Jayfly always messages me too.. Always saying how much i will like one. 😂👍.. I have a Kepler so im happy with that one for now. Waiting for something that is a big improvement on a Kepler. Dual hub Fabulous folding bike i may get. Or a folding Amp Rides bike. I need one transportable.. No bike rack needed type.
@@EBikeBuilder_ words cannot explain how much I dislike shills of any kind! Honestly, im glad I watched this video before making a purchase. Plus you made the video pretty enjoyable particularly at the comment section, exposing the shill.
Ordered mine May 4th, it arrived July 8th. It is FANTASTIC! it gets up and goes, for sure! I'm 5' 10", it's a bit on the large size but I can handle it, it's a bit more like handling a motorcycle than a bicycle. I haven't even had to recharge it yet! I've ridden every day for about an hour or so in my very hilly area and it's still at around 55%. I went for the orange, and its beautiful! Like a pearly burnt orange. The box had a few dings on the corners, but its packaged VERY well, and didn't affect the bike at all. It arrived in perfect condition, was very easy to assemble and get going. My gf called me when the UPS man was pulling up the drive, i hurried home to get the batteries on charge, returned to work, and by the time i got home the batteries were fully charged. i assembled it and it's been a lot of fun since! So far so good, met or exceeds my expectations!
@@EBikeBuilder_ I got the titian, its like a burnt orange with pearl metallic, hard to explain but its beautiful! And lots of fun, ive been riding all over town for days now, hours at a time. Unlike my scooter, range anxiety is at a zero lol. i havent had enough time nor places to go to run it all down.
Just bought a bike from wired.a took a while to arrive i was getting concerned but they came through around 30 days for delivery.however i did have a problem with the bike on around 300 miles it just shut down.i called wired talked to dan during the conversation we were trying to figure out the problem he said it was a connection problem. Knowing a little about mechanics that was not the problem so Steve called me and sent me a new battery solved the problem. Have since rode the bike 200 more miles and still working great . I’m a 65yr old that has a heart problem and need to exercise on a daily basis . I thank Steve and dan for coming up with a product that is needed for various reasons. I highly recommend this product.sincerely greg .
Hey Greg thanks for sharing your experience, in your case it sounds like WIRED was very reasonable! Any time a company sends you a whole new battery, that is good 👍 many are very reluctant to offer that degree of help. As an example i have had Aventon replace my battery like that.
I have been doing a deep dive into Wired Freedom and believe as much of the issues have surfaced it is a good bike for the price. However, I am looking at ECells version with even better spec’s, wheels, frame and controller (with heat dissipating epoxy) with no shipping or Tax and a free front basket, (limited offer)
the wired freedom is a good bike, yeah if it gets delivered and it works then it should be great. I dont like pre ordering bikes months away, but I see the freedom is "in stock" apparently on the website. I'm going to reserve my judgement on the E-Cells till that bike comes out. It looks like a good deal on paper. but at the moment its a bike that does not exist yet. Looks cool. On paper it seems as good as the Freedom and a lower price, but we'll see. Some times manufacturers swap out components etc
@@EBikeBuilder_the owner has posted videos of their very first production model just the other day. They also offer free shipping with the 30 day return window so that gives me extra confidence.
I waited two full months before I was told that apparently at least some of the November bikes never made it to Chicago. They have no eta or explanation. I cancelled my order and went with a company that has better customer service and a bike with a 60ah battery.
Hey thanks for bringing that to my attention, dang sorry to hear that. I wonder what happened with the bikes! Did they get shorted on the shipment?? It must have been a fair amount of missing units. That sucks, even if its not directly WIRED's fault, they should reimburse you in some way, thats ridiculous. That's a long time to wait, and a large amount of money to put on a credit card, only to have to refund it 2 months later because of that. I'm always wary of any type of pre order thats months out. especially when its bikes coming in a container from china. In any case mate, that's a bummer- I'm sorry to hear that. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. You did the right thing, I would have done a refund and ordered a different bike too!
I’m in the same position… I elected to wait but concerned that usually cards are charged when shipped. It sounds like your refund was made promptly? Is that correct?
I have the old wired freedom and cruise the bikes are pretty good and for the money I couldn't find anything close to it but the suspension on the freedom doesn't really exist on mine because the tire would hit the speed controller (don't expect customer support) but I'm 210lbs can hit 38 mph and go about 20 miles hard throttle no pedal. I'd still recommended it even with the shipping delays I had, the unusable suspension, and no customer support so this version should be better just know you are paying for the parts and not much else.
yeah thats kind of how it looks to me, if the bike shows up at your place in one piece, and its working OK, then its probably a great bike. But wired customer support has been going down the drain.I think they fixed the tire hitting the controller box with the 2024 freedom but thats kind of an oversight in the previous version Lol.
My new 2024 Wired freedom bike finely arrived last Saturday. I was very pleased that it did not get mangled during shipping all the way out to California. I quickly got the bike assembled, and noticed the front tire was not in alignment with the rest of the bike. After breaking out my measuring calipers I quickly realized that one fork was more than an 1/8 longer than the other, causing the misalignment.After talking with Steve the owner and sending a few photos, he immediately shipped me a new set of RST forks. I was very impressed at how knowledgeable he was about every aspect of this bike. It was a Very informative conversation. I could not be more pleased with my customer service experience. This New 2024 Freedom bike is EVERYTHING ALL the reviews said it was ! I could not be more pleased with my purchasing decision ! I tell all my friends that this bike is( Large And In Charge!) People ask me about it every where I go. I get A LOT of complements on the Beautiful Blue color and how Macho this thing looks ! It was worth the wait !
@@Doc.Holiday My bike was supposed to be an early nov delivery. Because of the Kenda tire supply issue I finally received my bike Nov 25th with the Chou Yang's instead. I heard rumor that one of the shipping containers fell into the ocean during a storm, and thats what happened to the late Nov shipment. Not exactly 100% sure if this is true? But that might explain the situation. I know the waiting will drive you crazy. Trust me, IT WILL BE WORTH IT. ! The 2024 Freedom TOTALLY ROCKS ! You will love it!
@user-hy1dy2tp8z Actually, there is a difference between defective and damaged . Clearly, this fork was damaged during shipping from UPS dropping the box on its end . Wired was quick to send me a new fork, and it only took a couple minutes to change. Fortunately, it’s not rocket science .
I bought the bike, I loved it. I was so happy with it, but one day last week it just stopped working. I called Dan and he said they would were escalate to their technician but when I followed up they said they're still diagnosing it. All I thought was how can you diagnose something without seeing the bike. Now I am waiting but they didn't give me a time frame so i have to keep inquiring on status, hoping they make it right.
hey Kmel thank you for sharing your experience, I am curious how exactly did it stop working? what was happening before it stopped working? Were you riding the bike and it lost power? Or was everything working, then you were charging the battery, and after that nothing is working? etc. i may be able to help. Interesting that Wired is hiring/outsourcing, I have never heard they have a technician. It sounds like they weren't very helpful yet, hopefully they follow up, thjat seems very inconvenient. I bet they are busy. so i imagine you will have to keep asking them.
@@EBikeBuilder_ I was riding my bike in a group everything was working fine. I had been riding the bike all month no problems. Someone stopped abruptly so I pulled on the brakes to stop. I didn't crash or hit anything. When I tried to continue I noticed the display was off. The bike wouldn't turn on.
Update: After speaking with Dan and then Steven, it was the display that was faulty. I received the new display today and it turned right on. Riding great again.
Not sure what exactly you were trying to accomplish here, nit picking the website for errors and expressing skepticism about various issues. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes. The videos from people who have actually purchased and ridden the bikes are unanimously favorable. I think those videos carry a lot more weight than something like this.
Agreed. I took August deliver of my Wired Freedom and love it. Zero problems. Guess I was more concerned with the bike than the LinkedIn page when I ordered one. Not sure how people get the idea it's a scam with tons of videos on UA-cam about this bike already out. Maybe they're trying to compensate for their buyer's remorse from spending more for a different brand bike with less motor, less battery, less controller power, less speed, and more weight? Maybe? 😁
@@ricke95126 yeah , one day it stopped working while riding it. Tried troubleshooting with them, but they don't know what's wrong. Just waiting until they get back to me with no time frame given.
Not trying to accomplish anything tbh, just took a look at the bike and giving my opinion. If i wanted a free bike, i would be kissing ass like everyone else. I like the bike itself, but I’m not a big fan of the company. Not everything is a binary good or bad. I had plenty of positive things to say that people seem to miss or forget about when they come in the comments
9:33 who could say for sure? They did and that's why they changed it😂 you just sound like a nit picking hater who will talk shit then a second later saying you're not talking any shit. This WHOLE almost hour of ranting was the purpose of what? Nobody learned anything except not to subscribe to your channel.....👍thanks
Ordered mine July 8, it arrived Aug 18, in good time for my birthday! Was really well packaged, no dents or scratches, everything was in order. Love it so far!
One of my big concerns is prepaying 2 or 3 months in advance for the bike. It's a pretty good business model for the company, not so much for the customer. There does seem to be rumblings about shipping and/or manufacture damage.
That’s a valid concern- i would not pre order a bike months in advance, when you could buy a different bike and be riding it. It seems the demand is there and they will continue to do it as long as people are lining up for pre orders. Shipping damage is an issue with any bike, to be honest, unless the manufacturer is really going the extra mile with the packaging.
Had a radrover that was lost in a traffic accident so I ordered one of these. Was interested in the speed, mine was just delivered on friday....and much to my surprise I have yet to find any shipping damage. All 3 of our rads had some sort of damage. Also I paid the extra for shipping protection as I had heard that was your only chance of reconciliation if there was major damage.
@@sethgaddie5980- Well it's been a month so what do you think? What's your range on a charge. I hope you unlocked it and dialed it in by reprogramming it.
Your commentary about the need to clean up the Wired website is legit. Some of your comments made no sense to me. The whole Christmaseve bent rack was a waste of time.
Christmaseve never said anything about a rack 😂 Where do you suppose jfly got that idea? Regardless This is just one example of many JFLY shill comments. Guy is getting called out
these bikes ship through canada for some reason. they often times get held up at the customs station. mine was about 2 weeks later than they said. just a heads up.
@@EBikeBuilder_ I picked my bike up yesterday. I seems pretty much the same as illustrated on other review channels other than mine came with Chao Yang tire (apparently there was a sourcing issue with the Kendas)and was missing a 6mm bolt for the from fender and light. I also had a disconnected throttle cable. Wired chat was able to tell where to look for the connector, it was working within minutes. That said, I couldn't be happier.
Sooooo this is a nit pick on basically just the website? It's a Small biz, as a former small biz myself (sold out to corporate) I feel this hard.... As far as the range advertised, it's the same as almost every other site. It's best case scenario, Just like mpgs on federally regulated websites...
I like the bike itself but the company not so much. tbh the primary motivating factor is how wired has been spamming my comments for months. Getting really annoying. Not like some random dudes are spamming on their behalf for fun and entertainment; they pay for the spam bots.
I too am a former business owner, and yes I too exist, and yes I too believe competition is best for the consumer. Too much going overboard here. My guess is you take any ebike company and early on its a mad scramble. I wish more people understood this.
I know where the company is and you can pick it up locally to save on shipping. It's a smaller company starting out but at least they're in the US. They're just like any other e-bike company sourcing the same parts from China and just assembling them together. You can't beat the price for the performance and even if it's a dud, you still spent on the lower end of the price spectrum for it.
That’s True, I’m just giving an opinion based on the information available. The bike is in some select reviewers hands already. Citizen cycle being one of them. I will certainly be talking about wired EBikes again I’m sure
I agree with you about having concerns. I decided to take the chance and ordered one of the 2024 models. Fingers crossed I don't have problems. I know nothing about ebikes so I'd be paying for the repairs at some shop.
it seems like a great value, it should be fine. I do like the bike. Some local bike stores are wary of working on ebikes, it depends on the particular shop. If you need normal bike work done like brakes or spoke tension etc, its the same as a normal bike and you could bring it in without the battery- if it made them feel more comfortable. But the local bike store might not be comfortable/able to help you swap out the motor core if something goes wrong. They have liability issues with certain things. But by taking out that battery it mitigates the risk of fire at least. And another thing is there are a bajillion people on craigslist and facebook market place that are basically mike mechanics in their spare time. and would jump on the opportunity to make an extra couple bucks. There are mobile bike mechanics that show up in a van and work on your bike. Lots of options
Thanks. To be honest I'm not too concerned other than it being in my possession by mid to late November. That's when I should be headed to NM for the winter. It would totally suck if I didn't have before then. But hopefully I could get the delivery changed to my address there instead of here in Pennsylvania. Lol. I have a background in motorcycles street and dirt for the last 45 plus years so working on it shouldn't be too scary. Just need to hunt up a repair manual for things. As for the social media you mentioned I'm not a user of any of them other than reddit and a couple motorcycle forums.
@@snakeoiler2921 I was worried before I got my August bike.... Can't stay off this thing.. definitely getting the new bike.. Have faith. This company is stand up top-notch. I've had a couple minor issues with my bike. And they are on it they get right back with.. Is either through email or phone call.. That's customer service I've ever had in my life through any product I've ever owned, I'm 45.
Thanks mate, I appreciate the kind words. I'm just calling it how i see it. I don't have a bone to pick or anything, I like the Wired bikes and what they are doing
You gotta take another look at the Wired bike offering. The price of the bike hasn't changed but most of the specs have improved, even though they were already all pretty high for that price of $2000. Their site now states: 3200W Peak Output (from 2200W), 153 NM of Torque (from 138nm), 45 Amp controller (from 40), dual battery now (20Ah + 15Ah) for 2100 total Wh (was a single 1200Wh). All this and the price is still $2000 - but now pre-order ship dates are July 2024. All pretty unbelievable even without considering the sketchiness of the owners. I'm curious if you've heard any more about them or about any real owners actual experiences.
Ik you trying to help the ebike community but everyone that had one seems to love it and it looks like a amazing deal for only 2k so imma have to still buy one😂
Like i said its a good value, if the bike ships on time and shows up working, i would be happy with it. Not trying to stop anyone from buying it. I would use the freedom frame instead of my bike frame if i had it available. I like how it has rear suspension. My problem isn’t so much with the bike, more with the company and how they have been spamming my comments section al year 😂🤣
Everything is under warranty so not sure why people would be returning a new bike.. But i can see if its totally trashed in shipping and they wont deal with it properly.. I would get some kind of insurance or something.
I met Steve and took the bike for a test ride. I met him at the address on the website, which is at a law office or something. The bike I road was the old model. It road really nice, but I also just test wrote it in the neighborhood by their office and the roads are in good shape there, so I wasn't really putting it to the test. If you're in a shorter than 5 ft 6 you're going to have a hard time putting your feet on the ground. It's a big bike.
Nice, thanks for sharing your experience w/ Wired ebikes , that is very fair. I am surprised they didn't have the new model available for a test ride? Hmm. Also thanks for that bit about the roads being in good shape. That's what I thought about the standover of the bike! at the time they had claimed it would fit a 5'4 rider, but that seems like a stretch! Did you place an order for the bike? or still considering it?
@EBikeBuilder_ I bought two of them, The Cruise for my wife and the freedom for myself. Steve even gave me a discount code that knocked $50 off each bike.
55mph u need like a QS205 or QS273 direct drive hub , maybe even just some generic 3000W hub could do it, with a fardriver controller , and high voltage high discharge battery. BUT Prebuilt ebikes are barely 60V at this point, you are looking for 72V and beyond with a battery and controller that can do hundreds of amps. After 30mph it takes something like double power just to go every 10mph faster, due to wind resistance. In terms of pedaling and actually having resistance on the pedals, it depends on your wheel size but at some point its just impossible to pedal along regardless of your chairing and gearing. And for 2500$ what you want probably isn’t possible unless you literally build the battery youself and strap a crazy motor and battery on a really cheap or free bike. It might be possible. Probably more like 3 grand . If you are going fast need good brakes and everything just gets heavier and more expensive. That’s more motorcycle type components, not bicycle stuff. If you’re only buying prebuilt, then id get a goat powered Ebike, yeah, or something similar With a high power direct drive motor. Probably has the best upgrade potential. the motor goat on 60V goes pretty fast, on 72V itd probably do 50+ , that’s really the only prebuilt with a decent direct drive hub that I’ve seen. But idk depending on how you ride, a geared hub could have more torque. I wouldn’t be taking s motor goat on any trails or be seriously pedaling a motor goat, i don’t think its made for pedaling really.
This company should be under investigation,I paid and ordered a Freedom in Mid September and now they are saying not until mid January due to a lost container.The company said they sent several emails out to paid customers about another extended delay but I never received but one about a delay in mid November shipment.I don't believe them.Anyone else got this story from them?
I had someone recently else tell me they paid for a bike for the november shipment, WIRED claimed "not all of the bikes made to Chicago", so apparently they made an order for bikes and the shipment got shorted and didn't get as many as they thought? How does a shipping container go missing lmfao. Like imagine how many boxed ebikes you can fit in a shipping container. I might do a video about it. thats crazy.
Nobody's going to want to return this bike. You're not going to be spended $700 to return it. You're going to keep it, trust me. I own one I'm getting ready to order a second 1... Absolutely amazing bike. Is amazing company. Amazing customer service.
thanks for sharing your exprience with Wired. its a nice bike and it doesn't make any sense to return it, thats kind of how ebike return policies are structured, just something to be aware of. Did you have to contact their customer support? I am curious about your experience with that, some other people have said they were not getting helped as fast as they hoped.
@@EBikeBuilder_ I have gotten a response immediately in the middle of the night before... It has also taken me a couple days to get a response.... Mostly through email... I did get a phone call from Dan to talk over some things. BEST customer service I've ever had in my life with any product ever.
Wow why did you use convos against wired. Seems kinda like a smear campaign. Do you like the bike or not? Both Steve and Dan have helped me. Ive called and females pick up and transfer calls. Ive seen photos of warehouses. Youre picking at the company itself instead of buying the bike and doing an actual review. This video isnt the way and you can do so much better.
Great video with various valid points. I was wondering what is the use of the “Navidium Shipping Protection” offered on their site if someone gets a damaged bike then! Wouldn’t customers who purchased the insurance get compensated on damaged bikes? If not, why to pay for it then?!
@@EBikeBuilder_ $75 it offers protection from damage, loss & theft. It shows as an option in their shopping cart before checkout, but I was wondering if this would really work in case of damaged parts? I’m not sure what would be the compensation mechanism?
I own the later 2023 model with the not so good rear suspension . I'm at 240lbs. and so I've got to extend the shock so far out as to not rub the controller box that I get no bounce at all . For the most part I am happy with the bike , my only other con is that when I first recieved it the bike's top speed was 36mph but after a few months it only gets up to about 33 or 34 mph .When I first got it the rear wheel rubbed the controller box so they shipped me a larger shock(& replacement box). Then my rear rack broke with only 20lbs on it and so they shipped me out another stronger one which I had purchased a rear rack from Amazon that was rated to carry 100lbs. and so I just used those support braces on the new rack so I could carry a spare battery . Since all that It's worked great all except for the loss of 3 - 4 mph , I do have to mention that it really accelerates up 20mph quickly which I appreciate for dodging traffic when I have to use the streets .
Hey thanks 🙏 for the comment and your input on the wired freedom. It seems like an OK bike. I wonder why your top speed went down, did you add s bunch of accessories, or change the tires or something? Even the tire pressure being lower could affect the top speed. The battery shouldn’t degrade significantly after a few months unless it gets frozen or severely abused. Thanks again for your comment mate i always enjoy hearing about these bikes!!
@@EBikeBuilder_ That's what I found as well, almost nothing. My guess is that they manufacture and sell only in bulk order for other companies. All and all. I think Wired freedom is an amazing deal. Nobody sells 60v bikes fat bike full suspension with geared hub motor. Quite unique. I think I'll stick with BBSHD, 24s battery and custom controller. Is more reliable and plenty of parts available. Cheers
That's the reason you very rarely see full suspension fat tire mountain bikes, in order to handle the abuse and the weight of a fat tire, it has to be super high-quality, probably like 2 Grand just for the suspension alone, even really high-end full suspension mountain bikes require constant maintenance, and replacing the bushings and bearings every so many years. Although I think with a little bit of modifying and creativity you may be able to tighten up the rear end on this bike. Couple trips to the hardware store, and some higher quality bearings from Amazon.
check and tighten shock bolts before every ride. takes like 20 seconds. blue locktite if they lossen up often. problem solved. the bike came with 2 shocks and two sets of bushings. I don't think that's the case with the new version though. not sure. I just missed out on the new one by 1 month.
Yeah the Chinese put them in the box and send them over. Most ebike stuff is Chinese. The only company i know if that actually assembles bikes in the us is Electric bike company and they’re slow and expensive unfortunately
Confirmed Samsung 50E 5000mah 21700 cells, at least in my August delivered Wired cruiser. So far my battery has not disappointed, very good performance and range. I’ve spoken with Steve on the phone going through some set up on my bike when I had an issue with my headset needing a bit of extra torquing. I mean he could have been Dave saying his name was Steve the owner but he knew what he was talking about and we got it sorted so I was content with the support.
thanks for confirming the 50E cells. in a 16S config thats 64 cells, each cell is about 69g, all the cells are 10 pounds, battery weight checks out. My only concern with those cells is in that 4p configuration at 9.8A max discharge on each cell, doing 40amps would be maxing the cells out. So if you are giving this bike full power its probably going to have the voltage drop quite a bit. I would have liked to see the battery cells not being used to 100% discharge capacity, they would last longer. But they are samsung so it's probably still decent
also thanks for sharing your experience with Wired ebikes, I think they are reasonable and perhaps just have a vocal minority of people who are unhappy
@@EBikeBuilder_ I agree, when I was running numbers after finding out what the cells were I too was a little concerned that the controller/motor are capable of pulling the maximum these cells are rated for. I haven’t noticed anything concerning battery performance wise and it barely gets warm after running pretty hard but it’s all still so new. Hopefully this battery ages well.
@@EBikeBuilder_ Just go on home depot or any huge retailer, there's a reason why the squeaky wheel gets the worm. If it were widgets, you'd see tons of negative reviews, but out of millions sold.
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I’m trying to figure out what’s your point in this video I hate when people don’t have something but give advice to people you never rode the bike but you giving a assessment of the bike I use to be a subscribe of yours and you hating on a company oh I see you asked for a bike to do a review and they said no, I get now
the point was to look at the bike and give my opinion. I never asked anyone for a bike. They wouldn't even have one to give me; they are always out of stock. 🤣😂 I don't want moron subscribers anyways, CYA! 👋👋
in my g62 when i opened it up, there was aluminum dust all over, caked in with the grease. And that's from nylon gears on aluminum, over 1 year of use. I wonder about the steel planetary gears? People seem to think the nylon gears are not strong, but I have done 4kw with my g62 and i don't see any damage to any nylon teeth. My planetary gears seem like the bearings will go bad before the nylon teeth do.
Hi I'm Mike I live in Chicago and Dan is real I met him last month when I went to pick up my bike from there warehouse it is a couple miles north of there office and its on the west side of ORD airport the bike is ok I got it up to 36 mph
Hey Mike thank you for sharing your experience with the wired ebike! Everyone seems to talk to Dan lol, I’m still wondering about Steve!! Thank you for that information, it seems to corroborate what others have said.
I have one. mine is in between models. and I love it! The sight does in Our Stores brag about lg batteries but are now samsung. IDK but personally been a awesome bike, and batteries do have an internal fuse so if batteries quits working open it up. i bought another then found that so I have an extra but that was a $800 mistake.
@@joeschmuckatelli3198 Its still a good chunk of money over a what ever a 10amp fuse is. And so far I havent needed a extra $800 battery with me. So I respectively disagree that it was not a $800 mistake. I do also admit I did do something stupid to blow the fuse. So that was my mistake. But even so, Now lugging this extra mass around I havent needed it and lugging it around is also been another mistake. lol
@@rabbithomesteading3797 Why do you L o l... Laugh out loud at your own statement? It seems that your statement has no credibility that you yourself laugh at it....,lol.. What kind of d******** laughs at their own statement?
hey sorry Yt Swallowed this one on me , I am looking at this bike, it looks kind of cool I like how its got all the suspension. and 26" fat tires and the two batteries in the frame. I like how it has the Mag wheels where they dont have spokes. 1200W peak is kind of weak, the controller might be a low amp controller. It says its a 1000W motor, so if its truly a 1000w motor, it should have a L1019 connector, and be able to be upgraded to a better controller. But it says 70NM torque, so it kind of makes me feel like it might be a 750W motor and they are just saying 1000W? The BMS on the battery might be limited to a certain amperage. So i think the limiting factor on this X26 is the controller amps, it could use a better controller. And im not sure how many amps the batteries can discharge. I like the bike itself. It could be really cool with better battery cells in it. ANd a good controller. I would only try to upgrade the controller if its truly a 1000w nominal controller. Figure out what kindof motor cable connector they use for it. And that gives you an idea of how thick the phase wires are and how much current it can handle. I like the suspension and design. I have heard ENGWE is not great with customer support though.
Nylon Gear's use bugger all lubrication compared too metal one's plus quieter Metal is definitely stronger Hence the Hybrid I suppose best of both worlds
I’ve heard someone say the hybrid are quieter than nylon sometimes. I’m surprised by how strong the aftermarket 5$ set of nylon gears are. Maybe for the wired they needed hybrids. They say its 130nm or something. Probably too much for nylon. I’ve ran 90 phase amps ( about 100nm to 110nm) on my g62 reliably for a few years with nylon.
That’s possible, but I’ve never broke a nylon gear with any of my bafang motors, mid drive or hubs. It seems like marketing fluff solving a problem that isn’t really a problem. It would probably be much easier to source bafang gears than the hengtai hybrid ones
My rack was damaged and so were my fenders. I got rid of the fenders. they were a bent up mess. Look its an ok bike. They are fun. its 2 grand which is way cheaper than even mid level brand bikes from legacy builder. Keep the expectations there. The cruiser is a little dangerous imo. If I got a wired id stick to the freedom. I ride super bikes around a track all the time so danger subjective.. The frame has a modulation issue in its design or my frame has issues. Just hop off the bike and grab a handle and move it back and forth and you'll feel the frame warping. I initially thought the speed wobbles I get were from a loose headset but that was just exaggerating the problem. Even with it tightened perfectly, I still get speed wobbles. Then I thought maybe its just a symptom of all step thru's but I got another step though and it does not suffer from the same issue. You have to have your ass in the seat to stabilize the frame and a lot of people stand up on these bikes. . Not an issue at 15 mph .. but when youre hitting 38 mph it can be and a lot of p[epple buy this bike and there first thing they to is find a hill and pin it. . You feel it start to wobble and it gets progressively worse if you dont slow. So if you have the cruiser just be careful pushing it. Make sure everything is torq'd to a decent spec every few weeks. I have no real issues with wired but they aren't the super supportive company that everyone on here claims. but how can they be? theres no way they are making margins on these bikes at this time. Ill give them a pass at 2K but I dont expect the price san going to stay there.
Thanks 🙏 @HopFilms that is a very fair account of your experience with wired e-bikes. That’s a good way to sum it up- keep expectations in check. Its a lot of ebike for 2k, something has to give somewhere. also VERY interesting to hear about the speed wobbles with the cruiser!! I have never heard about that. Very good warning ⚠️ for anyone with a cruiser! It would be interesting to see a video of the wobbles!!
@@azutori they are both really tall bikes. The only thing it should give you pause on is if you’re planning on pushing it to its tops speeds often. IF that’s the case get the freedom. If you’re just cruising. Then it’s not a huge issue. When I notice it the most is when I go over a curb like transitioning from Road to side walk. It gets a little wobble and feels unstable. I’m also tall and have my seat at the highest position. I wonder if the wobble would be there if the post was seated lower.
@@HopFilms Thanks for the heads up. I think i’ll stick with the Cruiser since i’m 5’0 (yeah i’m really short), so my seat would be at the lowest. I’ll be pushing it here and there but not often
Great vid. You touch on a lot of the pet peeves I share with regards to ebikes. Specifically range claims and rider height info. They should ALWAYS rate rider height by leg inseam measurements from seat to ground. I've ridden 5 different brands of ebike claiming that the were suitable for riders 5'5" and above. Only one of them was accurate. As for range, they always choose the most favorable conditions i.e. light rider weight, very low speed and pedal assist, on level or downhill terrain, not against wind etc. BTW, great investigating on the "about us" of ebike sites! 👍
EBikeBuilder could you do a Ride1Up investigation......thinking about getting their Cafe Cruiser but skeptical about their so called 750 watt (sustained ) motor
Great video, I was looking at the wired, I think it just fell off my list after this. Do have any recommendations for a fat tire e-bike. It will be my 1st one. I like the Yoto, and I’m not finding a lot of reviews/ research out there. Thanks
Jfly is wrong, customer service sucks ass. I ride 10 miles round trip 5 days a week and 6 months old and the battery is toast, they want 800 for a new one, im super pissed
Also V1 or what ever original version was call... with all the tires rubbing into the controller housing. Their fix was...Ok we will ship you the china made bike distributed here in the usa, bad! But we will send you the parts to fix it. Who does that...????
Hey thanks 🙏 for bringing that up. I thought about that with the v1; the controller was crazy close to the wheel and it looked like depending on the suspension it would rub. That’s crazy if it was rubbing with the stock setup and no changes to the suspension. They must not have tested the suspension with different adjustments and rider weight.
Btw i am curious about what they had you do for the fix? what parts could they send to fix a problem like that?? It seemed like a fundamental problem with the suspension and tire clearance.
@@EBikeBuilder_ The fix was a longer shock thrown in the box that the buyer had to replace. Lol. They did make the swingarm longer on my version and then totally different on the 24 model
The old Mozo Fork is not perfect, but way more trail capable than the new RST, Chow Yang is also underrated, since they started using on e bikes people got the impression that they generic tires, Diamondback used to put them on some really nice higher-end fat tire bikes back when I used to make nice fat bikes. Not as expensive as Maxxis but not cheap.
Chao Yangs are the most underrated tires, i love them. They have them on Amazon in 20x4 and 26x4 as “Mongoose Fat Tire Mountain Bike Accessory” and they are super cheap. I’ve got the 20x4 tires as cheap as 35$ and they would last several thousand miles. Better than any kenda I’ve tried
@@EBikeBuilder_ I just ordered the more expensive ones, I haven't received them yet, I will let you know, they were $140 for a pack of two, used to be $160. Panaracer also make some killer fat tires, but they hard to come by lately.
Totally agree with you on the range estimates would like them to state the weight of the rider and the speed they rode so we could estimate from the information
Its a 60 amp controller, so if you are doing 60 amps full power - the 20ah battery could drain in as little as 20 minutes. With ebikes you have to choose, do you want to go FAST? Or go FAR? On my 20ah battery i usually can go about 30 miles but i am 150 pounds
I did a google street view of the business mailing address and it looks like an open field or at best a one room office. Hard to tell. It is sketchy to give them $2,000 regardless of the specs.
@@timothywarehime5956 thanks for that information good to know. I wish i could see a picture of dan and steve standing in front of a warehouse of bikes, i would feel more confident lol
Our buddy Jfly just reared it's ugly head in another video by one of my buddies channel. OregonEbikerMark ....I just noticed today.. Another sales pitch.. I think the video was from 5 days ago about the Wired Freedom.
JFLY spams about Wired ebikes like its his full time job. He was on Russ is Right videos that I watched as well. I didn't mind his comments for a long time and I left them up. Some of them are insightful comments I didnt mind for a while. But he will easily get offended and start attacking your character over some trivial opinion Lol. He had a bunch of comments "held for review" that i never saw for a long time, then I was just like OK cya later Lol. idk what is going on with the guy but he's out of here I'm done listening to it 🤣😂
I like the bike. It was hilarious i stumbled across more smoke and mirrors, randomly as I am looking the bike over. Perfect example of what I am talking about. The bike seems good enough to speak for itself, I don't understand why they need bots and spam in the comments.
I'm really excited to see the science bear out regarding the steer reinforced gears. The only real way to know is keep track of owners over time and see how many miles these bikes get before motor failure vs typical e-bike.
metal gears seem like a marketing thing. Solving a problem that isn't a problem. I've used my bafang g62 thousands of miles over several years, the nylon teeth are still fine and there is no damge to them, despite that i was running the motor 2-3x the nominal power levels. The nylon gears are a problem that didn't need fixing. They are designed to be a point of failure, at a component that is easy to remove and replace. The steel gears I imagine would cause more wear on the rest of the metal gears inside the hub motor. Even in my bafang g62 there is a lot of aluminum dust from the nylon gears against metal. Imagine metal gears against metal
This is a typical Ebike bud😅 I swear, people who haven't bought one are either butthurt they haven't bought one and waiting for parts to fail for. Their own supposed merit 😂
anytime mate happy to help, glad you enjoyed, the long story short of it - is basically, i think the bike looks pretty good, great value. But I'm not a big fan of WIRED the company My spidey senses are tingling
@@UtubeSurfer7 Like I say, if I bought an ebike i would probably buy this one. It's a good value. But I don't know if I can buy one now, Steve will probably send me a lemon. 🤣😂
@@EBikeBuilder_ i had recently bought an euy k6 pro bike and it’s super fun, but wanted to go faster 😂 I bought a bigger controller for it but it’s a nightmare trying to install it on the euy bikes . So I wanted to buy this wired freedom bike, but like you said , we will end up getting lemons delivered 😂
I was the same way John but I decided to call the company and found out that the shipping price was $250. It is totally false advertising to say that the price of the bike is less than $2,000, no it isn't, it's 2250 with shipping. As if the shipping price doesn't matter, the angry person and support with an attitude told me that free shipping was just a gimmick. Read my comment on this post and you will see what transpired. I wouldn't touch this company with a ten-foot pole.
Can I buy the 2024 wired freedom model off of anybody for up to 1000$ more? I need this bike for commuting and a big trip I plan on taking across the country and back. Any other bike like this has been too expensive and I know I'm basically negating that, but I really like the bike. The supplier says they're out and can't do anything about it. I plan on preordering for January but my trip ends before January and am not rich enough to buy another bike and then receive my wired 2024 on January. Any tips or advice on where I can do this would be much appreciated.
@@CR2d2 I'm in Canada right now visiting family but need to come back to the states in about a week anyways. If you have the 2024 model I'll come right to you and buy it.
Scary that it's possible to get taken for close to a thousand dollars. I'm now wondering if any of these middleman suppliers offers insurance to cover the purchase at no cost to the buyers
Jayfly always messages me too.. Always saying how much i will like one. 😂👍.. I have a Kepler so im happy with that one for now. Waiting for something that is a big improvement on a Kepler. Dual hub Fabulous folding bike i may get. Or a folding Amp Rides bike. I need one transportable.. No bike rack needed type.
i'm so sick of JFLY spamming 🤣😂 I had to call it out
@@EBikeBuilder_ words cannot explain how much I dislike shills of any kind! Honestly, im glad I watched this video before making a purchase. Plus you made the video pretty enjoyable particularly at the comment section, exposing the shill.
I want to replace my folding bikes because they are too difficult to move in and out of cars. It will be easier to use a bike rack.
@@EBikeBuilder_ Is that the ecells guy?
I have one 2024 freedom, bms shot the battery and they want $800 for new one help
Ordered mine May 4th, it arrived July 8th. It is FANTASTIC! it gets up and goes, for sure!
I'm 5' 10", it's a bit on the large size but I can handle it, it's a bit more like handling a motorcycle than a bicycle. I haven't even had to recharge it yet! I've ridden every day for about an hour or so in my very hilly area and it's still at around 55%. I went for the orange, and its beautiful! Like a pearly burnt orange. The box had a few dings on the corners, but its packaged VERY well, and didn't affect the bike at all. It arrived in perfect condition, was very easy to assemble and get going. My gf called me when the UPS man was pulling up the drive, i hurried home to get the batteries on charge, returned to work, and by the time i got home the batteries were fully charged. i assembled it and it's been a lot of fun since! So far so good, met or exceeds my expectations!
they look Nice if you get the bike quickly without any issue, Excellent, they seem to be a great value. I like the colors
@@EBikeBuilder_ I got the titian, its like a burnt orange with pearl metallic, hard to explain but its beautiful! And lots of fun, ive been riding all over town for days now, hours at a time. Unlike my scooter, range anxiety is at a zero lol. i havent had enough time nor places to go to run it all down.
Just bought a bike from wired.a took a while to arrive i was getting concerned but they came through around 30 days for delivery.however i did have a problem with the bike on around 300 miles it just shut down.i called wired talked to dan during the conversation we were trying to figure out the problem he said it was a connection problem. Knowing a little about mechanics that was not the problem so Steve called me and sent me a new battery solved the problem. Have since rode the bike 200 more miles and still working great . I’m a 65yr old that has a heart problem and need to exercise on a daily basis . I thank Steve and dan for coming up with a product that is needed for various reasons. I highly recommend this product.sincerely greg
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Hey Greg thanks for sharing your experience, in your case it sounds like WIRED was very reasonable! Any time a company sends you a whole new battery, that is good 👍 many are very reluctant to offer that degree of help. As an example i have had Aventon replace my battery like that.
I have been doing a deep dive into Wired Freedom and believe as much of the issues have surfaced it is a good bike for the price. However, I am looking at ECells version with even better spec’s, wheels, frame and controller (with heat dissipating epoxy) with no shipping or Tax and a free front basket, (limited offer)
the wired freedom is a good bike, yeah if it gets delivered and it works then it should be great. I dont like pre ordering bikes months away, but I see the freedom is "in stock" apparently on the website. I'm going to reserve my judgement on the E-Cells till that bike comes out. It looks like a good deal on paper. but at the moment its a bike that does not exist yet. Looks cool. On paper it seems as good as the Freedom and a lower price, but we'll see. Some times manufacturers swap out components etc
@@EBikeBuilder_the owner has posted videos of their very first production model just the other day. They also offer free shipping with the 30 day return window so that gives me extra confidence.
I waited two full months before I was told that apparently at least some of the November bikes never made it to Chicago. They have no eta or explanation. I cancelled my order and went with a company that has better customer service and a bike with a 60ah battery.
Hey thanks for bringing that to my attention, dang sorry to hear that. I wonder what happened with the bikes! Did they get shorted on the shipment?? It must have been a fair amount of missing units. That sucks, even if its not directly WIRED's fault, they should reimburse you in some way, thats ridiculous. That's a long time to wait, and a large amount of money to put on a credit card, only to have to refund it 2 months later because of that. I'm always wary of any type of pre order thats months out. especially when its bikes coming in a container from china. In any case mate, that's a bummer- I'm sorry to hear that. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. You did the right thing, I would have done a refund and ordered a different bike too!
I’m in the same position… I elected to wait but concerned that usually cards are charged when shipped. It sounds like your refund was made promptly? Is that correct?
@@Doc.Holiday Its the only thing I can say about this company that was prompt.
I have the old wired freedom and cruise the bikes are pretty good and for the money I couldn't find anything close to it but the suspension on the freedom doesn't really exist on mine because the tire would hit the speed controller (don't expect customer support) but I'm 210lbs can hit 38 mph and go about 20 miles hard throttle no pedal. I'd still recommended it even with the shipping delays I had, the unusable suspension, and no customer support so this version should be better just know you are paying for the parts and not much else.
yeah thats kind of how it looks to me, if the bike shows up at your place in one piece, and its working OK, then its probably a great bike. But wired customer support has been going down the drain.I think they fixed the tire hitting the controller box with the 2024 freedom but thats kind of an oversight in the previous version Lol.
My new 2024 Wired freedom bike finely arrived last Saturday. I was very pleased that it did not get mangled during shipping all the way out to California. I quickly got the bike assembled, and noticed the front tire was not in alignment with the rest of the bike. After breaking out my measuring calipers I quickly realized that one fork was more than an 1/8 longer than the other, causing the misalignment.After talking with Steve the owner and sending a few photos, he immediately shipped me a new set of RST forks. I was very impressed at how knowledgeable he was about every aspect of this bike. It was a Very informative conversation. I could not be more pleased with my customer service experience. This New 2024 Freedom bike is EVERYTHING ALL the reviews said it was ! I could not be more pleased with my purchasing decision ! I tell all my friends that this bike is( Large And In Charge!) People ask me about it every where I go. I get A LOT of complements on the Beautiful Blue color and how Macho this thing looks ! It was worth the wait !
I was supposed to receive a Freedom a few weeks ago. (Also in CA) Now I’m told “sometime” in January.
@@Doc.Holiday My bike was supposed to be an early nov delivery. Because of the Kenda tire supply issue I finally received my bike Nov 25th with the Chou Yang's instead. I heard rumor that one of the shipping containers fell into the ocean during a storm, and thats what happened to the late Nov shipment. Not exactly 100% sure if this is true? But that might explain the situation. I know the waiting will drive you crazy. Trust me, IT WILL BE WORTH IT. ! The 2024 Freedom TOTALLY ROCKS ! You will love it!
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Actually, there is a difference between defective and damaged .
Clearly, this fork was damaged during shipping from UPS dropping the box on its end .
Wired was quick to send me a new fork, and it only took a couple minutes to change.
Fortunately, it’s not rocket science .
I bought the bike, I loved it. I was so happy with it, but one day last week it just stopped working. I called Dan and he said they would were escalate to their technician but when I followed up they said they're still diagnosing it. All I thought was how can you diagnose something without seeing the bike. Now I am waiting but they didn't give me a time frame so i have to keep inquiring on status, hoping they make it right.
hey Kmel thank you for sharing your experience, I am curious how exactly did it stop working? what was happening before it stopped working? Were you riding the bike and it lost power? Or was everything working, then you were charging the battery, and after that nothing is working? etc. i may be able to help. Interesting that Wired is hiring/outsourcing, I have never heard they have a technician. It sounds like they weren't very helpful yet, hopefully they follow up, thjat seems very inconvenient. I bet they are busy. so i imagine you will have to keep asking them.
@@EBikeBuilder_ I was riding my bike in a group everything was working fine. I had been riding the bike all month no problems. Someone stopped abruptly so I pulled on the brakes to stop. I didn't crash or hit anything. When I tried to continue I noticed the display was off. The bike wouldn't turn on.
This a freedom or cruiser. reseat the battery? @@kmel77083
@dixienormis3614 yes that's what Dan advised me.
Update: After speaking with Dan and then Steven, it was the display that was faulty. I received the new display today and it turned right on. Riding great again.
Not sure what exactly you were trying to accomplish here, nit picking the website for errors and expressing skepticism about various issues. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes. The videos from people who have actually purchased and ridden the bikes are unanimously favorable. I think those videos carry a lot more weight than something like this.
Agreed. I took August deliver of my Wired Freedom and love it. Zero problems. Guess I was more concerned with the bike than the LinkedIn page when I ordered one. Not sure how people get the idea it's a scam with tons of videos on UA-cam about this bike already out. Maybe they're trying to compensate for their buyer's remorse from spending more for a different brand bike with less motor, less battery, less controller power, less speed, and more weight? Maybe? 😁
Agree also- great bike, sold my Aventon Aventure and picked up a black Wired Freedom in August- big improvements in all categories
It's great when it's working, the problem is when it stops working that's the issue.
@@ricke95126 yeah , one day it stopped working while riding it. Tried troubleshooting with them, but they don't know what's wrong. Just waiting until they get back to me with no time frame given.
Not trying to accomplish anything tbh, just took a look at the bike and giving my opinion. If i wanted a free bike, i would be kissing ass like everyone else. I like the bike itself, but I’m not a big fan of the company. Not everything is a binary good or bad. I had plenty of positive things to say that people seem to miss or forget about when they come in the comments
9:33 who could say for sure? They did and that's why they changed it😂 you just sound like a nit picking hater who will talk shit then a second later saying you're not talking any shit. This WHOLE almost hour of ranting was the purpose of what? Nobody learned anything except not to subscribe to your channel.....👍thanks
Ordered mine July 8, it arrived Aug 18, in good time for my birthday! Was really well packaged, no dents or scratches, everything was in order. Love it so far!
Nice jfinite, thank you for sharing your experience mate! it looks like a really good value and lots of fun.
One of my big concerns is prepaying 2 or 3 months in advance for the bike. It's a pretty good business model for the company, not so much for the customer.
There does seem to be rumblings about shipping and/or manufacture damage.
That’s a valid concern- i would not pre order a bike months in advance, when you could buy a different bike and be riding it. It seems the demand is there and they will continue to do it as long as people are lining up for pre orders. Shipping damage is an issue with any bike, to be honest, unless the manufacturer is really going the extra mile with the packaging.
Had a radrover that was lost in a traffic accident so I ordered one of these. Was interested in the speed, mine was just delivered on friday....and much to my surprise I have yet to find any shipping damage. All 3 of our rads had some sort of damage. Also I paid the extra for shipping protection as I had heard that was your only chance of reconciliation if there was major damage.
@@sethgaddie5980- Well it's been a month so what do you think? What's your range on a charge. I hope you unlocked it and dialed it in by reprogramming it.
Your commentary about the need to clean up the Wired website is legit. Some of your comments made no sense to me. The whole Christmaseve bent rack was a waste of time.
Christmaseve never said anything about a rack 😂 Where do you suppose jfly got that idea? Regardless This is just one example of many JFLY shill comments. Guy is getting called out
Local pickup is available in Wood Dale IL. I should be picking one up in November. I will post back if this does not happen.
thanks Greg, let us know what happens
these bikes ship through canada for some reason. they often times get held up at the customs station. mine was about 2 weeks later than they said. just a heads up.
@@EBikeBuilder_ I picked my bike up yesterday. I seems pretty much the same as illustrated on other review channels other than mine came with Chao Yang tire (apparently there was a sourcing issue with the Kendas)and was missing a 6mm bolt for the from fender and light. I also had a disconnected throttle cable. Wired chat was able to tell where to look for the connector, it was working within minutes. That said, I couldn't be happier.
Sooooo this is a nit pick on basically just the website? It's a Small biz, as a former small biz myself (sold out to corporate) I feel this hard.... As far as the range advertised, it's the same as almost every other site. It's best case scenario, Just like mpgs on federally regulated websites...
I like the bike itself but the company not so much. tbh the primary motivating factor is how wired has been spamming my comments for months. Getting really annoying. Not like some random dudes are spamming on their behalf for fun and entertainment; they pay for the spam bots.
I too am a former business owner, and yes I too exist, and yes I too believe competition is best for the consumer.
Too much going overboard here. My guess is you take any ebike company and early on its a mad scramble.
I wish more people understood this.
I know where the company is and you can pick it up locally to save on shipping. It's a smaller company starting out but at least they're in the US. They're just like any other e-bike company sourcing the same parts from China and just assembling them together. You can't beat the price for the performance and even if it's a dud, you still spent on the lower end of the price spectrum for it.
@user-hy1dy2tp8z Yea bias in saying they're all the same. Makes sense...
Cassette,i believe i seen a video the guy was at40 mph steady,
All speculation until the new model is in our hands and the reviewers hands. If you are concerned, wait a month or two then judge for yourself.
That’s True, I’m just giving an opinion based on the information available. The bike is in some select reviewers hands already. Citizen cycle being one of them. I will certainly be talking about wired EBikes again I’m sure
I agree with you about having concerns. I decided to take the chance and ordered one of the 2024 models. Fingers crossed I don't have problems. I know nothing about ebikes so I'd be paying for the repairs at some shop.
it seems like a great value, it should be fine. I do like the bike. Some local bike stores are wary of working on ebikes, it depends on the particular shop. If you need normal bike work done like brakes or spoke tension etc, its the same as a normal bike and you could bring it in without the battery- if it made them feel more comfortable. But the local bike store might not be comfortable/able to help you swap out the motor core if something goes wrong. They have liability issues with certain things. But by taking out that battery it mitigates the risk of fire at least. And another thing is there are a bajillion people on craigslist and facebook market place that are basically mike mechanics in their spare time. and would jump on the opportunity to make an extra couple bucks. There are mobile bike mechanics that show up in a van and work on your bike. Lots of options
Thanks. To be honest I'm not too concerned other than it being in my possession by mid to late November. That's when I should be headed to NM for the winter. It would totally suck if I didn't have before then. But hopefully I could get the delivery changed to my address there instead of here in Pennsylvania. Lol. I have a background in motorcycles street and dirt for the last 45 plus years so working on it shouldn't be too scary. Just need to hunt up a repair manual for things. As for the social media you mentioned I'm not a user of any of them other than reddit and a couple motorcycle forums.
I have the 23 version, and I'm already gonna buy the 24 version. Your bike will come. Customer services, phenomenal.. You're gonna love this bike.
@@joeschmuckatelli3198 thanks for the words of encouragement
@@snakeoiler2921 I was worried before I got my August bike.... Can't stay off this thing.. definitely getting the new bike.. Have faith. This company is stand up top-notch. I've had a couple minor issues with my bike. And they are on it they get right back with.. Is either through email or phone call.. That's customer service I've ever had in my life through any product I've ever owned, I'm 45.
I like that you are critical in your videos. Im always up for learning more from great content. Great video my friend
Thanks mate, I appreciate the kind words. I'm just calling it how i see it. I don't have a bone to pick or anything, I like the Wired bikes and what they are doing
You gotta take another look at the Wired bike offering. The price of the bike hasn't changed but most of the specs have improved, even though they were already all pretty high for that price of $2000. Their site now states: 3200W Peak Output (from 2200W), 153 NM of Torque (from 138nm), 45 Amp controller (from 40), dual battery now (20Ah + 15Ah) for 2100 total Wh (was a single 1200Wh). All this and the price is still $2000 - but now pre-order ship dates are July 2024. All pretty unbelievable even without considering the sketchiness of the owners. I'm curious if you've heard any more about them or about any real owners actual experiences.
all I know is the Steve guy was a bit of a creeper in the comments and got annoying so fuck them
Ik you trying to help the ebike community but everyone that had one seems to love it and it looks like a amazing deal for only 2k so imma have to still buy one😂
My only complaint is they charge $250 for shipping so the bike is not 2000 but 2250 plus tax.
I loved it until it stopped working.
@@kmel77083oh dang how many miles you had on it when it stopped 😭
@@hankm16 111 miles
Like i said its a good value, if the bike ships on time and shows up working, i would be happy with it. Not trying to stop anyone from buying it. I would use the freedom frame instead of my bike frame if i had it available. I like how it has rear suspension. My problem isn’t so much with the bike, more with the company and how they have been spamming my comments section al year 😂🤣
Everything is under warranty so not sure why people would be returning a new bike.. But i can see if its totally trashed in shipping and they wont deal with it properly.. I would get some kind of insurance or something.
Yeah it sounds like its worth paying for shipping insurance, if you are picky about that and plan on buying a Wired ebike Lol.
I paid like 15 bucks for shipping insurance but got lucky and no shipping damage.
@@timothywarehime5956 my bike had a damaged battery casing but not bad ..
@@timothywarehime5956 If the shipping insurance is only 15$, i would do that for sure.
@@timothywarehime5956 where? It’s not $15 on the site :/
I met Steve and took the bike for a test ride. I met him at the address on the website, which is at a law office or something. The bike I road was the old model. It road really nice, but I also just test wrote it in the neighborhood by their office and the roads are in good shape there, so I wasn't really putting it to the test. If you're in a shorter than 5 ft 6 you're going to have a hard time putting your feet on the ground. It's a big bike.
Nice, thanks for sharing your experience w/ Wired ebikes , that is very fair. I am surprised they didn't have the new model available for a test ride? Hmm. Also thanks for that bit about the roads being in good shape. That's what I thought about the standover of the bike! at the time they had claimed it would fit a 5'4 rider, but that seems like a stretch! Did you place an order for the bike? or still considering it?
@EBikeBuilder_ I bought two of them, The Cruise for my wife and the freedom for myself. Steve even gave me a discount code that knocked $50 off each bike.
is there any PAS e-bike faster than Wired Freedom and Goat Powered E-bike or goes 55 mph speed under $2500?
55mph u need like a QS205 or QS273 direct drive hub , maybe even just some generic 3000W hub could do it, with a fardriver controller , and high voltage high discharge battery. BUT Prebuilt ebikes are barely 60V at this point, you are looking for 72V and beyond with a battery and controller that can do hundreds of amps. After 30mph it takes something like double power just to go every 10mph faster, due to wind resistance. In terms of pedaling and actually having resistance on the pedals, it depends on your wheel size but at some point its just impossible to pedal along regardless of your chairing and gearing. And for 2500$ what you want probably isn’t possible unless you literally build the battery youself and strap a crazy motor and battery on a really cheap or free bike. It might be possible. Probably more like 3 grand . If you are going fast need good brakes and everything just gets heavier and more expensive. That’s more motorcycle type components, not bicycle stuff. If you’re only buying prebuilt, then id get a goat powered Ebike, yeah, or something similar With a high power direct drive motor. Probably has the best upgrade potential. the motor goat on 60V goes pretty fast, on 72V itd probably do 50+ , that’s really the only prebuilt with a decent direct drive hub that I’ve seen. But idk depending on how you ride, a geared hub could have more torque. I wouldn’t be taking s motor goat on any trails or be seriously pedaling a motor goat, i don’t think its made for pedaling really.
This company should be under investigation,I paid and ordered a Freedom in Mid September and now they are saying not until mid January due to a lost container.The company said they sent several emails out to paid customers about another extended delay but I never received but one about a delay in mid November shipment.I don't believe them.Anyone else got this story from them?
I had someone recently else tell me they paid for a bike for the november shipment, WIRED claimed "not all of the bikes made to Chicago", so apparently they made an order for bikes and the shipment got shorted and didn't get as many as they thought? How does a shipping container go missing lmfao. Like imagine how many boxed ebikes you can fit in a shipping container. I might do a video about it. thats crazy.
@@EBikeBuilder_ If you google shipping container accidents you can find some pretty amazing accidents at sea and in port.
Nobody's going to want to return this bike. You're not going to be spended $700 to return it. You're going to keep it, trust me. I own one I'm getting ready to order a second 1... Absolutely amazing bike. Is amazing company. Amazing customer service.
thanks for sharing your exprience with Wired. its a nice bike and it doesn't make any sense to return it, thats kind of how ebike return policies are structured, just something to be aware of. Did you have to contact their customer support? I am curious about your experience with that, some other people have said they were not getting helped as fast as they hoped.
@@EBikeBuilder_ I have gotten a response immediately in the middle of the night before... It has also taken me a couple days to get a response.... Mostly through email... I did get a phone call from Dan to talk over some things. BEST customer service I've ever had in my life with any product ever.
It was either Dan or dave... I can't remember.
Probably Dan he’s solid
Wow why did you use convos against wired. Seems kinda like a smear campaign. Do you like the bike or not? Both Steve and Dan have helped me. Ive called and females pick up and transfer calls. Ive seen photos of warehouses. Youre picking at the company itself instead of buying the bike and doing an actual review. This video isnt the way and you can do so much better.
Jfly you forgot to log out of your spammer account.
@@HopFilms yeah look at all these accounts with the funny names. I wonder what’s going on with that? If you know, you know 😂🤣 ✌️👍
Great video with various valid points. I was wondering what is the use of the “Navidium Shipping Protection” offered on their site if someone gets a damaged bike then! Wouldn’t customers who purchased the insurance get compensated on damaged bikes? If not, why to pay for it then?!
never saw the Navidium thing previously. I think that must be a new option. That's interesting, I wonder how much it costs.
@@EBikeBuilder_ $75 it offers protection from damage, loss & theft. It shows as an option in their shopping cart before checkout, but I was wondering if this would really work in case of damaged parts? I’m not sure what would be the compensation mechanism?
I own the later 2023 model with the not so good rear suspension . I'm at 240lbs. and so I've got to extend the shock so far out as to not rub the controller box that I get no bounce at all . For the most part I am happy with the bike , my only other con is that when I first recieved it the bike's top speed was 36mph but after a few months it only gets up to about 33 or 34 mph .When I first got it the rear wheel rubbed the controller box so they shipped me a larger shock(& replacement box). Then my rear rack broke with only 20lbs on it and so they shipped me out another stronger one which I had purchased a rear rack from Amazon that was rated to carry 100lbs. and so I just used those support braces on the new rack so I could carry a spare battery . Since all that It's worked great all except for the loss of 3 - 4 mph , I do have to mention that it really accelerates up 20mph quickly which I appreciate for dodging traffic when I have to use the streets .
Hey thanks 🙏 for the comment and your input on the wired freedom. It seems like an OK bike. I wonder why your top speed went down, did you add s bunch of accessories, or change the tires or something? Even the tire pressure being lower could affect the top speed. The battery shouldn’t degrade significantly after a few months unless it gets frozen or severely abused. Thanks again for your comment mate i always enjoy hearing about these bikes!!
Hey. Thanks for the video. Do you know where its possible to buy this motor?
glad you enjoyed mate. i'm not sure about the Hengtai motors, I have never seen them for sale as a kit. I usually use the Bafang motors.
@@EBikeBuilder_ That's what I found as well, almost nothing.
My guess is that they manufacture and sell only in bulk order for other companies.
All and all. I think Wired freedom is an amazing deal. Nobody sells 60v bikes fat bike full suspension with geared hub motor. Quite unique.
I think I'll stick with BBSHD, 24s battery and custom controller. Is more reliable and plenty of parts available.
Cheers
@@Full_Throttle_no_BrakesBBSHD is great, i imagine on 24S that is much better than this bike. Would love to see a video of that some time👍
dont buy i had that shock system it will loosen and wooble side to side bracket and bushing are no good
thanks for the heads up. Janky rear suspension can be more of a problem than it's worth. I'm curious, which bike was that on?
That's the reason you very rarely see full suspension fat tire mountain bikes, in order to handle the abuse and the weight of a fat tire, it has to be super high-quality, probably like 2 Grand just for the suspension alone, even really high-end full suspension mountain bikes require constant maintenance, and replacing the bushings and bearings every so many years. Although I think with a little bit of modifying and creativity you may be able to tighten up the rear end on this bike. Couple trips to the hardware store, and some higher quality bearings from Amazon.
check and tighten shock bolts before every ride. takes like 20 seconds. blue locktite if they lossen up often. problem solved. the bike came with 2 shocks and two sets of bushings. I don't think that's the case with the new version though. not sure. I just missed out on the new one by 1 month.
Very interesting information. Thank you for sharing.
Hilarious!😂😂😂 Jfly2 responded to one of my E-cells comments in another post. Thanks for pointing this out!
Its Steve from wired, for sure
jfly coincidentally lives exactly where steve from wired lives imgur.com/a/4un1bTM
is Wired Freedom Chinese product?
Yeah the Chinese put them in the box and send them over. Most ebike stuff is Chinese. The only company i know if that actually assembles bikes in the us is Electric bike company and they’re slow and expensive unfortunately
@@EBikeBuilder_ oh no. Can you please put some US-made good E-bikes under $3000?
@@raja8806 no such thing. 99% ebikes made in China.
Confirmed Samsung 50E 5000mah 21700 cells, at least in my August delivered Wired cruiser. So far my battery has not disappointed, very good performance and range. I’ve spoken with Steve on the phone going through some set up on my bike when I had an issue with my headset needing a bit of extra torquing. I mean he could have been Dave saying his name was Steve the owner but he knew what he was talking about and we got it sorted so I was content with the support.
thanks for confirming the 50E cells. in a 16S config thats 64 cells, each cell is about 69g, all the cells are 10 pounds, battery weight checks out. My only concern with those cells is in that 4p configuration at 9.8A max discharge on each cell, doing 40amps would be maxing the cells out. So if you are giving this bike full power its probably going to have the voltage drop quite a bit. I would have liked to see the battery cells not being used to 100% discharge capacity, they would last longer. But they are samsung so it's probably still decent
also thanks for sharing your experience with Wired ebikes, I think they are reasonable and perhaps just have a vocal minority of people who are unhappy
@@EBikeBuilder_ I agree, when I was running numbers after finding out what the cells were I too was a little concerned that the controller/motor are capable of pulling the maximum these cells are rated for. I haven’t noticed anything concerning battery performance wise and it barely gets warm after running pretty hard but it’s all still so new. Hopefully this battery ages well.
@@EBikeBuilder_ Just go on home depot or any huge retailer, there's a reason why the squeaky wheel gets the worm.
If it were widgets, you'd see tons of negative reviews, but out of millions sold.
the total definitive of click bate...
TLDR = i like the bike, not the company
5 mm Allen key for handle bars thicker than others
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I’m trying to figure out what’s your point in this video I hate when people don’t have something but give advice to people you never rode the bike but you giving a assessment of the bike I use to be a subscribe of yours and you hating on a company oh I see you asked for a bike to do a review and they said no, I get now
the point was to look at the bike and give my opinion. I never asked anyone for a bike. They wouldn't even have one to give me; they are always out of stock. 🤣😂 I don't want moron subscribers anyways, CYA! 👋👋
Those look like the same gears that use to be in the Arial Riders, I've never heard anything bad about them other then they are a little bit louder.
Ar used to use the same motors but switched to bafang
in my g62 when i opened it up, there was aluminum dust all over, caked in with the grease. And that's from nylon gears on aluminum, over 1 year of use. I wonder about the steel planetary gears? People seem to think the nylon gears are not strong, but I have done 4kw with my g62 and i don't see any damage to any nylon teeth. My planetary gears seem like the bearings will go bad before the nylon teeth do.
Hi I'm Mike I live in Chicago and Dan is real I met him last month when I went to pick up my bike from there warehouse it is a couple miles north of there office and its on the west side of ORD airport the bike is ok I got it up to 36 mph
Hey Mike thank you for sharing your experience with the wired ebike! Everyone seems to talk to Dan lol, I’m still wondering about Steve!! Thank you for that information, it seems to corroborate what others have said.
I have one. mine is in between models. and I love it! The sight does in Our Stores brag about lg batteries but are now samsung. IDK but personally been a awesome bike, and batteries do have an internal fuse so if batteries quits working open it up. i bought another then found that so I have an extra but that was a $800 mistake.
I bought a second battery, it's definitely not a mistake. It's a huge advantage having 2 batteries.
@@joeschmuckatelli3198 Its still a good chunk of money over a what ever a 10amp fuse is. And so far I havent needed a extra $800 battery with me. So I respectively disagree that it was not a $800 mistake. I do also admit I did do something stupid to blow the fuse. So that was my mistake. But even so, Now lugging this extra mass around I havent needed it and lugging it around is also been another mistake. lol
@@rabbithomesteading3797 Why do you L o l... Laugh out loud at your own statement? It seems that your statement has no credibility that you yourself laugh at it....,lol.. What kind of d******** laughs at their own statement?
Could u do a review on the engwe x26?
hey sorry Yt Swallowed this one on me , I am looking at this bike, it looks kind of cool I like how its got all the suspension. and 26" fat tires and the two batteries in the frame. I like how it has the Mag wheels where they dont have spokes. 1200W peak is kind of weak, the controller might be a low amp controller. It says its a 1000W motor, so if its truly a 1000w motor, it should have a L1019 connector, and be able to be upgraded to a better controller. But it says 70NM torque, so it kind of makes me feel like it might be a 750W motor and they are just saying 1000W? The BMS on the battery might be limited to a certain amperage. So i think the limiting factor on this X26 is the controller amps, it could use a better controller. And im not sure how many amps the batteries can discharge. I like the bike itself. It could be really cool with better battery cells in it. ANd a good controller. I would only try to upgrade the controller if its truly a 1000w nominal controller. Figure out what kindof motor cable connector they use for it. And that gives you an idea of how thick the phase wires are and how much current it can handle. I like the suspension and design. I have heard ENGWE is not great with customer support though.
Nylon Gear's use bugger all lubrication compared too metal one's plus quieter Metal is definitely stronger
Hence the Hybrid I suppose best of both worlds
I’ve heard someone say the hybrid are quieter than nylon sometimes. I’m surprised by how strong the aftermarket 5$ set of nylon gears are. Maybe for the wired they needed hybrids. They say its 130nm or something. Probably too much for nylon. I’ve ran 90 phase amps ( about 100nm to 110nm) on my g62 reliably for a few years with nylon.
The COO Dan Macahon shows up as a lawyer/realtor in Wood Dale Illinois ,same address of law firm is address for Wired freedom. Love your content
thanks mate i appreciate the kind words. Yeah Dan is some kind of a lawyer realtor guy. And Steve seems a bit more mysterious
Other times, when things are made of different materials, they strengthen the weaker material.
That’s possible, but I’ve never broke a nylon gear with any of my bafang motors, mid drive or hubs. It seems like marketing fluff solving a problem that isn’t really a problem. It would probably be much easier to source bafang gears than the hengtai hybrid ones
My rack was damaged and so were my fenders. I got rid of the fenders. they were a bent up mess. Look its an ok bike. They are fun. its 2 grand which is way cheaper than even mid level brand bikes from legacy builder. Keep the expectations there. The cruiser is a little dangerous imo. If I got a wired id stick to the freedom. I ride super bikes around a track all the time so danger subjective.. The frame has a modulation issue in its design or my frame has issues. Just hop off the bike and grab a handle and move it back and forth and you'll feel the frame warping. I initially thought the speed wobbles I get were from a loose headset but that was just exaggerating the problem. Even with it tightened perfectly, I still get speed wobbles. Then I thought maybe its just a symptom of all step thru's but I got another step though and it does not suffer from the same issue. You have to have your ass in the seat to stabilize the frame and a lot of people stand up on these bikes. . Not an issue at 15 mph .. but when youre hitting 38 mph it can be and a lot of p[epple buy this bike and there first thing they to is find a hill and pin it. . You feel it start to wobble and it gets progressively worse if you dont slow. So if you have the cruiser just be careful pushing it. Make sure everything is torq'd to a decent spec every few weeks. I have no real issues with wired but they aren't the super supportive company that everyone on here claims. but how can they be? theres no way they are making margins on these bikes at this time. Ill give them a pass at 2K but I dont expect the price san going to stay there.
Thanks 🙏 @HopFilms that is a very fair account of your experience with wired e-bikes. That’s a good way to sum it up- keep expectations in check. Its a lot of ebike for 2k, something has to give somewhere. also VERY interesting to hear about the speed wobbles with the cruiser!! I have never heard about that. Very good warning ⚠️ for anyone with a cruiser! It would be interesting to see a video of the wobbles!!
Dang, i was looking at the Cruiser since i'm on the shorter side. This is making me rethink my decision
@@azutori they are both really tall bikes. The only thing it should give you pause on is if you’re planning on pushing it to its tops speeds often. IF that’s the case get the freedom. If you’re just cruising. Then it’s not a huge issue. When I notice it the most is when I go over a curb like transitioning from
Road to side walk. It gets a little wobble and feels unstable. I’m also tall and have my seat at the highest position. I wonder if the wobble would be there if the post was seated lower.
@@HopFilms Thanks for the heads up. I think i’ll stick with the Cruiser since i’m 5’0 (yeah i’m really short), so my seat would be at the lowest. I’ll be pushing it here and there but not often
@@EBikeBuilder_ Ill post one. Its pretty wild. I would have posted one sooner but trying to duck the wired mafia..
Can i get it to Italy?
probably not. they dont ship outside the u.s as far as i know.
Just to
Expensive for my pockets.
Great vid. You touch on a lot of the pet peeves I share with regards to ebikes. Specifically range claims and rider height info. They should ALWAYS rate rider height by leg inseam measurements from seat to ground. I've ridden 5 different brands of ebike claiming that the were suitable for riders 5'5" and above. Only one of them was accurate. As for range, they always choose the most favorable conditions i.e. light rider weight, very low speed and pedal assist, on level or downhill terrain, not against wind etc. BTW, great investigating on the "about us" of ebike sites! 👍
EBikeBuilder could you do a Ride1Up investigation......thinking about getting their Cafe Cruiser but skeptical about their so called 750 watt (sustained ) motor
I will do one Yeah, i have something about the Revv1 too. And im glancing at the Cafe Cruiser and you are right to be skeptical of that motor
Great video, I was looking at the wired, I think it just fell off my list after this. Do have any recommendations for a fat tire e-bike. It will be my 1st one. I like the Yoto, and I’m not finding a lot of reviews/ research out there. Thanks
Jfly is wrong, customer service sucks ass. I ride 10 miles round trip 5 days a week and 6 months old and the battery is toast, they want 800 for a new one, im super pissed
Also V1 or what ever original version was call... with all the tires rubbing into the controller housing. Their fix was...Ok we will ship you the china made bike distributed here in the usa, bad! But we will send you the parts to fix it. Who does that...????
Hey thanks 🙏 for bringing that up. I thought about that with the v1; the controller was crazy close to the wheel and it looked like depending on the suspension it would rub. That’s crazy if it was rubbing with the stock setup and no changes to the suspension. They must not have tested the suspension with different adjustments and rider weight.
Btw i am curious about what they had you do for the fix? what parts could they send to fix a problem like that?? It seemed like a fundamental problem with the suspension and tire clearance.
@@EBikeBuilder_ The fix was a longer shock thrown in the box that the buyer had to replace. Lol. They did make the swingarm longer on my version and then totally different on the 24 model
The old Mozo Fork is not perfect, but way more trail capable than the new RST, Chow Yang is also underrated, since they started using on e bikes people got the impression that they generic tires, Diamondback used to put them on some really nice higher-end fat tire bikes back when I used to make nice fat bikes. Not as expensive as Maxxis but not cheap.
Chao Yangs are the most underrated tires, i love them. They have them on Amazon in 20x4 and 26x4 as “Mongoose Fat Tire Mountain Bike Accessory” and they are super cheap. I’ve got the 20x4 tires as cheap as 35$ and they would last several thousand miles. Better than any kenda I’ve tried
@@EBikeBuilder_ I just ordered the more expensive ones, I haven't received them yet, I will let you know, they were $140 for a pack of two, used to be $160. Panaracer also make some killer fat tires, but they hard to come by lately.
@@bassw1758nice!! Please do let me know how they perform!
Totally agree with you on the range estimates would like them to state the weight of the rider and the speed they rode so we could estimate from the information
Its a 60 amp controller, so if you are doing 60 amps full power - the 20ah battery could drain in as little as 20 minutes. With ebikes you have to choose, do you want to go FAST? Or go FAR? On my 20ah battery i usually can go about 30 miles but i am 150 pounds
It says at PAS 1, that is pedal assist 1
I did a google street view of the business mailing address and it looks like an open field or at best a one room office. Hard to tell. It is sketchy to give them $2,000 regardless of the specs.
that is the office. they have a large warehouse nearby.
@@timothywarehime5956 thanks for that information good to know. I wish i could see a picture of dan and steve standing in front of a warehouse of bikes, i would feel more confident lol
@@EBikeBuilder_Everybody's gotten their bikes so far. Everybody's gonna get their bikes again.
OMG relax!
Haha shoutout Twinnzllc for making an appearance in your vid. Glad you called out jfly. Definitely something fishy with that account
BIG SHOUT OUTTTTT!!! 🙌i am LOLin' so hard 🤣😂🤣😂
Our buddy Jfly just reared it's ugly head in another video by one of my buddies channel. OregonEbikerMark ....I just noticed today.. Another sales pitch.. I think the video was from 5 days ago about the Wired Freedom.
JFLY spams about Wired ebikes like its his full time job. He was on Russ is Right videos that I watched as well. I didn't mind his comments for a long time and I left them up. Some of them are insightful comments I didnt mind for a while. But he will easily get offended and start attacking your character over some trivial opinion Lol. He had a bunch of comments "held for review" that i never saw for a long time, then I was just like OK cya later Lol. idk what is going on with the guy but he's out of here I'm done listening to it 🤣😂
@@EBikeBuilder_ I know Russ is Right channel ..yeah.. 😂 Fly maybe needs to show us his bike video.
Looks like a lot of smoke and mirrors
I like the bike. It was hilarious i stumbled across more smoke and mirrors, randomly as I am looking the bike over. Perfect example of what I am talking about. The bike seems good enough to speak for itself, I don't understand why they need bots and spam in the comments.
I'm really excited to see the science bear out regarding the steer reinforced gears. The only real way to know is keep track of owners over time and see how many miles these bikes get before motor failure vs typical e-bike.
metal gears seem like a marketing thing. Solving a problem that isn't a problem. I've used my bafang g62 thousands of miles over several years, the nylon teeth are still fine and there is no damge to them, despite that i was running the motor 2-3x the nominal power levels. The nylon gears are a problem that didn't need fixing. They are designed to be a point of failure, at a component that is easy to remove and replace. The steel gears I imagine would cause more wear on the rest of the metal gears inside the hub motor. Even in my bafang g62 there is a lot of aluminum dust from the nylon gears against metal. Imagine metal gears against metal
This is a typical Ebike bud😅 I swear, people who haven't bought one are either butthurt they haven't bought one and waiting for parts to fail for. Their own supposed merit 😂
EBikeBuilder is the Mother Teresa of JayFly critics!
guy goes around to every ebike video spamming about wired like its a full time position
Thank you for your fair and honest critical review!
anytime mate happy to help, glad you enjoyed, the long story short of it - is basically, i think the bike looks pretty good, great value. But I'm not a big fan of WIRED the company My spidey senses are tingling
A back rack
Fuck I was literally about to buy this
I like the bike itself, but I’m not sure about the company.
@@EBikeBuilder_ I can’t find another bike similar price and performance, I think I’m going to have to risk it with this bike :/
@@UtubeSurfer7 Like I say, if I bought an ebike i would probably buy this one. It's a good value. But I don't know if I can buy one now, Steve will probably send me a lemon. 🤣😂
@@EBikeBuilder_ i had recently bought an euy k6 pro bike and it’s super fun, but wanted to go faster 😂 I bought a bigger controller for it but it’s a nightmare trying to install it on the euy bikes . So I wanted to buy this wired freedom bike, but like you said , we will end up getting lemons delivered 😂
I was the same way John but I decided to call the company and found out that the shipping price was $250. It is totally false advertising to say that the price of the bike is less than $2,000, no it isn't, it's 2250 with shipping. As if the shipping price doesn't matter, the angry person and support with an attitude told me that free shipping was just a gimmick. Read my comment on this post and you will see what transpired. I wouldn't touch this company with a ten-foot pole.
so far it sounds like a real screw U job
Can I buy the 2024 wired freedom model off of anybody for up to 1000$ more? I need this bike for commuting and a big trip I plan on taking across the country and back. Any other bike like this has been too expensive and I know I'm basically negating that, but I really like the bike. The supplier says they're out and can't do anything about it.
I plan on preordering for January but my trip ends before January and am not rich enough to buy another bike and then receive my wired 2024 on January.
Any tips or advice on where I can do this would be much appreciated.
@@CR2d2 I'm in Canada right now visiting family but need to come back to the states in about a week anyways. If you have the 2024 model I'll come right to you and buy it.
Scary that it's possible to get taken for close to a thousand dollars.
I'm now wondering if any of these middleman suppliers offers insurance to cover the purchase at no cost to the buyers
shipping insurance was 15 bucks.
@timothywarehime5956 It's 75 bucks for the insurance now
inflation is a bitch@@jaymartinson3236