Oddly enough, this is actually what was already happening with Japan towards the end of the Sengoku Jidai under the Oda and Toyotomi clans. It was when the Tokugawa came to power and after experiencing Portuguese missionaries and the invasion of Korea, decided the rest of the world wasn’t for them and closed it all off. They felt the outside world would be a threat to their grip on power and restricted everything to just a bit of trade with the Dutch in very specific areas. You don’t have to prevent the Sengoku Jidai, you just have to prevent the rise of Tokugawa specifically which if you’ve read the history of his battles, isn’t hard. He took a lot of huge gambles both while serving under the Oda in the conflicts against the Takeda clan but also in both of the major succession grapples after the death of Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Tokugawa Ieyasu could have very easily been killed in any of the three conflicts. He made a lot of crazy gambles on the battlefield and got insanely lucky.
I think it’s important to note merchants were at the bottom of the social castes during the ashikaga and tokugawa shogunates, while merchants would be incredibly wealthy they would be restricted in traditional and mainland society, which could be the unrest and ambitious emperor would need to restore imperial authority
In my personal view, Japan being a superpower in East Asia meant that colonization in Southeast Asia and East Asia was not hunted because they had to fear Japanese power. If Japan had started colonization before the Sengoku period or after the end of the Sengoku period, but the Tokugawa shogunate closed the country, causing exploration to stop. In fact, Japan already had the idea of expanding its power, like Oda Nobunaga. If he had not died, he would have colonized and might have taken over China.
The only part that's really inaccurate is why would resistant movements start? From I've seen, it's not like they were committing mass genocide on these people, like they were living comfortably, not too mention they've ruled over them for centuries, at that point they would call themselves Japanese, but most of all, why would an Indonesian Identity even exist? That name is actually very modern and only came about in the last 150 years, and after ruling over those islands for over 600 years, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for them too call themselves Indonesians. Also why would Japans American colonies also want independents? First of all, they haven't fought in any major wars, so saying they don't want to die for an empire so far away wouldn't make sense. Second of all, the only reason the British empire disbanded and was because America forced it too, through embargos and other political means, otherwise Canada was fine being apart of the British empire for so long, third of all, even if they suddenly received independence, you know what's going to happen, America is gonna swoop in, commit genocide on the Japanese America and take over the west Coast, so they really are better off under the Japanese empire.
i believe that Russia would not be much of a world power, it would not be able to expand into central, south and east asia because the local tribes would stop them (and the tribes would expand into China after it's fall). i also believe that Japan and Britain would form an alliance against USA, in which Japan would take the resources of the great flatlands and perhaps use native americans to cross the mountains safely and fight USA while Britain would disarm USA and maybe even take it back. I also believe that Japan eventually would try to expand into India if it would manage to undermine Britain. In WW1, I believe they'd sieze the opportunity to take down rival nations and succesfully establish a world hegemony along with Germany. Then, I believe they'd just decolonize most of the world and establish economic superiority over the world, replacing modern day USA.
I think European bigotry might be worse. “The oriental horde” but by sea. Might legit scare the Europeans especially depending on how brutal the Japanese are. Good video but I think you high ball Japanese disunity. They do have a lot more numbers than the British did. Plus a very homogeneous country. Many areas would have a Japanese majority and likely stay loyal because empire would have welfare benefiting Japanese citizens. Given Nanking and comfort women this empire would likely be brutal especially to non Japanese even if democratic among Japanese themselves. Militarism would be high.
That’s precisely why Japan was never gonna become a super power had they helped out China against the western powers they could’ve taken more territory and even expanded in the interior or Russia possible even threatening Europe by land. But they ruined at all. Japan was far from embracing orientalism.
This Empire is a Shogunate, the actual Empire of Japan that did Nanking was brutal for unique reasons in it's formation, none of which would be prevalent here.
@@vetabeta9890 the samurai were described as brutal by most foreigners too. Japanese were infamous to the chinese as pirates(think similar to Vikings in Europe). The first invasion of Korea by the Japanese in 1592 did almost win but they were brutal to the locals. The benefits of empire would favor the Japanese the most. Especially if Shintoism is still the most dominant faith. They would be more like Romans and less like the UK. If they were brutal in 1939 imagine how brutal they could be in 1592. The difference is technology and scale.
@@DillionMatt the Wakoku pirates weren’t specifically Japanese, they were Korean, Chinese and SEA as well. They weren’t unusually brutal in Korea, anytime an army with arquebuses that had 150 years of martial experience vs a country who had been at peace for centuries it’s gonna look overwhelmingly brutal.
We would have been aliens by now for sure if japan was a superpower like Soviet union or usa .mars would have been so close by now i mean reaching there.cause japan is all about technology, disciplines, respect,calm , practicality
With a weakened China, France would expand their indochina influence into southern China and be somewhat of a buffer between Japan and Britain. You don't describe the relationship with the Dutch and how an opened Japan would have reacted to the christian missionaries. Also you don't describe how Japanese colonisation works. Is it just control of tribes and nations with a small nippon elite? Or is there a dense colonisation in America for example? Why did many people move, and what part of japanese society leaves and colonize? I don't really see the japanese colons in America rebelling. It's an easy parallel with the U.S. but there are several cultural and philosophical differences that would rather point to a gradual given independance from the home empire like Australia and Canada in OTL. I think with nationalism in Cina, it's far more likely that Mandchurian, Korean and Indonesians rebel to create their own states.
You make some very good points! I was thinking of America and Taiwan being colonised by a lot of japanese immigrants while Indonesia and Korea being only led by a japanese elite. As to who exactly leaves the mainland to colonise, I got to say I haven’t really thought about that. I don’t think missionaries would have a big effect on Japanese society if they would be as strong as the european powers.
If you do decide to do a part 2, you should focus on the American public, America would've never joined both world wars without a justification, and since pearl harbor doesn't even exist in this timeline, I'd imagine the American public would rebel against their government for forcing them to fight against the Japanese, especially since for over a 190 years they didn't exactly do anything to America, it was a peaceful coexistence. Don't underestimate American morale, without a tragedy like pearl harbor, it would be very hard to convince the American people to fight in a world war.
This is basically what if everything went perfect for japan
"What if japan had the luck of the USA?"
“What if Japan is European but not in Europe?”
This is a fascinating video mate and I hope it gets a part two. I look forward to checking out more of your content and greetings from Australia.
Oddly enough, this is actually what was already happening with Japan towards the end of the Sengoku Jidai under the Oda and Toyotomi clans. It was when the Tokugawa came to power and after experiencing Portuguese missionaries and the invasion of Korea, decided the rest of the world wasn’t for them and closed it all off. They felt the outside world would be a threat to their grip on power and restricted everything to just a bit of trade with the Dutch in very specific areas. You don’t have to prevent the Sengoku Jidai, you just have to prevent the rise of Tokugawa specifically which if you’ve read the history of his battles, isn’t hard. He took a lot of huge gambles both while serving under the Oda in the conflicts against the Takeda clan but also in both of the major succession grapples after the death of Toyotomi Hideyoshi. Tokugawa Ieyasu could have very easily been killed in any of the three conflicts. He made a lot of crazy gambles on the battlefield and got insanely lucky.
Japan was superpower, will be ultra superpower eventually. Be prepared.
Not even close 😂
Economically Maybe? But Millitary Wised Yeah No
@@Myprobable952military wise the IJN was the third strongest navy the world had seen
@@Myprobable952 Even economically japan is stagnating, hard.
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I think it’s important to note merchants were at the bottom of the social castes during the ashikaga and tokugawa shogunates, while merchants would be incredibly wealthy they would be restricted in traditional and mainland society, which could be the unrest and ambitious emperor would need to restore imperial authority
good job man
In my personal view, Japan being a superpower in East Asia meant that colonization in Southeast Asia and East Asia was not hunted because they had to fear Japanese power. If Japan had started colonization before the Sengoku period or after the end of the Sengoku period, but the Tokugawa shogunate closed the country, causing exploration to stop. In fact, Japan already had the idea of expanding its power, like Oda Nobunaga. If he had not died, he would have colonized and might have taken over China.
The only part that's really inaccurate is why would resistant movements start? From I've seen, it's not like they were committing mass genocide on these people, like they were living comfortably, not too mention they've ruled over them for centuries, at that point they would call themselves Japanese, but most of all, why would an Indonesian Identity even exist? That name is actually very modern and only came about in the last 150 years, and after ruling over those islands for over 600 years, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for them too call themselves Indonesians. Also why would Japans American colonies also want independents?
First of all, they haven't fought in any major wars, so saying they don't want to die for an empire so far away wouldn't make sense. Second of all, the only reason the British empire disbanded and was because America forced it too, through embargos and other political means, otherwise Canada was fine being apart of the British empire for so long, third of all, even if they suddenly received independence, you know what's going to happen, America is gonna swoop in, commit genocide on the Japanese America and take over the west Coast, so they really are better off under the Japanese empire.
i believe that Russia would not be much of a world power, it would not be able to expand into central, south and east asia because the local tribes would stop them (and the tribes would expand into China after it's fall). i also believe that Japan and Britain would form an alliance against USA, in which Japan would take the resources of the great flatlands and perhaps use native americans to cross the mountains safely and fight USA while Britain would disarm USA and maybe even take it back. I also believe that Japan eventually would try to expand into India if it would manage to undermine Britain. In WW1, I believe they'd sieze the opportunity to take down rival nations and succesfully establish a world hegemony along with Germany. Then, I believe they'd just decolonize most of the world and establish economic superiority over the world, replacing modern day USA.
I think European bigotry might be worse. “The oriental horde” but by sea. Might legit scare the Europeans especially depending on how brutal the Japanese are. Good video but I think you high ball Japanese disunity. They do have a lot more numbers than the British did. Plus a very homogeneous country. Many areas would have a Japanese majority and likely stay loyal because empire would have welfare benefiting Japanese citizens. Given Nanking and comfort women this empire would likely be brutal especially to non Japanese even if democratic among Japanese themselves. Militarism would be high.
That’s precisely why Japan was never gonna become a super power had they helped out China against the western powers they could’ve taken more territory and even expanded in the interior or Russia possible even threatening Europe by land. But they ruined at all. Japan was far from embracing orientalism.
This Empire is a Shogunate, the actual Empire of Japan that did Nanking was brutal for unique reasons in it's formation, none of which would be prevalent here.
@@vetabeta9890 the samurai were described as brutal by most foreigners too. Japanese were infamous to the chinese as pirates(think similar to Vikings in Europe). The first invasion of Korea by the Japanese in 1592 did almost win but they were brutal to the locals. The benefits of empire would favor the Japanese the most. Especially if Shintoism is still the most dominant faith. They would be more like Romans and less like the UK. If they were brutal in 1939 imagine how brutal they could be in 1592. The difference is technology and scale.
@@vetabeta9890 the bushido code “the only solution for bad and violent people are good people that are more skilled in violence”. Samurai logic.
@@DillionMatt the Wakoku pirates weren’t specifically Japanese, they were Korean, Chinese and SEA as well. They weren’t unusually brutal in Korea, anytime an army with arquebuses that had 150 years of martial experience vs a country who had been at peace for centuries it’s gonna look overwhelmingly brutal.
We would have been aliens by now for sure if japan was a superpower like Soviet union or usa .mars would have been so close by now i mean reaching there.cause japan is all about technology, disciplines, respect,calm , practicality
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Anime has rotted your brain my friend. Japan treated its colonies brutally heck it even treated its natives on Japan like animals.
With a weakened China, France would expand their indochina influence into southern China and be somewhat of a buffer between Japan and Britain. You don't describe the relationship with the Dutch and how an opened Japan would have reacted to the christian missionaries. Also you don't describe how Japanese colonisation works. Is it just control of tribes and nations with a small nippon elite? Or is there a dense colonisation in America for example? Why did many people move, and what part of japanese society leaves and colonize?
I don't really see the japanese colons in America rebelling. It's an easy parallel with the U.S. but there are several cultural and philosophical differences that would rather point to a gradual given independance from the home empire like Australia and Canada in OTL. I think with nationalism in Cina, it's far more likely that Mandchurian, Korean and Indonesians rebel to create their own states.
You make some very good points! I was thinking of America and Taiwan being colonised by a lot of japanese immigrants while Indonesia and Korea being only led by a japanese elite. As to who exactly leaves the mainland to colonise, I got to say I haven’t really thought about that.
I don’t think missionaries would have a big effect on Japanese society if they would be as strong as the european powers.
do part 2 please
I imagine in the golden sixties and seventies Japan would felt like a superpower. They were the second largest economic powerhouse.
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What do you use to edit your videos? This production quality is excellent for a channel of your size
@@LincolnsLedger365 thank you! I make my maps with GProjector and After effects and then I edit the final product with davinci resolve.
Japan was a superpower
If you do decide to do a part 2, you should focus on the American public, America would've never joined both world wars without a justification, and since pearl harbor doesn't even exist in this timeline, I'd imagine the American public would rebel against their government for forcing them to fight against the Japanese, especially since for over a 190 years they didn't exactly do anything to America, it was a peaceful coexistence. Don't underestimate American morale, without a tragedy like pearl harbor, it would be very hard to convince the American people to fight in a world war.
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