When she said, “The adhesive is added by mom.” I knew what she meant. But I pictured Shakira having a little craft night, going around with a jar of rubber cement, creating a perfect little egg sculpture 😂
Opps, didn’t mean to make this a reply here, sorry for the topic change! Moved it to the main thread. “I did a science experiment in school (6th grade, science fair) regarding food coloring and earthworms…”
I love that you're testing whether different marker colors affect hatch rates, but I wanted to point out that the orange and black markers you used in this video were also different brands, which could also have an affect.
I know that colored sharpies affect chicken eggs so it could easily affect snake eggs because those eggs are a lot less calcified than bird eggs. One of the people I know who was looking into it while I was at the University thought it caused the birds to not develop an egg tooth and hindered brain development, but I graduated before his study was complete.
@@kiarakeeper2154 I can try, but I don't know if he still can use the school email address. It has been 5 years.... Usually, you lose access to it a semester after you graduate and I don't know when he graduated
I don't know about the permeability of reptile eggs, but I know that Sharpie's can contain toxic chemicals which can be harmful to humans in large doses. That small marking compared to the tiny embryo may be massive. An alternative may be using food grade inks that are safe for human consumption. I don't know if they would work for you, but they sell markers for writing on cookies. I wish you much success!
Ideally, you should actually have black and orange distributed randomly in the box. This controls for differences based on position in the box and thus incubator (i.e. gradient of temperature, humidity, perlite depth).
I was able to visit the zoo for my first time on 6/11. It was so much fun! This channel has helped me get over a fear of snakes and I was so excited to be able to pet pearl and other animals. Everyone was so nice, friendly, and very knowledgeable. Great experience!!
I think the orange might have an effect on hatch rate. I’ve noticed that certain colors seem to disappear during incubation so maybe whatever colorant used in those markers is penetrating into the egg and potentially causing harm to the embryo.
While this is possible, I think it's unlikely. I'm an artist/science nerd, for context. Most of these inks are just not light/waterfast, meaning the colors fade and change over time and due to environmental factors. It's a super fascinating topic and I highly recommend you read up on it :) it's so interesting to see how two colors that look identical fade within hours vs survive the test of time for hundreds of years just due to their composition!
I think you have a point, but if I remember correctly it was green that mostly disappear. (The pepper drawings, and orange was a bit vage in the end, but green became orange)
I was just coming here to say that! I was screaming at my phone the whole video while Emily was drawing, increasing in volume each time "that's not 12", "there's more than 12", "THERE'S 13 EGGS THERE!" 😂😂😂
Please don’t hold back hatching videos. Those are my absolute favorites. I know you have a large amount of eggs but seeing the babies hatch makes my day❤️
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 Might be unhealthy for snakes and most likely very stressful for them and the staff having to care for hundreds of baby snakes year round
Emily could also do the experiment with hognoses to see if the species and egg composition react differently to markers and so she has more data in general. I would also mark every other egg with one color and the rest with the other in order to really mix them up, just in case the temperature is slightly different in the left and right part of the box and that has an effect on hatch rates
I had the same thought, I know they’ve spoken before about eggs from the same clutch being incubated in extremely tiny differences in space or positioning and it completely altering their hatch rates.
Little Dotty had such a great looking first clutch! So happy she did well! I feel like Emily needs a Snake Discovery go-pro helmet for when she's filming solo--better to have both hands.
I think you should have checkerboard patterned the eggs just to make sure it wasnt all of the beginning or end eggs. Maybe the fertilization window only hit half as they are sometimes wont to do.
@@elliotcmI thought about that, but I personally never had a problem with an incubator to any significance. Humidity based on where holes were placed maybe? I have wondered if temp affects sex rate just like turtles!
@@seregiel9541 I know almost nothing about snake husbandry, I'm sure the incubator is top notch, it's more about building in protections against coincidence without having to actually prove that something unexpected didn't happen
I can see a lot of ways to experiment with markers with different clutches. Different Brands, Permenant vs non-permenant. Also it may not be the pigment alone, it could be how they formulated the markers for each colour
Not sure if you left that editors note in at 13:45 on purpose for a lil joke or if it was left in by accident, but just wanted to let you know it was there just in case! Great video as always and very excited to see these little babies hatch!
Please do an updated meet all our snakes video! It'd be so interesting to see who you all still have vs your newer 🐍! Even just the snakes in the back of thr shop ❤ been watching since feed my pet fridays 🎉
As an added experiment you could separate the orange and black eggs. That way if and when the babies hatch you could check for any birth defects that the colours might cause. Very interesting experiment and I hope the babies grow ok.
But then again, separating the eggs creates a new variable because they're not being incubated in the exact same way (differences in temperature in different spots in the incubator, air flow, the amount and moisture levels of the perlite, etc). If anything, the fact that they're split down the middle with left being one color and right another already could introduce another variable because the conditions in one side could vary from the other. Ideally they should all be in the same container, and randomly assigned a color rather than having a middle split, so the position inside the container wouldn't be a factor for just one of the colors.
@@kiminimuchu__although if multiple batches show a discrepancy between ink colors, separating to check for defects (if the ink seems to be affecting that) could be a next factor to check for
Another interesting datapoint that could've been taken into consideration with the old clutches: how large was the clutch that the egg was part of? Because I think you often used more colours for larger clutches. And larger clutches might generally have a lower hatching rate?
Emily you did amazing on your own, wouldn't have known unless you said 😊 also shout out to the fan for the data calculations on the egg hatch rate, what a dedicated fan love that
After the pigment *type* debate is settled, I'd also be interested to see an investigation of pigment *amount*. I wonder if the chance of hatching is different between eggs that have say, the traditional 'dot' you used to do, versus a fully coloured-in drawing, since one involves a lot more marker fluid than the other.
I love that you’re doing this Fascinating experiment! Are they the non-toxic markers? Three types of Sharpie markers contain xylene, a chemical capable of causing damage to the respiratory, central nervous, cardiovascular, and renal systems. Only the King Size Sharpie, Magnum Sharpie, and Touch-Up Sharpie contain this chemical. Inhaling the vapor released by these markers or ingesting their contents can cause injury. However, it's not technically correct to call this "ink poisoning" because the issue is the solvent, not the pigment. Some tattooists use Sharpies to draw designs on the skin, but red markers using azo dyes have been connected to allergic reactions creating complications in long-healed tattoos. Can’t wait to see the outcome!!!!! Thanks so much for sharing!
You should also check to see if there are different ingredients in each marker- that way you can discern if there is a difference between the two markers and also check any future colored markers used for that ingredient (provided there is a difference in ingredients).
While most washable inks are water based and designed to break down easily, Sharpies use water-insoluble ink that contains Permachrome, a pigment used in ink for ink-jet printers, and xylene and toluene as binding agents to give the ink longevity. Xylene is a clear solvent used in paints and varnishes, and toluene is typically found in crude oil and gasoline. The chemicals are relatively safe in the small amounts used in Sharpie markers but can be toxic if inhaled in larger amounts.
15:35 u know how when you were something dark or in black color the sun hits you like a hot summer you can’t get away of but when you were something bright color the sun doesn’t affect you that much? Well I think it is based on the colors you use.
Emily and ed have truly made a big difference in our lives by learning about their reptiles it really is helpful thank u Emily and ed for everything you do and keep doing it!
I think they do absorb markers in general because they pull water from outside of the egg to inside of it. Very interested to see how this goes. it would be awesome if it didn't and the pigment didn't hurt the babies at all
As an artist I naturally avoid letting red or orange paint sit in my hands for too long. Normally I wash it off right away. Even more so with oil based paint. I don’t think a colored sharpie will cause trouble but a good rule of thumb to wash your hands after working with orange or red.
Interesting experiment! If you go further, it would be better to ensure the colors are distributed randomly amongst the eggs, and if possible, leave a few blank for control. Another comment already mentioned the brand difference. PS. I can't wait for the all hatchling videos!! I love seeing the lil snakes poke their head out of the eggs :))
I’ve been watching you guys for at least four years now. Although I’m 13 soon and don’t know much, it’s been so fun to see you guys progress and build (I know those are the same thing) your zoo and animal collection. My favorite video of yours is when you put a camera in Rex’s room at your house. That one makes me laugh every time. I love you ed and Emily! ❤
I would be curious if you are experimenting if medical markers used by doctors to mark on peoples skin would create a better hatch rate. They come in a bunch of different colors and would be less toxic than sharpies to mark the eggs with.
@@VictoriaEMeredith Idk, my friend like drawing on her hands and arms and her Mom's a doctor so she got her these special medical markers for her to use.
Maybe medical markers are used on those with more allergies/chance of allergic reaction? Or those with asthma to avoid a potential problem in case of allergic reaction?
Emily, thanx to you and Ed, I have lessened my fear of biting snakes. I have always loved pythons. but venomous snakes make me nervous. I watch a lot of reptile vids now. Thannk you.
A video without Ed in it, at this point with how often he's in videos now, is definitely a strange change of pace (for lack of a better term). It gives me a strange sense of nostalgia when it's just Emily on screen, reminds me of when I first started watching years ago when Ed was more nervous about being on screen. Yet, Still loved the video just the same as when he is here! I hope Ed got better fast from whatever he was sick with. I love these videos so much they make me feel so home-y. Thank you guys for continuing to produce videos! It would be my absolute DREAM job to work at the facility with all the animals and help out with the zoo if I didn't live so far. 😢
I did a science experiment in school (6th grade, science fair) regarding food coloring and earthworms. I had 5 groups of earthworms: control (just banana, no peel), red (red food coloring mixed with mashed banana), yellow, green, and blue. The food coloring affected the coloring of the earthworms.* Based on how the eggs have gas and moisture exchange, I agree with the hypothesis that pigments could negatively affect the snake embryos. We also know that some humans have bad reactions to certain color dyes, so a snake embryo, in the most vulnerable stage of life, could be having a reaction to a specific color, or to an additive that isn’t common in black sharpies, but is common in colored sharpies. *The following year, I testing the effects of natural pigments… don’t feed earthworms just maple leaves, they’re too acidic, they’ll turn a ghastly white and die. I was very upset. Natural pigments are often more diluted than my artificial pigmented bananas, so overall it was less obvious, but there was some differences in the colors beyond the bad reaction to maple leaves. Earthworms have no trouble with maple leaves in a larger environment, where the leaves decompose on the ground’s surface (rather than being buried in a 2 liter bottle) and rain slowly diffuses the acidic components. So, don’t try to add earthworms to a compost pile that’s solely maple leaves, but you don’t have to worry about the earthworms living under your maple tree.
I'm a biology teacher and I'm teaching my Y7s about the scientific method at the moment - so I'm going to use the second half of this video to show them some experimental design!
I'm sad that incubating them in clumps didn't work because peeling them apart is so stressful, obviously you guys are super careful but I always worry one of the eggs is going to get torn
Someone mentioned that the different brands of marker used could affect the results, but so could egg placement within the container. Like next year when you pick a different colour, to scatter the colours instead of splitting them half and half so they're colour and black side by side so if something goes wrong on one side of the container it doesn't skew results
I went to Reptile Gardens in South Dakota the other day for the first time as an adult. I’d gone many times before as a child, but it was so exciting to know about lots of the animals there in part due to your videos! Hopefully someday I can visit your zoo and be just as excited about all your critters!
I need to tell you but me and my brother have been watching you for 5 years !i think. i am so happy to see this i love ur vids me and my bro love snakes we find some in our back yard then feed them! i love you and ed
I didn't know the reason for the pennies in the water, and when I googled it it brought me back to the part of your own video from years ago where you explained it. Google knows... 😂 As a metalsmith what I can say about pennies is that since the copper ions that will have contact with the water and therefore will destroy microbes are the ones on the outside of the penny. So it's fine to use pennies newer than 1982, but if you use pennies that were minted in the past few years you may have a little less success because the tin is no longer just a core that's skinned by copper, but it's mixed into the whole penny. That's why pennies from the last 5+ yrs look brighter/lighter. It's due to the silvery gray color of the tin. I don't think that the tin should pose any toxicity risks, but I'm not an expert on snakes, so I can't say for sure. It does take a few hours for copper to actually kill bacteria, and you may just be better off using stainless steel bowls because it has a similar effect, but that comes down to a numbers game. You have to factor costs of bowls, cost of water, cleaning supplies, time, etc.
I love the genetics discussions, I raise corntix quails and breed for pattern/color, trying to eventually eliminate their patterns and have them as solid black or gray birds. Genetics is more fun than people give it credit for.
I don't think the marker is the issue. I think it's more related to just how many went bad last year due to mold. The mold is likely caused by too much stagnant moist air being trapped around the eggs. Not enough airflow will contribute to mold growth. I know you don't want them to dry out, but at the same time, mold is just as bad, if not worse than them drying out.
Healthy eggs don't usually mold you can have one moldy egg next to a healthy that doesn't. I've also seen some moldy eggs hatch with hatchling just fine, dedicated eggs, not so much.
What are the odds that it’s not only the color but maybe the brand of the marker? Like maybe the way the marker company makes the pigment whatever they add to it could change what effects the eggs? Because both markers are different brands.
It could very well be a marker brand issue. In that case, more likely than the color, it would depend on the specific formula. Is it a water based marker, alcohol, stronger solvents? That is the most concerning part in my opinion.
I’m afraid of snakes and reptiles in general,but you have get me interested by snakes and I love your videos. They are so beautiful… Thank you so much.
Hi Emily, loved the video as always! I’m also not convinced yet that the orange marker effect last year was more than a coincidence, but very interested to see the results of this experiment. The scientist in me did want you to use a template to make each square exactly the same size, but then again the eggs have varying surface areas due to being different sizes. Can’t always standardise everything!
This vid has made me so grateful for Ed 🤣😂Emily u did great but the moving cam makes it feel like we are there with u instead of it feeling like a live stream but still love this vid ❤❤❤❤
Here's some ideas for things to mark on eggs if you ever need them: A Portal themed clutch A cereal themed clutch A Wings of Fire themed clutch (I pretty sure Emily said she's read it once? And there are ten different types of dragons) A continent themed clutch A weather themed clutch (they may have done this already, I don't remember) A rainbow clutch (if the experiment turns out not to be different with different marker colors) for pride month A gemstone themed clutch A minecraft themed clutch Or you could try to guess what morph each egg is gonna be and write that on the egg XD
Nice job filming this all by yourself, Emily!!! I'm impressed!! I'd struggle to do something like that, LOL. Feel better Ed!!! My theory about the different colors is the same as yours. I think it's really just a coincidence, and the color has no bearing on whether they hatch or not. I would be interested to see what happened if you didn't mark the eggs at all. I don't think it plays a roll at all here. I think if they're gonna hatch, they'll hatch.
Hey Emily and Ed. What is the smallest and friendliest python you can own as a starter. I was recently holding w python snakes that were awesome, a banana cinnamon and a banana hiball and guessed the both without anyone saying until afterwards. Thanks to you and Brian Barczeck
@@Riceball01 People say that, but back when I wanted a snake (it fell through), I was turned off by ball pythons' fussiness. I would definitely panic if they went on a hunger strike.
Ball pythons are actually not the ideal starter for most people, whether because of their fussiness or because they can be very sensitive to changes in their environment. Children's pythons, from the Antaresia genus, might be a better choice.
Different colors usually means different chemicals... copper for example is often used for blue dyes and is technicly poisonous. I'm not sure what pigments is used for your orange marker but yes it could affect the birthrate IMHO. So I'm looking forward to this update and maybe even more testing with different markers. And maybe get to single out what chemical causes lower birthrate so we can avoid using it.
Instead of animal-testing they could have gone over the ingredients first... (you know, the "do your homework-part") But it would not interest the viewers as much...
"If you drop soap on the floor, is the floor clean, or is the soap dirty?" - I love the little jokes at the end of each video, but I think today's one was a bit backwards 😆 Love all you guys do at snake discovery.
Looking forward to seeing how the experiment turns out! Although, I do have to say, that’s a very small population to be basing the results off of. Do you plan on adding any other clutches to this experiment, or will you only be experimenting on the one clutch? I know you probably don’t want to risk too many experiments giving the monetary investments you’ve made into them, but a bigger sample size is always better. Also, what other colors do you plan to experiment with in this fashion? You mentioned that this year you’d be experimenting with orange specifically, so what’s the second “worst” color you’ll be experimenting with (presumably) next year?
If all the orange eggs go bad, I think it's safe to say the orange marker is bad, but if they get good or ambiguous results I think they should definitely do more tests.
@@schrodingerscat3741 True, but did you also notice that the orange marker is a different brand compared to the black one? That’s another variable they accidentally introduced to the experiment too. Different brands use different ratios of ink, chemicals, etc. as well as different types of those various things (probably, anyways, not 100% positive). So unless that’s the exact same orange marker that they’ve always used, then that other variable could sway results as well. Plus, and this is just being nit-picky, but they can’t really say that they’re experimenting with “Sharpies”, the brand, if they aren’t actually testing a Sharpie-brand orange sharpie, now can they?
This sample will be too small to say for certain, but enough to make someone superstitious about that orange marker if they don’t hatch. Further testing can be done, paying more attention to the variables, once the possibility is ruled out or revealed to be a potential concern. This is like the background research testing, rather than the actual experiment, in some ways.
I have become a fan of Bull Snakes. I recently bought my first one. Named him Captain Bull. A sometimes sweet, sometimes fierce little snake friend. He is calming down now that he knows I will not hurt him.
if you go back and watch videos from previous years where you have used several colors on the same egg, you can see that the black color has remained on the egg without faded away, but everything other than black that was on the egg has faded away or was absorbed by the egg.
This is a sad day for me. I only encountered Snake Discovery a few months ago. I started at the beginning and over the last few months I've watched every one of your videos. I'm now officially caught up. The problem is, I now have to wait for you to post another video before I can watch a new one.
When she said, “The adhesive is added by mom.” I knew what she meant. But I pictured Shakira having a little craft night, going around with a jar of rubber cement, creating a perfect little egg sculpture 😂
Hehehe I could see that happening though.
That could be a suuuuuper cure shirt design!! Shakira Craft Night 🐍🧴
😂😂😂
@@dawnchesbro4189that's an awesome idea!!! 🤣
Opps, didn’t mean to make this a reply here, sorry for the topic change! Moved it to the main thread.
“I did a science experiment in school (6th grade, science fair) regarding food coloring and earthworms…”
I love that you're testing whether different marker colors affect hatch rates, but I wanted to point out that the orange and black markers you used in this video were also different brands, which could also have an affect.
I thought the same thing!
Thank you for pointing that out! That’ll definitely tell if it brands, colors, etc. can’t wait to find out!
Interesting!
True
Bump!
Emily, you and Ed have truly built something phenomenal
Wiwi 😗👌
Oui oui 👍🏽
It’s so strange how people get so many likes even though they just are staring the truth that everyone already knows 😂
Yes I agree
@@coycay55 some ppls might not know-? Idk, ya
Emily: “Dottie is known for having an attitude.”
Me: “Hmm yes this bullsnake is made of bullsnake.”
Indeed
Indeed
Good observation
I know that colored sharpies affect chicken eggs so it could easily affect snake eggs because those eggs are a lot less calcified than bird eggs. One of the people I know who was looking into it while I was at the University thought it caused the birds to not develop an egg tooth and hindered brain development, but I graduated before his study was complete.
Yeah I wouldn’t risk it. I’ve always been concerned about the usage of sharpies on the eggs. They’re just too fragile to run the risk
You could reach out to him and ask him to send you his thesis paper? Or ask him to speak with Emily and Ed about his study
Guess we all will wait out the time. Time will tell whether it does or doesn’t. :D
@@kiarakeeper2154 I can try, but I don't know if he still can use the school email address. It has been 5 years.... Usually, you lose access to it a semester after you graduate and I don't know when he graduated
Yup! When i used to hatch chicken eggs i would only use a wood pencil to mark them (after making research about it i geard any liquid ink was a no no)
Another variable to consider for the experiment could be the brand of marker, since the orange isn’t a Sharpie brand
thats honestly a rather huge factor imo
That is what I was thinking as well. Even though it is a perm marker it could have different stuff in it.
I don't know about the permeability of reptile eggs, but I know that Sharpie's can contain toxic chemicals which can be harmful to humans in large doses. That small marking compared to the tiny embryo may be massive. An alternative may be using food grade inks that are safe for human consumption. I don't know if they would work for you, but they sell markers for writing on cookies. I wish you much success!
Yes! Please test these and see if they last throughout the incubation period and withstand the humidity.
Food coloring on a brush?
@@katiekane5247 No, they actually make markers just like a Sharpie but with food color in it
Or just use tattoo or surgical m markers. Designed to be incredibly non-toxic, so that if they’re poked into the body they don’t cause an issue.
Just adding a comment cuz your idea is great (to help the algorythm so that Emily can read this)
Ideally, you should actually have black and orange distributed randomly in the box. This controls for differences based on position in the box and thus incubator (i.e. gradient of temperature, humidity, perlite depth).
That was my thought too.
@@lcoq19 Same here... this is NOT "random"
I was able to visit the zoo for my first time on 6/11. It was so much fun! This channel has helped me get over a fear of snakes and I was so excited to be able to pet pearl and other animals. Everyone was so nice, friendly, and very knowledgeable. Great experience!!
I feel the same way
This channel had also help we to get over my phobia of snakes a whole lot.❤ I can feel the same way.
I grew up with this channel and it's on my bucket list to be able to visit the facility one day :)
I wanna visit so bad
I think the orange might have an effect on hatch rate. I’ve noticed that certain colors seem to disappear during incubation so maybe whatever colorant used in those markers is penetrating into the egg and potentially causing harm to the embryo.
While this is possible, I think it's unlikely. I'm an artist/science nerd, for context. Most of these inks are just not light/waterfast, meaning the colors fade and change over time and due to environmental factors. It's a super fascinating topic and I highly recommend you read up on it :) it's so interesting to see how two colors that look identical fade within hours vs survive the test of time for hundreds of years just due to their composition!
I think you have a point, but if I remember correctly it was green that mostly disappear. (The pepper drawings, and orange was a bit vage in the end, but green became orange)
I love how Emily kept saying 12 eggs when there were 13 xD
Ok not losing my mind
Omg it’s been driving me mad… I was searching to see if anyone else noticed 😂
@@staceyrichards9083 so was I
I was just coming here to say that! I was screaming at my phone the whole video while Emily was drawing, increasing in volume each time "that's not 12", "there's more than 12", "THERE'S 13 EGGS THERE!" 😂😂😂
i just made a comment about it and seen yours 😭
Please don’t hold back hatching videos. Those are my absolute favorites. I know you have a large amount of eggs but seeing the babies hatch makes my day❤️
Don't worry. If it's anything like last year, hatching videos will last clear through to December
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 Replying to signal boost! Love this idea!
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 Might be unhealthy for snakes and most likely very stressful for them and the staff having to care for hundreds of baby snakes year round
@@kimberlyrichardson5943 I agree also they could always get more staff to help with the snakes.
Emily could also do the experiment with hognoses to see if the species and egg composition react differently to markers and so she has more data in general. I would also mark every other egg with one color and the rest with the other in order to really mix them up, just in case the temperature is slightly different in the left and right part of the box and that has an effect on hatch rates
I had the same thought.
I had the same thought, I know they’ve spoken before about eggs from the same clutch being incubated in extremely tiny differences in space or positioning and it completely altering their hatch rates.
Little Dotty had such a great looking first clutch! So happy she did well! I feel like Emily needs a Snake Discovery go-pro helmet for when she's filming solo--better to have both hands.
Boosting this
I think you should have checkerboard patterned the eggs just to make sure it wasnt all of the beginning or end eggs. Maybe the fertilization window only hit half as they are sometimes wont to do.
Would also reduce the chance of an incubation problem, like if one half of the box was exposed to more heat than the other.
Anticipating all the possible variables is one of the hardest skills to learn as a scientist.
THIS. (See my main comment for my missed variable in a color/pigment experiment on earthworms.)
@@elliotcmI thought about that, but I personally never had a problem with an incubator to any significance. Humidity based on where holes were placed maybe?
I have wondered if temp affects sex rate just like turtles!
@@seregiel9541 I know almost nothing about snake husbandry, I'm sure the incubator is top notch, it's more about building in protections against coincidence without having to actually prove that something unexpected didn't happen
I can see a lot of ways to experiment with markers with different clutches. Different Brands, Permenant vs non-permenant.
Also it may not be the pigment alone, it could be how they formulated the markers for each colour
Also would be nice to test a tiny dot vs a big drawing.
Not sure if you left that editors note in at 13:45 on purpose for a lil joke or if it was left in by accident, but just wanted to let you know it was there just in case! Great video as always and very excited to see these little babies hatch!
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I sat and listened over and over and couldn't catch what was said on the editors note, so I think they caught it
@@alyssafoote3899 It's definitely still in it
@@alyssafoote3899 it took me a second. Obviously its not what she actually said but it does sound a bit like it, and she wouldn't say it anyway
Another bump. I did hear what Ed heard.
It would make sense that the different chemicals in coloured pens could have an adverse affect on the eggs. Their could also be differences in brands
I hope Ed feels better and yay I can't believe that two bull snakes lead eggs
I’m also sick😅but I still hope Ed gets better duh!
Feel better Ed.
Ed doesn't get enough love.
hope Ed feels better i hope shakira’s and Dottie’s babies are all healthy congratulations 🎈
Please do an updated meet all our snakes video! It'd be so interesting to see who you all still have vs your newer 🐍! Even just the snakes in the back of thr shop ❤ been watching since feed my pet fridays 🎉
I love it when Emily and Ed have to play Incubator Tetris. It’s always fun seeing where the clutches end up in the warmer.
As an added experiment you could separate the orange and black eggs. That way if and when the babies hatch you could check for any birth defects that the colours might cause. Very interesting experiment and I hope the babies grow ok.
Very good point. Not hatching could be just one symptom of a whole line of issues...
But then again, separating the eggs creates a new variable because they're not being incubated in the exact same way (differences in temperature in different spots in the incubator, air flow, the amount and moisture levels of the perlite, etc). If anything, the fact that they're split down the middle with left being one color and right another already could introduce another variable because the conditions in one side could vary from the other. Ideally they should all be in the same container, and randomly assigned a color rather than having a middle split, so the position inside the container wouldn't be a factor for just one of the colors.
@@kiminimuchu__although if multiple batches show a discrepancy between ink colors, separating to check for defects (if the ink seems to be affecting that) could be a next factor to check for
How is this not called “The Marker Eggsperiment” 😭😭
Lmao 😂😂
Another interesting datapoint that could've been taken into consideration with the old clutches: how large was the clutch that the egg was part of? Because I think you often used more colours for larger clutches. And larger clutches might generally have a lower hatching rate?
Emily you did amazing on your own, wouldn't have known unless you said 😊 also shout out to the fan for the data calculations on the egg hatch rate, what a dedicated fan love that
After the pigment *type* debate is settled, I'd also be interested to see an investigation of pigment *amount*. I wonder if the chance of hatching is different between eggs that have say, the traditional 'dot' you used to do, versus a fully coloured-in drawing, since one involves a lot more marker fluid than the other.
Me too. Might be stressful for a lot of viewers, but my curiosity knows no bounds.
I love that you’re doing this Fascinating experiment! Are they the non-toxic markers? Three types of Sharpie markers contain xylene, a chemical capable of causing damage to the respiratory, central nervous, cardiovascular, and renal systems. Only the King Size Sharpie, Magnum Sharpie, and Touch-Up Sharpie contain this chemical. Inhaling the vapor released by these markers or ingesting their contents can cause injury. However, it's not technically correct to call this "ink poisoning" because the issue is the solvent, not the pigment.
Some tattooists use Sharpies to draw designs on the skin, but red markers using azo dyes have been connected to allergic reactions creating complications in long-healed tattoos.
Can’t wait to see the outcome!!!!! Thanks so much for sharing!
🎉 shoutout to your video editor! I always love watching for the snake’s “comments” and as a video editor, I appreciated the editing note! 😂🎉
You should also check to see if there are different ingredients in each marker- that way you can discern if there is a difference between the two markers and also check any future colored markers used for that ingredient (provided there is a difference in ingredients).
This baby season is going to be _epic!_ Fingers crossed they all hatch! 🤞
While most washable inks are water based and designed to break down easily, Sharpies use water-insoluble ink that contains Permachrome, a pigment used in ink for ink-jet printers, and xylene and toluene as binding agents to give the ink longevity. Xylene is a clear solvent used in paints and varnishes, and toluene is typically found in crude oil and gasoline. The chemicals are relatively safe in the small amounts used in Sharpie markers but can be toxic if inhaled in larger amounts.
Oh and fyi- there's an editing note at 13:46 left in thr video... ❤
... I was wondering if anyone else noticed that too
15:35 u know how when you were something dark or in black color the sun hits you like a hot summer you can’t get away of but when you were something bright color the sun doesn’t affect you that much? Well I think it is based on the colors you use.
It's always eggciting when the snakes lay more eggs 😃🐍🥚🥚
cant wait for the babys! i have two lepord gekos and they are doing great! every time i go to a reptile show i wish to see you have a good day!
Great job Dottie for the first year laying eggs!
Emily and ed have truly made a big difference in our lives by learning about their reptiles it really is helpful thank u Emily and ed for everything you do and keep doing it!
I think they do absorb markers in general because they pull water from outside of the egg to inside of it. Very interested to see how this goes. it would be awesome if it didn't and the pigment didn't hurt the babies at all
As an artist I naturally avoid letting red or orange paint sit in my hands for too long. Normally I wash it off right away. Even more so with oil based paint. I don’t think a colored sharpie will cause trouble but a good rule of thumb to wash your hands after working with orange or red.
Interesting experiment! If you go further, it would be better to ensure the colors are distributed randomly amongst the eggs, and if possible, leave a few blank for control. Another comment already mentioned the brand difference. PS. I can't wait for the all hatchling videos!! I love seeing the lil snakes poke their head out of the eggs :))
I’ve been watching you guys for at least four years now. Although I’m 13 soon and don’t know much, it’s been so fun to see you guys progress and build (I know those are the same thing) your zoo and animal collection. My favorite video of yours is when you put a camera in Rex’s room at your house. That one makes me laugh every time. I love you ed and Emily! ❤
I would be curious if you are experimenting if medical markers used by doctors to mark on peoples skin would create a better hatch rate. They come in a bunch of different colors and would be less toxic than sharpies to mark the eggs with.
My memory is slightly fuzzy, but I’m almost positive my surgeon used a black Sharpie to mark me for my recent mastectomy. (I remember weird stuff.)
@@VictoriaEMeredith Idk, my friend like drawing on her hands and arms and her Mom's a doctor so she got her these special medical markers for her to use.
Maybe medical markers are used on those with more allergies/chance of allergic reaction? Or those with asthma to avoid a potential problem in case of allergic reaction?
My surgeons always used sharpies also. And, I have 7 surgeries under my belt.
Emily, thanx to you and Ed, I have lessened my fear of biting snakes. I have always loved pythons. but venomous snakes make me nervous. I watch a lot of reptile vids now. Thannk you.
As an Irishman EVERY SINGLE TIME you say the date, I put it the other way than you mean and think you film in the depths of winter😅
A video without Ed in it, at this point with how often he's in videos now, is definitely a strange change of pace (for lack of a better term). It gives me a strange sense of nostalgia when it's just Emily on screen, reminds me of when I first started watching years ago when Ed was more nervous about being on screen. Yet, Still loved the video just the same as when he is here! I hope Ed got better fast from whatever he was sick with. I love these videos so much they make me feel so home-y. Thank you guys for continuing to produce videos! It would be my absolute DREAM job to work at the facility with all the animals and help out with the zoo if I didn't live so far. 😢
I'm so happy that Shakira and Dot have gotten all of there eggs out and that they're were no slugs 🎉 And I hope Ed feels better
I did a science experiment in school (6th grade, science fair) regarding food coloring and earthworms. I had 5 groups of earthworms: control (just banana, no peel), red (red food coloring mixed with mashed banana), yellow, green, and blue. The food coloring affected the coloring of the earthworms.* Based on how the eggs have gas and moisture exchange, I agree with the hypothesis that pigments could negatively affect the snake embryos. We also know that some humans have bad reactions to certain color dyes, so a snake embryo, in the most vulnerable stage of life, could be having a reaction to a specific color, or to an additive that isn’t common in black sharpies, but is common in colored sharpies.
*The following year, I testing the effects of natural pigments… don’t feed earthworms just maple leaves, they’re too acidic, they’ll turn a ghastly white and die. I was very upset. Natural pigments are often more diluted than my artificial pigmented bananas, so overall it was less obvious, but there was some differences in the colors beyond the bad reaction to maple leaves. Earthworms have no trouble with maple leaves in a larger environment, where the leaves decompose on the ground’s surface (rather than being buried in a 2 liter bottle) and rain slowly diffuses the acidic components. So, don’t try to add earthworms to a compost pile that’s solely maple leaves, but you don’t have to worry about the earthworms living under your maple tree.
Please don’t hold back the hatching videos, they’re the best things y’all upload lol
I just noticed that you are writing upside down on the box, and it is still neater than my writing. Impressive!!
I’m so excited to see all the beautiful babies!
I'm a biology teacher and I'm teaching my Y7s about the scientific method at the moment - so I'm going to use the second half of this video to show them some experimental design!
Awesome!
I’ve been waiting for this experiment for so long so glad it’s happening!
Also I love the most random pictures. I was watching another channel and it just wasn't the same when they just dotted the eggs.
I'm sad that incubating them in clumps didn't work because peeling them apart is so stressful, obviously you guys are super careful but I always worry one of the eggs is going to get torn
Someone mentioned that the different brands of marker used could affect the results, but so could egg placement within the container. Like next year when you pick a different colour, to scatter the colours instead of splitting them half and half so they're colour and black side by side so if something goes wrong on one side of the container it doesn't skew results
I know that nurses are now taught not to use markers on IV bags, because the ink can leak into the fluid.
Ngl I'm so excited about this experiment and thank you to the viewer who collected the past data to inspire this !!!
@13:45 I'm pretty sure that editing note wasn't meant to be left in there?
My snake just got out of shed🎉 she looks more like a grown hybino cornsnake now.❤love you guys!
Am I the only one counting 13? I guess it's a bakers dozen.😂
I counted 4 times because I thought I was wrong
If you don't acknowledge the unlock number, it doesn't exist...
I went to Reptile Gardens in South Dakota the other day for the first time as an adult. I’d gone many times before as a child, but it was so exciting to know about lots of the animals there in part due to your videos! Hopefully someday I can visit your zoo and be just as excited about all your critters!
For them to be even better control eggs, you should have mixed the positions because it could be one side of the tray being a bad condition.
"That's future Emily's problem." I felt that one. I frequently do that to future me. A little too often. 😅
Whoohoo! More baby snake eggs!🐍
Their going to be so cute!!!❤❤
I need to tell you but me and my brother have been watching you for 5 years !i think. i am so happy to see this i love ur vids me and my bro love snakes we find some in our back yard then feed them! i love you and ed
I didn't know the reason for the pennies in the water, and when I googled it it brought me back to the part of your own video from years ago where you explained it. Google knows... 😂 As a metalsmith what I can say about pennies is that since the copper ions that will have contact with the water and therefore will destroy microbes are the ones on the outside of the penny. So it's fine to use pennies newer than 1982, but if you use pennies that were minted in the past few years you may have a little less success because the tin is no longer just a core that's skinned by copper, but it's mixed into the whole penny. That's why pennies from the last 5+ yrs look brighter/lighter. It's due to the silvery gray color of the tin. I don't think that the tin should pose any toxicity risks, but I'm not an expert on snakes, so I can't say for sure. It does take a few hours for copper to actually kill bacteria, and you may just be better off using stainless steel bowls because it has a similar effect, but that comes down to a numbers game. You have to factor costs of bowls, cost of water, cleaning supplies, time, etc.
Neat! I’m learning a lot today.
Watching Emily play Incubator Tetris never fails to be incredibly entertaining ❤️😅
Those eggs look sooo nice~ awesome~👍
Thank you for sharing this video~🤗
I'm always amazed as how neatly you print when writing upside down. Lots of practice or natural talent? Love the science, and your energy!
I am sooooo happy that the bull snakes finally laid eggs yay
I don’t know why this is so cool but I love the snakes and channel
Oh noes! Hope you feel better soon Ed 💖
I love the genetics discussions, I raise corntix quails and breed for pattern/color, trying to eventually eliminate their patterns and have them as solid black or gray birds. Genetics is more fun than people give it credit for.
I don't think the marker is the issue. I think it's more related to just how many went bad last year due to mold. The mold is likely caused by too much stagnant moist air being trapped around the eggs. Not enough airflow will contribute to mold growth. I know you don't want them to dry out, but at the same time, mold is just as bad, if not worse than them drying out.
Healthy eggs don't usually mold you can have one moldy egg next to a healthy that doesn't. I've also seen some moldy eggs hatch with hatchling just fine, dedicated eggs, not so much.
Omg ive been watching for 6 yrs now but 2 yrs back i took a break , tou have gained so much!!!
What are the odds that it’s not only the color but maybe the brand of the marker?
Like maybe the way the marker company makes the pigment whatever they add to it could change what effects the eggs?
Because both markers are different brands.
It could very well be a marker brand issue. In that case, more likely than the color, it would depend on the specific formula. Is it a water based marker, alcohol, stronger solvents? That is the most concerning part in my opinion.
I’m afraid of snakes and reptiles in general,but you have get me interested by snakes and I love your videos.
They are so beautiful…
Thank you so much.
What’s with the editors note when marking the second clutch? Was that supposed to make it into the final edit? 😅 I didn’t hear what Michael heard.
Emily you were so gentle with taking eggs apart from the clutches well I see other UA-camrs just ripping them apart and sometimes popping
Hi Emily, loved the video as always! I’m also not convinced yet that the orange marker effect last year was more than a coincidence, but very interested to see the results of this experiment. The scientist in me did want you to use a template to make each square exactly the same size, but then again the eggs have varying surface areas due to being different sizes. Can’t always standardise everything!
The scientist in me also wants to randomize the placement of the orange and black squares!
@@yiyangliu4907 same XD
This vid has made me so grateful for Ed 🤣😂Emily u did great but the moving cam makes it feel like we are there with u instead of it feeling like a live stream but still love this vid ❤❤❤❤
Here's some ideas for things to mark on eggs if you ever need them:
A Portal themed clutch
A cereal themed clutch
A Wings of Fire themed clutch (I pretty sure Emily said she's read it once? And there are ten different types of dragons)
A continent themed clutch
A weather themed clutch (they may have done this already, I don't remember)
A rainbow clutch (if the experiment turns out not to be different with different marker colors) for pride month
A gemstone themed clutch
A minecraft themed clutch
Or you could try to guess what morph each egg is gonna be and write that on the egg XD
Did you just freehand draw a rose with a sharpie on a lumpy surface!? It looked amazing I can't even... ; - ;
Nice job filming this all by yourself, Emily!!! I'm impressed!! I'd struggle to do something like that, LOL.
Feel better Ed!!!
My theory about the different colors is the same as yours. I think it's really just a coincidence, and the color has no bearing on whether they hatch or not. I would be interested to see what happened if you didn't mark the eggs at all.
I don't think it plays a roll at all here. I think if they're gonna hatch, they'll hatch.
Ed and Emily You should try to get a Yeti hognose snake they look so cute and they good morphs
Hey Emily and Ed. What is the smallest and friendliest python you can own as a starter. I was recently holding w python snakes that were awesome, a banana cinnamon and a banana hiball and guessed the both without anyone saying until afterwards. Thanks to you and Brian Barczeck
I think thyat Ball Pythons are generally regarded as very good starter snakes and they don't get very large.
@@Riceball01 People say that, but back when I wanted a snake (it fell through), I was turned off by ball pythons' fussiness. I would definitely panic if they went on a hunger strike.
Ball pythons are actually not the ideal starter for most people, whether because of their fussiness or because they can be very sensitive to changes in their environment. Children's pythons, from the Antaresia genus, might be a better choice.
Found a blandings turtle making a hole to drop eggs in the middle of my yard in wi. I cant remember ever seeing one before 😮
Different colors usually means different chemicals... copper for example is often used for blue dyes and is technicly poisonous.
I'm not sure what pigments is used for your orange marker but yes it could affect the birthrate IMHO.
So I'm looking forward to this update and maybe even more testing with different markers. And maybe get to single out what chemical causes lower birthrate so we can avoid using it.
Instead of animal-testing they could have gone over the ingredients first... (you know, the "do your homework-part")
But it would not interest the viewers as much...
cant wait to see all the eggs hatch!!!!
"If you drop soap on the floor, is the floor clean, or is the soap dirty?" - I love the little jokes at the end of each video, but I think today's one was a bit backwards 😆
Love all you guys do at snake discovery.
how was it backwards? Did dropping the soap on the floor clean the floor or make the soap dirty?
@@pokyzard the one in the video says "If you drop soap on the floor, is the soap clean or is the floor dirty?"
@@alexandersproats31 oh lol. I didn't catch that my bad 🤣
Hi from Australia.. My 8 year old daughter is a big fan and watches all of your videos. 🐍
Ed get back to work! Hope he feels better soon
There's an editing note still in the video. 13:46 not sure if you want it there.
Looking forward to seeing how the experiment turns out!
Although, I do have to say, that’s a very small population to be basing the results off of. Do you plan on adding any other clutches to this experiment, or will you only be experimenting on the one clutch? I know you probably don’t want to risk too many experiments giving the monetary investments you’ve made into them, but a bigger sample size is always better.
Also, what other colors do you plan to experiment with in this fashion? You mentioned that this year you’d be experimenting with orange specifically, so what’s the second “worst” color you’ll be experimenting with (presumably) next year?
If all the orange eggs go bad, I think it's safe to say the orange marker is bad, but if they get good or ambiguous results I think they should definitely do more tests.
@@schrodingerscat3741 True, but did you also notice that the orange marker is a different brand compared to the black one? That’s another variable they accidentally introduced to the experiment too. Different brands use different ratios of ink, chemicals, etc. as well as different types of those various things (probably, anyways, not 100% positive). So unless that’s the exact same orange marker that they’ve always used, then that other variable could sway results as well.
Plus, and this is just being nit-picky, but they can’t really say that they’re experimenting with “Sharpies”, the brand, if they aren’t actually testing a Sharpie-brand orange sharpie, now can they?
@@cursed_ink I imagine they're testing the markers they've been using. They definitely need to take note of which brands they're testing too.
This sample will be too small to say for certain, but enough to make someone superstitious about that orange marker if they don’t hatch. Further testing can be done, paying more attention to the variables, once the possibility is ruled out or revealed to be a potential concern. This is like the background research testing, rather than the actual experiment, in some ways.
I have become a fan of Bull Snakes. I recently bought my first one. Named him Captain Bull. A sometimes sweet, sometimes fierce little snake friend. He is calming down now that he knows I will not hurt him.
if you go back and watch videos from previous years where you have used several colors on the same egg, you can see that the black color has remained on the egg without faded away, but everything other than black that was on the egg has faded away or was absorbed by the egg.
I think the colors don’t affect it at all. Also I can’t wait for babies to hatch! I’m sooo excited
I’m so confused about the 13 egg clutch being called a Dozen…
A bakers dozen is 13. They always make a test product. But I had the same question.
I think she originally miscounted and didn't realize until after it was already filmed. That's why in the edit they put "bakers dozen *" which is 13.
This is a sad day for me. I only encountered Snake Discovery a few months ago. I started at the beginning and over the last few months I've watched every one of your videos. I'm now officially caught up. The problem is, I now have to wait for you to post another video before I can watch a new one.