Philip Goff on Why its Important to divorce purpose from God

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  • @84meisaid
    @84meisaid Місяць тому +8

    “If such God was all powerful and you recognized yourself as not that God, would you have the capacity to second guess that existence” Thank you Vivek..

    • @wolflarson71
      @wolflarson71 Місяць тому

      How convenient.

    • @AlphaCrucis
      @AlphaCrucis Місяць тому

      I was given the capacity to reason and second guess such existence though, and if that's not enough, why bother question anything if God just intended for it to be that way? Treating god as a sort of "person" rather than some sort of abstraction of the highest good just does not work for me. Jordan Peterson was the first to get god to make any sort of sense to me, so I guess I'll just stick with something closer to his view.

    • @GailUrge-vq6qn
      @GailUrge-vq6qn Місяць тому +1

      It's more like...."would your deficiencies not cause you to second guess that existence" Thank you Vivek.

  • @bobsmith-ui8uw
    @bobsmith-ui8uw Місяць тому +5

    Vivek for president

  • @nikopawlowic6557
    @nikopawlowic6557 Місяць тому +2

    Don't ever divorce purpose from God, if you think that you have more power than He, well do try to build stars, planets, and moons, along with all that exists in their entities. Our understanding of God is miniscule, but He did give us The Word, His Son, and The Holy Spirit. Now yes there are crazy things and occurences that we may not be able to explain, but it all comes from God.

    • @sunnyskye213
      @sunnyskye213 Місяць тому

      Keep trying to survive without HIM.....Thee Enlightened LIVE this SPIRITUAL JOURNEY WITH, HIM......❤

  • @DogOneIsOpen
    @DogOneIsOpen Місяць тому +9

    Divorcing your purpose from God is a huge mistake. Everything hinges on whether or not God exists. If he didn’t exist, there would be no reason for anything other than your own pleasure in this short life. Even being kind in such a scenario is only for your own pleasure since there is no concrete basis for being “good.” If he does exist, then you should be doing everything to worship Him and align yourself with His divine plan and purpose.

    • @wolflarson71
      @wolflarson71 Місяць тому

      Begging the question + false dichotomy logical fallacies.

    • @DogOneIsOpen
      @DogOneIsOpen Місяць тому +1

      @@wolflarson71 I’d be interested in hearing where you could find real purpose and morality that’s more or less universal outside of any true divine being.

    • @wolflarson71
      @wolflarson71 Місяць тому

      @@DogOneIsOpen I think around 50% of the world is not monotheistic and live peaceful/productive/meaningful lives.

    • @DogOneIsOpen
      @DogOneIsOpen Місяць тому

      @@wolflarson71 Are they really? Many of them are liars, thieves, adulterers, etc. according to God’s law. Many are in fact full of malice and envy. In Christianity there is the concept that all have sinned against the supreme power in the universe. But if the supreme power doesn’t exist then there is neither need to worry about wrongdoing eternally, making everything permissible so long as someone cannot prevent you from doing it, nor is there real purpose outside of what your own mind conjures up.

    • @DogOneIsOpen
      @DogOneIsOpen Місяць тому

      @@wolflarson71By whose standard?

  • @Tyrant_13
    @Tyrant_13 Місяць тому

    Goff is such a pseud.

  • @GardenGreen99
    @GardenGreen99 Місяць тому +1

    America 🇺🇲🇺🇲❤️

  • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodin1559
    @yourfriendlyneighborhoodin1559 Місяць тому +3

    Logic demands that only one religion can be valid.
    God acknowledges the presence of imaginary deities. The first commandment is:
    Exodus 20:3
    "You shall have no other gods before me."
    All religions have differing accounts of the origin of the universe, the nature of God, and what he has or has not said. Therefore, the law of non-contradiction is all that is necessary to understand that only one of them can be true.
    Furthermore, God knows he gave logical minds to mankind.
    So, he does not spend any effort trying to disprove things that every man already knows are logically impossible.

    • @slickrick7438
      @slickrick7438 Місяць тому

      Logic most certainly does not demand that only one religion is valid. The fact is they all have bits and pieces that are correct. The problem is when mankind starts believing its own bowlshit, then starts adding all kinds of crap rules basically putting handcuffs on humans capability of understanding God. Acting like only one religion has it right is very narrow minded.

    • @yourfriendlyneighborhoodin1559
      @yourfriendlyneighborhoodin1559 Місяць тому

      @@slickrick7438 is God capable of communicating in human language?
      This is a rhetorical question.

  • @bronson9253
    @bronson9253 Місяць тому +1

    👍❤️🙏

  • @markvietti
    @markvietti Місяць тому

    hes right

  • @wolflarson71
    @wolflarson71 Місяць тому

    If faith/supernatural are defining elements of religion/god, then discussion is pointless since nothing can ever be proven or disproven because science and reason can't be applied.

    • @user-tl5yb1jy7c
      @user-tl5yb1jy7c Місяць тому

      Incorrect, scientific truth, i.e. left brained obsessive and narrow thinking, is not the only purpose for a discussion

  • @adithyanr7415
    @adithyanr7415 Місяць тому +3

    Oh ffs Vivek
    Stop pandering to the "Jesus is King" crowd
    Might as well change your name to Vincent while you're at it

  • @maskedmarvel
    @maskedmarvel 29 днів тому

    Christ is King.

  • @fluke8928
    @fluke8928 Місяць тому +3

    Vivek read the Bible and find Jesus in your heart. For your soul. Praying for you to be saved man

    • @pmaitrasm
      @pmaitrasm 25 днів тому

      His faith has brought him thus far. He is not likely to give up on it.

  • @FreeFreeFrankenstein
    @FreeFreeFrankenstein Місяць тому +1

    🇺🇸VIVEK, TUCKER & ELON TEAM TRUMP 2024!🇺🇸

    • @sunnyskye213
      @sunnyskye213 Місяць тому

      OH...😮...LORD, LET'S HOPE N-O-T!!!!

  • @apostlemishe
    @apostlemishe Місяць тому +5

    The Lord Jesus said that Vivek will be Trumps VP and president 48 and 49 and live in the White House for 12 years

  • @nobodyspecial1852
    @nobodyspecial1852 Місяць тому +1

    If Vivek can get in office and not slander God by being a fake Christian, or swearing in on a blasphemous Jefferson Bible, we'll have a chance for him to do right. God can use pagan kings for good but he won't bless (theological) adulterers claiming to be his own, he'll curse that every time.

    • @pmaitrasm
      @pmaitrasm 25 днів тому

      I love the Jefferson Bible. It removes falsehoods that some people believe. I understand it makes some people angry. Vote for Mike Pence instead. He will make you sit in a trench in Ukraine.