This is the states fault....they should not charge you money to recycle old tires!...they already charge you a recycling fee when you buy new tire then they want you pay a fee to recycle old tires! Change the damn law to free recycling like like it is with old batteries/used motor oil/cans and plastics and bottles.
That doesn't give anyone the right to illegally dump. With your asinine logic, you'd rob someone who has a job and earns when you don't? Blame the world who doesn't hire you? It's not the state's fault. You still have the option of paying $2.00 a tire. Pay it and stop bitching.
Well,Jesus, you are right but still missing one point. Back in 1976 before Recycling was given to Waste Management, I used to work for a recycling company. We would actually pay you for items. Once the laws changed, YOU must pay to have things recycled.
Well that ground up mulch has led to major lawsuits. Back in 1976 when I worked for a recycling company, we would pay you for such items. Once recycling was taken over by the Mafia, then you must wash out your recyclables, a pay to have them recycled, thanks to your asinine logic.
with a couple of good shredders, they could have had them shred in a couple days,, i have been recycling tires for 25 years and thats just not as bad as they make it seem
whether right or not right he is still a good man for following through and cleaning up the mess and props to the public land guy for doing what his city wanted
Solkre You're not getting the point... they shred tires paint the shreds different colors and put them in childrens play grounds. How is a tire out in the middle of nowhere more likely to catch on fire then at a playground?
You could argue that the shredded tires are more likely to catch fire because their increased surface area makes them more prone to burn, and more quickly too.
Those tires could have been shreded into fine powder and sold in five gallon buckets ,my dad would buy them off some place in the 90's to mix with liquid latex to make rubber molds for cement pots and fountains,...
RUBBER.. leaching into the ground? LOL? How exactly does rubber leech into the ground? Do you go outside to your car and, darn the luck, the tire has melted onto the road and is now in the sewer? I've been at multiple car salvage yards with 20,30,40 year old cars with tires still on them. They do not 'leech" into the ground. It would sit there till damned near eternity with nothing going on but sun cracking.
A businessman where I lived tried grounding them up and making mulch out of them for your yard and garden and painting it but it never took off it worked for many years and then it just faded out
Use 'em for TDF - Tire-Derived Fuel! Shredded tires are burned in cement kilns, which take enormous amounts of energy to make portland cement. When you buy a bag of Quickcrete, that's basically what you're paying for - that and transportation.
There is a process that repurposes used tires . It is shredded and mixed into asphalt . The enhanced asphalt is far more resistant to potholes and reduces road noise . It is also more durable . There is no reason why old tires should be piling up in landfills .
But where’s they go? Another hiding spot? How many critters liver in there, I bet rattlesnake junction. This is just one area imagine others states, other countries.
That's exactly what happend! Another hiding spot about 50 miles west of the location they where cleaned up from. I searched on maps looking up current results and found them still bailed and dumped elsewhere.
20 years ago, we tried to use them in asphalt mix for roadways. We also tried to cable them together and drop them off the coast as an artificial barrier reef. Back in Michigan we tried to get a special incinerator for the millions of blems we had at Goodyear tire
that actually did look like an erosion control project after they pulled the tires out. a huge waste of time effort and money to have more useless land that just ships the tires off to someone elses landfill
We tried it and it was nixed because over time it leeches into the gutters and into the wetlands and into the ocean and into your body. I was a State Highway Construction Inspector and we tried it around 1995. Just because of the events of cancer at several schools that used it for mulch says you don't want it in the roads. We came we saw, we kicked Arse!
The "relocation" effort cost more fossil fuels then 100,000 operating for 10 years. Thanks for that, now the sand wont suffer from rubber poisoning....
travsb1984, You're missing the point. No one has the right to dump anything on State Leased land for a profit especially for "Erosion Control" in the middle of a desert where there is no threat to anyone, anywhere.
Im not for sure but somebody told me here in south texas a few years ago a new company came and open the doors to everybody to disposal used tires for free. Their idea was to get free tires and then recycle it to make a proffit. Something happened, months later they didnt know what to do with that huge amount of tires and ended clossing the facility.
I've heard of people using old tires to build things out of it by stacking and packing it with dirt. Give it a layer of stucco and voila: Now you have something useful out of it, and the stucco will protect the rubber from further degradation and hold in the off-gassing.
I used to haul truckloads from the landfill near Kingman Arizona to Los Angeles. The whole tire disposal system is a scam. You have to pay a disposal fee, which is effectively paying the state to acquire them, then the state sells them.
I wonder if he had a plan drawn up for his erosion control, if he had, it should have been a simple thing to present and get thrown out of court. I find the idea intriguing and plausible.
Same thing in australia you pay a recycling fee to the tyre company for recycling them and they try giving them away to any one who will take them , and when they don't want them anymore they dump them
What a misleading title. It makes it sound like altruism instead of a dirt-bag getting caught attempting a dumping scheme. How many of those tires did the cattle eat? He was leased the land for grazing, not dumping.
That's exactly what happened. Looked up maps to see current results and found them about 50 miles west of that location. Still bailed up and left there.
Definitely looks like a erosion control to me especially considering the state demanded that he plant grass considering you plant grass to stop erosion
Shoemaker Avarcas Trotamillas is a relatively new company collaborates with a Spanish tire recycler Gomavial Solutions who supplies tire tread to the shoe manufacturer. Gomavial’s plant is in the north of Spain, in the outskirts of San Sebastian
I don’t see the problem, a dirt hole in the middle of nowhere. Just throw some dirt on top of the tires and the hole is filled in the tires are gone, everybody happy 😊
Domino52o, They are garbage, that's why. Dumping tires on leased PUBLIC LAND for a profit in the middle of a desert for supposedly erosion control where there's no threat to any homes is a load of shit.
I don't see it as an erosion control project,and I doubt many other Ranchers would either.Hopefully after the land recover's some real Rancher can lease it for actual livestock grazing.
An eyesore in the middle of nowhere not an environmental disaster. Where do you think the tires are going now? They'll get dumped somewhere else or turned into doormats to be used and thrown out again.
Considering its in a long thin line rather than a square/circle I could believe it is an erosion control project. You know... if there was some sort of order to it. I'd need some explaining why it's not.
My idea: 1. Use them to make 'Dry Stone wall', like wind breaks, in windswept and or cold areas. (Easter Island/St. Helena.) 2. Sea beach erosion. I'm sure the Penguins would like some.
Serious threat to the environment? That Sh*t is a wasteland... If anything hundreds of millions of critters used the tires as refuge, kind of like sinking a ship and creating a reef. Where shall I file murder charges relating to the destruction of their habitat.
Was it a tire dump or as he said, an erosion prevention attempt? So they take the $30,000 fine and he has to reseed, but you will still have a huge trench.
Why no mention of a contract for an erosion control project? What if the man that dumped the tires there had worked with a previous Commissioner to do just that. After a quick google search, Powell did not serve as commissioner from 2002-2011. This means Daniels could have worked with the previous Commissioner, under government contract, to dispose of the tires in that location for an erosion control project. I'd wager that Daniels' was paid in the realm of $30k by the New Mexico Land Commission for land maintenance and the new commissioner didn't like the site and the fact that Daniels' was making money so easily on the government's dime.
For everyone who doesn't believe they were sent to a recycling center, old tires can literally be directly turned into new tires. You get paid big fat dollars for recycling that many tires. It's a lot more profitable than burying them or sticking them up your own ass.
Ray Powell you did nothing, that was cleaned up by the working man, not a politician. I don't see them going after any type of gas companies frackin in New Mexico. Where is Ray Powell now? Getting paid to leave them alone?
Disaster averted? What disaster? It was a bunch of tires in a hole. How would they destroy the planet, or anything? He moved them. They were not going anywhere, and if you didn't notice, it's not like that land was a lush paradise to begin with, or afterwards.
The Texas recycling center did what with them? Why aren't we told which center? Suspicion leads me to believe tat the outcome wasn't as beneficial to the environment, as a whole.
Now go after everybody that pollutes buy throwing plastic away, instead of recycling it, then it winds up in that huge, floating trash island in the Pacific Ocean. Fine them for the cleanup.
the probelem here is that there are no trees and bushes there is growing nearly nothing, so whats going to happen is that this will become a dessert because of erosion
This is the states fault....they should not charge you money to recycle old tires!...they already charge you a recycling fee when you buy new tire then they want you pay a fee to recycle old tires! Change the damn law to free recycling like like it is with old batteries/used motor oil/cans and plastics and bottles.
Jesus Faith agreed. I've seen a few of these type of stories. All recycling should be free.
That doesn't give anyone the right to illegally dump. With your asinine logic, you'd rob someone who has a job and earns when you don't? Blame the world who doesn't hire you? It's not the state's fault. You still have the option of paying $2.00 a tire. Pay it and stop bitching.
Why should it be free? Tires get ground up and make mulch from shredding machines that cost to maintain.
Well,Jesus, you are right but still missing one point. Back in 1976 before Recycling was given to Waste Management, I used to work for a recycling company. We would actually pay you for items.
Once the laws changed, YOU must pay to have things recycled.
Well that ground up mulch has led to major lawsuits.
Back in 1976 when I worked for a recycling company, we would pay you for such items.
Once recycling was taken over by the Mafia, then you must wash out your recyclables, a pay to have them recycled, thanks to your asinine logic.
Yeah, all the land around the tires looks REAL productive
with a couple of good shredders, they could have had them shred in a couple days,, i have been recycling tires for 25 years and thats just not as bad as they make it seem
I agree with you, but that is a hell of a lot of tires...i think the scale is off when seen from the air
I would have brought a shredder to the site. But maybe bailing is logistically easier. Not sure, but shredding on site I think would have been easier.
Agree 100%
i agree. the shreds could be used for sooooo many things.
So you end up with a giant pile of shredded tires; how is that better?
Dispose of your rubbers correctly. Do not leave them in a hole.
Where did all the tire GO? another new dump?
Had you watched and listened to the end they said it was shipped off to a tire recycling center....
-Paul Lee- you got told!!! Hahaha
Sure they did. Do you believe everything you are told?
He buried them for sure
Recycling plant in Texas.
So it wasnt a disaster it was just a bunch of tires in a hole
tbirdpimp07 put all that shit in your back yard.
It was a toxic fire hazard you fucking DoucheCanoe!
Dump a bunch of old tires in your property and you’ll see how hazardous it is
Look at all the the triggered people. And what gentle, considerate comments they leave...
The only hazard I agree with is the fire hazard
whether right or not right he is still a good man for following through and cleaning up the mess and props to the public land guy for doing what his city wanted
YAY! we got rid of all those tires! We finally cleared up a barren river bed. Lets celebrate guys, we got him.
Old, whole tire on the ground, OMG! POLLUTION, EARTH KILLER!
Shredded tire on the ground at a park, OMG! SUPER RECYCLING RAINBOWS!
It takes just one funny kid to put it on fire and poluting the local water and would also burn and create smoke for days or even weeks
It's the fire risk more than the rubber sitting there. Tire fires are horrible.
Solkre You're not getting the point... they shred tires paint the shreds different colors and put them in childrens play grounds. How is a tire out in the middle of nowhere more likely to catch on fire then at a playground?
You could argue that the shredded tires are more likely to catch fire because their increased surface area makes them more prone to burn, and more quickly too.
Would be interesting to test actually.
Those tires could have been shreded into fine powder and sold in five gallon buckets ,my dad would buy them off some place in the 90's to mix with liquid latex to make rubber molds for cement pots and fountains,...
It has metal parts its not only rubber... its harder to recycle,thats why they just trow it away
THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE!
I used to have a tire small shredder and the shreddings used to be mixed in with road material, but they stopped using the shreddings.
That $30,000 will only be wasted in helicopter fuel, that will also be pollution.
@Eddie C what if the tires are sheared? That will be worse than using them as a landfill.
What? No, they'll be shredded and repurposed.
Impossible !!! but if u think that .... I am sorry for u really I think people need to stop taking what someone just said and think it's the true...
RUBBER.. leaching into the ground? LOL?
How exactly does rubber leech into the ground? Do you go outside to your car and, darn the luck, the tire has melted onto the road and is now in the sewer?
I've been at multiple car salvage yards with 20,30,40 year old cars with tires still on them. They do not 'leech" into the ground. It would sit there till damned near eternity with nothing going on but sun cracking.
I just throw them into the neighbors creek.
"It's not a tire dump, it's an erosion control project"......good one !!!
2:34 they missed that tyre to the left
You're a Brit!! We don't put a likin to your kind round here! now git!!
wtf is a tyre????
It's a British thing that you keep in a boot
@@eastcoco8651 tyre tire same thing
IM TIRE'D... OF THESE ARGUMENTS. heheheheheh
They can use it to built good road and it save a lot of money
A businessman where I lived tried grounding them up and making mulch out of them for your yard and garden and painting it but it never took off it worked for many years and then it just faded out
Nothing like a tire fire! Omg...
Use 'em for TDF - Tire-Derived Fuel! Shredded tires are burned in cement kilns, which take enormous amounts of energy to make portland cement. When you buy a bag of Quickcrete, that's basically what you're paying for - that and transportation.
Finally, a good solution.
now the tires are underwater
There is a process that repurposes used tires . It is shredded and mixed into asphalt . The enhanced asphalt is far more resistant to potholes and reduces road noise . It is also more durable . There is no reason why old tires should be piling up in landfills .
So the man try’s to do something good, and people still find ways to hate on him. Damn.
But where’s they go? Another hiding spot? How many critters liver in there, I bet rattlesnake junction. This is just one area imagine others states, other countries.
That's exactly what happend! Another hiding spot about 50 miles west of the location they where cleaned up from. I searched on maps looking up current results and found them still bailed and dumped elsewhere.
Shredded tyres are used in any number of products, the problem is that shredding results in a net loss of approximately $1 per tyre.
Real question where did all those tires go?
So how many yards away did they actually put them
from Italy...What happened to the tires? what did they do?
20 years ago, we tried to use them in asphalt mix for roadways. We also tried to cable them together and drop them off the coast as an artificial barrier reef. Back in Michigan we tried to get a special incinerator for the millions of blems we had at Goodyear tire
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that actually did look like an erosion control project after they pulled the tires out. a huge waste of time effort and money to have more useless land that just ships the tires off to someone elses landfill
Actually he's right. You can't recycle tires. You need extra small.
Did you miss the part where they said they sent it to recycling plant in Texas yes they do recycle old tires
Sure, they recycle them right into the landfill.
@@Wardell43 even though tires cannot be recicle due to the chemical composition it can be used if shredded to pave streets
We tried it and it was nixed because over time it leeches into the gutters and into the wetlands and into the ocean and into your body. I was a State Highway Construction Inspector and we tried it around 1995. Just because of the events of cancer at several schools that used it for mulch says you don't want it in the roads.
We came we saw, we kicked Arse!
Thank you so much for your actions and doing what every person wished they could have helped. God Bless you for your swift action.
The "relocation" effort cost more fossil fuels then 100,000 operating for 10 years. Thanks for that, now the sand wont suffer from rubber poisoning....
*100.000 cars operating for 10 years.
travsb1984, You're missing the point. No one has the right to dump anything on State Leased land for a profit especially for "Erosion Control" in the middle of a desert where there is no threat to anyone, anywhere.
And what happened to the tires ?
Im not for sure but somebody told me here in south texas a few years ago a new company came and open the doors to everybody to disposal used tires for free. Their idea was to get free tires and then recycle it to make a proffit. Something happened, months later they didnt know what to do with that huge amount of tires and ended clossing the facility.
The state must’ve have gotten tired of looking at it
It's good that they freed all that dirt from the tyranny of those oppressive tyres.
I've heard of people using old tires to build things out of it by stacking and packing it with dirt. Give it a layer of stucco and voila: Now you have something useful out of it, and the stucco will protect the rubber from further degradation and hold in the off-gassing.
Yeah what you do with the tires I got a whole bunch like that I need to get rid of
Can't they shred the tires and use them for carpark surfacing ? or Something positive? or build walls with earth infil as retainers ?
I used to haul truckloads from the landfill near Kingman Arizona to Los Angeles. The whole tire disposal system is a scam. You have to pay a disposal fee, which is effectively paying the state to acquire them, then the state sells them.
they have it piled up and for transport to where? they'll dump it somewhere else so is that solving the 'problem'?
Looking at f mix (asphalt) will help.
Just imagine the amount of travel all those tires have seen :D
I'm disappointed, from the title I assumed a businessman had found a way to clean up tire dumps for a profit by recycling them in a novel way.
I wonder if he had a plan drawn up for his erosion control, if he had, it should have been a simple thing to present and get thrown out of court. I find the idea intriguing and plausible.
how did this guy acquire all these tires?
I charge $5 per single tire $30 for 4 and $550 per 1000 how many you got to get rid of?
Same thing in australia you pay a recycling fee to the tyre company for recycling them and they try giving them away to any one who will take them , and when they don't want them anymore they dump them
Where did he take them and dump them now?
What a misleading title. It makes it sound like altruism instead of a dirt-bag getting caught attempting a dumping scheme. How many of those tires did the cattle eat? He was leased the land for grazing, not dumping.
How does that man see?
What did the state do with the $30, 000
Okay but where did they go after that lmao 😂 probably another place similar if not worse.
That's exactly what happened. Looked up maps to see current results and found them about 50 miles west of that location. Still bailed up and left there.
Hell Yeah bobby cleanin up demons and tires since 2005
Business Man Forced to Clean up Land he Polluted. That's the proper title.
Definitely looks like a erosion control to me especially considering the state demanded that he plant grass considering you plant grass to stop erosion
It might have been unsightly, but it wasnt poisoning the water or air.
Shoemaker Avarcas Trotamillas is a relatively new company
collaborates with a Spanish tire recycler Gomavial Solutions who supplies tire tread to the shoe manufacturer. Gomavial’s plant is in the north of Spain, in the outskirts of San Sebastian
What recycling plant did they go to?
The Earth
Sell them to the state for use in building roads... I guy locally to me cleaned his dump from tires and made millions.
I don’t see the problem, a dirt hole in the middle of nowhere. Just throw some dirt on top of the tires and the hole is filled in the tires are gone, everybody happy 😊
Tires are a serious problem that we are all responsible for.
In what way are they a problem other than you don't like to look at them.
Domino52o, They are garbage, that's why. Dumping tires on leased PUBLIC LAND for a profit in the middle of a desert for supposedly erosion control where there's no threat to any homes is a load of shit.
Waste of tax payers time , leave that old man alone
Anyway for tires to be melt down and use for something else?
Not really. Maybe used to attack other countries some how. I hear the chemicals are hazardous. The rubber doesn't hold up at all either.
I don't see it as an erosion control project,and I doubt many other Ranchers would either.Hopefully after the land recover's some real Rancher can lease it for actual livestock grazing.
They should have used the tires to make tire walls
No that'll make the walls easy to climb over
An eyesore in the middle of nowhere not an environmental disaster. Where do you think the tires are going now? They'll get dumped somewhere else or turned into doormats to be used and thrown out again.
Considering its in a long thin line rather than a square/circle I could believe it is an erosion control project. You know... if there was some sort of order to it. I'd need some explaining why it's not.
Good on them. Tire fires are no joke. Some have lasted a decade!
My idea:
1. Use them to make 'Dry Stone wall', like wind breaks, in windswept and or cold areas. (Easter Island/St. Helena.)
2. Sea beach erosion.
I'm sure the Penguins would like some.
Thought the thumbnail was hordes of rams
Serious threat to the environment? That Sh*t is a wasteland... If anything hundreds of millions of critters used the tires as refuge, kind of like sinking a ship and creating a reef. Where shall I file murder charges relating to the destruction of their habitat.
Shred the tires to help build new roads.
where did all those tires even come from? did he charge to have companies dump them on the state trust land?
Was it a tire dump or as he said, an erosion prevention attempt? So they take the $30,000 fine and he has to reseed, but you will still have a huge trench.
and this is in america? lol land of the free???? this is why i hate the news
Correction business man pays someone to clean it up
million percent sure this dude was planning on covering them in dirt until these news dudes came along lol
Why no mention of a contract for an erosion control project? What if the man that dumped the tires there had worked with a previous Commissioner to do just that. After a quick google search, Powell did not serve as commissioner from 2002-2011. This means Daniels could have worked with the previous Commissioner, under government contract, to dispose of the tires in that location for an erosion control project. I'd wager that Daniels' was paid in the realm of $30k by the New Mexico Land Commission for land maintenance and the new commissioner didn't like the site and the fact that Daniels' was making money so easily on the government's dime.
Except he admitted to being paid to send the tires to the landfill, but left them there instead.
There was a pile like that near me, back in the 80s it caught fire, that thing burned forever.
They could have used to tires to help build the wall with.
So the erosion control has now been cancelled?
alot of earthship houses could of been made with those tires look up earthships
For everyone who doesn't believe they were sent to a recycling center, old tires can literally be directly turned into new tires. You get paid big fat dollars for recycling that many tires. It's a lot more profitable than burying them or sticking them up your own ass.
Now do a video on where the tires went, and what happened to them? Follow the trucks... to the ocean?
simspsons set their tires on fire
Ray Powell you did nothing, that was cleaned up by the working man, not a politician. I don't see them going after any type of gas companies frackin in New Mexico. Where is Ray Powell now? Getting paid to leave them alone?
epa takes money to let companies dump massive amoutns of waste into the ocean not apeep this guy makes a seamingless harmless wall of tires outrage
z lariviere20 Seemingly harmless to someone who doesn't know what they're talking about
it was a comparative statement...
Disaster averted? What disaster? It was a bunch of tires in a hole. How would they destroy the planet, or anything? He moved them. They were not going anywhere, and if you didn't notice, it's not like that land was a lush paradise to begin with, or afterwards.
@1:09 it wasn't pollution? No it was a wildlife habitat.
He said, "The tires help control the erosion, it an erosion project..." loooooool
The Texas recycling center did what with them? Why aren't we told which center? Suspicion leads me to believe tat the outcome wasn't as beneficial to the environment, as a whole.
they dump all the tires over here in Detroit!
Do the math on the tires he only had to pay 330.000 they charge 5 bucks he got paid atleast 2 for each tire do the math he still made money and won
Thought it looked better with the tires
Gaza be like, imagine burning all o those
Detroit has more tires than that all over the city!
Now go after everybody that pollutes buy throwing plastic away, instead of recycling it, then it winds up in that huge, floating trash island in the Pacific Ocean. Fine them for the cleanup.
I think its stupid they made him clean It up, It was in the middle of the desert I don’t think that river has had water in it in 10 years
the probelem here is that there are no trees and bushes there is growing nearly nothing, so whats going to happen is that this will become a dessert because of erosion
why weren't they just recycled in the 1st place?
They are just tires. What are they hurting? Nothing. People are an environomental disaster. Not tires.
Well done Captain Planet
Here in Philly we'll throw them anywhere. Maybe even right at City Hall's front stoop. Shouldn't be charging to collect trash we already pay our taxes