Hired For Murder Cases | DOUBLE EPISODE | The New Detectives
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- 00:01:33 DEADLY DEALINGS
00:54:35 PRICE OF MURDER
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The New Detectives is an American docudrama where world-renowned forensics experts and criminal investigators solve a wide range of cases.
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Sometimes the legal system is a joke. The person who hires/convinces someone to murder should at minimum get the exact same punishment as the person who actually did it. The fact that in one case the wife only got 7 years while the guy got 25 is a disgrace, she was just as guilty of pulling the trigger & in the second case, if he got death then she should’ve gotten it also.
Esp when you think that the person wouldn't have gotten killed if it hadn't been for the person hiring the killer..and if that one hired killer had refused they could've hired someone else. The person hiring is the essential ingredient in all of it
@@lilmoe4364 exactly!!
@Kenyatta Clay agree!
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@@BiblicalTeachings first, the legislator is part of the legal system & just like judges and prosecutors they are often elected positions.
Second, it is in very few cases where judges hands are tied to the point where someone only gets so little time. When someone is charged with murder & murder for hire even in a plea deal the judge can choose to accept, alter or reject the deal. There’s no way that woman should’ve gotten so little time.
Update: As of 12/2/22: Joyce Cohen was up for parole in 2013. The board not only denied her release, but extended her possible release date to 2048. As of 2022, she's already in her late 70's.
Sure parole.boards can ad sentence
@@mack8488 yes they can.
@@fdt1469 my mind is bogled
Good.
@@mack8488I don't think parole boards can add to the sentence either. They can't in Arkansas, where I'm from. But I guess it depends on the law of the state.
The master mind Holman got only 7 years and the hitman 25yrs????? INSANE SENTENCE!!!!
I don’t understand why in SOME cases all involved get charged with the same thing-but not all. Especially “if not for the organizer of the murder” it would not have happened. That person should get at least what the person who pulled the trigger gets or more.
In the Insane sentence.....the punctuation is missing......
The master mind , Holman ,
got only 7 years . The hitman got 25 years .
because murder has a longer sentence than conspiracy to commit murder. what i never understood is, if you plan to rob a bank & someone dies (including one of your fellow thieves) , everyone involved gets charged for that persons death. commission of a felony where a death occurs results in all those involved in the original felony being charged with murder. conspiracy to commit murder is a felony, so why dont they charge everyone the same.....thats the confusing part for me.
When a spouse hires someone to kill spouse, he/she is just as guilty and complicit as the one who pulled the trigger
Joint enterprise.
Absolutely.
The first woman should have been found Not Guilty by way of Stupidity. She couldn’t even flush the tissue?! Wtf?
Hah!
She's so confused then .. perhaps
Lol😂😂
murdereers always mess up something that leads to their arrest !
@@virginiapace8511jn h 😊
Great stories. Thanks!
It just blows my mind how somebody can ask one to kill somebody and they be like "sure no problem" what the what??!
In almost all these stories, women seem to get the lighter sentence even when they were the ones that come up with the idea of killing their spouse.
Unless they are poor and unattractive. That combo is a death sentence
It’s bc “they’re girls” - justice system and juries can’t seem to understand women are every bit as violent and evil as any male perpetrator.
Women almost always get significantly lighter sentences than men, even if they commit the same crime side by side with one another and even if the woman does not cut a deal. There are a least a few cases I have come across in which the man received life while the woman received probation.
It is a known fact that men receive harsher sentences than women.
It's almost disgusting that a sworn law enforcement officer would question why any person would want any attorney present during questioning. First, it's a guaranteed right, second... innocent people have been railroaded by the police because they didn't have an attorney
You are so right
Yep
I can guarantee you’d hear those gunshots inside the same house unless you were completely deaf
Love the show...
The New Detectives..
Please upload more espiodes I would really appreciate it 😊
Thanks
Yes. Please make more.!!
I tell my partner and family to always, always request an attorney. I have heard so many horror stories about cops twisting words.
Agree: "Anything you say will be used against you."
Cap you do the crime you do the time what’s an attorney gonna do get you off murder charges you commit
@@tyquanjones3114 attorneys know the law they can a lot of times get you a lighter sentence. Let them do the work but the evidence speak for itself.
@@gordonpeden6234 can be used against you.What could you possibly expect?If they have your confession,they aren’t going to ignore it.
@@eh-i1841 Some people just don't "get it" sadly some never do.
What a terrible terrible death to be beaten with bats and burnt alive What an evil threesome. Fantastic detective work to get them at least the punishment was fitting, I don't think there's much that would surprise the detectives as to what people can do to each other
Yes absolutely horrific!
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@1:18:55 7 years for conspiracy of murder? Without any "emergency" of abuse or domestic violence? Her sentence should be the same as Charles's.
I'm not brave enough to be a police officer, not smart enough to be an EMT. Thank you for being there!
yes you are!
Lol
Tammy Holman only got 7 years? Geeze!
Which means she already has been released, I believe it happened in the early 2000... they might have sent her to bed without any dinner.
I agree! She should have gotten much more!
It crazy right but her karma was she didn’t get to see her kids I seen them both talking about how they can’t never forgive her but I’m sure she had more kids she was a cheater so u no she living good while her kids lost dad she evil
Have 4 seasons of this on DVD lol, have loved this show since 2007.
Me too
I don’t know why women almost always, get lighter sentences than men when they have the same criminal mind as some men do, and are capable of committing a crime as men do. I don understand the mind of the criminal justice in these cases. A criminal is a criminal whether actually killing somebody or arranging the killings involving other people. It is unbelievable.
I see that often too, but I don't see women getting lesser sentences just because they are women.
Always get an attorney when the police want to talk.
I think that you meant when you talk to the police 🚓🚨
I would appreciate Kenneth Feinberg being my lawyer.
The first case- “...she was up, she let them in...” - “Oh, the men are here to KILL MY HUSBAND- I’ll just get the door”. omfg 🤦🏻♀️ as if it were the Avon lady. Insanity.
Greed from the 2 sons and they stole killed their father, who worked his whole life to build up his company. wow
That's so 😔 bad
At 54 seconds: "some kill for love." That's BS. People don't kill for love. Lust, jealousy, possessiveness, bitterness over rejection maybe, but those things are not love.
It says it's a double episode, I count three
How is Joyce gonna say I didn't hear 4 shots. They said he was shot 4 times.
Ear muffs??
Guilt.She heard.
@@gordonpeden6234 Even with ear muffs on, you would still hear gun shots.
I love watching but my only problem is the narrators voice lulls me to sleep.
That woman just got seven years!!! She should have got life. That is just not right.
Unfortunately, IMO, if you didn't actually pull the trigger your sentence is lighter. You're right though. I think if you do something to intentionally brings about murder, one is just AS GUILTY as the person who committed the murder. LIFE, at least, for sure.
White privilege
That's The American Way
I saw the same case story but they were black and all of them got life with no parole
This is not right you get more time for drug crimes or hurting a dog what is a human life worth . I think death unless its an accident
Why did you have to spoil it for us who hadn't seen the episode??
Lies fall apart in the face of the truth.
He gets 25 years and she gets eight years and her Husband gets 6 feet under ground
Doesn't feel exactly balanced does it? 🤔
That’s why I don’t have much confidence on the legal system or the IQs of a lot of judges.
Isn't normal? She slept with the judges!
Female privilege at its finest.
I've seen that so many times, but I don't see it having anything to do with whether they are female or not. Money for good lawyers is the trick as far as I'm concerned.
On the first story, was the death sentences carried out?
marilyn plantz was executed in 2001
The background music around 9:00 😆 i need to see what the person looks like that is hired to do this job. I’m really hoping it’s Jason Segel.
The Patalogs must have nerve of steel!
I loves detectives files is like god showing things on the other sides finds the killers them i hates killers that kills the inocents
I think you are right. 2 hours don't make a suspect either.
Music is annoying & loud, as is background chatter.
Why did Mrs. Cohen kill her husband? Why did she have him killed? For what reason?
these ridiculously short punishments for crimes are the direct result of career politicians & law makers passing laws. to normal Americans, these punishments seem insane, & thats because career politicians & law makers live a different life than us. theyre essentially modern royalty, and so their idea of a fair punishment is totally out of whack from what a normal persons is. they dont go to work mon-fri, they dont struggle the same ways, they go to fancy schools, to the capitol, then operate in a twisted ecosystem of deception, so its no shock their idea of a fitting punishment is nuts. it would be no different than having 6yr olds plan dinner for a family
What a heartless, Bch She’s such a heartless woman to kill the father of her children. She never loved him then, because when you love someone you don’t kill that person.
In four hours she could get rid of the incriminating stuff.
Fortunately she didn't wash her hands enough to get rid of the gunshot powder.
gun* powder
Or flush that tissue.
But didn't she have someone else shoot him?
What a sad that the wife is so Evil.
That is so convenient that she was not even injured and at the man was killed to me. She was involved with it with the killing of her husband.
I went out with my buddies to my bosses house dintd return till 7am my wife was pissed all she said aholes I've been calling every hospital in Illinois dhead😮
They spent 2 more years investigating🤔
Yes its murder
10:02 That's John Singleton from Cocaine Cowboys!
Why need ro hired to killed the husband just to get insurance..
Insane...
Ladies and Gents.....the POSSESSIVE of the name, Plants.....is NOT...Plants's
Like he's saying "plant-zes".
His last name ends in "s"
To show "possession" ,
You WRITE Plants'......
And u SAY. Plants
Jim Plants' shoes
Marilyn Plants' purchase at Walmart
Mr and Mrs Plants' home.
The Plants' home
NOT...the Plantzes home.
The reason it SOUNDS wrong every time the narrator SAYS it, is because it's wrong.
One of the Detectives in the film itself never says it wrong......he AVOIDS saying "plantzes" by rerouting his sentence to say, "the home of the Plants".......because he doesn't want to use that term that "sounds so wrong to his ears".....the Plantzes.
It SOUNDS WRONG BECAUSE it IS wrong🤦🏻♀️
Well said.It’s so aggravating,to hear,or read Americans mangling the English language.’Gotten’ makes me cringe.
@@eh-i1841 how bout "tooken"
Oh mercy....."he tooken me to my maws place."
Instead of "we are living in Jonesboro now"..... we be stayin' ta jonesboro......🤦🏻♀️
Did you answer the door when they knocked?
"Naw, we be sleep." 🙄
I remember the first time I heard someone use the word "ain't". The entire classroom got silent all at once. Or. "All at oncet"
Ain't---------- crickets🦗
🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭.....my fault....I taught English. I can still diagram sentences.
Most people don't even know what that means. 😉
Aw, plant it! 😄
@@joeylamuel5828 🤭🤭🤭🤭
RIp Ms. Joyce Gilchrist
Somebody probably killed him first and then put the truck To burn with his body inside of it They put him inside the truck after they had already killed him
The second case was so gridy and cruel 😢 killed thier own parents.
@1:13:04: "Pointing" to each other with unchecked rifles??????? Ridiculous.
LJ!!!!!!
Why these people wicked so what is proson and death for people to loves they or crazy
The last case was.. stared to kill her husband 😯so cruel wife just for the money
How could she kill her husband with her little girl been in the house she’s heartless she never loved that man when you love when you love someone you don’t hurt them you don’t kill them. I don’t understand how people can be so heartless murderer. She’s the murderer demon.
These aren’t produced as well as the FBI files. Pretty mundane, not much info.
Daddy's dead and mommas on death row.....seems like an aweful sad time ⌚ be those children....ppffshh
I usually think the acting is pretty dang good but the lady who plays Joyce in the beginning was 😑🤭
It's not a good idea to put your spouse as the beneficiary for any amount !
You're wrong. Successful couples should absolutely look out for one another.
Terrible wife's.
ZZ
Re-run!
Yes and a good one too. They all are reruns but this was a good show.!!
So??
There's nothing like Christian love. What a joke!!
Boring 😴.
I'm always glad they eventually get caught.
But man, people can be sooo nosey & notice the strangest things 😂
Good for them.
Thank goodness. I wouldn't all it nosey, though
First case "friend"called at 5:00 AM then 3:00 ? uh
the coroner in the first case should have been fired for not doing his job properly and just writing a time of death based on someones statement in a homicide, the 5 extra minutes it would have taken to confirm the lividity patterns would have saved a couple years off the investigation by telling them that the wife was lying about the time
Agree with others that the laws need to change regarding sentencing. If you kill someone you should get life and if you are paying someone else to do the dirty work you should get the same.
That's usually the case from what I've seen, I think this case in an exception.
@@NoName-yn5bhin America? I level seen murderers get released so many times I can’t even count.
@@clairebear206 yes in America. Usually if found guilty of soliciting a murder the person who planned it gets life.
There is a case in Florida, Dan Markel was murdered in his driveway. The hired hands are in prison for life, yet the people who hired them go free. Actually one finally was arrested and trial hasn't come up yet but it took a long 5 years, and there are 2 more to go. It happens all the time
OK what about this it was a man who planned his girlfriend's murder by asking her what time are you coming home and she told him at 5:30and when she got home he was waiting in their garage and he shot her in her thigh to disable her then he shot her in the stomach and in her head and chest and she was pregnant by him 5months along and he stab her in her neck and he didn't serve 1day in jail but his accomplance did and she's there for life and she wasn't the killer he was sooo if she go he should be able to go also after all he's the real culprit
5:27 loved ones of deceased being uncooperative reminds me of a current case in Jamaica where an autistic 9 year old boy was said to have been abducted from a car being driven by his mom and then later killed. After a court order his mom still refuses to allow cops access to her phone record. I would be too anxious to prove my innocence and have my child's killer/killers brought to justice . This doesn't sit well with me🙄🤔
If it’s court ordered,how can she stop them?
@@eh-i1841 her lawyer has filed an injunction in a higher court preventing the cops from doing so. This court will make a decision as to whether or not the previous court order should be overturned.
She has too many skeletons in her closet that are bigger than her son’s death. Maybe she’s involved in illegal activities or affairs 🤷♂️ doesn’t necessarily have to be related to the murder
Someone that's innocent, especially in the case of they're missing or possibly dead child, would do anything and everything to find them. Affairs and illegal activity be damned. Most of that if unrelated to the crime is hidden from the public anyways
She went to prison for seven years. She should’ve gone for life to prison because He’s the one that told him to kill him. She should’ve gone to prison for life not seven years.
I wouldn't call police if my husband was two hours late from work. I would assume he went out w/a friend (buddy, not female,) worked late, went for a workout, went shopping, etc. Am I weird? 'Can't imagine calling police, even if it was all night. I'd be mad, but I wouldn't call police. If it was all night, I wouldn't know until morning, anyway, because I'd have gone to bed.
If my spouse is working out of town, I immediately would call the law enforcements.....CHP, local law enforcements and such. They have modern day technology.
If my spouse was working in a remote area, I would immediately call law enforcements.
I would immediately ask law enforcements to do a welfare check.
No way. With how way it is to send a text msg. 2 hours without so much as a, I'm good but guns be late message and I would wonder what was going on
Old Man can barely text. And I mean when we were young; no cell phones.
@@dianahill5116 after 2 hours? That’s weird. And probably wasting their time.
@@jjohnson6833
Why should it bother you; that a spouse contacts law enforcement?
In many marriages, spouses actually know each other's routines, when their spouse is working out of town, or in a remote area.
There is nothing wrong with doing a welfare check. Many spouses actually know their spouse's medical needs.
It's becoming more common than ever for men to be victims of domestic violence.
And it's not something society likes to highlight.
That cannot be called justice
My husband is never out reach, and if he’s late he lets me know. Every time , for 35 years, it’s a pattern and a courtesy.
My husband doesn’t “just go out “with friends.
conspirators and masterminds usually get life or death, tammy gets 7yrs? she must've slept with the judge
these criminals should come to Africa.....here police doesnt need a search warrant to check your house....actually they slap u before you even explain anything 😅
There are good Watchers, Angels among us..
@ 1:30:20 "The victim was a used car salesman with no known enemies." REALLY? I call BS on this one.
25:41 Not disposing of these things because she didn't have time, I can understand but keeping bloody things together with children's things, now that's really sick. What if the kids opened the closet?
Great show
That poor father. His own sons....
This is one of the stupidest murder for hire cases ever. Someone randomly breaks in, shoots only the husband 4 times, runs away without stealing anything and drops the gun??? What an idiot this woman is if she really thought that was plausible...
Tammy Holman should have gotten life without parole being the mastermind behind her husband’s murder. To only give her 7 years in prison is a miscarriage of justice. She had so many lovers like she changed clothes everyday. unbelievable woman who used men for her own personal gains. Unfortunately, men fell in her traps.
Killing for money is the old story of the book, and greed is a mortal sin; so Tammy will find out what is waiting for her in the afterlife when she dies. But until then, she will be released from prison to continue enjoying her life while her husband is deceased 6 feet under in his grave. It is not fair but who said life is fair? As the investigator said, she was a black widow alright. Sad and tragic for Mr. Holman, he didn’t know the kind of woman he had for a wife. May Mr. Holman Rest Peacefully always 🙏💐
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In that band, they should’ve picked up the flab on it. There’s a compartment on the bottom they should’ve checked that I bet you that whatever they beat him with was hiding under there I know she paid that meant to kill him and she planned it at all for his life insurance on you that right from the from the beginning
All should be treated equally within the court system.
Yes,they should,that is what justice is all about,surely.
Why are the names change you’ve done murders and they kill people? Why should they be protected from people not knowing their names?
She didn’t hear shots
If the police officer wouldn’t have touched it, they could’ve tried it. Do you like That smoke thing that they do to find fingerprints
She’s acting she’s involved in the murder of her husband. If he doesn’t start breathing, she’s involved with this murder.
If it weren't for our great State of Florida here, there might not be too many of these types of shows to air! I remember almost all of these cases!
The melting temperature of glass is almost 3000° That’s how hot the truck was burning💀
AweZome show Thanks
In the last episode of this program the detective mentioned the husband and wife marriage was on the rocks. I have a friend that is a bartender in Beverly Hills and another friend is a bartender in Hollywood they say lots of customers that come in have marital problems so I told them they should make a drink called marriage on the rocks. Anyone out there that likes to go to their favorite watering hole keep an eye out for The drink marriage on the rocks I believe it’s going to be successful at least in United States because The divorce rate is about 85%. There is a drink called the zombie I don’t know if it’s still around but that’s the drink individuals would order when they want it to block their problems out
It's too explicit to be ordered. Maybe "a Ken on the Rocks" might work. ....from Ireland.
Try a "night crawler" or a three musketeers, or a train wreck! All will kick you in the ass!
Or just (on the rocks) 😆
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@@MichaelHarrisIreland I'm not a drinker and even I have heard of "sex on the beach". So in the US I think nothing is too explicit.
The background cheery music is so annoying, this is a murder case man, somebody died, why inject such thing?
Ya I can’t sleep either. But I don’t get up and shot my wife or husband. Even though I might in my dreams maybe?
Naked and afraid ?
The forensic examiner in the second case is now disgraced and was fired in 2001 for miss handling evidence.
But, but, but wait✋️ the first gun look longer👀
well thanks for telling criminals that 'cold water' is the best way to remove blood evidence, geesh. I swear these kinda shows reveal too much no wonder so many get away with murder. You give them all the tips on how not to get caught ffs
Oh, like they can't get that on the back of a detergent bottle or a million websites
The hunter became the hunted..🤷