your head. As well as my god, this arena is amazing! Also that’s interesting about the shield I did not know that. But that isn’t common knowledge in which you could figure out yourself due to the item descend the shield. Once again, not getting at you for anything. Thanks for the comment.
Oh my🫣 is this just for clicks?
The only thing disappointing about Bloodborne is the lack of a remastered PC port.
nope
After being really excited for Bloodborne for many years and recently finishing it on the PS4, I don't care about it any more. It's not a masterpiece, it's Dark Souls 2 with some of Dark Souls 3 sprinkled in.
“pC pORt pC pOrT” a bloodborne pc port is never happening, if sony can’t even touch it for the ps5.
@@Dunestorm333 You also didn't get the story. Why don't you mention that aswell?
@@fourkings_ People can have different opinions, I didn’t like it.
Fromsoft community trying to understand their favourite videogame has flaws too (challenge impossible).
😂fr
Seriously, the game is old. Of course it has flaws. Sure some criticism doesn't make sense but there's actual genuine point in this video. I love Bloodborne but it can be better
Saying something has flaws and calling it disappointing are two diffrent things
@@Cephlapodninja It is kinda dissapointing if you buy into all the hype around the game. Without the dlc it easily has the worst base game of any recent fromsoft game. Also not as replayable as other from games.
@@justaguy1071 I don't buy into hype around the game I am the hype around the game if you don't like the game it's completely fair to say that but to imply everybody else must also dislike it due some sort of objective criticism is stupid
ain't no way
this game has the dumbest and most dedicated fan base, you can not say a single bad thing about the game unless you want them to just immediately tell you you're wrong and your opinion is invalid because their game is perfect
@@_nenju Trust me. You have no idea😂
I don't think the game has any major flaws aside from the garbage hunter npc fights in the base game and the ocassional bad fights.
It's solid in nearly every other aspect.
@@Sephirothkingdom782 "t's solid in nearly every other aspect." well it is the jack of all trades of souls games. the game also has quite a few major flaws, some of which are in this video.
@@Sephirothkingdom782It is definitely not solid in every other aspect.
@@Sephirothkingdom782farming heals in combination with lame bossfights amazing😂
Really great video. I personally love this game, it was my first From Software game too. However I agree with a lot of your criticisms. This makes me want a Bloodborne 2 more than ever. It would be a great opporitunity to take what this game did great and improve upon the flaws.
By the way, you forgot (or decided to leave out due to length) Cainhurt Castle. That area definitely changes things up a bit visually and enemy wise. What are your thoughts on that area and Logarius as a boss? And what about the dungeons? What do you think about it as a feature unique to this game and some unique bosses that only show up in the dungeons?
Well thank you very much. Yeah I would love a Bloodborne 2. But I don't think I'd want it through From themselves. Looking at how great DS3 is, it's still mainly just 1 but fan service. Nothing wrong with that. But I feel the success of Bloodborne could affect the outcome. In terms of Cainhurst as an area. I think it's incredible. Yeah sorry, I just couldn't find a suitable moment to sideline over to the area. The castle is such a departure to the rest of the game that it creates that same feeling for me of the research hall and the fishing hamlet. The gothic otherworldly setting is perfect as well as the shortcuts being more interesting than opening a gate or an elevator. In terms of Logarius, a great fight visually. A truly brilliant score which again stands out on its own as well as the aggression in phase 2 being brilliant. I'm not a fan of the sorcery spam of phase 1 as it's a bit more annoying and high damage while trying to chase him down. I think phase 2 would be brilliant. But unfortunately, the parry spam again folds it into the camp of another hunter fight. Again, I love the arena.
And in terms of the chalice dungeons. I couldn't tell you what I think about them as I wasn't big on the areas or bosses of the base game which were hand crafted. So procedurally generated areas weren't really my bag. The only dungeon I've been in was CUMMMFPK because I hated farming for vials😂😂 but thanks so much for the comment!
What you need, are more eyes.
The loopback to Firelink Shrine is amazing because Firelink IS the hub of the game.
Central Yharnum is just a place. If it looped back to the Hunter’s Dream instead of having you teleport there from ANY lantern that would be a different story.
so true, thats why the loop back to central yharnam feels like a failed attempt at recreating this feeling
I got vials completely “legitimately” by farming the little red guy in Ludwig’s boss run every time I died, (56 goddamn times)
Hmm, while Bloodborne definitely has its issues, I don't think I agree with many of your points, especially the one that this game is somehow disappointing. The way Bloodborne influences the player to be aggressive rather than passive as at that point every Souls-game was played with Shield up unless people were experienced players, is amazing (and you have to remember, at that time the Souls community was a lot smaller than what it is now. Heck, up until Elden Ring, many refused to play Souls games simply due to their difficulty even though they're not really that difficult if you just put a little time in it)
Everything about its gameplay influences the player to be aggressive, to be greedier than they think they can be. At my best I parried every attack from Father Gascoigne to the point he couldn't even transform to his second phase.
I also don't think the boss-designs are inconsistent as every one of them is explained in the lore. Even the chalice dungeons (considering how mediocre they are) have lore behind them. I think the Witches of Hemwick are the weakest boss-design by far as they're just a gimmick boss and FromSoftware has never been really good at gimmick fights, with the best probably being Yhorm the Giant in DSIII due to its spectacle.
And lastly, the areas? "repetitive level layout"? In terms of how devoid of color everything is, I could agree though I don't think that's a slight against the game, but in terms of actual layouts they couldn't be further apart. Yes, they all have a shortcut or 2, but that's just part of the FromSoftware design and it isn't repetitive in terms of how these shortcuts are designed.
Bloodborne is an excellent game and it seems like it just didn't mesh with you. Which is fine, but I feel like this has colored your opinion on things to the point of being unfair (I mean, read your video description alone, it's clear you have something against the game being one of the most beloved Souls-games)
Being critical is fine. I've Platinum'd this game and did a BL4 run until Ebrietas who I just couldn't beat personally as I'm just not that good, and I know this game has its faults, the Blood Vial system being main among them. But I do think being critical requires objectivity. And I don't think this video was made with the most objective mindset. Which is a shame because while your love for Lies of P really shined through in your video about that game, the points you made were still objective for the most part.
As an example: I think Elden Ring isn't fun to play. To me the open world was bland, boring, and frustrating due to the uncertainty of when you'd be ready for the boss of the area, whereas with previous FromSoftware titles you always knew "If I finish this entire area, I should theoretically be powerful enough to beat the boss". Does that mean Elden Ring is a bad game? Or a disappointment? No. Clearly not. It's loved by many, made FromSoftware into an even more mainstream developer than before. Armored Core VI would've not sold nearly as much as they did if Elden Ring had flopped, the hype for anything FromSoftware just is that high at this point.
I just personally didn't have a good time with Elden Ring as the things that were frustrating to me, impeded my enjoyment. Doesn't mean that if I look at it critically and objectively, that the open world is bad. I just didn't mesh with it.
Just something to think about if you want to keep making critical analysis videos. (which are very well produced btw)
Thank you for this very fair comment. You are right on many things here. I want you to know, I completely forgot what the description stated until you pointed it out to me. And I agree when reading it, it was spiteful and petty. That’s not how I like to be with these videos. So I want you to know that has changed because of your input so thank you.
I too love the aggressive nature of the game. As you probably know as it’s mentioned in the video. It’s a very different state to be in for these games and it’s a welcomed edition. I feel I could have been more clear with my reasoning for bosses being inconsistent. I believe the lore for every single boss fits the world it crafted and for that instance they are all amazing. It’s mostly to do with the animations and the mechanics which the player is given to deal with them. That’s why I wanted to state about the animations for Lies of P so vigorously, because I realised it needed to be in this video. No the main point is that the beast animations are annoying as they blend. As I fully believe that limiting yourself to a certain theme, you have to play by those rules. The beasts are rabid animals and as such can only stretch so far with their unique move sets through animation. Whereas something like Lies of P allowed the team to use the setting to create different puppet bosses with unique animations.
In terms of the repetitive level layout is again a bad translation to what I was trying to capture. Naturally the levels are all vast and have winding paths in which show the player new ways to progress it is mainly the shortcuts which is repetitive. And looking back, I wish I changed the aspect of repetitive level layout with repetitive shortcut layout. This is completely wrong on my part. So I apologise for that. The main gripe comes from the use of elevators being used so commonly that you would reach the next area, such as forbidden woods. See a locked door and think, oh here we go again. The colour pallet is completely subjective which is hard to quantify in a critique. But I feel even in critique it is impossible to be objective. I understand which I state in the Lies of P video that Yharnam was crafted that way because society was never really born in this city. Always being a town of survival. So it makes sense that everything is cobbled together. But again, I still don’t like it. It fits the theme and the world perfectly. But to go through each area and have the same feeling through each location got stale. But I completely see where you’re coming from.
Well done for BL4 that is insane! I’ve never attempted it. But I’ve heard it’s one of the hardest runs of the series. I never wanted the video to come off as I don’t like the game. That was never the point. But I feel there are some areas in which haven’t been explored when it comes to criticism of this game. I can’t escape the feeling of how the bosses feel to fight. Yes this could be subjective. But I feel there is enough evidence in the animations and the players mechanics being able to break nearly every hunter fight is a shame. Yes you don’t have to play like this. But you can. And that is a problem. This isn’t a build in which you can make to break the game. The gun is a staple of the mechanics. But again, I don’t want the idea that this game isn’t good to be what people remember about this video. I’m aware it isn’t reviewed as well. I knew it wouldn’t be. But I couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off with certain factors of Bloodborne.
I understand what you say about Elden Ring and you are right. But are you? Because the realisation of the overtuned bosses in that game was widely popularised after Joseph Anderson posted his video. It is now common that Elden Ring has this problem with some combos from bosses being too long to deal with as you essentially wait to play the game again. This is true. It isn’t an opinion. When Malekith goes up in the air, there is nothing you can do but wait. You can like this or you cannot. But it is there.
It’s the same with the animations in Bloodborne as well as the rally system. You can like it or you can’t. But it is true that it does break you out of the flow of the fight as you fight trying to rally health back rather than engaging with the animations. Especially in something like The One Reborn. This becomes harder to break away from when all beast fights essentially play the same with the move sets. Although they are tweaked slightly, there isn’t enough to differentiate between them. Leading the beasts to force the player to play the same way for all of them.
But thank you for your comment. I do really appreciate it. And having the chance to tell you the shortcomings of my video has been an amazing experience for me. Like I said, you have altered my video. So thank you for that. And thank you for your kind words. I hope you have an amazing day.
except alot of that "aggressiveness" youre talking about is a negative as far as im concerned, the games after it handled that much better imo. bb lost the strategy part of fromsoft combat, its easily the most spammable and mindless fromsoft game when it comes to combat.
"it's clear you have something against the game being one of the most beloved Souls-games" yeah what of it exactly? he disagrees with it being one of the most beloved souls games, he doesnt like it as much as the others, hence this analysis, and frankly i can see why, the bb fanbase is easily the most childish, most abnoxious and most delusional fanbase between all the fromsoft games and that says something considering fromsofts fanbase are abit...special to say the least.
i also had a bl4 run and lasted up until kos and gherman, didnt actually finish it though and i agree with pretty much every point he has, its easily the most mindless and most spammable game in the series, hes being about as objective as you are, any person that claims to be 100% objective is narcissistic and delusional as thats impossible, you can have some objectivity, but overall opinions are opinions.
"I think Elden Ring isn't fun to play. To me the open world was bland, boring, and frustrating due to the uncertainty of when you'd be ready for the boss of the area, whereas with previous FromSoftware titles you always knew "If I finish this entire area, I should theoretically be powerful enough to beat the boss"
thats a shame, personally i think theres more talent, art, and effort put into limgrave alone than the entirety of bloodborne tbh, dont know how anyone can find the most crafted open world in gaming history bland, but to each his own, small parts of the open world like the underground dropped my jaw on the floor more than 30 hours of my first playthrough of bb or sekiro XD
"whereas with previous FromSoftware titles you always knew "If I finish this entire area, I should theoretically be powerful enough to beat the boss" i knew you souls vets needed a more guided experience than you would liked to admit. the same applies to ER, once you explore about 70% of an open world area, and your stat distribution isnt shite (most idiot souls vets went into mountaintops with 35 or 40 vigor cuz they thought the older level caps applied), then youre good to go for any boss of that area, this "uncertainty" of yours is purely self relegated. im glad fromsoft finally went open world. hopefully their next games stick to this format and improve it, rather than stick to a bunch of impressively interconnected rooms and corridors and hallways like the older games are, even the older games open spaces still feel like interiors.
@@flamingmanure imagine saying this when Dark Souls is literally a rolling spam simulator lmao 🤣
I probably have the most complaints and could suggest the most fixes for this game out of the rest of the series, but i really think it is my favorite of all of them, the combat and levels are just so good
Until Elden Ring I was the same, something about the game good and bad just encapsulates me into the world
That's great Boss! Honestly if you can pick apart something you love and find the flaws it makes the connection so much stronger, as you can maybe find something you maybe didn't notice before which maybe improves the game for yourself. I have those myself. Mainly Sekiro.
@@PapaLugeElden Ring just proved that not just Bloodborne but their linear games in general is definitely FromSoftware’s strongest suit.
@@questionablezoomer764it was their first attempt at an open world, of course it wouldn’t do great when compared to their linear style
But if they do another open world, they’ll likely learn from the mistakes that Elden Ring made, and make an even greater game
As Master Shifu once said: “If you only do what you’re good at, you’ll never be more than what you are”
Loved the loud music everytime you said elden ring 😂 made laugh everytime,btw great vid
Thank you very much😂 have a good day!
I think alot of bloodborne fans are blinded by their nostalgia and are unable to handle whats an otherwise very fair critique. Bloodborne is great but it isnt perfect and it has its fair share of flaws.
Yeah that’s my sentiment too. But idk, as you don’t pick your narrative. Oh well😂
Early on in the video he basically stated “The game’s theme doesn’t allow the areas to stand out”, and I do agree with this to some extent, but I also think that it has positive effects on the game overall, because when you are presented with an unusual area, like the Fishing village in the dlc, it has more of an effect on you than if the Fishing Village was an area in a Dark Souls game
Yes completely agree with this take! That’s what makes that area absolutely unique compared to the rest of the game. And I have to admit I didn’t think of it that way, having the rest of the areas be muted does indeed make the others stand out. However, I kind of wish they just had more personality. Something like Lies of P gets away with this with unique landmarks such as shops and stuff. Statues could have been used but they were underutilised. Thanks for the comment. Something interesting to think about.
@@Smabbott you cant be serious😂😂
Lies of P does it well but Bloodborne doesnt? Lmao
@@UnknownUser-in1hd yeah. Not saying Bloodborne is bad, but it does stick to a very similar visual style throughout. Gothic architecture aside, the areas look the same when set in the city. There isn’t that much distinction between districts. Makes it all appear as grey.
What I'm hearing is "the lack of variety is good because when they finally do add some variety it feels good".
That's basically like saying "starvation is good because it feels that much more satisfying when you finally eat".
@@PhilMihalyI don't think you get it.
Great video I think bloodborne is ruined by overhype and DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER people really say bloodborne has the best boss line up and best areas but half of the bosses have the same move set more than half of the areas have the same look all the enemies act the same AMAZING COMBAT but nothing fun to fight the cpu pvp fights are harder than half of the bosses amazing combat but weapons are few and out the few only about 4 of them is good the base game is just bad Ik it was gonna be mediocre when a UA-camr titled his video BLOODBORNE THE BEST SOUSL GAME and the first thing he says is how the lore is better than the boss fights… the dlc really saved this game but never call this game better than ds1,DS3,er,sekiro over a perfect dlc if you have to buy something to make the game great doesn’t make it perfect!
I never thought of it like that with the DLC. But you’re right. And yeah, it’s the animations of each boss which makes them samey. The time between attacks never deviates leading to some very formulaic fights. The more I think about Bloodborne the more I find I don’t like it as much. But the fandom is something else. Be careful with that opinion. Because they’ll come for you. And it’s not nice😂
@@Smabbott facts bruh 😂
Havent finished watching yet, and while I was also disappointed in the game, Im not sure why so many negative reviews focus on the bosses. Yeah they suck. But theres so much more. The level design goes to shit after Old Yharnam. The third mandatory area, Forbidden woods has one of the most poorly designed paths, with the most useless elevator shortcut and an easily missable boss shortcut. It is also at this point, with a million snake enemies that are frustrating and unfun to fight, where the ganks of bloodborne really got on my nerves. It was ok In Yharnam and old Yharnam, bc/ its a city and shit. The crowds gave some immersion...But the rifle gank on the way to hemwick village...The summoners in yharalgul (also terrible level design with confusing teleports)...The rock throwers and endless enemies in Nightmare frontier, the winter lantern gank in Nightmare of Mensis...This game just WANTS me to run past it and not engage with anything. Also terrible lack of enemy variety. Yharalgul is the second to last area and youre fighting the same Yharnamites and Ogres from the very beginning. Chalice dungeons have some cool designs but I dont count those. The game is full of disappointments. Theyll throw you a bone like Cainhurst castle only to realize you can chew through it in 20 minutes because its one of the smallest locations in the game...DLC was great.
Dude I could not agree more. Apart from Chalice dungeons as I haven’t even touched one. Why would you want to play something by FromSoft, known for brilliant level design which is procedurally generated? But yeah, I hate the levels in Bloodborne. They’re boring and repetitive. Past Old Yharnam. You’re completely right.
Skill issue
@@ahmadkhairul337 😂😂
@@ahmadkhairul337I beat all bosses in under 6 attempts, Say skill issue again😂 the game is overrated
@@9polio and I'm a Nigerian prince lol 😂. Everybody can lie on the internet bro
elden ring has even more clear animations that tell which direction to dodge and which position is best, its just alot of enemies and bosses have alot of moves and the anti panic roll design of all of them make things harder, whether you see that as good or not is up to you, personally i see it as the next step in evolution in souls boss combat cuz frankly it would be boring if they just created another batch of bb/ds3 bosses.
and the only boss in elden ring with a bad camera is the fire giant, literally every other boss's camera is fine, so no my dude, they didnt forget about the fixes of their classic camera issues in elden ring.
man i feel like youre really blindly biased towards sekiro, cuz frankly, i disagree with the sekiro fanboy take that its "perfection", far from it, the game has alot of issues that the sekiro fanbase doesnt like admitting to, from many prosthetics being useless and mildly situational compared to the top 4 generally best ones (ahem ahem very much like elden souls), to its combat becoming stale and clear cut once mastered, to its incredibly low variety in practically very aspect in game design, to the lack of personality and creativity in bosses other than the obviously good ones(most are generic sword/spear user#2334, theres far more creativity in elden souls enemy and boss design, which i get because of the difference in themes), to the fact that when it comes down to it, the most optimal way to play sekiro is basically just deflecting and attacking with the occasional jump and nikiri (again, very much like souls, seems like fromsoft just arent that good at balancing any of their games), dont believe me? then just watch speed runners, hell you used that as an example against bb and im one of the ppl that think its nowhere near the best souls game, elden ring is my fav by a landslide. its weird how the elden souls fanbase learned to take and discuss critique of their favorite games but the offshoot seki-borne fanbase still hasnt learned that.
Elden Ring is overtuned to the point where it’s unfair. To this day Malenia’s waterfowl dance is still unavoidable. The only way to successfully dodge it every time is to break the AI of the boss in order to trick the positioning to make her move to your last location. The fact that this boss isn’t fixed is the clear example of what you just said fans feeling this is acceptable and git gud mentality means that nothing can have a fair conversation. Malenia has a bug which has been there since day one where you riposte her at the end of phase one and she won’t transition to phase two. You have to hit her another 4 times. Depending on the weapon. These are problems in which can seriously affect the outcome of the fight. Something Sekiro doesn’t have.
Sekiro’s combat is superior to Souls through the ability to understand and react to every attack in a way which teaches the player both reaction time and animation patterns. Saying all you have to do is parry and attack is an incredibly simplistic way of looking at the diverse combat system From made. You have to time the parry and react in three different ways, either unblockable, parry or attack. That’s a third addition to combat in which Souls games do not contain. The sense that you have to learn a fight in and out. Yes you’re right about the panic rolling being an option rather than a certainty so yes that’s true. But Lies of P has shown that you can have challenging bosses in your game with move sets which can all be learned with no gotcha moments. Something Elden Ring does frequently. I love Elden Ring, but it has problems.
Sekiro is set in a location which is based on Japanese architecture. So boss design will be many people with spears and swords. Doesn’t make any encounter lesser than because of it. The animations in Sekiro are the most fluent and reactant in From’s catalogue. Considering every single move in the game is fair and manageable and doesn’t require a certain build or item to counteract. The sense that once you master a fight is ‘stale’ is subjective and obviously they’ll be clear cut. The sense of being able to dominate the fight shows this progression and living up to the title of Shinobi. Rather than having this cognitive dissonance of where cutscenes show you being powerful and capable and then you can’t reach that potential. Sekiro’s journey for the player makes the player become a master with the game which is a good thing. And yeah you may not use all the prosthetics, but others do. Like how you may not use all the weapons in Elden Souls like you said. But fair play. I don’t think Sekiro is perfection, there are problems. But the combat is, compared to the rest of From’s catalogue.
When you know a game can be improved in many ways but it's still your absolue favourite by far, it means it is truly an amazing game.
Bro really posted a video saying bloodborne is mediocre 💀
Dw I'm already in the coffin.
@@Smabbott I appreciate the critique, keep up the good work!
To use the gun in order to parry will require knowing the parry windows. If you constantly shoot you might get some staggers but you will run out of bullets eventually. You can create some but that costs health and as a result, vials. In your fight with Gehrman you had like 4 bullets and the boss was close to half health. Anyway, amazing video as it is nice to see a different perspective.
Thanks man! Yeah I was trying too hard with Gehrman as that was my third time fighting him and I was like. Nah I'm gonna stretch this. A bit too much. But yeah, you're right.
I will say the parry mechanic is easier here than souls because in bloodborne you can do it from range and its not as risky
@@tasoskomporozos1847 exactly
Item quantity doesn't even matter when players learn about the CUMM dungeon where you can get infinite Blood Echeos to buy yourself unlimited items.
@@GreenWolf2k that's how I dealt with vials.
Bloodborne is easily the most overrated souls game of all time. However, it's still excellent, but it's certainly not better than anything that has come after it. Disappointing and mediocre by Fromsoft standards is still an excellent game.
I just finished playing through all souls games (except DS1). Bloodborne is the last one I beat. It took me sooooooo long to get passed the 30 FPS and the Blood vial issue. The 30 FPS isn't a deal breaker, but holy cow having to farm Blood vials is so infuriating. If I wasn't able to beat most bosses is 1-4 attempts, I would have absolutely put the game down. Why on earth would they use this terrible healing system instead of the amazing Estus flask system?
Because it wants to encourage you to be aggressive and uses the rally system?
@@ahmadkhairul337 it does a bad job at that.
@@David-tr4jl no it's not. If you keep going back to heal every time you get hit, you're gonna run out of vials. If you're move forward after being hit and hit the enemy back, you'll recover you health and save your vials. Simple logic. Stop playing this like Dark Souls, rolling around like a b***h and waiting for an opening.
Just run through Yharnam a few times and you should be able to fill out vials and bullets. There is one red guy before Ludwig's room that gives a bunch of vials as well.
Also the FPS is honestly not that bad. Maybe I need more eyes, but it is not too much of a deal.
@@EmmanuelGoldstein322 "Just run through Yharnam a few times" so I need to wait through multiple loading screens, spend minutes clearing every enemy repeatedly, all just to get heals that I should get upon death? That sucks.
The FPS isn't bad if you aren't used to 60 fps. However, I'd argue that for a hitbox action game like Bloodborne that requires fast button inputs, it objectively makes the experience much worse.
Arise Bloodborne stans, Arise and tear this man to pieces for saying the truth of our world
Get in cord😂
@@Smabbott Eating pasta
I must say, calling Bloodborne a disappointment is the ridiculously ballsy considering how immature Bloodborne stans are when you don't compliment they're beloved game, it's good to see someone finally speak the truth about this mediocre game. Instant sub
@@-burialblade-MY GOOOOOD SHUT UPPPPPPP!!!!!!
@@ThefantasticMrSUS mad you didn't beat the cleric beast? 😂
This is such a weird video of complaining for the sake of complaining. Did you find out by yourself how to cheese the bosses or did you go online to find strategies? When I played bloodborne I did not look up anything and I had the best time I've ever had gaming, I tried to use the parry, sometimes it worked mostly it didn't get the timing right. I agree that some bosses are not well done and some are pretty bad but to complain about the shadows of yarhnam that the cheesing tactic works out and that this is the way intended to fight them is kinda disingenuous.
Also, you said that you were trying to be fair and not hating it because it is loved but you almost your biggest praises were like "it is good" and when you said something is great you had to come with a backhanded comment on why it is being kept down, like the orphan of kos commentary or that Ludwig's music didn't match when it was perfect (although someone else had to convince you)
Like I said very weird video and it seems you went with the mindset to hate the game and you convinced yourself that it is not good. If I gad to guess you did so because people say it is the best souls (or some, like me, the best game ever) while you much prefer Dark Souls or Elden Ring.
While we're talking about cheesing, the jumping attack is not a cheese mechanic in Elden Ring but spirit ashes, once you get the mimic the bosses with it active become jokes.
Right. I will be completely honest with you. When I first played this game, I got through Central Yharnam, beat the cleric Beast, Beat Gascoigne, went through Old Yharnam and I was certain it was the coolest game I had ever played. That was 7 years ago. Then I reached the Blood Starved Beast and just gave up. During the following years I then played through Dark Souls then 2, 3 Sekiro and then played through the rest of Bloodborne. No I didn’t look up anything. I don’t agree with doing this, you ruin the experience if you do that. How can you trust your interpretation if it’s muddled from outward sources?
So no, I just knew how to parry, not that hard to achieve as it’s the most accessible in the series to stagger an enemy. Shadows is a bad gank fight. It’s up to you if you agree or not. But they don’t flow well when you fight them together. Making you result to parrying them.
I don’t hate Bloodborne. I like Bloodborne. But it has problems in which the other games have, somehow though this one gets a free pass. The animations for beasts are too similar to each other. The hunter fights are a slave to the parry system, the shortcuts become predictable and the world is aesthetically too grey. This is the one part which is subjective I will give you. I don’t see why changing your mind on something like music is a bad thing. It’s not just Bloodborne I believe has the music being too epic syndrome. Dark Souls 3 has every theme be grand whether the boss needs it to be or not. But no, I don’t care if I my friend pointed that out to me. It’s good to have other interpretations. And he was right. So why is that a problem?
Yes it does annoy me the amount of praise this game has. But that is people’s opinion, so who am I to tell them they’re wrong for thinking that way? Of course they’re not. The game has an aesthetic which makes more than the normal amount of fandom behind these games love it. So yes, it annoys me, because Bloodborne has so many bosses which lack any impact or uniqueness through their animations. Literally only being hailed as brilliant through their aesthetic. Which isn’t a problem. I know you’re not telling me it’s perfect. Because it’s not. But it is a good game. Yes I prefer Dark Souls and Elden Ring. But that doesn’t make Bloodborne bad. And yes, Jump attacks are a cheese in Elden Ring. That’s why they’re used for speed runs and such. But yeah, that’s my two sense of the matter. Sorry for being quite blunt. But that was the gage I got with this. Have a good day.
@@Smabbotthow can you say you're good at parrying but gave up at Blood Starved Beast lmao 🤣. That boss is so easy to parry.
@@ahmadkhairul337 I also mentioned I gave up on it 7 years ago. Since then I played all the other games. So yes BSB is easy to parry. And nah, in response to your last comment. I won’t quit while I’m ahead. Because I’m not ahead😂
@@Smabbott if it's so easy to parry and you said "parrying" trivialized the game, why did the boss felt so hard that you had to quit the first time you played it? You're contradicting yourself so hard right now lol 😂
@@ahmadkhairul337 I also said this was 7 years ago. Keep up.
Yup game is ass
We get it, you like Souls games😁
Jk, but really, it wasn't supposed to be a souls game, its supposed to play differently, and it obviously doesnt fit your playstyle. Doesn't mean that its bad or cheap. Everyone's entitled to their own oppinions and thats good. Although... you can equip some other items in that left hand, you know? I assume you don't always have summons in elden ring or firecrackers in sekiro😁
It's mainly through the fact that most weapons as side arms do the same stagger animation. Whether it be augur of Ebrietas or the cannon. They all basically leave the boss in a staggered state. Whereas with Sekiro prosthetics, you can stun someone, you can teleport behind someone. You can relentlessly attack someone with a kunai blade. You can flame thrower someone and ignite your blade in the process. Continuing the flow of combat. Sekiro has a lot of variety in the prosthetic arm. But thanks for the comment.
sensitive bb fanboy that didnt watch the video spotted. does bb getting critiqued as the mediocre souls game that it is get to u this much?
@@Smabbott I cant really argue with that , Sekiro is much better mechanically, we agree :)
@@flamingmanure you're the only one getting angry here dude... the only one 😁
Bloodborne has been and remains the best game from software has ever made. My feelings on the game has only really been strengthened by playing elden ring. The smaller more focused world with less Filler is what i want more of in the future from them.
The only real problems with the game is as follows: 30fps and huge framdrops with bad frame pacing. No respec option. Not being able to rest at lampposts. Great chalice bosses being gatekept by boring grindy early dungeons. Also it only being on playstation is a con in and of itself. Otherwise i just dont agree with the viewpoint in this video.
A lot of valid criticism and many more nitpicks and reaches but one really stands out as crazy. The comparison of Bloodborne's late game with that of dark souls 1 and 2. Really? Bosses aside for a minute is yahargul and Mensis on the same level as Shrine of Amana, Tomb of the giants and lost izalith? No, Yahargul and Mensis especially are amazing levels. And the one reborn although bad is better than any of the late game bosses of ds1 and ds2. And Gherman as easy to parry as Gwyn? Come on, this is a point of reaching and the shown gameplay is deceiving, you wouldn't have enough bullets to finish the fight and you didn't mention that Gherman can punish shooting by parrying you while you shoot and do massive damage.
Yeah I do believe that Bloodborne is on the level of DS1 and I can’t say for 2 as I haven’t done the second half. But yeah, I would rather fight Sif, four Kings and Nito over The One Reborn. However his soundtrack is absolutely awesome! And yeah it is easier to parry Gherman over Gwyn, because you can do it from far away as previously mentioned. Also I’ve never seen that parry counter while you shoot. Not callously our or anything, as this is literally something I missed so thank you. He literally only did it to me if I attacked him. Also as shown in the footage, you can escape the parry on yourself. In terms of bullets shown. Yes it’s deceiving for the base amount of bullets. But not if you use blood bullets, which again is a staple of the game. So that isn’t against the rules to use. Is it over the top? Yes. However, the game supplies these mechanic to the player. It was a way of demonstrating how far the game can be circumvented. But thank you for the take. I probably shouldn’t have shown the fight to that extent. But it was mainly through the fact that I love the fight, genuinely do. And this fact spoils it for me. But seriously thank you for the comment. Have a good day.
@@Smabbott more reasons this comparison is unfair: Bloodborne has 2 really bad compulsory bosses while ds1 has 5-7 depending on your taste. Gherman and the even the moon presence are much much better than Gwyn parry or not. Ds1 has awful late areas while Bloodborne has amazing areas. Late Ds1 has the most tedious boss runs while Bloodborne has very small late boss runbacks with good shortcuts.
@@Κασσάνηρ Dark Soul 1 had some very strong late areas. Duke Archives, Crystal Cave, Tomb Of The Giants, Lower New Londo (Darkwraiths area), Deep Darkroot Garden (Leadup to Sif), and I would argue upper Izalith (With the capras and no lava). But yeah, it has the worse boss runs lmao
Rom, grant him eyes
BloodBorne simply doesn’t have the replay-ability that DS3 & Sekiro have in my opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s not a masterpiece, but it gets boring much fast after 100+ hours
Don't care for the clickbait title.
As some have said already, the most valid complaint against the game is the locked 30fps.
Everything else is subjective. There is a reason Bloodborne is praised as one of the greatest games ever made.
"Everything else is subjective. There is a reason Bloodborne is praised as one of the greatest games ever made" not really, plenty of objectively negative stuff about bb, and youre thinking of dark souls and elden ring, theyre praised as some of the best most influential games ever made, elden rings influence is yet to be seen but considering the sheer amount of game devs that adored that game, its gonna do to open world what ds1 did to dungeon crawlers and 3rd person games.
bb is a fantastic game though dont get me wrong, it just doesnt have a fraction of the impact elden souls has, other than in bbs fanbase, its not in the general conversation of "best games of all time". this isn a dig on the game itself, its one of my fav games ever.
Bloodborne is overrated. The only thing preventing the vast majority of people from seeing it is the fact it is an exclusive game. Meaning that the people who would break the illusion has never played it, and the people who talks about how "amazing" it is are the only ones who have the console and had played it and are perpetuating how overrated it is. So it has this reputation that is essentially irrefutable as it's not like Dark Souls 1 where everyone can play it and challenge all the "claims" and see for themselves. Not to mention, Bloodborne fans/Fromsoftware fans will literally jump at you with a gun the moment you go out not agreeing with their opinion, so it makes people who do not share the sentiment shut up, and makes the loud people praising it even louder, it's essentially an echo chamber.
@@rae5425That’s some wild conjecture and a nice story you have and would make some sense if it wasn’t for the case that the huge number of the souls community have in fact played through Bloodborne.
Most souls players, as most genres are, are on console. Considering the PS4 out sold the Xbox One by twice as much and it’s the same with the most current sales reports for the Ps5 and Xbox Series X/S, AND that Bloodborne was free on PS5 at release along with the Demon Souks Remaster, I’m willing to bet more people have played Bloodborne than your story suggests.
Is Bloodborne perfect? No. Is it the best? No I don’t think so but i suspect many people hold it up as one of the greatest due to its setting and atmosphere above all else. The people that praise it highly always comment on that at the top of their praise and can be enough for people to overlook flaws, not because it’s being held up by a small community of exclusive players…
“Popular therefore good” yeah no. FPS sucks but every other complaint is equally valid. You can sit through playing the entire game but you can’t watch an hour long video to see how someone else’s opinion is different than yours? Weird
Bloodborne is not perfect and like every game it has flaws but calling it a "Mediocre Disappointment" is wild, the real disappointing thing is the lack of a remake or 60fps/resolution patch
Disappointing is more of a pseudonym to overrated. But it was taken. On a reflection it makes it worse. But it is what it is. I would change the title of the vid. But the intro has the title in it. So I can’t.
The Elden ring video in the description had me dying 😂😂😂
This video is disappointing
You have se#ual assault the anime as your profile picture 😂
@@kidplaysgame3590 what’s that got to do with anything among us ipad kid?
“lmao gottem”
You're bais is disappointment.
@@Evorexwolf me appreciating a factually sound game is not disappointing
This was the first souls game I played after Elden ring after hearing all the praise it has. It was very much hyped up as the best souls game.
After beating all of them, this is basically only better then DS1/2.
I was so disappointed. I think people like this game solely because of lore and aesthetics?
Farming for healing is the worst fucking thing in any souls game I’ve experienced. These bosses were not only easy, but a complete mess. Every fight is a battle with the camera and every fight is trivialized by me simply breaking camera lock and hitting a boss in the back. Many attacks are terribly telegraphed, and this game also contains probably 2 of the worst boss fights in the franchise. Also, gun parry is fucky. Was not reliable so I very rarely ever used it.
Most of my disappoint came from how stupidly easy and how boring/unchallenging these bosses are. I’ll never understand people who live and die but this game
Because of tedium mate. Some bosses like Rom or Mikolash are built to be annoying and RNG heavy. If you don’t have that good run. You will die. Through no fault of your own.
Can't believe you didn't mention the 2 Shark-giant boss fight🤣🤣🤣!!!
Bloodborne was my first soul's game and the first one I beat. I didn't get the hang of the parry mechanic until my 3rd playthrough, so my difficulty experience was different. I still play this game more than any other From Software game (11037 hours and counting) and enjoy it immensely.
That being said, I can't find fault with any of your criticisms of the game. I appreciate the fair and balanced take and the examples being counter-balanced with positive and objective takes. Amazing video you've earned my respect and a sub!!!
Glad to hear it man! Thanks so much for the great comment! I’ll be honest with you, I’ve seen so many people talk about and fight that encounter I was like. Nah not even gonna try it😂 but thank you very much!
10000h ? Do you realise how precious and finite your life is ? Do you realise what you could have achieved with 10000 dedicated hours of brain power ?
I'm sorry you are feeling remorseful about how you've spent your time up until now. But it's never to late to turn things around.
I've achieved the majority of goals I've set for myself personally, financially and romantically. Start with a goal list and I'm sure you can do the same. Good luck!@@wordsshackles441
@@wordsshackles441 We all move on from this world sooner or later, though. And by then, our accomplishments mean absolutely nothing. Not to us, anyway. That's why having as fun as possible, while you can, is not a bad idea.
It's not about accomplishment, it's about meaning and realizing one's self.@@Sandlund93
You well argue your opinion so i respect it. Tho i wonder why compare Bloodborne with sekiro, dark souls 3 and elden ring that came out later and use a lot of what Bloodborne did
@@juanrincon131 thank you, it’s mainly a response to how people still think this is the peak of the franchise. So using what came after feels appropriate if this is still considered gold standard.
For me personally, as somenone who doesn't spam the gun and tries to parry cautiously, parry doesn't make the game too easy, it's just a rather rewarding mechanic. As for the areas, besides nightmare frontier, Byrgenwerth and forbiden woods, I enjoyed them all and found them MUCH better than DS 3 areas, the entire 2nd half of Dark Souls and than Sekiro areas. Many weapons feel the same(saw cleaver, spear) most do not. And out of all of the games, it might be the one with the least amount of recycling. If you give huge bluk towards boss quality DS 3 and Sekiro are ahead. For area design none tops it imo. And, as for rewarding exploration obvisuly Elden Ring is number 1, with Bloodborne maybe 3rd or 4th. For FromSoft standards, it should be 4th at worst with very specific criteria. Not a dissapointing for me even in From Softs catalog. I won't argue if you think Sekiro is better, and Elden Ring might be too. But as for the rest, them being better than Bloodborne is questionalbe at least. Great video regardless, I simply would say that some of your points aren't huge negatives, or at least not as big as some negatives in other games
Yeah completely understand that. Yeah the title is more of a buzzword than anything. I mean, it was disappointing to me. But it isn't a disappointment. And yeah the recycled.content is definitely the least in Bloodborne. In terms of the areas, well most of the video is subjective points so yeah, personally I just find the areas blend too much. But can completely see where you're coming from! Thanks for the comment!
"might be the one with the least amount of recycling" not if u count the chalice dungeons, something alot of bb fans dont factor in when talking about bloodborne as a whole because it lowers its quality quite a bit.
as for boss quality elden ring is also far above bb, even alot of its mini bosses are better and higher quality than alot of main bosses.
"I won't argue if you think Sekiro is better, and Elden Ring might be too. But as for the rest, them being better than Bloodborne is questionalbe at least." i think elden ring is above both sekiro and especially bloodborne, but thats all preference, also why would you argue or think its questionable to think the rest are better games? thats the thing about bb fanboys though, alot of them cant take opinions. for example i think ds1 overall is a much better more innovative game, it evolved the demons souls formula while bb for the most part just copy pastes dark souls formula with only tweaked combat abit and changed up weapon design, each of the games have their own merits and each will appeal to certain folks depending on those merits, for example i think bloodborne is a pretty mediocre souls game, i think ds1 and 3, sekiro and especially elden ring are far better, but bb is better than demons and ds2 imo. its all opinions.
@@flamingmanure DS 1 average boss quality is among the worst in FromSoft with some recycling(Asylum demon is identical to Vanguard, and he also appears 3 times, or Taurus and Capra demons apearing everywhere. The only recycling of Bloodborne bosses are Lawrence and Shadows of Yahrnam). As for areas, Bloodborne is confortably better than any game but DS 1. Bosses, would be 3rd-4th. Combat, would be 2nd. Build variety, IDK, because you can make a character able to use any wepaon effectively as the highest requirement is 20 besides hunter tools. As for Elden Ring, which secondary boss is that good? There are like a million Crucible Knights, Misbegottens, Tree (asylum) sentinels, like 4 black knife assasins, 5 Elemes of the Briar, damn even 2 Godricks and Godfreys(although 1st phase Godfrey is great unlike its shadow). Catacombs are much worse than chalice dugeons. Their ony enemies are those imps who are DS 3 Greirats btw, watchog(cat miniboss). And has mostly recycled bosses. Bloodborne chalice dungeons have +10 enemies not in the base game, and 5 new bosses(3 without including NPCs, 7 if you include NPCs and enemies that appear once in base game as regular enemies, those being that weird demon, and abohorrent beast). Elden Ring highs are very high, but its lows are undeniably horrendous. As for DS 3, far better bosses, worse areas, more lineal(can be good or bad depending on who you ask) and few recycling. DS3 can be considered better I'll give you that, as long as you put very heavy focus on boss fights.
Farming for basic health items and bullets is an absolute no-go. It means the developers are hindering the player to get better by making him spend less time with the bosses and more with farming.
It’s interesting how the stuff some people hate about Bloodborne, is the stuff I like.
I think what I love most about BB though, is how is made me feel, but that stuff is very subjective.
However, you put a lot of work into your video, so great job on that!
Bloodborne was very disappointing to me. All the bosses were easy, but navigating the world and getting to the bosses was harder than any game I've ever played. That isn't my idea of fun, and I would have never made it through the game without the internet.
Yeah I genuinely think that’s how these games are built now. Don’t know what to do? Look it up.
I love bloodborne and even with it's shortcomings never disappointed me
An excellently well-crafted video my man. You should definitely be proud of the hard work you put into it; an absolutely bangin' critique.
Thanks man. It also is a bias for you for your hate of Bloodborne. For reasons...
So we can talk about how the posture system in Sekiro is just as broken right? If not more broken, more cheesy than the gun imo
Just curious. How is it?
Bruh thats because its the core mechanic 🤦.
@@4ballssssExactly. Like the gun
But it’s not. A more apt comparison would be dodging in BB vs parrying in Sekiro. You can easily beat BB without touching the gun. Good luck beating Sekiro without parrying
Glad to finally see people not glazing the living shit out of bb, I think it’s great but it’s not any better than every other souls game
10:21 skill issue
The simple fact of comparing a game with future titles from the same series is honestly beyond my understanding ; that's is by far the stupiest shit ever.
Imagine saying something like : the Witcher 3 do these stuff better than The witcher 2 and 1 like man , YOU DON'T SAY ; you are a genius how could anyone figure that out🤯
@@YourFriendlyGymRat it’s understanding that people still consider it to be the best of the series even today. So yes it’s very relevant to include later entries when people still say that this game did it the best.
You're working on the false presumption that fromsoft improves on everything with each release. Ofc graphics and mechanical complexity will greater, but this won't make a game good itself. ED has great graphics yet they reuse bosses and enemies constantly, damage and attacks are all over the top while your character can only jump and roll and npc quests are so obtuse and easy to miss you won't even know you've missed them most of the time. Despite it's size, it pales in comparison to immersion of DS1 and boss design of DS3.
I'm going to dislike this and not watch it because I don't want to reward clickbait. But from the comments it sounds like you made a lovely video and I enjoyed your lies of p video so I look forward to future content.
Fair play. Thank you. But if you think I put it in for a quick click. It wasn’t meant to be that way. Because most comments are just people saying they hate the video. But thank you!
Bloodborne is the game I’ve started playing the most of any souls title, and yet the only one I’ve never finished. Hell I’ve beaten Dark Souls 2 more times.
Something about it never felt right to me, and I think you hit the nail on the head with some of those reasons. A shame to see that already some people are being way too defensive in the comments and not hearing you out.
Thanks. It’s one of those things unfortunately. Everyone is entitled to their opinion so it doesn’t bother me. Just wish they’d talk about something else rather than the parry😂 But thank you.
Bloodborne was my second soulsborne game after ds3 but Bloodborne didn’t quite catch me, I think the game is overrated. It’s definitely not a bad game but it just doesn’t quite live up to the praise it gets
Yeah I agree. But even if you say it’s still good, people just automatically assume you hate it.
@@Smabbott exactly
i respect you as a person, but not your opinion
Cheers😂
i say this in the nicest way possible because i really appreciate the work that went into this video, and i respect your opinions... this video is just full of biases, bad takes, overlooking things and a clear misinterpretation of the mechanics of the game. i understand subjectivity and preferences, but to call this an honest critique is a bit dubious.
Cheers. I appreciate the honesty.
This is a troll video, right? it has to be. like how else are you gonna complain about inconsistent boss design and then immediately turn around and complain about consistent architecture within a single city, in the first 2 minutes of the video? not to mention the very visible difference between an open clearing with a few trees and a single path down the middle vs the many twisting and winding maze of pathways through a deep forest. even the tombstones look completely different between the two areas! every single separate area you've shown clips of to this point has distinct features, enemies, or landmarks that make it immediately apparent exactly where you are, entirely debunking your complaint about the lack of defining features and landmarks as you make it. and the icing on the cake, the assertion that Bloodborne has no wow moment is just. absolutely s tier trolling. just brilliant. it really is quite impressive. almost makes me want to start a youtube career and make a reaction to it, but instead I think I'll just buckle in, smoke a bowl, and enjoy the ride. cheers!
Completely agree with you.
did you really need 6 lines to say this nonsense?
bloodborne clowns showcasing how pathetically bad they are at taking critique, its getting embarrassing how stereotypical it has become.
"how else are you gonna complain about inconsistent boss design and then immediately turn around and complain about consistent architecture within a single city," because boss design has nothing to do with architecture, not in his context atleast.
"ot to mention the very visible difference between an open clearing with a few trees and a single path down the middle vs the many twisting and winding maze of pathways through a deep forest" lol talk about being laughably selective, the game is 90% copy pasted samey grey castles, corridors, hallways, coffins and gravestones. the visual distinction between areas is laughable next to fromsofts other games.
"even the tombstones look completely different between the two areas! every single separate area you've shown clips of to this point has distinct features, enemies, or landmarks that make it immediately apparent exactly where you are" nope, nope and laughably nope, especially in central yharnam and cathedral ward.
" the assertion that Bloodborne has no wow moment is just." compared to anor londo, erithyl or literally most of elden ring? nope, bb doesnt have a wow moment. its, again, mostly just copy pasted grey castles, churches, corridors, hallways, and rooms with a few small open spaces that are just as samey as the interiors are. yahargul is the closest bb got to a wow moment and its a copy pasted area from when u got kidnapped by the kidnappers.
@@flamingmanure
Just say you didn't play the game brother 😅
@@ahmadkhairul337 It's true tho?
I just completed my first playthrough of bloodborne since i finally managed to save enough money for a ps5 😂 and i pretty much agree with everything here i think people have massive nostalgia for this game witch is fine dont get me wrong for me my nostalgia is demons souls in my eyes demons souls is perfect im absolutely biassed but i dont care since i played demons souls to death back in 2010 and absolutely loved it 😂
"God gave me a gun so I will use the gun." - the main criticism.
I've been playing Bloodborne, since Release over the years on multiple occasions, and I have to agree on most of the points you made.
As hard as it is to Admit.
Still a great game though.
i’ve been baited. enjoy your ad revenue
Ahhhh, majestic! Bait is bait even in a video essay!
You've summoned the Yharnam mob 😂. They just want you to sing its praises so they can nod along and have their feelings validated. Bloodborne is in my top 5 games of all times but I recognize its flaws/shortcomings.
Nice one mate. I’m glad it’s in your top 5! You have no idea how mad the Yharnam mob can be dude😂
As a seasoned souls player and member of the the reddit communities I can tell u that Bloodborne fans do talk about the endgame drop off in quality that every game in the series has. The combat is the most engaging and has the best weapons plus satisfying parrying mechanic and not to mention the rally mechanic which should have been kept in other entries as it makes aggressive gameplay viable instead of sitting behind a shieldall game scared. The game also has a dlc only rivaled by ds3. I'm glad this video is an unpopular opinion because it's a disservice to a game that came out so long ago and got so much right. I agree not being able to rest at the lantern is annoying and the fact vials r a finite resource is annoying for new players but after a couple areas shouldn't b a problem unless u r wasteful and don't utilise the rally mechanic. I appreciate the game isn't perfect but u r entitled to your own opinion but I don't think u give it enough credit in some areas and the tone is better and more consistent than all the other games. Very well made video though and definitely was fun to see your views as it is refreshing to see something that isn't just praise 👍best lore aswell. I can keep going with praise for the game but enough people do that in video form
Thank you. Yeah is gree there are some things in Bloodborne which are incredible. And thanks for the clarification of the endgame debate. As I just hear radio silence. But yeah thank you for the watch and I'm glad you like the game. I think the game is great on its own. But when I compare it to the rest of From. It just has so many shortcomings which make it worse imo. But thanks bud I appreciate it.
@@dhenwkdneisbdiwbsks3832 Bar Dark Souls 2 and Demon Souls as I haven't played it. Yeah.
@@dhenwkdneisbdiwbsks3832 I would. But, watch the vid.
i wouldnt call it the most engaging combat, its easily the most spammy and least strategic game in the series, disagreed with the weapons, the good weapons are really good to play with, like saw cleaver, pizza cutter and ludwigs blade, but overall alot of the weapons are just better to spam R1 with rather than transform, in alot of cases its better to stick to one side of a transformation than the other, elden ring has better weapons due to jumping attacks and ashes of war, not to mention the laughably better and more creative art designs, it beats bb in both quality, design and variety.
@@dhenwkdneisbdiwbsks3832 i find it laughable when bb fanboys speaks about bias when ur fanbase is easily the most immature, biased and delusional of all the souls fanbases, hell this is a stereotype known to all of us XD all souls games require R1 inputs to win yes, bb is the one thats the MOST spammy and mindless between them though. ER fixed that by requiring you to press more than the R1 button to win, R2s, charging attacks, jumping R1s and 2s, ashes of war, the R1 is now just a appetizer attack to complement the main meal, unlike bb. never break boss posture with only R1s and the bosses get way harder that way, quality over quantity in combat my friend :) ER bosses are far above bb bosses in both quality and variety.
" more iconic bosses and definitely better creative art design being way more interesting in lore and atmosphere" again, i find it laughable that u say the bias is unreal then vomit this delusional nonsense out XD elden ring has better art and design limgrave alone than the entirety of bbs regurgitated samey atmosphere. the art style of ER is gigantically far above bb, which is one dimensional at best, not to mention all the copy pasted grey castles, churches, coffins and the one trillion gravestones all over the place, it got boring and almost cringey. more iconic bosses? im just gonna go ahead and disagree since most of them are generic beasts, and bb has the worst main boss stretch of the entire series, its shadows into rom into one reborn into micolash, just garbage boss quality all over the place, legit elden ring has higher quality mini bosses then bb main bosses. the lore can be interesting when it doesnt make me cringe, its obsession with its dark atmosphere is edgy to me, and this can be seen with its npcs, the worst most uninspired npcs in the series, al they do is just talk about BLOOD HUNT BLOOD HUNT MOON BLOD HUNT, they have no real personality, a very one dimensional style over substance game if you ask me.
"you have hundreds of the same type of weapon doing the same motion the only difference is the ashes of war which is only one move difference whereas" you have more weapon classes and special weapons with special animations in ER than bb(most bb weapons are literally just dark souls weapons mushed together lol), and theres 30 combat ashes of war, and then theres jumping attacks lol, and then you can dual wield, giving u 2 ashes of war, bloodbornes cute little R1+L1 attacks and double transformation animations are laughable next to that level of quality and variety, lol talk about bias, also u still never actually answered my critiques. there are great weapons where weapon transformation actually works, like rakuyo, cleaver, ludwigs blade and a few more, but overall for alot of the weapons, especially the heavy ones, its far better to just stick to one side of the transformation and spam R1, most enemies dont even have poise unlike elden souls, alot of the weapons have objectively better sides to them, why would you ever want to use the shortrange axe when the long range is just laughably better in everyway? the only reason to switch would be for parrying which has its own problems, this applies to so many weapons and i wouldnt call that "quality" designs. also blade of mercy and saif?? really? brah those weapons are garbage next to the good ones, they have great gameplay and animations but just awful damage, which applies to alot of weapons actually when compared to things like saw cleaver, pizza cutter and ludwigs blade. for a game all about "quality" weapons, this really shouldnt be the case, especially when theres only about 25 of them, making its weapon balance even worse than elden souls, how is a game with super duper "high quality" weapons have such bad balancing when theres only 25 of them XD
"blood borne the trick weapons allow for variety in dealing with enemy such as the axe for short range and the transformed to many range and what about the rakuyo or the beast hunter saif or the blades of mercy where you switch between weapons so no bb" elden rings combat and build customizability is laughably higher in variety when it comes to dealing with enemies and this is a fact, again, bb fanboy bias is always funny to point out. also u said that alot of elden ring weapons have the same motion, but forgot to mention the variables between them, the differences are range, attack type, R2 attacks(thrust vs bash vs vertical slash vs horizontal slash) damage type and even the art design (which is FAR above bb weapons in art design, alot of which just look ok).
there, hopefully this shattered your delusional bias. the game has alot of flaws, wether you accept them or not is up to you. elden ring has alot of flaws too but the difference is eldens fanbase actually talk about them lol, guys cant take it when ppl point out ur mediocre souls game's flaws. have u even watched this video? its funny to say it has more iconic bosses in bb after watching this vid brah, legit margit alone is more iconic than most bb bosses, how many times have i seen :"lay these ambitions to rest" online by now? its fromsofts best magnum opus for a reason, and even moyazaki himself agrees, he said "elden ring is the closest ive ever been to my most ideal game", get over it champ.
Bloodborne is really good, but I look at it like this whenever I see BB fans say it’s the best FromSoft game : If Bloodborne and Elden Ring hypothetically came out the same year Elden Ring would still be game of the year.
While Bloodborne is incredibly good, I just don’t see it on Elden Ring’s level. I put Elden Ring in the Tier of games where something like the Witcher 3 would be, I don’t think Bloodborne is on that same level.
I have problems with Elden Ring. But it is my second favourite to just pick up and play. Completely understand why you think that and I completely agree!
no worries most ppl dont see bb on that level, the bb fanbase just has a massive inferiority complex since its just known as grey dark souls (which it pretty much is) outside of its fanbase. not to mention abysmal sales figures too.
Bloodborne is far superior to witcher
@@diegoportillo21 there I will completely agree!
Bloodborne is 8 years old.