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- US President Joe Biden said on Wednesday that Washington would provide Ukraine with 31 Abrams battle tanks , but said the delivery could be a lengthy process.
"Delivering these tanks to the field is going to take time. Time that we'll see and we'll use to make sure the Ukrainians are fully prepared," he said. Senior US officials earlier said it would take months, not weeks.
Announcing the decision in remarks at the White House, Biden said the move was not "an offensive threat to Russia."
He said the Abrams tanks were needed to help Ukrainian forces "improve their ability to maneuver in open terrain."
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Correction: The M1 Abrams MBTs are not able to operate on jet fuel alone. Rather, the M1 Abrams' unique gas turbine engine can use a variety of fuels - including jet fuel.
Thank you. Do the research FIRST then blather on.
Yes , Many have Not reported that Point.
Remember, using jet fuel gives you accurate range on a full tank. Kerosene would also give accurate range. It is even possible to fill with 150+ proof vodka. Using gasoline or worst, diesel, will lower range of the tank. The US needs to deliver 4-5 HEMTT fuel tankers, 2 Recovery vehicles, and a 120’ Bridge vehicle to support the Battalion.
@MSD Group Decouple from the West? Other countries around lack the national discipline to put greater long term wealth over short term local wealth.
Every US State was its own country. They submitted voluntarily to Federal rule.
Europeans since WW2, have given up some national sovereignty to create a greater wealth common market. EU countries just do not yet know how much local sovereignty they will surrender to form a more perfect Union.
Russian’s believe their greatest strength come from militarily dominating other countries, SSRs and local autonomous ethnic minorities. They do not yet see strength through greater integration, military submission, and using their force of arguments to succeed.
Africa has not gotten past colonial legacies.
Asian and South American countries are too jealous of each other mirror Europeans in forming the EU.
Decouple? Hahahah!!!
So sad or bad that journalists do not know the facts nor do they know where they talk about.
It is more like wanting to say something for the sake of saying something. ...pfff! 🙈
Completely missed the credit to the U.K which started the whole ball rolling.
Indeed, but then this is DW..... hardly going to advertise that Germany had to be TOLD to pull its finger out. Especially by the UK that left the EU.
Do not worry, Putin will know all about Challenger 2 tank very soon.This is all that matters.
@@occamraiser wdym, dw has constantly had ppl on that are complaining about scholz for months
Right …. Thank You
This is not a miss universe competition.
US "joins" Germany in sending tanks? I think what you mean is the US committed to sending tanks so that Germany felt comfortable sending their tanks. Once again, Germany does not wish to lead, they wish to follow.
Thank you! Finally someone with a brain. I hope this comment gets more likes
Except neither Germany or the US are following eachother, Both are following the UK.. lol..
The last time Germany led, it led to ww2... just saying.
Except US outright said no to sending Abrams gave excuses and lied that it runs on only jet fuel not diesel. After Germany agreed to send their tanks now US has changed their narrative about Abrams
Personally for me, Germany and France are the greatest disappointments of this war. Not only they "missed" sending sanctioned component parts for Russian war equipment since 2014, they were the indecisiveness at its core!
I wish these 2 plus the US had the same vision over Russian true war capabilities as Poland and Baltics had had for years. The war could've ended by now with total Russian retreat from Ukraine. Russian state is just a zombie. the fairy tales left after USSR should've ended once the world saw they can't even protect the strategic airfield in Engels.
Just give ukrainians all they need for the victory, and let Russian live in their legit borders under putin for 100 more years. They deserve it completely!
My guess is that they've been training Ukrainian tank crews already for months.
yea, during the "Bradleys" training
@@saltymonke3682 Exactly. Just like that SEAL killed was a deserter.
Yes people thinking ukrainian troops haven't been trained to use western tanks and jets since the war started are silly. In face it makes sense that by around 10 months into the war we are having the first discussions about sending tanks to Ukraine... almost like we've been training Ukrainains on how to use them this entire time and are about to be ready for use. Notice how discussions about sending f-16s are starting now too. Its all in the timing
The Abrams actually can operate with 490 gallons (1,850 L), allowing the tank to go about 265 miles (426 km) without refueling. The turbine engine works with a range of fuels, including ordinary gasoline, diesel fuel and jet fuel.
ok
But they are a nightmare to maintain. Now they're going to find out the hard way.
I'm curious how does that JET fuel withstand a Russian projectile ..
that is bigger than a t-90 capacity but way less range.
I was a m1a1 mechanic, they can also run off high proof vodka, in a pinch.
The good thing about Leopard and Abrams is that they use the same ammo, since they use the exact same main gun.
and the same fuels.
All NATO tanks use the same ammo . The British gun is the same size just rifled Abrams leopard smooth bore.
@@stubstoo6331 - Challenger 2 can't use ammo for smooth-bore guns, right?
@@cacogenicist It can.
Egobusta ya…can they take a direct hit from tactical nukes, because it’s coming hug your kids tight because you’ll watch them burn soon
The whole world is looking at your action, instead of stopping the war you are dragging it to the extreme.
It so unfortunate how the western world are using Ukraine for proxy experiments with so many lives in six feet.
Why don't you blame russia? They could easily leave ukraine and there will be no war. Allowing Russia to win = more countries developing nuclear weapons.
I will blame Russia, when NATO will be dismantled, instead it's still expanding.
Stop fighting and mend ties, it is affecting the whole world
No one is talking about the 58 tanks Spain will send. And Portugal will send 4. 62 tanks from the Iberian peninsula. That's a whole batallion of tanks.
Good, more is always welcome. Thanks to all contributors
Tanks a plenty!
Thank you for the info, I can understand how you feel, most people are ignoring the 14 tanks we can spare also..
Abrams have a AGT1500 multi-fuel turbine, The Honeywell AGT1500 multi-fuel turbine can run on just about any engine fuel out there, gasoline, diesel, marine diesel, JP-8 and more.
like Leopoard 1 and 2 as well, plus Marder Schützenpanzer √
@@MakeSomeNoiseAgencyPlaylists I went to the Leopard repair facility in Darmstadt for a tour in 2006. They were rebuilding the Leopard diesel engines and they are massive.
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
If the Ukrainians burn diesel instead of JP8 in their Abrams, will the need for hot gas inspections be sooner?
Home heating oil will also work.😎
How many times do I have to say. THE ABRAMS CAN RUN ON DIESEL like our Australian Abrams do. Any fuel that combusts including channel no 5. Both Leo 2 and Abrams have 1,500 BHP engines and is as fuel efficient as Leo's engine once moving. Just weighs a bit more. What about bridge layers Ukrainian bridges support 45 T max and engineers need to be trained with equipment too. Hercules are needed too.
Do they not share a similar weight? Leo2 is up to 67 tons, depending on the version.
But having more than one petrol kind per one gas station is a problem and also deliverying more than one type of cargo is a logistical mightmare.
DON'T YOU KNOW ?
@@zahgurim7838 I believe they’re in the ballpark of 70-75 tons? 🇨🇦🇺🇦
@@emilgil1490 Which is why the Abrams' ability to run on the exact same of fuel as the Leopard 2 - and more - should make logistics easier, not harder.
@@jessehachey2732 Oh, ok. Pretty heavy.
Wishing Ukraine a Happy "Tanks" giving 🦅
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
😂😂😂😂
Spreading Freedom since 1776!
Haha, best joke of week. You'll be mobilized to the frontline, as a prize.
If you see Russians driving our vehicles and Germany vehicles, you know who to blame
Iraqi oil?
DW says that the M1 needs jet fuel, and I'm gonna cry. It takes: jet fuel, petrol and diesel as well as naval fuels. It basically drinks anything that you give it. The US uses jet fuel for logistical simplicity.
Yep, it’s to simplify the logistics. The US uses jet fuel because Blackkawks , Apaches ,A10s and F16s also use JP 8
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
You have to be careful about taking everything on DW for the honest to God truth. I've noticed they get some important facts wrong occasionally. They eventually clean it up but 1st impressions are sometimes wrong. All the same war criminal Putin has no chance up against the free people of the world!
And reliability, It will run on other things, but will need servicing more often..
Good Job Germany. Thanks for the Help!
Yes, let's give Scholtz a weak round of quiet applause, in proportion to his commitment.
He did this because he HAD to, not because he WANTED to. He's a pro russian coward - as are a big chunk of the German public unfortunately.
@@occamraiser Who thought Germany would be this involved with a war against russians a year ago? Despite it feeling like a long time coming its a big step in the right direction.
@@occamraiser Conspiracy theory, nothing more without proof. And no, German public is not pro Russian, alot might be scared, but that does not make them pro Russian.
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
@@occamraiser wtf how can someone be so delusional. Please think before you write such bs. Im losing my hope in humanity
Used by a well trained crew with proper support, the M-1 Abrams is formidable. But, probably not the best choice in such limited numbers.
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
40+ tanks is a battlalltion of tanks - that's enough to equip a combined arms brigade - assuming your have a couple/few mech battallions to go with it - and the US is also supplying enough Bradleys to field those mech battallions.
Don't worry by the end of the year they'll probably have over 100.
The Abrams aren't even going to be fielded for about a year. They are being built new with the top secret components removed or replaced. Best estimates put delivery at the start of 2024.
Our initial announcement was for 50 bradleys and we already doubled that in a few weeks. We'll probably send more over time.
You guys might be wrong about the "jet fuel" for the Abrams.
According to Wikipedia, it can use a wide variety of fuels: Jet, Diesel, Gasoling... it would probably even run on vodka!
Only needs to be flammable and thin enough to pump. Differing fuels give differing power levels as they burn at differing temperatures and differing burn rates. (Kinda like the old battleships running on diesel near shore or "asphalt" (bunker fuel) that must to be heated in order to flow while at sea.)
But can it run on Sunflower Oil?
@@Superior1995Rex yes it can
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
@@javierfrancia1938 Hi, Igor. Copy/pasting again?
A lot of the criticism of Scholz isn't because he outright refused to give tanks to Ukraine, it's ironically because he didn't. Lots of indecision, contradictory statements (especially about Marder earlier last year) and generally poor communication left a lot of people unsure what was happening.
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
It's a highly temperamental situation though. The Marders where ins torage so you first need to check if they work etc.
Kinda weird to expect the right answers instantly.
@@nonyabisness6306 Until you factor in that those same marders were offered to Greece.
An outright refusal would have been more despicable. The real irony is that his utter spinelessness ultimately led to his capitulation and hence a desirable result.
@@nonyabisness6306 Instantly? Russia invaded Ukraine almost a year ago! If Russia invaded Germany, wouldn't Germany expect their allies to supply military aid as soon as possible?
Old Leo's-1 are also welcome. Thank You Germany!
Leo 1's would be very easily damaged by RPG fire.
@@Ithorn110 leo 1 was designed with not being hit in mind. Weak armor.
They would still be welcome, nonetheless... more tanks the better. What else are they going to use the Leopard I for?
@@joetuktyyuktuk8635 museums
@@wokeaf1337 The russians have been forced to put the T-62 type back into production, as they have no modern equipment to build any other tanks. The Leopard I is still useful against those.
I was an m1a2 abrams crewman and all i can say is they better send a bunch of general dynamics land division personnel with them, because an abrams tank is very technical and can sometimes require alot of maintenance and upkeep, especially the electronics!!
In other words a Lemon
If held to the positions both tanks are better suited for they will be an epic combo.
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
I disagree with the American General (I am an American, so I feel free to do so.) He really says the Ukrainians will not be up to the task. All of his objections should have been dealt with before the agreement to send the tanks. He is overlooking the morale boost of the tanks and the ability of the Russians much like our President Biden to screw up anything.
American GIs are hand-selected geniuses. Ukrainians are just regular guys defending their country.
I have a feeling that F-16's are right around the corner.
And A-10 Warthogs…
And 1 Russian out of orbit nuke 💫
@@dwp912 A10s without f16 is pointless but if the US pulls the trigger on f16 they will supplement each other well.
...And our UFOs
I doubt I’ll see you four knuckleheads volunteering after this thing goes full blast
Even though the "gas turbine" engine is thirsty, it's rotoary design allows it to be more reliable, more compact, longer service life and create much more horsepower than combustion engines of similar size. They also don't create as much vibration making it easier for the tank to aim and hit its target.
I think neither country wanted to take the risk of the kind of escalation sending the main battle tank would represent alone. The conversation on the back channels would probably have been I’ll do it if you do it.
You know, if Russia withdraw from Ukraine the war ends…
Do you believe Russia will withdraw from Crimea? They will only withdraw if they are pushed out.
Russia ain’t going down in history for taking a L
No way, too many people are making money on this snafu.
Ocampo…They took one In Afghanistan
But Nato always moved closer to Russian territories not respecting the agreement between Gorbachov and Reagan
A few days ago I thought Germany were stalling and being indecisive, and now I'm starting to think they handled this situation really well.
They did it because Poland threatened to give away their Leopards without German permission and buy US Abrams to replace them.
@@darkspire91 Nah. Poland was already planning to buy the Abrams anyways, and breach of contact would have impacted their ability to procure foreign military equipment as the government would've been considered unreliable to stick to national security considerations. Remember that PiS announced this "threat" before they even bothered to ask Germany for approval -- meaning it was just political posturing.
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
@@javierfrancia1938 Yes 😣we get it,already.
@@ddshiranui PIS bad derangement syndrome ?
maintenance crew and mechanics for the tanks that's what makes the difference
I like that part where they said "Sholtz is leading the way" :]
Cheers US and German!
Thanks, cheers to you and yours, we got this.
AND uk!!!
US and Germany trying to start WWIII
@@alanhowitzer we are already in a war
@@alanhowitzer Go away, troll.
Good wishes to US and Germany. May god bless Ukrainians.
God, not democracy, makes this go. The population is against it but the might is impossible to oppose.
Thank you, best luck to you and to our Allie’s.
Lets Go BRANDON 🇷🇺🇨🇳
Let's not forget uk we were the first to commit to sending tanks after all
@@Booz2010 lmao just… why?
Great questioning and excellent guest. Thanks for this program.
Abrams is a multifuel vehicle, commonly it uses diesel. Its 1,500hp Honeywell turbine engine can burn a variety of fuels including diesel, jet fuel, gasoline.
Solar atop the turrets aswell
I wonder how well it runs on regular gasoline
@@rreece90 smoother but will consume more fuel per hour than JP
Thanks for noting the multi - fuel capability. I had to look that one up, and found content supporting your statement.
There are likely downsides to not running jet fuel, like higher maintenance, lower horsepower and torque, lower fuel efficiency etc.
@@gregparrott It is a minor difference. Gasoline was blended with airforce jetfuels for many years because it is easier to ignite if the engine needs to be restrated at cold high altitudes.
Germany doesn't have nukes. They were afraid that if they provided the Leopards without the U.S. also doing it, that Russia might feel inclined to attack Germany. As ridiculous as that sounds, I feel that this was exactly why Germany forced the U.S. to agree to send M1 Abrams tanks with German Leopards. Even if the M1s aren't going to work well in Ukraine, the other Leopard 2s and Challenger IIs will. Who knows, perhaps the M1s will be able to work better than thought. After all, they were designed to fight Soviet tanks rushing through the Fulda Gap.
The German military are trained to use U.S nuclear weapons as is Italy and Japanese military.
Plus, Germany needs those tanks for self defense far more than the USA does.
@@weswilkins2513 well i can agree with that. US has thousand tanks + protected by 2 oceans, so the only real threat would be mexico or canada, canada is NATO ally and tied closely with US while mexico is also economically tied with US so basically the real threat would be illegal immigrants and drug cartels.
Yes, they do. They have an undisclosed number of US made B61 nuclear bombs that can be delivered by the Luftwaffe's Tornado IDS fleet.
About time😉 when Russian trolls are so active, you know its pretty important for an offensive punch.
precisely
NATO is at war with Russia 🇷🇺
Its really an insult to humanity and Ukranians that Germany has obstuated Leopard tanks for 10 months.
Many lives are on your hands. It matters little if you send medical aid. Its like putting plaster on a childs wounds instead of protecting it from the bullies that keep attacking day after day.
So very pleased we’re sending tanks!!!! Train them well and quickly 😊
Happy to see more people die? Nice.
Dreamer..
The M1 tanks can be used better defensively especially against counter offensive. The Leopards are better for many reasons.
The two are complimentary when used appropriately.
And we're giving them to a country that uses T-72's at best....think they'll figure it out? Hope they're stripped down versions IE Base models of both
@@other4819 theyll be trained first. Theyve been in the us for months training on abrahms, f15e, a10s etc its just not talked abt too much.
@@other4819 simple mechanics. if they can operate a t72 it won't be that hard to transfer to another system considering they'll be trained by those who actually operate them.
@@other4819
They have been training and will train more on the new tanks.
@@other4819What do you mean stripped down versions. I don't know about the US but Germany does not have a cheaped out export version (like T-72) the tank only differ in their upgrade package. You get essentially what the German army uses.
We will finally get to see M1 Abrams destroying the out dated and obsolete Russian garbage tanks, what they were originally designed for.
Did the trash cans destroy the Abrams? 😢
It like goin from a pistol in the dark to a 50cl with night vision a lot different it will make
The Abrams powertrane will run on jet fuel or diesel. It is one of the reasons this motor was chosen for the Abrams.
The US stepping up to preserve unity, that’s what is most important. It will be worth analyzing why Scholtz was so adamant about this, what he was afraid of that caused him to override the advice of military experts, so that we can as a union and NATO learn from it however. Because obviously as a civilian I don’t know even a fraction of the facts, but from the outside looking in this seemed like some unnecessary internal conflict between allies
Germans still have issues about being seen as aggressive due to their history but they want to support Ukraine's democracy. They have every right to take their place in European leadership as a modern democracy. This is good for Europe.
NATO Is I’ll democratic countries made up of different people serving who elected them.. that’s the great part about democracy you can disagree and still be effective and get things done.. let’s think about why RUSSIA hates the west.. we have unity through varieties of opinion.
@@hunterrichardson9605 You're really f***** u*
...at 2:35 ...how do we explain to the public this 180ª?, how do we tell the taxpayers that we have no plan, no strategy, and no confidence in Ukraine?
@@javierfrancia1938 copy paste bot don’t pretend it’s your country paying the price for anything.
Correction: 1 tank and 30 extra for spare parts.
OK -will be interesting to see how they do(the m-1'S)
It will take time to get Ukrainian soldiers trained on these tanks. The key to a tank being successful on the battlefield is having a well trained crew operating it. You have to know all of the tanks strengths and limitations. It's not rocket science but it is complicated. Probably at least a couple months to train dedicated, motivated soldiers.
they just going to put troops with experience on them and believe me they have experience on the older ones like industrial scale level there guys who had 50-100 fights by now they know what they need and dont have
im pretty sure the U.S has been training ukranians to operate the tank for the last 10 months along with germany
Knowing not only western equipment but as well exactly what are doing the guys in Russian equipment is knowledge that Bruce Lee would call a "opponent's motor getting started".
You need to know how to maintain and fix what you can in the battle field also as well as recovery techniques for when the tank gets stuck.
The Abrams is a SERIOUSLY high tech piece of equipment that is actually closer to rocket science than most people think- it uses a jet engine. We probably will not see Abrams used in Ukraine until 2024 just because the logistics of supporting Abrams in theater need to be built; most likely the deal that was reached was to build factories in Germany and Poland, double our fracking back home, and something else I haven't been able to determine.
My guess is that the US was hesitant because they did not want to send less than 500 Abrams.
M1 Abrams tanks can be easily adapted to burn diesel
Do you even check facts? "The most recent M1 model holds 490 gallons (1,850 L), allowing the tank to go about 265 miles (426 km) without refueling. The turbine engine works with a range of fuels, including ordinary gasoline, diesel fuel and jet fuel."
Appreciate it. Long live Ukraine
Send 300 tanks and NOW!
@Radojica Radulj just wait for the local news, RuZZia will start regrouping soon, again
Russia has over 13000 tanks and a similar number of armoured vehicles.
@@hobo1975 because they have no use in life than fighting.
Why does everyone say that the M1 Abrams need Jet Fuel. Just because it has a jet engine, it doesn't mean it can't run on diesel. All jet engines are multi-fuel and will run on anything that burns
JP8 runs the entire US Army lol
You were doing so well until that last sentence. The Abrams' turbine can burn kerosene, diesel, or gas. That's not true of all jet engines.
Because these talking heads feed off each other. CNN and MSNBC (and probably more) have said the same thing. They hear it, don't bother to research it, and pass misinformation as fact.
@@justin4911 Is there a performance or maintenance difference between fuel types used?
It's not really jet fuel kerosene.
These tanks are few and not enough. What i see here is just to save face.
oh wow. the iconic abrams main battle tank will see action again.
Lets go Ukraine 🇺🇦💪❤️
14 tanks yeah lets goooo lmao 🤡
@@MrVova79Multiply this by 10 at least. Vovan rogapan 🥴
@@MrVova79 cry zigger
@@SodziausPilietis Oh yeah definitely crying over 14 tanks lmao 🤣🤣🤣
well, Israel once did win with less tanks agains the infidels
Good job. Get them trained and get them in action. Even if the tanks are not used to their potential and are not a major military asset, the real benefit of sending them is that it sends a message to Russia that, despite some differences, the west is still united and steadfast in supporting Ukraine. The message being sent to russia is more important than the tanks themselves being sent to Ukraine
Practicality is a secondary consideration.
I don't know if this a good idea.. why go against the formula by sending them toys that are slow and go against hit and run tactics? The himars, javelins, and drones seemed better ways to defend.
@OSU these tanks aren't like Russian tanks. They are need to over run heavily guarded positions I.e. over run enemy trenches
@@osu3167 The Ukrainian line has broke at zaphoriza and soledar. Tanks are just gonna get blown up. ISIS massacred Turkish leopards in Syria. this is just for Ukrainian morale.
@Eric Anderson yes, Russian soldiers......
The Abrams turbine engines are pretty fuel efficient. Many programs have upped its mileage per gallon. 🤷🏻♂️
As a former US tanker I’m 100pct confident this a mistake. The abrams is unique and demanding on its crews. It would be wiser to send Leo’s only.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 Stronger Together💯💯💯💯
You should not be thanking Germany. We should all be thanking the British.
As they was the first to offer western tank.
Which paved the way for other nations to do the same 😉
It will be interesting to see how well the Abrams perform. The military will be watching closely.
It's the Leopards that are largely untested in battle. Of Nato's arsenal, only Abrams and Challenger have a lot of combat experience. Turkey's experience with Leopards in Syria was a debacle.
@@gagamba9198 but that was Abrams operating under good conditions with the enormous US military logistics and infrastructure for support. This is completely different.
The Abrams killed a lot of Iraqi tanks without casualties. The military already knows.
@@gagamba9198 Wow, Someone who knows the UK are sending tanks, From this article anyone would think Germany or the US were the first to announce the transfer of tanks to Ukraine. I know this is a German broadcaster, But the way they managed to skate around mentioning that is impressive and biased lol..
@@AstroGremlinAmerican keyword: Iraqis.
Good information on old tanks for targets of Drones and missles? What kind of cover for those tanks?
I assume those formations would be accompanied by the Gepard SPAAG, because that's what they were built for. And they demonstrated they are quite effective at dealing with drones and cruise missiles.
I doubt that these tanks will be ready for use before next year, but the US does not send its tanks to die. They have something up their sleeve. Perhaps F-16s will come soon. I believe these tanks are very good in a defensive role.
Btw, the Muscovite offensive will occur sometime in April, in the year 3742.
They can probably get them on the battlefield with trained crews in a few months. You know, 3 month training for the most capable Ukr tank crews. Combined with the leopard it will be a small amount, but Ukr could mass them to break through the Russian lines and a critical point.
The US has a lot of equipment scheduled for decommissioning, including a lot old abrams tanks. It's not a big loss for them either way. I do agree that some jets might be next for Ukraine.
it will be scrap, I expect ukrroppisstan to be pound to ashes
@@alexgamble4718 You don't get it, its already clear that Finland, Spain and Poland will also send Leopards to Ukraine. They couldn't until now because they needed germanys permission. Now when germany send Leopards it will of course give the permission to these countries also. So the Ukraine will get tanks from UK, Germany, Spain, Finland, Poland, USA and maybe France.
The U.S. likes to invade countries and then leave.
Ukraine may be overwhelmed with the technology but they will be most overwhelmed with the range and accuracy of some modern machines and ammunition.
Go Ukraine!!!
About bloody time too.
so good to hear
I would be surprised if we have not already trained Ukrainians crews on the Leopard
Ukrainian crews from Alabama
Finally the Leopards 🐆 released!!
ur telling me we spend 1.01 trillion a year on our military but we sent them the most dollar store general tanks we have. Were doing worse than goodwill lmao
I don't understand why some Germans still look at this through the lens of the ugliness of WWII rather than seeing this as an opportunity for their country to redeem itself in the eyes of the World by helping to save Ukraine from the brutality that is Russia. Hold your head high, Germany. You are doing the right thing.
@Wilhelm Eley Thanks for helping me understand.
One battalion seems a good enough sample size for an analysis of real-world Abrams vs Russian T-series tanks in an Eastern European (not desert) theatre
From what it sounds like, if the Abrams first have to be built rather than taken from stock, they may well arrive too late to actually see any action.
@@ddshiranui I would be shocked if they sent anything newer than a 2010 model. You simply do not provide proxy states with your best gear. The done thing in this instance is to offload old stock of older models no longer in use, especially when we know that Russia is using the T-60 which is decidedly last gen.
@@bartandaelus359 Yeah, which is why it's strange that they do not provide for example some of the ~500 M1A1 the USMC just put into storage. Cheaper and would actually show up in time to help.
Fun Fact. Leopard and Abrams were once a joint design project between Germany and America but that broke down and each went their own way. Both tanks have the same DNA since they took that early design and built on it. Lets get them some jets now.
disappointing that Scholz takes so long and gives Putler plenty of time to prepare.
Wow! Abrams and Leapards? Expect to see more Russian defectors huh? Merry late Christmas Mr. Putin 😊
Ukraine will get all the western MBTs, IFVs and APCs it's been asking for for months. Which mean come summertime when all these are operational the AFU is going to have enough offensive combat power to make the kind of rapid advances they did last year.
I highly doubt they'll even have them all in country by summer offensives begin and if they do, I hope they're held back because they won't be trained in use, recovery and maintenance yet.
@@bartandaelus359 they'll have an immediate impact and it won't take a year to get some of em, they're getting everything they need little by little, politics gets in the way like in most wars but they'll eventually have a shitload of NATO tanks and prob jets, its a matter of time.
If you want, we can send some Vespas from Italy
Yes
Hope there is peace in this world 🙂✌️
Yes, after Russia is defeated.
@@chrisczarnik3439 damn delusional. These tanks won’t change the course of the.war, just make it longer.
no doubt western militaries will be wargaming how best to use these tanks and come up with a battleplan - which will no doubt involve deception and a high degree of secrecy, but i would love to hear some possibilities, this next phase will be completely unique in modern warfare
No not really. The Russians, Ukrainians and NATO knows what coming.
Where is Erwin Rommel when u need him!
31 is 50
@@calidude1114 I was thinking similar. "Where is Patton when u need him!"
Modern warfare?.... Russia is riding in with WW2 tanks with the helicopter hood. That's not modern if the tank can't fly.
Make sure they don't fall into the enemy's hands!
We all have to pray 🙏 and hope for the best
This is madness..
Apparently Vladof Putler is your guy…He’s definitely madly insane.
Thank you 🇩🇪.
🤦🏿 when will we stop this! Why are we so dumb and hateful?
Probably will send old M1 without the DU armor but upgunned 120mm.
2nd, Abrams engine can use any fuel because it's a turbine engine. If it lits, it fits. US use jet fuel (JP) in Abrams because it's cheaper for them logistically from CONUS since all vehicles from airplane, drones and AFV use the same fuel (JP) in 1 tanker. Other countries who use Abrams also use diesel not JP.
JP-1, 4, 6, 7, 8...? Which jet propellent are you refering to? (They would all work ok, maybe excepting JP-7 which is a hard starting high boiling-point sort of oil, but it would work with a dash of gasoline blended to make start up practical.)
Great news !
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Requires a lot of training to get best use out such an expensive unit.
Germany insisting on an inefficient mix of systems is mind boggling
I think a standard Nato tank batallion is 56 tanks (4 companies of 14). Ukraine tank batallions are 31 (per Biden's comment). So when Biden says Germany intends to help to send 2 batallions worth of tanks are we talking about 62 or 112 tanks in total? Sending them in multiples of 14 would seem to imply Nato batallions of 56.
The Poles and others are sending Leo's so more
NATO 56
more tanks for Ukraine hooray 🎉
I think Germany just did not want to be seen as a lone actor in potentially escalating a situation. It has a very traumatized self-image. I think his request was fair, but I still suggest the Leopard is the best solution. We are talking about a difference of around eight months for delivery. Logistics for the Abrams should be fast-tracked and funded in Poland given they have an order for some 250 of them anyways.
They can have the Abrams station near Keiv for defending it as that will not require them to move much around. Leapords for everywhere else
31 M1-Abrams tanks + 14 Leopard 2's + 14 Challengers + 150 Bradley Fighting Vehicles (armed with TOWs) = a VERY BAD DAY for Russian forces in Eastern and Southern Ukraine. Russia has the numbers, for sure. But they don't have the quality of equipment or troops. M1 Abrams are not good for the Ukrainian war, long term, due to the logistical issues with them, so I don't imagine that the M1 Abrams will be deployed offensively. I think Bradleys, T-72's, Leopards, and Challengers will be doing most of the offensive fighting. Used in joint operations, the Russians have no good answer for this on the battlefield.
If you count Poland and co. than it will be more than 14 leo´s
These tanks are not invincible they are still vulnerable to anti tank munitions, air strikes or massive artillery bombardment
Truefully them bradleys and TOWs plus other APT will be more effective than any main battle tanks put togather combine. the T-72 is not a cutting edge sophisticated tank by modern standards. Bradleys are design to take those cold war era tanks down very effectively. They are highly mobile, take less fuel and more manuverable and by far faster, exactly what the ukrainan needs in a wide battlefield warfare.
@@mrjerzheel Russians don't do air strikes, artillery will not work if the counter battery radars do their job
its more like 90 leopards and 40 marders additionaly, russia will have a hard time when they already have to pull t62s from storage
Excellent news !
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You guys haven’t picked a fight like Ukraine and barely have a country left. May God protect and save you my brother!
Someone tell this guy we can hear him smacking his lips off screen throughout the entire segment lmaooo
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Can you mute the presenter's mic during interviews when he's not speaking please, probably doesn't come through on a TV but with a headset its unpleasant. Many thanks, keep up the great reporting
It is correct that the Abrams are "not suited" to battlefield in Ukraine. They are too heavy for the open fields across most of Ukraine, compared to the German Leopard 2 tanks which were specifically designed for those conditions. But the Abrams are ideally suited for fighting in urban areas and having them will allow the Ukrainians to choose the best armaments for the various types of combat they may encounter.
@@georgepopa1674 there isnt even a single video showing the effectiveness of russian atgm 😂😂let alone trying to destroy abrams with an overrated ruskies..the only thing that russia has an edge over ukraine are the crazy amount of armaments besides it russia is just a plain army worth of 💩😂
Everything about what you just said is wrong
Ukraine has EARNED these tanks and have earned the respect of EVERYONE in the world.
Use the Abrams in overwatch while the Leopards can be workhorses.
I really hope so
Thank you, Germany and USA, and Poland, and all other supporters! 🙏
Aaand, happy Birthday, president Zelensky! Wish you victory, justice, peace! 💛💙
Where are the 2000+ tanks Ukraine started the conflict with?..... hahahahaa! It's all lack of commonsense, 2000+ tanks couldn't do the job, and you're childishly happy about a few tanks? C'mon! don't be dumb like European leaders.
Zelensky is a real thug