Ex-GRU Officer explains Putin’s Nuclear Threats | Conflict Zone
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- Few Moscow foreign policy & defense experts are more well-connected than Dmitri Trenin who left the Russian army as a military intelligence colonel and went on to head the Carnegie Moscow Center until it was dissolved in 2022.
Trenin, who spoke to Tim Sebastian from the Russian capital, says the Kremlin sees the war in Ukraine as an "existential" fight and that Vladimir Putin's nuclear threats need to be taken seriously. Much of the Russian elites sees the conflict as a proxy war with the United States and its NATO allies. Trenin says many issues could have been resolved before the Russian invasion on February 24, 2022, but tragically were not.
Chapters Info
00:00 Intro
01:55 Russia is coping, and learning
02:16 What to make of Russian forces change of commanders?
02:36 Prepare for more decisive action
03:15 One law for Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrrov & Yevgeny Prigozhin of Wagner PMC?
03:54 Russia is a country at war.
04:33 Discontent in Moscow
05:05 Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu & Europe as a theater of war for Russia
06:40 Freedom of the press in Russia & Telegram
07:42 Original concept of the “Special Military Operation”
08:47 Western confiscation of RU foreign currency reserves
09:57 Kicking Russia out of SWIFT
10:59 European members of NATO are vassals of the US
11:10 Germany shooting itself in the foot in energy policy
11:32 Criticism of Putin before & after February 24, 2022
11:59 Russian support for Donbass separatists
13:10 We are in a proxy war with the United States
13:33 European security & Ukraine in NATO
14:33 Russian post-Soviet foreign policy
15:45 Was NATO enlargement a threat to Russia?
16:58 Genocide in Donbass, UN case at ICJ
17:55 Putin’s nuclear blackmail vs. deterrence
19:25 Russian nuclear doctrine
20:07 The whole war is existential for Russia
20:27 A world without Russia?
22:14 Is Vladimir Putin mad?
24:14 No one was prepared to sit down with Russia and negotiate
24:50 How does Ukraine war end?
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A great joke I heard
A Russian woman turns to her husband and asks “Who are we fighting in Ukraine”
Her husband turns to her and replies “We are fighting Ukrainian facists, The United States and NATO”
“How are we doing?” She asks
“Well we’ve lost 100k of troops, most of our advanced tanks and other equipment has been destroyed or captured. Over 20 generals have been killed, our economy is being crushed due to sanctions and there is talk of nuclear war and full mobilization.”
“Oh my god.” The wife replied before asking “What have NATO and the US lost?”
“They haven’t arrived yet.” The man replied.
The woman said, begged for more tanks even the dilapidated ones.🤣
@@fernandocruz4877 except ...russian women never beggs ! :(
@@kukulroukul4698 sori, i thot it was ukrin.
Ever heard of a proxy war?
Heard that joke from Zelensky too during his interview with David Letterman.
"It's so not fair! All we did was attack Ukraine and commit war crimes and now we're opposed by the entire civilized world! Poor Mother Russia! Why are we always the victims?" -- Russians
the Russian people are like chickens whom the farmer can rip all their feathers out until they bleed, but will follow you when you throw them some corn, bleeding all the way--Stalin.
@@StrongRespect The 'ukranians' where separatist (Russian funded )who also shot down MH17
@@StrongRespect If all Russians care about is truth, then why do they lie all the time?
@@StrongRespect Russian soldiers are raising Ukrainian cities to the ground murdering anyone who opposes them and you dare to speak about justice and russia prevailing?!
Get out of the country that Russia invaded! Leave Ukraine and the war will be over. That is how Russia prevails!
Russia is actually not opposed by the entire civilized world. It is opposed by the US and its NATO allies -- most of the rest of the world is either taking a neutral stance or leaning towards Russia. Unless you consider the civilized world as consisting only of the so-called collective West...
Imagine attacking an innocent country and then calling them a threat when they fight back🙄
Just that Ukraine is not "innocent" - which doesn't make the war legitimate though
Imagine stationing nuclear weapons a stone's throw from a capital. Oh yeah, that's already been done and we were ready to go to Nuclear war over it. Read your history so that I'm not condemned to repeat it with you.
Yes when you have nuclear weapons and multiple eays tno deliver it.
You might want to read up on the Cuban crisis 1962
You didn't learn anything from this video or the conflict. It was agreed upon that the UN would not put weapons on Russias border. The US yes our country provoked Russia into this situation. If you were the leader of a country you would invade as well. They arm those weapons they can destroy Russia lol. This war is strictly on the UsA 🇺🇸. I gotta laugh when people point fingers at other countries about war crimes. Go read the leaked wiki files from Afghanistan how our military was gunning down innocent civilians in Iraq with AC 130s. Or Edward Snowdens CIA file dump on all our war crimes in other countries including election interference as well.
Trenin looked like he was about to burst into tears by the end of this interview. It must be painful for an intelligent man to argue against truth and logic. Good work Tim. 👏
Can someone explain to me what the difference is between a "Special Operation" and a "Military Operation?" (8:20)
@@williamyoung9401 The terminology changed over time, and I think Trenin simply mis-spoke here. He's been placed in an impossible position here, but he's trying his best to save himself and those around him. Russia's not very forgiving, although he's managed to stay away from windows for a year since he made his views public.
He is intelligent, but he's certainly not sentimental. As a GRU agent he is just trying to convinced, weedle, intimidate etc.
I thought he did very well to remain polite in replying to a very aggressive and over -bearing host. The views he expressed are perfectly reasonable and he reminded me of an adult patiently trying to correct and inform an ignorant but rude and cocky adolescent.
@@brucehooker9974 BS
Russia's own actions are the biggest existential threat to Russia.
Russian leaders are. For over a century now the Russian people have allowed one despot after another to rule over them. Till that changes their country will continue to slide backwards.
Putler is the only threat to Ruzzia
boy ... wars are not made by one side only... look the history..... look Iraq... Syria.... Afghanistan..... wars are for money and power....
They protect Donetsk from the A z ov- a i dar-bulies and their sponsors.
Would you not do the same and protect the weaker one from thebully?
Putin's actions to be specific
He’s speaking in a language familiar to those that do not wish to fall out of a skyscraper window.
…or drink tea
Or change their underwear :)
😂 that man protecting his family and himself
His skill to dance around hot topics is admirable.
That was what I was going to mention. So its that obvious of Dmitri Trenin.
The best news-journalist I know. The way he sets up the questions & objectivity in second to none. Top notch journalism.
Tim Sebastian's questions and commentary were right to the point, we need more of it
More liberal Bs
this is like a lawyer trying to argue for someone they know is totally guilty
" like a lawyer trying to argue for someone they know is totally guilty"- well, this is partly why the profession of advocate has been invented in the first place. But yes, you can always amuse anyone has ever had anything to do with law by getting angry about the fact people in legal profession simply do what's supposed to be the natural part of their professional duties. If you wnat to kill time you might do a little mental exercise and ask yourself: how could I ever prove my innocence in any court of law if being acused about a crime I didn't commit I would live in a perfect world in which lawyers argue only for someone who they are certain is innocent but refuse to argue for someone whom everybody else consider as someone totally guilty of a crime in question?
@@ricbace The country which jails and fines anyone who speaks out against the war screeches "hear the other side" 😂😂😂 Cute orc
@Human Beings R Thinking Beings nothing was deployed. Now it will be. Ukraine democracy-> Cuba communist dictatorship.
@@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT you are just repeating the democracy fallacy and nonsense. It is the same principle that the US had against Cuba, your feelings don't matter.
Of course in your mind, Russia has 1 million reasons to defend itself against US ,NATO
The fact that some Russians are getting away with publicly criticizing the war doesn't mean Russia has freedom of speech. It just shows that Russia doesn't have the capability China has to control public speech. I think Putin would like to squelch criticism inside Russia, it's just that he is unable to do so.
True. It's an open question whether Putin will ever achieve the same absolute control China and North Korea have over the population.
Exactly, the person’s mention of *where* that discussion takes place is awfully revealing - it exists on Telegram _precisely because_ it is anonymous and encrypted. Everywhere else, their government crushes the ability to talk openly
Russia has more freedom of speech than US will ever have bro. Russians don't care about politically correct statements or censorship. CNN has a way stricter agenda than Russia Today, and just because a lot of Russian's don't ""condemn"" the war, that doesn't mean that they can't. They are patriots and they wont be pushed out and intimidated by you and your remarks. You are probably from america or UK so i don't expect you to understand what that means anyway.
The relationship between the people and the leaders is different in Russia from China.
He doesn't NEED to squelch criticism, he lives in Russia.
Check Chechnya, and Belorussia: terror applied by the mindless zealot fools of your regime is way more effective than technology.
Humans doing inhumane things to fearful other humans is the way of the Russian influential world: fear for your own kind is devastatingly effective.
Or the capabilities west has to control freedom of speech and the truth in general
Will someone remind this man, it's not a war, it's a very very special operation.
Very good insight into Russians’ warped view of this conflict. Their aggression is always justified, they are always “the victim.” Russia’s maneuvering is “common sense” and western maneuvering is “treachery.”
The ruzzian federation must be dismantled. It's an evil empire oppressing peoples inside and outside its borders.
That's the core issue and root of the problems here.
This is an educated russian intelligence guy - "old school". I promise, 30yrs ago, you'd bought any used car from him, and after paying, he'd have you killed.
Well, in fact, the victim has nothing to do with it. Rather, a different approach to resolving conflict situations. For Western people, the law is important for us, justice. If justice goes against the law, then it should be so.
And in general, you can write a poster insulting your neighbor on your window, this is your right. But why be surprised why the neighbor broke into your house and killed half the family? And is this demarche worth it?
"If Russia leaves the theater of war, the war is finished. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine is finished." Bravo, Tim Sebastian, you're the best.
As others here have noted, Sebastian just repeated the words previously voiced by Mr. Blinken.
@@gregparrott Blinken for President
Nobody listen to very sober reality of Russia
@@229Mike LOL
lemme guess you voted for sleepy joe..
@@notastone4832 wrong again Trump supporter. You can smell a Trump supporter miles away. Never logical, posts memes as facts on social media. Never names sources-of the most basic college course requirement. Education? Forget about it-only liberals run our education haha. The Trump movement is over. Time to move on.
When Trenin implied that Ukraine trying to take back the Donbas and Crimea would be seen in Moscow as a threat to Russians existence was probably the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard.
This argument was also terrible because it implied Russia is just resuming its aggression of 2014, as if it was any sort of justification.
There was referendum VOTE in Crimiea the Results was 99.9% in favor of being part of Russia. .I thought the West SUPPORT democracy...What a HYPOCRISY Moraly BANKRUPT you people are!!
but he's not wrong. because when Ukraine retakes the temporarily occupied territories, Putin is dead. The power vacuum that comes next could tear thr Federation down, just like the CCCP in 1991.
It will be existential crisis, Sebastopol is the only warm water port Russia have access to.
If you have any brain's you can guess the reason what & why.
Ukraine wanna join Nato.... now they will not join it.... simple as that...
I like how Tim has the guest’s own quotes at the ready. Great prep. Effective tactic.
Tim has done an excellent and clever journalistic job. Resisting the temptation to debate, a good interviewer like him manages to lead the interviewed person to express all his arguments, whether they make any sense or not. Tim leaves to the audience to listen and decide. Of corse, when an argument is blatantly bad faith, he counters so that the other party knows that there’s a limit to acceptable inaccuracies he can say. Bravo.
"acceptable inaccuracies" ? According to the sitiuation we have today (22.02.2023) ? This guy is an immediate kill, whenever he moves away from his western style decorated library.
An intelligent man who knows he is speaking rubbish, and knows we know he is speaking rubbish. Very wise on his part, but quite ridiculous, and revolting too.
🤑
If you say so… it must be so
Very well said.
Putin justifies it in many ways, but his motivation is profits
He has to, if he wants to live in peace and not threatened by Putin.
Tim really got this. Among of other interesting part in this interview, Tim corners that guy at 20:26 by literally rephrasing Mr. Blinken words: "If Russia stopped fighting: the war is finished, If Ukraine stopped fighting: The Ukraine is finished". Well done Mr. Sebastian.
@@verar5844 …. Is pure what?? What part of Mr Blinken statement you don’t understand? As of demagoguery it is something the guy called Lavrov likes to do so, it works well for most of already zombiefied Russian population. Bending words in a context of reality that is his speciality. That is a pure demagoguery.
Is Mr Trenin saying or suggesting the West got what it was looking for?
@@atomic3141 Apparently Mr. Trenin is having trouble to comprehend the questions in this interview and definitely is having some problems to give the answers as well.
@@user-fz6pd8xu4c Blinkin, you said? Who knows, but Blinken is not.
If Russia stop the war, western prejudice and sanction against Russia will not go away, Ukrainian seeking revenge will also not go away, hence why Russia is continuing the war Inspite of all the challenges to have a future in this world
I could see Tim just wanting to tell the story the way it is. Extremely contained very professional and outstanding interview. Tim you peeled that onion back very carefully and exposed the truth. It would appear Russia is sitting on a crumbling house of cards.
Such interviews are not set up to give the place for Tim to tell his thinking. His job is, to reveal the guest's thinking. And yes, he's pretty damn good doing so.
I'm actually glad that we're hearing the perspective of somebody from the side of Russia. It's ludicrous what he says, but it's good to know that we can still hear both perspectives. In the United States it's pretty hard to see interviews like this ...
...and if u listen ukranians arguments , so there u can take a little from each part and see the true.
Me too. My dog will often growl about Kant's Categorical Imperative , makes no sense to me but it is good to hear another species'perspective on ethical dilemma's we all face..
Disagree! I live in US and I watch news from other countries whenever I want. I favor (in order) DW, BBC, and Al Jazeera. Domestically, I prefer ABC World News.
@@richardpark3054 It's true that we haven't had the internet limited as they do in China, but that may not be so far off. But I think he was speaking of the MSM as it functions to work on distraction after distraction amid our government dysfunctioning. Currently, there is a CCP spy balloon hovering over our nuclear silos in Montana and the Pentagon is frozen like a deer in the headlights over what to do about it.
In the US and this popped up on my feed!
Watching this man fumble the for feeble defenses he can muster for a war he knows is wrong is stomach turning to watch.
He might or live on the ground floor
His saying there is no option but war. If you didnt know nato and Zelensky had a lot against 🇷🇺 Russia
Get your mind right
@@Buck_T A tactical mistake, not a moral one. Yeah, he was slippery. all right, I completely agree!
He was right about something , it wasn’t the west that caused Russian failure initially. Before sending support, Ukraine stood alone when 50 miles of combat vehicles and troops headed for Kyiv and failed due to Ukraine resistance. Ukraine made believers of the world and then help happened.
Correct many western governments would have been happy for Ukraine to collapse and then say "Its too late nothing we can do. Bad Russians". The Ukrainians courage inspired the west to find its backbone, now the Germans need to find theirs properly. Ukraine Fights for Europe and should be spared nothing.
Slava ukraine
Please get it right, the US was supporting the Ukraine government with military and intelligence before Russia started. Even the British which has now come to light. Stop telling lies.
@@kamruli7906source?
Rubbish Nato had been equipping and training Ukrainians for 7yrs. Try some critical analysis.
Tim Sebastian’s „Hardtalk“ on BBC was already one of my favourites. Love the talks. 🤗
Former Military Intelligence Colonel. Once in the Army, always in the Army. We don't know which are his personal thoughts. And we will never know.
I think we do know... watch it once more. Why even do the interview? I think He's cryptically trying to warn us that Putin is going to use a nuke, warning while pretending to be a Putin "shill". pretty spooky honestly, I really think that's why he came on.
As you say. He is a trained intelligence officer. Do not believe a single word of him, and the opposite also not, at the same time.
20:50 If russia goes home, the war is finished.
If ukraine stops fighting, ukraine is finished.
That was the key moment of the interview. And he started mental gymnastics at high olympic levels.
without Ukraine there is no Russia you have to understand that. Russia is not a superpower without Ukraine and it wont survive without it.
If the ukranian government gives up, there will still be partisans fighting, which means the war might go on for another 5 or 10 years. The only way there would be peace, is Russian troops going home.
@Covfefe Why does the biggest country on earth with lots of natural resources need even more?
@@covfefe1787 It has no need of it whatsoever.
The things that are holding back Russia are totally divorced from Ukraine, and will not be made better if it takes Ukraine’s land.
Indeed, the things it is doing to itself in attempting to make taking Ukraine possible, are making worse the very things that are holding it back!
Namely, these are the obsession of past imperial glories, authoritarianism, and corruption (this one especially - the persistent and widespread culture of vranyo)
Love this. He cannot directly speak out against Putin. But it's denying and downplaying the war in every way possible.
Ofcourse he is a pro western Russian. He used to work for western think tank
Excuses excuses….”EEEEEvening vvveare….Sprrring Veeear…..Svvvwimmm Vear…….VVVVeeerrrry NIIIIICE”
Eh? That's your interpretation of what he was doing? I didn't see that all, except for the interviewer trying his best to trip him up for some reason.
Hi from Russia.
1. Tzar and Patriarch are two half-sacred figures. You can criticize the government policy, its OK. But do not touch the Tzar personally, because he is embodiment of the whole nation.
2. This war like any other war. War is norm, ask your American handlers if in doubt
@@TheRealBillBob My thoughts exactly. Maybe the original poster read the guest's name and assumed the rest to build his own narrative. The US narrative that the interviewer is pushing is almost as far from the narrative we in Europe are hearing as the Russian one is.
Kinda funny how it first the geography. The truth lies in the middle. US to the west and Russia to the east from the middle both seem to be in the wrong direction when it comes to their narrative viewpoint.
Another excellent EXCELLENT episode. Tim Sebastian is TOP NOTCH journalist and interviewer!
I like this interviewer, the interviewee was doing the standard Russian two-step, although without the blatant Russian lies which I found refreshing. But that interviewer refused to let him off the hook, good job 👍
Crazy
10/10 mental gymnastics here. His head was about to explode trying to come up with responses that didn’t make him sound like a complete clown. Always some nebulous responses and of course the “Russian Perspective” which as far as I can tell, is simply made up on the spot to suit a persons present argument and not based on facts and reality.
he's just trying to save himself and his family from "accidentally" falling out of a window
His lies still reveal the Russian mindset. If you can work around the double speak, they're doing exactly what the plans call for. Misinformation. They're not going to use nukes as I once thought. They're using nuclear blackmail. Russia is playing a poker game at the high stakes table, and they're holding a pair of deuces when NATO has a Royal Flush.
This war is about regime preservation. There was never an existential threat to Russia. The regime had appropriated the identity and agency of the entire country to its own ends.
Well, yes, current regime has a history of power consolidation by starting the war outside of Russia in order to trigger a sense of unity in Russian nation but this time around there is more to it. Visible even in this interview. But still, operation keeps dragging on, not going as planned, too sluggish, so yes, from Russian view it was a mistake. Problem is current political leadership in Russia usually solves such mistakes by refusing to admit that the original failed idea come from the top levels of political chain of command. But in here they have a problem. Ukraine does not want to partake in spreading such narrative now. And well, things this time around got out of hand on much larger scale than Russia planned, so taking a step back to close this chapter for Russia is going to be harder than such things have ever been for Russia. But yes, it's about time Russia did something in this regard. But surely it feels more alone than ever this time around.
Ye agree, Syria, Libya, Irak ...
Of course there is no threat 🤡🤡🤡
Totally true, the excuse of Ukraine being a NATO member falls down seeing how much Russia has ignored Sweden and Finland aplications (well they throwed some vague threats). It’s about regime preservation, it’s not about Russia, it’s about the way the Russian elites perceive the country. They want to keep that cleptocratic, totalitarian closed regime, that fits really well to the oligarchy and restricts the population.
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Funny you brought that up considering the Russian history of staying within its own borders and not inferring the necessity of NATO or nuclear deterrence. Russia can complain about defense alliances at its border and their nuclear deterrence when they give up their murderous imperial ambitions on the continent. This is wife abuser logic, "NATO made me do it" 🙄.
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Why do you compare things happening now, with things happening what? 50, 60 years ago?
And these situations differ a lot. There was no cold war now, or at least i thought so. Only reason i can see for Russia to have issues with countries joining NATO is that it makes it so much harder to attack these countries. Mby thats why Russia came up with suggestion for NATO to expel countries that joined after .. 1997.. or so?
Good interview Tim. You got him and Trenin is their best!!! Thanks again DW!!!!
Brilliant interview mr. Tim Sebastian.
Tim Sebastian is by far the best interviewer I have ever seen. He always drills in when the guest starts dissembling.
Yes, his sharp slicing through BS and verbal eviscerating is appreciated!
He's an interviewer? I always get the impression it is some kind of police interrogation 😂
"What have you been doing on the evening of March 6, 2021?"
"The day before the murder, you have been observed arguing with the victim. Is that correct?"
agreed
Rewatched, ...and think I was too hard on Tim. Dimitri was a slippery guest and Tim did a very good job, not just in asking penetrating questions and pulling Dimitri up on his obfuscations and sanitising tactics, but also in presenting a professional and highly polished performance himself. Very well researched and fearlessly but diplomatically played. Tim did DW proud. 10/10.
Drunk Zelenskyy doesn't even know what he is doing...weapons sent to Ukraine are being sold in South Africa fyi 🙄🤔
You can see Tim not liking him at the end - the body language
Completely agree, superb interview.
Perfectly put Peter...
Wow so many big words. Got beat up alot as a kid eh!
I'm glad this guy tells Russia just how we feel.
What an amazing interview. To see into the mind of madness skillfully revealed by Tim Sebastian. But it is a beast and we are all imperiled. I can't believe it when I see some of my fellow Americans pretending that this has little to do with the U.S.
This war is the democrats (sleepy joe) fault
What madness? Majority of the world sees it exactly as that Russian gentelman. And he spoke the truth, eloquently so.
@@vandalissimus the "truth"? What truth. This is an educated KGB agent, the most dangerous of its kind. Talking smartly and trying to get organized that you get killed immediatly.
Travel into Russia, say a wrong word, good luck to you. If you are from Russia, and say this, travel to Ukraine, and you'll face reality.
Trenin clearly doesn't believe what he's saying
You have to understand he has to be very careful with his words. Otherwise, he will find himself falling at -9.8m/s^2.
@@RakeshSharma-nq5tpCuba and Venezuela wouldn’t allow it plus Russia doesn’t have the logistics to do so. There’s one understanding you’re lacking when it comes to NATO they don’t ask or demand other countries to join those countries apply for NATO membership and it’s up to NATO to accept them.
@@vaevak418 is called a good shove out of the intentionally opened window multiplied by the force of gravity.
I am not saying that it is an expansion of what i was basically saying
He has to tread very carefully. Much of what comes out his mouth feels like a delicate dance around a window ledge. One wrong step and splat!
This guy is just trying to be careful not to get thrown out of a window
fall*
@@alexbrown9357
Stumble.
In Putin's Russia, window throws you out.
Or poisoned😅
Well done Mr. Sebastian! You truly know how to nail them!
A real smooth character, this Russian guy. On the subject of Putin's nuclear threats: "We are in a zone in which Russia's very existence is at stake, so I would tread very carefully." Interviewer: "They're (Ukraine) the one's who are at existential risk, not you. You started the war."
Biden started this war
crimea is a red line , question is this - say russia tires of nato support, attacks poland indirectly through spies like sabotage on equipment , assasination and cyber attacks what then?....
a recent poll conducted online asked users a clear message - do you prefer ww3 and a nuclear war - we all die, or a russian victory in ukraine - the answer was 67% preferred a russian victory to nuclear destruction.... also if crimea is attacked and seriously threatened, russia nukes both kiev and lviv , the west then attacks crimea and russian forces in ukraine, russian leaders will see this as direct threat to both russia and there own livelihoods, russia then aggressively attacks nato using either conventional or nukes in poland anfd germany and romania and then all of europe is at war, russia nukes nato and european cities on mass, millions die, china states itll join the fray and attack taiwan and us bases in the pacific , nukes are used both there and in europe, n korea attacks s korea and then ww3 is that what we all want?
this is how serious it could get worldwide if push comes to shove
@@jonathanwhite5688 What a ridiculous question. It's a false dichotomy. It's quite likely that if Russia defeats Ukraine the possibility of a nuclear war increases.
21:50 the mental gymnastics that he did there is amazing. What a pawn.
If russia goes home, the war is finished
If ukraine stops fighting, ukraine is finished
That was the key moment of the interview. And he started mental gymnastics at high olympic levels.
@@knietiefimdispo2458 and he get a medal for that. A gold one.
boy you watch and believe in western media, what are you talking about...
We're talking abt the guest no the host.
@@fernandocruz4877 bro rf is a Russian bot copy paste the same comment on everyone. Don’t pay them attention
This guy clearly cannot say what he thinks and wants to say, or he will end up falling from a tenth floor window of a hotel!
Or accidentally brutally cutting his own head off when shaving.
Total clown
🤑
You're watching way too many hollywood movies 🙄
The Oligarchs that have mysteriously died since the start of the war would agree with you.
The best thing that I can say about this is that it is only fair to let both sides have their say
His arguments that survival of Russia is at stake is just insane
He's arguing that they have to annihilate another country for their own sake
Russia has been the aggressor from the start and he's crying victim
I'm sorry, you are not a victim if you attack someone and they turn out to be a much better fighter
The word he's looking for is loser, not victim
An evasive maneuver: 7:40 “I think that the initial concept of the special military operation was very different,” 8:15 “I don't know what the original concept was.” Bravo! 👏👏👏
Tim cornered this guy the whole time and it is embarrasing to see him struggling while loosing his stand and logic over and over again in that 30 minutes :)
The guy can’t really say much unless he wants to fall out of a window. 😂. Nonetheless, it’s pretty ridiculous.
Anyone from Russia that thinks they can defend what Russia as done is always going to get cornered,there’s no good explanation for Russia to do this.
@@Wargasm644 a lot of critics in Russia wear parachutes now
@@Wargasm644 or 15 years in a prison camp/ gulag!
@@Wargasm644 the guy needs to be introduced to the new version of Microsoft Windows version floor 5 or higher, along with the entire gremlin notZ regime…
Tim Sebastian is brilliant at showing Dimitri Trenin's military intelligence officers "Double Speak!"
with his line of questioning.
Liberal
He seems biased in most of his interviews
This horrific war in Ukraine all goes back to the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances which provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).
In 1994 the memorandum was signed by three nuclear powers: the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States, in which they agreed, in return for Ukraine giving up it’s nuclear arsenal, the World’s third largest, to Russia, it would receive:
1. Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders.
2. Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory.
3. Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
5. Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against the signatory.
6. Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.
Russia broke that agreement in 2014 when it invaded Crimea, but the UK and US did nothing at that time.
Now, finally, in 2022, when Putin invaded the whole of Ukraine; the UK and US decided to honour their obligation, with the help of NATO. If they had honoured the agreement in 2014, then this terrible war would probably not have been started.
Yeah those western haters try to ignore this fact and try their best to twist everything according to Putin’s lie & scripts
Finally THE BEST interview er on all channels!!!,10 out of 10 stars
A beautiful moment is when Tim asks Trenin the 'Gotcha!' question, reminding him of past contrarian statements he had made (starts about 11:10). The Putin groveler is flustered, choking on his own irrational, illogical rhetoric. A masterful Sebastian bullseye >>>------>>-----------> However, I suspect Trenin is probably terrified of accidentally falling out a window of a high-rise building, or ingesting Polonium 210 for lunch. He got the phone call or the 'visit' from Putin's officials, I'll wager. Bless.
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@Stephen Max Connoran I agree 100%. Btw, your last name has got to be Scottish or Irish. I have an incredible grasp of the obvious.
Yes😃😅👍
Thanks for the time stamp. There is no one with a brain who can defend Russia
Yes. A war which Russia started deliberately
Brilliant interview! Well done Tim!
You can't have a rational and unbiased conversation with someone who is under threat of death if he tells the truth.
Trenin has a family no doubt..
👆This. Lots of annoying naysayers seem to find their way into buildings with more than one floor... 🤔
Dmitri is struggling to formulate coherent responses to the interviewer's questions. He clearly is a bright, articulate man but it is very hard to accept his analysis.
His in Russia numbnut , do you want him dead or in prison? Why even call someone in Russia for a “ honest “ opinion?
he's probably just trying not to fall of a window on the 10th floor
his weasel words keep him and his family alive
and his post-war career dead
Exatly what I thought after understand he wasn't a republican pro trump :()
This guy is the worst guest Tim has ever had on. I don't think he said one honest thing during the interview. He doesn't even know his own views. He's just trying to say what he thinks he should say so he stays out of the gulag.
"this is not the time to criticise the commander-in-chief"
Trying to secure his windows tonight.
Superb interview Tim.
Mr. Sebastian, you played this vatnik really well
Tim, I have not heard such great and thoughtful questions in years!!!! Bravo!!! Such a great interview you conducted. 👏 Mark
Not since Tim's last interview. He is brilliant at his job.
excellent stuff. top quality questioning.
A excellent exposure on Tim Sebastian's part.
I appreciate listening to opposing opinions, but im fully on Tim's side here, russia is not facing destruction, they lived 30 years without Ukraine, they can keep doing it
Ukraine on the other hand is fighting for its future as an independent, sovereign country
Don’t mistake an existential crisis for Vlad Putin for an existential crisis for Russia.
Why not? Putin sh*ts out Russia with what he creates everyday...
Of course Russia has no reason to be paranoid ?
They are the same thing
@@samsungtap4183 Russia has 6000 nukes to defend itself. It's not paranoid about the threat, it just lies about it to invade countries.
@@rikk7263 rubbish. There are Russian bases next to multiple NATO countries even before this war. Ukraine hasnt been in NATO and won't be in NATO.
Putin started this war precisely because he thought NATO wouldn't dare to stop him, too cowardly.
In what situation is one afraid of a coward
Great content thank you.
By the time the interview ended, Dimitri’s face got red … Great job Tim!
Everything is existential for this regime. There's no way any other country believes this is existential behavior
Ruzzia poses existential threat to neighboring countries, Ruzzia launches war every 10 years !!!
well... why USA do not accept Russian equipment on Cuba... years ago.. they called it existential threat .... now NATO wanna do the same... and got what they want a war... to avoid talk internal problems.... well done Biden...
The sad thing is that Putin frames the conflict as "existential for Russia", as if his sad little self IS Russia! The world knows that to see his regime crumble would offer opportunity for Russians if they chose a different style of leader. Nothing erases the Russian nation or culture.That's hogwash. They're so wonderful at the arts, at logic, at sport, but so bad at governance.
Mind Begs the Question:
If deploying Weapons,Mercenaries
At USA doorstep(Cuba) - Not Allowed
At Russias doorstep(Ukraine) - Allowed
Democracy,Imperialism?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Not Allowed? Not sure exactly what you're talking about considering that the Soviets had troops and weaponry stationed in Cuba for several decades.
This was an excellent and fascinating interview. Well done, sir.
Excellent interview.
Sharp as always ✊
He can't give a straight answer to any of the questions 🙄
Would you in his position?
the world is full of interests.... there is no evil, wars are for money and power..... ask yourself why USA wanna this war... you will find answers...
@@ricbace Ask yourself why Russia invaded on the 24th of February. Let's see if you can give a logical answer.
That's totally not "ex" officer. Absolutely typical russian KGB employee and one of the guys due to who people are dying in masses in this war. But it's good to have an image of the mind map of the enemy.
This guy is brilliant the West must listen to this fellow to get sense of what Russians think
We don’t give a damn what the Kremlin thinks. It needs to get out of Ukraine, including Crimea.
@@pacmanc8103 Okay have it your way …. But remember if you don’t listen to your adversary and in this case a nuclear superpower the unintended consequences for Ukraine and world are unimaginable. Escalation is guaranteed and then what?
@@ellyshipiki7530 To be clear, Russia is a nuclear power like 4-5 other nations. It is not a superpower in any way - not militarily or economically. Simple - it has to leave the nation it invaded.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦from Danmark 🇩🇰
I thought this was a serious debate ,not a comedy show .I havent laughed so much in years 🤣🤣
Mind Begs the Question:
If deploying Weapons,Mercenaries
At USA doorstep(Cuba) - Not Allowed
At Russias doorstep(Ukraine) - Allowed
Democracy,Imperialism?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 me too
A leopard never loses his spots. Once in Military Intelligence, always in Military Intelligence...
This guy is one of the best reporters
great Q&A...
This guy knows who pays his salary.
well.. the western media also is playing their game...
And that he has sold his soul!
This war started in 2014 remember...
Yup. And Putin thought 2022 would go just like 2014. Maybe he missed what happened in Ukraine in those eight years.
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Putin had a puppet government in Ukraine in 2014, but not in 2022.
@@harmless6813 well not sure what he thought .. but boy they are doing very good..... they are the most sanctions country in the world... and still winning.... wtf...
@@ricbace Man, if that is winning, what is losing looking like? Delusional Russia bot.
@@harmless6813 jajajajaja... Russian bot.. .jajajajajaja boy grow up.... if you lost 25% of your territory you are losing not winning...
Dude Tim is so sharp. Love it!
Dimitri's very last comment was that the stakes are higher for Russia than they offer Ukraine which just absolutely blew my mind I was hoping he would ask him that but he ended up letting him off the hook 😠
Yes, a self inflicted existential crisis fueled by inflated ego and colonial imperialism.
You mean the west right 😂
@@estebanpardo9611 The West isn't invading Ukraine. Eastern European countries are applying to NATO.
@@estebanpardo9611 west already forget Libya - Yugoslavia -no wander west IQ is shrinking. just look at their leaders - how happy they are to be vessel of a thug.
are you talking about Germany?
Putin is fighting for his life!
The phrase “one hand tied behind the back” is a easy excuse for the overall military failure. Not much remains in basket to pull out
I love the interviewer Tim Sebastian, he gives no quarter.
Great question.
Deep down inside he knows this is not morally right and is feeling uneasy. You can see it on his face.
Deep down you also know you are evil .
@@crazyenough5539 That you make such a determination from such little information is revealing of just how worthless your claim is
@@crazyenough5539 damn these bots are runni ng out of ideas😆
Thank you Mr. Sebastian for a great interview. Made me want to put my hand though the tv to get to the throat of this Dimitri guy!!
that tell us much about you
@@ricbace yeah, that he hates weasels that support Putin’s genocide in Ukraine.
Tim is a brilliant.. I enjoy watching how he juice out his resource.
Great interview by both men
It's literally like saying, 'I'm taking up two seats on the bus because my neighbor is sitting too close to me even though I'm acting crazy. I know it's because he's concerned about the elderly lady that is within spitting distance of me, but it's his fault and if he doesn't move away I'm going to push down this old woman and take her seat too...SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!'. Yeah, we see. We see you.
What bus is he riding in?
What about US getting out of his bus to kill the driver of the car a street away for he is an abusive man. Then raping his wife in the car and killing his children to "set them free". Finally taking their belongings and the oil in the trunk. Knock knock, the car is called Iraq.
bs stop gaslighting. Tell your WEF back leaders to stop overthrowing the elected governments and installing puppets like the comedian. That analogy you gave regarding the neighbor sitting too close is absolutely disingenuous. The loved ones of the over 14000 mostly ethnic Russians-Ukrainians killed by NATO/US-backed Ukrainian military that terrible analogy is very distasteful. Watch other news sources and western mainstream media to get a balanced point of view. Obviously, you are too impressionable to grasp Geopolitics
@@fernandocruz4877 the looney bus.
Fantastic analogy
Germany, just send Ukraine the Leopard tanks.
...and if that doesn't work? What next?
No Susan we don't want to humiliate Russia, we just need to contain them in Ukraine. That why doesn't give Vladimir Putin an excuse to use Nuclear Weapons.
After seeing kindergarten babies d i e after Puma chopper (m ilitary aid!!!!!!) ended their lives!!
Please denounce your e vil wishes
@@mandarinandthetenrings2201 we just watch them humiliate themselves. It's fascinating really lol
@@7screamingdizzbusters No, Brian. Just remember if the Russians reach the Polish border there is going to be a "Nuclear War", half the planet will be dead after first nuclear exchange. So no humiliation what so ever got it!
Well done Tim, Dimitri is slippery, but your questioning brought out much of the truth of it.
God be with Ukraine
A man named Russia invades a home to steal its riches and gets shot by the home owner, because he did not expect the owner to be home at that time armed to the teeth. He is now limping on the floor of the house with a bloody stump of a leg bleeding. He curses, "WHY HAVE THE WEST DONE THIS TO ME?"
Ludicrous.
A man named Russia has a little brother who's gotten out of control. The prodigal child has squandered his inheritance and has gotten in over his head with his creditors. He's now beginning to destroy his mother's home.
The older brother is attempting to protect his childhood home by correcting the belligerent ways of his younger sibling.
@@sarahbrown5073 by killing it? seems about right.
@@sarahbrown5073 In 1 thing you are right I guess. It is about 2 brothers; it s only that from now on the 1 brother will hate the other for as long as he lives.
@@sarahbrown5073 RT BS
@@sarahbrown5073 : That's the point of view of the older brother.
The younger brother's point of view is that he is no longer a child - he is a fully grown adult with the right to make his own decisions, and that his older brother no longer has the right to tell him what to do with his life and with his inheritance from his mother's estate.
The older brother's response to that was to come into his property and beat him up in a massive fight, trashing the entire house in the process, and threaten him with a knife (tactical nuke).
(Note: The mother (USSR) and the father (Tsarist Empire) are both long dead, so obviously they don't have a say.)
Great interview. Trenin is clearly dancing around like a cat on a hot tin roof. All the while the view from his window is looking higher!
Great interview Tim. Dimitri talks in circles.
This is "Hard talk" with Tim Sebastian ☺️
The Ukraine question was not existential for Russia before the war. It became existential after the war. The reason for the war was not existential. The war happened for one reason only: Putin thought he could get away with it. In that, the West bears responsibility, because we let him believe he would get away with it.
A small mistake. Not Putin but Russians. 80% of them support the war and genocide
@@bachristus yeahh, they do, but had Putin decided not to invade, the Russians would have gone along too. The people didn't shape the events, Putin did and still does. For now. Putin is trying to weaponize nationalism in Russia to increase support for the war. That might one day destroy him, and maybe us as well.
I disagree... Putin just doesn't want to have a hostile alliance 300km from Moscow - that's all there is...
@@Marcin-bi7qu what does that have to do with Ukraine? NATO is already in Poland and in the Baltic countries. How does invading Ukraine and butchering it's population changes anything to that fact? Ukraine was not even anywhere close to become a NATO member!
I recommend the Vlad Wexler channel to those who haven't watched it. He made a point that it was existential for Putin's regime (and his vision of Russia's future) to have a successful, Westernized Ukraine. Sooner or later the regime comes under threat and then having an alternative example of governance in a people that are considered essentially the same was too close for comfort. It's bad enough in Poland, the Baltics, etc., but "unbearable" in Ukraine. So to your point, I agree it's not existential for Russia, but it was existential for Putin's dark vision of it.
There is no translation for the word "reality" in the Russian language.
Using the Google, isn't it "реальность"?
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Nope. The word doesn't exist in the Russian language.
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I see you are Russian language specialist
@@alexanderpepkin4110
I see you are the typical Russian slave.
Tim is one of the GOAT. Definitely the best I’ve ever watched, hors concours.
pretty annoying...... and he never was able to get the Russian lured into a liberal "Trap'
I like the way the reporter switched the table around when he mentioned the Cuban situation and brushed it off changed the subject lol
Do you support invading countries? Do you care about what the Ukrainians want or do you support foreing dictates as far as they come from your preferred/paying side?
@Dany Varna yes I do support invading country because I'm from Europe and we invaded Iraq killed over a million innocent people most of them were women and children's .now because of our selfish reason we use ukraine as a puppet to win the war against Russia and not sacrifice any of our own soldiers we just supply weapons and watch the showdown.putin killed few hundreds innocent people in ukraine but he will never be able to beat our million kill streak in Iraq for that reason compared to Europe I see putin like an angel hopefully he wins the war and world will change from the West being in power.people just might stand up against the West after this war it will be good for all of us, sometimes we need to sacrifice to get a good result ukraine is our sacrifice.
I wish every journalist would ask the tough questions that Sebastian does. Real journalism is almost dead.
20:44 Truth left Trenin tripping over himself for 20 seconds 🤣