This is how I would modify it... If the DC gets knocked down, I don't replace it....I just add odds on the Come bets and let the roll finish out.......One DC per shooter rule...don't chase your loses
Last night had a shooter knock two dc's back to back. Said in not going in for another one. Shooter rolled 10, thought "dang that would be great dc." Shooter rolled it right back. Saved 100$ by not chasing with that shooter. Ended up +50% bankroll at the end of the night on blackjack lol.
I would modify this by betting the come bet before the DC. Often times rollers “seven out right away” and this would protect losing from an immediate seven out.
@crappythecrapsman1107 Crappy!!! Welcome back my friend!!! Thanks for the stop by... Yes when the dice are not working, it can turn fast on ya! Yes. You have to show where a strategy is vulnerable.. Otherwise everyone thinks they will win every time...
Thanks for the roll out and showing the levels. I played in Cherokee NC last weekend at a $5 level and quickly won $107. l was playing more aggressively with the levels but like yours better.
I have enjoyed this strategy immensely. Have practiced lots (7-0 today alone) 2-0 at the casino winning $109 and $151 with a $600 bankroll. Slight variation but minor. Sometimes adding odds at some point to increae the value of a 7.
Unless I’m mistaken at the 15:42 mark you seven’d out and you lost your DC bet but you didn’t remove (lose) the 6 and the point 10. A new shooter would be coming out. I’m I correct?
A better way to play the loss when a DC bet number repeats is not to put out a laddered up DC but just continue with the come bets instead. This way you can not lose the pass line, the DC and come bets all at one time. I have had rolls where I get a streak of come winners that actually wins back my DC loss, where I hit so many come bets that if I put up more DC bets they would have lost too. Just let the smoke clear and wait for the seven before jumping back on the DC bet.
Quick question on The Arnold from a novice. Playing at home and trying to understand the mechanics of this system. So scenario is I roll Come Out 4, next roll 10 for DC, and then roll 4 point out on the next roll before the Come bet has been established. I win the Pass Line $10, I lose the DC $40, but what happens to the Come Bet? Does it move to the 4, does it get paid anything, or does it go back in the rack? Help understanding what happens in that scenario would be much appreciated. Thanks brother!
@@jeffgardner4449 Yes. So the Come Out roll with $10 on Pass was 4. So Pass is now in play with point at 4. Put $40 on the Don't Come Bar, roll 10. The $40 goes to the 10, then I put $10 on the Come and roll 4. So if I understand correctly I win $10 on the Pass, I lose $40 on the DC, and the $10 Come moves to the 4 and the puck moves to OFF. I think I got that right.
It didn't switch.. I see what you see.. I even did it in slow-mo to see what happened.. looks like the 6 was against the wall and it rolled back from the wall to a 4... In normal speed it does look funny. But I promise there is no cut there. My rolls are 100% organic.
great video. although "leveling up" is just a fancy n-level martingale if we're being truthful here, which we know always works, until it doesn't work ;-)
I tried raising the DC up 1 unit on each loss and lowering it 1 unit on each win. So with $10 PL & Come with $10 odds I was using $80 units on the DC on WinCraps. I was losing so bad I wound up betting 15 units ($1200) on the DC. Just kept the other bets at $10. So when the DC wins with extra units on it, I get extra $ that isn't reduced by outstanding Come bets with odds. Hang around long enough at those higher DC bet levels it pays off big. But this game will slam several DC losses in a row and take away the winnings. So it's best to gauge when you're ahead at this game and by how much and is it possible to get back to an $80 unit on wins alone, or to just quit when you get back to a $400 DC bet from a much higher bet. You'll likely need more than $10,000 for this session (120 units X $80).
@@markthepoint I tried a ladder to max out at 5 units today and I still hit 15 losses behind on the DC. If I won those DC's back I would have had a big profit between the Come bets winning over a few hundred rolls and the DC bets paying off. But with 65 units behind on the DC, it's a big loss.
I love this system as well. But I modified it. Coming out in DC I use YO to offset if it gets wacked, 2 / 3 dollars for the $40 works. So only loose on 7's. Also my pass line / come bet is $5 with $5 for odds / $6 for 5/9 If I end up with tons of come bets out, I'll put odds on the DC to offset the comes when the 7 rolls out. If my DC gets wacked 2 times with same shooter, ill wait to level up till next shooter as we might have a hot shooter. If I see any craps number, ill through $5 out with extra $1 heavy on seeing that number again, like the 3's lol. You can also just do a $1 or $2 / 3 or whatever number you seen, especially if its wacking your come bet this will help! Its like offsetting the DC bet. I always keep a $5 bet out and up the odds up to 10x in my casino.
Personally I would stay away from Online Craps. I know some online craps has a mechanical arm... but if it is strictly Digital Craps.. I wouldn't play it... I Feel like the Database can be rigged against you no matter how you bet.... IMO But maybe there is someone else who has a different experience.
Of course.. any bet is available on the table whether you are the shooter or not... There isn't any difference.. however.. If you are the shooter, you are required to play a Pass line or Don't Pass to Shoot the dice.
How would I do this at a $15 table? $15 pass line, $60 don't come, then $15 come bets till point or big red? Would you recommend this for a "cold table"?
@@kalukulolo1 no, no martingale.. You Only increase if you are out of profit.... In this case you would increase $20 on the Don't each Time... Ex. 1/4 ratio $10/$40 $15/$60 $20/$80 $25/$100 I would never promote to martingale I don't like the idea to Chase losses.. But this Ladder can help you gain profits back faster if you are able to get on a run.
Quick question on the strategy… on the don’t come bet- why not make a smaller bet like $10 and then put odds for the extra $30? That would limit the 7 out loss on the dc and pass on roll 2. Am I missing something? New to the game and channel but love the videos. Can you please answer / correct my thinking if that doesn’t work the way I am thinking? Thank you
I would say primarily because odds work the opposite for DP... You have to put a double odds or more odds to win Less... Where a straight DC pause even odds... Ex. If it was a 10, I would have to put $60 in odds to get paid $30. I personally don't like the idea... But I love the thinking outside the Box aspect! Thank you for stopping by!
Most content providers typically don't play the pass line the math Shows that more money is made in the Box numbers vs Pass line with odds... I actually have a Video that shows this math.. I believe i call it. Which pays better... But essentially the pass line is a bad bet.. and typically I will stay away from it.
I think this is good when someone is rolling who does t set the dice. If someone is consistently rolling 6’s and 8’s I wouldn’t do this system. I set the dice and hit 6, 8, 9 and 10 a lot.
At close to 16 minutes When a 7 is rolled while youre in the dc you cant replace it until after the next comeout roll! That messed up the payouts and the rhythm of the dice rolls! You cant play the Arnold with 500 br either unless you're playing on bubble craps! Anyways thanks for the shout out brother
I'm trying to find it.. I hit the DC 6 @ min 16... Leveled up to $80 on the next Roll DC.. 10 was technically the Point.. I kinda said it wrong out loud...
Yes you can place Odds with the DC after it is set.. But it takes more to make less. Ex. point of 10.. you have to put $50 odds to make $25... Bs a higher DC and it's even odds pay.
When you are on a losing streak never up the bets. You will just lose faster. I have done that too. When I lose and get more money out, 100% I lose that too. So far 100% loses when on losing streak and get more out to get even. Honestly not once have I got back any money once I withdraw more.
When you showed the leveling up why did you go from $60 to $80 on the DC shouldn’t it have been $120? I just learned this strat the other day so I’m trying to make sure I understand. Then you went from $80 to $100.
You mentioned several times that you can turn off your DC bets. Are you sure about that? I know that you can take down your DC and DP bets but I never heard that you can turn off your DC bets.
@@markthepoint I can’t remember the exact situation, but the dealer told me I could just say no action a few days ago, normally I’m not , but new to playing the dark side and I play craps about 4 times a week. As a new subscriber, keep up the great content!
@@markthepointhey buddy, no action means the DC will not travel and will stay in the DC box. You cannot turn off a DC bet, you need to do a place bet on the number to neutralize the DC. Then you can pull down your you place bet when you want the DC to be effective again.
I've had extensive craps play the last 3 months. I'm always chasing a loss and it's not worth it high entertainment I'm retiring it now. It's absolutely insane how it finds the holes all too often
Thanks for sharing your experience.. It is a very expensive game. unfortunately the tables are very difficult to overcome... We try to preach get out of the hand as soon as you can. And play with house Money.. If possible.... Let us know if you get back into it!
Your mistake, you didn't protect the don't with a lay on the 10 or the 4 twice the don't bet, you would have kept going if you had, then you marked one point as 6, it was a five, and you didn't remove a come off the 6 when you point seven out...
I would consider a Yo bet when I play the DC. Just in case the 11 comes out. Also the hard ways when your DC hits the even numbers as the person above mentioned. Not sure if hedging the DC bet with an any 7 would be profitable in the long run. Maybe in the beginning until you increase your bankroll
If your DC is a multiple of 12, you can hedge it with 1/3 of the bet split between hopping 7s (pays more than any 7 when bet in $3 increments) and yo. For example, $36 DC, $9 hopping 7s, $3 yo. If you roll a 7 or 11, you lose $45 and win $45--total breakeven. Upgrade or downgrade as needed ($12 DC, $3 7s, $1 yo, or $24 DC, $6 7s, $2 yo, etc.)
Shane Lee, I don't know where you're from but it's good to see someone else play this strategy correctly. You never allow the (7 or 11) to beat you under no circumstances. Once you get past the come out roll your advantage of winning becomes greater. I have a question, does the come bets work on the new Come Out Roll? Thank you!
@@frenchytatum3319 money in the Come is always working. Come bets moved to points are always working. Odds on come bets are off when the puck is off, but you can request they be turned on
I thoroughly enjoyed your explanation pertaining to this strategy. But, for the love of God, please pass the dice. Your new name should be Big Red. lol
Waylon NEVER LOSES know matter what strategy he does, losing is part of gambling, I appreciate your honesty. Waylon manipulates his video's to ALWAYS WIN l believe(Christ is king)
One benefit that Waylon has in his videos is Bankroll... With the Ladder style systems he uses, you have to have a big Bankroll to sustain substantial loss and battle back. Being able to put $500 on DC or place bets to recoup losses is easy because you have 5K to back up the bet. I personally don't feel he manipulates Anything, I believe he can just last out the bad with putting more money out there.. thank you for your feedback! Hope you continue to Come back and watch more content!
@@jeffnoble9757KING is KING. ! Used to be kings , and lords - and knights and earls and barons and of course, ladies . Now we have ,caste -rich/poor .
Thanks for explaining this and each detail so it's easy for a beginner to understand each roll, winnings, and potential losses. I've practiced this strategy hundreds of times at the $10 level in Crapsee in the past few weeks. More often than not, when I lose my DC, I'll lose it again when I replace it. Leveling up loses even more during the same hand. Since The Arnold is likelier to win on short rolls, I switched to not replacing the DC and continued with a 3-card Molly to minimize my losses. Also, if the DC lands on an even number, I bet $5 on its’ Hardway. I'll be on a 10-day cruise next week, so finally, I'll be able to see how it works with real money when the random rollers are shooting! BTW, have you seen your videos in VR? Your 'Mark, the Point' symbol on the bottom left looks even more 3-D!.
Your bankroll was only set for $10 level. You only level up when you lose that don’t pass bet.. you leveled up too early, and stayed leveled up. Your bankroll was too small.
Do NOT watch any other youtube videos about the Arnold. This is the one. The others are just stone cold nonsense and time wasted that you'll never get back. Don't say I didn't warn you.
I agree with you here the others guys just assume we know everything and fly through the explanation without describing key points. This video was fantastic
I'll have to go back and see which spot you are talking about.. But in the moment mistakes happen. Even dealer's that have been dealing for years make mistakes.. And im not a dealer.. I'm just a random guy trying to make fun videos... I hope you understand that and keep watching.. thank you for your feedback.👍🏼
This system is too vulnerable in places; it’s become a fad system, too. If it works for you, great, but I can’t stay with it long. You Don’t Come Bet is vulnerable at that 7 or 11, and when it gets on a point, you lose it when that pint is rolled. Too risky.
I used this strat at bubble craps in vegas and won quite a bit when at $3 level and $5 level... +$350 over 2 hours I also gave it one try at $15 level and got smacked with a dc repeater followed by a 7... -$135 super fast 😢
I appreciate how hard it is to deal, bet and narrate. but you make critical mistakes when you go too fast. keep trying to slow down and you will get better.
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This is how I would modify it...
If the DC gets knocked down, I don't replace it....I just add odds on the Come bets and let the roll finish out.......One DC per shooter rule...don't chase your loses
Not a bad idea ... I like the concept...
Last night had a shooter knock two dc's back to back. Said in not going in for another one. Shooter rolled 10, thought "dang that would be great dc." Shooter rolled it right back. Saved 100$ by not chasing with that shooter. Ended up +50% bankroll at the end of the night on blackjack lol.
That's exactly how I do it! Hard pivot into 3 point molly for the rest of the shooter since they're clearly hitting numbers.
I would modify this by betting the come bet before the DC. Often times rollers “seven out right away” and this would protect losing from an immediate seven out.
You were out of the dice gods favor on that one. I think it’s good to show the good and the bad of the strategies. Great video
@crappythecrapsman1107 Crappy!!! Welcome back my friend!!! Thanks for the stop by... Yes when the dice are not working, it can turn fast on ya! Yes. You have to show where a strategy is vulnerable.. Otherwise everyone thinks they will win every time...
Why didn't you take down the six & the pass line, at 15:50 when you rolled the 7?
Looks like I made a mistake.. It happens getting caught up in the Video.. Very sorry for that...
Thanks for the roll out and showing the levels. I played in Cherokee NC last weekend at a $5 level and quickly won $107. l was playing more aggressively with the levels but like yours better.
Thanks for the feedback! I can't afford the $25/ $100 levels 😂🤣 so I have to level down a little.
I have enjoyed this strategy immensely. Have practiced lots (7-0 today alone) 2-0 at the casino winning $109 and $151 with a $600 bankroll. Slight variation but minor. Sometimes adding odds at some point to increae the value of a 7.
Feels like it makes more sense to do the $40 on the don't pass, then just ride out the come bets. Then you'd only lose 40 instead of 50
I see your point... it's definitely a viable option.
Unless I’m mistaken at the 15:42 mark you seven’d out and you lost your DC bet but you didn’t remove (lose) the 6 and the point 10. A new shooter would be coming out. I’m I correct?
Yes. I sometimes make mistakes... Good catch!
@@markthepoint You’re welcome! Now if only the dealers at the table would forget…
Are you always adding a DC if it gets knocked out?
A better way to play the loss when a DC bet number repeats is not to put out a laddered up DC but just continue with the come bets instead. This way you can not lose the pass line, the DC and come bets all at one time. I have had rolls where I get a streak of come winners that actually wins back my DC loss, where I hit so many come bets that if I put up more DC bets they would have lost too. Just let the smoke clear and wait for the seven before jumping back on the DC bet.
Definitely a good idea! Getting knocked back to back DC can get brutal fast! Thanks for the input!
Im new to craps. While playing the arnold shoud you put odds on your pass bet
@@swinn848 I personally don't. It's reverse Odds meaning you have to lay more to get paid less.. but it is totally up to you.
Quick question on The Arnold from a novice. Playing at home and trying to understand the mechanics of this system. So scenario is I roll Come Out 4, next roll 10 for DC, and then roll 4 point out on the next roll before the Come bet has been established. I win the Pass Line $10, I lose the DC $40, but what happens to the Come Bet? Does it move to the 4, does it get paid anything, or does it go back in the rack? Help understanding what happens in that scenario would be much appreciated. Thanks brother!
Yes the DC would travel to the 4..And it is always working. So if you roll a 7 you would win if you don't knock off the 4
@@markthepoint Awesome! Thank you!
Are the rolls, in order: 4, 10,, 4?
@@jeffgardner4449 Yes. So the Come Out roll with $10 on Pass was 4. So Pass is now in play with point at 4. Put $40 on the Don't Come Bar, roll 10. The $40 goes to the 10, then I put $10 on the Come and roll 4. So if I understand correctly I win $10 on the Pass, I lose $40 on the DC, and the $10 Come moves to the 4 and the puck moves to OFF. I think I got that right.
Why is there a cut at 6:22? You rolled an 8, but switched to to a 6??
It didn't switch.. I see what you see.. I even did it in slow-mo to see what happened.. looks like the 6 was against the wall and it rolled back from the wall to a 4... In normal speed it does look funny.
But I promise there is no cut there. My rolls are 100% organic.
@@markthepointI figured it was something weird, because it wouldn't make sense to switch it from one number to another that have the same odds... lol
Used this method twice and had no luck but looking forward to seeing some results 🤘
Dang. We gotta have a few weapons to work with.. unfortunately that's how It goes... I made 6K on one system.. one day.. and Lost 1K another night...
This will fail😢
Saw crappy the craps man do a version of this about a year ago. It works.
Every system works until it doesn't. You're basically martingaling on this one. The nights things don't go your way you'll be setting money on fire.
Not when the shooter keeps hitting your DC numbers...
great video. although "leveling up" is just a fancy n-level martingale if we're being truthful here, which we know always works, until it doesn't work ;-)
Thank you sir!
Nicely done! thanks for the rollout
Thank you my friend! I appreciate it!
Just used this strategy all weekend in Vegas and do really well. Both table craps and bubble craps
Awesome Thanks for the update!!!
Love this system…have won even on a tough table!
This is one of the first methods that can beat my crappy IPhone app that throws sevens every 2nd to 3rd roll every time
Haha.. That's funny..🤣
I tried raising the DC up 1 unit on each loss and lowering it 1 unit on each win. So with $10 PL & Come with $10 odds I was using $80 units on the DC on WinCraps. I was losing so bad I wound up betting 15 units ($1200) on the DC. Just kept the other bets at $10. So when the DC wins with extra units on it, I get extra $ that isn't reduced by outstanding Come bets with odds. Hang around long enough at those higher DC bet levels it pays off big. But this game will slam several DC losses in a row and take away the winnings. So it's best to gauge when you're ahead at this game and by how much and is it possible to get back to an $80 unit on wins alone, or to just quit when you get back to a $400 DC bet from a much higher bet. You'll likely need more than $10,000 for this session (120 units X $80).
I haven't tried Wincraps. Is it better to never ladder? Could you run that scenario?
@@markthepoint I tried a ladder to max out at 5 units today and I still hit 15 losses behind on the DC. If I won those DC's back I would have had a big profit between the Come bets winning over a few hundred rolls and the DC bets paying off. But with 65 units behind on the DC, it's a big loss.
Does this strategy work on a "Crapless" craps game? That is all my local casino has.
Unfortunately no because there is no DC on a Crapless table.
Love the strategy, I had a good weekend playing it at the Harrahs casino in Murphy NC.
That's awesome! Congrats!
I love this system as well. But I modified it. Coming out in DC I use YO to offset if it gets wacked, 2 / 3 dollars for the $40 works. So only loose on 7's. Also my pass line / come bet is $5 with $5 for odds / $6 for 5/9 If I end up with tons of come bets out, I'll put odds on the DC to offset the comes when the 7 rolls out. If my DC gets wacked 2 times with same shooter, ill wait to level up till next shooter as we might have a hot shooter. If I see any craps number, ill through $5 out with extra $1 heavy on seeing that number again, like the 3's lol. You can also just do a $1 or $2 / 3 or whatever number you seen, especially if its wacking your come bet this will help! Its like offsetting the DC bet. I always keep a $5 bet out and up the odds up to 10x in my casino.
Sounds like a man with a plan.. I like the modifications!
5 $ World Bet
Question: Has anyone done this on online craps like brovada.
Personally I would stay away from Online Craps. I know some online craps has a mechanical arm... but if it is strictly Digital Craps.. I wouldn't play it... I Feel like the Database can be rigged against you no matter how you bet.... IMO
But maybe there is someone else who has a different experience.
Cool system- would love to see how it works when using odds
It would be interesting for sure!
Can you use this strategy if you are not the shooter?
Of course.. any bet is available on the table whether you are the shooter or not...
There isn't any difference.. however.. If you are the shooter, you are required to play a Pass line or Don't Pass to Shoot the dice.
Thank you!
Do you always play flat using the Arnold? Or do you back up your pass line bet and or put odds on the come and don’t come numbers?
Always Flat bets.
Best have deep pockets to use this bet /play strategy
How would I do this at a $15 table? $15 pass line, $60 don't come, then $15 come bets till point or big red? Would you recommend this for a "cold table"?
Yes. And absolutely.. Great for 2 hits and down.. But Very risky for a PSO or long runs that knocks off DC bets
Why not protect the $40 DC with $2.00 hops on the 7's 11...?
What is the best bankroll to apply this strategy on $10 table?
$700 to be safe... $500 could get really risky if you have to ladder up several times.
@@markthepoint I am confused about the ladder up part. Is it like a martingale?
@@kalukulolo1 no, no martingale.. You Only increase if you are out of profit....
In this case you would increase $20 on the Don't each Time... Ex.
1/4 ratio
$10/$40
$15/$60
$20/$80
$25/$100
I would never promote to martingale I don't like the idea to Chase losses.. But this Ladder can help you gain profits back faster if you are able to get on a run.
It doesn't technically matter since you 7d out but you rolled a 5 at around 8 mins but set the point to 6
Quick question on the strategy… on the don’t come bet- why not make a smaller bet like $10 and then put odds for the extra $30? That would limit the 7 out loss on the dc and pass on roll 2. Am I missing something? New to the game and channel but love the videos. Can you please answer / correct my thinking if that doesn’t work the way I am thinking? Thank you
I would say primarily because odds work the opposite for DP... You have to put a double odds or more odds to win Less... Where a straight DC pause even odds... Ex. If it was a 10, I would have to put $60 in odds to get paid $30. I personally don't like the idea... But I love the thinking outside the Box aspect! Thank you for stopping by!
@@markthepoint thank you! Makes sense the way you explain it now
Can you put odds on your pass or come bets in this strategy?
Absolutely if you want to put odds it's totally up to you... in this strat we elected not to...
I’ve watched a few videos on this method…nobody puts odds on the pass line…? Why is that? I’m a novice.
Most content providers typically don't play the pass line the math Shows that more money is made in the Box numbers vs Pass line with odds... I actually have a Video that shows this math.. I believe i call it. Which pays better... But essentially the pass line is a bad bet.. and typically I will stay away from it.
I think this is good when someone is rolling who does t set the dice. If someone is consistently rolling 6’s and 8’s I wouldn’t do this system. I set the dice and hit 6, 8, 9 and 10 a lot.
Where do you play at?
At close to 16 minutes When a 7 is rolled while youre in the dc you cant replace it until after the next comeout roll! That messed up the payouts and the rhythm of the dice rolls! You cant play the Arnold with 500 br either unless you're playing on bubble craps! Anyways thanks for the shout out brother
I'm trying to find it.. I hit the DC 6 @ min 16... Leveled up to $80 on the next Roll DC.. 10 was technically the Point.. I kinda said it wrong out loud...
Yeah 10 was the point and you 7 d out while in the DC ! You put a DC bet out on the comeout the next roll! You can't place a DC on the comeout roll
No worries though we all know all strategies will lose!
Not only did he lose the DC, but he also lost the point 10 and the come 6, but he didn't take them down.
@@ElevenBravo Teacher teaches . Students see mistakes, because Teacher has taught correctly. Students learn . Job is done . LOL
odds???
No, No odds on this one.
Protect the DC with a lay 4 or 10
and 3 bucks on 11
OMG. Can’t you put 25 on DC bet then add 75 after established?
Yes you can place Odds with the DC after it is set.. But it takes more to make less. Ex. point of 10.. you have to put $50 odds to make $25... Bs a higher DC and it's even odds pay.
@@markthepoint Is a lay bet , with no vig .
When you are on a losing streak never up the bets. You will just lose faster. I have done that too. When I lose and get more money out, 100% I lose that too. So far 100% loses when on losing streak and get more out to get even. Honestly not once have I got back any money once I withdraw more.
But It can be used as a recovery. But yes you are right.. If the Dice don't flow your way it can get Very nasty quick!
If you ever do viewer suggested rolls I recommend you roll out the 6,7,8 can’t lose strategy. $40 don’t pass $18 6 and 8.
Absolutely.. Will put that one on my radar... I have a few more coming up....
@@markthepoint sounds good man.
When you showed the leveling up why did you go from $60 to $80 on the DC shouldn’t it have been $120? I just learned this strat the other day so I’m trying to make sure I understand. Then you went from $80 to $100.
Basically you go up a Level.. 1/4 ratio... If you'l pass line is $10.. DC is $40... Pass line $20 DC is $80... It always stays that ratio.
You mentioned several times that you can turn off your DC bets. Are you sure about that?
I know that you can take down your DC and DP bets but I never heard that you can turn off your DC bets.
I'll have to dig into this answer... I believe you can. I will find out 100% and provide an update.
@@markthepointyou can just tell the dealer no action on it , so it stays up but off,
@@chadblackwood579 I thought so also.. But I'm not a dealer, when questioned, I wanted to make sure.
@@markthepoint I can’t remember the exact situation, but the dealer told me I could just say no action a few days ago, normally I’m not , but new to playing the dark side and I play craps about 4 times a week. As a new subscriber, keep up the great content!
@@markthepointhey buddy, no action means the DC will not travel and will stay in the DC box. You cannot turn off a DC bet, you need to do a place bet on the number to neutralize the DC. Then you can pull down your you place bet when you want the DC to be effective again.
Anyone who can't modify the $25 Arnold to $10 or $15 has no business playing craps. 😂
I agree... Simple math. But many people asked me.. So I gotta give what the people want..🤣😂
Why not throw 5 bucks on Big Red when you have $40 in the DC box???
This is definitely an idea! Especially at the $40 level.. trying to hedge at a $100 level could get pretty costly...
I've had extensive craps play the last 3 months. I'm always chasing a loss and it's not worth it high entertainment I'm retiring it now. It's absolutely insane how it finds the holes all too often
Thanks for sharing your experience.. It is a very expensive game. unfortunately the tables are very difficult to overcome... We try to preach get out of the hand as soon as you can. And play with house Money.. If possible.... Let us know if you get back into it!
Be sure to break Waylon's Way Craps off a little something for helping you with the content....
Similar without The Come Bet, I HATE the Come Bet, Told Waylon that
I'm not a huge fan of the Come bet... But it helps on short rolls when the 7 shows up.
Your mistake, you didn't protect the don't with a lay on the 10 or the 4 twice the don't bet, you would have kept going if you had, then you marked one point as 6, it was a five, and you didn't remove a come off the 6 when you point seven out...
Cover the come bets with a $2 any craps bet.
The DC bet is a contract bet, just like the Come. You can take the DC down, but you can not just turn it off and on.
Well it's not a contract bet because it can be taken down. It's more like a lay. If it's up there, it's on, but you can take it down
Play the odds , or DON'T . LOL !
I've tried the Arnold 4 different times on Crapsee and have lost (usually) big every time. Just can't get it to roll out like Waylon has been....
DANG. very sorry to hear that. Unfortunately it is all how the dice roll.. In this second session you can see how fast the dice can turn.
Have your tried the Darnold?
I haven't yet... Will check it out!
I would consider a Yo bet when I play the DC. Just in case the 11 comes out. Also the hard ways when your DC hits the even numbers as the person above mentioned. Not sure if hedging the DC bet with an any 7 would be profitable in the long run. Maybe in the beginning until you increase your bankroll
Definitely an option. It can have variation... Whatever fits your style for sure!
If your DC is a multiple of 12, you can hedge it with 1/3 of the bet split between hopping 7s (pays more than any 7 when bet in $3 increments) and yo.
For example, $36 DC, $9 hopping 7s, $3 yo. If you roll a 7 or 11, you lose $45 and win $45--total breakeven. Upgrade or downgrade as needed ($12 DC, $3 7s, $1 yo, or $24 DC, $6 7s, $2 yo, etc.)
Shane Lee, I don't know where you're from but it's good to see someone else play this strategy correctly. You never allow the (7 or 11) to beat you under no circumstances. Once you get past the come out roll your advantage of winning becomes greater. I have a question, does the come bets work on the new Come Out Roll? Thank you!
@@frenchytatum3319 money in the Come is always working. Come bets moved to points are always working. Odds on come bets are off when the puck is off, but you can request they be turned on
I thoroughly enjoyed your explanation pertaining to this strategy. But, for the love of God, please pass the dice. Your new name should be Big Red. lol
I know I know.. Very sorry you have to endure that!
You can not turn the Don'ts off.
Waylon NEVER LOSES know matter what strategy he does, losing is part of gambling, I appreciate your honesty. Waylon manipulates his video's to ALWAYS WIN l believe(Christ is king)
One benefit that Waylon has in his videos is Bankroll... With the Ladder style systems he uses, you have to have a big Bankroll to sustain substantial loss and battle back. Being able to put $500 on DC or place bets to recoup losses is easy because you have 5K to back up the bet. I personally don't feel he manipulates Anything, I believe he can just last out the bad with putting more money out there.. thank you for your feedback! Hope you continue to Come back and watch more content!
@@markthepoint thanks for your response I totally understand your excellent point and I will continue watching, Christ is king??(king of what)🧞
@@jeffnoble9757KING is KING. ! Used to be kings , and lords - and knights and earls and barons and of course, ladies . Now we have ,caste -rich/poor .
your video cuts are funny
Thank You my friend!!!
Thanks for explaining this and each detail so it's easy for a beginner to understand each roll, winnings, and potential losses.
I've practiced this strategy hundreds of times at the $10 level in Crapsee in the past few weeks. More often than not, when I lose my DC, I'll lose it again when I replace it. Leveling up loses even more during the same hand.
Since The Arnold is likelier to win on short rolls, I switched to not replacing the DC and continued with a 3-card Molly to minimize my losses. Also, if the DC lands on an even number, I bet $5 on its’ Hardway.
I'll be on a 10-day cruise next week, so finally, I'll be able to see how it works with real money when the random rollers are shooting!
BTW, have you seen your videos in VR? Your 'Mark, the Point' symbol on the bottom left looks even more 3-D!.
That's awesome! I'll have to find someone who has a VR... I hope you do great on your trip!! Let us know The results!
You never pulled the pass line and the come bet on the 6 off the table for a loss when you sevened out when you had the $80.00 don't come bet loss.
Surprised you don't throw a hardway 8 or 6 when your DC goes to them. Cheap way to at least get a little insurance.
Very true!
I used the arnold at Hard Rock and got killed . Need that big bankroll to come back.
Did you use the original $25/100? It's tough to go out at lower Bankroll.. You have to have 3-4 good hits to build it first...
Your bankroll was only set for $10 level. You only level up when you lose that don’t pass bet.. you leveled up too early, and stayed leveled up. Your bankroll was too small.
The Arnold system requires 5k bankroll at the $25 dollar level. You were playing $10 dollars which means your bankroll should have been minimum $2000.
Do NOT watch any other youtube videos about the Arnold. This is the one. The others are just stone cold nonsense and time wasted that you'll never get back. Don't say I didn't warn you.
I agree with you here the others guys just assume we know everything and fly through the explanation without describing key points. This video was fantastic
You should separate Beginner videos
This is very Slooooow it’s almost hard to watch
Thanks for helping people have fun
Sorry for that... I may look into that in the future.
You lost me when you rolled Big Red and then leveled up the DC without collecting all the player's money.
I'll have to go back and see which spot you are talking about.. But in the moment mistakes happen. Even dealer's that have been dealing for years make mistakes.. And im not a dealer.. I'm just a random guy trying to make fun videos...
I hope you understand that and keep watching.. thank you for your feedback.👍🏼
You didn’t apply the technique correctly if your getting hit stay at the flat ten bet according to Waylon.
Woof woot. Thumbs Up 👍🏾 Everyone
Thank you my friend! Always appreciate the support!
This system is too vulnerable in places; it’s become a fad system, too. If it works for you, great, but I can’t stay with it long. You Don’t Come Bet is vulnerable at that 7 or 11, and when it gets on a point, you lose it when that pint is rolled. Too risky.
I happen to agree.. I'm not a Big fan on Don't bets either...
Thanks for your input!
The black arnold is a better system.
I used this strat at bubble craps in vegas and won quite a bit when at $3 level and $5 level... +$350 over 2 hours
I also gave it one try at $15 level and got smacked with a dc repeater followed by a 7... -$135 super fast 😢
I shoulda stayed slow and steady 😅
Haha.. it's a beating When the dice don't cooperate for sure! Hopefully you still walked away with profit...
I appreciate how hard it is to deal, bet and narrate. but you make critical mistakes when you go too fast. keep trying to slow down and you will get better.
HE SAID I ONLY MADE $85 IN 1 HR LMFAO. TELL ME WHERE U COUKD GET A JOB PAYING $85 AN HOUR LMFAO
I get it... You're right.. I guess I just have higher expectations when it comes to the tables... 😆
Tldr; The Arnold isn't a very good strategy...Next.
It's not a bad system.. But the risk is knocking off the DC bet. And knowing you have to level up to get into profit.