By far the worst atrocity of the live action was making Nami's village legitimately hate her guts and have her sister even try to kill her, as opposed to the manga where they knew all along and were being mean to give her a way out if she wanted to take it. Most other changes I can accept, but that one simple change was garbage and stole a major emotional moment from the live action viewers.
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The Coco conspiracy just makes the whole village look like a buncha dumbasses.
@@ColdDrink25 , I hate everything about the live action remake, and if I were suggesting new audience members to get into the series then I'd say they should either watch the East Blue Specials and One Pace, or they should watch the new anime remake, but the live action remake is a terrible way to introduce new audience members.
@@sumanthmw20if they hired the guy for the first scene, then that would be a waste of money for a decent Garp casting. I’m pretty sure they had to make use of what they contracted to pay him for one season.
Sanjis eyebrows and usopps nose because they wanted to ground the series lmao they need to not make this live action series because they totally missed the mark. Rearranging story beats and plot points and characters where they shouldn't be etc.
In my head, this is the reason why Steve Maeda was removed as a showrunner. Matt Owens did mention that he was kinda pissed that they removed Usopp's moment in his fight against Chuu...Maeda was also the one who insisted in adding Garp's plotline in the story. I believe Matt Owens wanted to stick to the actual story but it was during the pandemic where he didnt see the post editing process and someone else called the shots which is why he was a bit pissed with the decisions of the cut...i believe the cuts was mostly becoz of Maeda (my guess at least)
iirc the final cut of the show was edited in the middle of the writers strike so Matt couldn't take the helm because any input towards the final cut is considered "writing"
@@emmybee5189 yeah, he was visibly mildly upset that Usopp's scene was cut with his stream with Hassan...Maeda probably messed with the core storyline reason why he was replaced right away. Even when OPLA won an award, they barely look at each other when they went up to the stage. I believe we will be more faithful this season with Owens and Tracz
@@boredbeck man I hope that is the case, I found season 1 to be incredibly lacklustre, especially the characters. It's like they sanded off all the rough edges and gave us the "wholesome" tumblr fan art versions of the characters - but to be honest, as the lead writer Matt probably had a large hand in that. I like the guy (and the cast too) and they clearly put a lot of effort into season 1, but I came away feeling like they didn't manage to match up to what is easily the weakest part of One Piece in terms of writing. I hope season 2 leans more into the "romantic man's world" sort of tone of the first half of One Piece and lets the characters be a bit more larger than life (to be clear, I don't want them to be cartoonish, I want them be less "marvel movie wholesome". I want Nami to be greedy, not give some lazy social commentary on rich people. I want Luffy to be blunt and laidback, not a hyper self-help guru. I could go on.)
@@invalidopinion5384 Definitely, they need to make the Strawhats more morally grey, like as you Nami being greedy...but its already past that point that it would not fit her character in season 2 if she suddenly become money hungry. There were many things that bothered me too. Garp's involvement was way too much...which could've been used for ChouChou's storyline, Usopp's fleshing out, and Gin's storyline tbh (they still could've "eliminated" Krieg, but Gin's storyline was so important to Sanji's character) Also the lack of blood especially in Arlong vs Luffy was a bit of a letdown for me. Also the casting of Bellemere, Nojiko, Beckmann, Gin and Makino were misses too...just the entire Arlong Park Arc was a mess, good thing Emily's acting kinda saved it...its a bit nitpicky on my part but i also dont think the child actors conveyed the backstories well (except Sanji's)
Nojikos tattoos made no sense in the live action. In the manga, she had tattoos so that Nami won't feel bad about her arlong tattoo. I like one piece for little things like this.
On top of that, it’s a Japanese cultural thing. In Japan, tattoos are almost exclusively for the Yakuza so it’s a huge social taboo to have them.
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Nothing about One Piece makes sense, the whole setting is frivolous and inconsistent even in the manga. From the marines sending scrubs to deal with fishmen year after year to the whole village being complicit in gross child endangerment. Guy collecting weapons that won't even work on fishmen? Useless island, Nami should've just left.
The whole idea of Arlong getting away with it is the higher ups marines don’t care/don’t know/ aren’t interested in a small village like Cocoyashi. Compared to most of the East Blue forces Arlong is just too strong.
Yeah you’re an idiot who just didn’t pay attention to the story. They explicitly stated that the marines didn’t send forces strong enough to take down Arlong because it’s a small time village and they can’t afford to send forces from the grand line. On top of that, you got Nezumi taking bribes and downplaying the threat of Arlong.
One Piece's setting is ofc absurd and unrealistic, but it's not frivolous. The backstory for Nojiko's tattoo in the original is a great example of how the reader is rewarded for paying attention. An entire village letting a kid risk their life for them might not be so realistic, but that whole story makes perfect sense in a heightened and dramatic fantasy world with giant shark people. Like all fiction, you just have to buy into the setting, and so long as it's internally consistent we can suspend our disbelief at the crazier story beats. Gen stockpiling weapons makes perfect sense if you accept the story's logic. He is storing them just in case Nami's plan falls through. The weapons do actually work on fishmen if the users are strong enough. The villagers clearly aren't strong enough, which is why they place their hope in Nami and the weapons are a last, desperate resort. When the villagers resolve to use the weapons, they know they are marching to their deaths. But manly pride and honor is a huge theme in One Piece, hence why it's characters act this way and not like real people. Their actions make perfect thematic sense, which is one of the things that makes the arc so powerful. Are there any fictional stories that stand up to scrutiny when we compare them to the standards of the real world? Probably not, and it's not really that important for a story like One Piece to try and be realistic. It's just got to be dramatic and not break its own rules too obviously.
Tbh a big part that drastically affected Arlong Park was the fact their original plan was 10 episodes, meaning the arc would've been 3 episodes (so like almost 3 hours) and the versions of episodes 7 and 8 we got were incomplete. Matt Owens has actually mentioned that they didn't get to finish the edit for those episodes due to the writing stirkes at the time and alot of Usopp/Sanji heavy scenes were unfortunately lost. He was surprised when the actual episode came out that things were just gone.
Sesson 2 ending on Drum Island was actually a push by Matt to essentially slow thr pacing down because Netflix WANTED them to end big with Alabasta for S2 but he didn't want to butcher the story.
Thing is, they could have had so much more time to focus on the Straw Hats if they didn't insert Garp early into the story. He doesn't even do anything of any real impact until the very end, most of the time he's just standing around planning to chase after Luffy as Koby looks nervous.
@@tubguinace I'd argue they'd still need 3 episodes for Arlong atleast. The Garp stuff was a good idea in theory but executed very poorly. It was an idea suggested by the OTHER (former) showrunner, Steven Maeda, who's more of a TV producer first, One Piece fan second. He pushed for it because he thought it would be good for this version of the series. But he's now left showrunning season 2 to his partner, Matt Owens, who we know is a One Piece super fan.
@@tubguinaceGarp is a great addition to the story, that wraps up Koby's arc. As much as I hate what was done to Arlong Park I wouldn't want them to remove Garp storyline. It would've been better with an extra episode and without the writers strike, but not without Garp.
@@Itoyokofan Koby's arc in the original Romance Dawn saga was gathering up the courage to enlist in the Marines, that's it, I don't know why it had to be anything more than that in the Live Action remake
The live action was so much fun and I’m genuinely obsessed with it. I support the project all the way. But that also means recognizing its flaws and hoping with all my heart that they’ll listen and improve. I need it to get better in every season so it can encourage more people to read the manga or watch the anime for the complete experience. It’s my favorite story of all time and it makes me so happy to see more people connect with it. But I totally agree with your points on Luffy’s character in the LA.
@@megamonmon I’m not denying the success and greatness of the source material, but I know so many people who have started reading/watching One Piece because they loved the live action. And more people watching OP, in my opinion, is a great thing.
From a long term one piece fan - I felt the live action was missing something quite alot and i coudnt pin point exactly why. Thank you for breaking down the exact reasons I struggled to find.
I think the main reason for all of this is simply that it’s only 8 episodes you can’t compact or,like put 50 episodes into 8 one hour or so episodes you’d need to at the VERY least have 16+ episodes to make it work and much more memorable it’d give more moments where the straw are just that just being them selves
Glad to hear other people had misgivings about the Netflix series too, I felt like I was going crazy when it came out and everybody seemed to think it was nearly perfect
My biggest gripe with the live action is Usopp. I love the live action so far but MAN did they do my boy dirty, not just in terms of screen time, but in how he's actually written. In the original, Usopp's lies had a purpose; to scare off enemies, to make people happy, and to take advantage of a situation, but none of that comes through in the live-action. Instead of being an endearing character who always manages to weasle his way out when he's in over his head, he just came across as an arrogant narcissist, and i have to agree that him not getting his shit rocked in arlong park by Chu was a serious missed lesson about how seriously he needs to take being on the crew. I really hope they can course-correct his character at Little Garden before his real turning point whenever Water 7 comes around, because he genuinely went from my favorite straw hat in the anime to my most hated in the live action
Honestly I had 2 things that I didnt like it was that Nojiko didnt know making the tattoos irrelevant and the whole flashback scene. I didnt like that they didnt just use a shot of Nojiko holding a bundled up (fake) baby and later just making a shot of "the baby revealed" and showing a smiling baby. Because I found that in the anime it was very impactful. a soldier accepting dying on the battlefield, finds two kids, one being a toddler who was carrying a baby she found in her war destroyed home and that baby still being able to smile, making both thr soldier and toddler feel hopeful for the future. Its hard to explain. Hope I made sense. Also great video!!
Having Arlong rant about fishman racism was a misguided choice imo. I get that they probably wanted to add depth to his character like in the Fishman Island flashback, but it needlessly complicates this part of the story. Because now Luffy is fighting an anti-racist on the side of the racists, a problem that IS addressed in Fishman Island but CAN’T be addressed in Arlong Park because the story only works if Luffy gets to kick Arlong’s ass and not have to think about the system that put him there.
I had never thought about that. When I originally watched the LA it felt like a strange thing to add in but I couldn’t really place why I felt that way. I think getting the revelation about racism towards fishmen in Sabaody would’ve been greatly reduced if this had been in the original. And as you mentioned there is that whole fighting and anti-racist thing lol. I’m sure it made newcomers more interested in learning about fishmen. It won’t happen for a while, though, so still feels off.
They probably did that because nobody knew if they were ever even getting to that point in the show's production, so they included that as early as possible because of the depth it adds. But it will ruin the moment when Nami has to forgive the fish humans since she already knows about Arlong's reasons here. It's also already clear that not all of them are monsters.
@@marvelous9718 I thought arlong ranting about the oppression fishmen faced felt a bit weird moreso because he has always been about asserting how great fishmen are and having hin acknowledge the humans getting anything over them seems a bit out of character to me
except luffy isn't fighting an anti-racist. the whole point of what arlong represents and the message of fishman island is that any group and anyone is capable of racism. it's not just about a system to blame, it's a two-way street, those that use their bad experiences as an excuse to perpetuate it against those who did nothing wrong but are being discriminated against for the same reason they originally were proves the fishmen were no better. showing that people like arlong are no longer victims of the problem, because they chose to be the aggressors of it. implying luffy is fighting on the side of racists by standing up for the enslaved towns people of cocoyashi goes against everything the story stands for. nami and her friends/family were being oppressed for simply being humans and arlong was the one creating victims in the name of racial hatred. he was "the system". besides, luffy has never cared about someone's past, so arlong being oppressed as a kid would mean absolutely nothing to luffy if he is being a racist genocidal asshole in the present since that's what luffy judges. not what happened to you or what you did, but what you do now. so no, having arlong bring up this point early in the live action didn't change anything about the themes, if anything it reinforces oda's message that being oppressed does not give someone the right to become the oppressor, and a corrupt system does not absolve people in their choices in how they respond to it, since they can enforce that very system themselves, like arlong did.
@@awesomesauce94 great analysis, I absolutely see what you’re saying. I don’t know if op would’ve meant “Luffy fighting an anti-racist” thing as Luffy caring for his backstory or anything (at least I didn’t see it that way), but more as the writing accidentally implying something that they shouldn’t. I do still feel like it’s a bit early since we won’t meet any other fishmen for a long while. But again I do really like your explanation. It works in a way, still not a big fan of it because I feel like there would’ve been no chance to flesh that out at this point in the story.
The one thing that really annoyed me with the live action is that they changed things around Nami and her foster family, she literally died reaffirming the girls were her daughters, and they didn't do it justice at all. I don't care about the race swap I care they took out what made it so significant.
I loved the Live Action, but I would say Arlong Park is where I have the bulk of my criticisms (the other being the general handling of Usopp). Now that Crocodile has been confirmed, I'm especially critical of how the Luffy/Arlong matchup deviated from the page. Luffy is meant to be an overwhelming monster throughout East Blue - it's that characterization that makes Crocodile feel like such an immense presence (and in turn, makes The Grand Line feel like such a dangerous zone). I have other criticisms as well, but going forward into the story this will be probably my biggest one especially in hindsight
One thing that the live action did well is to promote Arlong as a big villain. The seasonal element of the live action allowed him to roam around the East Blue and make it known that he's a threat. Crocodile is such a menacing figure in the early days of One Piece and manages to carry that presence even to this day. I have a high hopes for the next season. I already have one big concern which is how they presented in a casting call that Ms. Golden Week as a psycho but they seem to be making changes to management that I already like such as the decision to stop at Drum Island and more freedom with the writing post strike.
I think Crocodile can still top arlong, especially as he's very different, due to his character being more calculating and more of a chessmaster, plus he'll have more opportunities to fight to show that he's way more dangerous than arlong. I have faith. c:
My biggest gripe with the live action Luffy is the direction they went with his characteristics, they wanted someone relatable but Luffy is in no way relatable. That's supposed to be what makes him unique among an infinite amount of modern MC's, he is wacky, unpredictable and constantly switches between laughing his ass off and raging. My guess is that the production doesn't have enough faith in that what Oda had created would be appreciated and understood in of itself. And as you say, what makes One Piece is in many ways the villagers and the scope of each island that paints a picture of a huge and rich world but they fumbled that entirely for monetary reasons by sidelining all locals and narrowing each island to basically one single set. Not to mention excluding the dangers of the sea with the whirlpool, scurvy and sea monsters such as Momoo. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they completely cut out Laboon and Karoo.
I mean his characteristics are still there in live action too, and he is still wacky and unpredictable really. I mean they had faith and tried to create a accurate Luffy really. Not really they didn't sideline all of them but they had a limited amount of time clearly with their restraints. I mean we still the danger and storms and sea kings and stuff though. They literally can't cut out Laboon though he's too important.
There was supposed to be more scenes for the live action along park and other things like it was supposed to be 10 episodes and like usopp, usopp had that this is embarrassing I need to fight moment but it was cut sadly hopefully we’ll get the cut scenes
I could be biased since I got into One Piece because of this adaptation, but I would like to disagree with a couple things. I don’t think the adaptation “misunderstood” Arlong Park. Sure, it might have been a bit watered down, but that’s just because of the limit of 8 episodes. Also, I think the Garp plot works really well. With this show having a seasonal structure, I think it would’ve been wrong to introduce Koby for one episode then never have him pop up again. Great video though, I definitely have an even better appreciation of Arlong Park now. I also appreciate the fact that you were still respectful to those that enjoyed the live action, instead of calling it objectively inferior.
Thank you! :D I'm really happy to hear that you got into One Piece because of the adaptation. Seeing people get into the series always makes me happy and it's nice to see them have a different perspective on the series. I do think there are some merits to the Garp b-plot such as using the marine powers to command the Warlords to compensate for the lack of Baratie and allowing viewers to get to know Koby before he returns much later in the series. I went into the adaptation, treating it as a standalone project but comparisons can sometimes be killer of fun lol
They should have just turned this into movies since a 2-3 hour film spanning the length of the MCU each getting over a 200 million budget would have been far better of a choice to do! The manga and SBS is literally their storyboard and script!
@@DANCERcow they already had to cut a lot of stuff for 8 hours of content, how do you want to cramp everything in a film? How many films? Keep in mind it takes at least 3 years for a 3hr film and around 2 years for a 8hr season.
I don't understand why it would be wrong for Koby to be introduced and never pop up again just because this is a seasonal show. I would have been satisfied enough with showing his and Helmeppo's training in after credits scenes as a nod to the original cover story instead. As it stands the hamfisted way they inserted these characters in the romance dawn saga feels unnecessary considering they don't impact anything in the story, everything would play out the same without them, we know that because that's actually how it goes in the original.
@tubguinace it was more so because of budget. If you notice, all the garp and koby scenes are in the ship in garps office. It's just a B plot made to save on budget while also having an interesting 2nd story
Arlong Park set an impossibly high bar that a show with OPLA's budget just wasn't equipped to handle. They did what they could and it was done rather well despite the flaws you pointed out but I must say the scene with Inaki and Rudd was absolutely fantastic. I discovered One Piece back in the summer of '03 and Arlong Park is still my favorite arc. I never would have imagined a One Piece live action let being made let alone it being able to capture the essence that was in the anime/manga but it was great. I'm hoping that season 2 can build on the momentum of season 1 and improve even further. I'm cautiously optimistic.
I agree that arlong park in live action didn't have the same impact as the manga/anime, live action was pretty fun and I actually did enjoy garp's early introduction, but I do definitely agree that it lacked the emotional brevity that the original had. That scene is what sold me on one piece so it was a bit disappointing to see it not living up to its peak Good video btw, editing and voice over work was pretty solid
Thank you :) One Piece is definitely way too big for a live action to adapt every single plot point which is why I get confused why a lot of the heart of early One Piece is sidelined in favor of more Garp screentime. His scene with Zeff fit really well with their characters
Well the don’t have worry about that the person who pushed the marine Grap plot line Steven Meyeda co-showrunner , pissed off matt Owen the main show runner by still promoting the show during actors like ( and this same guy who try to compare luffy to Kalmela Harris is similar to him 😂) has been just pushed to executive producer so we don’t have put up with his input anymore
I enjoyed the One Piece live action and appreciate it as an introduction to the series for people who are hesitant to start due to One Piece's length. However, I completely agree with everything you said about Arlong Park in the live action and the portrayal of Usopp. Honestly, Usopp is my favorite character in the entire series and how he was sidelined in the live action is my biggest complaint, so I'm glad it's something that you covered. Can't wait to see more comentary from you!
Thank you so much ❤! I do think the live action works best to reel in new viewers into the series and was never meant to be a substitute. Usopp has grown on me over time and his moment in Arlong Park made me start appreciating his character.
I feel like my problem with Luffy is that he isn’t selfish, so he doesn’t do things for himself while occasionally helping others because he wants too. It feels like he HAS to help others and hes just very kid-like
I never started watching One Piece for the world building or fights. It always had these scenes with unbelievable writing. Little scenes like Luffy purposing fighting Koby, Luffy not giving 2 shits about Nami's flashback, the whole idea of putting your life on the line. And I don't think a lot of fans even notice it, hence why the shoe runners might have not noticed these moments.
@@elliottpierce9823 There are so many little details in this arc that the live action series didn't pay attention to, one of the things that always gets me about this arc is the reveal that the reason Genzo wears a pinwheel on his hat is because he looked too scary for Nami as a baby without it, the symbolism that comes with the image of him leaving the pinwheel in Bell-mere's grave is so powerful, it's this bitter sweet admission that Nami has now grown into a woman and no longer needs him to look after her. But that detail was completely absent in the Live Action version, he never wears a pinwheel at all in the first place, I suspect they cut it because he'd look silly, but that's kind of the entire point, it was the most disappointing part for me.
Yeah, all your points strike home for me. 2 small things I personally struggle with more and more are a) the Going Merry being, seemingly, a rather new ship and b) Luffy appearing to "discover" some of his moves, as if he didn't spent half of his life doing this sparring Ace, especially bad with Gum Gum Balloon. The flattening of most of the sidecast is super sad, but probably due to both time and budget (while I am no fan of the Garp b-plot, it does offer a "pushing factor" during the season - Arlong being the "pulling factor", while also being a bit of a lore dump at times and hint at the CobyMeppo coverstory. apparently this part was the last part of the script Oda greenlit, and not without a struggle and hesitantly) Afaik, there initally were 10 episodes ordered, which were late cut to 8, but afaik that primarily cut out Loguetown.
As much as I liked the live-action adaptation of One Piece, I feel like the last two episodes kind of dropped the ball in its storytelling. It’s clear that the staff wanted to try something new with the Arlong Park Arc and I would’ve been interested to see how these changes could've played out if it was given the time and space to develop. However, this version desperately needed more than two episodes to create the story it wanted to tell. Episode 7 and the first half of 8 pulls all the stops to delve more into Arlong and his crew’s prejudice against humans and attempt a new take on Nami’s mission to save the village, but the pacing doesn’t facilitate the strengths this version could’ve had because of the episodes provided and how they are paced out. As much as I’m enjoying the performances of everyone in this cast (absolutely love how the “Help me” sequence was shot and performed), the structure of the writing pales in comparison to both the original manga and previous episodes in this season. The Arlong Park episodes could've been 1 to 1 from the manga but condensed and I think I would've preferred that because in that case, it still would've given new audiences a hint of what made this story special in the manga and anime. Instead, this production attempted to make some tweaks and changes for a new rendition of a familiar story that might've been interesting and worthwhile to see, but was unfortunately squandered by the amount of episodes the production crew was given to work with.
The writing strikes really interfered with the production. While I was working on the video, information was disclosed by Matt Owens is that they filmed Usopp struggling against Chew but was cut out. The writers couldn't make any changes and cooperate with the editors because of the strike. I can't believe I'm saying this about One Piece at all but this arc was paced way too fast to really explore more about the village and other characters. I do kinda wish they did 1 to 1 to emphasize why One Piece is so special but that also defeats the purpose of the adaptation. One or two more episodes could have really helped this adaptation.
Yeah I loved the Live Action because I feel it mostly captures the spirit of One Piece but my biggest gripe (beyond the lack of Ussop) was how they took away the agency from the people of the world because it removes a lot of the nuances about the ideas of revolution and who should be the one to liberate. The whole "Luffy isn't a Hero" doesn't work if the villagers don't fight for themselves.
hey man you certainly baited me, but i appreciate your dissection and your thought process. 90 subs is INSANE. you'll have way way more soon enough if you keep up this energy
I feel like you could do this for the other 4 arcs too 😅 there were so many things that were changed or completely ignored that really affects our strawhats. Especially their relationships with LUFFY. Let’s take Baratie with Sanji and Luffy for example: 1) removing the “fighting cooks” element of Baratie which takes away the explanation on WHY Sanji is so physically strong and rids him of personality 2) him not going into a RAGE at ppl wasting food when that IS his trigger and only gets violent when the marines start first 3) Zeff demoting Sanji to waiter instead of rightfully viewing him as the Sou Chef is unnecessary 4) Sanji not seeing the fight between Zoro and Mihawk which was one of the catalysts to reviving his dream to find the All Blue 5) the fact that Sanji tells Luffy his dream the moment he meets him when in the OG, he only says it at the end of arc, AFTER seeing Luffy (and Zoro) fight for their dreams 6) OG Luffy first sees Sanji feed Gin before seeing him fight OR tasting his food as opposed to seeing him fight, eating his food, and then seeing him feed Gin (which shows OG Luffy cares about the person and not their skill) 7) the fact the LA Zeff+Sanji flashback was used to teach Luffy a lesson on being a captain and not the OG purpose of having Luffy knock sense into Sanji that Zeff didn’t sacrifice himself so that Sanji would die but for him to LIVE (something Luffy gets because he does that for Shanks). 8) that Luffy gets involved in the fight between Zeff and Sanji to begin with and even calls Zeff out for Sanji which isn’t his place is JUST NOT LUFFY 9) the way OG Luffy asks Sanji a million times to join but in LA he asks him once and somehow at the end, Sanji just agrees okay cause of Zeff lol 10) and lastly, the fact Sanji is depicted as this polite, well-adapted British dude is so just weird. Sanji is supposed to be a sassy, mean-mouthed jerk with a heart of gold. He GREW UP in what is essentially a PIRATE KITCHEN. He SPEAKS the most like a pirate compared to the rest of the crew. That’s just how he was raised. The fact he is completely vanilla-ized is so disappointing. Cause those traits are what made him so interesting in the first place. They replaced an actual pirate character with customer service stereotype 🥲 Obviously, they couldn’t do the Don Krieg fight and that’s fine. Just wish they stuck with the character points for Sanji and how Luffy and him connect. In the LA version, it’s so watered down and focused on other things (due to be squeezed in with Arlong Park).
THIS!! OPLA is good but they missed a lot specially in establishing Luffy's relationship with his crew. and i say this as someone who started OP through live action. for people who doesn't know the characters i think this will be enjoyable bc i did but after manga and anime it just fell for me. people praise LA sanji for not having gags but that's the only good thing cause LA sanji felt like he is a nice dude who is just there but manga made me cry and made me understand him enough to become a fan of him
The way luffy goes on top of the room to contemplate and doubt himself after hearing Nami's story felt so out of character. When he just got up and left, I thought that was when he was going to find Nami and do the Help Me scene
Yo, I’m just seeing this for the first time and I’m surprised that you had made a video a whole year later but I am glad that you did as it has shed and perspective on this as a Ari enemy watcher and watch the live action after that and I still thoroughly enjoyed the live action however, I appreciate you pointing out how it took out oops Character development I think it’s something that’s super important that the team should keep looking at in terms of their characters and just understand the value of what made their development so beautiful I think overall good I think a little more though
I agree with you. When I saw Arlong Park's adaptation, I was a bit disappointed... What bothered me the most was Nojiko... God, why she's so clueless and rude in netflix adaptation? She was pretty sensible, Bell-mère itself said it in the anime, so, even if they wanted to make her not know at first, at least they could have made her a little suspicious, unable to hate her sister, idk... I think Nami's past is even more shoking and hurting when you see at the begining no one seems to gives a f*** for her, than when you see them despising her instead, and I think that because here in Spain we have a proverb: "There is no greater contempt than not giving appreciation", which means that the indifference of someone hurts you more than their hate for you. Not to mantion indifference makes you stay, because "maybe you can fix it", but hate makes you give up and go on eventually, makes you stop caering for them too. And in this case, the indifference makes it hard not only for her, who thinks everyone hates her, but for all Kokoyashi's residents, who only can care and root for her in silence. In the anime, I LOVED when Genzo revealed that ALL the village know about Nami's true intentions but they was pretending to don't know, and it makes perfectly sence, it makes it bittersweet, seing how they were preppered to give up their lifes if she decided to run away from Arlong... Tbh, I loved Nojiko in the anime, but I kinda feel rejection to her in the live action... If only she would have been written a bit more clever, sensible... And with that touch, you know... the way she seems carefree and friendly, and she smiles a lot when talking, and cares a lot for others, but she can be serious and brave when she has to be... you know? the original Nojiko reminds me a lot to Bell-mère, in fact... And I decided to "ignore" it, along with some other changes, because I was so hyped, because at the end of the day they're doing a great job (specially comparing it with other anime adaptations), because the actors are sooo good, and because it has the approval of Oda... But in the anime, I felt Arlong Park as a peak, and that doesn't happened with the live action... The anime still makes me cry if I rewatch that arc, but the live action doesn't gived me the same feeling, and in fact, now I'm wondering if some tears came to my eyes watching it because of the anime nostalgia, because even the "Nami stabing her arm" scene is lacking "drama" to my taste... It's basically what you said about that scene, you explaned it perfectly. And I can't fake those feelings, no matter how fan I am of One Piece and how much I wish it to continue.
People exagerate with live action Ussop. He has been in circles for decades so I see no problem he didnt shine in his own arc since he has more oportunities to grow as a character later THAN canon. Also, he beat a pirate commander meanwhile Zoro didnt fight a Arlong commander so his feat is more valuable in live action. Last thing to add is that Kuurobi can take Hachi role in Sabaody, Both are exchangable characters. It just happened Hachi looked more sympathic due to his comic relief role. I agree with you with Strawhats getting sidelined in pro of Coby/Garp storyline.
OPLA is impressive. In fact, it's actually kinda outstanding. But it's definitely not without its flaws and the most glaring one was Arlong Park. As fans, it's understandable WHY, but if it becomes a common occurrence (the watering down of characters and plots for the worse) I don't think OPLA will be able to stay for very long. BUT if they fix those mistakes (shortening some things for time constraints but making it well and not just rushed and watered down), the mistakes can be easily overlooked. And I think that's the formula they need to keep going with for this truly "impossible to adapt" show. (Dude, even you recapping what they missed about Arlong Park and the villagers, and Nami's helplessness and the fundamental reason why she could do nothing else but stab her tattoo as an insult to Arlong made me tear up. That shit just HITS and none of it was in OPLA)
they didn’t misunderstand it. they understood it well. it was just cut down a lot due to the writer and actor’s strikes. Matt Owens, the show runner and writer for the series (the one keeping it going) said that because of the writers strikes that he legally couldn’t be there in the editing room for the last two episodes. he said there’s a significant portion of content filmed for arlong park and he isn’t sure what happened and why it was cut down so short. he said this on Hasan’s stream. this won’t be a problem in later seasons.
@@Jdudec367 I think he means that these two arcs were also not well adapted which I have also issues with. They removed a lot of stuff and sidelined Usopp so bad.
Adapting any show perfectly is not possible. I respect unlike most this series keeps the spirit of the original alive. Remember the anime gives us some different and so does the live action. New and old fans can enjoy different versions. Yet your correct Usopp is the weakest character. I will say, Emily Rudd did the best job. Her portrayal of Nami became more realistic, likable, but she still hit that treacherous lovable character. I agree, that Luffy is not the same in live-action; instead, Inaki gives him a more mature vibe. Anime Luffy’s aloofness makes him unique. I miss that he just knows what to do. I appreciate your analysis and it be great if the second season went further with the source material.
One thing that's also making me kinda going "ehhhh" is when Matt said in one of the interview about trying to convince Oda for them to do certain scenes. Now I think if they have to keep trying to convince Oda, Something is wrong here. I get they have to adapt stuff, but there are some things Oda designed it to be the way that it is. Again, this came out because Oda approved it, but it's a bit questionable when they have to convince Oda few times about doing certain scenes that Oda probably didn't agree with when they introduce the concept to him. I don't know what these particular scene is, but yeah. In season 2, if Oda says no, they should rework it instead of trying to convince him to do what he didn't like.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, I was so upset after watching the live action and feeling all the love for the story gone, to then find absolutely everyone everywhere praising it, I lost all hope and thought I was mad.
12:40 - actually, just to point out, fishman island is where luffy realises he kinda DOES need to know the history of the places he saves, wano and dressrosa are great at showing this. its a great way to show how luffy needs to keep growing in this show
I DO NOT LIKE the characterization of the live action characters Not that im sayin' the casting is bad, because that was immaculate but like how the characters acted was horrid With nami and zoro being 5 times as serious as theu usually are 💀
They misunderstood a lot more than Arlong Park, Luffy is a COMPLETELY different character, at some points I legit thought I was getting trolled with how much he acted like the complete opposite of Luffy in the manga.
@@cheggtea Luffy robbing Koby of his growth in the first episode, he made up a lie and said Koby insulted. Alvida which never happened, and he forces him to tell him his dream, by this point in the manga Koby had already grown and “fought” back against Alvida and was later prepared to die, but in the LA he was the same scared dweeb with no confidence to even chase his dream. Other moments include berating Kuro about what it means to be a pirate and that his piracy is “wrong”, when in the manga he was telling him he’s a coward for abandoning that life, and telling nami he was a “different pirate” when luffy never tells anyone how to feel about him, he lets them decide for themselves. Another moment that isn’t really acting opposite but shows a misunderstanding of Luffy’s character is when Nami was talking about stealing the merry, you can tell the writers think he’s a kid because that’s how he’s treated. The stealing part isn’t really the problem since I can see Luffy not wanting to steal what would be their home, but the reason he gives is stupid, he says it’s wrong to steal.
Honestly, the only episodes I truly enjoyed in the live action were the 1st that adapted the romance dawn arc, and 5 & 6 that adapted Baratie. I had issues with how Matt Owens chose to adapt the arcs in every other episode. 🤷🏾♂️
I think it is just so hard to adapt these things and maintain the consistency from medium to medium. I think the important part is the OPLA serves its purpose. Its entertaining. its cool to see all of our favorite characters, places, and plot lines in a live action environment. And it most importantly gets ppl into one piece. I am curious to see if the further leniency from netflix, as Oda has pointed out, will help compensate for the even more complex stuff coming up in the story.
@@Goji1954_minuszeronnnnah i dont think you can lol Garp is handled completely differently as they basically replace a huge part of his character, hachi is completely left out, usopp does almost nothing to prove himself to luffy or the viewers during his introduction arc, and the list goes on lol One piece live action is impressive dont get me wrong, but certain details make it an experience that just doesn't work as well as the anime or manga.
@@Goji1954_minuszero I don’t think that the live action is better than the manga but it’s 100% not as bad as some people say it is, it just handled the story differently, and yes in a worse way than the manga did, but still in a good, enjoyable way.
It pisses me off so much that arlong park is destroyed for some unnecessary scene of grap . The fact that one most important and longest arc of East blue saga is watered down to one episode and even that episode there where 10 mins of unnecessary garp scene
the only thing this adaptation did right was not disrespecting the source material. otherwise its a pretty meh show. but at least it made new people read/watch one piece
I'll still never get the people who only watch live action shows. I mean I'm glad people liked it but it annoys me on how much they're missing out. They really have no clue.
changes were mostly alright, but they did VERY bad changes especially in arlong park. first of, luffy & zorro outscale EVERYONE (except people like garp and mihawk ofc) they encountered in the east blue. taking away scenes like arlong being shocked to see zorros scar and realizing he has to kill him asap as well as luffy playing around for all of the fight ubntil he sees how nami was treated is a subtle nod to arlongs philosophie being wrong af. by downplaying the strongest strawhats like that future powerscaling will become a hot mess. they will take out tons of baroque works members in the next or in 2 episodes. Arlong being portrayed stronger as luffy makes no sense in the climax of the fight too cause its shown how in the end luffy easily overpowers arlong while breaking his saw and destroying the park. storywise, they took away lots of character moments. glad all are listed in the vid
my main problem whit it was they changed the villigers viwe on nami and later fin out what she did for them to me one of the best parts in the original was when we finde out the villigers knew all along
I would personally recommend that Netflix's One Piece should be seen as an AU version of the story, instead of a failed attempt at a shot-for-shot remake of the original version. Don't forget, Oda himself is executive producer, which means he gets to oversee whatever changes are made by Netflix. If changes are made now that will affect the plot later down the line, I'm sure Oda will have something in place to help the changes gel into their own unique story.
I agree, and it's not just this arc. Live action doesn't really do justice to ANY of the core themes of the story. Doesn't mean it's not a good show standing on its own, but in terms of adaption, it just isn't one piece. Everything feels flat.
i think they stole a lot of story beats from later in the story to make the season a nicely wrapped up package if no further seasons gets made, but then it takes away major points that should've had more time
While watching it back then I always thought Garp appeared already so early because they tried to give him the role Smoker had in the story and basically fused both of them, live action Garp is also way more serious than his anime counterpart and screamed Smoker to me. It would make kinda sense if they tried to shorten the story line that way by fusing 2 characters with similiar purposes into one. But then the live action show ended with a teaser for Smoker in the next season, which makes the way Garp was handled not make much sense. I guess they couldn't afford Luffy's grandfather to also be a silly goober?
If I’m not wrong according to Matt Owen’s, I think they weren’t able to finish the season off how they wanted because of the writers strike. Hopefully next season improves.
I am always thought that when nami said “you don’t know what’s going on here” it might’ve been referring to Nami deal with arlong sense in this version, Nobody knows about it other than her and arlong, but even then I do agree that they should’ve changed luffy line.
Yeah right. Maybe don't add Garp this early? He (and the unneeded Coby's arc) literally cut a lot of the runtime of the series. Luffy's meeting with Garp is NOT needed, the reason Garp comes to Luffy after Water 7 is to become a threat and become a shocking factor that he's just Luffy's grandpa. There's Smoker who becomes the threat in East Blue!!! There's a reason the anime put Coby's mini arc in Loguetown, because it was the approriate place to put it (I know it's just a cover story in the manga but still)
@@IftiharAbdillahwell it was also written originally for ten episodes and cut down to 8 for budget/netflix reasons, so maybe the original script had time for everything
@@IftiharAbdillahthey had to use garp somehow obviously like imagine paying so much money to old dude just to appear on screen for a second that such a waste of money so of course they are gonna use it also this doesn't change much of the plot
The problem with the live action for me is that ... One Piece is very long. And while many see this as a huge hurdle to get into the show, once they actually start watching it they get WHY it has to be that way. Oda loves to include so many details in his story that we just don't get in the L.A. version. As a result they have to change things and remove stuff now and later on. I get why they do it (time, money and many more reasons) but it makes me as a long time OP fan kinda not wanna watch the show... I don't even think the visuals are great so that's not a reason for me to watch neither. Also getting Luffy's identity right for me is the core of how to make an adaptation work. And at least in season 1 they did not achieve that for me yet. I'm still happy that the show exists. There seem to be much more people aware of the story now and I'm sure it also helped to convince them to make the remake. I know many people who would never ever have started with OP before and now they even think about watching the anime. It's great!
I agree with most of the Arlong Park criticisms you gave, but I feel like the Nami stabbing scene does work really well in the Live Action too. We saw Captain Nezumi casually carry away the money Nami wasted half her life on, her desperate reaction is definitely warranted. And while I do think Luffy not knowing Nami’s backstory is more powerful, his words in the Live Action still make sense. Nami says that Luffy doesn’t know anything about what’s going on. Nami, who avoided explaining her situation her entire life, needed to hear “So what if I don’t? It doesn’t matter that I know and it never will, we’re still a crew and always will be” and not “Actually, I happen to know what’s going on, thank god, and this time I can help”. “No I don’t” is the simple version of the prior and “yes I do” would have been the simple version of the latter. Even if Luffy knew part of Nami’s backstory, “No I don’t” was still a very true to Luffy emotionally intelligent response
I can get behind this interpretation where Luffy just needed to say what Nami needed to hear which is kinda the point of him being there in the first place. I still think the villagers should have played a bigger role because that still doesnt really sit well with me. I understand because of the budget but a part of One Piece is its massive scale which feels toned down (once again it is expensive and episodes were cut down). Thank you though :)
@@NoseHasEyes def agree on that part. I watched the Live Action first, and Arlong Park, especially episode 7 was still peak, but after watching the anime for the first time, I was so sad about how little Genzo was given to do in the LA. In the East Blue, we got a good trio of father figures everyone needs in their life, Shanks being the inspiration, Zeff with his discipline and Genzo for emotional support, and while we got Garp for Koby in the LA, Genzo taking a backseat really put a hole into the story. (Still really love the Live Action tho😍)
3:35 actually facts though, crazy how some people will deny that. That wound literally got *fear* into Arlong's eyes. 3:46 wtf, lol yeah anime Zoro would just turn around with his typical "Heh?" 4:40 damn, get out, WDYM he's the best. Honestly when seeing him in the intro before meeting him I disliked him a lot. But the moment we actually met him, and I heard his VA I did an immediate 180. I will say because of age, the VA is not as good anymore these days as he was but although I generally don't pick favorites, if I absolutely have to Usopp is one of them. He's your ground in reality kind of together with Nami, he's just such a *real* character. Usopp getting the absolute shit beat out of him, is such a part of the character because he's so human, he's pretty much *just a guy* he's doesn't have crazy powers or casually has an entire building drop on him like Zoro or Sanji. Despite being a normal person, and getting hurt like a normal person he always ends up "being the bravest" fighting despite his weakness and fear, and ultimately winning. He deserves his current bounty 100% You are 100% right about everything about Arlong Park though they literally *missed the point* of *a lot of it* like that's one of the main reasons I really didn't wanna watch the Live Action despite people saying it was good. Like somewhere inside, I already knew they were gonna mess all these things up and it wasn't gonna make much sense. Just sad it was actually *this much* especially the village and her sister, that's by far the worst it did. Almost all other things are just things it "missed out on" like most adaptations, it misses out on hidden depth but even the Anime does that compared to the manga sometimes. But actually making something just "that wrong" is stupid. 2nd worst offense is defenitly Luffy listening to her backstory, *Luffy skips all the flashbacks* that's basically like his whole deal, he has 0 IQ but maxed out on EQ. Anyway of course, if it gets more people into actually reading the manga or watching the anime I don't have anything against the Live Action. It's just that it ultimately can't and couldn't avoid "the problem" of all live action adaptations. It's basically just an alternate universe with different versions of the characters.
i watched the live action first but now that i'm up to date with the latest ep of the anime, i didn't even expect them to change so much of the plot, plus the east blue crew's personalities are entirely different, raging from bad (zoro) to average (luffy nami) to good (usopp, sanji). the portrayal of zoro's character is more of a time-skip zoro if anything. he's too serious whereas zoro in the animanga was more laid-back, and he only became more serious after his training with mihawk. usopp and sanji on the other hand were so GOOD. LA usopp has charisma like no other, and while animanga usopp still has that creative side that makes him shine, i hated how much of a coward he was even after post-time skip. jacob just has that effortless rizz. taz too!!! i love sanji's backstory and character, but no words can describe how much i hate sanji's perviness. they actually made him likeable in the live action, more of smooth gentleman who flirts instead of nosebleeding perv💀now, luffy on the other hand, as much as i love iñaki, he didn't quite capture luffy's true essence. luffy is unpredictable. he looks at a grisly scene and says "oh well" and shrugs as if nothing happened. he's a total airhead who can't read the room but is extremely packed with battle IQ. LA luffy is more bubbly, while he's still portrayed as an airhead, he seems to be one of those anime MCs who would beat the villain out of the power of friendship. animanga luffy is different, that's what makes him such a great shonen MC. i think the difference between them is that animanga luffy is more like "wow. you're weak." deadpan expression while picking his nose, whereas LA luffy is more like, "wow, you're weak!" biting back an awkward laugh and shaking his head. both are good but og luffy is funnier...
Genzo, Nojiko and the village in general hating Nami fr fr and not as a cover-up was a terrible change imo (though I understand the time constraints... but still, that doesn't mean I like it), and Luffy answering "you don't know anything" with "I don't" just made me go ????? immediately because him listening to the story sticking out like a sore thumb. I loved the adaptation, but some of that stuff didn't fly with me at all.
If they didn't include all the Garp stuff, they could've made Arlong Park a lot better. That and the way they portrayed the villagers and Namis sister was just not that good. Also, the way they portrayed some of the main characters ia frustrating but i get it. It's why I give the live action a 5/10. It could've been a lot better . I can see these problems following them onto season 2. I guess they're lucky a bunch of One Piece fans don't like to criticize the live action in favor of it "being one of the best live action adaptations." It's a good show, but overrated for sure. The good thing is it introduced a lot of people to the anime/manga
Agreed with your take. But given the production circumstances and Netflix’s inability to take risks like adding more episodes certainly limited how much could have been explored, so a rewrite into a completely different character dynamic was necessary. From the non fans, they thought it was amazing anyways, since the village hating on Nami was kind of foreshadowed in Syrup Village, where Nami talks about her blind hatred for pirates and rich folks, villainizing them like how her village villainized her. It was a different dynamic that is (arguably) less nuanced than the original. But for an 8 episode season they really did deliver imo
I don't think all those changes are bad, because they work for live action. Live action isnt supposed to be a copy of the original material but an adaptation. It' simply no tpossible to adapt an anime in live action and do the same thing because of limitations of budjet and time and more. I don't agree to all the moments you said "don't feel strong" is definetly the moments where every non amine watchers cried the most soooooo?? I cried so much uring this show and i feel like it's unfair to say that those moments weren't as strong or didn't had "any weight", they definetly moved a lot of people lol
The live action did so well with romance dawn, orange town, and syrub village all 3 arcs that in the original weren’t bad just lame. But once we got to the 2 great arcs live action poorly handled them and they felt pointless (I did not feel a bit of hype for zoro vs Mihawk or all of arlongpark in live action)
For how much they spent on 1 season and still ended up cutting Hachan out is flabbergasting considering how important he will become in Saobody island. The fact they removed Nami’s tattoo stabbing is such a missed opportunity for her character but what grinds my gears and makes me Know the showrunners are missing the point of one piece when they replaced the scene of Shanks and the red hair pirate confronting the bandits where lucky roo shoots the bandit after shanks iconic line. The removal of that scene alone speaks volume and how they miss/dis-regard Oda’s messaging.
A small critique I have for the live action is when Nami asked Luffy for help is that they don’t use a back up shot revealing the rest of the crew they just pan over revealing them.
they also dropped the ball HARD in baratie by skipping over Sanji. that was like the first definitive heavy hitting emotional moment in the series and they just skipped over it to get to arlong park(which they also fumbled)
I'm surprised not more people are mentioning Sanji though. I like the changes they made, that he's more flirtatious than downright perverted, and I think the actor did a great job, but I wish they would have explored his character more at the Baratie. I think a large part of why he joined in the original is from watching Zoro fight Mihawk, seeing someone fight to the death for their own dream, and having that compared to himself giving his dream up. I don't think Zeff telling him something along the lines of "giving up is staying here" should have been enough. He must have heard that several times through the years, and we weren't really shown why Sanji would listen to it this time. I feel like there was no moment that explored why he changed his mind.
I think that fight is what solidified his trust in zoro too theyre both chasing crazy dreams (although big green over there has a more tangible one). Also Sanji was kinda flirty before the timeskip it wasn't really bad until we got to thriller bark. He was more protective of women and love sick (i really miss this aspect of his character)
I’ve heard the excuse of a lack of time so many times, and it's just not true. They had two episodes, totaling 109 minutes. In contrast, look at Nami’s episode and how it perfectly conveyed the story, knowing exactly what to cut and what to keep, delivering the entire story in 105 minutes, with the first 5 minutes being an exposition of the situation from the previous saga. It’s all about making smart choices on what to focus on, and they did a pretty poor job of that, at least in this saga.
The live action had way less time than you assume because it needed to close the entire season as well as possibly the entire series in a satisfying way to convince you that you should read the manga or watch the anime if no new season follows (which was possible at this time). Most of what happens in the second half of episode 8 was likely originally planned for episode 9 and 10.
i feel like the marines are there to give us something new and different, something we don’t already know the gist of. and that creates new content for one piece enjoyers.
My biggest problem with the live action was how they pointed out the fishman racism too early. When its shown that the fish men are the oppressed race in saboady it made me have a moment of self reflection where I realized that people with a mindset like mine were the problem in the one piece world. I had seen the things they were capable of and didn't know about their history or enslavement. When I saw the live action I realized that nobody who sticks exclusively to the live action will ever have that moment and it made me a bit sad.
Luffy didn't have to listen to her back story, he knows NOTHING about what's going on. All he knows that Nami was suffering and he's going to kick some ass for making her cry. However Luffy knew that Nami was trapped by experiencing first hand what her prison looked like. When he hold the blody pen she used to draw maps over and over again, the maps piling up every where, and Arlong's words of enslaving Nami are what enraged him and cause him to deliver the final blow and destroy the entire Arlong Park with it. Luffy had his own way discovering Nami's pain and his own way in destroying it.
you put it pretty well why i think this was the weakest part of the live action. Cutting it down to 2 episodes just meant we lost too much of what made the arc great.
i agree with most of what you said. the LA was good very good the best anime to live action ive seen apart from the kingdom movies but theres no denying that they cut a lot and changed some things which ultimatly made the story watered down and altered that said i think they did a good enough job to hold ppls interest so they can watch the anime or read the manga where its way better. theres no denying that compared to the anime and manga the LA is inferior but that doesnt make it bad it may be worse than the original but its still One Piece at heart so i think its ok. i also felt zoro was a little too edgy and not as goofy as he was but its an ok change for me goofy doesnt work well in LA and itd be hard to make a stoic goofy character work irl. here ill even add something that i think they did better in the LA BUGGYS actor freaking crushed it i actually like buggy in the LA and hes a little scary hes basically a joke in the anime which i like but i never took him seriously in the LA i was like yeah he did an excellent job. also i liked the changes to the syrup village arc but i do not like a lot of the changes in arlong park although some are good making the park and actual park was a great idea the walk to arlong park however is just not THAT moment it was in the anime and the nami scene while it was ok she didnt quite nail it it felt fake to me that scene made me cry in the anime but nothing for the LA bc it feels so fake i cant believe its real but at least its accurate so i excused it. anyway the LA was good great even but compared to the anime and manga its just not that good kinda like how the manga will always be better than the anime the anime will always be better than the LA.
I personally didn't like the live action , and just so you know I am a big one piece fan , it's number 1 for me in story for fantasy. I didnt like the changes , and I don't know if oda did them or Netflix but it's not right . And i know many are gonna hate me but only animation can achieve a emotional impact due to its style . When I see live action I can see through the acting and it's cringes me . Well that's it 😅😊
Humans will never imitate anime's charm. Your opinion is actually true and I feel the same way, but changes is necessary so it will be appealing to other audience. It serves as intro to know what the fuck is this One Piece show and why many people are obsessed with it? I actually prepared myself about the changes they made before watching the show, I know they will hit different from me since I've been watching anime since when I was a kid. I just hope they will improve more if possible.
If you had a 6 min song and they offered a 2 minute spot on the radio, how would you keep the essence? It’s already so hard to cut 30 seconds. I can’t imagine how hard it must of been for a series like this, so all in all I think they did a good job and introduced new fans to the series.
By far the worst atrocity of the live action was making Nami's village legitimately hate her guts and have her sister even try to kill her, as opposed to the manga where they knew all along and were being mean to give her a way out if she wanted to take it. Most other changes I can accept, but that one simple change was garbage and stole a major emotional moment from the live action viewers.
The Coco conspiracy just makes the whole village look like a buncha dumbasses.
im so glad you hated this change. nothing gives me more joy than to see the agony of others
@@ColdDrink25 , I hate everything about the live action remake, and if I were suggesting new audience members to get into the series then I'd say they should either watch the East Blue Specials and One Pace, or they should watch the new anime remake, but the live action remake is a terrible way to introduce new audience members.
Mfs really thought giving everything to the SHs would help
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr specials suck
I don't think they misunderstood; we're just seeing the problem of compacting like 50 episodes into 8.
Oh yeah all those garp scenes were necessary for making it compact
@@sumanthmw20if they hired the guy for the first scene, then that would be a waste of money for a decent Garp casting. I’m pretty sure they had to make use of what they contracted to pay him for one season.
@@OrdinaryCritic they could've just not put garp in this early on for roger's execution
Sanjis eyebrows and usopps nose because they wanted to ground the series lmao they need to not make this live action series because they totally missed the mark. Rearranging story beats and plot points and characters where they shouldn't be etc.
@@DANCERcow mf you're tellin me you want usopp walkin around with a 3 inch sausage attached to his face?
In my head, this is the reason why Steve Maeda was removed as a showrunner.
Matt Owens did mention that he was kinda pissed that they removed Usopp's moment in his fight against Chuu...Maeda was also the one who insisted in adding Garp's plotline in the story.
I believe Matt Owens wanted to stick to the actual story but it was during the pandemic where he didnt see the post editing process and someone else called the shots which is why he was a bit pissed with the decisions of the cut...i believe the cuts was mostly becoz of Maeda (my guess at least)
iirc the final cut of the show was edited in the middle of the writers strike so Matt couldn't take the helm because any input towards the final cut is considered "writing"
@@emmybee5189 yeah, he was visibly mildly upset that Usopp's scene was cut with his stream with Hassan...Maeda probably messed with the core storyline reason why he was replaced right away.
Even when OPLA won an award, they barely look at each other when they went up to the stage.
I believe we will be more faithful this season with Owens and Tracz
@@boredbeck man I hope that is the case, I found season 1 to be incredibly lacklustre, especially the characters. It's like they sanded off all the rough edges and gave us the "wholesome" tumblr fan art versions of the characters - but to be honest, as the lead writer Matt probably had a large hand in that. I like the guy (and the cast too) and they clearly put a lot of effort into season 1, but I came away feeling like they didn't manage to match up to what is easily the weakest part of One Piece in terms of writing. I hope season 2 leans more into the "romantic man's world" sort of tone of the first half of One Piece and lets the characters be a bit more larger than life (to be clear, I don't want them to be cartoonish, I want them be less "marvel movie wholesome". I want Nami to be greedy, not give some lazy social commentary on rich people. I want Luffy to be blunt and laidback, not a hyper self-help guru. I could go on.)
@@invalidopinion5384 Definitely, they need to make the Strawhats more morally grey, like as you Nami being greedy...but its already past that point that it would not fit her character in season 2 if she suddenly become money hungry.
There were many things that bothered me too.
Garp's involvement was way too much...which could've been used for ChouChou's storyline, Usopp's fleshing out, and Gin's storyline tbh (they still could've "eliminated" Krieg, but Gin's storyline was so important to Sanji's character)
Also the lack of blood especially in Arlong vs Luffy was a bit of a letdown for me.
Also the casting of Bellemere, Nojiko, Beckmann, Gin and Makino were misses too...just the entire Arlong Park Arc was a mess, good thing Emily's acting kinda saved it...its a bit nitpicky on my part but i also dont think the child actors conveyed the backstories well (except Sanji's)
Yea
Nojikos tattoos made no sense in the live action. In the manga, she had tattoos so that Nami won't feel bad about her arlong tattoo. I like one piece for little things like this.
On top of that, it’s a Japanese cultural thing. In Japan, tattoos are almost exclusively for the Yakuza so it’s a huge social taboo to have them.
Nothing about One Piece makes sense, the whole setting is frivolous and inconsistent even in the manga.
From the marines sending scrubs to deal with fishmen year after year to the whole village being complicit in gross child endangerment.
Guy collecting weapons that won't even work on fishmen? Useless island, Nami should've just left.
The whole idea of Arlong getting away with it is the higher ups marines don’t care/don’t know/ aren’t interested in a small village like Cocoyashi. Compared to most of the East Blue forces Arlong is just too strong.
Yeah you’re an idiot who just didn’t pay attention to the story. They explicitly stated that the marines didn’t send forces strong enough to take down Arlong because it’s a small time village and they can’t afford to send forces from the grand line. On top of that, you got Nezumi taking bribes and downplaying the threat of Arlong.
One Piece's setting is ofc absurd and unrealistic, but it's not frivolous. The backstory for Nojiko's tattoo in the original is a great example of how the reader is rewarded for paying attention.
An entire village letting a kid risk their life for them might not be so realistic, but that whole story makes perfect sense in a heightened and dramatic fantasy world with giant shark people. Like all fiction, you just have to buy into the setting, and so long as it's internally consistent we can suspend our disbelief at the crazier story beats. Gen stockpiling weapons makes perfect sense if you accept the story's logic. He is storing them just in case Nami's plan falls through. The weapons do actually work on fishmen if the users are strong enough. The villagers clearly aren't strong enough, which is why they place their hope in Nami and the weapons are a last, desperate resort. When the villagers resolve to use the weapons, they know they are marching to their deaths. But manly pride and honor is a huge theme in One Piece, hence why it's characters act this way and not like real people. Their actions make perfect thematic sense, which is one of the things that makes the arc so powerful. Are there any fictional stories that stand up to scrutiny when we compare them to the standards of the real world? Probably not, and it's not really that important for a story like One Piece to try and be realistic. It's just got to be dramatic and not break its own rules too obviously.
Tbh a big part that drastically affected Arlong Park was the fact their original plan was 10 episodes, meaning the arc would've been 3 episodes (so like almost 3 hours) and the versions of episodes 7 and 8 we got were incomplete.
Matt Owens has actually mentioned that they didn't get to finish the edit for those episodes due to the writing stirkes at the time and alot of Usopp/Sanji heavy scenes were unfortunately lost. He was surprised when the actual episode came out that things were just gone.
Sesson 2 ending on Drum Island was actually a push by Matt to essentially slow thr pacing down because Netflix WANTED them to end big with Alabasta for S2 but he didn't want to butcher the story.
Thing is, they could have had so much more time to focus on the Straw Hats if they didn't insert Garp early into the story. He doesn't even do anything of any real impact until the very end, most of the time he's just standing around planning to chase after Luffy as Koby looks nervous.
@@tubguinace I'd argue they'd still need 3 episodes for Arlong atleast. The Garp stuff was a good idea in theory but executed very poorly. It was an idea suggested by the OTHER (former) showrunner, Steven Maeda, who's more of a TV producer first, One Piece fan second. He pushed for it because he thought it would be good for this version of the series.
But he's now left showrunning season 2 to his partner, Matt Owens, who we know is a One Piece super fan.
@@tubguinaceGarp is a great addition to the story, that wraps up Koby's arc. As much as I hate what was done to Arlong Park I wouldn't want them to remove Garp storyline. It would've been better with an extra episode and without the writers strike, but not without Garp.
@@Itoyokofan Koby's arc in the original Romance Dawn saga was gathering up the courage to enlist in the Marines, that's it, I don't know why it had to be anything more than that in the Live Action remake
The live action was so much fun and I’m genuinely obsessed with it. I support the project all the way. But that also means recognizing its flaws and hoping with all my heart that they’ll listen and improve.
I need it to get better in every season so it can encourage more people to read the manga or watch the anime for the complete experience.
It’s my favorite story of all time and it makes me so happy to see more people connect with it. But I totally agree with your points on Luffy’s character in the LA.
One piece is one of the most successful and popular manga of all time, it doesnt need a worse version to be made to get people to watch it
@@megamonmon I’m not denying the success and greatness of the source material, but I know so many people who have started reading/watching One Piece because they loved the live action. And more people watching OP, in my opinion, is a great thing.
@@xmetalgamerximagine a better version
The acting was so cringe
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From a long term one piece fan - I felt the live action was missing something quite alot and i coudnt pin point exactly why. Thank you for breaking down the exact reasons I struggled to find.
I think the main reason for all of this is simply that it’s only 8 episodes you can’t compact or,like put 50 episodes into 8 one hour or so episodes you’d need to at the VERY least have 16+ episodes to make it work and much more memorable it’d give more moments where the straw are just that just being them selves
Glad to hear other people had misgivings about the Netflix series too, I felt like I was going crazy when it came out and everybody seemed to think it was nearly perfect
My biggest gripe with the live action is Usopp. I love the live action so far but MAN did they do my boy dirty, not just in terms of screen time, but in how he's actually written. In the original, Usopp's lies had a purpose; to scare off enemies, to make people happy, and to take advantage of a situation, but none of that comes through in the live-action. Instead of being an endearing character who always manages to weasle his way out when he's in over his head, he just came across as an arrogant narcissist, and i have to agree that him not getting his shit rocked in arlong park by Chu was a serious missed lesson about how seriously he needs to take being on the crew. I really hope they can course-correct his character at Little Garden before his real turning point whenever Water 7 comes around, because he genuinely went from my favorite straw hat in the anime to my most hated in the live action
also a little detail about Usopp is that most of his lies he tells to Kaya become true in the end.
Honestly I had 2 things that I didnt like it was that Nojiko didnt know making the tattoos irrelevant and the whole flashback scene.
I didnt like that they didnt just use a shot of Nojiko holding a bundled up (fake) baby and later just making a shot of "the baby revealed" and showing a smiling baby.
Because I found that in the anime it was very impactful.
a soldier accepting dying on the battlefield, finds two kids, one being a toddler who was carrying a baby she found in her war destroyed home and that baby still being able to smile, making both thr soldier and toddler feel hopeful for the future.
Its hard to explain. Hope I made sense.
Also great video!!
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Having Arlong rant about fishman racism was a misguided choice imo. I get that they probably wanted to add depth to his character like in the Fishman Island flashback, but it needlessly complicates this part of the story.
Because now Luffy is fighting an anti-racist on the side of the racists, a problem that IS addressed in Fishman Island but CAN’T be addressed in Arlong Park because the story only works if Luffy gets to kick Arlong’s ass and not have to think about the system that put him there.
I had never thought about that. When I originally watched the LA it felt like a strange thing to add in but I couldn’t really place why I felt that way. I think getting the revelation about racism towards fishmen in Sabaody would’ve been greatly reduced if this had been in the original. And as you mentioned there is that whole fighting and anti-racist thing lol.
I’m sure it made newcomers more interested in learning about fishmen. It won’t happen for a while, though, so still feels off.
They probably did that because nobody knew if they were ever even getting to that point in the show's production, so they included that as early as possible because of the depth it adds. But it will ruin the moment when Nami has to forgive the fish humans since she already knows about Arlong's reasons here. It's also already clear that not all of them are monsters.
@@marvelous9718 I thought arlong ranting about the oppression fishmen faced felt a bit weird moreso because he has always been about asserting how great fishmen are and having hin acknowledge the humans getting anything over them seems a bit out of character to me
except luffy isn't fighting an anti-racist. the whole point of what arlong represents and the message of fishman island is that any group and anyone is capable of racism. it's not just about a system to blame, it's a two-way street, those that use their bad experiences as an excuse to perpetuate it against those who did nothing wrong but are being discriminated against for the same reason they originally were proves the fishmen were no better. showing that people like arlong are no longer victims of the problem, because they chose to be the aggressors of it.
implying luffy is fighting on the side of racists by standing up for the enslaved towns people of cocoyashi goes against everything the story stands for. nami and her friends/family were being oppressed for simply being humans and arlong was the one creating victims in the name of racial hatred. he was "the system". besides, luffy has never cared about someone's past, so arlong being oppressed as a kid would mean absolutely nothing to luffy if he is being a racist genocidal asshole in the present since that's what luffy judges. not what happened to you or what you did, but what you do now.
so no, having arlong bring up this point early in the live action didn't change anything about the themes, if anything it reinforces oda's message that being oppressed does not give someone the right to become the oppressor, and a corrupt system does not absolve people in their choices in how they respond to it, since they can enforce that very system themselves, like arlong did.
@@awesomesauce94 great analysis, I absolutely see what you’re saying. I don’t know if op would’ve meant “Luffy fighting an anti-racist” thing as Luffy caring for his backstory or anything (at least I didn’t see it that way), but more as the writing accidentally implying something that they shouldn’t.
I do still feel like it’s a bit early since we won’t meet any other fishmen for a long while. But again I do really like your explanation. It works in a way, still not a big fan of it because I feel like there would’ve been no chance to flesh that out at this point in the story.
The one thing that really annoyed me with the live action is that they changed things around Nami and her foster family, she literally died reaffirming the girls were her daughters, and they didn't do it justice at all. I don't care about the race swap I care they took out what made it so significant.
Tip: The anime isn't "source material". A fair portion of cuts you're talking about in this video were additions made by another adaptation.
This.
Not a bad video I guess, but it's interesting to me how infrequently people realize anime filler exists.
@@TheWrongRightergiggling. what?
and they’re better 😂
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Still
The lack of Usopp Hammer was so disappointing
They forgot his most powerful move
USSOP RUBBER BAND OF DOOOOM!!!!!!!
I loved the Live Action, but I would say Arlong Park is where I have the bulk of my criticisms (the other being the general handling of Usopp).
Now that Crocodile has been confirmed, I'm especially critical of how the Luffy/Arlong matchup deviated from the page. Luffy is meant to be an overwhelming monster throughout East Blue - it's that characterization that makes Crocodile feel like such an immense presence (and in turn, makes The Grand Line feel like such a dangerous zone). I have other criticisms as well, but going forward into the story this will be probably my biggest one especially in hindsight
One thing that the live action did well is to promote Arlong as a big villain. The seasonal element of the live action allowed him to roam around the East Blue and make it known that he's a threat. Crocodile is such a menacing figure in the early days of One Piece and manages to carry that presence even to this day. I have a high hopes for the next season. I already have one big concern which is how they presented in a casting call that Ms. Golden Week as a psycho but they seem to be making changes to management that I already like such as the decision to stop at Drum Island and more freedom with the writing post strike.
they started bad right on the first episode with luffy struggling against morgan
I think Crocodile can still top arlong, especially as he's very different, due to his character being more calculating and more of a chessmaster, plus he'll have more opportunities to fight to show that he's way more dangerous than arlong.
I have faith. c:
My biggest gripe with the live action Luffy is the direction they went with his characteristics, they wanted someone relatable but Luffy is in no way relatable. That's supposed to be what makes him unique among an infinite amount of modern MC's, he is wacky, unpredictable and constantly switches between laughing his ass off and raging. My guess is that the production doesn't have enough faith in that what Oda had created would be appreciated and understood in of itself.
And as you say, what makes One Piece is in many ways the villagers and the scope of each island that paints a picture of a huge and rich world but they fumbled that entirely for monetary reasons by sidelining all locals and narrowing each island to basically one single set. Not to mention excluding the dangers of the sea with the whirlpool, scurvy and sea monsters such as Momoo.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they completely cut out Laboon and Karoo.
Yea
They can't cut that out
Laboon plot line was so boring lmao, I genuinely don’t give a shit about some whale waiting for brook to play him a song.
I mean his characteristics are still there in live action too, and he is still wacky and unpredictable really. I mean they had faith and tried to create a accurate Luffy really.
Not really they didn't sideline all of them but they had a limited amount of time clearly with their restraints. I mean we still the danger and storms and sea kings and stuff though.
They literally can't cut out Laboon though he's too important.
@@screech5212 If so then it's kinda obvious that you're in no shape or form a fan of One Piece but came here to troll people.
There was supposed to be more scenes for the live action along park and other things like it was supposed to be 10 episodes and like usopp, usopp had that this is embarrassing I need to fight moment but it was cut sadly hopefully we’ll get the cut scenes
I could be biased since I got into One Piece because of this adaptation, but I would like to disagree with a couple things. I don’t think the adaptation “misunderstood” Arlong Park. Sure, it might have been a bit watered down, but that’s just because of the limit of 8 episodes. Also, I think the Garp plot works really well. With this show having a seasonal structure, I think it would’ve been wrong to introduce Koby for one episode then never have him pop up again. Great video though, I definitely have an even better appreciation of Arlong Park now. I also appreciate the fact that you were still respectful to those that enjoyed the live action, instead of calling it objectively inferior.
Thank you! :D I'm really happy to hear that you got into One Piece because of the adaptation. Seeing people get into the series always makes me happy and it's nice to see them have a different perspective on the series.
I do think there are some merits to the Garp b-plot such as using the marine powers to command the Warlords to compensate for the lack of Baratie and allowing viewers to get to know Koby before he returns much later in the series. I went into the adaptation, treating it as a standalone project but comparisons can sometimes be killer of fun lol
They should have just turned this into movies since a 2-3 hour film spanning the length of the MCU each getting over a 200 million budget would have been far better of a choice to do! The manga and SBS is literally their storyboard and script!
@@DANCERcow they already had to cut a lot of stuff for 8 hours of content, how do you want to cramp everything in a film? How many films? Keep in mind it takes at least 3 years for a 3hr film and around 2 years for a 8hr season.
I don't understand why it would be wrong for Koby to be introduced and never pop up again just because this is a seasonal show.
I would have been satisfied enough with showing his and Helmeppo's training in after credits scenes as a nod to the original cover story instead. As it stands the hamfisted way they inserted these characters in the romance dawn saga feels unnecessary considering they don't impact anything in the story, everything would play out the same without them, we know that because that's actually how it goes in the original.
@tubguinace it was more so because of budget. If you notice, all the garp and koby scenes are in the ship in garps office. It's just a B plot made to save on budget while also having an interesting 2nd story
Arlong Park set an impossibly high bar that a show with OPLA's budget just wasn't equipped to handle. They did what they could and it was done rather well despite the flaws you pointed out but I must say the scene with Inaki and Rudd was absolutely fantastic. I discovered One Piece back in the summer of '03 and Arlong Park is still my favorite arc. I never would have imagined a One Piece live action let being made let alone it being able to capture the essence that was in the anime/manga but it was great. I'm hoping that season 2 can build on the momentum of season 1 and improve even further. I'm cautiously optimistic.
I agree that arlong park in live action didn't have the same impact as the manga/anime, live action was pretty fun and I actually did enjoy garp's early introduction, but I do definitely agree that it lacked the emotional brevity that the original had.
That scene is what sold me on one piece so it was a bit disappointing to see it not living up to its peak
Good video btw, editing and voice over work was pretty solid
Thank you :) One Piece is definitely way too big for a live action to adapt every single plot point which is why I get confused why a lot of the heart of early One Piece is sidelined in favor of more Garp screentime. His scene with Zeff fit really well with their characters
Well the don’t have worry about that the person who pushed the marine Grap plot line Steven Meyeda co-showrunner , pissed off matt Owen the main show runner by still promoting the show during actors like ( and this same guy who try to compare luffy to Kalmela Harris is similar to him 😂) has been just pushed to executive producer so we don’t have put up with his input anymore
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Ye it was supposed to be longer originally
I enjoyed the One Piece live action and appreciate it as an introduction to the series for people who are hesitant to start due to One Piece's length. However, I completely agree with everything you said about Arlong Park in the live action and the portrayal of Usopp. Honestly, Usopp is my favorite character in the entire series and how he was sidelined in the live action is my biggest complaint, so I'm glad it's something that you covered. Can't wait to see more comentary from you!
Thank you so much ❤! I do think the live action works best to reel in new viewers into the series and was never meant to be a substitute. Usopp has grown on me over time and his moment in Arlong Park made me start appreciating his character.
I feel like my problem with Luffy is that he isn’t selfish, so he doesn’t do things for himself while occasionally helping others because he wants too. It feels like he HAS to help others and hes just very kid-like
I never started watching One Piece for the world building or fights. It always had these scenes with unbelievable writing. Little scenes like Luffy purposing fighting Koby, Luffy not giving 2 shits about Nami's flashback, the whole idea of putting your life on the line. And I don't think a lot of fans even notice it, hence why the shoe runners might have not noticed these moments.
@@elliottpierce9823 There are so many little details in this arc that the live action series didn't pay attention to, one of the things that always gets me about this arc is the reveal that the reason Genzo wears a pinwheel on his hat is because he looked too scary for Nami as a baby without it, the symbolism that comes with the image of him leaving the pinwheel in Bell-mere's grave is so powerful, it's this bitter sweet admission that Nami has now grown into a woman and no longer needs him to look after her.
But that detail was completely absent in the Live Action version, he never wears a pinwheel at all in the first place, I suspect they cut it because he'd look silly, but that's kind of the entire point, it was the most disappointing part for me.
If only they were given 10 episodes to begin with....
hell if only a show being given only 8 episodes at all wasn't being normalised, especially for streaming
Yeah, all your points strike home for me.
2 small things I personally struggle with more and more are a) the Going Merry being, seemingly, a rather new ship and b) Luffy appearing to "discover" some of his moves, as if he didn't spent half of his life doing this sparring Ace, especially bad with Gum Gum Balloon. The flattening of most of the sidecast is super sad, but probably due to both time and budget (while I am no fan of the Garp b-plot, it does offer a "pushing factor" during the season - Arlong being the "pulling factor", while also being a bit of a lore dump at times and hint at the CobyMeppo coverstory. apparently this part was the last part of the script Oda greenlit, and not without a struggle and hesitantly)
Afaik, there initally were 10 episodes ordered, which were late cut to 8, but afaik that primarily cut out Loguetown.
As much as I liked the live-action adaptation of One Piece, I feel like the last two episodes kind of dropped the ball in its storytelling. It’s clear that the staff wanted to try something new with the Arlong Park Arc and I would’ve been interested to see how these changes could've played out if it was given the time and space to develop. However, this version desperately needed more than two episodes to create the story it wanted to tell. Episode 7 and the first half of 8 pulls all the stops to delve more into Arlong and his crew’s prejudice against humans and attempt a new take on Nami’s mission to save the village, but the pacing doesn’t facilitate the strengths this version could’ve had because of the episodes provided and how they are paced out. As much as I’m enjoying the performances of everyone in this cast (absolutely love how the “Help me” sequence was shot and performed), the structure of the writing pales in comparison to both the original manga and previous episodes in this season.
The Arlong Park episodes could've been 1 to 1 from the manga but condensed and I think I would've preferred that because in that case, it still would've given new audiences a hint of what made this story special in the manga and anime. Instead, this production attempted to make some tweaks and changes for a new rendition of a familiar story that might've been interesting and worthwhile to see, but was unfortunately squandered by the amount of episodes the production crew was given to work with.
The writing strikes really interfered with the production. While I was working on the video, information was disclosed by Matt Owens is that they filmed Usopp struggling against Chew but was cut out. The writers couldn't make any changes and cooperate with the editors because of the strike. I can't believe I'm saying this about One Piece at all but this arc was paced way too fast to really explore more about the village and other characters. I do kinda wish they did 1 to 1 to emphasize why One Piece is so special but that also defeats the purpose of the adaptation. One or two more episodes could have really helped this adaptation.
Yeah I loved the Live Action because I feel it mostly captures the spirit of One Piece but my biggest gripe (beyond the lack of Ussop) was how they took away the agency from the people of the world because it removes a lot of the nuances about the ideas of revolution and who should be the one to liberate. The whole "Luffy isn't a Hero" doesn't work if the villagers don't fight for themselves.
hey man you certainly baited me, but i appreciate your dissection and your thought process. 90 subs is INSANE. you'll have way way more soon enough if you keep up this energy
I feel like you could do this for the other 4 arcs too 😅 there were so many things that were changed or completely ignored that really affects our strawhats. Especially their relationships with LUFFY.
Let’s take Baratie with Sanji and Luffy for example:
1) removing the “fighting cooks” element of Baratie which takes away the explanation on WHY Sanji is so physically strong and rids him of personality
2) him not going into a RAGE at ppl wasting food when that IS his trigger and only gets violent when the marines start first
3) Zeff demoting Sanji to waiter instead of rightfully viewing him as the Sou Chef is unnecessary
4) Sanji not seeing the fight between Zoro and Mihawk which was one of the catalysts to reviving his dream to find the All Blue
5) the fact that Sanji tells Luffy his dream the moment he meets him when in the OG, he only says it at the end of arc, AFTER seeing Luffy (and Zoro) fight for their dreams
6) OG Luffy first sees Sanji feed Gin before seeing him fight OR tasting his food as opposed to seeing him fight, eating his food, and then seeing him feed Gin (which shows OG Luffy cares about the person and not their skill)
7) the fact the LA Zeff+Sanji flashback was used to teach Luffy a lesson on being a captain and not the OG purpose of having Luffy knock sense into Sanji that Zeff didn’t sacrifice himself so that Sanji would die but for him to LIVE (something Luffy gets because he does that for Shanks).
8) that Luffy gets involved in the fight between Zeff and Sanji to begin with and even calls Zeff out for Sanji which isn’t his place is JUST NOT LUFFY
9) the way OG Luffy asks Sanji a million times to join but in LA he asks him once and somehow at the end, Sanji just agrees okay cause of Zeff lol
10) and lastly, the fact Sanji is depicted as this polite, well-adapted British dude is so just weird. Sanji is supposed to be a sassy, mean-mouthed jerk with a heart of gold. He GREW UP in what is essentially a PIRATE KITCHEN. He SPEAKS the most like a pirate compared to the rest of the crew. That’s just how he was raised. The fact he is completely vanilla-ized is so disappointing. Cause those traits are what made him so interesting in the first place. They replaced an actual pirate character with customer service stereotype 🥲
Obviously, they couldn’t do the Don Krieg fight and that’s fine. Just wish they stuck with the character points for Sanji and how Luffy and him connect. In the LA version, it’s so watered down and focused on other things (due to be squeezed in with Arlong Park).
THIS!! OPLA is good but they missed a lot specially in establishing Luffy's relationship with his crew. and i say this as someone who started OP through live action. for people who doesn't know the characters i think this will be enjoyable bc i did but after manga and anime it just fell for me. people praise LA sanji for not having gags but that's the only good thing cause LA sanji felt like he is a nice dude who is just there but manga made me cry and made me understand him enough to become a fan of him
169 subs is criminal, keep up the good work!
The way luffy goes on top of the room to contemplate and doubt himself after hearing Nami's story felt so out of character. When he just got up and left, I thought that was when he was going to find Nami and do the Help Me scene
185 subscribers?? YOU ARE SO UNDERRATED omg
Yo, I’m just seeing this for the first time and I’m surprised that you had made a video a whole year later but I am glad that you did as it has shed and perspective on this as a Ari enemy watcher and watch the live action after that and I still thoroughly enjoyed the live action however, I appreciate you pointing out how it took out oops Character development I think it’s something that’s super important that the team should keep looking at in terms of their characters and just understand the value of what made their development so beautiful I think overall good I think a little more though
I agree with you.
When I saw Arlong Park's adaptation, I was a bit disappointed... What bothered me the most was Nojiko... God, why she's so clueless and rude in netflix adaptation? She was pretty sensible, Bell-mère itself said it in the anime, so, even if they wanted to make her not know at first, at least they could have made her a little suspicious, unable to hate her sister, idk...
I think Nami's past is even more shoking and hurting when you see at the begining no one seems to gives a f*** for her, than when you see them despising her instead, and I think that because here in Spain we have a proverb: "There is no greater contempt than not giving appreciation", which means that the indifference of someone hurts you more than their hate for you. Not to mantion indifference makes you stay, because "maybe you can fix it", but hate makes you give up and go on eventually, makes you stop caering for them too. And in this case, the indifference makes it hard not only for her, who thinks everyone hates her, but for all Kokoyashi's residents, who only can care and root for her in silence.
In the anime, I LOVED when Genzo revealed that ALL the village know about Nami's true intentions but they was pretending to don't know, and it makes perfectly sence, it makes it bittersweet, seing how they were preppered to give up their lifes if she decided to run away from Arlong...
Tbh, I loved Nojiko in the anime, but I kinda feel rejection to her in the live action... If only she would have been written a bit more clever, sensible... And with that touch, you know... the way she seems carefree and friendly, and she smiles a lot when talking, and cares a lot for others, but she can be serious and brave when she has to be... you know? the original Nojiko reminds me a lot to Bell-mère, in fact...
And I decided to "ignore" it, along with some other changes, because I was so hyped, because at the end of the day they're doing a great job (specially comparing it with other anime adaptations), because the actors are sooo good, and because it has the approval of Oda...
But in the anime, I felt Arlong Park as a peak, and that doesn't happened with the live action... The anime still makes me cry if I rewatch that arc, but the live action doesn't gived me the same feeling, and in fact, now I'm wondering if some tears came to my eyes watching it because of the anime nostalgia, because even the "Nami stabing her arm" scene is lacking "drama" to my taste... It's basically what you said about that scene, you explaned it perfectly. And I can't fake those feelings, no matter how fan I am of One Piece and how much I wish it to continue.
you reminded me why i love one piece, thanks for this video
People exagerate with live action Ussop. He has been in circles for decades so I see no problem he didnt shine in his own arc since he has more oportunities to grow as a character later THAN canon. Also, he beat a pirate commander meanwhile Zoro didnt fight a Arlong commander so his feat is more valuable in live action. Last thing to add is that Kuurobi can take Hachi role in Sabaody, Both are exchangable characters. It just happened Hachi looked more sympathic due to his comic relief role. I agree with you with Strawhats getting sidelined in pro of Coby/Garp storyline.
For 83 subscribers GOOD JOB man
OPLA is impressive. In fact, it's actually kinda outstanding. But it's definitely not without its flaws and the most glaring one was Arlong Park. As fans, it's understandable WHY, but if it becomes a common occurrence (the watering down of characters and plots for the worse) I don't think OPLA will be able to stay for very long. BUT if they fix those mistakes (shortening some things for time constraints but making it well and not just rushed and watered down), the mistakes can be easily overlooked. And I think that's the formula they need to keep going with for this truly "impossible to adapt" show.
(Dude, even you recapping what they missed about Arlong Park and the villagers, and Nami's helplessness and the fundamental reason why she could do nothing else but stab her tattoo as an insult to Arlong made me tear up. That shit just HITS and none of it was in OPLA)
they didn’t misunderstand it. they understood it well. it was just cut down a lot due to the writer and actor’s strikes.
Matt Owens, the show runner and writer for the series (the one keeping it going) said that because of the writers strikes that he legally couldn’t be there in the editing room for the last two episodes.
he said there’s a significant portion of content filmed for arlong park and he isn’t sure what happened and why it was cut down so short. he said this on Hasan’s stream.
this won’t be a problem in later seasons.
sure
Considering how he handled baratie and ESPECIALLY syrup villiage I cant honestly say I believe the quality would have been improved that much.
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@@Jdudec367 I think he means that these two arcs were also not well adapted which I have also issues with. They removed a lot of stuff and sidelined Usopp so bad.
Adapting any show perfectly is not possible. I respect unlike most this series keeps the spirit of the original alive. Remember the anime gives us some different and so does the live action. New and old fans can enjoy different versions. Yet your correct Usopp is the weakest character. I will say, Emily Rudd did the best job. Her portrayal of Nami became more realistic, likable, but she still hit that treacherous lovable character. I agree, that Luffy is not the same in live-action; instead, Inaki gives him a more mature vibe. Anime Luffy’s aloofness makes him unique. I miss that he just knows what to do. I appreciate your analysis and it be great if the second season went further with the source material.
One thing that's also making me kinda going "ehhhh" is when Matt said in one of the interview about trying to convince Oda for them to do certain scenes.
Now I think if they have to keep trying to convince Oda, Something is wrong here. I get they have to adapt stuff, but there are some things Oda designed it to be the way that it is.
Again, this came out because Oda approved it, but it's a bit questionable when they have to convince Oda few times about doing certain scenes that Oda probably didn't agree with when they introduce the concept to him.
I don't know what these particular scene is, but yeah. In season 2, if Oda says no, they should rework it instead of trying to convince him to do what he didn't like.
Maeda was the one making wrong choices
Matt won't
Thanks for sharing your opinion, I was so upset after watching the live action and feeling all the love for the story gone, to then find absolutely everyone everywhere praising it, I lost all hope and thought I was mad.
Finally, people are realizing that the live action is not a substitute for the anime or manga. The live action is still amazing for the limitations.
because live action is real humans and they will be never imitate anime's charm.
@@haze300*anime's cringe
Well I think the point of the live action is to get people into the manga and anime and so far that’s been working lmao
12:40 - actually, just to point out, fishman island is where luffy realises he kinda DOES need to know the history of the places he saves, wano and dressrosa are great at showing this.
its a great way to show how luffy needs to keep growing in this show
I DO NOT LIKE the characterization of the live action characters
Not that im sayin' the casting is bad, because that was immaculate but like how the characters acted was horrid
With nami and zoro being 5 times as serious as theu usually are 💀
They misunderstood a lot more than Arlong Park, Luffy is a COMPLETELY different character, at some points I legit thought I was getting trolled with how much he acted like the complete opposite of Luffy in the manga.
I don’t think that he was really different in any ways
@@Tomato_pasta_lover “I don’t think” yeah I can tell
Do you have any examples? I’m genuinely interested
@@cheggtea Luffy robbing Koby of his growth in the first episode, he made up a lie and said Koby insulted. Alvida which never happened, and he forces him to tell him his dream, by this point in the manga Koby had already grown and “fought” back against Alvida and was later prepared to die, but in the LA he was the same scared dweeb with no confidence to even chase his dream.
Other moments include berating Kuro about what it means to be a pirate and that his piracy is “wrong”, when in the manga he was telling him he’s a coward for abandoning that life, and telling nami he was a “different pirate” when luffy never tells anyone how to feel about him, he lets them decide for themselves.
Another moment that isn’t really acting opposite but shows a misunderstanding of Luffy’s character is when Nami was talking about stealing the merry, you can tell the writers think he’s a kid because that’s how he’s treated. The stealing part isn’t really the problem since I can see Luffy not wanting to steal what would be their home, but the reason he gives is stupid, he says it’s wrong to steal.
@@ايمنالعنزي-ص6صgo take your meds oda literally picked out the guy who’s playing luffy so stop complaining little boy
Honestly, the only episodes I truly enjoyed in the live action were the 1st that adapted the romance dawn arc, and 5 & 6 that adapted Baratie. I had issues with how Matt Owens chose to adapt the arcs in every other episode. 🤷🏾♂️
I think it is just so hard to adapt these things and maintain the consistency from medium to medium. I think the important part is the OPLA serves its purpose. Its entertaining. its cool to see all of our favorite characters, places, and plot lines in a live action environment. And it most importantly gets ppl into one piece.
I am curious to see if the further leniency from netflix, as Oda has pointed out, will help compensate for the even more complex stuff coming up in the story.
I think you can go even further and say How OPLA misunderstood the entire manga
And you can go even further and say the live action is way better than the anime and the manga
@@Goji1954_minuszero I don’t believe you can go that far actually
@@Goji1954_minuszeronnnnah i dont think you can lol
Garp is handled completely differently as they basically replace a huge part of his character, hachi is completely left out, usopp does almost nothing to prove himself to luffy or the viewers during his introduction arc, and the list goes on lol
One piece live action is impressive dont get me wrong, but certain details make it an experience that just doesn't work as well as the anime or manga.
@@Goji1954_minuszero I don’t think that the live action is better than the manga but it’s 100% not as bad as some people say it is, it just handled the story differently, and yes in a worse way than the manga did, but still in a good, enjoyable way.
@@Tomato_pasta_lover The live action has way better pacing but the op remake might be better
It pisses me off so much that arlong park is destroyed for some unnecessary scene of grap . The fact that one most important and longest arc of East blue saga is watered down to one episode and even that episode there where 10 mins of unnecessary garp scene
I mean the arlong park in the anime was way to long
@@YaidenSevereI disagree as pacing gets way worse
Luffy did defeat Arlong pretty quickly. The only thing that made the fight long was him being thrown in the pool
@@YaidenSevere Almost every arc on one piece is too long lol. I love One Piece, but let's be honest
the pace is kinda horrible.
Garp vs luffy was so stupid and unnecessary 😂
the only thing this adaptation did right was not disrespecting the source material. otherwise its a pretty meh show. but at least it made new people read/watch one piece
What it's missing? I know for sure... "Uunan and the stonestorage room" OST
I'll still never get the people who only watch live action shows. I mean I'm glad people liked it but it annoys me on how much they're missing out. They really have no clue.
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changes were mostly alright, but they did VERY bad changes especially in arlong park.
first of, luffy & zorro outscale EVERYONE (except people like garp and mihawk ofc) they encountered in the east blue. taking away scenes like arlong being shocked to see zorros scar and realizing he has to kill him asap as well as luffy playing around for all of the fight ubntil he sees how nami was treated is a subtle nod to arlongs philosophie being wrong af. by downplaying the strongest strawhats like that future powerscaling will become a hot mess. they will take out tons of baroque works members in the next or in 2 episodes. Arlong being portrayed stronger as luffy makes no sense in the climax of the fight too cause its shown how in the end luffy easily overpowers arlong while breaking his saw and destroying the park.
storywise, they took away lots of character moments. glad all are listed in the vid
my main problem whit it was they changed the villigers viwe on nami and later fin out what she did for them to me one of the best parts in the original was when we finde out the villigers knew all along
I would personally recommend that Netflix's One Piece should be seen as an AU version of the story, instead of a failed attempt at a shot-for-shot remake of the original version. Don't forget, Oda himself is executive producer, which means he gets to oversee whatever changes are made by Netflix. If changes are made now that will affect the plot later down the line, I'm sure Oda will have something in place to help the changes gel into their own unique story.
Luffy sticking around to hear Nami's backstory is definitely the biggest fumble of the live action show.
This show got me into One Piece (finally)
I heavily dislike zoro in live action. Everyone to be honest is kinda more soft and lighthearted in live action compared to the anime
You tryna say that Zoro is too light hearted in the live action or the opposite?
I agree, and it's not just this arc. Live action doesn't really do justice to ANY of the core themes of the story. Doesn't mean it's not a good show standing on its own, but in terms of adaption, it just isn't one piece. Everything feels flat.
i think they stole a lot of story beats from later in the story to make the season a nicely wrapped up package if no further seasons gets made, but then it takes away major points that should've had more time
While watching it back then I always thought Garp appeared already so early because they tried to give him the role Smoker had in the story and basically fused both of them, live action Garp is also way more serious than his anime counterpart and screamed Smoker to me. It would make kinda sense if they tried to shorten the story line that way by fusing 2 characters with similiar purposes into one.
But then the live action show ended with a teaser for Smoker in the next season, which makes the way Garp was handled not make much sense. I guess they couldn't afford Luffy's grandfather to also be a silly goober?
If I’m not wrong according to Matt Owen’s, I think they weren’t able to finish the season off how they wanted because of the writers strike. Hopefully next season improves.
I am always thought that when nami said “you don’t know what’s going on here” it might’ve been referring to Nami deal with arlong sense in this version, Nobody knows about it other than her and arlong, but even then I do agree that they should’ve changed luffy line.
They didn't misunderstood arlong park they just didn't have enough budget for it and condensing 15 episode to one hour is not cheap nor easy
Yeah right. Maybe don't add Garp this early? He (and the unneeded Coby's arc) literally cut a lot of the runtime of the series. Luffy's meeting with Garp is NOT needed, the reason Garp comes to Luffy after Water 7 is to become a threat and become a shocking factor that he's just Luffy's grandpa. There's Smoker who becomes the threat in East Blue!!! There's a reason the anime put Coby's mini arc in Loguetown, because it was the approriate place to put it (I know it's just a cover story in the manga but still)
@@IftiharAbdillahwell it was also written originally for ten episodes and cut down to 8 for budget/netflix reasons, so maybe the original script had time for everything
@@IftiharAbdillahthey had to use garp somehow obviously like imagine paying so much money to old dude just to appear on screen for a second that such a waste of money so of course they are gonna use it also this doesn't change much of the plot
The problem with the live action for me is that ... One Piece is very long. And while many see this as a huge hurdle to get into the show, once they actually start watching it they get WHY it has to be that way. Oda loves to include so many details in his story that we just don't get in the L.A. version. As a result they have to change things and remove stuff now and later on. I get why they do it (time, money and many more reasons) but it makes me as a long time OP fan kinda not wanna watch the show... I don't even think the visuals are great so that's not a reason for me to watch neither. Also getting Luffy's identity right for me is the core of how to make an adaptation work. And at least in season 1 they did not achieve that for me yet.
I'm still happy that the show exists. There seem to be much more people aware of the story now and I'm sure it also helped to convince them to make the remake. I know many people who would never ever have started with OP before and now they even think about watching the anime. It's great!
I agree with most of the Arlong Park criticisms you gave, but I feel like the Nami stabbing scene does work really well in the Live Action too. We saw Captain Nezumi casually carry away the money Nami wasted half her life on, her desperate reaction is definitely warranted.
And while I do think Luffy not knowing Nami’s backstory is more powerful, his words in the Live Action still make sense. Nami says that Luffy doesn’t know anything about what’s going on. Nami, who avoided explaining her situation her entire life, needed to hear “So what if I don’t? It doesn’t matter that I know and it never will, we’re still a crew and always will be” and not “Actually, I happen to know what’s going on, thank god, and this time I can help”. “No I don’t” is the simple version of the prior and “yes I do” would have been the simple version of the latter. Even if Luffy knew part of Nami’s backstory, “No I don’t” was still a very true to Luffy emotionally intelligent response
I can get behind this interpretation where Luffy just needed to say what Nami needed to hear which is kinda the point of him being there in the first place. I still think the villagers should have played a bigger role because that still doesnt really sit well with me. I understand because of the budget but a part of One Piece is its massive scale which feels toned down (once again it is expensive and episodes were cut down). Thank you though :)
@@NoseHasEyes def agree on that part. I watched the Live Action first, and Arlong Park, especially episode 7 was still peak, but after watching the anime for the first time, I was so sad about how little Genzo was given to do in the LA. In the East Blue, we got a good trio of father figures everyone needs in their life, Shanks being the inspiration, Zeff with his discipline and Genzo for emotional support, and while we got Garp for Koby in the LA, Genzo taking a backseat really put a hole into the story. (Still really love the Live Action tho😍)
3:35 actually facts though, crazy how some people will deny that. That wound literally got *fear* into Arlong's eyes.
3:46 wtf, lol yeah anime Zoro would just turn around with his typical "Heh?"
4:40 damn, get out, WDYM he's the best. Honestly when seeing him in the intro before meeting him I disliked him a lot.
But the moment we actually met him, and I heard his VA I did an immediate 180. I will say because of age, the VA is not as good anymore these days as he was but although I generally don't pick favorites, if I absolutely have to Usopp is one of them. He's your ground in reality kind of together with Nami, he's just such a *real* character.
Usopp getting the absolute shit beat out of him, is such a part of the character because he's so human, he's pretty much *just a guy* he's doesn't have crazy powers or casually has an entire building drop on him like Zoro or Sanji. Despite being a normal person, and getting hurt like a normal person he always ends up "being the bravest" fighting despite his weakness and fear, and ultimately winning. He deserves his current bounty 100%
You are 100% right about everything about Arlong Park though they literally *missed the point* of *a lot of it* like that's one of the main reasons I really didn't wanna watch the Live Action despite people saying it was good. Like somewhere inside, I already knew they were gonna mess all these things up and it wasn't gonna make much sense. Just sad it was actually *this much* especially the village and her sister, that's by far the worst it did.
Almost all other things are just things it "missed out on" like most adaptations, it misses out on hidden depth but even the Anime does that compared to the manga sometimes. But actually making something just "that wrong" is stupid.
2nd worst offense is defenitly Luffy listening to her backstory, *Luffy skips all the flashbacks* that's basically like his whole deal, he has 0 IQ but maxed out on EQ. Anyway of course, if it gets more people into actually reading the manga or watching the anime I don't have anything against the Live Action. It's just that it ultimately can't and couldn't avoid "the problem" of all live action adaptations. It's basically just an alternate universe with different versions of the characters.
i watched the live action first but now that i'm up to date with the latest ep of the anime, i didn't even expect them to change so much of the plot, plus the east blue crew's personalities are entirely different, raging from bad (zoro) to average (luffy nami) to good (usopp, sanji). the portrayal of zoro's character is more of a time-skip zoro if anything. he's too serious whereas zoro in the animanga was more laid-back, and he only became more serious after his training with mihawk. usopp and sanji on the other hand were so GOOD. LA usopp has charisma like no other, and while animanga usopp still has that creative side that makes him shine, i hated how much of a coward he was even after post-time skip. jacob just has that effortless rizz. taz too!!! i love sanji's backstory and character, but no words can describe how much i hate sanji's perviness. they actually made him likeable in the live action, more of smooth gentleman who flirts instead of nosebleeding perv💀now, luffy on the other hand, as much as i love iñaki, he didn't quite capture luffy's true essence. luffy is unpredictable. he looks at a grisly scene and says "oh well" and shrugs as if nothing happened. he's a total airhead who can't read the room but is extremely packed with battle IQ. LA luffy is more bubbly, while he's still portrayed as an airhead, he seems to be one of those anime MCs who would beat the villain out of the power of friendship. animanga luffy is different, that's what makes him such a great shonen MC. i think the difference between them is that animanga luffy is more like "wow. you're weak." deadpan expression while picking his nose, whereas LA luffy is more like, "wow, you're weak!" biting back an awkward laugh and shaking his head. both are good but og luffy is funnier...
4:23 I wanted to see the rubber knife part adapted
Genzo, Nojiko and the village in general hating Nami fr fr and not as a cover-up was a terrible change imo (though I understand the time constraints... but still, that doesn't mean I like it), and Luffy answering "you don't know anything" with "I don't" just made me go ????? immediately because him listening to the story sticking out like a sore thumb. I loved the adaptation, but some of that stuff didn't fly with me at all.
I'm glad someone said this
If they didn't include all the Garp stuff, they could've made Arlong Park a lot better. That and the way they portrayed the villagers and Namis sister was just not that good. Also, the way they portrayed some of the main characters ia frustrating but i get it. It's why I give the live action a 5/10. It could've been a lot better . I can see these problems following them onto season 2. I guess they're lucky a bunch of One Piece fans don't like to criticize the live action in favor of it "being one of the best live action adaptations." It's a good show, but overrated for sure. The good thing is it introduced a lot of people to the anime/manga
I was so dissapointed in this arcs adaptation and Im sad that barely anyone talks about it
Agreed with your take. But given the production circumstances and Netflix’s inability to take risks like adding more episodes certainly limited how much could have been explored, so a rewrite into a completely different character dynamic was necessary. From the non fans, they thought it was amazing anyways, since the village hating on Nami was kind of foreshadowed in Syrup Village, where Nami talks about her blind hatred for pirates and rich folks, villainizing them like how her village villainized her. It was a different dynamic that is (arguably) less nuanced than the original. But for an 8 episode season they really did deliver imo
I don't think all those changes are bad, because they work for live action. Live action isnt supposed to be a copy of the original material but an adaptation. It' simply no tpossible to adapt an anime in live action and do the same thing because of limitations of budjet and time and more.
I don't agree to all the moments you said "don't feel strong" is definetly the moments where every non amine watchers cried the most soooooo?? I cried so much uring this show and i feel like it's unfair to say that those moments weren't as strong or didn't had "any weight", they definetly moved a lot of people lol
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The live action did so well with romance dawn, orange town, and syrub village all 3 arcs that in the original weren’t bad just lame. But once we got to the 2 great arcs live action poorly handled them and they felt pointless (I did not feel a bit of hype for zoro vs Mihawk or all of arlongpark in live action)
I HOPE that season 2 will learn from their mistakes and improve, ussop will get his moments and every character will have their moments
For how much they spent on 1 season and still ended up cutting Hachan out is flabbergasting considering how important he will become in Saobody island. The fact they removed Nami’s tattoo stabbing is such a missed opportunity for her character but what grinds my gears and makes me Know the showrunners are missing the point of one piece when they replaced the scene of Shanks and the red hair pirate confronting the bandits where lucky roo shoots the bandit after shanks iconic line. The removal of that scene alone speaks volume and how they miss/dis-regard Oda’s messaging.
Hatchan was there
In the manga Luffy just walks away while Nami's story is told and Zoro took a nap I think😂
A small critique I have for the live action is when Nami asked Luffy for help is that they don’t use a back up shot revealing the rest of the crew they just pan over revealing them.
The luffy with a sword moment is unironically essential for his story and they dropped it for unnecessary garp screen time
2:49 They could introduce him later in the series and give an explanation for why he was at Arlong park.
Brother, Oda himself aproved every aspect and detail of the live action
they also dropped the ball HARD in baratie by skipping over Sanji. that was like the first definitive heavy hitting emotional moment in the series and they just skipped over it to get to arlong park(which they also fumbled)
I'm surprised not more people are mentioning Sanji though. I like the changes they made, that he's more flirtatious than downright perverted, and I think the actor did a great job, but I wish they would have explored his character more at the Baratie. I think a large part of why he joined in the original is from watching Zoro fight Mihawk, seeing someone fight to the death for their own dream, and having that compared to himself giving his dream up. I don't think Zeff telling him something along the lines of "giving up is staying here" should have been enough. He must have heard that several times through the years, and we weren't really shown why Sanji would listen to it this time. I feel like there was no moment that explored why he changed his mind.
I think that fight is what solidified his trust in zoro too theyre both chasing crazy dreams (although big green over there has a more tangible one). Also Sanji was kinda flirty before the timeskip it wasn't really bad until we got to thriller bark. He was more protective of women and love sick (i really miss this aspect of his character)
I’ve heard the excuse of a lack of time so many times, and it's just not true. They had two episodes, totaling 109 minutes. In contrast, look at Nami’s episode and how it perfectly conveyed the story, knowing exactly what to cut and what to keep, delivering the entire story in 105 minutes, with the first 5 minutes being an exposition of the situation from the previous saga. It’s all about making smart choices on what to focus on, and they did a pretty poor job of that, at least in this saga.
The live action had way less time than you assume because it needed to close the entire season as well as possibly the entire series in a satisfying way to convince you that you should read the manga or watch the anime if no new season follows (which was possible at this time). Most of what happens in the second half of episode 8 was likely originally planned for episode 9 and 10.
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i feel like the marines are there to give us something new and different, something we don’t already know the gist of. and that creates new content for one piece enjoyers.
My biggest problem with the live action was how they pointed out the fishman racism too early. When its shown that the fish men are the oppressed race in saboady it made me have a moment of self reflection where I realized that people with a mindset like mine were the problem in the one piece world.
I had seen the things they were capable of and didn't know about their history or enslavement. When I saw the live action I realized that nobody who sticks exclusively to the live action will ever have that moment and it made me a bit sad.
Luffy didn't have to listen to her back story, he knows NOTHING about what's going on. All he knows that Nami was suffering and he's going to kick some ass for making her cry. However Luffy knew that Nami was trapped by experiencing first hand what her prison looked like. When he hold the blody pen she used to draw maps over and over again, the maps piling up every where, and Arlong's words of enslaving Nami are what enraged him and cause him to deliver the final blow and destroy the entire Arlong Park with it. Luffy had his own way discovering Nami's pain and his own way in destroying it.
you put it pretty well why i think this was the weakest part of the live action.
Cutting it down to 2 episodes just meant we lost too much of what made the arc great.
it was actually stated that they in fact did not have any budget to properly produce the arlong park
i agree with most of what you said. the LA was good very good the best anime to live action ive seen apart from the kingdom movies but theres no denying that they cut a lot and changed some things which ultimatly made the story watered down and altered that said i think they did a good enough job to hold ppls interest so they can watch the anime or read the manga where its way better. theres no denying that compared to the anime and manga the LA is inferior but that doesnt make it bad it may be worse than the original but its still One Piece at heart so i think its ok. i also felt zoro was a little too edgy and not as goofy as he was but its an ok change for me goofy doesnt work well in LA and itd be hard to make a stoic goofy character work irl. here ill even add something that i think they did better in the LA BUGGYS actor freaking crushed it i actually like buggy in the LA and hes a little scary hes basically a joke in the anime which i like but i never took him seriously in the LA i was like yeah he did an excellent job. also i liked the changes to the syrup village arc but i do not like a lot of the changes in arlong park although some are good making the park and actual park was a great idea the walk to arlong park however is just not THAT moment it was in the anime and the nami scene while it was ok she didnt quite nail it it felt fake to me that scene made me cry in the anime but nothing for the LA bc it feels so fake i cant believe its real but at least its accurate so i excused it. anyway the LA was good great even but compared to the anime and manga its just not that good kinda like how the manga will always be better than the anime the anime will always be better than the LA.
The qhestion is " where is hatchan??? Hes the MVP of arlong park
He is in 1 scene he’s in the credits
I personally didn't like the live action , and just so you know I am a big one piece fan , it's number 1 for me in story for fantasy. I didnt like the changes , and I don't know if oda did them or Netflix but it's not right . And i know many are gonna hate me but only animation can achieve a emotional impact due to its style . When I see live action I can see through the acting and it's cringes me . Well that's it 😅😊
Humans will never imitate anime's charm. Your opinion is actually true and I feel the same way, but changes is necessary so it will be appealing to other audience. It serves as intro to know what the fuck is this One Piece show and why many people are obsessed with it? I actually prepared myself about the changes they made before watching the show, I know they will hit different from me since I've been watching anime since when I was a kid.
I just hope they will improve more if possible.
If you had a 6 min song and they offered a 2 minute spot on the radio, how would you keep the essence? It’s already so hard to cut 30 seconds. I can’t imagine how hard it must of been for a series like this, so all in all I think they did a good job and introduced new fans to the series.