Game of Thrones: Season 8 The Long Night: How to destroy a series in one episode

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • A rushed but passionate rant
    DESECRATION - The act of depriving something of its sacred character, or the disrespectful, contemptuous, or destructive treatment of that which is held to be sacred or holy by a group or individual.
    Sounds about right. Not the standard of editing quality i have planned for the future but had to get this off my chest :(
    EDIT- 3 giants -_-
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  • @adc1222
    @adc1222 Рік тому +111

    Few things annoy me more than people who say "you're only mad about Arya killing the night king because it wasn't the ending you expected." Yeah I didn't expect it because it came out of fucking nowhere. Arya found out the night king existed like 2 episodes earlier, but Jon's entire story revolved around the night king since season 1. No one would have expected it if aliens showed up and nuked kings landing, but that wouldn't have made it a good ending

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  Рік тому +24

      Id prefer Jon and Theon fighting the night king for house stark. No music no bullshit just agritty fight that ends up with theon sacrificing himself to set up jon with the killing blow. BUTTT ill take some fucking aliens nuking the shit out of the castle of the shite that we got

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Рік тому +1

      @@jedibrooks7235 like med stark fighting at the tower of Joy! Amazing idea!

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Рік тому +5

      Red Wedding is a pinnacle of subverting expectations moment.
      But the clues were everywhere and Robb Stark had a bitter history with House Frey ever since season 1.
      Arya killing the Night King, on the other hand, has no set up what so ever.

    • @seanfoltz7645
      @seanfoltz7645 Рік тому +3

      This was when the whole "girl power" thing was just starting so what we saw with that was a beta test.

    • @berengustav7714
      @berengustav7714 Рік тому +7

      If the unexpected is good,then the Spanish Inquisition should have come up.

  • @Tarquin2718
    @Tarquin2718 Рік тому +1

    Thank you sir. Maybe did it to come in good graces with KK the horrible?

  • @mungflesh199
    @mungflesh199 Рік тому +6

    Seeing this episode was reminiscent of seeing The Phantom Menace 25 years ago. It was, like, "huh? Did I just see an episode of GOT ... which was really bad?!"

  • @gammaraider
    @gammaraider 2 роки тому +170

    "Jorah Mormont, of House Friendzone" had me in stitches

    • @michalkralcak7200
      @michalkralcak7200 Рік тому +1

      thank you a lot for this comment so i could just wait for this line and enjoy it properly

    • @chrisc7110
      @chrisc7110 Рік тому

      Damn, that's exactly what i was gonna say lol

    • @dougsmith6262
      @dougsmith6262 Рік тому +1

      Bro that had me chuckling.

    • @sheikhzaman
      @sheikhzaman Рік тому +1

      Im f**king dying

    • @ayiza8511
      @ayiza8511 Рік тому +1

      I know right 😂

  • @MaimutaEvoluata
    @MaimutaEvoluata Рік тому +98

    I never get tired of hearing people criticizing this episode. I mean this show was on a downwards spiral for 3 seasons, let's not kid ourselves, but this one plotline, this one major plotline that is what ties the entire story together be so poorly executed is criminal. Layers on top of layers of dumb decisions.
    Thank you for your rant!

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  Рік тому +17

      They destroyed the core meaning of the show and deleted all the supernatural elements in one episode. Its a tragedy of lazy writing

    • @caseyhart4999
      @caseyhart4999 Рік тому +7

      I love hearing people talk about how “the show was never about the white walkers it was always about the political maneuvering and the game of thrones” lol then why even include the white walkers in the story in the first place? Much less placing them in the fucking opening scene of the entire show.

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 Рік тому +2

      @@caseyhart4999 this is actually crazy. Cus White walkers are the whole reason Jon is important to the story he's the only known leader in Westeros who's faced fought and escaped them but they turned him into a dumb dumb for this episode where as he was the commander for the defence of the wall against the brutal Thenns.

    • @caseyhart4999
      @caseyhart4999 Рік тому +3

      @@shadow_realm47 yup. The moment Arya killed the night king….idk if I ever felt that empty before or since. That was the moment I knew there was no saving the show.

  • @Goldenlevel555
    @Goldenlevel555 2 роки тому +73

    This dudes videos are underrated

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  Рік тому +8

      Never imagined this would be my first video. I wrote made this in 3 days after the long night broke my heart ty for the support

    • @FlpSideOfSanity
      @FlpSideOfSanity 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jedibrooks7235the long night broke a lot of hearts man....me too...me too

  • @thomashazlewood4658
    @thomashazlewood4658 2 роки тому +47

    Well, I stopped watching after season 5, when they started creating episodes without the author. The good news is that the two directors still have not found employment since they butchered this great series.

    • @praetorian3902
      @praetorian3902 Рік тому +3

      Yeah but they're probably rich as fuck. They don't have to work to survive anymore.

    • @seanfoltz7645
      @seanfoltz7645 Рік тому +1

      @@praetorian3902 Jeremy Podeswa's net worth is only around $1 million and while that sounds like a lot, recall that net worth isn't cash in the bank, instead, it's the value of all of your stuff, meaning that he probably just has one overpriced home in Kalifornia and not too much else going for himself.

    • @praetorian3902
      @praetorian3902 Рік тому +3

      @@seanfoltz7645 I was talking about Dumb & Dumber. But if I was talking about Jeremy then I would have guessed the same thing you wrote.

  • @onogrirwin
    @onogrirwin Рік тому +13

    This destruction of IP should have gotten them sued to the point of homelessness. They literally set piles and piles of investor's cash on fire.

  • @BruceCinema1337
    @BruceCinema1337 Рік тому +29

    So glad I randomly stumbled upon your channel! Keep up the fantastic work

  • @eddiebanks3583
    @eddiebanks3583 Рік тому +25

    Honestly I thought Cersi should have either been dealt with before this episode or a separate group go after kings landing and finish them

  • @robchuk4136
    @robchuk4136 Рік тому +10

    'I thought Jon and Robb were the same guy until season 2' is friggin hilarious 😆

  • @alimfuzzy
    @alimfuzzy Рік тому +10

    "How do you forget a giant"... while he forgets there are THREE giants on screen. 😂😂😂

  • @LINKchris87
    @LINKchris87 2 роки тому +24

    Beric becomes a beric-ade
    I lost it there 🤣🤣

  • @benghiskahn3673
    @benghiskahn3673 Рік тому +10

    Bro, the wheels had already started to fall off in season 5 and 6. 7 was a massive skid. 8 was a total car crash.

  • @jacktaryon388
    @jacktaryon388 Рік тому +6

    Looking back, the end of this video is both funny and sad..."You have three episodes to fi this you better not f this up!"....well...we know how that turned out don't we?

  • @cassandrachurchill7336
    @cassandrachurchill7336 5 років тому +10

    Highly agree!! I kept waiting for more... Super disappointing...

  • @handsolo1076
    @handsolo1076 Рік тому +10

    There's nothing more virile or truer than fanboy rage. I watched this episode in a bar & everyone screamed & cheered when Arya dispatched The Night King. I was like "what the fuck?!"

    • @seanfoltz7645
      @seanfoltz7645 Рік тому +4

      Was it a kewl visual? Yes - but then you think it over later and realize that Snow's entire character arc was just stolen from him due to some idiot wanting to do a girl power moment with a Mary Sue.

    • @handsolo1076
      @handsolo1076 Рік тому

      @@seanfoltz7645 Hells yeah bro! I love Arya. But It wasn't her scene. So many inconsistencies! Suspension of disbelief has it's limits!

    • @CEWIII9873
      @CEWIII9873 9 місяців тому

      did this confirm your suspicion that most people are nothing more than idi0t sheep?

    • @ninshu412
      @ninshu412 8 місяців тому

      @@seanfoltz7645 Exactly lol. Most people who liked it did a season 1-7 speedrun and only focused on the shocking moments rather than the small and subtle things that actually tell you a lot. For example, if you pay attention in season 2 and 3, you can pick up on the Red Wedding before it happens. Jon being the one to end the long night was pretty obvious, but that was his story. Arya killing the Frey's was too. That was her story. When I saw Walder Frey back in the Twins, I knew Arya was going to kill him. Yet everyone cheered for that. Them winning was pretty obvious as well when you have 3 episodes left in a 6 episode season, but nobody talks about these things being obvious, just Jon vs the NK lol. If they really wanted to subvert expectations, they should have had the Long Night be the last episode and killed everybody. We all knew it wouldn't happen that way, yet we all ruled it out lol.

    • @Original-Phantom
      @Original-Phantom 8 місяців тому +1

      Arya in the last season is not Arya

  • @benjamintherogue2421
    @benjamintherogue2421 Рік тому +11

    I saw this coming since Season 5 and I never even read the books. It might be just because my friend made me binge watch Seasons 1-7 with her over the course of a couple of months. That let me see the problems at lot more easily as I could see the drop in quality of the characters happen fast enough to notice.

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  Рік тому +4

      Then you had it easier than me. my bias ignored most of the issues from 5 to 7 but season 8 just broke me

    • @benjamintherogue2421
      @benjamintherogue2421 Рік тому

      @@jedibrooks7235 That seems to be what got most people through it until season 8.

    • @CEWIII9873
      @CEWIII9873 9 місяців тому

      Did you recreate any of the spicy scenes with your...uh..."friend?"
      If so, where is it on the 'Hub?

  • @terrencew.pringle1065
    @terrencew.pringle1065 Рік тому +9

    Dan and Dave deserve a special place in hell for GOT, ending it the way they did. Shame!

  • @j.robertson5516
    @j.robertson5516 5 років тому +17

    Good God man, you don't miss a detail!

  • @cryonish
    @cryonish Рік тому +7

    Good channel, you deserve more views.

  • @glorygloryholeallelujah
    @glorygloryholeallelujah Рік тому +2

    I’m from the future.
    They didn’t fix it.
    😂

  • @dillen_____
    @dillen_____ Рік тому +3

    Winter came and went 🤣 most painful sh*t of 2019 cant believe i waited 2 yrs to get my heart broken

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 Рік тому +2

    GRRM wanted his anti Lord of the Rings, but by making John Snow a special character, he ended up writing another high fantasy chosen one story, complete with the expectation that Jon WILL defeat the White Walkers and save Westeros, then unite Westeros... which GRRM can't write unless he wants to betray his story's intent and his own twisted principles.
    But if GRRM DOESN'T write the proper chosen one conclusion, then the fanbase will be crushed and he'll lose all credit as an author.
    So he'll likely never finish A Song of Ice and Fire.

  • @othosos
    @othosos Рік тому +5

    Spoiler: They fooked it up

  • @FHT1883
    @FHT1883 Рік тому +4

    idk I already thought the "Beyond The Wall" Episode was the "jumping the shark" moment of the series

    • @FHT1883
      @FHT1883 Рік тому +1

      S8 was way worse of course

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  Рік тому +2

      Its was cringe but not show breaking. The long night killed the entire themeatic point of the show

  • @jpdominator
    @jpdominator Рік тому +2

    I wish I knew you existed when you posted this. Season 8 broke my will, my heart, and my mind. What a disappointment. My imagination came up with a better ending.

  • @alfredborden5675
    @alfredborden5675 Рік тому +3

    The dragon glass on wall was useless cause they just forgot about it. Having Jon take a love ride on a dragon while the end of the world was near was dumb. Bran literally being useless was dumb.
    D&D making Sir Sea the last villain was so lame. Game of Thrones could have went down in history if they actually had the night king win ....decimate the entirety of Westoros, and end the show with him freezing the ocean on his way to Essos.

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  Рік тому +4

      ITs crazy to think the night king just killing everyone would have been a better ending

    • @alfredborden5675
      @alfredborden5675 Рік тому +1

      @@jedibrooks7235 Think about it. He decimates the entire continent... and when he decimates King's Landing... the throne is just something within his peripherial view that he could care less about. Then he starts freezing the ocean to go to Esos.

  • @cyberpunkdarren
    @cyberpunkdarren Рік тому +3

    Worst writing travesty in tv history

  • @Natalia-ty8qq
    @Natalia-ty8qq Рік тому +4

    Just found this channel and I feel blessed by this review, 'From the house of friendzone' that was amazing. Thank you

  • @amanrohatgi441
    @amanrohatgi441 Рік тому +4

    they did indeed fuck it up

  • @jeremythevirushuang6303
    @jeremythevirushuang6303 Рік тому +3

    Wow. The 15 mins of rant is exactly how I felt from the very beginning. Why did Dothraki army rushed into complete darkness without any real F’ing plan!

    • @majorhumbert676
      @majorhumbert676 Рік тому +1

      The point of a cavalry charge is to break the enemy's morale. But they have depicted the army of the dead as an army of soldiers that won't flee. Thus, a cavalry charge is useless.
      Besides, the way the cavalry charge is conducted, I'd expect the knights to carry lances, but I've only ever seen dothraki use swords as melee weapons.

    • @CEWIII9873
      @CEWIII9873 9 місяців тому

      @@majorhumbert676 true, but there are limitations to a calvary charge.
      The best method is against the flanks and weaker ground forces or retreating/moving opponents.
      Otherwise, a direct charge against rabble can be effective, but anything more organized (like spearmen) could be disastorous...

  • @todisagreeitsokay1837
    @todisagreeitsokay1837 7 місяців тому +1

    they didn'T fix it in the remaining 3 episodes... btw... please do a video on the rest of the episodes! :D

  • @fatalshore5068
    @fatalshore5068 Рік тому +2

    They should of lost the battle of WF. Refugees and a few surviving chars make it to kings landing to beg Cersei for succour the walkers inexorably moving south, killing towns and millions on their way. Oh baby! The possibilities!

  • @psyclonis5150
    @psyclonis5150 Рік тому +2

    I'm so glad I'm not the only one who believes this very same thing. Thank you my man. Definitely agree 💯%

  • @satrmleo
    @satrmleo Рік тому +3

    5:15 Three giants.

  • @yussufelmassady4259
    @yussufelmassady4259 Рік тому +2

    the fact that they made it worse in the last 3 episodes make this rant hit even harder XD

  • @manonthewall10
    @manonthewall10 4 місяці тому +1

    😂damn bro
    Spitting solid facts

  • @RicardoZambrana
    @RicardoZambrana 9 місяців тому

    Please... I beg you. Do OZARK. You have absolutely no idea the amount of stupid decisions that EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER makes in the last 2 seasons that build the most annoying, stupidest, insanely unnecessary plot moments from a loved TV series in history. This wouldn't be important if OZARK wasn't such a loved show. It starts SO AWESOME but I still can't seem to understand why so many people (including Emmy voters) are so into it. If you get to the finale, you won't believe the amount of stupid shit people do and the consequences of their unnecessary and unexplained stupidity. And no, narratively, they're supposed to be ALL SMART.
    Please, watch the series and do it.

  • @joshuadepaz6659
    @joshuadepaz6659 Рік тому +1

    one thing i will say though is YES ned said 500 men could hold winterfell but then again he never knew the white walkers were in the 100,000's and had giants AND swarmed over people like that, they dont fight like humans they SWARM

  • @Dan-no5fc
    @Dan-no5fc Рік тому +2

    daaamn, that's some superb quality ranting , and it's completely justified, loving it! came here for the rings of power videos (which are utterly brilliant btw!), now I like, comment and subsribe and am looking forward to more of your good stuff! personally, I'd love to see more about how stupidly rings of power is written :D

  • @vatoloco1528
    @vatoloco1528 Рік тому +1

    It's funny watching this is retrospect. Knowing how the rest of the season turned out. 😆

  • @Sun.Shine-
    @Sun.Shine- Рік тому +5

    I'm three years late, and i'm not a game of thrones fan but knew major plot points. Somehow, i ended up here and i love the hate that season 8 endured from fans all around, It's hilarious 😁. Daenerys being a mad queen, pointless end of Cersei (that should've been epic, i hate her), Jon stabbing her and finally leave the main screen, Bran being king, yeah sounds crap to me.
    Enjoyed your rage rant 👏👏👏

  • @OsloTime
    @OsloTime 9 місяців тому

    I just watched the Jurassic World Dominion video and was cracking up!! 👏
    2:33 Exactly!! SAM WOULD'VE FOUGHT!! Ughh... 😢
    4:00 😂😂 He's watching from his VIP dragon seat and eating popcorn!
    🤦‍♀️ The characters didn't have any common sense left by season 8. Sweet Jesus!!
    8:39 I CAN'T watch! 🙈 She basically did the equivalent of driving a convertible car into a crowd of zombies! Jorah saving her randomly, omg, too funny!

  • @paulshri8609
    @paulshri8609 3 місяці тому

    Right up till Season Seven, I thought a great ending was coming...God...still binge occasionally, but stop at Season Seven. I can't...just can't 😢😢

  • @jedimmj11
    @jedimmj11 Рік тому +3

    5:16 Three giants, one in back right

    • @matthewgo99
      @matthewgo99 Рік тому +1

      Just realized it’s not impossible to say they were killed by Dothraki but most likely and I mean 99% chance they just didn’t even realize

  • @amandarandombage2553
    @amandarandombage2553 3 місяці тому

    I come back to watch this video everytime hollywood fucks up these days - which is very often. This was the beginning for me. Western entertainment has just gone downhill

  • @kelthuzad6507
    @kelthuzad6507 Рік тому +1

    ~ It really was such a TRUE DISGRACE!! ~

  • @MummysBraveBoy
    @MummysBraveBoy 8 місяців тому

    The Ironborn guarding Bran never made sense to me. Like you said, the best archers in the World. Put them (and as many others as you can) on the walls firing flaming arrows constantly, in addition to the trebuchets. I mean just keep firing until they no longer can. My trebuchets, but the way, would be stationed inside the walls. The fact anyone should even have to suggest that is unbelievable.
    So, with the Ironborn on the wall, who guards Bran? If only they had access to and could use a small unit with the only objective being protect Bran, from army created, bred, trained and have an extremely famous and huge reputation for having the ability to very successfully hold back 1000s of soldiers regardless of being massively outnumbered. If only. You can still keep Theon there, but give him a sword and let him fight and kill a White Walker or three. Have it be him defending Bran with absolutely everything he has, which is why he was actually able to kill White Walkers. Full Wolverine rage mode. He can do that until he has literally nothing left or simply becomes overrun by the sheer numbers of the dead soldiers. He has his redemption, a moment to die both fighting like a true badass warrior, but also in a way that makes sense. He was raised and died in Winterfell, but he died an Iron death.

  • @amandarandombage2553
    @amandarandombage2553 Рік тому +3

    And then they did

  • @Evil0tto
    @Evil0tto 4 місяці тому

    "You better not fuck this up!"
    Narrator: "They fucked it up."

  • @Gokou3036
    @Gokou3036 11 місяців тому

    You should light your UA-cam videos better, it’s impossible to see what’s happening! /s

  • @seanfoltz7645
    @seanfoltz7645 Рік тому +1

    "You better not F this up further" - ROTFLMAO - weren't you in for a nasty surprise when you saw the final episode?
    Sadly, the problem was Martin - the fat slob was too lazy to bother keeping up with the books so all of the plans he had for the last season or two were never put in place and instead, it was written by writers whom I'm betting had never read the books and might not even have watched the entire series, never mind have the talent to actually finish off something as epic and complicated as this.
    So that's what we got - a disjointed mess which ignored seven seasons of carefully crafted plot and character development and instead, decided to just Michael Bay and girl power it.
    Side note on the king of the white walkers impaling the guy with no willie with a stick - in light of the fact that a hurricane can literally drive straws into cinderblocks, it is reasonable to say that with sufficient strength and force, he could blow through that armor. This doesn't excuse the countless other failures, but seeing as how there are so many of them, no point in sweating over something that can be excused at least.

  • @KnightsTable
    @KnightsTable 8 місяців тому

    what they did to Jon Snow is criminal..completely evil..someone needs to burn in hell for that.

  • @Karadjanov
    @Karadjanov Рік тому +2

    Wow I cannot believe how contain this video is. Considering Game of Thrones became utter garbage after season 4 and somehow managed to get progressively worse after each season I am surprised why you chose this episode to call them out.
    P.S. I really like your channel but I am actually disappointed you liked the Liyana Mormont scene.. and had anything good to say about the episode or the show in general after season 4.

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  Рік тому +4

      Its episode that killed the entire point of the franchise. The liyana mormont scene was cool on first watch but aged like piss makes no sense. But to say theres nothing to like after season 4 is nonsense there was still many pay offs to hope for. This episode killed any investment i had left

    • @Karadjanov
      @Karadjanov Рік тому

      @@jedibrooks7235 The were some isolated pay offs here and there perhaps but nothing to the level from seasons 1-4. Starting season 5 the approach became childish and lazy devoted from all logic that made it great in the first place. The characters started acting irrationally to what was established earlier. The few payoffs you mention are with no setup at all and are just for the fans ( like the idiocy of making John king in the north ) . It was a childish fan service approach forsaking the realistic spirit of the show. For god's sake Rob agreed to a marriage just to cross a bridge and by season 6 entire armies teleport across the continent and the characters were no longer grey and complex but shallow and 1 dimensional. It was RITERALY "The Alliance of Good" vs "The Alliance of Evil". Arya that started of as my and many others favorite character became a more disgusting and psychopathic character than Jofrey and Samsey combined. More intelligent viewers who appreciate quality noticed the drastic drop in quality in season 5 onwards while the normies continued to enjoy it till season 8. I just thought you were the former but perhaps I was mistaken.

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  Рік тому +1

      @@Karadjanov The quality fell off a cliff in episode ten of season 4 and continued into 5 and onward. BUt my love for the characters kept me invested and ive learned alot since then. You point about rob is so spot on lol wtf happen to this show

    • @Karadjanov
      @Karadjanov Рік тому

      @@jedibrooks7235 I am glad that you managed to get some enjoyment out of the show beyond season 4. I was also invested to a point but after season 6 I was hate watching it till the end :D. You mention that the show took a dive after 4x10 I would say it took a dive when it decided to manufacture that rape scene with Jamie after he had started becoming a better person.

  • @augustwyllt2421
    @augustwyllt2421 11 місяців тому +2

    Gods this rant was so cathartic. Thank you.

  • @KrokPanther
    @KrokPanther Рік тому

    I'd argue the show was dead long before this episode, but this still stands as one of the worst episodes of TV ever.

  • @mjs0686
    @mjs0686 3 місяці тому

    Spoiler: They did, indeed, fuck this up.

  • @beefdawgamadeus
    @beefdawgamadeus Рік тому

    This is good passion

  • @lividlarry1026
    @lividlarry1026 Рік тому

    It’s so sad to see how much they butchered the characters and their development. Every couple of months I get recommended some clips or videos about GoT and I think to myself “Gods, was the show good back then.” And it’s just depressing how easy it is to spot the mistakes and inconsistencies, so why didn’t they? As the show runners they should’ve known their material the best.
    Just while watching this I had some ideas that I think would’ve worked better (although I came up with them so obviously I do). What if the Night King didn’t want to kill Bran, but turn him into one of them, you know, since he’s a powerful Warg and keeper of all the knowledge of the world. That would explain why he hunted him the entire time, and would fit with the theme of people always trying to get Bran to further their personal agenda (Theon during his sacking of Winterfell, Bloodraven calling for him, Sansa and Jon wanting to reinstate him as the rightful heir). And then Theon, lying in a puddle of blood on the ground could throw his spear to kill Bran to prevent them from turning him. This would reference the time he pretended to have killed Bran and the other Stark kid, while also adding tragedy to his character - He first fought for the Starks and protected them as a ward, he then turned against them to make his father proud, but later returned to their side to protect Sansa and Bran, his real family. Now he had to kill one of them to save the world. And this would also add weight to Bran forgiving him. One could think that it was him forgiving all his past misdeeds, but it could also mean Bran forgiving him for what he was about to do.
    This was just quickly typed down at 5am while tired, but it feels like it was a bit more consistent to their characters and to what was established before. Instead we got people rewriting years of plans because “it just didn’t feel right”

  • @Leuber
    @Leuber Рік тому

    I mean yes, we can all agree S8E3 sucked - but my favorite response is always, why point to this specific moment whilst mentioning or at least implying 7 seasons and 2 episodes of a good show, when the cracks began to show from S5 onwards and were not much smaller than this by the time of S7? And this is specifically relating to a show respecting the rules it sets itself, as was mentioned. You know, like traveling takes time, it’s not teleporting like so many instances in S7. Or actions have consequences, unlike the plethora of mistakes from Jon and Sansa resulting in victory in BotB.

    • @JoshuaKevinPerry
      @JoshuaKevinPerry Рік тому

      S4 and 5 cracks started to appear as they rushed or ignored the books.

  • @TheJStocco
    @TheJStocco 7 місяців тому

    To be fair, Melisandre was useless in the books as well.

  • @m.wagner7008
    @m.wagner7008 8 місяців тому

    Oh my gosh, i was furious too, that war was ridicilous

  • @frankthetank8050
    @frankthetank8050 Рік тому

    Dude you’re super hilarious! 😂😂

  • @Repeatedlyreminded
    @Repeatedlyreminded Рік тому

    This didn't age well haha...

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 Рік тому

    Bad writing, all of it!

  • @jojo3000terrax
    @jojo3000terrax Рік тому +1

    It is funny how everyone complains about Jon scream at a Dagon. The guy is about to die, at least that´s what he thinks. So maybe he just does the only thing he was able to do in this moment.

  • @Marissa_J
    @Marissa_J Рік тому

    This video is underrated

    • @Marissa_J
      @Marissa_J Рік тому

      I also thought Jon and Rob were the same person until the second season. Had to rewatch season 1 when I realized it

  • @pacman9669
    @pacman9669 2 роки тому +5

    You missed the foreshadow from when john gave aria her sword to stab with the pointy end . He foreshadowed aria killing him when he told her that

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  2 роки тому +15

      "Stickem with the pointy end" a sweet line between siblings ..not forshadowing. As arya had no association with the nightkng or white walker story line. Had never even seen a walker before and had her own arc....that got derailed when the writer decided to ignore jer revenge quest and turn her right back into family arya over knight and gave her he biggest pay off in the show leaving jon with nothing even though they forshadowed his showdown with the nightking twice ( hardhome, beyond the wall)
      Arya stabbing the night king destroyed the core meaning of tgis shoq and rendered the plot as well as jons arc pointlesss.
      You completly wrong Arya was used and jon was ruined

  • @glehal83
    @glehal83 10 місяців тому

    Amazing episode. Fu too

    • @jedibrooks7235
      @jedibrooks7235  10 місяців тому

      What was amazing about the writing?

  • @dermboss402
    @dermboss402 Рік тому +5

    Just 1 thing. I agree with almost everything BUT... the show was largely about subverting expectations a lot of the time. So building up this for seasons only for it to end with Arya shankin him from nowhere, that does make sense from that perspective. That said though, execution of it was terrible. Like.... I 100% agree with everything. Why not put braziers on the battlefield so you can see them coming? Why not give all the Dothraki bows and dragonglass arrows so they can just send volley after volley into them. Why not let us see whats going on? And so on, and so on. But Arya kill stealing? Im alright with that. What im not alright with was the show making it seem like it was some kind of payoff, or significant or .... good, even

    • @cddg1576
      @cddg1576 Рік тому +2

      There is defying expectations while sticking to the set up and payoff that every good story should follow, and there is throwing away five seasons of build up

    • @dermboss402
      @dermboss402 Рік тому +1

      @@cddg1576 Totally. Like they messed it up royally.. Even the non battle things. Like from what i gather about Cersei(havnt read the books) she thinks she is smart, but then everything she does backfires pretty badly. In the series season 6,7,8 she this hitherto unheard of hyper competence. On the flipside Tyrion is wrong almost every time from season 5 onwards.

  • @tomwatson1116
    @tomwatson1116 Рік тому +1

    I think you were biased and unfair in this one. Some moments had their credit in a way which might not have created the version of events that we wanted but did have value. Theon being a selfish coward the whole show suddenly sacrificing himself to save Bran someone who he had betrayed the most. Beric also sacrificing himself to save Arya so she can kill the NK. Regardless of whether we wanted this it builds to that moment. Then the red witch doesn't resurrect him because his duty is over and he can finally be allowed to die. That made total sense and I'm surprised you didn't think so.

    • @CactusCowboyDan
      @CactusCowboyDan Рік тому +4

      You know what’s really unfair?
      HBO hyping up a TV series for 10 years only to deliver a complete messy ending that destroys whatever love the fans had for the series to begin with.

    • @tomwatson1116
      @tomwatson1116 Рік тому +1

      @@CactusCowboyDan Never said it wasn't a total train wreck, which it obviously was, and I hope he releases the leftover books so we get that rectified somewhat.
      I was just countering a few points he made in the video