From 27:30 "I hate to think of what Cole had to do as a child to survive." Have watched this movie at least half a dozen times and this never occurred to me. It's another layer to digest. Great movie, great review. Subscribed.
Great review guys, and well done wrapping your heads around this stellar slice of insanity. Twelve Monkeys shines best through repeat viewings as you notice and come to realise how masterful the warped and intertwined story plays out on the screen, and in your mind. Awesome.
I have to admit that, back in 96 when i got this on VHS - i was around 15/16 at he time - i never fully understood this movie, at least thats what i remember. but watching your deep dive review was amazing, it made me realize that i remembered only a quarter of the movie at all. definitly have to re-watch it with some fresh old eyes and a broadend mindset! Thanks for the video, i love what you do. :)
I remember when this came out, I was 15. I was always curious about this film but have never seen it. I am picking it up on iTunes! I know I won't be disappointed. Another amazing review guys! Thank you very much!
I can not believe I never realized that "12 Monkeys" was a Terry Gilliam movie. I will say that I have always loved this movie. I never really knew if Bruce Willis was actually from the future or if he really was just in the mental hospital. Even at the end, when the actual virus is released by the scientist...did that really happen? Did it? By that point you honestly have no idea if this means that the story's premise is real...or if he's honestly totally let go of reality...
Hmmm, or maybe Cole was used to actually create the events causing release of the virus, and the "scientist" arrived after his death to insure its carried out. Only then does the movie make sense logically.
She might, however she knows that the virus was already released in Philadelphia. I think it's more likely that she aims to extract as much information as possible from him to stop him from releasing it in the first place. I think that's why she says that humanity will destroy itself, I think she's trying to use her womanly nature to get on the good side of a guy who probably hasn't been laid in a long time to spill his full life story so that they can shift the timeline for good.
My favorite scene by far is when Brad Pitt's character is explaining to his friends how this psychiatrist has figured out everything about the 12 monkeys. A delightfully insane rant!
Yes! I always took it that the lady at the end was sent back to stop it all so it wasn’t all for nothing. She IS the insurance. It’s that glimmer of hope and I like it. It’s s sad but hopeful ending
I'm glad to see this review up, but it says it was published 7 days ago along with "Pit Stop" and theres just no way lol. All these comments says "7 days ago" too, and I dont ever miss a review, so this has to be a glitch lol
A great, great film. Rich with theme, amazing in its look, enthralling throughout. The whole cast is great, and while it goes without saying Pitt is great, it’s always great to see Bruce Willis in a role where he gave a shit, and really acts his ass off. No matter what one thinks of his conduct in the last decade, what’s befallen Willis recently is fucking horrible. He was a childhood favourite and I’ll always have respect for him
Hidden Gilliam Gem 1988's The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Robin Williams acted in it for free and uncredited after budgeted monies ran out during filming.
how the bootstrap paradox works narratively : Brad Pitt originally came up with the idea himself, but as soon as they sent people back talking about the virus the source of the virus became the time travellers creating a loop that bruce willis is stuck in. That's the paradox of the bootstrap is that the macguffin has no source it just 'existis'
40:12 It's white cop and black cop again! Thanks for pointing out an element I never noticed before. For me this is Gilliam's last great film, and it's really up there. (Dr Parnassus might have been up there, except the edit was rushed and Ledger was miscast.) Gilliam's first, Jabberwocky, is also great and doesn't get the attention it deserves. BTW, the 12 Monkeys TV series was surprisingly good, recommended if you want a longer watch.
NICE EXUBERANT COMMENTARY by serious FANS of Terry like myself! His last two films are the only ones I didn't fully comprehend, NEVERTHELESS, 12 MONKEYS is PERFECTION. ALL the INTENTIONAL ambiguities you all point out are INDEED RESOLVED!!! Major things to remember throughout: The FUTURE has ALREADY happened which is provided in the opening scene which COLE repeatedly says throughout the film. WE the audience are DR. RAILY trying to understand as the confusion & questions are cleverly and brilliantly presented. The dynamics between her and COLE's love story is wonderfully paced as it builds. The way we are made to wonder whether he is actually insane or not throughout is incredible. It's aLL like a PUZZLE that pulls together piece by piece. THERE ARE NO WASTED SCENES or pieces that are not clues towards putting together the story. It's an absolute amazingly scripted mystery with a profound realization that's only completely revealed at the very end. It's both a sad but satisfying finale because Cole does succeed plus we were already notified of his impending death. NARRATIVELY & VISUALLY it's probably the GREATEST TIME TRAVELING SCI-FI film ever made!
This is nothing about this review but thanks for doing wot you do guys , literally kept me going through lockdowns last year , much respect to you both
17:51 Anyone who's seen Moonlighting know of Bruce Willis'acting range. Shame that we only got to see him in action films and his comedies, etc didn't work out.
honestly I've always seen the ending as a bad ending, as in the lady is on the plane to ensure the virus gets spread so society will collapse and she (and the other scientists) will be on top of what remains. in other words, she's there to ensure her own position at the top of the post-virus society. love your reviews!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this movie. lt's funny but ever since l saw the movie for the first time l thought the old lady had come back from the future for the virus sample, so to me it was not ambiguous but bittersweet given that Bruce Willis character had to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order for the future to possibly have a chance.
The adult Bruce Willis from the fucked up future, yes. The child Bruce Willis can still be saved by altering the timeline to prevent the virus from being released in the first place, from then on we don't know that kids future any longer.
This was one of my favourite movies at one time and Terry Gilliam was also one of my favourite directors. Fisher King was a favourite movie of many of my friends. Many others had Fear and loathing as favourite. But Brazil is my absolute favourite of his, I think I have seen that too many times to be healthy almost, it is like a scarier more plausible and twisted 1984. The Lost in La Mancha documentary is also just absolutely amazing. I also heard the tv show 12 monkeys was good, but have not seen it.
The TV show is definitely worth checking out. It gets better as it goes on, i.e. the first season is fairly grim but after that the show develops a sense of humor.
this movie definitely has the best time travel is it real is it not plot. They made damned sure to parallel scenes in each timeline. Also pretty sure every phone number they call was bugged or wiretapped in the 90's that's why they have recordings in the far future
I'm ashamed to say, that never found the movie that great. Maybe it's because didn't watch it at release date, but saw the ending coming almost immediately and the rest felt somewhat derivative, even though theoretically, it should had been my jam. Tried to watch it again, and felt asleep 😂. The cinematography is great, and I do love Time Bandits and other of Gillian's films. The overall story wasn't just that unique, by the time I saw it.
did this review time travel from a week ago cos it didn't pop up in my subscriptions........wait a minute is this real ?....am i real....is that a hamster in a wheel ARRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
My favorite two movie reviewers in the world. So happy when I see a new Off The Shelf Reviews hit my timeline. Never stop!
From 27:30 "I hate to think of what Cole had to do as a child to survive." Have watched this movie at least half a dozen times and this never occurred to me. It's another layer to digest. Great movie, great review. Subscribed.
Brad Pitt was on a tear in the 90's every acting performance was top tier A list, the guy could do no wrong.
19:30 - Another crazy link to The Sixth Sense: Bruce Willis' character's surname is Cole, and Haley Joel Osment's character is named Cole Sear.
Bruce Willis sure made some great films in his prime. As always great review guys.
So happy to see you guys review this one.
'12 Monkeys' is a really interesting Film and definitely worth watching..
Excellent Review, Gary & Iain !
Great review guys, and well done wrapping your heads around this stellar slice of insanity.
Twelve Monkeys shines best through repeat viewings as you notice and come to realise how masterful the warped and intertwined story plays out on the screen, and in your mind.
Awesome.
I have to admit that, back in 96 when i got this on VHS - i was around 15/16 at he time - i never fully understood this movie, at least thats what i remember. but watching your deep dive review was amazing, it made me realize that i remembered only a quarter of the movie at all. definitly have to re-watch it with some fresh old eyes and a broadend mindset! Thanks for the video, i love what you do. :)
I remember when this came out, I was 15. I was always curious about this film but have never seen it. I am picking it up on iTunes! I know I won't be disappointed. Another amazing review guys! Thank you very much!
I can not believe I never realized that "12 Monkeys" was a Terry Gilliam movie. I will say that I have always loved this movie. I never really knew if Bruce Willis was actually from the future or if he really was just in the mental hospital. Even at the end, when the actual virus is released by the scientist...did that really happen? Did it? By that point you honestly have no idea if this means that the story's premise is real...or if he's honestly totally let go of reality...
As I saw this movie as a kid I saw Cole's mission as successful because the woman scientist says "I'm in insurance" because she's gonna kill that guy
Exactly what I thought
Hmmm, or maybe Cole was used to actually create the events causing release of the virus, and the "scientist" arrived after his death to insure its carried out. Only then does the movie make sense logically.
@@rosemaryfarell5264great minds think alike
She might, however she knows that the virus was already released in Philadelphia. I think it's more likely that she aims to extract as much information as possible from him to stop him from releasing it in the first place. I think that's why she says that humanity will destroy itself, I think she's trying to use her womanly nature to get on the good side of a guy who probably hasn't been laid in a long time to spill his full life story so that they can shift the timeline for good.
I can't believe I missed this review when you put it out. This is one of my favorite movies.
Really hope you keep reviewing Gilliam's films.
Great to see you got the review back up 👊
Thanks you guys for taking one of my requests ❤ my favourite Bruce Willis movie 🥰
i've been binging your guy's content, i've been a longtime fan but it's been a while im glad im back watching your marvelous reviews.
My favorite scene by far is when Brad Pitt's character is explaining to his friends how this psychiatrist has figured out everything about the 12 monkeys. A delightfully insane rant!
the picture of the priest behind madeline stowes character at the presentation, its the guy who tells bruce willis, youre one of us
Missed that!
"12 MONKEYS OVA HERE! 12 MONKEYS OVA THERE!" -Eric Andre
The first time I saw it I fell in love with this movie seeing it 15 years ago on tv same with Brazil by terry Gilliam what a genius director
The street preacher was discussed in the slide show when she was giving a presentation.
Yes! I always took it that the lady at the end was sent back to stop it all so it wasn’t all for nothing. She IS the insurance. It’s that glimmer of hope and I like it. It’s s sad but hopeful ending
I'm glad to see this review up, but it says it was published 7 days ago along with "Pit Stop" and theres just no way lol. All these comments says "7 days ago" too, and I dont ever miss a review, so this has to be a glitch lol
Great film! Glad you got it uploaded! Cheers guys! 😁👍
A great, great film. Rich with theme, amazing in its look, enthralling throughout. The whole cast is great, and while it goes without saying Pitt is great, it’s always great to see Bruce Willis in a role where he gave a shit, and really acts his ass off.
No matter what one thinks of his conduct in the last decade, what’s befallen Willis recently is fucking horrible. He was a childhood favourite and I’ll always have respect for him
Awesome review as always, and T-shirts are on point once again guys 👊🤘👊🤘
And i think you forget two Master pieces of Terry Gilliam : Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (screenplay) and The Adventures of Baron Munchausen :)
The belko experiment review 😎☠💀
Also The Sadness 😈
Another great review, thanks fellas
Hidden Gilliam Gem 1988's The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Robin Williams acted in it for free and uncredited after budgeted monies ran out during filming.
One of Bruce and Brads greatest performances.
When I was younger I thought this was actually about evil monkeys. Also Brad Pitt is my favorite in this.
how the bootstrap paradox works narratively : Brad Pitt originally came up with the idea himself, but as soon as they sent people back talking about the virus the source of the virus became the time travellers creating a loop that bruce willis is stuck in. That's the paradox of the bootstrap is that the macguffin has no source it just 'existis'
Another awesome review, guys! 👊👊
Can remember watching this movie in ‘95 when the entire family was home sick with the flu. Was sooooo scary as a wee lad!!
40:12 It's white cop and black cop again! Thanks for pointing out an element I never noticed before. For me this is Gilliam's last great film, and it's really up there. (Dr Parnassus might have been up there, except the edit was rushed and Ledger was miscast.) Gilliam's first, Jabberwocky, is also great and doesn't get the attention it deserves. BTW, the 12 Monkeys TV series was surprisingly good, recommended if you want a longer watch.
NICE EXUBERANT COMMENTARY by serious FANS of Terry like myself! His last two films are the only ones I didn't fully comprehend, NEVERTHELESS, 12 MONKEYS is PERFECTION. ALL the INTENTIONAL ambiguities you all point out are INDEED RESOLVED!!! Major things to remember throughout: The FUTURE has ALREADY happened which is provided in the opening scene which COLE repeatedly says throughout the film. WE the audience are DR. RAILY trying to understand as the confusion & questions are cleverly and brilliantly presented. The dynamics between her and COLE's love story is wonderfully paced as it builds. The way we are made to wonder whether he is actually insane or not throughout is incredible. It's aLL like a PUZZLE that pulls together piece by piece. THERE ARE NO WASTED SCENES or pieces that are not clues towards putting together the story. It's an absolute amazingly scripted mystery with a profound realization that's only completely revealed at the very end. It's both a sad but satisfying finale because Cole does succeed plus we were already notified of his impending death. NARRATIVELY & VISUALLY it's probably the GREATEST TIME TRAVELING SCI-FI film ever made!
Thanks guy's, another great review
This is nothing about this review but thanks for doing wot you do guys , literally kept me going through lockdowns last year , much respect to you both
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Fantastic review for an outstanding film. Could talk for days about it, too, but you two nailed it. Keep it up!
Great review, love this film. I always think of Unlawful Entry when Madelaine Stowe is mentioned, love that film too.
Omg, just found out that Ray Liotta has died. Totally gonna re-watch Uawful Entry now.
Terry Gilliam is the big Guru :)
17:51 Anyone who's seen Moonlighting know of Bruce Willis'acting range. Shame that we only got to see him in action films and his comedies, etc didn't work out.
I enjoyed Death Becomes Her but the Whole Nine Yards but is just the jaded Bruce Willis acting in a comedy.
honestly I've always seen the ending as a bad ending, as in the lady is on the plane to ensure the virus gets spread so society will collapse and she (and the other scientists) will be on top of what remains. in other words, she's there to ensure her own position at the top of the post-virus society. love your reviews!
Came here to say this. Hard not to see, especially these days.
I forgot I clicked Like on this already when it was "Unavailable in your country".
Cheers, fellas! I'm gonna enjoy this. :)
The Riddler as the Head Psychiatrist also!!!
4:18. Nailed it.
I saw this at the Odeon in Notts. Even with the boys explaining it, I'm still none the wiser 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this movie.
lt's funny but ever since l saw the movie for the first time l thought the old lady had come back from the future for the virus sample, so to me it was not ambiguous but bittersweet given that Bruce Willis character had to pay the ultimate sacrifice in order for the future to possibly have a chance.
The adult Bruce Willis from the fucked up future, yes. The child Bruce Willis can still be saved by altering the timeline to prevent the virus from being released in the first place, from then on we don't know that kids future any longer.
Terry Gilliam is a flippin' genius
This was one of my favourite movies at one time and Terry Gilliam was also one of my favourite directors. Fisher King was a favourite movie of many of my friends. Many others had Fear and loathing as favourite. But Brazil is my absolute favourite of his, I think I have seen that too many times to be healthy almost, it is like a scarier more plausible and twisted 1984. The Lost in La Mancha documentary is also just absolutely amazing. I also heard the tv show 12 monkeys was good, but have not seen it.
The TV show is definitely worth checking out. It gets better as it goes on, i.e. the first season is fairly grim but after that the show develops a sense of humor.
Thank you for reviewing a favorite of mine.
One of my favourite films of all time.
OH HELL YES 😊! I approve SO FAST! I can’t wait to see what you two have to say about this!!!!
Can you guys look into covering movies in the kaiju genre like Godzilla, King Kong, or Pacific Rim?
Aw, I got my days mixed up! Better late than never! Cool... 12 Monkeys! Have a good one, Shelfers! 👊 👊 👊
this movie definitely has the best time travel is it real is it not plot. They made damned sure to parallel scenes in each timeline. Also pretty sure every phone number they call was bugged or wiretapped in the 90's that's why they have recordings in the far future
Hey it's back!
I would recommend the TV show. Its a fun binge and they do their own thing. It also has one of the best series finales of all time!
That show was better than it had a right to be. An overlooked classic.
Good old 12 Monkeys. Cracking film.
Is this a re-upload? What's with the lack of views and comments?
Was uploaded last week and then removed for copyright reasons, video went back up today but YT hasn't sent any notifications it seems
@@OffTheShelfReviews ah that makes sense
@@OffTheShelfReviews No didn't get any notification.
Have you guy's ever reviewed Se7en?
Here you go ua-cam.com/video/yCbLJ9J9tFg/v-deo.html
I love you guys' reviews. I love Zodiac and your review was great. I would love if you guys would review Disturbia.
I'm ashamed to say, that never found the movie that great. Maybe it's because didn't watch it at release date, but saw the ending coming almost immediately and the rest felt somewhat derivative, even though theoretically, it should had been my jam.
Tried to watch it again, and felt asleep 😂. The cinematography is great, and I do love Time Bandits and other of Gillian's films. The overall story wasn't just that unique, by the time I saw it.
did this review time travel from a week ago cos it didn't pop up in my subscriptions........wait a minute is this real ?....am i real....is that a hamster in a wheel ARRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
You should do ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK/L.A.
Alotta Passion
Saw this film once and stopped after the asylum scenes, thank God I didn't continue as I'm lost still
Are you sure.... living in his head might actually kill you from his ideas alone
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the TV series was better
The tv series was a gender swap piece of crap.
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