How The One Piece Live Action Misunderstood Arlong Park

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @digitaladventurer2142
    @digitaladventurer2142 10 годин тому +71

    I don't think they misunderstood; we're just seeing the problem of compacting like 50 episodes into 8.

    • @sumanthmw20
      @sumanthmw20 7 годин тому +9

      Oh yeah all those garp scenes were necessary for making it compact

    • @OrdinaryCritic
      @OrdinaryCritic 5 годин тому +1

      @@sumanthmw20if they hired the guy for the first scene, then that would be a waste of money for a decent Garp casting. I’m pretty sure they had to make use of what they contracted to pay him for one season.

    • @Yuujiji
      @Yuujiji 5 годин тому +2

      @@OrdinaryCritic they could've just not put garp in this early on for roger's execution

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow 5 годин тому +1

      Sanjis eyebrows and usopps nose because they wanted to ground the series lmao they need to not make this live action series because they totally missed the mark. Rearranging story beats and plot points and characters where they shouldn't be etc.

    • @pugchamp419
      @pugchamp419 5 годин тому

      @@DANCERcow mf you're tellin me you want usopp walkin around with a 3 inch sausage attached to his face?

  • @kamisama3174
    @kamisama3174 2 дні тому +27

    It pisses me off so much that arlong park is destroyed for some unnecessary scene of grap . The fact that one most important and longest arc of East blue saga is watered down to one episode and even that episode there where 10 mins of unnecessary garp scene

    • @YaidenSevere
      @YaidenSevere 18 годин тому +6

      I mean the arlong park in the anime was way to long

    • @outtapocketcriminal
      @outtapocketcriminal 15 годин тому +5

      ​@@YaidenSevereI disagree as pacing gets way worse

    • @Lovelywishesdash
      @Lovelywishesdash 5 годин тому +3

      Luffy did defeat Arlong pretty quickly. The only thing that made the fight long was him being thrown in the pool

  • @Gaarakicksass90
    @Gaarakicksass90 3 дні тому +38

    From a long term one piece fan - I felt the live action was missing something quite alot and i coudnt pin point exactly why. Thank you for breaking down the exact reasons I struggled to find.

  • @xmetalgamerx
    @xmetalgamerx 12 годин тому +17

    The live action was so much fun and I’m genuinely obsessed with it. I support the project all the way. But that also means recognizing its flaws and hoping with all my heart that they’ll listen and improve.
    I need it to get better in every season so it can encourage more people to read the manga or watch the anime for the complete experience.
    It’s my favorite story of all time and it makes me so happy to see more people connect with it. But I totally agree with your points on Luffy’s character in the LA.

  • @boredbeck
    @boredbeck 9 годин тому +17

    In my head, this is the reason why Steve Maeda was removed as a showrunner.
    Matt Owens did mention that he was kinda pissed that they removed Usopp's moment in his fight against Chuu...Maeda was also the one who insisted in adding Garp's plotline in the story.
    I believe Matt Owens wanted to stick to the actual story but it was during the pandemic where he didnt see the post editing process and someone else called the shots which is why he was a bit pissed with the decisions of the cut...i believe the cuts was mostly becoz of Maeda (my guess at least)

    • @emmybee5189
      @emmybee5189 4 години тому

      iirc the final cut of the show was edited in the middle of the writers strike so Matt couldn't take the helm because any input towards the final cut is considered "writing"

  • @Choppydplug
    @Choppydplug 12 годин тому +10

    There was supposed to be more scenes for the live action along park and other things like it was supposed to be 10 episodes and like usopp, usopp had that this is embarrassing I need to fight moment but it was cut sadly hopefully we’ll get the cut scenes

  • @friedgumbo
    @friedgumbo 13 годин тому +23

    I could be biased since I got into One Piece because of this adaptation, but I would like to disagree with a couple things. I don’t think the adaptation “misunderstood” Arlong Park. Sure, it might have been a bit watered down, but that’s just because of the limit of 8 episodes. Also, I think the Garp plot works really well. With this show having a seasonal structure, I think it would’ve been wrong to introduce Koby for one episode then never have him pop up again. Great video though, I definitely have an even better appreciation of Arlong Park now. I also appreciate the fact that you were still respectful to those that enjoyed the live action, instead of calling it objectively inferior.

    • @NoseHasEyes
      @NoseHasEyes  13 годин тому +4

      Thank you! :D I'm really happy to hear that you got into One Piece because of the adaptation. Seeing people get into the series always makes me happy and it's nice to see them have a different perspective on the series.
      I do think there are some merits to the Garp b-plot such as using the marine powers to command the Warlords to compensate for the lack of Baratie and allowing viewers to get to know Koby before he returns much later in the series. I went into the adaptation, treating it as a standalone project but comparisons can sometimes be killer of fun lol

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow 5 годин тому

      They should have just turned this into movies since a 2-3 hour film spanning the length of the MCU each getting over a 200 million budget would have been far better of a choice to do! The manga and SBS is literally their storyboard and script!

    • @leonardojuangorena4421
      @leonardojuangorena4421 4 години тому +1

      @@DANCERcow they already had to cut a lot of stuff for 8 hours of content, how do you want to cramp everything in a film? How many films? Keep in mind it takes at least 3 years for a 3hr film and around 2 years for a 8hr season.

    • @tubguinace
      @tubguinace 4 години тому

      I don't understand why it would be wrong for Koby to be introduced and never pop up again just because this is a seasonal show.
      I would have been satisfied enough with showing his and Helmeppo's training in after credits scenes as a nod to the original cover story instead. As it stands the hamfisted way they inserted these characters in the romance dawn saga feels unnecessary considering they don't impact anything in the story, everything would play out the same without them, we know that because that's actually how it goes in the original.

    • @loelldebach8450
      @loelldebach8450 4 години тому

      ​@tubguinace it was more so because of budget. If you notice, all the garp and koby scenes are in the ship in garps office. It's just a B plot made to save on budget while also having an interesting 2nd story

  • @reithecs
    @reithecs 17 годин тому +5

    Honestly I had 2 things that I didnt like it was that Nojiko didnt know making the tattoos irrelevant and the whole flashback scene.
    I didnt like that they didnt just use a shot of Nojiko holding a bundled up (fake) baby and later just making a shot of "the baby revealed" and showing a smiling baby.
    Because I found that in the anime it was very impactful.
    a soldier accepting dying on the battlefield, finds two kids, one being a toddler who was carrying a baby she found in her war destroyed home and that baby still being able to smile, making both thr soldier and toddler feel hopeful for the future.
    Its hard to explain. Hope I made sense.
    Also great video!!

  • @Kabra2012
    @Kabra2012 8 годин тому +5

    I loved the Live Action, but I would say Arlong Park is where I have the bulk of my criticisms (the other being the general handling of Usopp).
    Now that Crocodile has been confirmed, I'm especially critical of how the Luffy/Arlong matchup deviated from the page. Luffy is meant to be an overwhelming monster throughout East Blue - it's that characterization that makes Crocodile feel like such an immense presence (and in turn, makes The Grand Line feel like such a dangerous zone). I have other criticisms as well, but going forward into the story this will be probably my biggest one especially in hindsight

    • @NoseHasEyes
      @NoseHasEyes  3 години тому

      One thing that the live action did well is to promote Arlong as a big villain. The seasonal element of the live action allowed him to roam around the East Blue and make it known that he's a threat. Crocodile is such a menacing figure in the early days of One Piece and manages to carry that presence even to this day. I have a high hopes for the next season. I already have one big concern which is how they presented in a casting call that Ms. Golden Week as a psycho but they seem to be making changes to management that I already like such as the decision to stop at Drum Island and more freedom with the writing post strike.

  • @spiderweebmiles3818
    @spiderweebmiles3818 5 годин тому +4

    People exagerate with live action Ussop. He has been in circles for decades so I see no problem he didnt shine in his own arc since he has more oportunities to grow as a character later THAN canon. Also, he beat a pirate commander meanwhile Zoro didnt fight a Arlong commander so his feat is more valuable in live action. Last thing to add is that Kuurobi can take Hachi role in Sabaody, Both are exchangable characters. It just happened Hachi looked more sympathic due to his comic relief role. I agree with you with Strawhats getting sidelined in pro of Coby/Garp storyline.

  • @pranavchopra_0075
    @pranavchopra_0075 3 дні тому +9

    I agree that arlong park in live action didn't have the same impact as the manga/anime, live action was pretty fun and I actually did enjoy garp's early introduction, but I do definitely agree that it lacked the emotional brevity that the original had.
    That scene is what sold me on one piece so it was a bit disappointing to see it not living up to its peak
    Good video btw, editing and voice over work was pretty solid

    • @NoseHasEyes
      @NoseHasEyes  3 дні тому +2

      Thank you :) One Piece is definitely way too big for a live action to adapt every single plot point which is why I get confused why a lot of the heart of early One Piece is sidelined in favor of more Garp screentime. His scene with Zeff fit really well with their characters

    • @JOYBOYTEO
      @JOYBOYTEO 13 годин тому +1

      Well the don’t have worry about that the person who pushed the marine Grap plot line Steven Meyeda co-showrunner , pissed off matt Owen the main show runner by still promoting the show during actors like ( and this same guy who try to compare luffy to Kalmela Harris is similar to him 😂) has been just pushed to executive producer so we don’t have put up with his input anymore

  • @beanzaru
    @beanzaru 7 годин тому +5

    Tbh a big part that drastically affected Arlong Park was the fact their original plan was 10 episodes, meaning the arc would've been 3 episodes (so like almost 3 hours) and the versions of episodes 7 and 8 we got were incomplete.
    Matt Owens has actually mentioned that they didn't get to finish the edit for those episodes due to the writing stirkes at the time and alot of Usopp/Sanji heavy scenes were unfortunately lost. He was surprised when the actual episode came out that things were just gone.

    • @beanzaru
      @beanzaru 6 годин тому +1

      Sesson 2 ending on Drum Island was actually a push by Matt to essentially slow thr pacing down because Netflix WANTED them to end big with Alabasta for S2 but he didn't want to butcher the story.

    • @tubguinace
      @tubguinace 4 години тому

      Thing is, they could have had so much more time to focus on the Straw Hats if they didn't insert Garp early into the story. He doesn't even do anything of any real impact until the very end, most of the time he's just standing around planning to chase after Luffy as Koby looks nervous.

    • @beanzaru
      @beanzaru Годину тому

      @@tubguinace I'd argue they'd still need 3 episodes for Arlong atleast. The Garp stuff was a good idea in theory but executed very poorly. It was an idea suggested by the OTHER (former) showrunner, Steven Maeda, who's more of a TV producer first, One Piece fan second. He pushed for it because he thought it would be good for this version of the series.
      But he's now left showrunning season 2 to his partner, Matt Owens, who we know is a One Piece super fan.

  • @StrawHatKaitlin
    @StrawHatKaitlin 3 дні тому +4

    I enjoyed the One Piece live action and appreciate it as an introduction to the series for people who are hesitant to start due to One Piece's length. However, I completely agree with everything you said about Arlong Park in the live action and the portrayal of Usopp. Honestly, Usopp is my favorite character in the entire series and how he was sidelined in the live action is my biggest complaint, so I'm glad it's something that you covered. Can't wait to see more comentary from you!

    • @NoseHasEyes
      @NoseHasEyes  3 дні тому

      Thank you so much ❤! I do think the live action works best to reel in new viewers into the series and was never meant to be a substitute. Usopp has grown on me over time and his moment in Arlong Park made me start appreciating his character.

  • @theassortedhobbyist
    @theassortedhobbyist 13 годин тому +3

    As much as I liked the live-action adaptation of One Piece, I feel like the last two episodes kind of dropped the ball in its storytelling. It’s clear that the staff wanted to try something new with the Arlong Park Arc and I would’ve been interested to see how these changes could've played out if it was given the time and space to develop. However, this version desperately needed more than two episodes to create the story it wanted to tell. Episode 7 and the first half of 8 pulls all the stops to delve more into Arlong and his crew’s prejudice against humans and attempt a new take on Nami’s mission to save the village, but the pacing doesn’t facilitate the strengths this version could’ve had because of the episodes provided and how they are paced out. As much as I’m enjoying the performances of everyone in this cast (absolutely love how the “Help me” sequence was shot and performed), the structure of the writing pales in comparison to both the original manga and previous episodes in this season.
    The Arlong Park episodes could've been 1 to 1 from the manga but condensed and I think I would've preferred that because in that case, it still would've given new audiences a hint of what made this story special in the manga and anime. Instead, this production attempted to make some tweaks and changes for a new rendition of a familiar story that might've been interesting and worthwhile to see, but was unfortunately squandered by the amount of episodes the production crew was given to work with.

    • @NoseHasEyes
      @NoseHasEyes  13 годин тому

      The writing strikes really interfered with the production. While I was working on the video, information was disclosed by Matt Owens is that they filmed Usopp struggling against Chew but was cut out. The writers couldn't make any changes and cooperate with the editors because of the strike. I can't believe I'm saying this about One Piece at all but this arc was paced way too fast to really explore more about the village and other characters. I do kinda wish they did 1 to 1 to emphasize why One Piece is so special but that also defeats the purpose of the adaptation. One or two more episodes could have really helped this adaptation.

  • @colin4839
    @colin4839 9 годин тому +2

    the only thing this adaptation did right was not disrespecting the source material. otherwise its a pretty meh show. but at least it made new people read/watch one piece

  • @nice2173
    @nice2173 13 годин тому +2

    Nice ❤

  • @Gottzchalk
    @Gottzchalk 2 години тому +1

    Adapting any show perfectly is not possible. I respect unlike most this series keeps the spirit of the original alive. Remember the anime gives us some different and so does the live action. New and old fans can enjoy different versions. Yet your correct Usopp is the weakest character. I will say, Emily Rudd did the best job. Her portrayal of Nami became more realistic, likable, but she still hit that treacherous lovable character. I agree, that Luffy is not the same in live-action; instead, Inaki gives him a more mature vibe. Anime Luffy’s aloofness makes him unique. I miss that he just knows what to do. I appreciate your analysis and it be great if the second season went further with the source material.

  • @2ndKidd
    @2ndKidd 5 годин тому +1

    OPLA is impressive. In fact, it's actually kinda outstanding. But it's definitely not without its flaws and the most glaring one was Arlong Park. As fans, it's understandable WHY, but if it becomes a common occurrence (the watering down of characters and plots for the worse) I don't think OPLA will be able to stay for very long. BUT if they fix those mistakes (shortening some things for time constraints but making it well and not just rushed and watered down), the mistakes can be easily overlooked. And I think that's the formula they need to keep going with for this truly "impossible to adapt" show.
    (Dude, even you recapping what they missed about Arlong Park and the villagers, and Nami's helplessness and the fundamental reason why she could do nothing else but stab her tattoo as an insult to Arlong made me tear up. That shit just HITS and none of it was in OPLA)

  • @dtcharo
    @dtcharo 7 годин тому +1

    Arlong Park set an impossibly high bar that a show with OPLA's budget just wasn't equipped to handle. They did what they could and it was done rather well despite the flaws you pointed out but I must say the scene with Inaki and Rudd was absolutely fantastic. I discovered One Piece back in the summer of '03 and Arlong Park is still my favorite arc. I never would have imagined a One Piece live action let being made let alone it being able to capture the essence that was in the anime/manga but it was great. I'm hoping that season 2 can build on the momentum of season 1 and improve even further. I'm cautiously optimistic.

  • @Jaselovesegirls
    @Jaselovesegirls 8 годин тому +1

    “They porded ga salen on it” unsubscribes “just kidding “ subscribes

  • @minisnakali
    @minisnakali 3 години тому +1

    The one thing that really annoyed me with the live action is that they changed things around Nami and her foster family, she literally died reaffirming the girls were her daughters, and they didn't do it justice at all. I don't care about the race swap I care they took out what made it so significant.

  • @rollysuaiso7811
    @rollysuaiso7811 5 годин тому +1

    Nojikos tattoos made no sense in the live action. In the manga, she had tattoos so that Nami won't feel bad about her arlong tattoo. I like one piece for little things like this.

  • @elliottpierce9823
    @elliottpierce9823 5 годин тому +1

    I never started watching One Piece for the world building or fights. It always had these scenes with unbelievable writing. Little scenes like Luffy purposing fighting Koby, Luffy not giving 2 shits about Nami's flashback, the whole idea of putting your life on the line. And I don't think a lot of fans even notice it, hence why the shoe runners might have not noticed these moments.

    • @tubguinace
      @tubguinace 3 години тому

      @@elliottpierce9823 There are so many little details in this arc that the live action series didn't pay attention to, one of the things that always gets me about this arc is the reveal that the reason Genzo wears a pinwheel on his hat is because he looked too scary for Nami as a baby without it, the symbolism that comes with the image of him leaving the pinwheel in Bell-mere's grave is so powerful, it's this bitter sweet admission that Nami has now grown into a woman and no longer needs him to look after her.
      But that detail was completely absent in the Live Action version, he never wears a pinwheel at all in the first place, I suspect they cut it because he'd look silly, but that's kind of the entire point, it was the most disappointing part for me.

  • @HiroIndo16
    @HiroIndo16 8 хвилин тому

    I'm glad someone else agrees with me; Usopp has been RIDICULOUSLY shelved. his arc was heavily tilted to Zoro, no mention of his father, his moments with Kaya was stolen and given to Nami (a NOBODY to Kaya), his moments fighting with Chu was butchered, he feels like ATLA's Sokka. all poise no substance.

  • @CassidyDylyn
    @CassidyDylyn 33 хвилини тому

    Tip: The anime isn't "source material". A fair portion of cuts you're talking about in this video were additions made by another adaptation.

  • @syystomu
    @syystomu 50 хвилин тому

    Glad to hear other people had misgivings about the Netflix series too, I felt like I was going crazy when it came out and everybody seemed to think it was nearly perfect

  • @KegaB3
    @KegaB3 2 години тому

    listen i think, all things considered, too long park- ahem... excuse me, arlong** park was as good as they possibly could have done considering that they were intending to have 2 more episodes exclusively FOR alrong park.

  • @dimoned123
    @dimoned123 Годину тому

    I am always thought that when nami said “you don’t know what’s going on here” it might’ve been referring to Nami deal with arlong sense in this version, Nobody knows about it other than her and arlong, but even then I do agree that they should’ve changed luffy line.

  • @drinkwater.10
    @drinkwater.10 2 години тому

    One thing that's also making me kinda going "ehhhh" is when Matt said in one of the interview about trying to convince Oda for them to do certain scenes.
    Now I think if they have to keep trying to convince Oda, Something is wrong here. I get they have to adapt stuff, but there are some things Oda designed it to be the way that it is.
    Again, this came out because Oda approved it, but it's a bit questionable when they have to convince Oda few times about doing certain scenes that Oda probably didn't agree with when they introduce the concept to him.
    I don't know what these particular scene is, but yeah. In season 2, if Oda says no, they should rework it instead of trying to convince him to do what he didn't like.

  • @personthingy_
    @personthingy_ 4 години тому

    I feel like my problem with Luffy is that he isn’t selfish, so he doesn’t do things for himself while occasionally helping others because he wants too. It feels like he HAS to help others and hes just very kid-like

  • @tregnirit1278
    @tregnirit1278 9 хвилин тому

    my main problem whit it was they changed the villigers viwe on nami and later fin out what she did for them to me one of the best parts in the original was when we finde out the villigers knew all along

  • @profiesx
    @profiesx Годину тому

    the live action is a 4/10 at best which is 100x better than I expected but the best thing it did was make me reread the manga

  • @fa6805
    @fa6805 7 годин тому

    No they did not. The author has a hand in it. He said it himself, although not verbal, the producers will not put things out without his approval. It was simply a case of budget and episode count restrictions.

  • @Luwidtrap
    @Luwidtrap 9 годин тому

    Yeah that would be possible to include everything if they increase each episodes to 10 hours each. i would love that :) :)

  • @anime_world6684
    @anime_world6684 Годину тому

    The live action did so well with romance dawn, orange town, and syrub village all 3 arcs that in the original weren’t bad just lame. But once we got to the 2 great arcs live action poorly handled them and they felt pointless (I did not feel a bit of hype for zoro vs Mihawk or all of arlongpark in live action)

  • @dannysyarissy9002
    @dannysyarissy9002 4 години тому

    If only they were given 10 episodes to begin with....

  • @gtdc4685
    @gtdc4685 10 годин тому

    2:49 They could introduce him later in the series and give an explanation for why he was at Arlong park.

  • @arisparker4377
    @arisparker4377 Годину тому

    you reminded me why i love one piece, thanks for this video

  • @plotno_z_buta
    @plotno_z_buta 29 хвилин тому

    imagine if arlong gonna redeem himself instead of hachi

  • @eliasvm9554
    @eliasvm9554 7 годин тому

    Brother, Oda himself aproved every aspect and detail of the live action

  • @KlabauterManiac
    @KlabauterManiac 34 хвилини тому

    Oda is literally there guiding them.

  • @21forevergone
    @21forevergone 4 години тому

    Ngl hated it. I'm a manga and anime fan, and I'm not a fan of the changes.

  • @Luffy-e2i
    @Luffy-e2i 2 години тому

    Nah it was great

  • @اوستنثربسكتي
    @اوستنثربسكتي 5 хвилин тому

  • @dwighttibe6014
    @dwighttibe6014 19 годин тому +1

    You actually mean Oda who is hands-on to the project misunderstood his own work? okay I will watch this video to the end. and you guys want to see Garp when Iñaki Godoy is 40 years old.

  • @IcepickEvans
    @IcepickEvans 19 годин тому +2

    We don't need to preface this video with praise, for this show deserves none. It deserves instead scorn and revulsion.
    The only thing this has going for it are set and costumes designs. The actual story and characters are jokes. Random, arbitrary changes that didn't need to be made, but oh it's an adaptation do we gotta make sure we do OUR version of the series and fuck good writing or emotional scenes or character building or consistency. Just shallow fanservice and arbitrary, story and character destroying changes.