Steam Together - Southern Railway 4501 & 630 Doubleheader
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
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This video features the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum's 2014 finale for an exciting year with doubleheaded Southern Railway steam.
On this trip from Chattanooga to Summerville, Georgia is the operation of both of the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum's steam locomotives. Both are veterans of the Southern Railway's freight operations and steam program.
On this train is 2-8-2 4501, the famed excursion locomotive that started the original Southern Railway steam program back in 1966. Built in 1911, this Baldwin locomotive was the first Mikado owned by the Southern. The 4501 was used in the steam program in the famed Crescent green and gold paint scheme through 1994. The engine last operated in 1998, kept on display in freight black. Following a four year restoration, the 4501 made its return to operation in September 2014.
Added for this day's trip was 2-8-0 630, a 1904-built Alco product restored in 2011. It was operated in the original Southern steam program in the 1970s, and following a 20-year restoration by TVRM, operated again in the revived program since 2011.
This was only the third time both engines have operated together. Now both in black, the two made a nice sight on the extended trip to Summerville.
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Hi Guys! That has to be some kind of world record....filming a builders plate on the boiler legibly at 30 mph! once again....superb video work!
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Great job !!! Well done ! Looks great in HD. Audio is crisp and clear. Thanks for sharing.
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Dude, this is awesome. 2 Southern locomotives double heading together. This just gives me the good fever.
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@@DynamoProductions-trains 8:33 the infamous bell spin has struck again!
💘 my Hometown Chattanooga n miss the Trains !
This is Why Those Two Steam Locomotives Are More Like "Donald and Douglas" From Thomas the Tank Engine, and I Love Them a Lot
If Thomas and friends was Americanized.
What about 630 and 722?
the body of water is so clear at 5:48 i have been at the spot i want to like get a kayak or something and go on it at some point it''s so beautiful
Great footage of great machines! Keep up the good work!
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Blimey, that's the best train vid I've ever seen! Superb Thanx and...
cheers
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4501 actually spent four years being restored. 630 returned to service in 2011.
Really nice video. I enjoyed watching that very much. The night shot at 15:15 was awesome. Thank you for sharing.
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Excellent video,great sound capture ! Favorites.
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Great job Dynamo Productions!!! Thanks for your incredible work here!
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what amazing quality filming nice job guys very much enjoyed
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At 4:38 that guy in the car was so crazy crossing the tracks before the train crossed the road!
1:12 Classic 90's style of railfanning. EDIT: This whole video is basically the 90's XD
Awesome
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nice i have road in both 4501&630 in 2017 4501 and in 2018 630
Very nice job!
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Would be nice if the locomotive could be briefly altered to its 1966 appearance in 2026 to coincide with the 60th anniversary of the Southern Steam Program.
Like with the old black from her first trip or the southern crescent green
The old black for 2024 if possible and the green for 2026
I think it would be nice to see it in black with whitewall tires, a red roof, and white accents like 630 has.
Fantastic video!!
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4501 was painted green from 1966-1996, the museum decided to keep it historically accurate and paint her black as she was in regular service and from 1996-98
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2:32 the coolest shot and sound I have seen of 4501
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He did a great job! I hope we see more from him in the future.
We sure hope so too, glad you enjoyed it!
***** Really green is not the paint scheme it had while in service originally. It was black since it was a freight engine.
***** Yeah. It does look better. At least it's running again.
Just to say, 4501 hauls passengers now, and ALL engines hauling passengers on the Southern were green, if a freight engine was needed for a passenger run according to what I have always been found, it would be repainted green and gold, and when done with its passenger work, back to black. So to really be accurate, unless TVRM is going to have her on long freights green is accurate for passenger use. For the sake of double heading and with red carriages I find black better, but I am a green all the way fan. I like her in black, but LOVE her in green. I understand why, no 722 and it's original but still I want green (maybe a special trip with 630 as 722, only major differences are the doors on the front's shape (angled vs. squared) and smokebox handrail.
i have cab rided both and where the video starts i have stood right there
the grass looks like it is above the water but it isn't that's how clear the water is
Great video. Hope to see more in the future. 4501 should be in green livery.
I think she would look good but at least she's back out and in live steam.
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The only think I didn't like about this double header whah the fact that they put the larger locomotive in front, which in fact is traditionally wrong, it doesn't let the power be distributed evenly, effectively, and efficiently. I bet the 01 was dragging 630 all the way there. On the way back it looked great and i enjoyed the video
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It honestly wouldn't surprise me if all of the Southern "foamers" who're whining and complaining about the color either don't know, or don't care about the reason WHY 4501 was even painted green In The First Place.
Which was (for those that don't know/care): The Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum (TVRM) painted this locomotive (4501) green because they were unable to acquire the 4-6-2 Ps-4 No. 1401 from the Smithsonian (which was both a passenger train AND Green).
4501 was green for about 30 years as a result of a compromise.
A compromise that could be easily (relatively speaking, of course) rectified by the TVRM commissioning an entirely new 4-6-2 Ps-4 to fill/perform the purpose it was originally intended for: Steam Excursion.
(of course, at this point, doing so would simply be them making what they couldn't buy, just so they could have it...)
WALTHERS14 4501 was painted green with the blessing of Southern Railway. TVRM did NOT try to acquire 1401, Southern did (tried to get 290 to go green too, but legal issues arose), and as such green and gold was chosen for 4501. Robert M Soule, Jr one of our founders wanted 5288, a CNR Pacific done up as a Ps-4, size wise about a Ps-3, but it never had happened. To build a new engine would be extremely expensive and no need. TVRM operates at slow speeds and as such does not need a high speed passenger engine, end of story.
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Dark green light green an gold painted trim Suthern Crescent limited that what it should be thank you .
WOWSY wrong paint job altogether as I said before it's all wrong!!!!!!
+WOWSY The black paint job was a cheap copout I know it probably cost more to paint it it's orginal colors but there are to many locomotives tgat are black an this on wasn't orginal black it was forest green with gold painted trim accents most likely they painted it black because it was the cheaper way out but doing this an not painting the locomotive it's orginal colors to me says they fucked up big time they know it should of been painted the orginal colors no question!!!!!!!!!!
+WOWSY, thank you for the laughs. This just goes to show how much a Southern foamer can go to complain about an engine's color. Thank you, and have a nice day good sir.
Well since the 2-8-2 never pulled the Southern Cresent Limited, the engine was never green. It was only painted green in the 60s because they tried to actually get the green 1401 from the Smithsonian but couldn't. So at THAT point they performed a historic inaccuracy and made the black freight engine look like a green passenger engine. Now that 4501 and 630 match, that's how they'll stay. So get used to it
stevelerro, thank you.
Thanks for the post. In a double header configuration how do the drivers coordinate their pace and power?
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Through radio. Before that was whistle signals and feel
15:21 LET THERE BE LIGHT!
Super filmik :)
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4501 소리가 젤 좋네*
This is real World 🎉🎉🎉 see her beauty lonely but dashing🎉🎉🎉🎉
Train 4501 and 630
The 4501 should've been repainted green.
Get used to it. It's staying black, as it always was until it entered excursion service.
MAGGOT VOMIT The Southern 4501 was never originally a passenger locomotive. It was painted green for the southern steam program. Technically painting it green would be historically inaccurate.
Yeah. For real. What use are steam engines if we can't whore them out. The black just looks to good. It just doesn't have that "i suck dick for money" look like the green scheme had. It should be green with only one smoke deflector a receded and an outside head light 57 whistles mustard yellow hand rails a big red cow catcher a blue cab and a diamond stack. Like a real steam engine.
and what is going to happen to the 610? Any chance of her coming back?
610 will be redone in 5-8 years, according to what I've heard
they don't for shit to restore that locomotive at all so no one is going to be seeing this locomotive anytime soon or in the future at all that's the sad truth!!!!!!!!
+WOWSY Its called historical accuracy, get over it...... People like you dont know the work that goes into this and all you do is complain over some dang paint scheme....
MAGGOT VOMIT You're clearly don't know what historical accuracy is. Just because the locomotive is painted black doesn't mean it should not be black. Would you rather have a running steam engine, or a engine painted green? And no matter what you say/do, it will NEVER be green again. Foamers like you are the reasons we don't have nice things.
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did enyone see that ediot cross the tracks 20ft from 4501&630 whial the were moving he couda got het by 4501&630
bro 4501's bell is spinning
What’s your opinion on 4501’s Princeton 3 chime?
It’s the most iconic whistle the engine has worn
I agree! It sounds very powerful on 4501.
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Are we seriously still whining about 4501 being painted in her in-service freight colors? The same colors she's been wearing for 20 years? Be grateful that she was restored to operation in the first place. I'll bet that no one bitching and moaning about the paint didn't make any contributions to 4501's rebuild, nor do I suspect that they support her operation by volunteering or simply buying a ticket! You obviously don't know that nothing pisses off volunteers more than ungrateful foamers who do nothing to help the preservation of equipment and then whine like a little kid. Guess what, TVRM, NS owe you nothing, so be grateful that 4501 even still exists let alone runs.
Ollie Shortridge I do not really understand your last line, one of TVRM’s founding members, Paul Merriman privately purchased 4501, so I hardly see where NS comes into play? It was there decision to financially help restore 4501 to return service, I am just curious. As for your stuff about people whining and not helping, I can not stand it. People just want to take pictures and those do not help pay bills, hence why ticket prices have to increase slightly.
And the two locomotives kinda look alike except one is a 2-8-2 and the other one is a 2-8-0
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What are you talking about?
I thought 4501 was painted green?
It was for the original Southern/NS steam program. TVRM repainted it to black in 1996
she was green but then she was painted black
Isn't the more important thing that the engine is running again, not what color it is? And I do know plenty of people who would much rather see it painted black actually, so your personal opinion is not the only point of view people take on this. And it is an opinion, keep in mind when she was painted black previously on the Southern, prior to her excursion career, she was not famous not only because she wasn't green, but because she was one of thousands of steam engine running across the country every moment of every day; when she came back green, that was no longer the case, and mainline steam was a rarity. I think you are putting too much weight and credit into the engine's color.
Aaaaaaaaaaand this, right here, is why Southern foamers are the absolute worst of them all. I mean, I totally get it, you don't like things that are black. That's usually what simple minded southerners think anyway, but to use it as the only way to criticize a restoration is appalling. It's not the Canadian stoker, or the new Westinghouse feedwater heater; it's the FREAKIN' PAINT. I bet none of you have ever even worked on a steam locomotive, let alone touch one
+WOWSY 4501 actually has more fans now that it's running and in its historically accurate paint scheme. People like you who only saw it on a video in green are the only ones complaining.
Outstanding video, sound and editing! Please correct the spelling of "Holtzclaw," "Chicamauga" and "Chattanooga." These errors detract from what is otherwise a superb production.
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#4501 was built in 1911, still close since the description says 1910.
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