What if Japan Was Divided After WWII?

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  • Опубліковано 10 січ 2025

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  • @JoshSullivanHistory
    @JoshSullivanHistory  5 місяців тому +3

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  • @eliasstenman3710
    @eliasstenman3710 5 місяців тому +28

    “Why weren’t they divided like the rest of the axis?”
    Italy would like to have a word with you ;)

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 5 місяців тому +3

      Italy switched sides, so technically wasn't Axis in the end

    • @michaelragusa5138
      @michaelragusa5138 4 місяці тому +2

      @@eliasstenman3710 The Russians were not able to get to Italy, so Italy was not divided.

  • @hotchocolateconnoisseur
    @hotchocolateconnoisseur 5 місяців тому +10

    Algorithm deities told him to make more WWI and WWII content (the struggle is real)

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 5 місяців тому +13

    Thanks For this josh! Suggestion: What if Carlos II of spain was healthy and had heirs?

  • @changingpeopleslivesmoon2993
    @changingpeopleslivesmoon2993 5 місяців тому +19

    What if China was split after ww2 and what if Italy colonized America

    • @Inferno92
      @Inferno92 5 місяців тому +4

      I mean they were, it was just a civilwar

  • @Chr908
    @Chr908 5 місяців тому +31

    If Korea never split

    • @adamelghalmi9771
      @adamelghalmi9771 5 місяців тому +1

      not much changes, stronger communist sphere of influence, but somewhat poorer and less militarized than our north and south

    • @soulbreakerthelastmanalive
      @soulbreakerthelastmanalive 5 місяців тому

      It would have disintegrated in the 90's. With no American owned south. Korea wouldn't have the constant pressure to rally around. The USSR would collapse and so would North Korea soon after. China would also have a far rougher time due to no cheap steel to take from Korea. This would leave China even poorer than it was. And due to Communist regimes, America might not open up to China.

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому

      Second communist power in east asia if Soviet conquered whole peninsula or second strongest capitalist power if US own entire peninsula

  • @curiousponderings
    @curiousponderings 5 місяців тому +5

    It be a very interesting alternative cold war setting!

  • @somehowstillhere8766
    @somehowstillhere8766 5 місяців тому +9

    "Voluntarily disarmed" with the ever present threat of continued bombing and invasion.

  • @diegoyanesholtz212
    @diegoyanesholtz212 5 місяців тому +6

    I don't think Tokyo was on the list, there were other cities, such as Kokura and Sapporo.

    • @InquisitorXarius
      @InquisitorXarius 5 місяців тому

      Kyoto should have taken Kokura and Nagasaki’s place.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 5 місяців тому +6

    Howdy josh! Love your content ❤❤❤❤

  • @SPAnComCat
    @SPAnComCat 5 місяців тому +4

    What if Russia was Fascist instead of Communist after the Civil War.

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 5 місяців тому +2

    As for the capitals for each of these two, I think it would be something like this:
    South Japan would most likely keep Tokyo as it's capital, as it was the capital before the war. Or they could move it to the ancient capital of Kyoto, to have the Government be as far as possible from the Northern Communist government.
    Meanwhile North Japan would have either Aomori, the northern most city of main island of Honshu. Or Sapporo, the largest city of Hokkaido where most of the Soviet forces would possibly be.

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому

      South Japan more likely Tokyo just like S Korea who capital in Seoul. Because Tokyo are center of Japan since Edo period.
      North Japan capital will be in sendai because is largers city in Northern Japan and located in Miyagi plain.

  • @PrussianGeneral1815
    @PrussianGeneral1815 5 місяців тому +5

    This is a wonderful history channel, may I say chaps.

  • @chujciwdupe5786
    @chujciwdupe5786 5 місяців тому +3

    What if Russia joined central powers?

  • @michaelragusa5138
    @michaelragusa5138 5 місяців тому +3

    I am happy that Japan surrendered on August 1945. The Japanese made the right decision because it prevented Japan from being divided. 1) A North Japan regime would be threatening the USA up to this day. 2) There may have been a Japanese War like the Korean War. 3) Many Japanese families would have been divided. 4) The division of Japan would have derailed an economic recovery of the country. 5) Even if Japan reunited at a later time, she would have had the problem reintegrating North Japan into Japan as Germany 🇩🇪 had with East Germany after 1990.
    As an aside, Russia 🇷🇺 should return the Northern Territories to Japan. Japan is a quasi-divided nation because of the Northern Territories dispute.

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому

      Well if stalin demand share of Japan at yalta.
      Soviet will still occupied them like Soviet invaded sakhalin and kuril after surrender and didn't owned whole northern korean peninsula before 27 August.

  • @DarthKieduss
    @DarthKieduss 5 місяців тому +5

    What if George Lucas never sold out to Disney?

  • @monsieurcharcutier4490
    @monsieurcharcutier4490 5 місяців тому +5

    Ever wonder why they picked Hiroshima, the most Catholic City in Japan?

    • @somehowstillhere8766
      @somehowstillhere8766 5 місяців тому +2

      @@monsieurcharcutier4490 ✡

    • @carinaslima
      @carinaslima 3 місяці тому +3

      Perhaps because they’re Americans.

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому +1

      Hiroshima aren't most catholic city in japan

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@carinaslima only American belief Hiroshima majority Christians

  • @randomguy6152
    @randomguy6152 5 місяців тому +4

    ainu might have been annexed by the USSR and many islands may have been annexed by USA, France, and UK

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 5 місяців тому

      I mean, they already got *some* of the Ainu lands in ourtimeline and never let them go, I suspect with Japan, they would probably at least keep Hokkaido and make the rest a puppet state

    • @randomguy6152
      @randomguy6152 5 місяців тому

      @@InfernosReaper Japan has been Russias rival almost as long as Prussia, I very much can see Russia taking Ainu entirely, it gives them a lot of advantages against Japan

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому

      Well Soviet will let North Japan kept Hokkaido because Japanese in Hokkaido are to numerous

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 4 місяці тому

    2:06 not true. The bomb had nothing to do with japans excepting the peace proposal

  • @ElChannelo
    @ElChannelo 5 місяців тому +1

    The soviet invasion of hokkaido is virtually impossible, how will they invade the island? Swim to it? They did not have the landing capacity and naval coverage to launch such an operation not to mention the logistics, remnants of the ijn would be disrupting their invasion, also the Americans would be extremely against such a move, they would literally blockade the soviets attempt and even if the soviets managed to land they would send their own submarines to disrupt Soviet logistics even more

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому

      Yeah Soviet vladivostok troop are small af

  • @BudokaiMan-mr9tw
    @BudokaiMan-mr9tw 4 місяці тому

    The most cursed timeline.

  • @jonathanfabela739
    @jonathanfabela739 5 місяців тому +1

    There would also be no manga or anime cause they all lived in northern Japan

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому

      Most of mangaka and animator born kanto or other part of south japan.
      Anime and Manga still exist just some titles wouldn't exist like example kaguya sama and oshi no ko because Akasa born in sado island who part of niigata prefecture (Soviet more likely will try to landing on this town because more easier than landing on Aomori).

  • @ivandinsmore6217
    @ivandinsmore6217 5 місяців тому

    Another great video, Jash. Thank you.❤

  • @mattthesilent777RED
    @mattthesilent777RED 5 місяців тому +1

    What if What if the Jacobites defeated the Hanoverians? was a thing? If it was, I'd be pretty happy Josh

  • @benanaboi9136
    @benanaboi9136 4 місяці тому

    What if the Qing dynasty survived

  • @jefferyhanderson7849
    @jefferyhanderson7849 5 місяців тому

    What if the Atomic Bomb was dropped on Tokyo? (At the time, people thought thr Atomic Bomb was just a big bomb. They did not know the lasting effect of it.)

  • @InfernosReaper
    @InfernosReaper 5 місяців тому +1

    It technically was divided. It's just that Japan never got back what Russia took.

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому +1

      Russia only took sakhalin and kuril

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 3 місяці тому

      @@mimorisenpai8540 That is still a part of it. Russia actually made a net gain on Japan compared to when it lost to Japan the last time

  • @Liborator88
    @Liborator88 5 місяців тому +1

    What if the union let the south seceed

  • @TheHatersarebad
    @TheHatersarebad 5 місяців тому

    What if the Hundred Years War never happened?

  • @NibanoTransmontano
    @NibanoTransmontano 5 місяців тому

    Bro what if Japan was colonized by Portugal ? I know it's a cursed scenario but just imagine

  • @coquimarinero7246
    @coquimarinero7246 5 місяців тому

    Are we just gonna ignore the fact that there was a British (functionally Australian) occupation zone?

  • @이동연-c6d
    @이동연-c6d 5 місяців тому +5

    As a Korean, this is the scenario that I really like about Japan after WW2. XD

  • @ivandinsmore6217
    @ivandinsmore6217 5 місяців тому +1

    God damn America. 😢😢😢

  • @morsecode980
    @morsecode980 5 місяців тому

    What if Joseph Smith wasn’t “unalived” and continued his 1844 presidential campaign? What if he won?

  • @Governor-n1x
    @Governor-n1x 5 місяців тому

    I suspect that the northern Japanese would not have attacked the south because they would have understood that the Koreans and Chinese would absolutely not want to help them after the ww2. The Chinese could have helped the Koreans, but the Chinese certainly wouldn't have helped the Japanese. And even if it was only if Mao saw some necessity in it like if he would be scared that the capitalist united Japan will in some day attack korea and Japan again. but I suspect that the Chinese would have simply conquered Taiwan instead because the reason they didn't attack it in 1950 was because they had to go help the North Koreans and the US as punishment sent a navy to protect Taiwan so an invasion later became virtually impossible.

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому

      Well PRC and DPRK will help them because JCP have closer ties with CCP and WPK, even before ww2 JCP are against war and sympathetic with Chinese and Korean but unlikely they will try to invaded south Japan and just play safe like east Germany.

  • @vitojuice
    @vitojuice 5 місяців тому

    It's amazing to view some who's related to a person who was "Adam Sullivan" charged with rape in Kerman, California in 1998, and now relatives are creating content about my family's history.
    Did you know that Robert Salazar owned a small Rancheria on Trinity Street that later on helped crossbreed the right blend of gallus gallus domesticus ?
    The more you dig, the darker it gets. Shady Sullivan, my grandfather, used to call your family!
    Sadly, you left those parts of the Salazar family out, I wonder why!
    🐥 *dirty deeds done dirt cheap!
    Also, to be honest you did do a good job, so, thank you for that.
    Grandpa Robert Salazar died from gangrene infection on his heel, we used epson Salt and alcohol to cleaning, I would say more but its extremely grim since it was 1995.

    • @vitojuice
      @vitojuice 5 місяців тому

      Shady Sullivan should stick to selling used cars and not try to fix history to hide their Shady deals.
      Like us Sun Maiden kids say, "Quod seminasti, metis."

  • @-helpergamming-4163
    @-helpergamming-4163 2 місяці тому +1

    what....??? WHAT??? this video doesnt explore anything! it literally just explains the setup, what is this supposed to be?
    please PLEASE improve in the content of your videos...

  • @waffleboywonder8868
    @waffleboywonder8868 5 місяців тому

    Hokkaido would essentially be a second North Korea doomed to be controlled by a hellish dictator at least until the Soviets fall. It would be rather unfair to Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, all threw themselves at Germany and helped them kill and enslave Jews Russians ETC so they honestly deserved to be occupied but Japan stayed out of war with the Soviets they even refused to attack American lend lease ships.

    • @mimorisenpai8540
      @mimorisenpai8540 3 місяці тому

      Japan and Soviet have minor cold war to each other

  • @InquisitorXarius
    @InquisitorXarius 5 місяців тому

    Nice Pfp you got there Josh, where’d you get it? The Black Sun Bargain Bin?

  • @dangerzone9437
    @dangerzone9437 5 місяців тому

    what does dog mean understandable?!?

  • @ProfessorYún
    @ProfessorYún 5 місяців тому +1

    Sup

  • @Felix_Carvalho
    @Felix_Carvalho 5 місяців тому +2

    No Views in 1 minute you fell off

  • @cvmpro1497
    @cvmpro1497 5 місяців тому +7

    Bros channel is stagnating after he beefed with Possible History 💀💀💀

    • @wolfwarrior9451
      @wolfwarrior9451 5 місяців тому +2

      His channel seems to be quite good, and he seems to be young, maybe people will give him a break 😅

    • @FodaseNaoLigo
      @FodaseNaoLigo 4 місяці тому

      No, it hasnt changed, it's just people getting mad about what he said

    • @castaliaball2antitgk433
      @castaliaball2antitgk433 4 місяці тому

      Well i subed due to the controversy

    • @carinaslima
      @carinaslima 3 місяці тому

      It’s better for him, actually. If there isn’t so much people to question his channel decisions he can do whatever he wants.

  • @MalayBosnianMapping
    @MalayBosnianMapping 5 місяців тому

    244 views after 33 mins bro fell off

    • @fowakw
      @fowakw 5 місяців тому +1

      He fell off when bro made that one video about possible history

    • @FodaseNaoLigo
      @FodaseNaoLigo 4 місяці тому

      ​@@fowakwNo, it just gave him more popularity

  • @ayyybob
    @ayyybob 5 місяців тому

    The Tokyo Wall be like: