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What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality?
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2010
- Sexuality is God’s idea, and we should learn what it is (and is not) from him. He created us in his image as male and female, and marriage for our good, individually and collectively. Homosexuality is not the worst of all sins, but part of a brokenness we all share.
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@@Nonalhomophobie I just did 😊
@@cloversp3512 Good, now everybody knows you are a fanatic ignoramus.
These people have been arguing for years in this comment section lmfao 💀💀
LMFAOOOO
it's really sad actually
but also very funny lol
It's funny
Its sad honestly. The fact that no one has come to a compromise where everyone can just live their lives i mean
I am not a christian but the fact is that you can not change any religion according to your own wishes
@@raulantunez4228 So, does that mean they mistranslated killing in the bible? Or you just want to hear what you want to hear? If you don't want to be a christian, then you're not one dw.
well whoopie woop. And what's that got to do with this vid???
@@raulantunez4228 youre not christian if you would throw it away just because youre a sinner
@@raulantunez4228 this guy really said there are multiple theories that say it's misinterpreted but still fighting when it's clearly wrong lmao. You can't just change a point in bible, don't worry ur still a sinner like it or not.
Religion is a PRIVATE matter. Don't shove it in other's troth. Gay is just fine. get over it and stop hating.
I’ve been suicidal throughout much of my life since I was born gay. I’ve never been attracted to females and have have fallen in love with a few of my very supportive straight male friends. Why would God make millions of us if we’re not supposed to find love?
I'm not gay but 100% and good luck to you with your love life my man you are who you are for a reason ❤
god made gays to save orphans.
passages against homosexuality are false translations.
God makes Billions of men that are tempted to have sex outside of marriage they are not meant to do that anymore then should you try same sex relationships
@@theheroofmagicical628 anymore? adultery is in the 10 commandments, homosexuality is not. god makes gays to care for orphans.
Since I was 5 years old I sought God. Couldn’t read, didn’t understand the deep stuff. But I saw how my parents loved God and I wanted in. I remember being so honest at 5 years old, I poured everything out: every fear, every frustration. But my relationship with God became an unending conversation. People must have thought I was schizophrenic lol.
In this type of relationship with God, I was so caught up in seeking His will and his direction, that I didn’t even think about sexual attractions until after highschool. Funny enough, it wasn’t until I was exposed more and more to the world that my God time began to be divided smaller and smaller.
I made choices I regret but I think God held onto me and reminded me of his faithfulness to me for all those years. He has now blessed me with a wife who also loves Him and 2 beautiful children:)
All that to say, truly fix your eyes on him, and let him form your desires. If you fix your eyes on the world or even yourself, you will be led astray. Whether it’s being gay, or heterosexuals addicted to porn. None of it is godly. He’s the answer. It’s really that simple.
My main point here is: Many claim, that homosexuality like we know it today didnt exist back then and therefore everything the bible says against it is just wrong interpreted. But that claim is false as you cant just take the worldly views of your time and age and interpret everything into the bible, so that it fits modern Agenda. All i had to read about it was Romans 1. It describes what is happening today very well. The created today is more important for himself than the creator and everything else has to fit the createds sinful needs and desires, otherwise he and thw world will hate and abandon it.
@@haselstrauch1688 Homosexuality is NOT a sinful need or desire !
@@Petrovvvv It is not according to reality, which disproves the Bible, vicious sociopath and psychopath.
Exactly! If you follow the world the world would lead you astray because it’s full of sin. And the world is leading us further and further away. The evil knows what it’s doing because they don’t want everyone to build a relationship with God or Jesus. That’s why people need to wake up before it’s too late.
@@SaucyCow19 Being gay is NOT a sin. And given the damage religion has done over the centuries it is good we are getting away from it. YOU need to wake up, you are delusional, demons do not exist.
i feel like my mom controls my recommendations
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Look up cross examined
@Pisteuo Boi look up cross examined
most of the people who commented didn't even watch the video
I didn't watch the video.. nor need to
100,000 subs with no vids ikr? It is like most of the recent commenters here are just trolling.
I sub to u !
No matter what kind of video it is, you should still watch the video.
The truth we made god before we made him it's chemistry we don't know what lies before we close our eyes for ever if it's eternal darkness and we leave the pain for our loved ones, why should we judge what we create
Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's views and trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and everyone's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say.
Underrated comment
@Ричард it's a joke dum dum
can someone make another version of this? its funny lol
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I completely agree
"The bible" dosent say a word (it dosent say anything, it hasn´t got a mouth lol) about gay people. The bible is talking about straight people going beyond themselves to seek out sex with same gender. it has nothing to do with a contemporary understanding of sexual orientation.
Just gonna throw this point in. Someone in here made this comment; "...I’m so confused because I can’t change how I feel..." And I agree with it 100%. We (human beings) cannot control our emotions or change how we feel, AKA what our hearts desire.
"What you treasure or find value in, reveals what your heart secretly desires" (Matthew 6:21). So if you find yourself desiring/treasuring/finding sexual value in women (while you yourself are a woman) or men (while you yourself are a man) this reveals the desires of your heart. Simple enough, right?
But here's the kicker; Jeremiah 17: 9 tells us that "the human heart is the most deceitful of all things." Deceit in this context means DISHONEST and INSINCERE. This means that what you think you like or dislike isn't an unchanging 'truth' of your existence.
How many of us disliked vegetables when we we're kids, only to actually grow to enjoy them later in life? How many of us used to think negatively of someone based on first impressions only to find out how cool they were later on? How many of us used to have a crush on the 'perfect person' only to get to know them better and find out they weren't everything you initially thought?
The evidence is all around us. What we desire in our hearts isn't permanent, and isn't a good measure of whether something is right or not. Truth comes by faith (faith that God is real and his word is the truth regardless of what society, and your heart, says), and faith comes from hearing the Good News about Christ (Romans 10:17).
Please pray that God will show you that his words are truth. Even if you don't believe, actually no, especially if you don't believe, pray with faith that he will reveal his truth to you. If nothing happens, so be it. But I have faith if you pray earnestly, he will reveal himself in a mighty way.
I don't expect everyone who reads these words to believe, and that's okay. Like, it's actually okay. God finishes what he starts ALWAYS. So if you're still unsure, pray. God will not abandon you as long as you don't abandon him. These things take time. "Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people's hearts, and they will learn the truth." 2 Timothy 2:25 NLT. God bless!
Its your judgement that homosexuality is a sin, two people in love is not a sin, God never said any such thing.. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@@craigd9896 go home, seriously boy. Stop debating a topic you know to be ungodly. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Mr. Rich Ungodly, really? How close minded do you have you have to be to overlook an actually reasonable and frankly true argument just because your centuries worth of developed indoctrination from bias is kicking in?
@@aparadox6303 prove it. Gays are not even born gay. But of course, you wouldn't even put that into consideration because of your blind faith in left-wing propaganda and the perverse ways of us humans. Call me a homophobe if you want, but I won't compromise the truth just because of the insults of a few god-hating keyboard warriors.
Mr. Rich I don’t want to be rude in every slightest but it’s been scientifically proven that people who love the same gender have something in there chromosomes that make them like the same sex.its not a choice that some people are gay.
Let's be real guys, we both know that the Bible is against homosexuality and there's no point trying to 'move the goal-post' in this topic. The Bible is against it and Christians should be against it. Trying to sugar-coat it or making poor, unreasonable and hedonistic arguments won't change the truth. Sorry.
The Bible is against it and Christians should be against it. Trying to sugar-coat it or making poor, unreasonable and hedonistic arguments won't change the *"truth" the mythology believers have chosen of, for, and by themselves.* Sorry.
FTFY
Brian B. Mann And what makes you think Christianity is a 'myth'?
yolobabyy7 It fits the definition...
myth - noun
1. a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.
Brian B. Mann Ahh, but this 'myth' is true and correct.
yolobabyy7 That you cognate to the secondary definition is hardly my issue bud.
The myth makes claims to 'truth' and 'correctness' within itself and through it's writings. It's circular, self referential and therefore unreasonable.
I disagree. The section about Sodom sounds like the soldiers intended to sexually assault the men depending on how you read it. Also at the time the bible was written the Greeks and Romans thought it was normal for a man to sexually assault a boy a sex slave. I reckon that is what it is talking about and not 2 adults in a monogamous relationship.
It may well be true as far as the Roman-Greek world is concerned
Then he would probably have written it differently! It was clear that this book would be known worldwide and even be the best-selling book!
The Holy Spirit would have let the apostle Paul write it that way if it had been so.
Therefore, every negation is a deliberate disregard of God's commandments.
2 Timothy 4:3-4: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
older translations don't even mention sex. "to know them" = interrogation.
I'm broken as well. Please pray for me. I really love Jesus, and I really need him in my life. I'm asking God to send me some help from heaven.
we were all broken we all sinned but we are always forgiven by the Lord himself I'm catholic actually and hope you're also christian
We are ALL broken, and we all deserve to go to Hell. Thankfully the Lord Jesus Christ has given us a way out, he paid our punishment with his blood on the cross. Seek out the Lord Jesus Christ, admit to him that you are a Sinner in need of salvation. Confess your sins and then repent. Ask Jesus to give you a new heart. He loves us very much, if he was willing to pay the punishment for what we have all done...
@@Biggerisgoood Being gay is nothing to confess and nothing to punish.
@@Biggerisgoood YOU HAVE BROKEN THE RULES NOW ITS TIME FOR YOU TO GO TO H*LL
@@Nonalhomophobie It is against God.
Im a muslim, and this is just heartbreaking, if you have religion then you trust god, you trust what god says, dont change the content of the qur'an or bible the way you see fit, you dont need to reinterpret it again, when there are someone dedicating their life to interpreting the holy books.
LGBT Muslims want to change the Quran too
@@johnythepvpgod1470 they're not muslim, they cross the line and now if they want to become muslim they need to taubat, and never do it again ever again
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"Heartbreaking" lol
@@raufdvv look at that shitty name and pfp and ylou think you can talk?
My point is, you can argue over every sin.
God can handle this his own way. Love each other, and let god handle the rest
Yes, but we can't condone abominations either. We can love them, but we can't lie to them.
@@JaakkoJohannes Your stupidity is the abomination.
@Tony Droid How old are you ? Four ?
@Tony Droid Go back to your school lessons, kiddo.
If you see your mother being being atacked do you just stare and do nothing and wait the police to "handle it" and do their work?
God works through us.
“And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.”
@Enrique Irau Lagunas Perez can guys stop liking guys? its wrong asf
@@yonggeun4222 I mean some people just can't control themselves.
Hail satan
@@sav5296 Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit so that we can be guided. We have to kill the flesh, praying and fasting is a way to do this.
@@crystalwyrm4767 oh.
i know plenty of gay atheists who have a better shot at getting into heaven than many christians.
Blasphemy 🤣🤣🤣
@@legionofgod6691 How is it blasphemy and why should we care ?
@@Nonalhomophobie There’s no place for Unrepented Sinners In heaven
@@legionofgod6691 like we fucking care about your overenthusiastic book club
I love my faith...but I’m struggling with homosexuality but I’m scared to tell anyone because I feel in my church I would be looked at differently and my family would be disappointed and I’m scared I’m gonna go to hell even just for having these emotions but at the same time I’ve never even engaged in anything with a girl but I feel as if I’m gonna be alone in this and I’m very sad that I know I can’t show my emotions to the person I like and I have a brother and he has a girlfriend and I’m just look at him with her and sometimes feel as if I’ve been robbed of something that everyone else has... I truly as you said feel broken and lost and that I’m less to God
There are many churches that know homosexuality is not a sin or wrong.
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@hydrate your soul - Yes churches will help you overcome much. Homosexuality not nothing to overcome.
The question stands:
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
@hydrate your soul Homosexuality is NOT a mere "struggle" and cannot be "overcome". It can't and doesn't need to be. Leave people alone, stop harassing them and pushing them to suicide, asshole.
@hydrate your soul They are not derogatory terms, they're just the words you deserve. You haven't proved anything so far, except that you are a moron and a hateful hypocrite who can't accept the real world. I am much more strong-willed than you'll ever be, because I will never let myself be enslaved by lies and delusion.
@hydrate your soul - The question proves homosexuality is not a sin -- This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
the like and dislike ratio makes me sad tbh
Which one are you with disliked or liked
why im quite happy with it.more likes is great.
general viewer I’m glad there’s more likes, but the fact that the amount of dislikes compared to the amount of likes is very similar makes me sad ;-;
@@nommingmochi thats all will get in this world. be glad that at least the likes are similar.dont complain bcause the liberals are becoming abundant
because you're a snowflake
How can you call yourself a Christan if you discriminate against a community . Totally disgraceful
Yes! The bible clearly says to not discriminate anybody!
@Κύκλωπας I personally dont believe it
@Κύκλωπας the Bible is NOT reality. God is a mith
@Кремль It is your post which is utterly idiotic. Just because a book exists does not mean every tale in it is reality. It is your abhorrent and sick behavior decent human beings will always discriminate against.
@Кремль The Bible says a lot of crap, sociopath. Everything invalidates the Bible. You cannot separate reality from your sick delusions.
That’s right. A child rapist murderer is accepted at the church, but someone who is gay is not. Makes sense.
@Boris you Sir are to love your neighbor - did you not listen to what Jesus Christ taught. What you posted is judgement and get you hell in your future....good luck
@Boris Just about everything is about loving your neighbor. So even you seem to forget what Jesus Christ taught.
The problem is you do not post the truth, you post verses totally out of context and therefore judge someone is sinning.
It is not I that needs help - look in the mirror. Ask Jesus Christ to help you with truth.
@Boris The Bible is crap. There is no reason to « prohibit homosexuality » which is extremely delusional to even think about. You cannot forbide us from being gay and dating the other gender. Only fanatics and terrorists think they can.
@Boris Why do you hide from answering questions about Leviticus, your brought up what Jesus Christ put to rest saying; some is still in effect...and you pick and choose, and you judge based on that. All the while homosexuality is not a sin.
Answer the questions:
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24.
The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9.
The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
@Boris Shush.
“We love because he first loved us. Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. And he has given us this command: Anyone who loves God must also love their brother and sister.”
1 John 4:19-21 NIV
thats anyone, no matter their sex or sexuality .
@David Vanpatten I agree, and homosexuality is not a sin, nor is bi sexuality or heterosexuality. Thats the problem making something a sin when it is not.
We don't need to love someone who is the supposed reason we must all die one day. He knew Adam and Eve would eat the fruit, yet he still set them up for failure and then blamed us, children of the sinners for something we had no part in.
God does not love us, he just wants to control us and that's what the bible depicts. So I'd rather be happy than live a sad life to please a psychopathic fairy tale
@@ganymede8257 God has let you live up to this day, he has given man so many chances, he even let his son die on the cross for our sins, the devil wants you to believe that god isn’t real or he doesn’t love you, he is trying harder to get people to stop following God, why do you think he doesn’t love when he has done so much for you.
@@crystalwyrm4767 I don't think someone loves me when the only confirmation I have for his existence is a 7000 thousand year old, mistranslated and factually incorrect book. He had 7000 years to give us a reason to believe in him, but he never did.
Not only that, but his supporters are the biggest reason I was driven away from the religion. At this point, if he wants to blame me for staying away from Christianity he is nothing but a false idol
Psalm 78:32
*In spite of all this they still sinned*
*And did not believe in His wonderful works.*
Whose work ?
Non à I’homophobie,
Well considering “His” is capitalized we can safely assume it is God.
Again : who ? One should prove God exists first before mentioning "His" work.
Non à I’homophobie,
I told you the “who.”
@@Nonalhomophobie Reminder: You CANNOT prove God does not exist. There’s no evidence to disprove His existence. So don’t tell believers to “prove” He exists when you cannot prove He doesn’t. :) Thanks
“Blessed are the undefiled in the way, Who walk in the law of the LORD. Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, And that seek him with the whole heart.”
Psalm 119:1-2 KJV
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Amen
What does the Bible say about not being a virgin female when you get married? If the Bible applies to one, it applies to all.
I don’t understand how the creator of the universe can be “offended”
Adam How he can be offended is when he specifically asks you to not do something and you do it anyway he'll get mad.
Flaming Fury59 it still seams like a bullshit state of mind for an all powerful being,
Adam He is the one that made the rule and he says its wrong all he asks is not do it not hard it doesn't further your lineage you die out right there God wants you to procreate but when you marry.
Paul Harrison Do you realize just how much untouched ground there is really and the populations rise isn't my fault its industry's fault and nature will sort that out along with God.
7.6 billion humans and limited resources are the cause of wars and fighting for those resources.
i'm an athiest but doesnt the bible say that hate is a sin? you're going around preaching hate.
scarlettgeorgia There is nothing hateful about disapproving of a sinful lifestyle.
Alfred Abraham calling people "broken" for a choice they couldn't make isn't hateful?
scarlettgeorgia your an atheist but you read the bible hmmmmmmmmm?
actually... quite a number of atheists were Christians whom read the bible...
TigerPuff22, calling a person broken isn't just hating the sin, it's also hating them
Jesus healed on the Sabbath, pissing off the Pharisees, the rule following hypocrites. Who's to say he wouldn't allow same sex relationships under the right terms?
A good question
To the people who think that being gay is a choice, does that mean when you were young you could have chosen to be gay if you wanted to? If you answer no to that question, why would you think that someone else could or would choose to be gay? I honestly don't know why I am gay, but I do know that it had nothing to do with how my parents raised me. I was nowhere near a "momma's boy". I was actually much closer to my dad and spent more time with him than I did with my mom, and he treated me just like any "normaI" dad would treat his son. I was raised exactly the same way and in the same house as my older brother, who turned out to be straight. And I was never sexually abused when I was a kid. I never even knew anyone who was gay until I was 17. Nothing about my childhood was abnormal or out of the ordinary. If it were as easy as just being a choice, I would have chosen to be straight a long time ago, because the discrimination and hatred that many gay people face has tormented me for most of my life. Because of that, I still haven't accepted myself for being gay, unfortunately, from the time I knew that I was different from other boys when I was around 8-9 years old, all the way up until today. I thank God that there are caring people out there who support and understand the LGBTQ community.
@@Checkpoint73 didn't you frickin read the comment dude
Well sorry to burst your bubble, but repent and ask God for forgiveness and the wisdom and vision to see the truth. Trust me, after that things will get better for you! Good luck.
@@nathandiaz6951 Nathan, don't worry, you didn't burst my bubble. Thank you for the kind words and advice, I really do appreciate your concern, but what I left out of my original comment above is that I have been a faithful, devout Christian for most of my life. I have done all of the things that you suggested I do, many, many times, for a very long time. When I was just 11, I started praying and pleading to God for forgiveness and to deliver me from the same sex attractions I had always felt. When I turned 16 and was able to drive, I started going to church every Sunday. I learned I had to seek salvation in Christ through repentance and faith, and I wholeheartedly accepted Jesus as my personal savior. I'm now almost 40 years old, so unfortunately, I have been waiting a very long time for my prayers to be answered...So now, instead of continuing to wait for something to happen and being constantly disappointed, I think the best thing I could do for myself is to start working on accepting myself for who and what I am, and to try to come to terms with the fact that I will always be gay. I don't think I will ever be able to like being gay, but I guess I can accept it as it is. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop praying, as prayer is one of the keys to living the principle of repentance each day. The Lord told us we are to offer a broken heart and a contrite spirit, and that takes humility. God bless my friend.
@@paint428 they must have deleted the comment you replied to....just curious, do you remember what they said? Thanks 🙂
Hello Friend. you will not be able to remove your attraction to men, because it refers to your body, not your mind. All you can do is just control it. The Lord said through the Apostle Paul: the male-bearers will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
I am bisexual, of course, I have no idea what I would do if I had your body - because you are not attracted to women, that is, you have no godly substitute to satisfy your instinct. I try to nip in the bud the homosexual thoughts that sometimes come to me, because I understand that this is wrong and unnatural. If this is not the case, then in the end, not everything revolves around sex! In a kind and friendly way, I advise you to forget about sex, identifications, orientations altogether. this is all unnecessary nonsense! There is art, cultures of different peoples, technologies, literature - that's what you need to spend time on!
Most likely, God did not give you a craving for a woman so that you devote yourself to creative self-realization! this is a higher goal than procreation. All the best to you, sir. I hope I expressed a useful thought for you.
How can people say that Jesus never addressed homosexuality?
“For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: these are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man” (Matthew 15:19-20).
In these verses, Jesus lists some sins that defile people, among which is fornication. Fornication is any sexual activity that does not consist within scriptural marriage. Hence, homosexuality is fornication, and thus Jesus Christ condemns it.
“But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh” (Mark 10:6-8).
Here Jesus explains the natural order that God made in Genesis: “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh” (Genesis 2:24). God designed men to be married to women, and women to men. Sodomy between two men is therefore a perversion of nature, an abomination in God’s sight. In Romans 1:26, Paul condemns changing “the natural use into that which is against nature.”
About your second claim...
HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT SEX!!!
LastTriforce agreed
I think people don’t fully grasp the horrible pain our Lord Jesus Christ suffered on that day. People can say “sure, he was crucified but a ton of people went through being hung on a cross.” No, no, no. It wasn’t just that horrible pain, no, he had the all the sins of the entire world on him. That bad thing you did to your parent the other day? He carried that for you. The rude remark you made at your friend the other day? He died so you could be forgiven. Jesus took all of our sins, each, every, single, one, of, them, and DIED for us. He took those sins and paid the price that needed to be paid for the horrible actions we continue to do every day. Our Heavenly Father, the almighty Creator, our Holy God sent his only son, his beloved son, to our world, our broken, our ruined and sinful world, a world of mortality, sin and death. He became man and God, a combination of both. He lowered himself to us, he became one of us. Except, he was perfect, unlike the rest of us. He didn’t sin. He had every right to go against us. No. He came to our terrible world and taught and showed us the way to Heaven. He made it possible for us to go live with him and the Father for eternity. He brought Heaven to us. Our good works don’t get us to Heaven. The faith that the Holy Spirit inspires in us every day. And even then our Lord wasn’t done! He took all those terrible sins you committed with him as he died on that cross. He went to hell, and conquered the power of the grave, and the dead rose! He did something that is impossible for any imperfect man to do. He did what we could not, he paid the price for us. He saved us. And still, our Triune God, three in One, Father, Son, and Spirit, wasn’t done! He still isn’t done! He continues to give us chance after chance in our lives to believe in him and find the way. He gives those who have found it the ability to help others find that some path too. He nourishes us and others in our faith through us. He uses Christian teachers to spread the great message and word to young children or younger kids. He continues everyday to pull us closer and closer to him. And when we finally die? It’s not the end, we aren’t truly dead, because of him, we are able to live on, but not only that, we are able to become perfect again, like we were meant to be. We are able to become what we were always meant to be before the fall. He did that for us. He gave us the chance to become perfect again. And when you look at the numbers, so few people actually do take that chance, that opportunity he gave to us. Others right out call him names, attempt to shame him, and other terrible deeds. HE DIED FOR YOU! HE STILL LOVES YOU! All those people that attempted to stone him, or whipped him as he carried his cross? HE STILL LOVED THEM SO DEARLY! When we stone him with our harsh words or thoughts against him, what does he do? CONTINUE TO LOVE US!! HIS LOVE NEVER FAILS! IT NEVER WAVERS, THAT SAME LOVE IS THERE! Do you realize how much it must hurt for our Holy Triune God when people go and just downright insult him? Why? WHY! HE DIED FOR US, HE DIDNT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING FOR US! GOD GAVE US FREE WILLS, AND WHAT DO WE DO? WE DISOBEY HIM DAY BY DAY! WE DO HORRIBLE ACTS, CLAIMING AND SHAMING HIS NAME WITH THEM! WE ARE HORRIBLE AND SINFUL AND JUST DOWNRIGHT NASTY PEOPLE AND CREATURES WHO DOES NOT DESERVE HIS LOVE! But what does he do? He forgives us. When we confess to him our horrible acts, our horrible deeds, he pulls us close to him and tells us that we are forgiven, that our sins have been paid for on the cross that our Lord Jesus Christ died on, and took those terrible sins with him. Our perfect Lord, one who we don’t deserve at all, gave us and continued to give us wonderful gifts that we don’t deserve. Our Lord, our Holy Triune God, is just perfectly amazing. The world adorable? That world only should be used for Jesus. We should adore him. Some do, some don’t. But one thing is for certain: our Holy, almighty God loves us so much we can’t even fathom it. As far as the east is from the west he loves us. The message we all need to hear: Our God loves us so much, he did so much for us and still does. That message, is something I hope gets to many hearts and ears, and helps them realize truly how great our Lord is.
Glory be to God our Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth and Creator of all things. Glory be to the Son, who died for our sins and saved us from eternal damnation. And glory to the Holy Spirit, who nourishes us in our faith and touches the hearts of many. May this message of God touch your heart and help you find him in eternal peace, Amen.
Amen.
I laughed so much reading this
Ps: amen lmao
@@ciawn1218 return to the Lord seek his forgiveness.
But he died a loong time ago he can't die again so all the sins after he died are still there
@@samanthatitus4133 no it doesn't work that way he didn't just do that for the people who were there when he was alive he did it for people in the Future to.
If god hated homosexuality then why did he make it ?
More like, if he created good, why there’s evil. That’s just a wrong question to ask. Simply, if there’s no bad in this life, we would not know whats good, if there’s no darkness, there’s no light
@@ahmedsaeedbj in the other comment you told someone that being gay isn't natural. you know that you can't change your sexuality right? so god just randomly decided that some people have to be the "bad" guys for no reason at all? comparing straight and gay with good and bad isn't really the best comparison if you ask me.
There will be no God
@@ravindranathancp2227 why you came to watch this video then? Why you guys care to watch these videos or religion’s opinion on something like this? It’s either because you know it’s wrong and not natural or because you want a religion that allows homosexuality?
@@ahmedsaeedbj Are you comparing heterosexuality to goodness and homosexuality to evil ? Seriously ?
Homosexuality is not wrong, and it is natural. You fanatics need a reality check, your religion is no excuse or justification for the violence of your speech.
He just called an entire group of people broken with a smile on his face.
@KJV No it's not, vicious sociopath.
@KJV You have no authority to assert what the body should be used for, sociopath. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Your brain is broken. The sexual tract is a sexual organ, starting by the mouth, as usual.
@King James explain why the prostate has sexual stimuli then
Face it people, homosexuality is as natural and normal as heterosexuality or bisexuality. It is something you're BORN with, not a choice. If you naturally are attracted to boys and you're a male, you're a homosexual, PERIOD. You can't 'pray away the gay' without living in self-denial, which is the greatest form of blasphemy. Cursing god for the way he made is is wrong. The word 'homosexuality' isn't in ANY Bible. The other fact is that 99.9% of gay men who claim they were 'saved' will ALWAYS be gay. You can't change your sexuality, and there's simply no reason to. You can still raise a family and get married if you're gay. So don't let the haters talk you in to doing what you know in your heart is wrong -- EX gay is a delusional exercise in futility and self-denial.
Hear hear, Bob Judd!!! Truth & Empathy are on your side!!!
Charles Jones
Your last statement : "I am the only one going to the Scriptures as justification for my argument." indicates that you have little credibility, since the Scriptures have little credibility for anything but an indication of what humans are capable of conceiving & believing sometimes, as well as some fascinating cultural info...
Truth is on Bob Judd's side because his statements about homosexuality are in line with the best scientific consensus by the relevant experts at the moment. Just check out the databases & summary statements of eg the APA (either one!) and get with the reality of this subject!
Charles Jones I was talking about "truth" as in "what is ACTUALLY true in REALITY" as opposed to some kind of internal squabbling within different sects or individuals within a particular religion or similar category. Your argument here smacks of "No True Scotsman" fallacy. It's worthless.
Charles Jones
You are still avoiding my question, where does the bible claim that it is the infallible Word of God?
Charles Jones
I know YOU are, but what am I? (Bart Simpson)
Your "hell" remains an unproven truth-claim, & the Psalms are no authority in themselves.
I'LL SAVE EVERYONE 7 MINUTES: "why is homosexuality wrong?" - "because the bible says so."
Um - the Bible does not say homosexuality is wrong, nor does the original text of the Bible say homosexuality is a sin. Nor did Jesus Christ (God on earth) say 1 word about homosexuality. This man is flat out wrong.
well some believe jesus himself was homosexual. with a male foot fetish. inviting the company of boys, and associating with his harem of 12 men.
+manualLaborer I like how Christians will yell and scream that you are wrong and they are right. But their only response to good points like yours are, "Because the Bible said so,"
lol and that is a total lie and the Bible being taken out of context by these Anti Gay Christians
Right XD All I got from this is
"The bible says that..." and
"In the bible it says..."
"God loves everyone"
Then why the heck he hates homosexuals?!???!
God doesn't hate them. The guy in the video is wrong. He's quoting a passage from the Bible about indecent ancient Romans behaviour and seems to think it's about gays. Even then, he's not saying God hates them, just that it's allegedly a sinful desire that they should "repent" from but doesn't realize it's impossible.
But what God cares about is that you show him gratitude and respect, and to do good and not hurt other people. God made a world rich in diversity and that includes people with differences in who they're attracted to. Rest assured, God is not homofobic.
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@@MusicalRaichu amen
Well if he does exist, he doesn't hate homosexuals, some Christian's hate them because they take everything said in the bible completely literally and don't realise that there were no same sex relationships back then so it wouldn't have been written in the bible because no one knew about it! Some people just have stupid old fashioned opinions
@@billcipher1523 No there were two villages Sodoma and an other one I forgot the name of and God burnt it down.
so ur telling me a healthy relationship between the same sex is a sin; more despicable than hetero married couples where a man abuses his wife? but shouldnt do divorce bc it’s against the Bible? while a healthy relationship bn same sex should break up just cause the Bible says so? just doesnt make sense how love could be wrong.
@Κύκλωπας No, it is not reserved for marriage and not restricted to a man and a woman you sociopath.
@Κύκλωπας It is not, precisely according to reality, where gay marriage is legal in an increasing number of countries. Where is your god to prevent them from happening, douchebag ? Marriage was created by HUMANS and has the definition we decide. The Bible is crap, go back to being quiet.
@Κύκλωπας stop using a mith to spread hate. This "god" who you have never and will never meet is just an excuse to tell me that I'm going to hell for something I can't control. Anyway shut up
John Piper - Why is homosexuality wrong? Real answer John Piper - homosexuality is not wrong, Homosexuality is not and should not be in the Bible and therefore not a sin., as homosexuality is not in original text. Go do some research.
Romans 1:26-28. Read it and tell me what that is.
ryanmacdaddy1000 You should keep reading in Romans and eventually you would have gotten to Romans 6:14 "For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace." When it was our MASTER, it sent us to hell because we had no way of redemption. Now we have one. If you would have kept reading, you would have come upon Romans 8:1-2 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death." We no longer go to hell just because we sin; EVEN HOMOSEXUALITY which is not a sin.
Homosexuality is not a sin.
What does Paul say? Well for one he never mentions love as a sin for same sex couples, but he does say same sex lust, same sex acts in idolotry and same sex acts by heterosexuals (which is unatural) are wrong Thats Rom you refer to....so where do you assume or hope same sex love is addrressed in Romans 1 as sinful? Shown me where the Bible mentions same sex love as a sin or where Jesus mentions any gay sin, I think u know Im right and u have lost this one.
I can show you 3 places in your bible that Paul says not everything he is writing is from God. ! Cor 7:12 "But to the rest I SPEAK, I NOT THE LORD, if any man hath a wife... 1Cor 7:25 "Now concerning virgins, I HAVE NO COMMANDMENT OF THE LORD, yet I give MY judgement..." 2 Cor. 11:17 "That which I speak, I SPEAK NOT AFTER THE LORD, but as in foolishness..."
Paul is saying Men and Women that were straight gave up what was natural to something that was unnatural... If I'm naturally Gay I should be punished for trying to engage in sex with a women which is unnatural for my sexual orientation / preference. Romans engaged in homosexual sex only for pagan worship they were straight men & women engaging in unnatural sexual activities
I hope I answered all your questions.
Oh the Bible says not 1 word about same sex marriage, but does talk about multiple wives, selling, abusing wives (multiple is ok, so Mormons have that correct).
for your information chicraig1 the bible does say it is wrong and it is wrong
AF.Gregory Homosexualty is not / should not be in any Bible. The Bible you read may say homosexuality, but original text does not - just who changed the word of God?
chicraig1 If you're talking about the KJV, yes that's true. It doesn't actually say the term 'homosexuality.' But what DOES it say?
"Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers. For whoremongers, FOR THEM THAT DEFILE THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;" 1 Timothy 1:9-10.
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor ABUSERS OF THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.
What do those capitalized sentences refer to? HOMOSEXUALITY. People having sex with the someone of the same gender. Paul DOES say it's sinful, it IS in the Bible, so YOU'RE the one who's wrong. They aren't in there for nothing. God made man and woman to be one flesh (Genesis 2:24) and when two men and two women have sex with each other, it violates what God had originally intended. Leviticus 18:22 said that that is an abomination to God. Jesus said He didn't come to destroy the law but to fulfill it's purpose (Matthew 5:17). Sorry bud. But like I said, you're the one who's wrong here.
um... i think its the act of rejecting lust that i think we're missing. All sexuality, regardless if you're homosexual or heterosexual, its based of physical attraction. That's it, the reason you look at a certain sex and feel attraction is based off that persons physical demeanor. Obviously not everyone is going to be attracted to the exact same physical qualities because God created us to look physically different. Being heterosexual is not automatically going to get you into heaven PERIOD; there's plenty of straight people who do sexually immoral things in the eyes of God, like having children out of wedlock & adultery. Just like there's gay people who can also commit adultery and commit sexually immoral acts. If you know God and know Jesus died for your sins you would know that worldly things do not matter. All Sexuality is worldly and can be used as another distraction from your connection with God and whats really important. As God's children we shouldn't have so much judgment because we could've easily been in another persons situation just as easily as you are in yours. The sexual lust we all share and feel is not rare and is common in all of us. Lust which is one of the sins the Bible talks about and once you recognize/denounce that your becoming more like the Holy spirit who has no need for worldly things. Initially when God created Adam & Eve they were naked and were not ashamed or aware that their physical state only until after the serpent tricked them they began to FEEL shame and cover themselves. Before that they knew no different between each-other; the devil is going to try to make you FEEL things so that ultimately you would FEEL that God doesn't love you. God just want you to drop how you FEEL & put your all/trust in HIM. I feel like that's the message and unintentional or intentional division is separating us from that, because if you think about it we were ALL born into or out of a result of sin the only one that wasn't was Jesus... just saying. God bless yall
lol
@kaliyah nazir you oke? It sounds that you have some personal/emotional problems you need to talk about with a therapist.
Interesting. I can see the lust playing and is something I had thought it before.
Gay is ok
@@user-lc2zi4dl2o according to your fleshy desires it is
if sexuality is gods idea and he creates everything why did he create gay people if it’s so bad
It's not a sin. God created diversity in his creation.
I am a Christian and I also a gay man secretly. I got married to my wife 4 years ago and this has been incredibly one of the most challenging walks of my life. I don't know how long I can keep going on, but my family is very conservative and have been told countless times that divorce is not an option. My family doesn't know that I am gay but my wife does and she says that I am decent guy and that it would be hard for her to find someone else. I really don't know what to do. I never imagined that life would get so hard getting married and that not being attracted could consume all of me totally. I feel so disoriented many days and I totally immerse myself with work to keep me away from my thoughts and my feelings. To top it all, there is a lot of shame because we don't have children and my parents talk only about it every time we speak. I don't know what the way out is or if there is one.. I've lost my zeal, passion to even live and all I wanted was to live that one person. Share laugh. But that is perhaps too much for me to ask at this point.
I'm sorry you are going through this. The bright side is that you've got your wife's support. Maybe you can take one or more male lovers ? As for children, you can not have any. Your family has nothing to say about it.
@Škoda God does not exist, you seek repentance, a lifetimewould not be enough to atone for your crimes.
@Škoda You roast No one but yourself, sociopath, simply by opening your mouth.
@@BlueSky-ej7xn If I knew what ?
@@BlueSky-ej7xn I don’t care. That is no excuse to post such ignominious comments.
I've seen other videos about what the bible says about homosexuality. I've noticed a theme with other video's claiming the bible says homosexuality is okay. Only difference from your video compared to the other videos I've seen is, there were no mentions about any of of the section of the Bible you spoke on. Which really wasn't a surprise to me. The word of God is phenomenal and I appreciate you sharing what knowledge you have gathered for all to hear. God bless everyone
@equalism 42 If they really loved each other in a romantic way then God would've found way for them to be together since David is a faithful servant. God bless you! God loves you!
@equalism 42 Ok so first things first. Jesus comanded us that we should love EVERYONE as ourselves. In their generation, they only do that on their own family unit. I'm sorry but that's not what the Bible meant as you mean.
David was living under King Saul's palace because he was a good servant to King Saul. Secondly, David loved King Saul's daughter. I'm quite sure that King Saul's daughter was the reward for David's good faithfulness as servant. If they were together, they're just friends. God is good! God bless you!
@equalism 42 For the last time I will say we should actually love EVERYONE as we love ourselves. That passed the love of woman means that David really loved his best friend Jonathan than any marriage including what you think.
Let me explain to you one by one of the verses. This is NIV.
The verse one indicates that they became one in spirit means they will serve the Israelites together. Even in the New Testament says that we should all be in one Spirit.
The verse 2 indicates that they will really serve the world together since David is living under King Saul's roof.
The verse 3 is the promise that Jonathan will protect David with all of his care. This is not marriage. If this is marriage, It would really say in the Bible that they are married. If you actually read most of the Bible's marriages they always indicate the word Marriage.
The verse 4 indicates that this is the passing of ruling. This happens a lot on acient times. A father giving his heirs to his son but Jonathan is the one who gave it to David because he believes that David should be the next one who should take the throne.
Fyi, don't curse.
God is good! God loves you! May God bless you! ^-^
@equalism 42 God made sex as unity. Honestly, I have read this somewhere in Corinthians that sex in marriage is not allowed. God bless you! God loves you the very best!
@equalism 42 Then why would God create woman and not man? God bless you! God loves you!
Well I used to be gay for 25 years and I was completely wrong for living that way. I fully surrounded my gay life for a new life in Christ. When Jesus comes back to Earth all of the homosexuality will be no more. God never supports homosexuality. Man can live however they want even if is sinful. God gave man totally free will to live anyway they want. But if you choose to follow God one must give up sinful life, which Jesus says you must deny yourself, pick up the cross and follow me. The bible says do not be conformed into the world but transform into a new creature in Christ. I am very happy that I gave up my gay life for a new life in Christ.
+Christopher Pickett - glad you found yourself. It reminds me of several friends I have, 2 of them former preachers and married with kids; who finally found who they were - homosexual.
Where in the BIble does it say - 2 of the same sex in a Loving and Committed relationship are sinning?
Homosexuality is not in the original text of the Bible, and God is not hung up on sexuality, but you seem to be.
Leviticus 18:22
"'Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
Leviticus 20:13
"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
1 Corinthians 6:9
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
Jude 1:7
In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
This is just a few scriptures that I know. I know there are more cause I have read the bible several times from Genesis to Revelation. If you have spend some time reading the bible and believe in every word you will also see what God says. God says it very clear to Flee from Sexual immorality (which homosexuality is included of sexual immorality) God's design of marriage is only between one man and one woman. No where in the bible God promotes 2 men having sex together in fact that is why he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Jesus says if you love me obey me. So if God says stay away from homosexuality and man wants to do it anyway does he love God? Man will find any way possible to ignore what God says about homosexuality and continue to sin. I am glad that I changed my gay life to be a man of God. My life have never been better.
+Christopher Pickett Thanks for sharing this powerful testimony. I believe in the coming years we will see God deliver many from this destructive and empty lifestyle. People are just fascinated with it right now, with how Hollywood is promoting it.
+Christopher Pickett God didn't destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of Homosexuality! God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and because of Pride and if I'm not mistaken the men didn't have consensual sex that was rape!
+Christopher Pickett are you sure about that! You said you loved have sex with guys! If I'm not mistaken that's more than one! I have one boyfriend and have only had one! If I was straight I would still be a sinner! No one is perfect only Jesus was perfect! You can say what you want about me and tell me I'm going to hell but I and only I know my relationship with Christ and I'm not about to let anyone tell me he doesn't love me or accept me! I asked Jesus to save me a little over 13 years ago! And the sodom and Gomorrah passage in the bible was about rape because the guys wanted to rape the Angels that was sent to them!
So you say being gay is a sin because God sees two people “correctly” uniting into one flesh as beautiful. Have you demonstrated any reason why it’s required for us to do that other than “because God says so.”? What exactly makes homosexuality a sin?
It isn't. It's just that because of a mistranslation in the Bible, Christians started thinking it was. Of course there's no reason it could be, so the guy in the video hypothesizes that it must be self-idolatry. But he doesn't test his hypothesis scientifically so he has no right to make such a claim.
Of course you can say you will deal with this brokenness so easily. But for us, it is difficult. Lifelong. Dont say easily you will deal with it. You know nothing
Remember. Every person has struggles. Heterosexuals and homosexuals. Heterosexuals can suffer from lust and sexual immorality. Everyone struggles with something. Nobody is alone or different in such a way.
"because The Bible says it is"
Just as it says eating shellfish is wrong. Wearing mixed fabrics is wrong.
Just as it says owning slaves is OK.
Rape is OK as long as you pay a fee to the victim's Father and marry your victim when you're done.
It's appalling how some people use The Bible as a means to justify their bigotry. No wonder people are abandoning religion.
Best comment in this retarded brain washed shit show of a comment section. It is actually terrifying to see how many fucking mole people still exist in this time, accepting this ideology, while portraying it in a sophisticated manner. Like the fact that he phrased in a a polite and coherent way will somehow detract from how utterly disgusting and dangerous the context is.
Well then it is ok
those rules were given to certain people not everybody if your going to be rude your us at least have your facts straight
You can’t use that excuse. Those were rules for others, not us
God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve
Jakir Ali Invalid argument, Try again. Oh and. Hate is a sin in the bible last i checked, that is hating. Good luck making it to that invisable building where you'll be a peseant under the "god" :D
Jakir Ali well eve fucked a snake so adam was pissed and hooked up with steve.
I wonder which bible you are
reading
Jakir Ali the true one.
dayweed85 Can you give reference please.
It’s very hard to talk about this conversation with someone but I like how it’s explained 👍🏽🙏🏽
Practically everything he said was wrong.
"God says it's wrong" is not a valid reason. Jesus said that everything is based on love God and love neighbour which gay people can do too.
He conjectures it's self-worship but provides no evidence. I've known self-worshiping straight people but every gay person I've met was genuine and humble.
Rom 1 doesn't even describe homoxesuality. It's not caused by idolatry, no gay man has "set aside the natural use of the female" which he never even had, and no gay person I've known has "been filled with all kinds of evil".
"It's the result of sin to be broken" is absolute garbage. Maybe listen to other than religious people.
i searched high and low for a part of the bible that says being gay is a sin and found nothing.
@Viktor Petrov do you think i have a bible at my house or something? i just went on the online version of the bible and searched the word "gay"
@Viktor Petrov Those quotes don’t mention being gay and even if they did, sociopath, they never say WHY.
@@Nonalhomophobie Calling someone a sociopath for saying they didn't find something that related "gay" in the bible? You're a disgrace to religion.
@Viktor Petrov Denial is on your side, as usual, sociopath. It is you who are incapable to give a rational argument against homosexuality. You constantly repeat "God's commands" (without ever proving God exists) "natural order" (when there is no such thing and when homosexuality is adamantly part of the animal kingdom) and "it disgusts me" (when there is nothing more biased and immature than believing the world turns around what you like).
@Viktor Petrov I have no need to read that book when there are many more interesting and informative books to read and when this one has been debunked as nothing but crap and fairy tales with no basis in real life or science, sociopath.
Homosexuality is not wrong, your viciousness and homophobia are.
Thank you John. I struggle with same-sex attractions but when I struggle I look to the cross and see Jesus hanging their makes me want to fight. If Jesus sacrifice his life for me to go to heaven then I can sacrifice this sinful lifestyle for him.
Turn that cross 45 degrees, now it's an X that says no to incorrect grammar!
+Ice cream Guru
no matter how you turn the cross is the cross either way.
+MrNwmnmtt You are so wrong. You feel the way you were created by God.... Do not feel punished by the sectarian way of a few close minded christians....
+Orlando Peccora Amen Orlando. Apostates like Piper only cause misery and leave a trail of broken souls in their wake.MrNwmnmtt, There are many resources out their that easily refute John Piper and his damnable heresy.You aren't alone.
Dude don't push it away. If that's how you are then that's how you are. You should embrace it. You can't change it.
right, so let me get this straight, god would rather lead people to suicide and depression, than let them be happy in their own skin, and 7000 people agree. great! just fab!
God is the maker of all things. He created human beings in such a way that only him can truly fill the hole inside of us and bring us infinite joy and happiness. Living a lifestyle that is contrary to his design can therefore lead nowhere but to emptiness and destruction.
arbre tree Wheres your evidence of god?
arbre tree I hope you will change your current mindset to a more open one. It's 2018 and you're still not over the fact that some people are gay?
Let me help you out here: You don't want to be that one KKK guy 50 years after the civil rights act, right?
While some people invent electric cars, others fight for freedom in their countries and others find the cure for cancer or Alzheimer's, you will be known for preventing gay people from getting married because of something ... oh ... that's so impressive!
Congratulations on making the world a better place, bud!
arbre tree
+England is my city You're right, there is no evidence of God and there will never be.
It is a belief otherwise what merit would there be to believe on him if there were irrefutable evidence of his existence?
Everybody has different opinions. At the end of the day you cannot change how anyone is. Get over it.
@Djk Ksp We know it is NOT wrongto be gay, precisely.
If you are talking about the verse where Paul calls homosexuality unsound doctrine, he is referencing adultery in the original Latin. Homosexuality was not the same back then and was commonly viewed as prostitution and sexual immorality. The other time Paul directly says anything about homosexuality is when he says a word historically translated as "child molester." The specific verses you give sound closer to Sedo-Masochism and adultery, which can be separated from homosexuality as a concept by itself. Harming someone because it makes you feel horny is lustful and full of idolatry, but assuming that 2 people can not be as one flesh because of their gender is ignorant of a couple of facts. The prostate is regarded as a purely sexual organ, and with condoms and lubricant, it can be accessed through the anus without harm to either person. My question is why would God design humans with the ability to gain pleasure through this means? There are no other reasons I can think of other than it was intentionally placed there at just the right distance so that same-sex couples could enjoy what God intended to be possible for anyone. Intersex people are born with a conjoined set of parts or two separate parts of both genders. Are they not allowed to have sex with regular people? Would you rather doctors mutilate them to look "normal?" Many species that God has created are able to reproduce with one single gender but between 2 individuals. I wonder if this is considered unnatural to you as well. Is it inconceivable that gender was a deformity that developed in our genetics because of our sin? Paul is talking about leaving natural relations for unnatural ones, not homosexuality. Genesis could be describing men and women as a role rather than a separate gender, but the translation was lost over time. We don't even have the original bible, much less what the people originally said at the time of Genesis. It would make sense because men have breasts that don't function, and men start out with underdeveloped vaginas during the fetal stages. I don't think that alone can make the argument though, so it falls on this. Why would a loving God intentionally make half the people on earth unavailable when his intention was to give humankind companionship. It would not be fair to make men fall in love only to forcibly break their hearts because of genetics. And so, I could imagine an all-knowing God creating humans with both parts, and knowing it would eventually be split into two genders, he created a way to access the prostate. This allows them to become one flesh as intended at design. While I can not prove or disprove that this was the intention, it is more thought-through and more conceivable than a God who intentionally breaks the hearts of a couple because of a design flaw.
God designed sex, so we could procreate, same sex can't procreate, so it's against design.
The prostate gland is a male reproductive organ whose main function is to secrete prostate fluid, one of the components of semen. The muscles of the prostate gland also help propel this seminal fluid into the urethra during ejaculation.
This is the reason for prostate glands existence, God did not design it, so butt stuff would be enjoyable.
@King James Homosexuality has always been the same, and it is above your stupid fantasy book, sociopath.
No reason to prohibit it, and no sense in trying to prohibit it, since it exists regardless of your pathetic feelings.
God is love but he is also a righteous God! 🙏🙋♀️ we are in the last days Jesus is coming soon, for his church without a spot or a wrinkle...If u have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour he has given u the power and authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy nothing will ever harm you, it's a spiritual battle that only u can fight with Gods power...Blessings my brothers and sisters...keep fighting the good fight.
@@wickedness_666 God is real just look around u and u will see everything is made by him! Everything u have said I rebuke it in The name of Jesus, and there is power in his name....God bless you!!! Jesus loves you!!🙏🙋♀️
All right mija. Whatever you say!
I am a child of the most high God👑
@@rosaanguiano7364 More power to you! Right on! Keep praising, and worshipping your savior!
Its your judgement thats a sin, two people in love is not a sin. Where in the Bible does it say, two of the same sex in a loving and committed relationship are sinning?
This is all gender based, male / female. What do you do with people born both sexes, intersex (AIS)? They were created by God, yet at birth, with your concept of the Bible, sin for the rest of their lives, no matter what they do. We know God does not create sin. This along proves your take on Cor, Rom, Tim is incorrect - homosexuality is not a sin.
Why is homosexuality wrong? It isn't.
Gosh, that was easy.
Good argument im gonna murder someone and try that defense.
genesis204
If you can't tell the difference between falling in love with someone of the same gender and murdering someone, then the real victim here is you.
Just because you say it isn't wrong doesn't make it ok.
N Plutonium Just because you think it isn't okay doesn't mean the rest of us are going to change anything about our lives as we go about loving our families.
If a heterosexual man choses to sin.. He will sleep with every women. If he chooses God's way... He will marry a woman.
If a homosexual man sins.. He will sleep with every men.
If he chooses God's way.. He can't marry A MAN.
It's just not fair how there is no choice for homosexuals to be with someone of the same sex and be God's way.
A heterosexual man can marry one gender and be sinfull or God's way.
There is none for homosexuals.
If they choose 'Gods way' they lie to themselves and lie to their partner which is also a sin.
How is this even a question bruh? The bible says no.
No it does not. You are just reading it your own hateful way.
@@Nonalhomophobie It does. You're just reading it in your own demonic way.
@Kosher Shut up, sociopath:
@Kosher because non-hetero people are suffering because of people like you.
@@Nonalhomophobie Your arrogance blinds you, for it says it so many times in the Bible Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:18-32 and more.
Reason 3 (starting at 2:35) made me wonder, Is masturbation also considered a homosexual act? Cuz then I'd be super gay.
Marco Schaub He says there are other kinds (starting at 3:28) so you are not gay, yet anyways..
Beth Matsuda I'm not gay. Sometimes I wish I were gay. I think it would make things easier. But I wasn't born gay, so I can't become gay. It's not like it's a choice.
Also, at 5:21 he claims it's unnatural, which is clearly wrong. There have been over 500 species discovered that show homosexual behavior.
At 5:25 he displays a somewhat troublesome opinion. He says that heterosexuality can be sin or holy, but homosexuality can only be sin or chaste. So he admits that the inclination to homosexuality is not a choice. But his answer basically is "though luck, god made you gay, but god hates gays, so you better come to terms with your brokenness".
Marco Schaub Its more than unnatural it is an abomination! to GOD ! its disgusting act of perversion and depravity. Sinful in every way/
Fluffymuffy Pelican So? What of it? No one forces you to be gay. Just let them live their lives in peace. After all, GOD will torture them for eternity after death. Isn't this enough? Must you hate on them as well while they're alive? Filling your heart with hate is sinfull too, you know. Also, Jesus never mentioned homosexuality once. Should make you wonder.
***** How do you know no one is born gay? Because they don't have homosexual relations? But, surprise(!), I'm going to let that stand. From what we know, even though there is surely a substantial genetic influence, the sexual orientation develops to a large part after birth. However, the sexual orientation forms at an age where children cannot make that choice.
As Jesus once said about Gays
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my favorite quote.
Jesus said he came here to not abolish the law but to full fill it . Everything that is written is God’s word . With that said , God knows we are not perfect and we are fallen and sinful ... so he gave us a way out through Jesus . If you accept Jesus as your lord and Savior, I promise you that God will renew you from the inside and out . Trust me . He did it to me
@@dsanti4069 Everything written? Even the passages that state you should not eat shellfish, wear mixed fabrics, and disabled people go to hell?
@@dsanti4069 I really enjoyed how your explanation is very thorough. I appreciate that. There's just some things I want to mention. For the first two, I think its important to mention that no timeline was given for those two rules to end. If these two rules were only meant to be followed by the Isrealites, there should be notice as to WHEN these people may do these things again (health code improvements allowing for edibility of the food, growth of mixed fabric clothing in the general public). Sadly, its mentioned in such a primitive matter, as though these were just rules made by people. The people basically think about these things in a manner of "Pagan bad. Pagan wear those clothes. Those clothes bad." and "me get sick eating poisonous vein in shellfish. no eat no more". The reason they were added, in my opinion, was because the book was made as a way to help formulate all people in those times to come together as one and live with rules that allow the general public to be as safe as possible with the amount of knowledge they had at that moment. These rules have since not stood the test of time. As for the disabilities part, Im dreadfully confused on how you got to your conclusion. The passage clearly states people with crippled foot and hand as well as hunchbacks and dwarfs may not enter. It was nothing to with spiritual being. And its for sure not one of these "godly riddles" given that isnt clearly stated when this book was supposed to stand the test of time as well as supposedly be the way that will lead to eternal life and death. I'm agnostic, basically all I believe in is a soul, and I'm honestly not against religion as long as its more toxic parts stay within the community it belongs to and not the outside world
suppacoo someone deleted my last comment . The enemy didn’t like what I said . God bless
Paul is talking about Idolatry.
The context of this have to do with Gentiles rejecting the true God to pursue false gods, idolatry and the sexual behavior deceive is orgiastic, not that of a loving caring relationship.
What is condemned is the worship of false gods
Where in the Bible is homosexuality considered a sin? I don't want to offend any Christians, but uh, how exactly is loving one of the same gender "sinning". Don't force or pressure people, try to mold them into who they are not
@Sergei Those passages do not talk about homosexuality and the Bible is no argument anyway.
@Sergei Idiot yourself. They don’t. The Bible has no authority over anything.
Nowhere. There was an ancient prohibition on violation of patriarchal gender norms (now obsolete anyway), a description of pagan revelry alluded to in the video, and a condemnation of "male-bedders". No one knows what male-bedders were for sure, but given what we know about the culture being addressed, it was probably about exploitative secsual acts particularly involving minors.
Unfortunately, the word male-bedders was mistakenly translated as homsoecsuals in an era when we didn't understand what it was and society in general thought it was a disorder. But when research eventually showed it was just a harmless natural variation, since by then it was believed that "the Bible condemns" gays, the church did not want to change its views to accord with research.
So they invented the kind of silly arguments you hear in this video, and other specious ones like because the Bible approves of men and women getting married, God must therefore disapprove of two men or two women getting married.
*well then, I'm going to hell.*
@Samarah Lopez you're an absolute liar.
@@jeffouellette9946 No she's not... bitch.
@@tomasalas1122 You said it!👏👏👏🙏
@Samarah Lopez i hope this is true because im trying so hard not to be gay but its been a part of my life since i was 3
@@tomasalas1122 If God hates gays that much, then he's an arrogant asshole. I disown that piece of crap, whose meaningless to atheists like me. I will not let that psychopathic crack head God judge the gays, lesbians, and transgender people. They deserve to live this life on earth without being judged by idiotic homophobic God worshipping jit weeds, and dirt bags.
I’m so confused because I can’t change how I feel, I don’t like men AT ALL but women 100% and it’s not even the sex but the person :///
pine apple
Don't listen to the other person She's talking out of her ass.
You can change how you feel, millions of people have..
clover sp wdym millions have changed
pine apple
God did not make anyone a homosexual
pine apple
I mean that people have changed their sexualities. Even here on UA-cam, there are thousands of ex-gay testimonies
Jazzmoji !
Hey, !!!
thousands of people have changed their sexualities, just because you like to embrace your warped fetishes doesn't mean others are like you, dimwit
I agree with most points but as opposed to Heterosexual people, Same Sex attrated do not have actually a choice: while hetero can decide to wait for the right person an not indulge in adultery, fornication or pornography, same sex attrated cannot choose to live their emotional-romantic life in a holy way if it is not having a life time lack of romantic love, the choice isnt to wait for the "right person" it is either you you stay single all your life or go out to the world to sin.
@Viktor Petrov Why is it a secret ? Because you fuel stigma against them, sociopath. Heterosexuals don’t have to be secret because they don’t need to.
@Viktor Petrov are you actually stupid? i don't have to explain that people like you are the reason why they have to keep it a secret, right? what kind of idiotic question is that? people get harassed, beat up on the streets, murdered even. just because of something that is not in their control. are you getting hurt because you're straight? no? thought so.
grow the fuck up man.
Claiming (man-made) morals against homosexuality as given from a (invented) god, without any prove , is not only hilarious , its harmful and dangerous.
Homosexuality is a natural healthy born sexual orientation with an evolutionary meaning.
As a Deist I send you a lot human love :)
same-sex behavior has been observed in over 1,500 species. god makes gays to care for orphans.
5:20 umm it's not. Every mammal species has a certain percentage of the population that performs in homosexual activities.
This is just to show female mammals the male strength
You can see dean hamer search about homosexuality in animals
@Jordan - that's why it makes no sense to use "natural" as a synonym for "good" or unnatural as one for "bad". You mark my words.
Damn... animal is ur role model!? The fuck...
Damn... animal is ur role model!? The fuck...
@@cheroshrac378 no. What I was trying to say is nature should not decide what's good or bad- morals should. (NOT religion)
If you’re gay you shouldn’t feel any guilt whatsoever for it.
I disagree being gay is a trial/ punishment for humanity however forgiveness is god but that does not mean to act on those thoughts that is what it means to have faith in god
@@arthurgonser So God wants you to suppress yourself… even though he made you that way?
@@blueischiii1575 he made us to pass all trials given to us and join him in heaven for eternity earth is just where we are tested
I don't understand why religions making gender an issue when temperament and character are more important about a person not gender itself...
actually the idea of homosexual not being allowed was actually a translation error. in the original version said that you will not sex with a young boy but it was translated wrong
@Olufsen Sociopath.
« It says clearly men with men. "
No it doesn't. It's a mistranslation and you agree to go along with it. But even if it did say that, there is no reason why we shouldn't lie with other men.
"Either way, that behavior goes against nature and God's design. Adam and Eve. Get it?"
Homosexuality is observed in nature by thousands of zoologists, but there is not a shred of proof for God or Adam and Eve, whose existence is genetically impossible. So guess again.
@Olufsen Other then bible being completely wrong l. The German bible specifically say young boy. So just because you think your bible is somehow magically capable of correcting mistakes. Your wrong.
It's not translation error.
@@KingPingviini Your only argument is "no" with no proof like a toddler.
@@cosygoose1813 Quite hard to believe they mistranslated all the five references mentioning homosexuality on both Old Testament and New Testament. Very unlikely.
So one German Bible has "young boy"?
While the rest of the other translations has not.
Odds are, is that the German version is mistranslated.
Hello everyone! I have a few questions that I hope you can answer for me.
I also hope we can have a normal conversation without threats, bullying and hatred towards each other. I have always wondered why people who disapprove of LGBTQIA+ seem to only care about this "sin" and not other clearly named sins in the Bible, such as: Temple desecration (Mk 11:15-18 ), hypocrisy (Mt 23:1-36 ), covetousness (Lk 12:15 ), blasphemy (Mt 12:22-37), adultery (Mt 5:27-32), boasting (Mt 6:1-18). Is real, deep love between two men or women really "worse" than the sins clearly mentioned in the Bible? I don't think there is a single person in the world who has never bragged or been greedy or mean to another person - and these actions even have a negative impact on other people, while a relationship between two consenting adults does not.
" He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her" (John 8:7).
With these words I would like to end my remarks and hope for comments.
Well said. I rarely hear pastors talk about gluttony or divorce. Anger is never mentioned as well. Why? My guess is it would offend most of the congregation.
(this is just my personal opinion) it is common in human nature to disapprove of weaknesses that other people have but that you personally do not struggle with. for e.g., someone who has no problem with gluttony would tend to judge more harshly someone who does, likewise with lust, pride, anger, addiction etc - and sexuality. by focusing on other peoples' flaws, you can distract yourself from ever looking within at your flaws in other areas. and the louder you are about it, the more holy u will feel (or just for political or social gain). and that person's 'bible' becomes, selectively, a handful of verses, the ones that make them feel good about themselves.
for that reason, i think that God placed many of the biblical figures and apostles through periods of failings and hardship precisely to lead/prepare them to self-reflection and humility, before they began their ministry proper. (peter and the 11, paul, joseph, moses, david, etc)
what a christian might need to do, first, is to comprehend how fallen we ourselves are (which is part of true repentance), be led/made to confront our own sins. only after years of such struggle against our own flesh, when a Christian has attained to some level of spiritual maturity (when our own Pride -not self-esteem- has been largely put to death, and we no longer desire the praise of man, but only the approval from God. and are grounded in the Bible), only then can they judge/discern wisely and humbly, and also know that sanctification is a life-long process. such a one would know what it means that all the righteousness of man are as filthy rags, and there is no one righteous, not one. (just to make it clear, i am nowhere near there)
as for pastor piper, even though you disagree with his message, you can browse through the *titles* of his written and recorded works, and see that he never isolates homosexuality as the singular bogeyman or punching bag. nor do a lot of other biblically faithful preachers, really. for e.g., you can listen to piper's opinion before the 2020 election to know what he thinks about blasphemy, adultery and boasting. rather, you may be thinking of the more vocal types who make the news.
we are all fellow sojourners, each with our differing struggles, and to be in the race is to recognise what sin is, what Christ did to pay for the penalty of our sins, to have a heart set on turning away from sin (the sinful desires within our flesh), and to set our eyes upon our Lord, and run the race, and to encourage one another to run it.
and that does include warning (because of your affection for them) your brother or sister whom you notice is sinning. discerning whether something is sin and trying to turn others from it is commanded; criticising someone else is what is wrong.
@@meepmeep545 I agree.
"This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
We who believe that the Bible is the Word of God believe that, "...whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it." And every follower of Christ knows that, "we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." But Jesus taught repentance from sin. When he saved a woman from being stoned to death for adultery, saying "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her", he then told her "Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more."
Anyone who believes in Jesus, of course, believes what He says. I've never known anyone who was proud enough to condemn people for one type of sin and ignore the many that we've all willingly committed. I'm sure they're out there, but they're not followers of Christ, and they must be quite rare. The Word of God is plain:
"You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother."
@equalism 42 I don't pray to or believe in a god that would miraculously reveal himself to a man, converting him from an antagonist of God, and give him the Holy Spirit, only to have his word be corrupted and a hinderance again- and for that same god to allow that false teaching to remain next to the living Word of God and confuse every one of His chosen people afterward till the end of time. The God i believe in "is not a God of confusion, but of peace."
If i found any of Paul's Spirit-breathed teaching to be out of line with the Word of God, i would have discounted the whole of scripture. It's written in one of the psalms,
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding"
and i don't care who wrote it, because
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
This is complete shit! I am gay and perfectly healthy. I am loved and feel loved. I don't feel stuck and I am hurting no one. I am not christian and i am gay.
Tanner Classified why did you even watch if the channel said desiring God of you not christian?
U r not Christian and ur Gay? Theirs ur problem
Adrian Perez nah the bible don't say it's a sin if you actually read it lmao
The Redstone Nation It is a sin and God does talk about it in the Bible Go Don't say lies dummy go read the Bible and u will see for urself
ThatDudeInTheComments looks like you care about gay people so much lmao awe you're probably gay too congrats
*Non^Homepbobie* boasts of having relationships with 7 y/olds. When people point out his inappropriate conduct, he becomes hysterical, making ridiculous threats towards anyone who shows concern for the children.
*Non^Homepbobie* says he will never ever stop abusing under-aged children...never will.
Quote me where I ever said that, slandering piece of shit.
Koala said they get their information from a talking frog and eats pooh.
@Wombat your th one crying. Grow up.
Atheist, pro gays. Can't you guys read the title? It's a Christian video, obviously.
Well obviously ur not a atheist cause ur watching this
+Jerry Reiter Absolutely.... We are christians believing the message of Jesus... only the exclusivists sectarian "so cold christian" do not understand that God has made us all of us unique and sexuality will never be a sin.....
+Jerry Reiter I'm pretty sure "homophobia" is the "gaycism" you're referring to lol
Where in the BIble does it say - 2 of the same sex in a Loving and Committed relationship are sinning?
I am not talking about lust, prostitution, pederasty, idolatry; ya know what Paul was talking about, noop, I'm talking about Love what Jesus Christ taught.
Omg
How does evolution explain homosexuality? Homosexuality would be a huge problem for the existence our species.
it wouldnt be. we could argue from different prospectives but it would all just be a plain theory. for example, homosexuality could be explained as population control and i can defend that position.
Homosexuality is part of the massive SOCIAL role of the sex-drive in human beings... and, since humanity's SOCIETY is our major superweapon in the Natural Selection battle, the thing that supports and protects our young to survive to be able to produce the next generation... that's all the evolutionary justification you need.
You can't reproduce in a homosexual relationship. Children need male and female role models in their lives for many reasons. In reference to population control, people can have heterosexual relationships and not have children. Or even better adopt a parent-less child. No one has a good excuse to defend homosexuality, we all know deep down that it is wrong, we just choose to deny that knowledge.
***** your points are irrelevant and/or untrue.
1. In SOCIAL animals, like humans, it is no longer necessary for every individual to reproduce... a subset of breeders is all that's required, since the SOCIETY greatly increases the chances that the brood will survive to create the NEXT generation, and so on.
2. The evidence is that children DO NOT particularly need a mother and a father for gender-role-modelling; extended family will do. What is most necessary in parenting is the mental and emotional stability of the parents and their relationship. ..
Cf www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/parenting.aspx
3. Your final statenent is just the intellectually empty voice of your homophobia... and, in these enlightened times, there is NO excuse for homophobia any more. None.
taofist In response to part 3 - I am not homophobic. It does not actually directly affect my life in the slightest if one would like to have sexual intercourse with another of the same sex. It is not up to me to judge anyone, nor is it up to anyone in fact, to pass judgement on another. My intention would be to treat a homosexual exactly like I would treat my best friend. My 'job' as a Christian is to spread the word of the Bible, and the Bible says homosexuality is wrong. You can call it homophobic if you like, but just because someone tells you something you do not like or agree with, does not make them against you or hate you. If my parent tells me that I should not hit another child, does that mean that my parents do not like me because they tell me what they believe is right? Or is it because they care about me and that child and don't want that child to be hurt and don't want me to grow up being violent?
In my view, being unhappy or offended by Christian 'rules' and thus not following them is analogous to teenagers sulking because their parents tell them they can't do something because they say that it is wrong, but the naive teenager thinks they know best and do it any way. Then they often find out the hard way.
5:26 he’s pretty much saying someone who is homosexual, has the same sexual struggles as a heterosexual. Then he goes on to say that someone who is homosexual can either rewire themselves into being heterosexual or not be in a homosexual relationship meaning they can’t have an intimate relationship.
This makes me very upset and angry. As a lesbian, born in a highly influential Christian family with an immense amount of pressure to be straight, I know I can’t change to be heterosexual. I also know I just can’t live my whole life without love.
It’s definitely not the “truth” making me angry; it’s this opinion on homosexuality. I said my sexuality to say first hand that I know you can’t change who you love. And by living without love, I mean living without a significant other/partner/lover not a relationship with God.
Also to be clear being gay won’t send me to hell, not being a Christian will (Ephesians 2:8). Like I said I grew up in a Christian home so I know my stuff. I’ve literally heard every argument there is against homosexuality and still, personally, I believe it’s definitely not wrong.
@BorisEverything you say is your sick opinion, sociopath.
@Kosher If being gay or lesbian it’s a sin and it needs to be changed then why would God permit such people to be. Personally being raised on Christianity and also loving God with all my heart for many years and never being called out or “changed” because of my sexuality. Don’t send the wrong message to people and judge them by the bibble without knowing what God is doing or thinks. The bibble doesn’t specify details of LGBT because at that time it wasn’t known (the times of when it was written) and also because there isn’t an exact explanation for it. It’s all based on interpretation. God knows the heart and knows every single person. The sin will lie when you are not being honest with who you are and what you feel. You can’t force people into changing who they are. God will if he wants to once we ask him to, and trust me if there is no change then God is the one judging not us.
@Kosher So.... could straight people be rewired to be homosexuals ? From thousands of experiments with failed conversion therapy, you've got to admit that it's not possible to change someone's sexual orientation, even when you, homophobes, invoke god's power and make them reborn as Christians. Do you praise asexuality then? Do you know they're part of the LGBTQ+ community aswell? And why do you feel the need to tell people you're straight? Why do you walk in the street holding hands with someone from the opposite sex? Why do you talk about your wife/husband when you discuss with coworkers? Because it's part of your identity. Don't use your religion to hate people. Love thy neighbor.
Shut up, homophobic nerd. Love is love.
Those that condemn others are *only* condemning themselves.
Actually... God is judge and HE ONLY has the right and the knowledge to decide who is worthy to enter His kingdom. HE can read our hearts, knows when we make mistakes, understands when we are hurt... WE have been given the opportunity and the ability to understand what sin is, and to choose whom and what we want to follow...
My biggest issue is stubbornness, wanting to do everything my way, myself, even when I don't have the strength... as I let go of that self pride, in bits and pieces at a time, I find more fulfillment than I thought possible... and I have so much more room to GROW...
LISTEN TO HIM. The voice of His Spirit will tell you, in whispers or in lighning, when you err. Let God and Jesus Christ lead you. Do not be deceived by desire and the lies of the adversary, who is clever and very happy when someone takes his bait and walks down paths hidden in shadow, thinking they are in the light... until it is too late and the light is proven to be false.
I pray that all of us seeking Jesus Christ will be granted strength and understanding to hang on and stay on the straight and narrow path...
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@@IMChrysalis There are no passages in the Gospels in which Jesus condemned homosexuality.
Jesus died for our sins, *not* our sexuality.
@@DebbyEvansIn exodus I remember reading about the daughters who were rescued from the town full of men having sex with others and God said it was an abomination. And didn’t the town burn because he set fire to it?
@@marchbros-bk9hp The way we use the Bible doesn't reveal God's character, it reveals ours.
As soon as he mentioned the Bible I was done. Give a real reason please.
1. Natural human behavior involves the behavior necessary for the survival of the species.
2. Any behavior that would destroy the species is unnatural.
dar win No it wouldn't. Gay people can have kids. You don't have to have sex to make babies. And so what if it's unnatural? So is you computer and you still use it.
***** That is the most dysfunctional reasoning and logic I have heard lately. :D
Lelouch Di Britannia
Faith is a breeding ground for all kinds of crazyness. You can justify homophobia, racism, nazism, suicide bombings, torture, whatever you want, because if you DON'T base your knowledge on rationality and emperical evidence, then all that is left is faith, and with faith you can justify absolutely anything.
The most important thing is the planet we live on and everything in it. Because without it, we would not exist or be able to live. One day I hope people throw away religion and focus on making the world better instead of, for example, judge someone by who they love.
dar win
no thats not true about 'Any behavior that would destroy the species is unnatural.' its natural to fall in love with a person. that's why we are not animals.
I am so confused this video is just causing so much hate between Christians and homosexuals why can’t we all just love each other and except our differences I am a Christian and I am not homophobic I just wanted everyone to just live in harmony and not argue which side is right god said to love one another and that is what we should do not hate one another because of our sexuality , race or gender.I just wish for a world were everyone can truly co exist in harmony.
"So much hate between Christians and homosexuals" Then what do we do about Christian homosexuals ? Are they hating themselves ?
Non à l'homophobie no christian hate homosexuals
We like the sinner and try to avoid the sin
@@2002THEBOY Homosexuality is NOT a sin. You can surgarcoat it the way you want, hating homosexuality = hating homosexuals.
Why are you trying to sugarcoat it
Just be straight up
Tell people what the Bible really says about it
I like the way you're dodging what the Bible really says
Did you know God destroyed nations in the past because the people did not speak out against evil.
So my advice is stop sugar coating it
I don’t understand why you can’t just love who you want to love? How does loving someone of the same gender interfere with your love of god? There is other things that are considered as sins like Leviticus 11:8 “You may not eat the meat of these animals or even touch there carcasses”, Leviticus 11:10 “You must never eat animals from the sea or rivers that do not have both fins and scales”, Leviticus 19:28 “… do not mark your skin with tattoos” Leviticus 19:27 “Do not trim of the hair on your temples or trim your beards” there is other “sins” that are said in the bible that no one follows but we decide to grab subtle phrases that make it seem god is against homosexuality
This video is full of mistakes:
- "it's wrong because God says" so fails to answer the question he was asked. God is not in the habit of expecting us to follow random rules just on his say so. galatians 5 - in Christ we have freedom from rules. we obey God by doing good and avoiding harm.
- complementary-ism has been debunked, check out Jim Brownson's talk on the issue. it's not in the bible, it's a made-up idea to promote patriarchal attitudes towards women.
- Rom 1 says that ancient roman idolatrous straight males were doing shameful things. that neither says that all same-secs acts are sinful, nor does it say that people attracted to the same secs are idolaters.
- there is no empirical evidence that it's self-idolatry. i've known humble gay people who were a pleasure to be with, while every self-worshipping person i've known has been straight.
God is NOT against homoxesuality. God wants us to show him respect, trust and gratitude, and he wants us to do good and not hurt other people. That's the test for whether something is right or wrong.
Here's a much better video on the topic:
ua-cam.com/video/zW5ZZtdziwU/v-deo.html
@Кремль Your god does not exist. And there is nothing wrong with lust, sociopath.
Um can I just say why do even care like if two men were sleeping together that’s like none of your business it’s not affecting you in the slightest
if a christian says homosexuality is a sin, its not affecting you in the slightest either, unless your a snowflake getting offended so easily lmaoo
@@user-zi5ur1hh5i There is such thing as harassment, moron.
@@user-zi5ur1hh5i that's verbal abuse dear, get your facts right 🤗
@@boribbora i have a video of gay people saying "your religion is gonna die off soon, kill yourself" and you consider yourself tolerant 😂😂
@@Nonalhomophobie how is that harassment, he wasn't aggressively pressuring you by saying its a sin, its his opinion and belief you fucking moron
I loved this, thank you! I love how simply you state it; that we are all broken as a result of sin, not that our brokenness IS sin. I don't always understand why I feel same sex attraction sometimes, especially since it appeared later in my life (although some of it is directly related to a negative past with men). There is so much freedom in not overanalyzing but keeping my eyes on Jesus and trusting him. Obedience to God is ALWAYS worth it for those who love him. He is my first love, whether I am single the rest of my life or not :)
Alice Hiemstra Would you rather be with a person because religion says so or with a person you truly love?
Anonymous Nameless Thank you for your question! I guess I would answer that by saying first and foremost, the one I truly love is God. He has my heart first. I am not choosing this life merely because "religion says so". I think God wants our heart first and everything else follows. I believe people who choose celibacy or a non-gay lifestyle who do not have a relationship with Jesus are COMPLETELY missing the point! I can only operate out of my love for Christ. Any other way is destructive and not of the Lord. When I operate out of shame or a desire that is not my own--and not just in sexuality--it is not truly God's desire for me. He desires obedience, but from a heart of thanks and love. Does that make sense? And just to be clear, same-sex attraction is more new for me. I do not want to pretend that my choice contains the same amount of difficulty as someone who has had same-sex attraction, and ONLY same-sex attraction. That is not my story; the Lord has helped me forgive the men in my life and look forward to a relationship with a Godly man someday. My same-sex attraction was based on the belief that women would never hurt me the way men had. There was a good year where I thought I could never be in a relationship with a man; that I could never trust their intentions and would live in marriage wrought with fear. I had to surrender my fears to God and trust HIS intentions with me, whether that was single or married. I am very aware that in a lot of ways this makes it easier for me. I am now in a place where I am very content in my singleness, but open and excited about a future with a man. I still experience same-sex attraction sometimes and imagine it will not magically go away. I am sorry for such a long response! Please feel free to ask me about any of that, and know that I truly believe that a decision like this (based on religious text, not other personal reasons) should ONLY come after a committed relationship with Jesus, not before.
Alice Hiemstra Its completely your choice to put God in top of your loved one list. But i hope you understand also people who dont do that. Many are afraid to be alone in this world and are choosing differently. I think its 'great' that you have had attraction to same sex so you understand the 'problem' far more than other people who have never experienced that. My personal choice is to stay the way i am and love who ever i want. I dont think there is anything wrong with me, i dont think i am a bad person. But if i am doomed to Hell for living this life with my own rules, then so be it. Thanks for interesting response!
+Alice Hiemstra Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. And you are free to live however you want but you won't be happy if you don't live up to your desires.
This way of thinking is messed up and I'm suprised no one can see it... we aren't broken, nor are we inherently bad beings. Heck, humans are one if the only animals who are born with the concept of sympathy and it is in our genes to care for one another yet somehow Christianity claims were are little ticking time bombs when in reality.... "children of Christ" have caused more pain and suffering than any other religion throughout history
Most people in the comments saying ""how well he explained this"" he quite literally said that being gay is a sin and you should go to hell for that, that if you're gay, you're broken and unfunctional and you're a distortion to sexuality that apparently God created
You can see homosexuality in many many species of animals, and if God created everything therefore he created homosexuality
It is not a choice you can make to love to opposite gender, you are born this way
@@olufsen8394Actually homosexuality IS found in all animal species and it is not a sin, psychotic sociopath.
@@olufsen8394 You're the one who claimed homosexuality is unnatural, which is an appeal to nature fallacy. We simply pointed out you are wrong and you then resorted to a strawman fallacy by pretending we claim homosexuality is acceptable because animals do it, which is not what we said. I made a fool of you again and I will keep doing so, because you make it too easy and because you are a dangerous beast on the lose and we need to show you we are not bowing to your madness.
Kindly stop using the names I picked for you against me, be original at least, vicious sociopath and psychopath.
There is no such thing as sin, and homosexuality is therefore not one. There is nothing wrong with it.
Nothing I say proves the Bible and science disproves it. Fuck your non-existing god, I do whatever I want with my body and with whom I please as long as there is consent. My freedom of acts roasted your pathetic existence again, and I remain the victor.
I have a question sir if you did this sin and you stoped doing it and you changed and asked for forgiveness will you go into the kingdom
If you regret it and you regret All your sins then you should
Matthew 22.40. God's commands boil down to 1 showing God respect, trust and gratitude and 2 doing good and not hurting other people. It has nothing to do with your orientation and who you do or do not have the capacity to love.
Yes if u repent of ur sins and stop and follow Jesus
I think we ALL should learn how to think and not what to think.
Antonio E boh 👏👏👏👏👏 100% agreed.
Absolutely! I wish I had a Christians "KNOWLEDGE" of God, with an atheists reasoning of it.
Joshua Nicholls I wouldn't go that far. They have been brain washed bro. They live in fear and denial of common sense. But they have been brainwashed. As an escapee of the Pentecostal CULT, trust me when I say, Its VERY difficult to get out of it.
Have a little more understanding in that they have quite literally been brought up in a cult that forces them to remain in fear and servitude. They are sheep, yes. But let's be grateful that we aren't them and that we were gifted with common sense.
I would (go that far).
We are not brainwashed we are christians because we choose to be
2,476 people don't care what God says...smh....church we gotta live/do better by living and breathing out God's word
demonstrate that your god exists and we will care.
demonstrate that George Washigton, Enstein, or Darwin exist and I will show you how my God exist
are you really this stupid? youre comparing a fictional being with real people? im sure youre one of those idiots who are gonna say that they dont believe that my boyfriend exists just because they havent seen him. do you understand that that make your god claims even more retarded? do you understand that you have even less reason to believe in god? we have records that prove that they existed. god has the bible and its contradictions and factual errors. you cant possibly be serious.MarlowDub116
dayweed85 immaturity at its finest, i called you no names and you try and go off. You can attest to the assistance of your boyfriend. hold on, you said "we have records that prove they existed." we have over 9,000 manuscripts that say that the people of the bible existed and the writing of Josephus, St. Agustin and many more philosophers. List your contradictions and i bet you i can refute each one of them. The bible has no contradictions if kept in context.
This was really helpful thank you! I think your humble and respectful approach is really great!
No it is not. It is a bunch of nonsense encouraging hatred and persecution of a minority.
Jesus Christ GAY....never left legacy.
@@wesblood3620 nah this is crazy what u just said
@@x_ban Prove different. Gay.
Zero children because he was GAY.
@@x_ban Not only GAY....but a sexist too....see any women at his gatherings.
Any women at his last Supper?
That is because he was GAY.
Anybody can you please tell me were in the bible it says the lord made Adam for Adam & eve for eve please I'll wait💯
Adam and Eve never existed.
I'm a Homosexual, and I am laughing because half of all the people are saying that God hates us Homosexuals, and how they want us to "join" "God", and if I'm going to Hell, I'm getting a girlfriend first.
- A Homosexual Girl.
You do you girl :)
You go girl!
Well first I think you have this all wrong, God loves homosexuals and if anyone tells you he hates homosexuals then they are wrong! God loves them but not there sin and same with me I love and respect the people but not what they believe or stand for
Broken Flame no god doesn't fucking love homosexuals. are you fucking kidding?
Dark Paladin buddy the Bible says other wise the Bible says he loves all you learn what your talking about then we can talk
"Why is homosexuality wrong?"
Why is being tall wrong?
Why is being left-handed wrong?
Why is being blonde wrong?
The obvious answer, to the rational and educated is: none of these innate traits ARE wrong.
But don't act on your left-handedness because that's an abomination. And when you reach the 296 sin point mark, you won't make it into heaven.
Feat. Cicero Prove heaven is real. Prove god is real.
England is my city The evidence for the biblical God surrounds us. Look around you, that's a miracle. God is so great, that proves he's real...
Idk lol why're you asking me?
Feat. Cicero Wow everyone always says this but that is simply not evidence. Try again.
StaryKawaii Co Handedness and Homosexuality are actually connected genetically when it comes to the older brother hypothesis. Blanchard et al. argued that the fraternal birth order effect (the probability that a boy will be homosexual increases with the number of older brothers who have the same biological mother) appears to be limited to right-handed men.
I’m a Christian but what saddened me was when one time during the Sunday service the pastor said that even if a good person was born into this world and lived a good life - didn’t do anything gravely wrong but was not able to know God - let’s say he was born in a place where they aren’t really practicing religion; the point is it wasn’t his conscious decision to not believe in a God he was just not given an opportunity to - then he said he won’t go to Heaven and go to hell. like that’s just sad.. that’s why sometimes I like to believe there is a God but I don’t believe in religion. I’m also bi and i couldn’t understand how something so pure is a sin? murder and stealing is wrong but love? how is that wrong. i have a same sex partner for 5 years now and i can say our relationship is healthier and happier than other heteros out there
@Κύκλωπας It is NOT wrong, you sociopath. God does not exist, and you have no power to prohibit anything YOU hate for no valid reason.
@Κύκλωπας Sssssshhhh, sociopath, or I'll have your comments deleted again.
@Κύκλωπας Our homosexual relationships are love.
You saying it's bad because god apparently said so, just isn't gonna cut it. I simply don't agree with your god. You and god have failed to give actual reasons on why it's bad.
@Кремль There is love in gay relationships, otherwise gay couples would not marry in the countries where they can, douche bag. God does not exist and you do not decide how we can use our bodies. You do not live in reality. You are against it. You gave virtually no argument to anything you have ever said. None.
idk if i'm late but God is fair in His judgment and can be seen in Romans 2 so what the pastor at your church said was wrong, it depends on how much the person knows about God and the truth. if a person was not given the opportunity to know the truth then God will judge without His law. I've asked a former elder in our church about it and he has told me God judges based on what we know and how much knowledge we have of Him
You can t agree with this opinion,why did God then made gay people gay?Being part of the LGBT is not an option you can take and people have to understand this
That's right. God made each one of us different. Even the Bible acknowledges that differences in orientation are different gifts from God 1 Corinthians 7.7. What God asks of you is to treat him with gratitude, trust and respect, and to do good and not hurt others. The idea that you "can't be gay" is not in the Bible, it has been fabricated in modern times.
Here's a better explanation: ua-cam.com/video/zW5ZZtdziwU/v-deo.html
Brilliant exposition! Thank you. And thank you for quoting the Bible at a time when many are no longer interested in what the Bible has to say.
The Bible has nothing to say, and gay is not a sin. That old creep is a fool and a monster by encouraging discrimination against gay people.
Non à I’homophobie,
Read the Bible, it clearly states homosexuality is a sin.
When did he encourage discrimination?
@@whyusodumb2954 Read it yourself, it clearly doesn't state such thing, YOUR hateful interpretation, YOUR opinion.
Non à I’homophobie,
Need I list the verses?
Or let me guess, only those verses were magically mistranslated?
Respect to you Iron-Duke
If you're offended by someone telling you something you're doing is wrong and explaining why in the most respectful and humble way, without ever implying any hatred upon you or forcing you to agree with them. You really need to sit down and ask yourself why.
One cannot explain Biblically what is not there - homosexuality is not a sin in the original text of the Bible.
***** Yes it is... Where did you get that idea? The old testament describes it as an abomination before the lord. i.e it's wrong meaning it's sinful. The word "sin" may or may not be used in reference (I haven't read all the texts. ) but wrong and sin are exactly the same in the bible. The old testament is also known as the Torah; which is jewish text. That has never changed, The Jews made a point to accurately record their texts... so..
Isaac Gukas In the OT it is idolatry that is the sin, not homosexuality. Do not cheery pick a verse without the context.
Abomination has not 1 thing to do with sex - again, context.
Since you like the OT let me cherry pick a few verses and let you - DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.
DEUTERONOMY 22:22
If a married person has sex with someone else's husband or wife, the Bible commands that both adulterers be stoned to death.
LEVITICUS 18:19
The Bible forbids a married couple from having sexual intercourse during a woman's period. If they disobey, both shall be executed.
DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12
If a man gets into a fight with another man and his wife seeks to rescue her husband by grabbing the enemy's genitals, her hand shall be cut off and no pity shall be shown her.
***** Wrong = sin. simple. That's what sin is.. it's anything that's wrong. at least that's the simplified explanation. It's disobeying god's commandments.
Killing is not referred to as a sin in the bible. Does that make it okay?? You and I would both recognise it as sinful or wrong.
I'm gonna apologize in advance for the paragraph that I may write to you now.
I love that you used the word cherry pick.. That's exactly what you did.
Thankyou for sharing those verse.. You haven't achieved what I can see you're trying to do. nice try though. Maybe a few years back that would have phased me. But I know much more now.
You shared Leviticus 18:19... well done. But what about Leviticus 18:22.
"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
(In the same way as the commandment not to kill disobeying this law means you've also sinned..)
Or Leviticus 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
Before you start to talk about the bible, make sure you've read and understand It within correct context.
For example, Yes those are all laws in the bible but not all of them are relevant.
Lets not forget that the OT was originally for the Jews. They were required to abide by each law.
However when jesus came, He fullfilled the Law. i.e He completed everyone of those laws you point out. So they are made null and christians are not required to follow them. Futhermore we live from the perspective of the teachings and likeness of Jesus Christ.. we are christians after all so thats important when reading the OT.
SO recap.. Jesus fullfiled the Law meaning christian are not required to live under those laws.
However those laws that pertain to MORAL law are still relevant; right and wrong still exist.
Homosexuality is under the category of moral law. You and I definitely agree on that. And the bible is very clear on whether it is right or wrong.
Jesus said, "God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his mother and be united with his wife and the two will become one flesh"
Jesus did not offer any other configuration. And Homosexuality was a thing as well then.
Isaac Gukas Your opinions are not Biblical fact - who have you stoned lately?
You use the OT to say homosexuality is a sin (when it is idolatry that is the sin), then you say >"Lets not forget that the OT was originally for the Jews. They were required to abide by each law.
However when jesus came, He fullfilled the Law. "< Guess Jesus only left the part of the OT that you want to still be in force - you pick and choose as I have said.
Then you go and categorize what you think is moral or not - Did Jesus categorize, or even mention homosexuality - no, yet you do.
Then you go back to the OT again - are you mixed up - yes. You use the parts of the Bible you want and ignore others - so typical of so call christians - I'll follow Jesus Christ. thank you. What was it Jesus Christ (God on earth) said about homosexuality - oh ya not 1 word, yet you do.
You are lost - homosexuality is not a sin in the original text of the Bible. Believe as you wish, God gave you free will to be flat out wrong as you are.
Know God loves you same as God loves me - there is no difference in God's love
Bye
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.”
Proverbs 3:5-6 NIV
God is higher and greater than us, we must follow his ways if we want to be saved.
God does not exist, I follow the freakin' ways I please and nobody is yours to save, stupid teenager.
I've always been wondering why Christians are not embarrassed by the fact that there's no God 🤔
FK GAYS
Because we know that people like you are deceived. Why would 2.8 billion believe in something that doesn’t exist? Certainly that calls for some questions.
Also sorry the way I said, “people like you…”
That sounds offensive but I’m really trying to bring a point across
@@That1Guy112 "Why would 2.8 billion believe in something that doesn’t exist?"
Appeal to big numbers fallacy. Just because there are 2.8 billion gullible people who believe in something that does not exist, does not make it real.
@@Nonalhomophobie Say that to all the laws people didn’t know existed. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. After all, we’re still uncovering stuff today
I believe we can't decide or judge who is a sinner or not. It's God who decides it
There is Bible... You know the rules and so do I!
@Sabir stfu
@Sabir jeez calm down kid
@@davedarius7346 hey I agree with you, but you shouldn't call them a criminal, just simply disregard what they said and spread love like Jesus ❤️
@Sabir do u not realize u were sinning as u wrote that comment?
Proverbs 31:30
“Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.”
King James Version (KJV)
Do they still exist?
@@crossblock7772 God and Jesus still exist.
ua-cam.com/video/MMfIp9miB_Y/v-deo.html
The church should stay out people's bedrooms. It's none of anyone's business.