Listening to Iomadae going on about how the Commander has a mortal mind and is only pretending to be a divine entity, as if she were born divine .. It's barely been 100 years since her ascension at that point. I couldn't roll my eyes harder if I tried.
That's one of the weirdest issues with her cameo as a whole.Being afraid of the evil paths is one thing,but aeon and angel are LITERALLY the embodiment of "we are the good guys".It comes off like she's scared for nothing.
@@bearandthebull2372 i wouldnt call Aeon a good guy, its more like a machine that enforces laws only it could fully understand. Azata is much more approprite to be called a good guy, you are literally a hippy thats restores everything.
@@bearandthebull2372 an Aeon isn't good, if it needed to sacrifice a mountain of babies to restore order, it would. Order is more important than good and evil. Iomedae, being a deity of good, is butthurt about that.
Point of order, its been nearly 1000 years since she ascended to godhood, its only been 100 years since aroden "died" and she replaced him as the inheritor.
well shes not the only mortal who became a divine being so shes not happy abou not being that special anymore. you would think becoming a divine being would let you not be so petty but shes as bad as any mortal or demon lord
@@artje90 and yet she decides to stay out of it...a fucking butterfly put the fear of god on the demons when they decided to mess with the body of one of her followers and yet this "goddess" berates you about your pride when she does fuck all. And she's suppose the goddess of good and justice!?
@@phantomvulpe791 Ye at that point you feel like the paladins of iomade kill more other humans then actual demons. cause she aint pushing them to mess them demons up
Weird that Seelah is all "Iomedae has spoken, dummy!" unless you go Angel. Then she practically forgoes her faith to become a Paladin of the Commander.
Ember/seelah/aru support good paths. Regil/greybor support non-chaotic paths Soseil supports non-evil paths. Camelia supports non-lawful/good paths except lich. Daeren supports non -evil paths Wenduwag supports all paths. (All of this is excluding swarm) Finally. Lann consistently supports being yourself in all paths. Regils point on your companions friendship/support being fleeting holds true :)
In my opinion freedom demon is most fun path to play because story is great and i love to screw over all of them, except Worldwound's best mom and go for ascension ending with her
In a funny way, Iomedae is correct. The actions of the Aeon Commander (if they fully commit and dont go renegade) does resilt in the world they know to be replaced by a timeline where the worldwound doesnt exist. In the end, their world is destroyed and replaced by a better one.
If HIS pride will destroy him - but SHE stands by to do nothing (because she knows she actually can't without bringing half the pantheon down on her head for trying) AND acting in the vein of stripping MC's powers; which she can THEORETICALLY actually do, will by her own admission cause "more harm" to this world [Somehow, than destroying it outright would do? o.O] What does that say about her own ruffled feathers. Bent nose for pride's sake because she's had her hands all but tied against these demons for how long??? This is the reason the Crusade does not make sense. It is why the morale system is by written lore, massively stupid; the HoMM is stupid, kingdom management IS NOT KC's job! and the whole argument here is basically rendered as a means for the devs to insult the player no matter which path is taken. By this ONE character. As an argument for Atheism? Against it... search me. The demons had Drezen for over seventy years and the soldiers fought on. You take it in a month and a half at worst if you do everything and do any building of your base army at all... and one BS time limit (where they take away decent magic items if you don't want to lose morale) screws you over hard. Come. On. Owlcat! Just by gaining Drezen back with an effective anti teleporting shield you should NEVER have to worry about Morale again. Period. (I could understand it as an incentivizing method in order to push for re-taking Drezen when you don't control it, but it's still a "dick move" mechanically) Stick to the RPG and choose your own adventure aspect. That's where you're gold. Nobody likes the puzzles, or the minigames. We've all told you they're not good. The exhaustion/fatigue mechanic gets directly in the way of any notion we should explore or try for side questing at all. You guys REALLY need to think about this stuff. Before you implement it. Iomedae is NOT omnipotent as a God. You should with the Mythic Power at least have about a 1 in 10 chance - to a 1 in 50 chance realistically to literally kick her arse. If you're going to write characters to be assholes no matter what path is chosen, you're just berating the player at that point. For even having managed somehow to get that bloody far. I have tried to look up the Aeon Questline by the way, and I still can't find definitive answers as to what EXACTLY needs to be done to get anywhere other than talking to the mirror and saying the oath. Truly, I appreciate the role play, but what I would ask for is a full guide. For every actual mythic path. At least the difficult to complete ones. I did not have this problem trying out Azata for example. (Other than I like Monk, and screw whoever thought up the idea of let's restrict alignments for MYTHIC POWER. There are maybe 3 in the entire game; but it means that frankly, if you want to be a druid, a monk or a paladin you are buggered for playing most of the mytic options. That is NOT SMART) So many aspects of this game just peeve me right off. Because they're either completely antithecial to good tabletop role playing, or they straight up do not need to be there in the first place. * I already wrote on another post long ago if you recall exactly why I understand that Iomedae is a bitch to KC. It doesn't make such smart writing, if you consider the point a lot of players will take not having at least ONE "right" answer a little personally. (They could also have helped players out by - as with alignments - labeling WHICH conversation choices with each romanceable character will actualize the romance. Or screw it over. It's not really that hard to give the player a hand - and frankly even in RL some people have difficulty with social structure. There's A LOT of responses that seem like they should be okay, and they just aren't if you want romance) Sorry to vent man, but this is like the 20th + time I've tried to get anywhere in this game... and the best I can do is begin ACT 3 so far. For a compliment I will add; I really do not know how you managed to complete this game so many times through. Did you sell your soul to Asmodeus? o.o At this point, if I can't get some actual help to complete at least the Aeon Questline for a playthrough as I want, I will have to give up on that. For the sake of my own mind. Because I'm not going to let one short sighted development company - that probably wanted to copy Batman Arkham with nary a mechanic invested for that, or Witcher Vision - give me a freaking stroke. Beating my head against the wall trying to figure out their giant bloody Rubix Cube. Which did not have to be. Because right now, to me, that's exactly what every thing in this game is. Thank you for what help you could provide. It is appreciated. I'm not quite done yet. I'm just on a razor's line. End of the day and as a tip to recall to the developers = it does NOT matter how much cool crap you put in your game, or how complex you think you should layer it. If doing so manages to make sure that 90% of your actual player base will never complete the game. It doesn't matter how many classes, how many cross classes, subsets or pets you make. If again, by dint of nature in RPG's and exploration to gain said power levels at scale, you're going to impose detriments that render such basically pointless to try. Have any of you even checked the completion statistics? At all... Pathfinder Kingmaker barely worked. Some of the time. If you were lucky. It's still more borked that not on Consoles. We warned you, we all TOLD YOU what did not work in the mechanics. You chose to put it into Wrath as well even AFTER you said it wasn't going to be. You even actively made it worse. So for that alone, you've lost my good faith. A good DM does NOT aim for a Total Party Kill. You never should. Challenge, does not mean "break me." The game does not have to be Dark Souls to be either well layered or complex. Which are now buzz words to me. Thank you oh so much for that. Slandered; you're good people. So hopefully you won't take any of this personal. It's not aimed at you, and you're free to disagree. (I know how you feel about Nenio... so, yeah. Agree to Disagree HARD on that) Be safe, and stay well if you can. I'm gonna try to get through the game, and if I can't get better than Act 3, so be it. If I can, I'll probably have you to thank. Massively.
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Listening to Iomadae going on about how the Commander has a mortal mind and is only pretending to be a divine entity, as if she were born divine .. It's barely been 100 years since her ascension at that point. I couldn't roll my eyes harder if I tried.
That's one of the weirdest issues with her cameo as a whole.Being afraid of the evil paths is one thing,but aeon and angel are LITERALLY the embodiment of "we are the good guys".It comes off like she's scared for nothing.
@@bearandthebull2372 i wouldnt call Aeon a good guy, its more like a machine that enforces laws only it could fully understand. Azata is much more approprite to be called a good guy, you are literally a hippy thats restores everything.
@@bearandthebull2372 an Aeon isn't good, if it needed to sacrifice a mountain of babies to restore order, it would.
Order is more important than good and evil.
Iomedae, being a deity of good, is butthurt about that.
Point of order, its been nearly 1000 years since she ascended to godhood, its only been 100 years since aroden "died" and she replaced him as the inheritor.
I really don't care for Iomadae, always sounds like she's more afraid of a new rival than "saving" you.
Yup I agree.
Wow...even as an Aeon Imoedae has the audacity to say that your pride will destroy you...worse. goddess. Ever.
Spoiler.
being an Aeon will destroy you, if you keep choosing the lawful options.
@@Turnil321 she'll say that shit even if you weren't a Aeon.
well shes not the only mortal who became a divine being so shes not happy abou not being that special anymore. you would think becoming a divine being would let you not be so petty but shes as bad as any mortal or demon lord
@@artje90 and yet she decides to stay out of it...a fucking butterfly put the fear of god on the demons when they decided to mess with the body of one of her followers and yet this "goddess" berates you about your pride when she does fuck all. And she's suppose the goddess of good and justice!?
@@phantomvulpe791 Ye at that point you feel like the paladins of iomade kill more other humans then actual demons. cause she aint pushing them to mess them demons up
Laying down THE LAW in epic fashion.
Weird that Seelah is all "Iomedae has spoken, dummy!" unless you go Angel. Then she practically forgoes her faith to become a Paladin of the Commander.
Yeah it's very interesting.
I think I remember Seelah supports you as an Azata, as well.
Ember/seelah/aru support good paths.
Regil/greybor support non-chaotic paths
Soseil supports non-evil paths.
Camelia supports non-lawful/good paths except lich.
Daeren supports non -evil paths
Wenduwag supports all paths.
(All of this is excluding swarm)
Finally. Lann consistently supports being yourself in all paths.
Regils point on your companions friendship/support being fleeting holds true :)
i got slight goose bumbs on "the LAW"
😀
I'm not sure if I screwed up during the trial in the Abyss but I couldn't use Aeon's power to judge the invaders in that scene
Wow that is weird.
This Law run through is fantastic, you earned my sub.
Thank you! Glad you have enjoyed the series!
In my opinion freedom demon is most fun path to play because story is great and i love to screw over all of them, except Worldwound's best mom and go for ascension ending with her
That's up next. I am in Act 5 of that playthrough right now and loving it.
@@SlanderedGaming Thank you
@@SlanderedGaming I loved your lich playthrough. It reminded me of when my friend played it as Pharasma worshiping lich and it was hilarious.
In a funny way, Iomedae is correct. The actions of the Aeon Commander (if they fully commit and dont go renegade) does resilt in the world they know to be replaced by a timeline where the worldwound doesnt exist. In the end, their world is destroyed and replaced by a better one.
Yup that's true.
good narration/voice acting
goood video subscribed
Thank you!
If HIS pride will destroy him - but SHE stands by to do nothing (because she knows she actually can't without bringing half the pantheon down on her head for trying) AND acting in the vein of stripping MC's powers; which she can THEORETICALLY actually do, will by her own admission cause "more harm" to this world [Somehow, than destroying it outright would do? o.O] What does that say about her own ruffled feathers. Bent nose for pride's sake because she's had her hands all but tied against these demons for how long???
This is the reason the Crusade does not make sense. It is why the morale system is by written lore, massively stupid; the HoMM is stupid, kingdom management IS NOT KC's job! and the whole argument here is basically rendered as a means for the devs to insult the player no matter which path is taken. By this ONE character. As an argument for Atheism? Against it... search me. The demons had Drezen for over seventy years and the soldiers fought on. You take it in a month and a half at worst if you do everything and do any building of your base army at all... and one BS time limit (where they take away decent magic items if you don't want to lose morale) screws you over hard. Come. On. Owlcat! Just by gaining Drezen back with an effective anti teleporting shield you should NEVER have to worry about Morale again. Period. (I could understand it as an incentivizing method in order to push for re-taking Drezen when you don't control it, but it's still a "dick move" mechanically)
Stick to the RPG and choose your own adventure aspect. That's where you're gold. Nobody likes the puzzles, or the minigames. We've all told you they're not good. The exhaustion/fatigue mechanic gets directly in the way of any notion we should explore or try for side questing at all. You guys REALLY need to think about this stuff. Before you implement it. Iomedae is NOT omnipotent as a God. You should with the Mythic Power at least have about a 1 in 10 chance - to a 1 in 50 chance realistically to literally kick her arse. If you're going to write characters to be assholes no matter what path is chosen, you're just berating the player at that point. For even having managed somehow to get that bloody far.
I have tried to look up the Aeon Questline by the way, and I still can't find definitive answers as to what EXACTLY needs to be done to get anywhere other than talking to the mirror and saying the oath. Truly, I appreciate the role play, but what I would ask for is a full guide. For every actual mythic path. At least the difficult to complete ones. I did not have this problem trying out Azata for example. (Other than I like Monk, and screw whoever thought up the idea of let's restrict alignments for MYTHIC POWER. There are maybe 3 in the entire game; but it means that frankly, if you want to be a druid, a monk or a paladin you are buggered for playing most of the mytic options. That is NOT SMART)
So many aspects of this game just peeve me right off. Because they're either completely antithecial to good tabletop role playing, or they straight up do not need to be there in the first place.
* I already wrote on another post long ago if you recall exactly why I understand that Iomedae is a bitch to KC. It doesn't make such smart writing, if you consider the point a lot of players will take not having at least ONE "right" answer a little personally. (They could also have helped players out by - as with alignments - labeling WHICH conversation choices with each romanceable character will actualize the romance. Or screw it over. It's not really that hard to give the player a hand - and frankly even in RL some people have difficulty with social structure. There's A LOT of responses that seem like they should be okay, and they just aren't if you want romance) Sorry to vent man, but this is like the 20th + time I've tried to get anywhere in this game... and the best I can do is begin ACT 3 so far. For a compliment I will add; I really do not know how you managed to complete this game so many times through. Did you sell your soul to Asmodeus? o.o
At this point, if I can't get some actual help to complete at least the Aeon Questline for a playthrough as I want, I will have to give up on that. For the sake of my own mind. Because I'm not going to let one short sighted development company - that probably wanted to copy Batman Arkham with nary a mechanic invested for that, or Witcher Vision - give me a freaking stroke. Beating my head against the wall trying to figure out their giant bloody Rubix Cube. Which did not have to be. Because right now, to me, that's exactly what every thing in this game is. Thank you for what help you could provide. It is appreciated. I'm not quite done yet. I'm just on a razor's line. End of the day and as a tip to recall to the developers = it does NOT matter how much cool crap you put in your game, or how complex you think you should layer it. If doing so manages to make sure that 90% of your actual player base will never complete the game. It doesn't matter how many classes, how many cross classes, subsets or pets you make. If again, by dint of nature in RPG's and exploration to gain said power levels at scale, you're going to impose detriments that render such basically pointless to try. Have any of you even checked the completion statistics? At all... Pathfinder Kingmaker barely worked. Some of the time. If you were lucky. It's still more borked that not on Consoles. We warned you, we all TOLD YOU what did not work in the mechanics. You chose to put it into Wrath as well even AFTER you said it wasn't going to be. You even actively made it worse. So for that alone, you've lost my good faith. A good DM does NOT aim for a Total Party Kill. You never should. Challenge, does not mean "break me." The game does not have to be Dark Souls to be either well layered or complex. Which are now buzz words to me. Thank you oh so much for that.
Slandered; you're good people. So hopefully you won't take any of this personal. It's not aimed at you, and you're free to disagree. (I know how you feel about Nenio... so, yeah. Agree to Disagree HARD on that) Be safe, and stay well if you can. I'm gonna try to get through the game, and if I can't get better than Act 3, so be it. If I can, I'll probably have you to thank. Massively.
I AM A JUDGE.....JUDGE DREDD!
I cannot stand Iomedae; just so smug and full of herself. Awful.
I AM THE LAW!
who tf is trever,never seen him