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- @gotquestions is conflating discipleship (service) with salvation and thereby preaching "another Gospel". God's FREE GIFT is not of "high cost" to those who receive it, that's both illogical and unbiblical. We receive the gift by grace through faith alone in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
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I fell into lordship salvation and then quickly fell into madness by realizing I did not have the strength to follow Christ perfectly in my actions. I had a full blown mental breakdown and then I found you and through watching your videos consistently I have found assurance in my salvation bc of what Christ did for me. Christ chose to save me, and gave me the faith I needed to be saved when I asked Him. Amen amen amen, God is great!!
I’m glad to hear you’re growing in assurance! Praise God
Me too I really couldn’t figure out where I was going wrong but I believe the lord led me to this video to clear up the madness 😭😭😭
So you can be saved w/o being a disciple of Jesus Christ?
Same.
Amen!
1. Salvation is a one time event
2. Discipleship is a daily thing
Yes, and that one time event is the cross.
LOVE IT!!!!! WELL SAID!!!!!
Salvation is not merely a one time event. Salvation, in its entirety comprises of Justification; which means forgiven for your past life of sin and saved from the bondage of sin. Next is Sanctification aka discipleship, which is the renewing of the mind to be like Christ’s and being prepared to be holy as God is Holy, obeying Christ and abiding in Him. The last is Glorification which is when we actually do acquire the inheritance of true salvation by receiving rewards and reigning with Christ with our new heavenly bodies. In the New Testament, you would realize these in phrases as Saved, Being saved and Shall be saved respectively.
Salvation is a race of faith, you’ve got to endure and finish it in order for you to be glorified.
@hilda abraham All will "finish it;" the elect 'now' and the rest later. 1Tim.4:10,Jn.12:32; Col.1:20; Phil.2:8-11; 1Cor.15: 22,28; Rom. 5:18 etc etc. It is a one time event of which mankind contributes NOTHING other than receiving it. Heb:5:9; 2Pet.3:15.
@@timothy4557 your verses absolutely do nothing to disprove my point. Tear my argument apart then we can have a discussion. Seems like you were trying to make an argument for universalism which would make your stance even worse because that’s fallacious at best. However, considering some of your verses like Tim 4:10 “This is why we work hard and continue to struggle, for our hope is in the living God, who is the Savior of all people and particularly of all believers.”
actually argues against your stance because it states clearly that we must STRIVE to achieve our final reward. Also, 1 Corinthians 15:22 “For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
Verse 23 refutes universalism because it clearly states those who belong to him will be the ones to be taken.
Now, address my earlier comment. Thank you.
No Christian will ever know true rest,and have confidence that Heaven is his eternal home,until he understands eternal security.
Why don't Lordship salvationists believe in eternal security?
@@theodoreritola7641 because they misunderstand parables and verses and context.
Amen!!❤
No one can be secure in their eternal life unless Christ is living their eternal life in them.
@@TheFightingSheep AMEN
Praise You Lord for bringing me out of this heresy.
Yes! Me too! PTL!
Amen, I spent over 30 years in that damnable heresy. It's sickening to even hear it now after nearly a decade later.
@@PerrynBecky same for me.
@@Disciple793 then you believe in faith plus something equals salvation.. this is literally every other religion in the world.. by grace we are saved.. we grow in obedience to Christ after but we are not saved or damned by our level of obedience.. we can still fear God bc we all must stand at the bema judgement seat of Christ but that’s for reward not for salvation
@@Disciple793 if u believe that u can't be forgiven then ur going to hell.
I used to rely on Gotquestions a lot. I would even encourage new believers to download their app. But once I started to understand grace and the finished work of the cross. And once I begin to understand the dividing line of the cross, I begin to realize more and more that Gotquestions on various scripture passages are out right false teaching and out of context. I still check out their articles from time to time but thank God grace opened up my spiritual eyes and understanding to so much.
GotQuestions has a lot of useful articles and can be a good first stop to get a broad overview of a lot of topics but you have to remember that they are Calvinists and are coming from a Reformed perspective.
Why does hardly anyone mention the importance of self denial on this site? Self denial has to do with obedience. That's precisely what God is looking for. Lifestyle thieves, for example, defiantly refuse to deny themslves. They are not born again. They don't submit to God and resist the devil. They still have a deceitful heart. Yet they still have the opportunity to heed what God teaches. However if there is no brokenness and contrition then there is an ongoing problem. People need to say yes to God, the teacher.
@@FaithinJesusisimportant What site are you referring to?
@@sorenpx
This site!
@@sorenpxBefore I ever heard of a Calvinist or knew what Calvinism was. I read the scriptures and came to the same conclusions. That Calvinist do so I don't see that as incorrect, this young man here believes the same thing as well.
When I was following along the lines of Lordship Salvation, I was constantly feeling not enough, and that God was not pleased with me, like I was not doing enough. I used to cry out to God because I was afraid of going to hell. But when I came across here, the Gospel was clear and not confusing. And I am so grateful for that.
@@dashriprock5720explain what that verse means, please. Also tell me how much fear and trembling is needed and how you know you’ve “feared and trembled” enough. Thanks, I’ll be waiting.
Why is Lordship salvation so different?
ME AS WEL TOTAL PEICE NOW
I would say that you didnt understand it propery,no one has to try to be perfect all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
I wonder if that guy understands the irony of him saying "give up everything you own." Did he do that? Did John MacArthur? It's so plain a little child could see it.
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Yea only people in the first world speak like that, puffed up from privilege
Not only haven't given everything up, but John MacArthur has million dollar homes, plural. Now I don't believe it's evil to own a nice home, but they believe it is. I mean Jesus said give up Everything. Not just a few things. Such cognitive dissonance. Otherwise known as hypocrisy.
I always wondered the same, as a former pastor of mine used to preach "counting the cost" and that it will "cost you everything." And yet he still had a house, family, cars, etc etc.
Your videos are clearing things up for me. And I've been reading the Bible for almost 40 years when I prayed to receive Jesus for who He is; God’s Son and the Savior of all who believe! God bless you!
Amen! Thank you for being sincere too. So many people are not sincere. Many people have been deceived by these men.
This guy is misleading the public to say that nothing is required by God for Salvation.
Jesus said that it is hard to be his follower.
Matthew 7:14
"For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."
Luke 13:23-24 also says that many will be rejected by Jesus:
"Then one said to Him, “Lord, are there few who are saved?” And He said to them, “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able."
Jesus said that there are requirements that one has to meet if they want him to accept them.
Luke 14:25-33
"Now great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and said to them, “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, ..."
Jesus said that their is a cost to find Salvation.
When Christians contradict Jesus by teaching that God requires nothing of us, they are decieved and are deceiving others.
Thank you for preaching the true gospel of grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
Amen! Discipleship vs Salvation should be separated.
I wish more ppl knew Abt this channel
What do Lord ship salvationists believe, And why do they think they are right?
Onorato explains the Scriptures more plainly than anyone else, including pastors that I have ever heard!
It is misleading the public to say that nothing is required by God for Salvation.
Jesus said that it is hard to be his follower.
Matthew 7:14
"For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."
Luke 13:23-24 also says that many will be rejected by Jesus:
"Then one said to Him, “Lord, are there few who are saved?” And He said to them, “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able."
Jesus said that there are requirements that one has to meet if they want him to accept them.
Luke 14:25-33
"Now great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and said to them, “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, ..."
Jesus said that their is a cost to find Salvation.
When Christians contradict Jesus by teaching that God requires nothing of us, they are decieved and are deceiving others.
Salvation is the "FREE GIFT" from God. Hallelujah.
Do Lord ship salvationist' believe salvation is a free gift? Who is the Real Christian ?
You say you are not against submitting to God yet when do you teach about doing this?Shouldn't people submit to God and resist the devil? Why then is a thief headed for hell? One reason is that he refuses to submit to God and resist the devil.
The BEST gift EVER
Is not a “free gift”!
JESUS CHRIST TELLS ME EVERY THING IN JOHN CH 3 VS 16 ENOUGH SAID
We become disciples after we ae saved. Not a condition to be saved.
How's that
He who believes on me hath everlasting life John 6:47 PERIOD
And they will; Phil.2:9-11
@@PinkyToe Isa.45:23
Lordship salvation believe in Jesus don't they ?
@@theodoreritola7641You should ask them.
AWESOME AND ACTS CH 16 Vs 30,31 same thing ..BELIEVE JESUS PERIOD IM A LAZY CHRISTIAN WHEN IT COMES TO SALVATION, I TAKE JESUS CHRIST @ HIS AWESOME WORD
The cross we all personally bear doesn't count for a whole lot compared to the cross of Christ. These men love twisting the scriptures to keep their flocks terrified and unsure of themselves and coming back for more. It's sad. God loves us immensely and he understands the human condition, which is why he sent His precious Son.
I was just explaining that to someone yesterday. “God understands our sinful condition”. He is NOT angry or disappointed in us because of sin. He’s only disappointed when we don’t acknowledge Him in our daily lives and abide in His love and guidance. He is not a hard task master, but a loving and patient Shepherd.
@@krissyyoung9264 Amen sis. His yoke is EASY. His burden is LIGHT. He is longsuffering towards us, and expects us to be the same with each other. God bless you and yours.
@@78LedHead And you and yours! 💕
I feel that way towards Grace as well
Brother, I love you! The Holy Spirit is using you to edify His saints in a huge way. Thank you so much for making His word so clear to understand!
To anyone that reads these words: Jesus Loves You. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Ecclesiastes 7: 20
I cannot understate how grateful I am to hear the truth of salvation. God is truly the only way to heaven and there is no man on this earth who can live a sin free life other than our Lord and savior Jesus Christ! I have struggled all my life trying to be good for Jesus. Only to fail time and time again. Then I found people like you, who reaffirm the gospel of salvation. That being the mercy of God and the FREE GIFT OF JESUS. HIS death alone saves us! NOT our ability to resist temptation! THANK YOU FOR SPREADING THE TRUTH! Godspeed my brother!
Yes, I agree. How can we experience peace with God, (as commanded) if we constainly wonder if we have done enough to earn our salvation. He paid it all, yes all, on that cruel cross. We add nothing!
@@davidkunze2770 Thank you brother. Godspeed to you. I'll see you in heaven one day my friend.
Salvation costs you nothing…Discipleship costs you everything
What does that mean ?
@@theodoreritola7641 Hi you are saved by grace alone, it’s free. To follow Jesus, discipleship, is works. You have to give up your life, everything.
YEPPERZ THE BLOOD OF MY REDEEMER PAID FOR 100 PERCENT OF ALL MY SINS THAT I WILL EVER COMMIT TELL MY CONCEPTION TELL MY LAST HEARTBEAT ON EARTH. HALITRUTHLA ...
@@theodoreritola7641 paid in full! Amen
@@theodoreritola7641 paid in full!
Amen brother, Believers are born. Disciples are made. They are not the same.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
Amen! Great thought. Disciples are made.
Where is that written? From what verses do you come to that conclusion?
@@heathobrien356 Believers are born can come from John 3 where Jesus tells Nicodemus, Ye must be born again. Jesus then tells him how in verses 14-16 that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
Disciples are made can come from Matt.28:19,20. The RSV starts it with, Go therefore and " make disciples". However, the KJV says, Go teach (the Gospel to) all nations, then baptize the believers( those who are born again when they believed the gospel), then teach them again. That would be discipleship.
@@trentthompson2899 , at what point is a disciple made?
This is absolute heresy: Unless you are His disciple you won't know the truth and the truth won't set you free - John 8:31-32
Keep preaching the truth brother! Salvation is by faith alone through Christ alone! If it was by our works then there would have been no point in Jesus coming to earth. Massive respect for preaching the real truth about salvation. So many christians have been preaching a false gospel.
Amen. God Bless. Joh 19:30 “It is finished”
Amen. How can anyone dare to even think that he can add to what Christ has done for us? They are saying it wasn't enough.
@@watchmansascha4764 Amen brother. When I hear that someone acknowledges the true gospel I get filled with joy. We will be with the lord soon!
We need more people like you deciphering the word of God like this.
I've been a believer for many years and sometimes struggle when hearing "faith cost's everything" type preaching.
Many Lordship preachers talk like they are trying to discourage the lost from accepting Jesus by telling them that they need to add works to salvation, how hard the Christian life is, that you must give up this and that to be saved, etc. All of that contradicts Matt.11:28-30.
@@raymatthews4319that’s why it makes me so angry about the likes Ray Comfort. He makes being saved and staying saved sound nearly impossible that so many people will just throw their hands up and think , “why even bother ? I will never achieve that level of perfection and sinlessness.” That’s exactly how I felt when I began to watch his videos years ago and walked away from anything to do with God or Jesus because I already felt like I was and would fail miserably at obtaining and maintaining my salvation. Ray should be ashamed of himself . A modern day Pharisee.
Thank God I learned the true meaning of being saved by grace through faith eventually .
It is misleading the public to say that nothing is required by God for Salvation.
Jesus said that it is hard to be his follower.
Matthew 7:14
"For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."
Luke 13:23-24 also says that many will be rejected by Jesus:
"Then one said to Him, “Lord, are there few who are saved?” And He said to them, “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able."
Jesus said that there are requirements that one has to meet if they want him to accept them.
Luke 14:25-33
"Now great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and said to them, “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, ..."
Jesus said that their is a cost to find Salvation.
When Christians contradict Jesus by teaching that God requires nothing of us, they are decieved and are deceiving others.
When you are Christian you are a disciple of Christ. As you grow in your relationship with Him you will continue to surrender your old ways to Him. You are giving things up for your relationship with Him. Discipleship is your sanctification process. Being a disciple isn’t being saved, it’s what you become after you’re saved. You become a student of Christ. A follower of Jesus.
These people are diluting the simplicity of the Gospel. John MacArthur does not determine how a person can be saved, Christ determined how to be saved.
The whole book of John explains that to us.
John 20;30-31
Thanks for exposing these liars.
Lots of people are following these people though, and even their website is full of much of this garbage ♻️ .
I just broke down in tears listening to this because I had no idea I was deceived for so many years. I know I was saved but I let these outfits convinced me I wasn't. And now when I listen, there are three things that I've observed 1. Lordship salvation is a tiny bit of leaven (one grain of yeast in one measure of flour)
2. One grain will "contaminate" the entire measure of flour
3. My soul is grieved for the bait these teachers lay out.
Bait is necessary to catch a fish. It is also a trick to the fish- come here for this lil tasty morsel....there's more where this came from. To expect everyone to be skilled fisherman to know which bait to reject and which bait to accept is like asking the fish if he knows which hook will get him thrown back into the sea for another swim or served as lunch later on that day.
These outfits bait you with the Gospel...of false Jesus. A snare. An entrapment.
Look around you. God is in Christ reconciling the world back to Himself, and they are arguing over Lordship Salvation, Calvanism and Armenism.
Remember Satan gives you two choices and they're both wrong. That's how you know they're from him!!
( I know for allegory purposes there were three things mentioned, but I think you understand what I mean. Another example: I use "discipline" as God's middle ground, which is where truth rests. Satan gives you two choices: beat the crap out of your child, or let them run the house and do whatever they want.)
But Jesus said those who are forgiven much love much. He also said if you love me you will keep my commands. He then said that his commands is to love one another as he has loved us. So, following Jesus as Lord is a result of true faith.
Lordship Salvationists would make good politicians or used car salesmen. They definitely speak with forked tongues.
How's that what do they believe different.?
@theodoreritola7641 Lordship salvation believes that if you don't make Jesus, the Lord of your life in absolutely everything. Which, Of course, we should, but we will always sin as long as we are in these bodies, and the lordship salvation camp believes that
Your work's demonstrate your. Salvation, but that's not necessarily true.
Yes, 'salvation is free' & Amen
Excellent pointing out of the error of lordship(works) salvation.
If anyone had an hour to ask all who believe in that false gospel certain questions, maybe they might see that they are way more sinful then they think. Especially if they would answer honestly about their thoughts which never seems to come up on works based gospels because all would rightfully fall on the sinful side.
Salvation is totally free, serving Christ will demand sacrifice which is why the reward for service is so precious and amazing.
You have been on fire lately! Keep it up brother
Great video and so refreshing to know this truth. Lordship salvation is works and sounds dreadful. God' grace is amazing! Praise the Lord!
What kind of work are we talking bout ?
@@theodoreritola7641Anything like reading God's word. Attending church being in ministry, etc. Living a holy life. Which obviously we are not against, but they put it as a requisite to show that you are saved.
@@theodoreritola7641I see you ask these little questions on almost everybody. Are you somebody who ascribes to lordship salvation?
IM SAVED BECAUSE JESUS CHRIST SAYS IM SAVED JOHN CH 3 VS 16 ONLY Or ACTS CH 16 VS 30 31 ,I HAVE BEEN REDEEMED ISIAH Ch 43 vs 1 he showed me personally. the real GOSPEL
I'm generally not a fan of Johnny Mac or gotquestuions. But Pastor Nelson at the beginning of this video made a lot more sense than the other guy and was very biblical. I got saved as a boy watching Billy Graham on TV and he challenged people to repent of their sin and commit their lives to Christ. I'm so glad I had a mama who was raised in an old fashioned style, mourner's bench, Baptist church and showed me the right way. Sure no Christian is perfect. We still need to learn, grow, go on into sanctifaction and greater discipleship.
How can one be born again, transformed by the power of God, made a new creature in Christ, a child of God, a citizen of Heaven and NOT be surrendered to the authority and Lordship of Jesus Christ. "God forbid. How shall we who are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"
My high school pastor summed it up well, "works are the fruit of our salvation NOT the root of it." I have more respect for some Catholics than I do some of these anti repentance/Lordship folks.
Billy Grahm did preach repent of your sins .That is incorrect. Correct ?
@theodoreritola7641 Billy Graham taught repentance of sin and of alter calls. He also instructed professes one's faith and the NAR (New Apolstolic Religion), albeit, in his latter years.
Child like faith, It is finished.....lordship salvation is the Gospel plus... Thanks Onorato clear as day!
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." - Ephesians 2:8-10 NIV. I always hear the voice of Dr. Charles Stanley whenever I read that verse. Listening to his sermons years ago is partly what led me to put my faith in Christ.
Yes, John McAuthur that wise man who denies the blood atonement of Christ and says a Christian can take the mark and still be saved.......
Yes, he is a blood denying antichrist Jmac 👍
@@PinkyToe he's got more than one I believe. His family has done pretty well also
Oh, it's worse than that. He believes we presently have an immortal soul and God is going to torture most of humanity endlessly.
@@timothy4557 Reformed theology is straight from the pit
@@anabanana7599 You got that right.
First, you must be under conviction, drawn to Christ by the Holy Spirit. I felt as if I was being given a choice to choose Christ or to reject him after years of running from Him. I knew that if I turned away and rejected Him it might be my last opportunity. I asked Jesus to come in and change me and immediately the feelings of guilt and stress left me. I physically felt it. That was almost 20 years ago and I am still struggling to be a true disciple of Jesus Christ, and although I stumble and fall a lot, I have NEVER lost my salvation. Like the Johnny Cash song, "I was there when it Happened"!
Amen! Good one Ono! Simple Gospel and simple explanation. God bless you bro!
We are not perfect. But we no longer live for ourselves but for the one who bought us with His blood. We are new creations created in Christ Jesus for good works. He is the prime mover. We can't earn our salvation. We can't earn His favor. We obey Him because we love Him And His commands are not burdensome to us. Please read your Bibles. Salvation is the gift of God and comes with a brand new heart!
Justification is once off, Sanctification is a life long process of learning to love the lord, showing the fruit of the Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit in ones life
I ❤️ Once Saved Always Saved.
Matthew 25:1-13, the parable of the 10 virgins, is indicative of the falsehood in OSAS. As you can read, these virgins all believed, therefore, they had salvation. However, as they awaited the return of their lord, they failed to keep their lamps burning - works in relation to slavation. Consequently, they were left outside, by whom, the very same lord they believed in.
Read all the verses regarding apostasy, which disproves OSAS. There are many verses that show that someone can fall from the faith and, thus, lose their salvation.
2 Thessalonians 2:3
1 Timothy 4:1
2 Peter 2:20-22
2 Timothy 4:3-4
2 Peter 2:1, etc.
Acts 8:9-24 tells the story of a convert who loses his salvation by trying to buy the powers of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 5:1-11 illustrate two believers who lied and, therefore, were destroyed by God.
OSAS is heresy!
Ps it's this confusion and double talk that troubles so many ppl. God bless you for helping distinguish the difference as there are few of us that do.
We're coming to Jesus in humility, contrite in spirit, with an empty hand that reaches out to Jesus with all of our heart and all our soul. We're coming to Jesus with nothing. Having nothing before Jesus, but a temporary life, knowing temporary pleasure, temporary relationships, false hope and false peace. We're trading a whole lot of nothing for a great big eternal Almighty God that changes our lives forever from the moment we meet and are set apart. If you think you have something holding onto worldly things, with the other hand dipped into a religion, you're a fool, worse than an unbeliever, that's the bottom line.
Thank you Norm for rightly dividing the message of the gospel correctly. Grace and Peace to you Brother"
Very precise and biblically accurate!
It's a very easy line to cross over. We also have to rightly divide the narrow meaning from the general meaning when our Lord Jesus is addressing certain groups. For instance;
He often speaks to His disciples regarding their duties to Him as their lord in the flesh. We are not 1st century Jews walking and following Jesus literally. Certain cults like the JW's believe they have to go door to door and continue to do the work Jesus sent His disciples to do. This may sound silly but it's true! Rightfully dividing the Word is so important and this can not be done by human effort alone. We need the Holy Spirit to guide us in understanding😁
God Bless!
🔴⚠️When someone criticizes another believer or another's statement...be sure to go to the source being referenced and listen to the WHOLE message YOURSELF, before concluding anything. Even more so, get to know the Word yourself - study the Word, in faith believing, using spiritual discernment with prayer, asking God to lead you into His truth.
Yes! Justification happens once and sanctification is ongoing. Lordship salvation is works based and is front and back loading the pure Gospel message of faith alone in Christ alone.
Love this! I needed this a long time ago. thank you again and again
Good job brother!
My brother, I'm enjoying these videos.
Faith alone - Ephesians 2:8-9.
Salvation - The debt has been paid.
Discipleship - There's a cost. Paul said "I die daily".
WOW!!! God has certainly touched you and your amazing understanding of his Word! Bless you, and please continue!! I pray for you and your ministry.
I really like your approach on these videos Onorato, Good stuff 🙏🏾
Amen brother!!! I’ve believed salvation was by faith in Christ alone but was very confused when I started hearing about LS salvation.
“Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone obeys his word, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him MUST live as Jesus did.”
1 John 2:4-6
Salvation and discipleship are not dichotomous. You’re saved to be a disciple of Christ. Discipleship must follow salvation in order for good fruit to be borne; any tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and burned. Who you find in heaven, are disciples of Christ , not those who just drew near to God with their lips.
Very simple and refreshing .
Holy Spirit fire. Praise God. Maranatha
Thank you for the clear distinction between salvation and discipleship it’s a very clear message unlike the false prophets double talk causing more confusion instead of understanding. God bless ✝️🕊🙏🏽♥️
MacArthur's "Gospel According Jesus" is a very misguided book. Check out Robert Wilkin's "Gospel of Doubt" refuting his book.
I live Bob wilkin!!
So they said to him, “What did He do to you? How did He open your eyes?” He answered them, “I told you already and you did not listen; why do you want to hear it again? You do not want to become His disciples too, do you?” They reviled him and said, “You are His disciple, but we are disciples of Moses. We know that God has spoken to Moses, but as for this man, we do not know where He is from.” The man answered and said to them, “Well, here is an amazing thing, that you do not know where He is from, and yet He opened my eyes. We know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is God-fearing and does His will, He hears him. Since the beginning of time it has never been heard that anyone opened the eyes of a person born blind. If this man were not from God, He could do nothing.” They answered him, “You were born entirely in sins, and are you teaching us?” So they put him out.
- John 9:26-34
Also even when Jesus talks about people not being worthy of being his disciple it doesn't mean one should give up on descipleship. People can get discouraged with dicipleship, because the cost is high, but even Peter wasn't worthy when he denied Christ 3 times, but he grew stronger later on. That also shows that salvation is different from discipleship, as Christ didn't abandon Peter when he failed as a disciple. Not only was there no loss of salation, but there was no loss of discipleship either. When Jesus scorns people who put their hand to the plou and look back he's not saying they can't be a disciple, only that they're not worthy to be one. He's just encouraging them to practice not looking back, and to get worthy as a disciple. It takes time to get that spiritually mature, which is why it's daily. No one is worthy as a disiple from day 1.
" The free gift that will cost you everything " ,is one of the worst oxymorons ever devised! No wonder so many are left in confusion and despair!
It's really strange that Calvinists actually seem to take pride in teaching contradictions. They seem to gloat over their own ignorance as if it is proof of spiritual enlightenment. It's creepy.
Gotquestions usually doesn't miss, but I found this video a couple weeks ago and I really got to rethink recommending this to people. This, and the fact they say that the Bible has errors and contradictions.
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The link I shared is a video in which GotQuestions explain the inerrancy of the Bible. They have never believed the Bible contains errors or contradictions.
@@ChristianConservative639Gotquestions does teach the Bible contains errors. They teach the doctrine of inerrancy, which explicitly states that only the original autographs of Scripture _were_ inerrant and that all subsequent copies are in fact errant.
@@jacobemmanuel4772 GotQuestions teaches that our Bibles (modern translations) may contain small grammatical issues, punctuation issues, or issues involving word order. These are called copyist/scribal “errors.” They do not teach that the Bible contradicts itself. The minor “issues” we may find in no way compromises Scripture as the original poster of the comment was implying. If that is not what he was implying then I apologize. Just want to clarify though that GotQuestions is not some progressive “Christian” website that says the Bible is full of holes and contradictions and can mean whatever you want it to mean.
Thanks be unto God for his free gift. Praise Jesus!
So sad they just refuse to believe Jesus is the only way. Can't have it both ways. Either Jesus or your works. I choose Jesus. So easy and so simple.
I came up with a term "Anglicized misconception" after seeing your other video where you give many good cross references in answer to "repent of your sins to be saved".
1 John 2:3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, 5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: 6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.
Thank you Onorato Diamante, you ARE SO RIGHT! MacArthur and Got Questions are both WRONG! I will never use Got Questions ever again. God bless you sir!
God bless you Brother 🙏🏼❤️
Excellent teaching
It is only a high cost to someone who desires to live in sin/follow their own heart more than they desire to live in Christ. The rich young ruler proves this.
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@@OnoDiamante I agree with your video. We appear to be affirming each other here. I also agree that faith is a free gift, however just because a gift is free does not mean that it is maintenance free. Faith is not a passive state but rather an active one. For example, God commands all followers to spread the good news. Willful and constant rebellion to this indeed puts one's faith in jeopardy. If you love someone and trust someone, you obey them. Constant willful disobedience and unrepentance is a sign contrary to both total love and trust. On the outside we can say hmm that person is probably not truly saved, but ultimately only God knows.
Bearing one's cross is in reference to the Christian walk of faith and the suffering therein. Saving Grace is indeed a free gift. But the temptation to throw that gift away for the world or for sin is an ever-present temptation until the day we die. Therefore, taking up one's cross is the active striving against that temptation and the abiding of one's self in Christ through following his commands, fellowship, scripture reading, worship, etc. no matter how difficult any of those may become. Indeed if a Christian does not take up his cross everyday, he is in the greatest danger he could ever possibly know.
Matthew 7:21-23 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
This verse is often misunderstood. Notice the part “never knew you”.
These are not born again believers who are saved by faith alone. If they were Jesus would have known them. They were never saved to begin with.
They didn’t put all their faith and trust in Christ, but rather relied on their works. They did. Or accept the free gift of salvation and instead wanted to earn it by right.
Transfer your trust from yourself and your works to the Savior!
I genuinely hope the best for you.
Shane
I like to explain it in this simple manner: Salvation is easy. Being a good Christian is difficult.
Thank you for making it so clear.
Yeah, gotquestions is chalked with this. The gospel message is good news to believed as we are hopeless without christ.
Your telling me,the free gift that has truly cost me everything,it seems the closer I try to get to him the more I lose,I'm very confused and afraid being I'm disabled and can only trust but it seems the more I try to believe the more that is taken,I have nothing left and it's making me fear him badly to the point that I think he's doing this for some reason,I don't want to think this way but I feel that I've been rejected by him which makes me panic,Lord I have nothing left to give,I love him and just feel he is no longer there,I still praise Jesus but am now deathly afraid of what's next
Este: God doesn't want you so fearful. What is it that you are "losing"? and why do think you are losing it? God does not reject anyone who is seeking Him (John 6:37). How can I help you?
@@beaglehawk50 ever since I renewed my salvation in God nothing but bad is happening to my life,I've lost everything needed to survive,my house,my health,my finances,my car my faith,I didn't blame God I praise him but every day it's something else bad,I'm really starting to fear the Lord has done this and it breaks my heart and soul,I'm also disabled so it's definitely a struggle for me and my family believing God will do a good work but he isn't as far as I can see,I've never in life felt so broken and abandoned as I do now,I've never tried harder to hear the Lord but there's nothing but more attacks from the enemy with no sign of God,I don't expect the world just the basic means of survival,I still praise and thank him every day,it just feels he's not there,I'm so ashamed I have lost my faith and trust in him yet I praise him,I could really use a miracle
@@estemaxon8545 i just noticed this post but what do you mean you renewed your salvation? Did you believe at one point, start a dedicated life towards God, but then backslid, became apostate, and God drew you back?
I’m disappointed in that website!! I used them many times in the past. I guess the bigger the website or presence online, the more Satan will try to corrupt the message.
I'll still use there website I found them to be very Biblical
@@Illuminate_identity
Apparently not everything is biblically correct. But then again, there’s a lot of ground to cover. Have you checked every topic in the database?
I’m not totally writing them off! But I’m going to be more cautious with their commentary.
They are very biblical.
You can use their website using your discernment. It's not all their teachings that are wrong but a new Christian must be careful to understand the foundation of the Good News first before venturing into websites maintained by Calvinists.
@@ErWo75 sadly when you investigate that website you learn quicky it is a staunch Calvinist website and they read their theology into their answers.
Amen bro, Lordship salvation is rank heresy, nigh Roman Catholicism, and front or backloads the Gospel. Typical Lordship salvation can not distinguish betwixt salvation and service. God bless.
Wouldn't discipleship go hand in hand with sanctification? Your justified thru faith in Christ and then a lifelong process of sanctification takes place until you are put in a glorified body.
So thankful for Jesus and his free gift.
Salvation is free. Discipleship is costly.
Love your channel....Just a question about the verse...If you right arm causes you to sin, it is better to cut it off than than not entering heaven...or something to that effect, Does this mean that believers who enter heaven, must cut of their sin before they enter heaven? Thank you!!!!
Jesus is emphasizing the severity of sin’s consequence (Hell) and the standard that must be met (perfection). If the law must be kept AT ALL, then ALL THE LAW must be kept. We need the imputed righteousness of God himself which is by faith in Jesus Christ.
@@OnoDiamante thank you
Your videos are very encouraging to me and a real blessing in my life. I am sure they have also been a blessing to so many others who have been deceived by the confusion caused by Lordship Salvation preachers.
How is Lordship salvation different they sound a lot alike to me
@@theodoreritola7641Lordship salvation focuses on Performance, rather than on the finished work of Christ.
I have been loving thees videos.
I would love for you to go over the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Aka Mormons . One day !
Amen! Keep preaching truth!
Great exposure onorato God bless you so much
I find better theology in my newborns diaper.
Awesome video brother🎯 spot on.
Brother Diamante kudos to you stay the course and don't ever waver
Thank you so much for this! Your channel is now my favorite on UA-cam now.
The title is well put and true. Cheers
You cannot be saved and not be a disciple when you are saved it comes with the free gift to disciple as they were told to go out and preach the gospel to the four corners of the Earth as they have been told also that one has five talents another had two and the other had one the one who had one Talent was the lazy servant and he buried the gift in the ground and accused his master of being a hard man
Amen
Brother Onorato please do a video to help us understand the meaning of the word “save” in 1 Timothy 4:16. Thank you.
I was just warning about got questions. I don't allow it in groups that I admin.
Problem is that we all cling to our sins, no matter how much we think we have turned from them.
So, if we can't cling to the saviour and our sins simultaneously then nobody has ever been saved or ever can be saved.
So, you think our Savior and Lord is so weak that he can’t change our heart and desires to love Him more than the things of this world? That’s what it means to be born again. Romans 6:6, 11, John 14:15-24
@@troy4544 never read Roman’s 7?
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Yes, and I understand how sinful we are when compared to God’s holy standard. But I also believe the sanctification process happens. We become more like Christ daily. I know my desires have changed to seek the Lord instead of things of this world (material, entertainment, music, etc.). The Lord has power to deliver us from sin and selfish desires - 1 Cor 10:13, James 1:13-15
@@troy4544 A changed life is not automatic, that takes complete cooperation with the Holy Spirit.
It doesn't just happen!
@@troy4544 I never said anything about Jesus being weak.
You are just backloading works into the gospel message and attributing them to God.
I serve God faithfully out of love and gratitude for the free gift of salvation.
A changed life is not automatic, that takes complete cooperation with the Holy Spirit.
Your changed life as proof of salvation is just another cleverly repackaged version of faith plus works equals salvation nonsense.
Your new birth absolutely cannot sin.
Your flesh certainly can still sin hence why we are encouraged to walk according to the Spirit and renew our minds daily all throughout the New Testament.
Backloader!
Works can't save us, but Christians in the West often greatly minimize the importance of works. Well done (works) my good (works) and faithful (works) servant (works). Faith without works (works) is dead. Ye shall know them by their fruits (works).
Good stuff brother. Question: Why would someone with real saving faith not want to be His disciple? Not to follow him/ be his disiple FOR salvation but as a result of salvation, through faith in his blood. Maybe it is not God's will for that person, but if we truly understand the glory of the gospel, it seems like it would control our hearts and make us want to follow Christ out of love, and out of the fact that we have been redeemed. All else would be vanity. 100% facts that realizing our sinfulness, and inability to save ourself, and having faith in Jesus being the propitiation is what saves. Faith in Him alone. I guess what I'm asking here, is what determines real saving faith? Someone saying, "Im a sinner, and I believe in Jesus's sacrifice and resurrection" and then someone saying "you are saved" Id be cautious of this. The heart is deceitfully wicked and I'm not sure that we can trust ourselves and our sincerity sometimes. Would probably be better to say, "You had made a profession of trusting in Christ, now lets see if you (as 1st John puts it) walk in the light, confess your sins, obey Christ (not perfectly but a gradual sanctification), have love for the brethren, hate the world (not literally but you know what I mean), have perseverance in the word, and see if the Father discipline's you. I can't seem to wrap my head around people that claim to be saved in Christ, but live as if Christ gave us no commands. Not that keeping his commands are what saves, but their profession of Christ and their contradictory lifestyle almost blasphemes the name of the Lord. They know for a 100% they are sinners, most do and admit this. They claim that Christ is the savior of the world, but they live in love for the world, and in obvious, physical sin (I say physical meaning not sins of the heart or mind or motive) but blatantly obvious sins that you almost have to go out of your way to commit. Now I sin everyday whether it be in my selfish motives, lust, not loving God as I should, greed, hate, slothfulness etc. But I for sure strive to stay in the word as it gives me great power over sin and great peace, and I've seen a dramatic shift in my desires, my will, and my sensitivity to sin. I feel massive conviction and discipline from the Father when I stray away. I have a natural desire out of love, to obey Christ, not trying to earn salvation as I know i'm already guilty. The Bible says that those the Father does not discipline, are not his own children. So it seems to me that people that profess Christ, and intellectually understand the doctrine but then can live in opposition, never have the slightest desire to pray or read the word, seems like they should re-examine their profession. Maybe its from a lack of understanding the true gospel in its entirety (Romans 3 being a good place to really dig into) it just doesn't make sense to me. I agree with grace through faith. The Lordship people saying you have to eliminate all of your sins to be saved is works. I just wonder where the correct line is/ what is the actual saving faith that produces obedience. There has to be something im missing here, or maybe its just not correct preaching of the gospel and of Gods attributes ie his justness and the real need for a propitiation. OR His actual love for us. IDK sorry for the rant hope you read this. God bless
Make it plain and simple 💪🏾
What about phillipians 2:12 telling us to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling"?
Mark 8:34-37 indicates total surrender and JESUS in Luke 13:24 th strive to enter and again it Mt 7:13,14 that few people make Heaven!!!!!
You’re conflating service with salvation. ua-cam.com/video/QdMwQnalrWY/v-deo.html
When Jesus spoke any words we have wrote down it is under the law,
the new covenant did not even start until after his death burial and resurrection.
I do not understand how so many people who claim to know the bible can not understand this very important fact,
that is where a lot of confusion comes in.
No one gets saved without becoming a disciple. The great commission is to make disciples. Jesus is Lord. We don't make Him Lord. Which of His commands are burdensome to you? Salvation is not of works. It is by believing the Lord Jesus. No one says Jesus is Lord but by the Holy Spirit. If He is not your Lord He is not your savior and you are still in your sins. The religious leaders did not submit to Him Do not listen to this man. He is teaching lies. Read the sermon on the mount. Jesus said why do you call me Lord and do not the things I say? Those who keep willfully sinning will be rejected by Jesus on the last day. Salvation is a free gift. But his sheep DO here His voice. Jesus was not deceiving you. Salvation includes a change of heart. You have a new heart and new desires if you are born by the Spirit. Your acceptable act of worship is to be a living sacrifice. He who says I know Him but does not obey HIs commands is a liar. How can you say you love Him and hate His commands? His words. The words of life. Father help them see. Let one see. The one who needs repentance. Let them see!
Shawn, you should probably learn to read the Bible in context and rightly divide before you publicly and fervently plead with God to make others agree with your view that is opposed to the Biblical Gospel.
@@CJ-lr4uq I understand your concern for I believe you are being sincere with me.