@@KumoBear12 I was typing as I watched (Edit) You did NOT acknowledge this in the video, I thought you did but Upon rewatching that part I realized you just said "This happens in real life too" Which is not "Acknoledgement" of his writing rather just calling it a realistic possibility. My mistake was thinking I made a mistake.
@@The_UltimateL1feform No, he was literally talking about fights, bcs moments there was a lot, like Nami discouvering how to go deep in the sea to go to Fishman Island and going upwards after, Robin desire to become stronger to protect her friends in Wano and crying for Saul in Egghead and doesnt even let me start about Jinbe and Sanji in Whole Cake
@@The_UltimateL1feform The guy in the video explains how nami standing up to the strongest enemy in the arc (enel) was a big character moment. Brook literally did the same thing in whole cake. He stood up to big mom when he was caught by her AND had the balls to step in that mirror. You can't tell me none of those moments were IMPORTANT character moments.
@@skyIines. if you actually watched the video his arguments was also how they kept repeating those moments in timeskip it doesn’t feel as impactful as it does anymore and the brook and big mom shit wasn’t a character moment it was just a fight with some stupid comedy
One piece is mostly plot-driven and focuses around how the strawhats affect the world around them, rather than how the world changes them as a character. The thing with post time-skip is that there are simply too many characters that it makes it difficult to make everyone feel relevant. Also when the plot moves forward, especially in a shounen, characters do need some sort of progression to stay relevant. The problem is not that the strawhats don't change on a fundamental level (like some people critique one piece for), but simply that characters don't stay relevant. This wouldn't be as much as a problem if the arcs focused more on the strawhats themselves, but each island tends to have their own characters that come with it and in cases like Dressrosa and Wano, there isn't a good balance between the newer characters and the strawhats.
Bro DID YOU EVEN WATCH ONE PIECE??? There is no way bro said my goat Brook didn't do anything in WCI. He literally fought big mom and clutched poneglyph prints you cant be serious 😭 him revealing himself infornt of big mom by tearing off his mask after breaking the photo is one of the coldest moments in the series And don't even say it was purely action. "Death is never a part of the plan" Is a great extension to his moral code since thriller bark which was "Death is never an apology". Honestly WCI is the arc I like most because of character development u tripping with this take fr fr. (also can't forget about jinber 🐐)
Those aren't character moments though they're cool but anyone could have done that and it would have been cool That's not really a moment of personal growth or an interesting aspect of his character It's just a cool thing that he did
@@bradyharpe6051 Not many people wouldev stood up to big mom like he did The showcase of bravery and resolve, as well as the unwillingness to sacrifice is a expression of his character. Also Literally no one else could've clutched the poneglifs like he did, like remember big mom had a full body check up on brook, it's only because brook is brook that he is able to hide the pone glifs in his skull, giving him specific importance and not something "anyone can do". And his speech about death is a great extension of moral code, very symbolic to him, an undead skeleton living just to fulfil a promise.
10:03 Brook did nothing??? 😮That man was the MVP of Whole Cake Island. I feel like he got some development in terms coming into his own as fighter and Senior Straw Hat officer
@@O.Reagano neither kaido, nor big mom, nor york (lmao) or saturn are anywhere as good as crocodile or arlong. He is still kinda wrong tho bcoz doffy is the best arc villain in the series
@@aaroncrawford3556 pre ts he didn't have even that lol Franky Shogun is cooler than anything Franky has done before that but then again fights aren't what makes strawhats likeable or great besides the monster trio mayb
I think the part about the post-timeskip that angered me the most was Franky getting no moments in EGGHEAD! He literally spent 2 years in Vegapunk's birth place, his whole thing is being a cyborg and a genius at engineering in general, and he gets basically nothing the whole arc aside from one panel where he is like "WOW VEGAPUNK I AM A BIG FAN OF YOUR WORK!"
@@wwe12153I hope your joking. People understand him, but his backstory was short, lazy, and his personality is extremely boring. Kaido felt as boring as Don Krieg or Hody Jones. I've watched every genre of anime for 25 years, and Kaido doesn't even make the top 200 in terms of memorable.
@@9751matt only few people understand him bro. Which makes sense because he is one of the most complicated antagonists ever. Boring you say? His Paradox of hope and despair is unmatched. One of the most interesting concepts in fiction. With perfect execution. Maybe you are slow.
I love Big Mom and Kaido. They, and other characters, obtain their status in somewhat realistic ways. They are very strong, but a big chunk of their power comes from networking and reputation. I think they are perfect for the direction the story is going with talking about a new generation. In the current state of the world, even Buggy was able to fail upward based on who he knew and being in the right place at the right time. As far as Big Mom and Kaido go, they also had a comfy thing going. Both they and Doflamingo had safe haven home bases, built up reputation and armies, government insiders. They had a good, reliable network in gun and smile trading, money flowing in constantly. Caesar safely tucked away to do experiments to generate even more income. None of them had to actually fight for a long time and coasted by on reputations of brutality. They all started channeling their energy into side projects and family drama and were truly just local warlords living in palaces while doing twisted things to their people. The grunts were the only ones in any real danger during day to day business. So their inner circles were all pretty comfortable too. The worst generation is shaking up these power structures that have been established for decades. I like these arcs and characters. I think the story is doing exactly what it needs to. But I do give props for how you presented your opinions. Very to the point.
Pretty valid take. Post time skip has less of a focus on the straw hats as a whole. They are our protagonists, I can't blame you for wanting more. But imo, most of them already completed their emotional arc of the series. Only one who we truly didn't get any for is jinbe, the only strawhat who officially joined post timeskip. And he's basically the most emotionally secure one on the crew, i dont think there's much to explore. People praise one piece to the high heavens for its story and world building. But I don't think any of it would matter without the characters. Water 7 is still my favourite shonen arc for what it did with Ussop. And every strawhat had a similar stretch of chapters pre timeskip. The only strawhat moments which truly stuck with me like the pre time skip were franky in dressrosa and sanji in WCI. But imo, one piece is still one piece. Its still a character focused series, just different characters now. Fishman island is a fine arc, i don't mind it. My least favourite one piece arcs being before and after the summit war seems pretty deliberate anyway. Punk hazzard is a good setup arc and the series finally returned to its roots in dressrora. Everything with doflamingo, riku, rebecca, mr pink, law is amazingly done. While the pacing was rough and there were too many characters, the few in focus were remarkably written. Just as well as the pre timeskip strawhats. Imo oda set himself up for slight failure by creating such a vaste world. It's true that there are way too many characters, but without them it will hurt the immersion. One thing i absolutely hate about stories with the stakes being the world ending or something, is that it only focuses on a few characters. A few nobodies that for some reason decide the fate of the world. It completely breaks immersion. Only series which managed to pull this off is imo Avatar and Gurren Laggan. The latter just made the stakes absurdly high it just came full circle 😭 Oda might've realised this, and even if he didn't I'm glad he makes up a lot of characters for each arc. It makes the stakes feel more believable, that it rightfully involves thousands in each island, and what the crew achieves in each island holds more weight. Continuing with the characters, Zou had some great moments with the mink leaders (forgor names). WCI was finally another straw hat focused arc and oda delivered. Sanji, pudding, katakuri and big mom were done amazingly. It's true that there wanst much of an ideologically conflict, i think she carried it on her own. The world gave her the worst and she wanted to make it better. But she was so twisted from childhood, that her perfect world is nothing more than a parody of equality. It was amazingly done, one of the best op villains imo. The comes my third favourite stretch of chapters in the series, the oden flashback. While i think wano as a whole was a let down, what oda did here more than makes up for it. It did so much for the lore an gave us one of the best one piece back stories. Oden is the chad character done to perfection. Momo became a worthy son of his near the end of the arc and yamato more than deserved to carry out his legacy. And now the latest arc had my second favourite stretch of chapters in the series, the Kuma flashback. The suffering he went through but his willingness to keep going honestly pushed me out of a pretty bad place. Even after "death" his will lives strong in him. The most strong willed character thus far, and definitely best dad. Vegapunk was a second favourite. How his greed for more knowledge led to his downfall was explored well. Aside from the main focused characters, most other side characters also had development post ts. Buggy's friendship with shanks, Kizaru and Aokiji's justice, the grand fleet ect. While I missed Oda's focus on the crew I think he more than made up for it by exploring the rest of the world. What makes pre timeskip better is each arc being more cohesive. But with the world he created, i dont think oda has any other choice but to cram stuff into each arc. That also effects the panelling sadly. These are personally my only complaints.
Wonderful response dude the focus is the world now and we’ve been introduced to the strawhats and we get to see how they truly affect the world thru the experiences we have thru diff characters lowkey this vid was a bit of a bummer had some good points but this comment flipped it thanks for taking the time to type this
Yeah, it's controversial but the whole point of crews like the Straw Hats is they're largely the people they're meant to be and most of their arc has already occurred. In smaller casts, you expect them to become completely different people.
Bro heavy On "I turn it page and sigh" it genuinely a pain to read the manga sometimes they will reveal some major in universe lore and I won't even realize because I got confused in the order I'm supposed to read it in
one of my main problems was the humour. The humour pre TS was so good especially when zoro was involved. Think back to skypiea AAAH, getting lost in sabaody, scaring everyone when they were descending from skypiea, hitting that cool ass pose in little garden. Now zoro just grunts and occasionally gets lost for gags. Chopper used to be funny too. Now I hate chopper's voice in the anime cuz it is just way too annoying after hearing "don't praise me dumbass" for the millionth time without any other joke being there. Let's not even get started on Usopp being the funniest character pre TS. But post TS i can't remember a single Usopp joke at all other than him being scared ig.
This is true because the gags were still somewhat new and fresh at that point. But for some reason oda just keeps going with the same gags, so they get kinda old. He still manages to impress me with how he’s able to tell the same jokes in different and new ways tho
@@KumoBear12 it's not just gags that were there pre-TS. Oda had unique jokes too. He did use gags but he added full on unique jokes on top of that. Like Usopp and Luffy bowing to that bear in Drum Island. Sanji and Nami being scared of bugs in Jaya. Bananagator from Alabasta. Now it just is either character gags (brook panties, sanji pervert, zoro lost, nami money) or what feels like idea of jokes. I genuinely can't think of a single moment that made me burst out laughing in post TS. Idk maybe he felt the series should get a bit serious so he dropped all the jokes and kept only the gags to keep it going.
@@dfactoropbr tbh i've never found myself laughing at any of the jokes in One Piece, I prefer the more serious tone it's taken, and i'm fine with most of the gags besides Sanji's, that stuff is just weird and annoying.
ok let's make this clear, character development is a good thing, BUT... u don't need it, characters DON'T have to change who they are, u can simply like them for their personality, if we apply this logic than straw hats really don't need more character development, they already had it, they should just be themselves like... it would be cool if zoro had a big arc like sanji had in WCI but... people love zoro for who he is and not for his past, zoro is a strong badass who occasionally says badass lines, and people love it
@@michalvrabec454 That's not necessary but it always depends on the type of characters you wanna focus that aspect on, like, it's really different to talk about a character of a 1:30 hour movie, even a protagonist from a short series to not need any kind of development, than all of the protagonists of a HECKIN MORE THAN 1000 CHAPTER SERIES where they're still all very young people (with maybe the exception of Jinbe) and it's crazy to think that they wouldn't change at all while in the huge adventure and obstacles they get through.
@@giornogiostar3214The thing is they do change. We’ve seen that throughout the entire story of Post Timeskip. Sanji develops and realizes that he has a family that accepts him for who he is during WCI. Robin gets stronger and is willing to become the monster the world views her as in order to protect her family. Jimbei in general over the course of Pre and post TS has learned to further trust Luffy and even swear allegiance to him after realizing the type of person he is. Then Luffy himself, who has seen the most development out of all of them. Post Timeskip is supposed to be a test for his newly strengthened resolve to become Pirate King and to protect his crew. All the other Straw Hats reveal how far they’ve come compared to Pre TS. Even if it doesn’t seem like much on the surface.
@@Comic.215 The thing is that... That isn't even true at all, there haven't even been moments of introspection of each character you mention for those extremely minor changes by the exception of maybe Sanji, even if there were, those are such minor and basic details that it isn't the clever writing you probably think it is.
End of pre timeskip straw hats were the same amount as all of post timeskip yet each straw hat were doing something memorable in water 7/ thrillerbark/ and sabaody but in post timeskip it’s truly a tragedy
Just found your channel and this is the second vudeo that pops out. I read OP from 2003 to 2019. I just couldn't do it anymore, all of your criticisms got to a boiling point for me and I stopped caring just like Oda seems to.
I agree with this video completely, it just feels like everyone is hardwired to say their "usual lines" or act like their main "character traits" ex: Sanji loves women, Nami loves money, etc. I made a video about this too.
2:01 She actually did do something. In Wano she fought Ulti and she was getting forced to say Kaido will become king of the pirates but instead she kept saying Luffy will become king of the pirates over and over again with Ulti smashing her hard head into Nami’s head. So she did a lot of things at Wano. Then at Whole Cake she was Standing On Business when she confronted Sanji for fighting Luffy.
Im pretty indefferent on the subject but i find your video well made and points thought out. The amount of glaze for one piece in the comments is incredible.
It's fair that you prefer pre-timeskip over post, but you're really underselling the post-timeskips story for what it is. You go on to say multiple times that characters have done "nothing" and then proceed to explain something very important that they do (ex. Brook standing up to Big Mom and stealing the road poneglyphs). I get that there's less big on screen moments for each straw hat but they all still have their own roles to fulfill, Dressrosa isn't an exception to how post-timeskip got worse, it never did. The focus has just shifted to a broader view of the world around the straw hats, and while that does mean less screen time for their moments, that doesn't mean they get "nothing" at all. It's fine that you prefer a smaller cast with more frequent moments but I don't think that equates to worse quality, each arc is plenty great on its own, they all have amazing moments throughout the story and build upon each other to reveal information to both us the readers, and the characters themselves. Hell, we even got one of the most heart-wrenching backstories of the series in Egghead. TL;DR: One Pieces story didn't get worse after the timeskip, it just shifted its focus and while that may not be as interesting to some, many many many people love it just as much.
I speak in a kinda over exaggerated way, so "nothing" doesn’t literally mean nothing. It means "nothing compared to pre timeskip". Of course I’m aware of the different direction of the pts, but like I said in the video, the straw hats getting less to do wouldn’t have been as bad if the other problems I had weren’t there
I agree with this video. After post time skip, all the Strawhats outside of Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro, don't get to do anything. Oda literally admitted in a SBS that the other Strawhats are progressing towards their dreams, but only off screen. He also admitted to not taking the story as seriously anymore and wanting to go for more a disney like ending, maybe because of burnout? I think the issue is that Oda isn't given enough time to plan out his story anymore. Wano is one of the worst arcs because of how many plot lines Oda dropped so he can rush the ending of the arc. If Oda was given weeks or months breaks to plan out the story, I think post time skip would have the potential to be one of the best manga sagas of all time. I find it cringe how One Piece fans will simply just say "you didin't even watch the show" when these criticisms can only be made if you actually watched/read the series in it's entirety. It's okay to criticize One Piece, criticizing One Piece is not hating one One Piece. One Piece is not flawless, post-time skip proves how flawed the story is.
I agree with the wano plot lines take, but I think after egghead its safe to say oda is back to handling multiple plotlines as well as humanly possible (makes sense cause he is taking a lot more breaks now lol) Wano is the only arc that has that problem tho, it was too big even for one piece, Im gonna assume "did you even watch the show" is directed at one of my other comments lol, have you ever heard of the term called "hyperbole"?
Just started watching your video. Honestly speaking I think the peak of the strawhats as a crew was Enies Lobby, when Franky and Robin just joined up. I remember watching the One piece Strong world movie and thinking how cool pre timeskip Franky was. I feel like the core crew could have stayed being 8 and instead Oda could have told the story of Brook similar to Jinbe. You explore parts of Brook's story in an arc, for whatever reason he can't immediately join the crew but is an honorary member but you find arcs where you can continue telling Brooks story until he can join the crew somewhat fully fleshed out. No hate to brook but Oda hasn't done him any favours having him be on the crew and not doing much with him. If you have only about 8 core crew members for most of pre timeskip until the final war, they you might and I say might have more opportunities for good character work. I mean Oda did do it once before
I haven't watched the video yet, but it's probably going to be about the lack of focus on the Straw Hats in the post timeskip. Which imo is fine, they had their arcs done in the first half of One Piece. The second half should be focused more on wrapping up the story, and the endgame will have all the Straw Hats fulfulling their dreams, so they will get their focus again.
Exactly. They've beaten their, for the most part, traumas. There is no need to have them fall down again. The straw hats are already the Phoenix that have risen from the ashes.
@@phillemon7664 Franky stuff makes it exaggerated luffy has scar which symbolise the whole war zoro looks cooler wit scar usopp is more jacked there is half good half bad
@@waffleenjoyer-re3pg what I didn't know brook grew more bones in post ts lol and robin didn't have any change besides her boobs growing bigger which is more exaggerated in anime
Kaido doesn’t just want to die. He wants to leave a legacy. So fighting aimless battles won’t get him anywhere, after all. He is searching for purpose. And he has another dream, which is saving the world. How can fighting random opponents be satisfying? Kaido is one of the most well-written fictional antagonists.
Lol , no. There is 0 complexity. You don't save the world if you do what Kaido did to it. Kaido is lerfectly aware of what he's doing and is completely fine with it. Man was born evil and stayed evil. You'll probably deny it but the evidence is all up there. Only thing i hated about Kaido was the way Oda handled him.He deserved a much better defeat than what he got.And the amount of Plot Armor Luffy had in that duel is so insufferable that Oda went even beyond and changed his Devil Fruit to the "Plot Plot no Mi".
@@lorddarkrai5753 lmaooooo. Kaido is born evil ? If kaido is born evil then luffy is born evil. They are mirror reflections of each other. You just proved that he is complex, because you don’t understand him lol. Kaido’s ways are definitely flawed. Because of his upbringing and because he is a human. That’s the whole point. He grew up on battlefield so his understanding of life is different. He measures people’s worth differently. Kaido had one of the best antagonist conclusions in fiction. One of the best portrayals of ideological defeats. He didn’t lose because of the punch, he lost because of Luffy’s answer. An answer for a question he asked for decades.
@@wwe12153kaido was set up to be much more complex, a good backstory could’ve explained alot but we got litterally the worst backstory in the series, kuina vs down d. Stairs was better
@@Nothisndhdudjdjdj kaido is one of the most complex fictional antagonists. It doesn’t get higher than that. His flashback is perfect for his character. He is supposed to be difficult to understand. So he needed a short flashback.
@@wwe12153 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand One Piece. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of kanji/hiragana and Japanese Numerology Puns most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Kaido’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Kaido truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in kaido's existential laugh "WORORORORO," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Echiro Oda's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂 And yes, by the way, i DO have a Chinese style kaido dragon back tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎
There's a kernel of truth in all your criticisms... but the issue is the extreme exaggeration and generalizations you're making to support your argument. You conveniently dismiss all the examples that don't suit the agenda you're pushing.
I’m 50/50 with your video so far ( 10:56 ), but it mostly may just be phrasing as most of the video still hasn’t played. That said, I don’t actually think some of the straw hats need character development (Jinbe, Brook, and Franky mostly), however, I think what most people want is just more characterization. Not changing or developing their character, but getting them time to shine again-which is partly what makes adventure stories so fun, and with how soda writes his characters especially.. distinguishes One Piece from everything else that much more.
@@DirtymutiehaterBro said Usopp's new design isn't as good as the original. Excuse me, what!? Best design for the New World *100%* goes to Usopp. I love that Oda seriously buffed him up and changed up the ugly brown overalls that's been with him since Syrup Village. It's not to say he didn't change up his outfits in other arcs like Drum Island, Alabasta, Enies Lobby (praise Sogeking), Thriller Bark, and Sabaody, but aside from those, Usopp just wore a variation of those bland overalls with something like a shirt underneath it (Skypiea and Post-Enies Lobby). Even with arcs like Enies Lobby or Thriller Bark, Usopp *STILL* has his brown overalls and is just wearing a variation that has something slapped onto it for the arc, but I can make an exception for our savior, Sogeking. That, and I find his Pop Greens to be a much more interesting form of ammunition than his Sunflower Star, rocks, eggs, and lead shots. He really made the effort to push himself and said that when he traveled to the more dangerous parts of the Boin Archipelago, he found better and stronger Pop Greens to use as ammo. I still love the Pine Cone Grenades and Fireworks Flowers. Think about it: Kuma sent Usopp to an island full of highly combustible seeds and plants that wanted to eat him and expected him to come back alive. Given the results, that's crazy. The only thing I do agree with is the pacing, even in the anime. The escape from Whole Cake Chateau in the anime dragged on longer than we needed it to. It's true, the characters don't get a lot of focus as much as they used to, like when the crew has to split up into groups, and I definitely felt that during Whole Cake Island. As much as I love characters like Nami, Chopper, Sanji, and *ESPECIALLY* Brook in that arc, I already missed the rest of the crew and was ready to join them again in Wano because the Sanji Retrieval Team was already an eyesore for me. So, imagine how giddy I was when I finally saw Zoro just strolling through one of the markets in Wano? It had been far too long and I couldn't have been happier to see everyone else. That, and I was sick of those Germa 66 bigots (except for Reiju). I only wish Sanji had given them, especially Judge, a good beating. He didn't get hurt enough for my liking, and while I understand Sanji's character arc in WCI boils down to feeding Big Mom because he's a chef first and foremost, I still wish he got to do a bit more kicking. I just wanted Sanji to give Judge and his brothers a few more kicks to their brains (if they even had any 😒). He's also right about Usopp not getting much time to shine. The most he's done up to this point was shoot down Sugar by unlocking Observation Haki in Dressrosa and keep Page One at bay during Wano, but it was ultimately Big Mom who took him out. Here's to hoping Elbaf will treat him better. Also, what's this about Nami's Climatact? Of course it's become much more simple to use. It's been upgraded with Weatheria technology, so of course she would find a way to fight much easier, i.e. Weather Eggs and chains of thunder clouds. Even Usopp didn't get rid of his Dials from Skypiea. They've been incorporated into his slingshot, so it's not like they've been forgotten about. At least, that's how I see all this.
good video. I think a big problem now is that oda doesn't listen to editors anymore, so there is no one to stop him from introducing to much shit at once.
I think it's a combination of so many sub-plots, but also I don't think Oda really knows where his going or what he wants to do with these many sub-plots he started. Before, Oda was very careful to leave things vague and theory-piecers can have a ball filling our heads with what this or that eye-twitch means. But as the story winds down we're not seeing much more meaning to anything and the explanations we do get aren't very satisfactory. Worse...I'm not sure they really fit together all that well. Egghead was supposed to be the place where I was really hoping to find answers because who better than the SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD, connected to the strongest faction of the world and the very height of power? All we got was some Bonney-simp. THAT guy is the worse let down in One Piece to me. We'll see...
Exactly, it's the Island Of The Future, we shove at least given Franky a major sub plot I. This arc, Vegapunk Is his hero and his Inspiration, yet they barely interact with each other, it's sad
I think there has definitely been more lore and world building, but I think the world building suffers sometimes because the new characters in those worlds aren’t always that good like I said in the video. Skypiea had incredible world building while not having that many characters
It doesn’t have more lore jusy think about what your saying😭 pre time skip was the set up to lost of the lore your thinking you’re just getting now be if you understand sub text a lot of the shit revealed later on was already heavily hinted at.
I think Kaido is a little bit more nuanced than that, but not by much. He is depressed and wants to die, but essentially he just doesn't want to do anything because he is dead inside I think, they could have at least made him wonder around randomly and give him some personal moments where he struggles with his existence, trying to make sense of his life and realizing that he only has strength and that's why he wants to cause a massive wars, or make his past even more traumatic (perhaps making him a chained gladiator forced to fight for years to stay alive for the amusement of others, just a tought but I think that would be a bit more interesting than what we got). Yeah, kind of wasted potential for a character that could have been so much more, and someone many people would have been able to relate with at least on the depression part
Look i think i know what do you mean. For me, it's actually possible to sum up in a single reason: lack of story focus. As you said, theres too much characters and themes. But i have hope with one piece's final part. It'very common stories get more unfocused in the mid part to return to focus in the last quarter. Actually, egghead felt veeery better in that regard. Good video!
I honestly prefer One Piece after the time skip, I was younger and much more impatient so on my first watch through of one piece I skipped A LOT of the pre timeskip stuff because I was so deathly bored, now as I grew older it grew on me but I wouldnt have bothered watching if not for the timeskip
@@breakhammer87 To this day I still haven't actually watched Skypia, I literally can't get through it, I've tried, I really have but I can't its so boring to me, I only know what happened because I've read summaries of what happened
Thriller Bark is one of my favorite arcs exactly because of how good the crew interactions were in that. That's a big part of what I enjoyed in the series.
It got better after the timeskip Bigger World More Haki powers combined with Devil fruits Plot is Going crazy with the threads oda set up Just because a Character is finished developing doesn't mean they should be written out You undervalued pudding too much especially with her place now Hordy have no reason is kind of the point and we're not meant to see him change The Adventure has more focus and direction since they have the rubbings
While there are a lot of things I like about the Time Skip, I also feel like there are things from the pre-Time Skip that has been lost. It just feels different from the first half.
I feel like nothing is really being said in a lot of this video. I mostly agree with the strawhats part (minus brook being useless in WCI), but a lot of the time I just feel like you’re saying “this is something that happened post timeskip. Remember this thing from pre timeskip? That was much better”. I think it’s also worth mentioning the non-strawhat characters that got way better post-timeskip. Law, Kuma, Roger, Doflamingo, Aokiji, and Koby all have much more meaningful story arcs post timeskip. The post timeskip era also has inarguably some of the best flashbacks in the series. If someone were to say their top 3 flashbacks were all from post timeskip, I wouldn’t agree, but I would not bat an eye. A lot of the character examples in this video also feel cherrypicked. Let’s remember that pre timeskip had Moria, the four priests, Johnny and Yosaku, and Absalom. Post timeskip has Odin, Vegapunk, Bartolomeo, Pedro, Morgans… there’s lots of good and lots of mid on both ends. Also I gotta say, criticizing the Akazaya 9 for “all being introduced at once” (they weren’t) while ALSO criticizing Kinémon for being around too long… which one is it? Kinda contradictory. Also, a group of 9 new characters all being introduced at once… that describes the Supernovas from Saboady better then the Akazaya 9, lol. Idk maybe I’m just riding the high of Egghead wrapping up and being my favorite arc in all of One Piece but this video is a massive miss for me.
I appreciate the critisism! Although I do disagree with a lot of it. Yes I bring up a lot of things from the pre time skip that was better, because that\s the point of the video. But whenever I brought those things up, I feel like I gave reasons for it, like choppers monster point, usopp and nami's fighting style, nami's fight with ulti, the crew splitting up. There is like one time I remember of the top of my head when I talk about franky's strong right, but even then I had just finished explaining why I didn't like him getting a bunch more powerups. So I don't really know what you mean in that regard. I am cherrypicking a little bit, but that's because my point is that the timeskip is worse, not bad. I do bring up the fact that a lot of villains pre time skip also aren't that great, because at no point am I saying pre time skip it's perfect, only better, not even by a huge amount. Also Johnny and Yosaku were goated lol. And I don't think I ever said the akazaya nine got introduced all at once? If I did then please correct me. I said they were new, which I guess isn't technically true because two of them we had already met, so 7 new characters then I guess? And I don't think comparing them to the supernovas is fair at all. The supernovas were around for like a tenth of the length of wano, and the story never really had a focus on them in that arc. Not even law, he didn't get focused on until after the timeskip. They were not the sympatethic heroes of a 150 chapter long arc. I appreciate the critisism but I don't agree lol
I don’t think the subtlety of his character came trough in the story clearly enough, nor do I think it played a big part in the story. Also think there are some inconsistencies, I mentioned some in the video
@@KumoBear12 Fair opinion to have, I agree he should’ve been more straightforwardly put, especially cause One Piece isn’t shy to doing that with characters, but I think that it is still there and while it’s hard to find, I don’t know if that’s a negative to his character y’know. Like he’s just not as you put it with him being strongman caveman
Honestly I like old pre time skip better but they’re both very good it’s just new one a new form of good and style and animation they’re both so amazing tho and masterpiece in art
even know fishmen island ark is known to be bad its whole purpose was to show how the straw hats have change and IMPROVED showing all the new powers they have and also gives BROOK a time to shine whole cake island is not worse it give sanji the character normally 3rd or behind zoro a time to shine and brook carries all most the whole thing
No matter what you say bro. One piece fans are and will always gonna be blind even tho pretty much everything you said was proven facts 👍 stay safe. Amazing video, agree with you 99%
Bro, what are you talking about? Literally everyone says that One Piece is peak right now. Yes, there were some slower parts after the time jump, but you cannot generalise that One Piece got "worse" after the time skip. Overall, it got even better with more hype moments. And of course the main characters have to be more in focus than the others as the story progresses.
I have red until Punk Hazard so I dont have the whole insite. But I think part of the problem is your expectations. Since the crew gets bigger and bigger, you cant have all of them play a big role in every arc or maybe in any arc, some of them must be secondary figures. I agree that new characters are too menny and it becomes too messy. For me I lost a little interest in One Piece way back when Robin joined the crew in jaya, they become to menny and Robin joining the crew didn't seen believable until water seven. But when I think of it in another direction that the main characters are the east blue pirates, and must of all Luffy, then it make sense that all of the other doesn't get that much screen time. I don't know if Oda managed to do that in a proper way in later arcs, but I think you cant expect every strawhat to get their moment in every arc, the series is long as it is.
I both agree and disagree as Dressrosa and Whole Cake Island do a great job of fleshing and expanding upon the casts they have for their respective stories, its pretty hard to miss actually 😅. Wano however, I agree, outside The Monster Trio and kinda-sorta Robin, I feel like the remaining Straw Hats kinda got shafted, especially towards the climax as it felt like Oda very much poured that energy into fleshing out Oden and The Era of Roger not really focusing on the development on the rest of the cast.
I completely agree. And when I say these things I get so much hate, but honestly people are so blind, they cannot see the difference or they praise the post timeskip era more. One Piece was about many things and it now turned into a pure battle manga where the guy with flashier haki or flashier aura is the best and nothing else matters. I mean, come oon. Hopefully Elbaf fixes these. I liked that start so far.
Tbh I barely remember non luffy fights post timeskip. Like some are cool but in pre time skip most of them had impact and memorable moments that just dont haplen now
I agree with many of these points, but Egghead and the final saga restored my faith in the story. I feel that the focus has shifted to Luffy and the Strawhats changing the world, with most of their development occurring pre-timeskip, which is why we’re now focusing on newer characters. While I’m not invested in many of the post-timeskip characters, the pre-timeskip ones are becoming more relevant to the plot. As for Big Mom and Kaido, I don’t believe Oda is finished with their arcs; I think God Valley is holding back their full story.
Hey man I don’t know if you’re going to read this but I agree with some of your opinions there’s some other opinions I might disagree on but overall a good video and I can admit this one piece post timeskip didn’t start good until Dressrosa 💯
Literally my problem in post timeskip , Pretty strong points , id even like to point out how inconsistent the power scaling has gotten (i absolutely don't like to but ) ussop defeats sugar is the lamest possible way id think even at age 3 ,Luffy learned future sight -never actually used it , wasn't shown how kaido and bm were using it where they clearly should have , luffy learnt that we can coat and use conquerors haki just like armament haki and thats what is advanced conquerors haki - like talk about lazy writing The stories too are very much try to copy Alabasta - like mass manipulation by Bon clay's ability , doffy by framing the king with his power like come up with smtg new oda Whole cake island was the best post time skil arc for me tbh , I actually felt for some characters in that arc and it had some really good moments too While that said ,egghead exceeded all my expectations and went crazy id expect the same from elbaph , i really think oda didn't want most of the post timeskip arcs he just made them for popularity and run , maybe thats why he said the egghead is the beginning of ebd
To be honest I don't have any thoughts on the power scaling stuff. While I think the action is really good, it has never been one of the main aspects I like about one piece. I couldn't tell you what the different haki powers even work except for some of them or which names are which powers lol
@@KumoBear12 i also don't actually care about power scaling but we can't deny it's a narrative tool and inconsistencies (especially like the sugar's lame defeat) in it really downgrade a story
@@debatexdebate Yeah but I meant like, I know so little about the power scaling stuff that I haven't even noticed the inconsistentcies your talking about. Like I thought usopp defeating sugar was fine
I think you’re overlooking a lot of nuance with these takes, but I’ll just say this: After the time skip One Piece becomes about the story of the world rather than the Straw Hats, they just happen to be at the center of it all.
Bro goes HE HAS NO DEVELOPMENT. Bro what development is he supposed to have hes already lived two full luve lives already, has been a pirate captain, fought in his countries military, and is now sailing on an emperors crew. He knows exactly what hes about and just wants to help the ppl that rescued him from floating around in hellish loneliness and are gonna bring him back to laboon. Brook doesn’t need development other then new powers and doing hype shit, and mabye explanations of the underworld and his fruit or something
I AGREE I AGREE I AGREE !!!!!!!!! Damn it felt good to hear someone understand how I felt after the time skip. People will say it's nostalgia but it's really not. The designs my god chopper, ussop, franky... A waste. They were truly some of the coolest and most unique characters. Now they are so empty. so much less personality on their design and their characters. In terms of development, I admit I had never paid attention since your video which actually opened my eyes. For the Wano Arc (not Onigashima), dressrosa and wholecake are among my favorite arcs so I don't have much to say about that despite the development. I'm rewatching Thriller Bark and what a delight. Probably the most underestimated arc. The DA is fabulous. the humor is clearly at the top of one piece. The rhythm is awesome. The appearance of the new character Brook obviously. One of the best endings... I'll stop there. Great video
Kinda felt the same to be honest at the start up until Dressrosa, but then you gotta realize that the story started really evolving past just the crew and post the time skip, the focus shifted more on the overall world plot as it obviously became bigger. I mean at this point majority of the crew have been fleshed out anyway. Haha.
I know Im late and I didnt finish the video but put some respect on brook standing up to big mom like lets be real, pretimeskip brook didnt get alot, and his ENTIRE character is gags from start to finish But when that man stood up to big mom and didnt give a FUCK, he was the most raw strawhat. Period.
I can only say that you are watching and reading One Piece in a very superficial way, and by the way, Blackbeard was not a Yonkou in Pre-Timeskip, he was still the new Shichibukai at Marine Ford, then he became Whitebeard’s “replacement”. And Big Mom and Kaido are not Mid; each of them has an explanation of their past and why they are like that (especially Big Mom being abandoned by her parents and manipulated by Mother Caramel and Streusen). I can say more about Big Mom, but I’m going to focus on Kaido because I think a lot of people don’t understand him and that’s why they see him as a flat character. He, a person of oni race, was forced to work as a soldier since he was a child, he was not really free, then he became, with Big Mom, part of The Rocks pirates, but he wanted to prove more to the world that he was the strongest, and not someone you can take advantage of. He lived in a poor country and the governments of his country used his strength for their convenience, they even wanted to sell him to the marines, so they could get to Reverie, obviously Kaido escaped. Later when the government captured him, they experimented on him to research his fruit. He never experienced freedom in his life and he realized that people with power were weaker than him, that’s why he has the idea that he needs to change those positions, that this time the strongest will be on top, not the common people. Knowing that King reinforces that thought because King wanted Kaido to become Joy Boy, then he has this contrast in his personality where he gets depressed and nostalgic, you can interpret this as his vulnerable side after experiencing all those bad things that he hides and keeps to himself. Also, Kin being a lunarian is important to the main story (the seraphim were created thanks to his genes). And I could also talk about each of the stwahats and other characters but it’s not worth it because you don’t analyze or interpret anything.
@@KumoBear12They do though, you just obviously can't read further into a story than what's shown and told to you directly on screen, like a kid in 3rd grade. Kaido's story and the way his character operates morally and thematically acts as a bridge between Luffy (and the current generation of pirates as a whole), and the old generation. He stands as one of the last greats of his age, and encapsulates the worst parts of it. By facing and defeating him in wano, the way Luffy and his crew view the world and are viewed by it becomes much more than just that of rookie pirates journeying across the Grandline. It becomes a story of political interests, serious moral implications, and makes you have to actually sit back and think about things before you fully understand them. Sure, it's not a whimsical and full of fun and funny character moments and gags 24/7, but the story is maturing and aging with its audience. Not saying none of your points are valid, but you seem to have watched OP in a very superficial way.
@@KumoBear12 Dude, I spent 10 minutes typing that earlier comment. I'm not spending another 20 breaking down all of post timeskip in a way that the narrative would make sense to a preschooler. Just stop being dumb and think about things for more than 2 seconds, it not really difficult man.
@@KumoBear12if you think this is all mid then I wonder what you think about Jjk? You probably think it’s the best thing to grace the earth don’t you?😂 it’s what I’d expect from Jjk fans tho honestly.
Shanks vs Kid is a prime example of bad writing. Sure, Oda never drew really good fights like other mangakas but he didn't waste characters like that either. It feels like he made the world too big and he can't handle so many characters anymore. I think he's better at foreshadowing things than anything else.
You think kid is dead? Bro is somewhere beached on wano and a giant took him in. Even tho dorry and broggy beat them, they weren’t around for the terror bigmom brought on elbaf. She is stated to be hated among all giants and their eternal enemy and kid is credited with taking her down. So the rest of the giants should view kid as a hero. Oda literally doesn’t kill character in his stories, he is a puss
The oroblem with the straw hats isnt that "theres too many of them" its that Oda isn't being creative when writing them anymore so they have been stuck as stale characters with the same gags thrown in in hopes that we'll laugh and accept the mediocrity
@@captmista1355 I don’t think that there being many straw hats is a problem in itself, I think it is a problem for Oda, I think he struggles to do exactly what you said for that reason
Tbh i love pre timeskip but i love post timeskip as well. The only thing that i hate was the nika reveal. It had no foreshadowing and came out of nowhere. Oda desperately tried to link it back to past references by calling it sun god even though the sun doesnt have anything to do with luffys abilities just so fan can chew on it and claim oda foreshadowed it. Luffy having the rubber fruit would be way better
Now it seems like oda is focusing more on that than the other crew members. Franky could've had important character writing in egghead but instead we got more nika lore. Elbaf is supposed to be usopps arc but idk anymore since nika was written to have a important significance in elbaf now.
The biggest and one of the only foreshadowing we had that hinted at Luffy's fruit was not truly a paramecia, is how luffy displayed properties of the fruit that would not be possible if he was truly a paramecia type, like Luffy changing the course of his attack against Katakuri. Some people use example's like law's fruit or Kuma's fruit also having a bunch of weird properties, but those fruits are more abstract, while rubber is a simple concept. As for Nika it should've been introduced earlier, but I think the way that Oda has implemented it and especially in egghead makes it a good inclusion.
Anyone who is being honest should recognize the massive flanderization that happens to the entire cast post time skip. One Piece was always at its best when it was a character focused narrative and not a plot focused narrative. Early One Piece and how its arcs were structured revolved around the characters with the plot being the backdrop for forging a change in their development. Whether it be Usopp, Nami, or Robin. It is why Sanji's arc works so well post timeskip. The expectation Oda set with the audience in the first half was it was a character focused story and quite frankly it is what he excels at the most in his writing. He fell into the trap of loving world building more than focusing on his already huge cast which would have greatly benefitted from the focus. Remember that all the straw hats had dreams they wanted to achieve... Are we even close to those being fulfilled?
I think they have cool moments. The problem is that powerups are too common these days. I want to see more team fight moments doing combos. Like if Nami will be supporting as producing mirage for sanji. Ussop holding enemy by his vines while chopper is fighting, by providing unlimited supply of plant based nunchucks, and variety of weapons, Franky providing mobility to Ussop while sniping. Things like these are cooler for me than power ups. Also, please bring back old scary monster point, old horn point, and dark-skinned robin.Dark Skinned Mama Robin is a waaaay cooler design than the white skinned one
Chopper feels like an issue, and it seems like Oda wants the second half of One Piece to focus more on worldbuilding than on Straw Hat moments. Since a lot of character development was already done in the pre-time skip, there isn’t much left to explore without saving some growth for the final saga. As a result, the post-time skip feels more plot-driven, putting characters into difficult situations where they either stick to their established traits or change-adding to the drama of the post-time skip maybe thats why its feel like repetitive I love most of the side characters in posttimeskip but Wano is the only arc where it felt like there were too many. Aside from Luffy’s parts, some elements didn’t feel organic-like Chopper’s cold virus subplot. I enjoyed Dressrosa, Whole Cake Island, and Zou more than most of pre-time skip arcs. I hope the final war will pay off all the worldbuilding and side characters Oda has developed over the years. final saga is really strong egghead is one of best arc Hot take: the pre-time skip is overrated. It has its own issues and slow parts-like Marineford. Without the events that follow, the war in that arc feels very childish wihtout post war part thats arc isnt even top3
After Gear 5 i can safely say i still care about a lot of things in One Piece but never for Luffy as a character. Kaido deserved a much better treatment than Oda.He wanted to make him si stupidly broken that the inly way ti defeat him is to go stupidly broken and be resurrected after death.LAME. And now in Egghead Oda went on a spree saying "Somebody will die wooooo somebody will die woooooooo" , actual stakes?HELL NO , Saturn died because his boss was fed with him hahahahahaha.I know what they'll say next.Vegapunk dead?Where is he dead exactly?All i see is Oda doing everything in his power not to show Stella dead. TimeSkip One Piece has been One Big D.Isappointment after Wano
I completely agree that Kaido was treated so badly, especially Tobiroppo who was simply flushed down the toilet. Nobody knows where they are or where they are staying and I hope they don't come to Yamato Cover Story. It's been over a hundred or even more chapters and Oda just can't mention them. If Ulti is the person in Chapter 1130 which steals the Sword of Yamato. Then you know where the quality goes. Why I think this she you could check in One Piece Treasure Cruise there is a Artwork of Ulti - Rowdy Girl Fascinated by Fireworks and in Chapter 1124 you can see how she runs. The same applies to Egghead Arc, should that not reveal the secrets and certain people such as Stussy. She was in Big Mom's Party she was portrayed as a mystery woman of unknown age. She seemed to know a lot more than others and suddenly she exposed herself to Lucci and Kaku to help Vegapunk, who still lost his life and she was spared. What kind of logic is that?.
(No trolling or rage baiting) In 2022 I force myself to watch the show (I drop the show at the big elephant EP 755), and I was enjoying it there were bad moments and good moments that made like it. But then I noticed the problem after the time skip, I thought I was tripping I was legit torturing myself to watch the time skip episodes and I had to use 2x speed and dub. And I thought I was the only one with this problem mainly the first and second. the third one just a little bit that being little Tony Tony and Franky. Am not caring much about the third problem because I made a mental note that this series is more of a cartoon looney toon type of logic design and attitude wise. I don't like Luffy unless he has chemistry with another character like Usopp, Nami, Zoro. If Luffy acts or speaks on his own is pretty boring because you already expect what he'll do or say I get that he's emotionally intelligent but that can get you so far. In a series what is as long as one piece I expected Luffy's understanding of freedom or his mentality but nope not really. I sadly don't like Zoro because he was designed to appeal the series aspect of shonen or seriousness of one piece in general I understand why he's serious after the loss of mihawk but there's more emotions then just that he acts one dimensional but he's not there's so much he's hiding it's the same problem with Luffy is like one character was separated into two and that's the protagonists. TL: DR I noticed the quality was declining I thought I was only me and the rest of the show felt like torture because of the bad pacing (The challenge was look as many episodes before the end of the year the main reason this was a challenge is because I already watch the other big 3 Bleach, Naruto and Dragon Ball except one piece) and I drop it at the elephant part episode 755. I can see why people like this show. It's just not for me. I got to see great arcs and even watched the Netflix adaptation and i liked it pretty goofy but had the same spirit as the OG. I don't hate the show I just dislike how it's written/operated. Thank you for reading and sorry if I made you mad this is my honest view of the show 7.4 score. If it makes you feel better look into my Anilist and find something you want to flame/roast me about i honestly don't mind: anilist.co/user/DrDI/
SO this can be pretty summed up by "i don't like it because i wanted something else". Which is fine but not an actual reason as to why post timeskip is bad in itself,you just happen to not vibe with it. Basically pre timsekip is used for exposition so that post timeskip can go a somewhat different way with its basis already built and not needing to remake it every time. The exposition made you understand why the Strawhats are Family, you already know it, we get a few moments here and there to see what's the same, what's changed but we don't "need" more. More is bonus. ANd I get wanting more, I'd love to have more but it's not needed and if Oda gave us more he'd probably get lost in it tbh.
Don’t agree that it can be summed up like that. I do not "want" anything from one piece. Oda is free to do whatever he wants, he could turn it into a story about fishing for all i care as long as it’s good. This video is simply me explaining why I don’t think the new direction worked as well for me
@KumoBear12 that's my point tho. If it didn't work for you it's because it didn't meet what you wanted out of it. Whether you knew what you wanted out of it before it happens or not is a different story. (basically there can't be disappointment without expectations)
@@celia1888 But I don’t want anything specific out of it. I’m fine with the direction Oda chose to go with for the post time skip, it’s the execution of those ideas or directions that I don’t like
kaido isn't that mid tho , he is underwhelming but not mid , you can go for alex's video for better interpretation of kaido , katakuri was good too pre time skip doesn't have even one antag on katakuri's level , now for side characters we got law , corazon too , they are really good kuma is good too , so i don't think post time skip is that bad but pre time skip has better plot
@Sanji_artic kaido has had enough of his time , he is like a 6.5(+)/10 character , i don't think there will be much jump in quality even aft3r flashbacks
That “diaper” is Choppers hat read the sbs for this extra info. But you did say you don’t like reading a lot of text so never mind. SBS: I am aware you put the information in the video but you added it in like Oda afterwards without properly addressing it so to quote you “it’s just weird”
@@KumoBear12So I was listening to the video and not watching it, so I went back to watch and then apologize but the shit was on screen for like a second. Edit it and address it verbally in the video, you did the same thing Oda did. You pulled an SBS didn’t address it in the video and put the info as text in the video later.
@@joy4themightydonutchainsaw620 Yeah because it's obvious that im just making a joke. If I had to pause everytime I make a joke to clarify, that wouldn't be very fun
Your last Point is spot on. One Piece just has to much text in the later parts. Also people are shitting on Kubo because bleachs Story structure is to introduce 20 characters at the beginning of an arc, but Oda is not much better in that regard
Hordy not having personal experience of hating humans IS LITERALLY THE POINT OF HIS CHARACTER
Yeah I acknowledged that in the video
@@KumoBear12 I was typing as I watched (Edit) You did NOT acknowledge this in the video, I thought you did but Upon rewatching that part I realized you just said "This happens in real life too" Which is not "Acknoledgement" of his writing rather just calling it a realistic possibility.
My mistake was thinking I made a mistake.
@@xandex69then don’t be so aggressive with your comments
@@ImBigPizza Im just typing as I watch bro
@xandex69 why don't you finish the video before you start making statements
I find a lot of these takes very dishonest. Brook is the single reason why they were able to complete their second mission on Whole Cake.
If you actually listened to the video properly he’s talking about character moments not fights
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No, he was literally talking about fights, bcs moments there was a lot, like Nami discouvering how to go deep in the sea to go to Fishman Island and going upwards after, Robin desire to become stronger to protect her friends in Wano and crying for Saul in Egghead and doesnt even let me start about Jinbe and Sanji in Whole Cake
@@SamuelSouza-di6nq and those are all key important character moments
@@The_UltimateL1feform The guy in the video explains how nami standing up to the strongest enemy in the arc (enel) was a big character moment. Brook literally did the same thing in whole cake. He stood up to big mom when he was caught by her AND had the balls to step in that mirror. You can't tell me none of those moments were IMPORTANT character moments.
@@skyIines. if you actually watched the video his arguments was also how they kept repeating those moments in timeskip it doesn’t feel as impactful as it does anymore and the brook and big mom shit wasn’t a character moment it was just a fight with some stupid comedy
remember when chopper wasnt just a mascot
One piece is mostly plot-driven and focuses around how the strawhats affect the world around them, rather than how the world changes them as a character. The thing with post time-skip is that there are simply too many characters that it makes it difficult to make everyone feel relevant. Also when the plot moves forward, especially in a shounen, characters do need some sort of progression to stay relevant. The problem is not that the strawhats don't change on a fundamental level (like some people critique one piece for), but simply that characters don't stay relevant. This wouldn't be as much as a problem if the arcs focused more on the strawhats themselves, but each island tends to have their own characters that come with it and in cases like Dressrosa and Wano, there isn't a good balance between the newer characters and the strawhats.
Bro DID YOU EVEN WATCH ONE PIECE???
There is no way bro said my goat Brook didn't do anything in WCI. He literally fought big mom and clutched poneglyph prints you cant be serious 😭 him revealing himself infornt of big mom by tearing off his mask after breaking the photo is one of the coldest moments in the series
And don't even say it was purely action. "Death is never a part of the plan" Is a great extension to his moral code since thriller bark which was "Death is never an apology". Honestly WCI is the arc I like most because of character development u tripping with this take fr fr. (also can't forget about jinber 🐐)
Those aren't character moments though they're cool but anyone could have done that and it would have been cool That's not really a moment of personal growth or an interesting aspect of his character It's just a cool thing that he did
Lets ratio the video with this comment fr fr
@@bradyharpe6051 Not many people wouldev stood up to big mom like he did The showcase of bravery and resolve, as well as the unwillingness to sacrifice is a expression of his character.
Also Literally no one else could've clutched the poneglifs like he did, like remember big mom had a full body check up on brook, it's only because brook is brook that he is able to hide the pone glifs in his skull, giving him specific importance and not something "anyone can do".
And his speech about death is a great extension of moral code, very symbolic to him, an undead skeleton living just to fulfil a promise.
@@bradyharpe6051not anyone can do that.. If they could, oda would have intended that to happen
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10:03 Brook did nothing??? 😮That man was the MVP of Whole Cake Island. I feel like he got some development in terms coming into his own as fighter and Senior Straw Hat officer
Fax
Fax but that wasn’t the point bruh. Bsides this one moment in WCI, what meaningfully has brook done post time skip
Fax, I felt like Brook, Robyn, and Frankie were the cerified old heads who handled business in the shadows for the strawhats.
Brook stood up to a Yonko??? Pretty much called Big mom stupid to her face
Still whole cake is not it so no point taken
Everything you said was accurate except that Brook did nothing in Whole Cake 😅 he was the MVP of that arc lol
Except for every villain post-timeskip isn’t as good as Crocodile or Arlong oh man that’s insane, Kaido, Big Mom, York, Saturn, whatttttt
@@O.Reagano I love york but aint no way u said she is a better villain than croc and arlong 😭also you forgot katakuri
@@O.Reagano neither kaido, nor big mom, nor york (lmao) or saturn are anywhere as good as crocodile or arlong. He is still kinda wrong tho bcoz doffy is the best arc villain in the series
He isn’t accurate in most he only got3 right
bro went like 0\1000
I want more franky😭, if he did more he’d probably be my fav straw hat
Franky vs senor pink?Franky badass moments in egghead?literally saved luffy from saturn
@@sarov7658 that was the only good fight that franky had and the fight against the triceratops was good but it wasn’t like franky vs Senior pink
@@aaroncrawford3556 pre ts he didn't have even that lol Franky Shogun is cooler than anything Franky has done before that but then again fights aren't what makes strawhats likeable or great besides the monster trio mayb
@@sarov7658That wasn't even a good fight. People only remember it because of Senor Pink's backstory.
@@kaossilator8545 you tripping lol sure the pacing was dogpoo but the fight was good
I think the part about the post-timeskip that angered me the most was Franky getting no moments in EGGHEAD! He literally spent 2 years in Vegapunk's birth place, his whole thing is being a cyborg and a genius at engineering in general, and he gets basically nothing the whole arc aside from one panel where he is like "WOW VEGAPUNK I AM A BIG FAN OF YOUR WORK!"
A lot of the one piece fanbase had mixed feelings about Kaido. One half thinks he’s boring and the other thinks he’s well written and very deep.
Yup, although I feel one piece fans generally have pretty varying opinions on everything in the story
You mean 5% understand him and 95% don’t understand him.
Which makes sense, he is very complex.
@@wwe12153 Yeah that’s what I meant
@@wwe12153I hope your joking.
People understand him, but his backstory was short, lazy, and his personality is extremely boring.
Kaido felt as boring as Don Krieg or Hody Jones.
I've watched every genre of anime for 25 years, and Kaido doesn't even make the top 200 in terms of memorable.
@@9751matt only few people understand him bro. Which makes sense because he is one of the most complicated antagonists ever.
Boring you say? His Paradox of hope and despair is unmatched. One of the most interesting concepts in fiction. With perfect execution. Maybe you are slow.
These comments make me think One Piece fans can't read honestly
I’ve interacted with one piece fans before. If this is the worst you’ve ever seen them consider yourself lucky
What?
???? Huh what are you blabbering about
@@Dirtymutiehater I can't write it any simpler, ask ChatGPT what I mean
@@marlom7882Can't be worst than fandoms like Sonic or MHA.
I love Big Mom and Kaido. They, and other characters, obtain their status in somewhat realistic ways. They are very strong, but a big chunk of their power comes from networking and reputation. I think they are perfect for the direction the story is going with talking about a new generation. In the current state of the world, even Buggy was able to fail upward based on who he knew and being in the right place at the right time.
As far as Big Mom and Kaido go, they also had a comfy thing going. Both they and Doflamingo had safe haven home bases, built up reputation and armies, government insiders. They had a good, reliable network in gun and smile trading, money flowing in constantly. Caesar safely tucked away to do experiments to generate even more income. None of them had to actually fight for a long time and coasted by on reputations of brutality. They all started channeling their energy into side projects and family drama and were truly just local warlords living in palaces while doing twisted things to their people. The grunts were the only ones in any real danger during day to day business. So their inner circles were all pretty comfortable too.
The worst generation is shaking up these power structures that have been established for decades. I like these arcs and characters. I think the story is doing exactly what it needs to. But I do give props for how you presented your opinions. Very to the point.
@@Hallucinagene I just feel like Kaido and Big mom were throw away vilains
Chopper still has his hat just under the new one oda said in a sbs
Yeah he acknowledged that
@@nvmartin He said that in the video but only for like a few frames for some reason
Need more Franky and Chopper character moments, I get a lot of the issues you brought up nice video bro
@@MarioBusters Agreed, thanks man!
@ keep up the good videos bro
they hated jesus because he told the truth
😂
What if there is no jesus but just pure politician who been controlling all major incident in our world since civilization age?? 😘
what is bro on about, Ahura Mazda is way better (Religion powerscaling)
Pretty valid take. Post time skip has less of a focus on the straw hats as a whole. They are our protagonists, I can't blame you for wanting more. But imo, most of them already completed their emotional arc of the series. Only one who we truly didn't get any for is jinbe, the only strawhat who officially joined post timeskip. And he's basically the most emotionally secure one on the crew, i dont think there's much to explore.
People praise one piece to the high heavens for its story and world building. But I don't think any of it would matter without the characters. Water 7 is still my favourite shonen arc for what it did with Ussop. And every strawhat had a similar stretch of chapters pre timeskip. The only strawhat moments which truly stuck with me like the pre time skip were franky in dressrosa and sanji in WCI.
But imo, one piece is still one piece. Its still a character focused series, just different characters now. Fishman island is a fine arc, i don't mind it. My least favourite one piece arcs being before and after the summit war seems pretty deliberate anyway. Punk hazzard is a good setup arc and the series finally returned to its roots in dressrora.
Everything with doflamingo, riku, rebecca, mr pink, law is amazingly done. While the pacing was rough and there were too many characters, the few in focus were remarkably written. Just as well as the pre timeskip strawhats.
Imo oda set himself up for slight failure by creating such a vaste world. It's true that there are way too many characters, but without them it will hurt the immersion. One thing i absolutely hate about stories with the stakes being the world ending or something, is that it only focuses on a few characters. A few nobodies that for some reason decide the fate of the world. It completely breaks immersion. Only series which managed to pull this off is imo Avatar and Gurren Laggan. The latter just made the stakes absurdly high it just came full circle
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Oda might've realised this, and even if he didn't I'm glad he makes up a lot of characters for each arc. It makes the stakes feel more believable, that it rightfully involves thousands in each island, and what the crew achieves in each island holds more weight.
Continuing with the characters, Zou had some great moments with the mink leaders (forgor names). WCI was finally another straw hat focused arc and oda delivered. Sanji, pudding, katakuri and big mom were done amazingly. It's true that there wanst much of an ideologically conflict, i think she carried it on her own. The world gave her the worst and she wanted to make it better. But she was so twisted from childhood, that her perfect world is nothing more than a parody of equality. It was amazingly done, one of the best op villains imo.
The comes my third favourite stretch of chapters in the series, the oden flashback. While i think wano as a whole was a let down, what oda did here more than makes up for it. It did so much for the lore an gave us one of the best one piece back stories. Oden is the chad character done to perfection. Momo became a worthy son of his near the end of the arc and yamato more than deserved to carry out his legacy.
And now the latest arc had my second favourite stretch of chapters in the series, the Kuma flashback. The suffering he went through but his willingness to keep going honestly pushed me out of a pretty bad place. Even after "death" his will lives strong in him. The most strong willed character thus far, and definitely best dad. Vegapunk was a second favourite. How his greed for more knowledge led to his downfall was explored well.
Aside from the main focused characters, most other side characters also had development post ts. Buggy's friendship with shanks, Kizaru and Aokiji's justice, the grand fleet ect.
While I missed Oda's focus on the crew I think he more than made up for it by exploring the rest of the world. What makes pre timeskip better is each arc being more cohesive. But with the world he created, i dont think oda has any other choice but to cram stuff into each arc. That also effects the panelling sadly. These are personally my only complaints.
Damn nice take but make a blog bro
Wonderful response dude the focus is the world now and we’ve been introduced to the strawhats and we get to see how they truly affect the world thru the experiences we have thru diff characters lowkey this vid was a bit of a bummer had some good points but this comment flipped it thanks for taking the time to type this
Thank you bro that's what I was saying Pre timeskip is heavily strawhat focused because it was a time development for the strawhats
Yeah, it's controversial but the whole point of crews like the Straw Hats is they're largely the people they're meant to be and most of their arc has already occurred. In smaller casts, you expect them to become completely different people.
Bro heavy On "I turn it page and sigh" it genuinely a pain to read the manga sometimes they will reveal some major in universe lore and I won't even realize because I got confused in the order I'm supposed to read it in
one of my main problems was the humour. The humour pre TS was so good especially when zoro was involved. Think back to skypiea AAAH, getting lost in sabaody, scaring everyone when they were descending from skypiea, hitting that cool ass pose in little garden. Now zoro just grunts and occasionally gets lost for gags.
Chopper used to be funny too. Now I hate chopper's voice in the anime cuz it is just way too annoying after hearing "don't praise me dumbass" for the millionth time without any other joke being there.
Let's not even get started on Usopp being the funniest character pre TS. But post TS i can't remember a single Usopp joke at all other than him being scared ig.
This is true because the gags were still somewhat new and fresh at that point. But for some reason oda just keeps going with the same gags, so they get kinda old. He still manages to impress me with how he’s able to tell the same jokes in different and new ways tho
@@KumoBear12 it's not just gags that were there pre-TS. Oda had unique jokes too. He did use gags but he added full on unique jokes on top of that. Like Usopp and Luffy bowing to that bear in Drum Island. Sanji and Nami being scared of bugs in Jaya. Bananagator from Alabasta. Now it just is either character gags (brook panties, sanji pervert, zoro lost, nami money) or what feels like idea of jokes.
I genuinely can't think of a single moment that made me burst out laughing in post TS. Idk maybe he felt the series should get a bit serious so he dropped all the jokes and kept only the gags to keep it going.
Yeah that’s true
I just thought of that one moment in wano tho, when the grim reaper himself shows up to take zoro. That shit was hilarious
@@dfactoropbr tbh i've never found myself laughing at any of the jokes in One Piece, I prefer the more serious tone it's taken, and i'm fine with most of the gags besides Sanji's, that stuff is just weird and annoying.
ok let's make this clear, character development is a good thing, BUT... u don't need it, characters DON'T have to change who they are, u can simply like them for their personality, if we apply this logic than straw hats really don't need more character development, they already had it, they should just be themselves
like... it would be cool if zoro had a big arc like sanji had in WCI but... people love zoro for who he is and not for his past, zoro is a strong badass who occasionally says badass lines, and people love it
I agree, character development isn’t always necessary. But if you have no development for any of the characters, that’s not very fun to me
@@KumoBear12 to each their own, yeh
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That's not necessary but it always depends on the type of characters you wanna focus that aspect on, like, it's really different to talk about a character of a 1:30 hour movie, even a protagonist from a short series to not need any kind of development, than all of the protagonists of a HECKIN MORE THAN 1000 CHAPTER SERIES where they're still all very young people (with maybe the exception of Jinbe) and it's crazy to think that they wouldn't change at all while in the huge adventure and obstacles they get through.
@@giornogiostar3214The thing is they do change. We’ve seen that throughout the entire story of Post Timeskip.
Sanji develops and realizes that he has a family that accepts him for who he is during WCI.
Robin gets stronger and is willing to become the monster the world views her as in order to protect her family.
Jimbei in general over the course of Pre and post TS has learned to further trust Luffy and even swear allegiance to him after realizing the type of person he is.
Then Luffy himself, who has seen the most development out of all of them. Post Timeskip is supposed to be a test for his newly strengthened resolve to become Pirate King and to protect his crew.
All the other Straw Hats reveal how far they’ve come compared to Pre TS. Even if it doesn’t seem like much on the surface.
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The thing is that... That isn't even true at all, there haven't even been moments of introspection of each character you mention for those extremely minor changes by the exception of maybe Sanji, even if there were, those are such minor and basic details that it isn't the clever writing you probably think it is.
Refreshing take. The only thing i disagree with was the brook and wholecake bit but ur pretty spot on with everything else.
End of pre timeskip straw hats were the same amount as all of post timeskip yet each straw hat were doing something memorable in water 7/ thrillerbark/ and sabaody but in post timeskip it’s truly a tragedy
Just found your channel and this is the second vudeo that pops out. I read OP from 2003 to 2019. I just couldn't do it anymore, all of your criticisms got to a boiling point for me and I stopped caring just like Oda seems to.
I agree with this video completely, it just feels like everyone is hardwired to say their "usual lines" or act like their main "character traits" ex: Sanji loves women, Nami loves money, etc. I made a video about this too.
Correction Kuro is a fantastic character. Simple but fantastic
I’ll agree that he’s pretty good
I personally love the self contained stories of each post time skip island.
2:01 She actually did do something. In Wano she fought Ulti and she was getting forced to say Kaido will become king of the pirates but instead she kept saying Luffy will become king of the pirates over and over again with Ulti smashing her hard head into Nami’s head. So she did a lot of things at Wano. Then at Whole Cake she was Standing On Business when she confronted Sanji for fighting Luffy.
Im pretty indefferent on the subject but i find your video well made and points thought out. The amount of glaze for one piece in the comments is incredible.
@@jared30 Thanks!
It's fair that you prefer pre-timeskip over post, but you're really underselling the post-timeskips story for what it is. You go on to say multiple times that characters have done "nothing" and then proceed to explain something very important that they do
(ex. Brook standing up to Big Mom and stealing the road poneglyphs).
I get that there's less big on screen moments for each straw hat but they all still have their own roles to fulfill, Dressrosa isn't an exception to how post-timeskip got worse, it never did. The focus has just shifted to a broader view of the world around the straw hats, and while that does mean less screen time for their moments, that doesn't mean they get "nothing" at all. It's fine that you prefer a smaller cast with more frequent moments but I don't think that equates to worse quality, each arc is plenty great on its own, they all have amazing moments throughout the story and build upon each other to reveal information to both us the readers, and the characters themselves. Hell, we even got one of the most heart-wrenching backstories of the series in Egghead.
TL;DR: One Pieces story didn't get worse after the timeskip, it just shifted its focus and while that may not be as interesting to some, many many many people love it just as much.
I speak in a kinda over exaggerated way, so "nothing" doesn’t literally mean nothing. It means "nothing compared to pre timeskip". Of course I’m aware of the different direction of the pts, but like I said in the video, the straw hats getting less to do wouldn’t have been as bad if the other problems I had weren’t there
I agree with this video. After post time skip, all the Strawhats outside of Luffy, Sanji, and Zoro, don't get to do anything. Oda literally admitted in a SBS that the other Strawhats are progressing towards their dreams, but only off screen. He also admitted to not taking the story as seriously anymore and wanting to go for more a disney like ending, maybe because of burnout?
I think the issue is that Oda isn't given enough time to plan out his story anymore. Wano is one of the worst arcs because of how many plot lines Oda dropped so he can rush the ending of the arc. If Oda was given weeks or months breaks to plan out the story, I think post time skip would have the potential to be one of the best manga sagas of all time.
I find it cringe how One Piece fans will simply just say "you didin't even watch the show" when these criticisms can only be made if you actually watched/read the series in it's entirety. It's okay to criticize One Piece, criticizing One Piece is not hating one One Piece. One Piece is not flawless, post-time skip proves how flawed the story is.
I agree that maybe it would be nice if Oda had longer breaks between chapters
I agree with the wano plot lines take, but I think after egghead its safe to say oda is back to handling multiple plotlines as well as humanly possible (makes sense cause he is taking a lot more breaks now lol) Wano is the only arc that has that problem tho, it was too big even for one piece, Im gonna assume "did you even watch the show" is directed at one of my other comments lol, have you ever heard of the term called "hyperbole"?
Sanji whole cake moments usopp dressrosa moments nami wano luffy pirate king dialogue moments Franky senor pink nd egghead mvp moments yal have short time memory loss
@sarov7658 Wow... you named a few solitary moments out of hundreds of chapters contained these arcs...
@@Kami.Asura000 There are hundereds
Just started watching your video.
Honestly speaking I think the peak of the strawhats as a crew was Enies Lobby, when Franky and Robin just joined up. I remember watching the One piece Strong world movie and thinking how cool pre timeskip Franky was. I feel like the core crew could have stayed being 8 and instead Oda could have told the story of Brook similar to Jinbe. You explore parts of Brook's story in an arc, for whatever reason he can't immediately join the crew but is an honorary member but you find arcs where you can continue telling Brooks story until he can join the crew somewhat fully fleshed out. No hate to brook but Oda hasn't done him any favours having him be on the crew and not doing much with him. If you have only about 8 core crew members for most of pre timeskip until the final war, they you might and I say might have more opportunities for good character work. I mean Oda did do it once before
I haven't watched the video yet, but it's probably going to be about the lack of focus on the Straw Hats in the post timeskip.
Which imo is fine, they had their arcs done in the first half of One Piece.
The second half should be focused more on wrapping up the story, and the endgame will have all the Straw Hats fulfulling their dreams, so they will get their focus again.
Exactly. They've beaten their, for the most part, traumas. There is no need to have them fall down again. The straw hats are already the Phoenix that have risen from the ashes.
I wish you would have talked about the Nika fruit reveal/Sun God powerup 😢
Im honestly not entierly sure what to feel about that stuff tbh
@@KumoBear12 Me neither
Don’t agree at but it’s your opinion
Finally someone said it, the character designs were way better in pre time skip
Yeah, less is more in this case
Nostalgia tards aside there are some designs in postts and prets I prefer over others lik usopp Zoro post ts> Franky(minus Shogun)pre ts better
@@phillemon7664 Franky stuff makes it exaggerated luffy has scar which symbolise the whole war zoro looks cooler wit scar usopp is more jacked there is half good half bad
@@sarov7658imo, robins design is also much cooler PTS, and brooks design is also much cooler PTS
@@waffleenjoyer-re3pg what I didn't know brook grew more bones in post ts lol and robin didn't have any change besides her boobs growing bigger which is more exaggerated in anime
I feel like half of the people in the comment section didn't even watch the full video
Kaido doesn’t just want to die. He wants to leave a legacy. So fighting aimless battles won’t get him anywhere, after all. He is searching for purpose. And he has another dream, which is saving the world. How can fighting random opponents be satisfying?
Kaido is one of the most well-written fictional antagonists.
Lol , no. There is 0 complexity. You don't save the world if you do what Kaido did to it. Kaido is lerfectly aware of what he's doing and is completely fine with it. Man was born evil and stayed evil. You'll probably deny it but the evidence is all up there.
Only thing i hated about Kaido was the way Oda handled him.He deserved a much better defeat than what he got.And the amount of Plot Armor Luffy had in that duel is so insufferable that Oda went even beyond and changed his Devil Fruit to the "Plot Plot no Mi".
@@lorddarkrai5753 lmaooooo. Kaido is born evil ? If kaido is born evil then luffy is born evil. They are mirror reflections of each other.
You just proved that he is complex, because you don’t understand him lol.
Kaido’s ways are definitely flawed. Because of his upbringing and because he is a human. That’s the whole point. He grew up on battlefield so his understanding of life is different. He measures people’s worth differently.
Kaido had one of the best antagonist conclusions in fiction. One of the best portrayals of ideological defeats. He didn’t lose because of the punch, he lost because of Luffy’s answer. An answer for a question he asked for decades.
@@wwe12153kaido was set up to be much more complex, a good backstory could’ve explained alot but we got litterally the worst backstory in the series, kuina vs down d. Stairs was better
@@Nothisndhdudjdjdj kaido is one of the most complex fictional antagonists. It doesn’t get higher than that. His flashback is perfect for his character. He is supposed to be difficult to understand. So he needed a short flashback.
@@wwe12153 To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand One Piece. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of kanji/hiragana and Japanese Numerology Puns most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Kaido’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Kaido truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in kaido's existential laugh "WORORORORO," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Echiro Oda's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Chinese style kaido dragon back tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎
I don't like timeskip as much either and i think you also explained to me why as well.
BROOOOO YOU ARE SOO RIGHT WITH NAMI AND ROBIN!
There's a kernel of truth in all your criticisms... but the issue is the extreme exaggeration and generalizations you're making to support your argument. You conveniently dismiss all the examples that don't suit the agenda you're pushing.
I think most sane people understand I’m exaggerating on purpose tho
@@KumoBear12 ironically, that's the same argument pathological liars like Usopp always use whenever they get called out for lying
@@TheRockerX lol? It’s really just to make the video more funny. That’s just the style of videos I like to make🤷♂️
I’m 50/50 with your video so far ( 10:56 ), but it mostly may just be phrasing as most of the video still hasn’t played.
That said, I don’t actually think some of the straw hats need character development (Jinbe, Brook, and Franky mostly), however, I think what most people want is just more characterization. Not changing or developing their character, but getting them time to shine again-which is partly what makes adventure stories so fun, and with how soda writes his characters especially.. distinguishes One Piece from everything else that much more.
I hate to admit it as long time one piece fan but he is totally right
He isn't tho
@@DirtymutiehaterBro said Usopp's new design isn't as good as the original. Excuse me, what!?
Best design for the New World *100%* goes to Usopp. I love that Oda seriously buffed him up and changed up the ugly brown overalls that's been with him since Syrup Village. It's not to say he didn't change up his outfits in other arcs like Drum Island, Alabasta, Enies Lobby (praise Sogeking), Thriller Bark, and Sabaody, but aside from those, Usopp just wore a variation of those bland overalls with something like a shirt underneath it (Skypiea and Post-Enies Lobby). Even with arcs like Enies Lobby or Thriller Bark, Usopp *STILL* has his brown overalls and is just wearing a variation that has something slapped onto it for the arc, but I can make an exception for our savior, Sogeking.
That, and I find his Pop Greens to be a much more interesting form of ammunition than his Sunflower Star, rocks, eggs, and lead shots. He really made the effort to push himself and said that when he traveled to the more dangerous parts of the Boin Archipelago, he found better and stronger Pop Greens to use as ammo. I still love the Pine Cone Grenades and Fireworks Flowers. Think about it: Kuma sent Usopp to an island full of highly combustible seeds and plants that wanted to eat him and expected him to come back alive. Given the results, that's crazy.
The only thing I do agree with is the pacing, even in the anime. The escape from Whole Cake Chateau in the anime dragged on longer than we needed it to. It's true, the characters don't get a lot of focus as much as they used to, like when the crew has to split up into groups, and I definitely felt that during Whole Cake Island. As much as I love characters like Nami, Chopper, Sanji, and *ESPECIALLY* Brook in that arc, I already missed the rest of the crew and was ready to join them again in Wano because the Sanji Retrieval Team was already an eyesore for me. So, imagine how giddy I was when I finally saw Zoro just strolling through one of the markets in Wano? It had been far too long and I couldn't have been happier to see everyone else. That, and I was sick of those Germa 66 bigots (except for Reiju). I only wish Sanji had given them, especially Judge, a good beating. He didn't get hurt enough for my liking, and while I understand Sanji's character arc in WCI boils down to feeding Big Mom because he's a chef first and foremost, I still wish he got to do a bit more kicking. I just wanted Sanji to give Judge and his brothers a few more kicks to their brains (if they even had any 😒). He's also right about Usopp not getting much time to shine. The most he's done up to this point was shoot down Sugar by unlocking Observation Haki in Dressrosa and keep Page One at bay during Wano, but it was ultimately Big Mom who took him out. Here's to hoping Elbaf will treat him better.
Also, what's this about Nami's Climatact? Of course it's become much more simple to use. It's been upgraded with Weatheria technology, so of course she would find a way to fight much easier, i.e. Weather Eggs and chains of thunder clouds. Even Usopp didn't get rid of his Dials from Skypiea. They've been incorporated into his slingshot, so it's not like they've been forgotten about.
At least, that's how I see all this.
@@Dirtymutiehater sadly He is...
good video. I think a big problem now is that oda doesn't listen to editors anymore, so there is no one to stop him from introducing to much shit at once.
I think it's a combination of so many sub-plots, but also I don't think Oda really knows where his going or what he wants to do with these many sub-plots he started. Before, Oda was very careful to leave things vague and theory-piecers can have a ball filling our heads with what this or that eye-twitch means. But as the story winds down we're not seeing much more meaning to anything and the explanations we do get aren't very satisfactory. Worse...I'm not sure they really fit together all that well.
Egghead was supposed to be the place where I was really hoping to find answers because who better than the SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD, connected to the strongest faction of the world and the very height of power? All we got was some Bonney-simp. THAT guy is the worse let down in One Piece to me.
We'll see...
Exactly, it's the Island Of The Future, we shove at least given Franky a major sub plot I. This arc, Vegapunk Is his hero and his Inspiration, yet they barely interact with each other, it's sad
I'm sure we'll get that once the other vegapunk awakens after the strawhats took her with em
How is there meaning if Oda is leaving things vague or up to interpretation
Half agree post timeskip has worse pacing and the strawhats getting shafted
But i say lore wise and worldbuilding wise its been peak
I think there has definitely been more lore and world building, but I think the world building suffers sometimes because the new characters in those worlds aren’t always that good like I said in the video. Skypiea had incredible world building while not having that many characters
It doesn’t have more lore jusy think about what your saying😭 pre time skip was the set up to lost of the lore your thinking you’re just getting now be if you understand sub text a lot of the shit revealed later on was already heavily hinted at.
I think Kaido is a little bit more nuanced than that, but not by much. He is depressed and wants to die, but essentially he just doesn't want to do anything because he is dead inside I think, they could have at least made him wonder around randomly and give him some personal moments where he struggles with his existence, trying to make sense of his life and realizing that he only has strength and that's why he wants to cause a massive wars, or make his past even more traumatic (perhaps making him a chained gladiator forced to fight for years to stay alive for the amusement of others, just a tought but I think that would be a bit more interesting than what we got). Yeah, kind of wasted potential for a character that could have been so much more, and someone many people would have been able to relate with at least on the depression part
Of course a Gojo Pfp would have a terrible take on One Piece
Of course a Luffy pfp would hate every other manga/anime
@@SkullFC-19 when did I say I hate every other anime/manga 😂
@@SkullFC-19it would actually make sense to consume other shorter series before a long one. You should be able to deduce that much at least.
@@ToonLoBrowell when did he say he was a jjk fan?
@@ToonLoBrouse ur brain
Look i think i know what do you mean. For me, it's actually possible to sum up in a single reason: lack of story focus. As you said, theres too much characters and themes. But i have hope with one piece's final part. It'very common stories get more unfocused in the mid part to return to focus in the last quarter. Actually, egghead felt veeery better in that regard. Good video!
I honestly prefer One Piece after the time skip, I was younger and much more impatient so on my first watch through of one piece I skipped A LOT of the pre timeskip stuff because I was so deathly bored, now as I grew older it grew on me but I wouldnt have bothered watching if not for the timeskip
@@minisnakali exactly, i nearly died of boredom in Water7 and Skypea to this day feels like a bad dream…horrendous arc
@@breakhammer87 How is water seven a bad arc
@@breakhammer87 To this day I still haven't actually watched Skypia, I literally can't get through it, I've tried, I really have but I can't its so boring to me, I only know what happened because I've read summaries of what happened
@@minisnakali maybe One Piece just isn't for you
@@breakhammer87 i just threw up thats the worst take ive heard in a while
Your take on brook in whole cake island is valid. He was one of the key players in terms of the action, but as usual, his character just stagnated
Think you might be the only person who agreed with me on that lmaoo
Thriller Bark is one of my favorite arcs exactly because of how good the crew interactions were in that.
That's a big part of what I enjoyed in the series.
Then you should check out the video im posting tomorrow👀👀👀
It got better after the timeskip
Bigger World
More Haki powers combined with Devil fruits
Plot is Going crazy with the threads oda set up
Just because a Character is finished developing doesn't mean they should be written out
You undervalued pudding too much especially with her place now
Hordy have no reason is kind of the point and we're not meant to see him change
The Adventure has more focus and direction since they have the rubbings
I agree with all the potives you said, still its not better than pre time skip (egghead was top 3 arc tho)
@@xandex69 I still think it's better
@@murderman8578 Your opinion at the end of the day
@xandex69 timeskip is better but carry on yappin
xandex69 pouring his heart and soul into these comments
fishman island and punk hazard feel like a drought. and that first bad impression also plays a factor
While there are a lot of things I like about the Time Skip, I also feel like there are things from the pre-Time Skip that has been lost. It just feels different from the first half.
I feel like nothing is really being said in a lot of this video. I mostly agree with the strawhats part (minus brook being useless in WCI), but a lot of the time I just feel like you’re saying “this is something that happened post timeskip. Remember this thing from pre timeskip? That was much better”. I think it’s also worth mentioning the non-strawhat characters that got way better post-timeskip. Law, Kuma, Roger, Doflamingo, Aokiji, and Koby all have much more meaningful story arcs post timeskip.
The post timeskip era also has inarguably some of the best flashbacks in the series. If someone were to say their top 3 flashbacks were all from post timeskip, I wouldn’t agree, but I would not bat an eye.
A lot of the character examples in this video also feel cherrypicked. Let’s remember that pre timeskip had Moria, the four priests, Johnny and Yosaku, and Absalom. Post timeskip has Odin, Vegapunk, Bartolomeo, Pedro, Morgans… there’s lots of good and lots of mid on both ends.
Also I gotta say, criticizing the Akazaya 9 for “all being introduced at once” (they weren’t) while ALSO criticizing Kinémon for being around too long… which one is it? Kinda contradictory. Also, a group of 9 new characters all being introduced at once… that describes the Supernovas from Saboady better then the Akazaya 9, lol.
Idk maybe I’m just riding the high of Egghead wrapping up and being my favorite arc in all of One Piece but this video is a massive miss for me.
I appreciate the critisism! Although I do disagree with a lot of it. Yes I bring up a lot of things from the pre time skip that was better, because that\s the point of the video. But whenever I brought those things up, I feel like I gave reasons for it, like choppers monster point, usopp and nami's fighting style, nami's fight with ulti, the crew splitting up. There is like one time I remember of the top of my head when I talk about franky's strong right, but even then I had just finished explaining why I didn't like him getting a bunch more powerups. So I don't really know what you mean in that regard. I am cherrypicking a little bit, but that's because my point is that the timeskip is worse, not bad. I do bring up the fact that a lot of villains pre time skip also aren't that great, because at no point am I saying pre time skip it's perfect, only better, not even by a huge amount. Also Johnny and Yosaku were goated lol. And I don't think I ever said the akazaya nine got introduced all at once? If I did then please correct me. I said they were new, which I guess isn't technically true because two of them we had already met, so 7 new characters then I guess? And I don't think comparing them to the supernovas is fair at all. The supernovas were around for like a tenth of the length of wano, and the story never really had a focus on them in that arc. Not even law, he didn't get focused on until after the timeskip. They were not the sympatethic heroes of a 150 chapter long arc. I appreciate the critisism but I don't agree lol
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Wano and egghead are the best arcs so far, Dressrosa and Whole cake were amazing also
Pre timeskip was pure magic. Time skip is typical average shonen jump garbage.
THIS^ is a child’s mindset
@@DaKing540you have a optard mindset
I think you misunderstand Kaido’s character very much, he’s one of the most subtlety written characters in the story but he’s so good
I don’t think the subtlety of his character came trough in the story clearly enough, nor do I think it played a big part in the story. Also think there are some inconsistencies, I mentioned some in the video
lmao you have to be trolling😭
@@KumoBear12 Fair opinion to have, I agree he should’ve been more straightforwardly put, especially cause One Piece isn’t shy to doing that with characters, but I think that it is still there and while it’s hard to find, I don’t know if that’s a negative to his character y’know.
Like he’s just not as you put it with him being strongman caveman
@@LilShiro05 Nah genuinely he’s good
Wano was mid, but Kaido was one of the best parts about it
@@O.Reagano
What's good about kaido?
Honestly I like old pre time skip better but they’re both very good it’s just new one a new form of good and style and animation they’re both so amazing tho and masterpiece in art
even know fishmen island ark is known to be bad its whole purpose was to show how the straw hats have change and IMPROVED showing all the new powers they have and also gives BROOK a time to shine
whole cake island is not worse it give sanji the character normally 3rd or behind zoro a time to shine and brook carries all most the whole thing
Short answer: It didn’t
Long answer: It did, and this video explains it really well.
@@phillemon7664
It did.
Franky was ruined 😢😢😢
My boy 😔
My boy!!!! 😔
I also hate chopper being a mascot like look at me I’m pre timeskip
Just read the manga dawg. Anime is ass. Manga is PEAK!
Check my last one piece video
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No matter what you say bro. One piece fans are and will always gonna be blind even tho pretty much everything you said was proven facts 👍 stay safe. Amazing video, agree with you 99%
Thanks man!
Bro, what are you talking about? Literally everyone says that One Piece is peak right now. Yes, there were some slower parts after the time jump, but you cannot generalise that One Piece got "worse" after the time skip. Overall, it got even better with more hype moments. And of course the main characters have to be more in focus than the others as the story progresses.
This comment proves that most One Piece fans dont understand opinions
I have red until Punk Hazard so I dont have the whole insite. But I think part of the problem is your expectations. Since the crew gets bigger and bigger, you cant have all of them play a big role in every arc or maybe in any arc, some of them must be secondary figures. I agree that new characters are too menny and it becomes too messy. For me I lost a little interest in One Piece way back when Robin joined the crew in jaya, they become to menny and Robin joining the crew didn't seen believable until water seven. But when I think of it in another direction that the main characters are the east blue pirates, and must of all Luffy, then it make sense that all of the other doesn't get that much screen time. I don't know if Oda managed to do that in a proper way in later arcs, but I think you cant expect every strawhat to get their moment in every arc, the series is long as it is.
I both agree and disagree as Dressrosa and Whole Cake Island do a great job of fleshing and expanding upon the casts they have for their respective stories, its pretty hard to miss actually 😅. Wano however, I agree, outside The Monster Trio and kinda-sorta Robin, I feel like the remaining Straw Hats kinda got shafted, especially towards the climax as it felt like Oda very much poured that energy into fleshing out Oden and The Era of Roger not really focusing on the development on the rest of the cast.
I completely agree. And when I say these things I get so much hate, but honestly people are so blind, they cannot see the difference or they praise the post timeskip era more. One Piece was about many things and it now turned into a pure battle manga where the guy with flashier haki or flashier aura is the best and nothing else matters. I mean, come oon. Hopefully Elbaf fixes these. I liked that start so far.
@@gemodemplay415 Doomers saying Ussop getting sidelined, like Franky was sidelined in Egghead.
Bro, kumas whole storyline disproves everything you said😂😂
Tbh I barely remember non luffy fights post timeskip. Like some are cool but in pre time skip most of them had impact and memorable moments that just dont haplen now
I agree with many of these points, but Egghead and the final saga restored my faith in the story. I feel that the focus has shifted to Luffy and the Strawhats changing the world, with most of their development occurring pre-timeskip, which is why we’re now focusing on newer characters. While I’m not invested in many of the post-timeskip characters, the pre-timeskip ones are becoming more relevant to the plot. As for Big Mom and Kaido, I don’t believe Oda is finished with their arcs; I think God Valley is holding back their full story.
Hey man I don’t know if you’re going to read this but I agree with some of your opinions there’s some other opinions I might disagree on but overall a good video and I can admit this one piece post timeskip didn’t start good until Dressrosa 💯
6:43 honestly I prefer Franky and Chopper’s old designs and abilities.
Literally my problem in post timeskip , Pretty strong points , id even like to point out how inconsistent the power scaling has gotten (i absolutely don't like to but ) ussop defeats sugar is the lamest possible way id think even at age 3 ,Luffy learned future sight -never actually used it , wasn't shown how kaido and bm were using it where they clearly should have , luffy learnt that we can coat and use conquerors haki just like armament haki and thats what is advanced conquerors haki - like talk about lazy writing
The stories too are very much try to copy Alabasta - like mass manipulation by Bon clay's ability , doffy by framing the king with his power like come up with smtg new oda
Whole cake island was the best post time skil arc for me tbh , I actually felt for some characters in that arc and it had some really good moments too
While that said ,egghead exceeded all my expectations and went crazy id expect the same from elbaph , i really think oda didn't want most of the post timeskip arcs he just made them for popularity and run , maybe thats why he said the egghead is the beginning of ebd
To be honest I don't have any thoughts on the power scaling stuff. While I think the action is really good, it has never been one of the main aspects I like about one piece. I couldn't tell you what the different haki powers even work except for some of them or which names are which powers lol
@@KumoBear12 i also don't actually care about power scaling but we can't deny it's a narrative tool and inconsistencies (especially like the sugar's lame defeat) in it really downgrade a story
@@debatexdebate Yeah but I meant like, I know so little about the power scaling stuff that I haven't even noticed the inconsistentcies your talking about. Like I thought usopp defeating sugar was fine
I think you’re overlooking a lot of nuance with these takes, but I’ll just say this: After the time skip One Piece becomes about the story of the world rather than the Straw Hats, they just happen to be at the center of it all.
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You lost me at "Brook does nothing" when talking WCI
Bro goes HE HAS NO DEVELOPMENT. Bro what development is he supposed to have hes already lived two full luve lives already, has been a pirate captain, fought in his countries military, and is now sailing on an emperors crew. He knows exactly what hes about and just wants to help the ppl that rescued him from floating around in hellish loneliness and are gonna bring him back to laboon.
Brook doesn’t need development other then new powers and doing hype shit, and mabye explanations of the underworld and his fruit or something
I AGREE I AGREE I AGREE !!!!!!!!!
Damn it felt good to hear someone understand how I felt after the time skip. People will say it's nostalgia but it's really not. The designs my god chopper, ussop, franky... A waste. They were truly some of the coolest and most unique characters. Now they are so empty. so much less personality on their design and their characters. In terms of development, I admit I had never paid attention since your video which actually opened my eyes. For the Wano Arc (not Onigashima), dressrosa and wholecake are among my favorite arcs so I don't have much to say about that despite the development. I'm rewatching Thriller Bark and what a delight. Probably the most underestimated arc. The DA is fabulous. the humor is clearly at the top of one piece. The rhythm is awesome. The appearance of the new character Brook obviously. One of the best endings... I'll stop there. Great video
Put the pots in the cabinet bro
Kinda felt the same to be honest at the start up until Dressrosa, but then you gotta realize that the story started really evolving past just the crew and post the time skip, the focus shifted more on the overall world plot as it obviously became bigger. I mean at this point majority of the crew have been fleshed out anyway. Haha.
I know Im late and I didnt finish the video but put some respect on brook standing up to big mom like lets be real, pretimeskip brook didnt get alot, and his ENTIRE character is gags from start to finish
But when that man stood up to big mom and didnt give a FUCK, he was the most raw strawhat. Period.
I can only say that you are watching and reading One Piece in a very superficial way, and by the way, Blackbeard was not a Yonkou in Pre-Timeskip, he was still the new Shichibukai at Marine Ford, then he became Whitebeard’s “replacement”. And Big Mom and Kaido are not Mid; each of them has an explanation of their past and why they are like that (especially Big Mom being abandoned by her parents and manipulated by Mother Caramel and Streusen). I can say more about Big Mom, but I’m going to focus on Kaido because I think a lot of people don’t understand him and that’s why they see him as a flat character. He, a person of oni race, was forced to work as a soldier since he was a child, he was not really free, then he became, with Big Mom, part of The Rocks pirates, but he wanted to prove more to the world that he was the strongest, and not someone you can take advantage of. He lived in a poor country and the governments of his country used his strength for their convenience, they even wanted to sell him to the marines, so they could get to Reverie, obviously Kaido escaped. Later when the government captured him, they experimented on him to research his fruit. He never experienced freedom in his life and he realized that people with power were weaker than him, that’s why he has the idea that he needs to change those positions, that this time the strongest will be on top, not the common people. Knowing that King reinforces that thought because King wanted Kaido to become Joy Boy, then he has this contrast in his personality where he gets depressed and nostalgic, you can interpret this as his vulnerable side after experiencing all those bad things that he hides and keeps to himself. Also, Kin being a lunarian is important to the main story (the seraphim were created thanks to his genes). And I could also talk about each of the stwahats and other characters but it’s not worth it because you don’t analyze or interpret anything.
Yeah that’s pretty mid to me, when thinking about how these aspects failed to have any real impact or influence on the story
@@KumoBear12They do though, you just obviously can't read further into a story than what's shown and told to you directly on screen, like a kid in 3rd grade. Kaido's story and the way his character operates morally and thematically acts as a bridge between Luffy (and the current generation of pirates as a whole), and the old generation. He stands as one of the last greats of his age, and encapsulates the worst parts of it. By facing and defeating him in wano, the way Luffy and his crew view the world and are viewed by it becomes much more than just that of rookie pirates journeying across the Grandline. It becomes a story of political interests, serious moral implications, and makes you have to actually sit back and think about things before you fully understand them. Sure, it's not a whimsical and full of fun and funny character moments and gags 24/7, but the story is maturing and aging with its audience. Not saying none of your points are valid, but you seem to have watched OP in a very superficial way.
@@BlitzTheOissilent867 Notice how you didn't even adress what I said in the comment
@@KumoBear12 Dude, I spent 10 minutes typing that earlier comment. I'm not spending another 20 breaking down all of post timeskip in a way that the narrative would make sense to a preschooler. Just stop being dumb and think about things for more than 2 seconds, it not really difficult man.
@@KumoBear12if you think this is all mid then I wonder what you think about Jjk? You probably think it’s the best thing to grace the earth don’t you?😂 it’s what I’d expect from Jjk fans tho honestly.
Shanks vs Kid is a prime example of bad writing. Sure, Oda never drew really good fights like other mangakas but he didn't waste characters like that either. It feels like he made the world too big and he can't handle so many characters anymore. I think he's better at foreshadowing things than anything else.
You think kid is dead? Bro is somewhere beached on wano and a giant took him in.
Even tho dorry and broggy beat them, they weren’t around for the terror bigmom brought on elbaf. She is stated to be hated among all giants and their eternal enemy and kid is credited with taking her down. So the rest of the giants should view kid as a hero.
Oda literally doesn’t kill character in his stories, he is a puss
That is my theory anyways but id bet my left nut his role in the story aint complete
10:05 HE LITERALLY FOUGHT BIG MOM WHAT DO YOU MEAN
The oroblem with the straw hats isnt that "theres too many of them" its that Oda isn't being creative when writing them anymore so they have been stuck as stale characters with the same gags thrown in in hopes that we'll laugh and accept the mediocrity
@@captmista1355 I don’t think that there being many straw hats is a problem in itself, I think it is a problem for Oda, I think he struggles to do exactly what you said for that reason
Tbh i love pre timeskip but i love post timeskip as well. The only thing that i hate was the nika reveal. It had no foreshadowing and came out of nowhere. Oda desperately tried to link it back to past references by calling it sun god even though the sun doesnt have anything to do with luffys abilities just so fan can chew on it and claim oda foreshadowed it. Luffy having the rubber fruit would be way better
Now it seems like oda is focusing more on that than the other crew members. Franky could've had important character writing in egghead but instead we got more nika lore. Elbaf is supposed to be usopps arc but idk anymore since nika was written to have a important significance in elbaf now.
The biggest and one of the only foreshadowing we had that hinted at Luffy's fruit was not truly a paramecia, is how luffy displayed properties of the fruit that would not be possible if he was truly a paramecia type, like Luffy changing the course of his attack against Katakuri. Some people use example's like law's fruit or Kuma's fruit also having a bunch of weird properties, but those fruits are more abstract, while rubber is a simple concept. As for Nika it should've been introduced earlier, but I think the way that Oda has implemented it and especially in egghead makes it a good inclusion.
Anyone who is being honest should recognize the massive flanderization that happens to the entire cast post time skip. One Piece was always at its best when it was a character focused narrative and not a plot focused narrative. Early One Piece and how its arcs were structured revolved around the characters with the plot being the backdrop for forging a change in their development. Whether it be Usopp, Nami, or Robin. It is why Sanji's arc works so well post timeskip. The expectation Oda set with the audience in the first half was it was a character focused story and quite frankly it is what he excels at the most in his writing. He fell into the trap of loving world building more than focusing on his already huge cast which would have greatly benefitted from the focus. Remember that all the straw hats had dreams they wanted to achieve... Are we even close to those being fulfilled?
I think they have cool moments.
The problem is that powerups are too common these days. I want to see more team fight moments doing combos. Like if Nami will be supporting as producing mirage for sanji. Ussop holding enemy by his vines while chopper is fighting, by providing unlimited supply of plant based nunchucks, and variety of weapons, Franky providing mobility to Ussop while sniping. Things like these are cooler for me than power ups.
Also, please bring back old scary monster point, old horn point, and dark-skinned robin.Dark Skinned Mama Robin is a waaaay cooler design than the white skinned one
I love one piece, but I do acknowledge that pre timeskip was significantly better and more memorable.
The recent party with Blackbeard Coby and the marines vs Blackbeard has imo been the best part of one piece so far
Chopper feels like an issue, and it seems like Oda wants the second half of One Piece to focus more on worldbuilding than on Straw Hat moments. Since a lot of character development was already done in the pre-time skip, there isn’t much left to explore without saving some growth for the final saga. As a result, the post-time skip feels more plot-driven, putting characters into difficult situations where they either stick to their established traits or change-adding to the drama of the post-time skip maybe thats why its feel like repetitive
I love most of the side characters in posttimeskip but Wano is the only arc where it felt like there were too many. Aside from Luffy’s parts, some elements didn’t feel organic-like Chopper’s cold virus subplot. I enjoyed Dressrosa, Whole Cake Island, and Zou more than most of pre-time skip arcs. I hope the final war will pay off all the worldbuilding and side characters Oda has developed over the years. final saga is really strong egghead is one of best arc Hot take: the pre-time skip is overrated. It has its own issues and slow parts-like Marineford. Without the events that follow, the war in that arc feels very childish wihtout post war part thats arc isnt even top3
Wholecake island and egghead are the only GREAT arcs post timeskip that didn’t have an insane amount of issues.
After Gear 5 i can safely say i still care about a lot of things in One Piece but never for Luffy as a character.
Kaido deserved a much better treatment than Oda.He wanted to make him si stupidly broken that the inly way ti defeat him is to go stupidly broken and be resurrected after death.LAME.
And now in Egghead Oda went on a spree saying "Somebody will die wooooo somebody will die woooooooo" , actual stakes?HELL NO , Saturn died because his boss was fed with him hahahahahaha.I know what they'll say next.Vegapunk dead?Where is he dead exactly?All i see is Oda doing everything in his power not to show Stella dead.
TimeSkip One Piece has been One Big D.Isappointment after Wano
I completely agree that Kaido was treated so badly, especially Tobiroppo who was simply flushed down the toilet. Nobody knows where they are or where they are staying and I hope they don't come to Yamato Cover Story. It's been over a hundred or even more chapters and Oda just can't mention them. If Ulti is the person in Chapter 1130 which steals the Sword of Yamato. Then you know where the quality goes. Why I think this she you could check in One Piece Treasure Cruise there is a Artwork of Ulti - Rowdy Girl Fascinated by Fireworks and in Chapter 1124 you can see how she runs.
The same applies to Egghead Arc, should that not reveal the secrets and certain people such as Stussy. She was in Big Mom's Party she was portrayed as a mystery woman of unknown age. She seemed to know a lot more than others and suddenly she exposed herself to Lucci and Kaku to help Vegapunk, who still lost his life and she was spared. What kind of logic is that?.
0:56 this early and already speaking Truth
sorry about the amount of hate you are getting, i personally think you bring up very valid criticism
Thank you man😅
Post timeskip is usually centered with Luffy,Zoro and other non Strawhats
(No trolling or rage baiting)
In 2022 I force myself to watch the show (I drop the show at the big elephant EP 755), and I was enjoying it there were bad moments and good moments that made like it. But then I noticed the problem after the time skip, I thought I was tripping I was legit torturing myself to watch the time skip episodes and I had to use 2x speed and dub. And I thought I was the only one with this problem mainly the first and second. the third one just a little bit that being little Tony Tony and Franky. Am not caring much about the third problem because I made a mental note that this series is more of a cartoon looney toon type of logic design and attitude wise. I don't like Luffy unless he has chemistry with another character like Usopp, Nami, Zoro. If Luffy acts or speaks on his own is pretty boring because you already expect what he'll do or say I get that he's emotionally intelligent but that can get you so far. In a series what is as long as one piece I expected Luffy's understanding of freedom or his mentality but nope not really.
I sadly don't like Zoro because he was designed to appeal the series aspect of shonen or seriousness of one piece in general I understand why he's serious after the loss of mihawk but there's more emotions then just that he acts one dimensional but he's not there's so much he's hiding it's the same problem with Luffy is like one character was separated into two and that's the protagonists.
TL: DR
I noticed the quality was declining I thought I was only me and the rest of the show felt like torture because of the bad pacing (The challenge was look as many episodes before the end of the year the main reason this was a challenge is because I already watch the other big 3 Bleach, Naruto and Dragon Ball except one piece) and I drop it at the elephant part episode 755.
I can see why people like this show. It's just not for me. I got to see great arcs and even watched the Netflix adaptation and i liked it pretty goofy but had the same spirit as the OG. I don't hate the show I just dislike how it's written/operated.
Thank you for reading and sorry if I made you mad this is my honest view of the show 7.4 score.
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SO this can be pretty summed up by "i don't like it because i wanted something else". Which is fine but not an actual reason as to why post timeskip is bad in itself,you just happen to not vibe with it.
Basically pre timsekip is used for exposition so that post timeskip can go a somewhat different way with its basis already built and not needing to remake it every time. The exposition made you understand why the Strawhats are Family, you already know it, we get a few moments here and there to see what's the same, what's changed but we don't "need" more. More is bonus. ANd I get wanting more, I'd love to have more but it's not needed and if Oda gave us more he'd probably get lost in it tbh.
Don’t agree that it can be summed up like that. I do not "want" anything from one piece. Oda is free to do whatever he wants, he could turn it into a story about fishing for all i care as long as it’s good. This video is simply me explaining why I don’t think the new direction worked as well for me
@KumoBear12 that's my point tho. If it didn't work for you it's because it didn't meet what you wanted out of it. Whether you knew what you wanted out of it before it happens or not is a different story.
(basically there can't be disappointment without expectations)
@@celia1888 But I don’t want anything specific out of it. I’m fine with the direction Oda chose to go with for the post time skip, it’s the execution of those ideas or directions that I don’t like
kaido isn't that mid tho , he is underwhelming but not mid , you can go for alex's video for better interpretation of kaido , katakuri was good too
pre time skip doesn't have even one antag on katakuri's level , now for side characters we got law , corazon too , they are really good
kuma is good too , so i don't think post time skip is that bad but pre time skip has better plot
@Sanji_artic kaido has had enough of his time , he is like a 6.5(+)/10 character , i don't think there will be much jump in quality even aft3r flashbacks
That “diaper” is Choppers hat read the sbs for this extra info. But you did say you don’t like reading a lot of text so never mind.
SBS: I am aware you put the information in the video but you added it in like Oda afterwards without properly addressing it so to quote you “it’s just weird”
Ironically your the one who didn’t read the text I put up as I said that about chopper💀
@@KumoBear12So I was listening to the video and not watching it, so I went back to watch and then apologize but the shit was on screen for like a second. Edit it and address it verbally in the video, you did the same thing Oda did. You pulled an SBS didn’t address it in the video and put the info as text in the video later.
@@joy4themightydonutchainsaw620 Yeah because it's obvious that im just making a joke. If I had to pause everytime I make a joke to clarify, that wouldn't be very fun
@@KumoBear12 So we just both yapping
Your last Point is spot on. One Piece just has to much text in the later parts.
Also people are shitting on Kubo because bleachs Story structure is to introduce 20 characters at the beginning of an arc, but Oda is not much better in that regard