Shogun Episode 4 Breakdown | "The Eightfold Fence" Recap & Review
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- Shogun Season 1 Episode 4 Breakdown. In-depth recap and review for Shogun - S01E04 “The Eightfold Fence” with the ending explained. Please Subscribe 👉 ua-cam.com/users/petepeppers...
Shogun is the new FX/Hulu historical drama based on James Clavell's 1975 novel of the same name. In episode 4 John Blackthorne (Cosmo Jarvis) is furious when he learns he will have to stay in the remote fishing village to train troops for six months. Lord Toranaga (Hiroyuki Sanada) leaves for Edo and Lady Mariko (Anna Sawai) helps Blackthorne set up the new household he's entitled to as a hatamoto. The conflict escalates when Toranaga's son makes an impulsive decision.
S1E4
"The Eightfold Fence"
Director Frederick E.O. Toye
Writers Nigel Williams & Emily Yoshida
Blackthorne and Mariko test their new alliance as they train Toranaga's gun regiment for war. Yabushige must navigate his past promises to Ishido when an old friend comes to the village.
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I'm going to try to get 2 and 3 out before the new episode comes out next week. This episode was really promising and I can't wait for more. Let me know what you think.
They could be a combined video.
This series is amazing… glad you were able to get to it!!!
The series is great on many levels. Including its attention to historical detail. The original story involved Blackthorne teaching musket tactics, but this show points out the samurai can expertly wield guns (which is historically accurate). On the show's podcast, a historical advisor noted that they chose to change the story and pivot to a training on cannons, hinting that this will pay off more later (as it did in history).
thanks, my subs only showed e3 recap, had to be told it was up.
Don't you just hate those barbarians!😅⚔️
Fuji's facial expressions were amazing through out the whole episode. Her face told the whole story in every scene she was in
Fuji is cute!
Fuji is quickly becoming my favorite character. I hope she has an excellent story line.
The face-acting is definitely something I've noticed as being so good in every episode...Fuji's is the best so far! 👏
Her reaction with the pistol was fierce and brave. For her to find love and a family with Blackthorne would be so wonderful but I think they want to promote a different love interest.
@@RussellStrosniderShe is destined to be Johns wife, Mariko’s fate in under the sword 😢
I love when Fuji “respectfully” tell the other guy to go to hell. Kept winding back to that scene
Fuji is amazing, every scene with her is written in her face
You mean Fuji Sama, The Highborn niece of Mariko’s samurai husband Buntaro, Waifu of John the Anjin 😅
@@sonm1na Yes, that also.... But Moeka Hoshi ( Fujiko ) is very cute, and is very expressive with her face, and those eyes... Some people ( including me ) think Moeka Hoshi and Anna Sawai should have swapped roles....
Gosh dang, Fuji wielding that gun was cuteness overload...
One of the best scene on this episode
I just think of that meme "Hello motherfucker" when she points the gun at Omi. 😂
Bro what.
White men and their obsession with Asian women
Fuji is ride or die. Wish American women were this way.
Fuji was the highlight of this episode. Amazing actress
Many of us love Moeka Hoshi as Fujiko.... If she had been cast as Mariko, then it is 1000 % better, IMO....
Fuji cocking the guns was my favorite part of the episode and the whole series yet. I rewatched twice just for that.
This show just keeps getting better and better.
agreed
Hell ya!!!
dude, that ending. i can't get over it. it is not often that i see something like that which is so unsettling when i feel like "i've seen this before."
Fuji wielding the guns with her sleeves is just so... cute 😂
not to spoil it but Fuji becomes a legendary gun fighter in the war to come
Dumb comment.
"Not to spoil" spoils. Bruh@@arcticredpanda4598
Fujiko is cute.....!
@@arcticredpanda4598not to spoil it , proceeds to spoil it cmon bruh stop
ahem, that's Mariko _SAMA_ to you, barbarian.
Haha
Such a great show. Great review and insights as always Pete!
Best analysis of the series. Thank you.
Hooray more episode breakdowns! I love the series so much so far. Glad my local library had a copy. Small changes but I’m loving both versions
Fuji is now my favorite best girl
the most broken hearted, what she has gone thru for no reason really.
Fujiko is cute, hot, and dangerous with guns !
Enjoyed these breakdowns and some details I missed. :)
Been waiting for you to pick this show up!
What I like about your breakdown is that you don't act all smug for having read the book but instead use it to back up your analysis. And you don't pretend to speculate when you actually know what will happen just to seem smarter. A lot of people on UA-cam do these things and it really annoys me
its making me want to visit Japan! beautifully filmed and well acted, I cant wait for next week!
Osaka is one of my favorite cities
The garden in St. Louis is nice
Great intro to what is clearly a fascinating series, Thks.
Thanks for jumping on this series Pete!
no problem. I had always planned on covering it but wasn't available for the first two weeks.
It’s peppers 🌶️
Even Blackthorn got himself surprised by the effect of that chain shot.
thanks Pete
No doubt, watching these breakdowns after each episode really helps me understand better what I might be missing reading the subtitles.
I found your channel during Silo, looking forward for your breakdowns.
Excellent breakdown, thank you so much! Any plans for a Dune 2 breakdown?
Favorite episode so far!
I'm enjoying the presentation of Shogun. I find the little deviations from the 1980 version interesting and enjoy the different interpretations as the mini-series provides. I do have a problem with the actress that is portraying Mariko, Anna Sawai, is miscast. I find it a difficult distraction that her English is not what one would expect from someone who grew up with another first language and her facial expressions are far too definitive for a Japanese woman. When I hear Sawai speak my mind is envisioning someone who grew up in California, Florida or some less well-known US possession in the Pacific ocean and that distracts me from becoming immersed in the character and her performance. Fuji on the other hand I find very genuine and I actually enjoy the slightly different interpretation of her story. I think overall this interpretation is less cushioned for our western morals and I prefer the truth in this production thus far. I was disappointed in Mariko being clearly identified as she comes to Blackthorn's bed as opposed to the innuendo of that action in the 1980's version where the Mariko character denies that it was her and alluding that there was nothing wrong with her providing him her maid in the night leaving us unsure but suspecting that it was truly her. I like this latter approach reinforcing the discreet and covert aspects of both social and political behavior which is not necessarily exclusive to Japanese society. I'm very much enjoying the presentation and look forward to discovering how the production makes other interpretations which differ from the 1980's version in future episodes. Like most of you I can't wait to see the next one either. I am grateful that they did not release all of the episodes at once or I would certainly be sleep deprived until I watched them all. Cheers !
Keep in mind whenever you hear Mariko speaking English, it is only English for our sake, she is actually speaking Portuguese with Blackthorne
If I was Blackthorne, I would prefer Fujiko...... She is cute and hot !
Wasn't going to watch this show, then watched your vid on episode 1. Proceeded too binge all 4 episodes yesterday and I'm hooked. Show landing somewhere between black sails and the last samurai.
*to, not too.
Spot on as always. Many reviewers talk so much crap, especially the stupid GOT comparisons. So your Shogun videows are a true blessing.
I have a crush on the actress who portray as Mariko❤
You and me both, pal.
Since *AMERICAN NINJA!*
She's a babe
Pete! So glad you picked this show up. It’s some of the most gorgeous television since early GoT!
There's an "early" Game of Thrones?
@@clvrswine earlier seasons*
Kiku seems like shes definitely one of those assasins that targeted Blackthorn earlier in the season.
No, she's the towns high class escort that hears everything. She has NO high status thou, and is still property under contract.
enter Tora-sama@@kevinprince9527
at 8:43 I can make out snippets of the text that read things like "[...] we agreed to [...]" "[...] sent a letter and at night [...]" (the text is quite small and out of focus) so I think we can definitively say that Blackthorn did write his journal in English.
Especially if I were close to Toranaga, I would do whatever I could in supporting him because of how vital and imperative it is that he win.
I am so enjoying this series.
Episode 4 was a banger, and while I very much enjoyed eps 1 - 3, there was some world building that's really starting to pay off now, and I'm here for it. I'm digging this show almost entirely, the only weak spot is all the lens flare/blurring the frame to hide/blend the overabundance of major CGI, which sometimes takes me out of the narrative. So far I'm giving Shogun an 8 out of 10, glad you're covering it Pete.
cgi is ok for tv but the fish lens and blur is the only gripe i have. unneeded and only diminishes the wonderful set design.
Watched episode 1 but haven't been able to get into this version. Loved the one with Richard Chamberlain back in the day.
You need to watch Episode 2, and I think you will be hooked. It's better than the old version.
please breakdown ep 2-3
working on it
A little confused, has an Episode 2 thumbnail, but it seems like it is about Episode 4.
I fixed the thumbnail
Kiko was the informant right? Seems like she has some higher motivation or task given from the regents to sow chaos within torenagas allies.
I like how blackthorn was about show chain shot but the edit leaves it out until the end when you can hear it whistle towards the samurai- the end always ends up me wanting more. Such great show.
Toranaga is like a Loki, mischief.
You talked about lady Chiba but did not show any picture of her
I always thought she did send a courtesan and he thought it was her because it was so dark.
Agreed, definitely was a good episode.
Anyone else having problems with the subtitles on Hulu being out of sync (appearing too early by a second or so)?
That ending was brutal, horrifying and totally awesome 😅
At eight minutes forty-four, the page is written in English I can see the word "friendly" in there and the term "sent a letter" as well. As well as recurrent letter groupings only English really has.
There are lots of shows I’ve loved, there are a few I put into a category all their own; Band of Brothers, Peeky Blinders, Man in the High Castle just to name a few. Shogun is 100% on the short list.
Not Lidore, but Tidore, one of the Moluccas Islands and at this time a Portuguese trading post in the Sultanate of Tidore. Trouw, one of the expedition ship's was lost there with all surviving hands under Baltazar de Cordes when they were killed by the Portuguese on 3 January 1601.Wieder, Frederick Casper(1923). De reis van Mahu en De Cordes door de Staat van Magalhaes naar Zuid-Amerika en Japan 1598-1600 Vol 1:304.
ahh, good to know
btw, why do some outside shots look like really bad cgi/greenscreen
Cannon balls flying through people. I think those were "chain shots".
any episode with fuji-san in it is a good episode! >
Is it the thumbnail review or title 😅
Fuji best girl beyond a doubt
Where is the breakdown for episode 3? 😫
"It also seemed right to end on Mariko's face..."
This is the first work since directed by Akira Kurosawa that expresses the image of the Japanese samurai, and is a wonderful piece of work.
Wrong.
This episode was definitely..adorable. As I could describe it. It felt adorable and cute, except for the ending. But I suppose you need to have some yin with the yang.
Small thing : Why do you pronounce Ishido "Ashido" everytime?
I had a feeling that Mariko is not a "good/loyal" character in this. She seem to hide her ambition.
I remember watching Richard Chamberlain in the o.g Shogun as a youth- This is WAY BETTER!
Try putting this guys videos on 1.25, a lot better😂
Yeah I had to do 1.5x. I don't have the patience for slow speakers. I have a feeling he does it on purpose to pad out the run time.
Fuji is the best character so far. The Actress is killing it!
Yes, Fujiko is cute and hot !... Many of us think that Moeka Hoshi would have been better cast as Mariko...?
Being a big fan of the book, having read it several times, and a huge fan of the 1980 Series (I own the DVDs), I was wary of this remake because the two source materials were so outstanding, how could a remake possibly be better. But I'm pleasantly surprised. So far this is a masterpiece - staying with the book, but also looking at things more through the eyes of the Japanese than the Gai-Jin. I would love it if Fx re-made Tai-Pan as that is my favorite of Clavell's books and the Movie starring Brian Brown was disappointing. Hai Peppers-Sama - Domo
Being "hatamoto" requires him to be part of a samurai family, hence Fujiko-san, who lost her husband, who is from a samurai family herself. You should listen to the official podcast.
The writers need to step it up with Fuji, she seems to be doing all things right at the moment but I'm sure that she could do better.
I don't know if that was Mariko that got in the bed with Blackthorne maybe that went over my head
i look for everywhere, most of all said it Mariko. i thought Mariko disguised herself as a courtesan so Fuji can accept it.
It was Mariko for sure. If you pause the scene there isn't any question and the actress talked about it on the official podcast with one of the writers of the episode.
Uh, mini series. Not seasonal…
Dissociation, basically.
Before there was a John Blackthorne, Hatamoto, in feudal Japan there was the Samurai Yasuke. Yasuke, born in Mozambique, was a former slave who gained employment as a bodyguard to an Italian jesuit missionary. They traveled to Japan in 1579 where Yasuke lietrally beame a celebraty with his social charm and stature. Eventually Yasuke gained employment as a sword bearer for the Daimyo.
I believe Yasuke story will make an awesome movie.
Using a rifle company, as in the book, to take out Jozen and his crew makes much more sense than firing cannon quite close to Toranaga's and Yabu's people. Why not stick to the book? I'm pretty sure the screen writers aren't going to out do Clavell.
1423! what?
So did Mariko sleep with him because she wanted to or it was arranged?
I've been watching this one and Constellation lately and they're both diamonds 💎.
Super shocked the outsider got to hook up with the local girl with the mean husband. the writers really went all out with that one
That local girl slept with many people
It was once that mariko and the britt would hook up
Can someone verify what was the dish they were eating during the dinner scene where Blackthorne tries natto for the first time. I assumed it was a small fillet of grilled mackerel but I am not 100% sure. I am trying to replicate that same menu for my next viewing
No one needs to verify anything. You might mean identify.
あの時代（BC1600年）に納豆があったかどうか判りません、 🐟魚はイワシ（干物）が多かったと思います😅😅😅
Fermented soybeans.
Nattokinase is a great supplement made from them by the way
Thank you@@user-is2uy7tc7x
Thanks for the correction@@clvrswine
They changed it with him teaching muskets to cannons after a historical advisor told them Japan had them for 60 years. And the cannons are based off real cannons.
And it would make sense for the Portuguese to give bas older cannons than newer English cannons.
The historian they talk to on the Official Podcast is great
@@PetePeppers1 here's something unlikely to be brought up is japanese muskets were effective at 30 yards against fully armoured samurai while japanese bows were only effective at 10 yards. Keep up the good work o7
It also makes more sense, as is explained in the show itself.
Blackthorne would not be well trained in infantry line tactics, but he would as a naval privateer be schooled in the at the time modern gunnery.
how strong woman are written!
Fuji and mariko!!! LEARN FROM THIS DISNEY AND HOLLYWOOD !!!! LEARN !!!
I think what struck the Zuko and his Samurai was cannon chain shot. The day before Blackthorne had mentioned loading and firing the cannon with chain shot. Cannon balls by themselves are too pinpoint to cause that kind of damage. Those samurai were torn to bits.
you're probably right
Was it realy Mariko in the bedroom ? since on the shogun movie from 1980 it was her maid
In the 1980 series, it was Mariko. But in the conversation between them in the morning, she explained to him how dangerous it was for her since Buntaro was still alive. So she made it clear to Blackthorn that there had to be a carefully constructed lie to cover their tracks.
In this one, Buntaro is dead (for now). But it was still majorly inappropriate for them to get together. They did a good job of making it clear it was Mariko while allowing everyone to believe it was some courtesan.
It's her it looked just like her
I almost want Fuji & John to be end game. Like I love Mariko, but FUJI is THAT GIRL
Many of us love Fujiko... Very cute and hot !
fuji(藤)=Wisteria
The thing you missed that was a highlight in the episode for me was when yabu proudly leads toranaga into the village, where yabu’s wife bought expensive sake. While the soldiers in unison cheering to the motions of toranga’s fan, yabu turns around to discover with dismay toranaga still fan-leading the cheers but leaving on the boat. Yabu’s face was confused and disappointed and his wife saying she should’ve bought the cheaper sake, it was comedy.
im not sure that's yabu's wife. that's the courtesan manager woman from the books iirc.
I watched the latest episode last night it was awesome so far not exactly like the Shogun of the 80's but I think it might be better in many ways Jozen has taken a bold action wowser.
I know the story... *the novel* ... very well. And I've been loving this so much. Pretty much have had every epi playing on repeat almost... until now.
Episode 4 is fine, if a bit rushed about Mariko and Blackthorn's time in Ajiro. Still... It's great... right up until the writers blow the story all to hell with Toranaga's son turning cannons on Jozen. As far as I can tell, with this one completely unnecessary re-write they have made it impossible to tell the rest of the story even close to how it was written.
They've done So. Freaking. Well. with it so far I just don't understand why they had to do this! I honestly have no idea how they can possibly get it back on track.
They made *such* a big deal about being authentic. And I love that! I just wish they could've managed to be as faithful to the writer.
real life john's crew would have spoken dutch not english
they did and everyone else is generally speaking Portuguese when they're talking but the show just had them speak English so everything wasn't subtitled.
In the book, Blackthorne told his crew to talk in ' gutter dutch '.... as some of the people nearby might be able to understand Portuguese...
I felt zero chemistry between Blackthorne and Mariko in earlier episodes. I guess the hot spring scene changed everything and then she jumps into his bed. That's pretty hilarious. Mariko has plenty of freedom for a newly widowed 17th century woman.
Weird take
I saw the chemistry
I think it’s clear they have both been starved for connection for some time and blown away by finding it in one another
Its pretty obvious they want them to hook up
If it's not obvious Kiko is the spy in the village. She's probably another assassin.
The spy was the older man Blackthorn first spoke too. It was revealed at the end of ep 1
Dude, say their names right. It's not "Merrico", it's "Mah-ree-koe". You sound silly, just sayin.
Most enraptured I’ve been with a show since Fargo
八门遁甲，八扇门
Good show, but I find it extremely annoying how the main protagonist is English, and on top of it he’s an extremely moral charming brave character. England had nothing to do with early Spanish Portuguese explorations of new peoples and land. It’s kind of like having a story of the American revolution with the main protagonist being a a moral brave intelligent handsome Mexican. The discovery of Japan its people and its land is Portuguese history not English history. It’s Beyond annoying
Blackthorne is based on a historical character who became a hatamoto for Tokugawa Ieyasu. The story takes a lot of creative liberties, but an English sailor arriving on a Dutch vessel while the Portuguese had control over trade in the region isn't one of them.
@@PetePeppers1 do you know who Peter Francisco is?
I enjoy movies and shows, but dont understand how Americans love praising actors so much. As if they're cultural heroes. They pretend for a living. And they get paid way WAY WAY too much for it. And Hollywood is far more disgusting behind the scenes than most have any idea. So as someone who is from Europe, it's just odd seeing and hearing Americans essentially worship these actors. "Look at how well they make faces, and portray emotions...".. Yes they're very good at being other people. In Europe we call people who enjoy fooling others "sociopaths".
It is NOT MEH-RIKO ... !!! It is MA-RI-KO... these Yankees twist every language
She’s from New Zealand of Japanese descent
I like it but don’t love it, yet. It’s feeling promising. I like the visuals, but it’s been dragging on.
Sorry, but this isn't a Marvel movie. It's based on literature, where there are no "visuals" to like.
Dragging? Wtf?
shogun is supposed to be nearly all intrigue and little action lmao
It's overrated
If you think that this presentation is ' dragging on ', then you should read the book... This is 100 times faster than the book ....?
Are we missing 2 & 3???
I'm working on them.
Please use more question marks so that you come off as more annoying.
I think the men were killed with chain shot and not cannon balls as he had just explained to the gun crews ....Hence the bodies ripped to pieces !
Good show then? Worth getting into? I was worried it was going to be another Marco Polo where things happen like the little European merchant beats Khutulun at wrestling and teaches Kubalai Khan what seige engines are 🙄😂🙄
Marco polo was better tbh this is a mini series it's not worth getting into