Intercooler + DIY Piping Install Part 1! (Broke & Boosted Ep7)
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Alright I know a lot of you have been waiting for this one, thanks for your patience and enjoy!
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I've got AC and PS.. Seeing your video it should be a lot of "fun" to fit haha
I still dont see how you only have 18k subs :/ you should be at least need to be @ 180k!!
+Coda5610 Agreed. Best car channel in youtube right now.
+yossi126 agreed
+Coda5610 For real! It's so informational and straightforward
Haha I said this exact thing a few months back and it's happening he's already doubled in size from 9k!
+patrick valentine I used to say weekly videos, months ago. Until I realized it's not possible yet to do one every single week. When I skip a week I try my best to do 2 the next week; sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I refuse to upload sub-par (to my standard) content just to get more videos up or get more subscribers.
Sick. U just helped me with 2 things lol. This weekend Gonna be awesome.
Did you get it done?
Rab Malt considering it was 4 years ago most likely
Hey do forget your nitrous
Very well explained Greg. Thanks for breaking down the prices at the end, very helpful. Keep it up!
instablaster.
my mx5 came factoory with no ac or power steering, makes my life so easy for my turbo build haha :P
I know the name of the song that interrupted you at the end of your video! It's called el troquero locochon by Gerardo Ortiz haha sorry my Mexican instinct kicked i when I heard it ha
Tony Bon nice 👍🏾
i like you. you put a lot of work into your vids. u deserve more views and subs!
Thanks man!
I've been just sitting here going through the entire build. Finally understanding how all the parts of the turbo work together (intercooler, wastegate, blowoff valve, etc..). I really want to do a build like this some day when I got some more money lol.
Lost me at street cred
Hey man I've noticed throughout your videos you have some serious lifter tick. there's an easy fix for this. next time you change your oil put some dex 3 in there and the ratio is simple. here's an example approx 3 quarts of oil in the miata put 2 quarts of oil and 1 quart of dex 3. another thing that is just absolutely amazing to run in your miata is Rotella T6 oil. I've owned quite a few miatas and run them all with that na and boosted all year around and I live in Ohio so it can get cold here and it keeps the engine clean and running amazing.
LOL my power steering cooler is bigger than that . ....
awesome build, going to help loads of people. thank you.
4:33 hahahaha I frickin love you man
Nice videos bud! Can't wait to turbo my car (: I got almost everything to turbo it. NO A/C lol I live in Arizona
hey man i want to ty so much for this series wow honestly ty so much, i was looking to do turbo in my 90 miata and i was overwhelm with options and shocked at the prices for turbo kits and scared of cheap turbos from ebay for i am not a millionare to afford a new motor if i blow mine, so this project as budget turbo is just what i wanted for what i see in forums online is like people are too condesendent to newbies like me when i ask question, and you answer them all spectialy drilling the oil pan, superb work, ty so much, right now im doing suspension kit koni and megasquirt, once thats done and i save more money ill do the turbe. ty from Venezuela and ill try to video what i do and ty personaly for knowlege shared here in UA-cam Univerity lol. congrats on your work.
lol where do you live? that mexican music at the end was too funny!
+RUIND I live about 20 minutes from Mexico haha
lolol that explains everything!!
+TheCarPassionChannel You're in Texas?
Evan8D SoCal, San Diego
as Regular car reviews would say "air goes in one turbo and air goes in another turbo and makes BIGGER AIRRRR"
that silicone hose all squeezed between the radiator and the subframe will get a small hole/slash and make a boost leak.
nice videos, you can make it simple to understand even for who barely understands english.
cheers
+Bv1nte I'll probably put a couple little pieces of plastic on it to protect it, but it will most likely take a long time to cause any issue. When you have a turbo Miata you always have to check out all the parts and inspect for and damage or issues, I do it on my other car every 1-2 weeks.
Keep up the videos bud! I just bought the shifter rebuild kit from moss, your videos help alot.
also apropriatley sozed intercoolers with give you far less pressure drop due to the interior volume of the intercooler. cant wait to see some dyno results from ur build
PLEASE HELP!
that big hose on the throttle body what do i do with it if i have a adaptations ecu and a map sensor to go with it ?
do i still tap it in ?
cause if i cover the hole up while the car is one it kills the motor but no problems with the build just dont know what to do? PLEASE help
good commentary and everything in the video i thought it was very well put together! not a miata guy but its great how you kept the video short, but didn't skip any important things at all. also, mighty car mods has a turbo miata build video somewhere if you want to check it out!
yes ive been waiting for this. fuck yeah bring the videos the more the better
Yes!!!! I've been waiting forever for this one
I wonder if heating plastic pipe, balloon it with air pressure, then flatten an shape to better snake through tight spots. Thinking of it as same air flow capable just friendlier dimensions. Eample, 2 1/2 inch pipe formed to 1/2 inch by 6 inch wide (guessing) to sweep over radiator under hood then forms back to the 2 1/2. Point of this question is can the pipe dimensions be altered to equal or greater and still have same result?
Thank yoy for the so much nice information. please tell me is it better to use more metal tube-pipes than silicon connections? i mean, at a silicon elbow is it better to use a metal pipe?
How should I route the vacuum line for the iscv? I have an ms3, would you block off the line, make a bung? I can't find any other info, thanks
still deciding if I should keep power steering and AC or if I shouldn't take them out, hmm...
So glad I don’t have power steering. In fact why did Mazda bother with PS especially on the earlier models?
5:01
Yeah, it's bad for the turbo, but it also makes stutututu noises.
how if na car install front mount ?? is there any bad effect for engine ?
where did you get the BOV & piping?
First off love your videos, nice to see someone trying to do everything the best way they can. My question is, since you're still running a MAF, why did you decide against recirculating the blow off valve?
+Matthew Ammerman If I have difficulties with it, I'll have to recirc it. For now it's just the easiest solution. Good question though, I'll try to remember to cover that in the part 2 video.
Funny outtakes, Greg!😂 Did you see the Turbo Miata build at the Carthrottle- Channel?
+Fuelfoxx I'll have to check it out
I was wondering if most of the parts youve used will work on a 1.8 obviously with some variations on where the engines are differnet but is size and fitmit will most things fit?
Yeah turbocharging the 1.8 and 1.6 are almost identical. The main differences are the manifold and oil feed line.
Hey Greg, can you do the COP install video for standart ecu and ms2?
I just did research and The Turbo Forums website can a cooler be to big and yes it can look it up its easy explained there was many posts on it saying that it makes lag because of the force of air. but check it out let me no what you think man
Curtis Hest big ones block the radiater and yes take longer to spool up. if you want more cooling i'd look into water injection or an evaporative cooling intercooler sprsyer
That intercooler is freakin adorable, good build keep it up !
if i were you i'd consider running washers on the bottom mounting as those bolts are going to end up being pulled through the plastic
Do you have the bolt sizes/thread types by any chance? Mine didn't come with bolts, and I would feel silly walking around the hardware store with an intercooler under my arm!
+Phillip Glass-Hess (Wingman703) LOL before I read your comment I was going to recommend just bringing the IC to the hardware store. Don't feel silly haha. They're probably M5 or M6 bolts.
8:55 you should be careful cutting the support of yous fans :p
Love this broke and boosted series! Subscribed
You forgot to mention you have to play a few games of Tetris first, jk, btw hairspray in between the piping and coupler helps it stick a lot better, which you probably know. Just incase you didn't!
I really love your series!
rewatchin these for research why do u always wear button ups and then roll up the sleeves in so many of them? just wear a tshirt man
Want street cred? Sell Miata and get a real car.... Hahah joking I just had to say that
@TheCarPassionChannel - Have you seen a driverside fender route for the 2.5" piping, if so what are your thoughts? PITA? can you keep the Fender liners?
Love your STREET CRED!
+Troy Sebo Yeah I've seen it, I just didn't want to hack any holes in the car. On part 2 of this video, I have a slight revision for the piping routing.
hey greg, B&B is using stock injectors with the rising rate fuel reg correct?
+Nick Racicot Yep
if the turbo intake is say 2 inches and can only flow "X amount" of air is it still worth it to have the intercooler pipe larger, as the air will condense after passing through?
That things tiny lmao
I'd much rather run the longer 27" intercooler, whatever little airflow you save going smaller is completely wasted by the endtanks and plumbing blocking everything.
If you are using the stock air flow meter while keeping the PCV valve working you absolutely need to plumb it back to the intake manifold like stock. It must be on the pre-turbo side, after the AFM. No breather filter, anywhere.
Otherwise you will have an unmetered air leak at low throttle and vacuum, it will run lean.
+pontiacg445 I went with the smaller intercooler so I didn't have to mess with any of the a/c or p/s lines mostly. Also not worried about the small size, people run no intercooler at all with the boost I'm going to run. On my other car the 27" IC easily cools 15psi in 100 degree ambient temps to below 120 degrees in boost, so this 19" IC should have no problem at all on low boost. Good point on the PCV , I didn't think of that. Since the ECU is in closed loop it shouldn't run lean at idle, but still unmetered air.
Broke and boosted is going to be running stock ecu?!? I thought it was megasquirt... Anyway is it safe to run the motor on stock ecu with all the extra air & fuel? If a person were to follow all of these steps and run on stock ecu and tune would the car still run the same as it did before boost? I'm confused about all of the fuel injection/boost stuff but I am looking foreword to boosting my Miata. Please reply or DM me on Instagram @xxx_kz_xxx
+Kaleb Zweigle Well, I haven't done it yet so it's going to be a learning experience. Plenty of people run boost with the stock ECU.
I've been looking alot into miatas more or less because we'll they're cheap and form what I hear extremely fun rwd cars, I currently have a 2002 acura rsx and my biggest concern is me fitting in a miata, so I figured I'd just ask now you think me being 6'1" and 250 is to big for a miata? I've been reading alot about the "foamectomy" and bolting to the floor and such but if possible I'd like to keep stock seat rails.
lol long questions but I'd like an answer from somone that isn't from a 8 year old forum
+Casey Wise Honestly the best option is probably going to be a complete aftermarket setup with a bucket seat with an aftermarket mounting setup, that will give you both headroom and legroom. Putting a bucket on the stock rails works, but it's hard to make the seat sit lower. I would try to drive a completely stock Miata first and see how it is, the foamectomy will sit you about an inch lower (I used to have it before I went to a bucket seat. I'm 5'10" and I have plenty of headroom. The NC might have a little more room inside since it's bigger so you might want to consider those too, but I know plenty of people that are 6'2"/6'3" driving Miatas, it's all about the seat setup.
Can you do a how to install Manual boost controller please
Alright, so as far as intercooler placement on a Miata goes it's pretty much a no brainer that it goes into the "smile". But here's my question: if you're going boosted and not upgrading your cooling isn't the heat from the intercooler going to diminish the efficiency of your radiator, potentially causing engine overheat?
That's the one thing I still can't wrap my head around with Miata boost builds.
+Totally Legit Gaming [TLEG] Not only the heat from the intercooler, but it also blocks the airflow to the radiator. Keeping turbo cars cool is a constant battle! For street driving it's usually not a big deal but at the track, temps get high fast if your cooling system isn't in order.
+TheCarPassionChannel Right, so it's like I thought. So for a track car you'd place the intercooler someplace else, or even go water-to-air and place it's radiator someplace else?
I have a question here and I would like opinions on my topic... I have a 90 miata fully stock besides coilovers and clutch, I drive 74 miles a day 5days a week for work, would it be a bad idea to run boosted? I was already adding everything to my cart and thought I would get opinions first before setting an order for everything. thank you in advance!
+Fabio Henriques A boosted Miata can be just as reliable AND get the same mpg as a stock Miata, when built correctly. When you're just cruising on the freeway and in the city, you'll barely even notice the turbo is there, and there is no extra strain on the engine. I'd recommend sticking around the 200whp range for maximum longevity (and even at that power level you will want to upgrade to a 1.8L diff).
Hey Greg! How is the Freddy Blow-Off Valve working with Broke and Boosted? Are you happy with its operation?
I ended up not using it, it leaked so bad right out of the box. I talked about it in ep14 I think. No problems thus far running no BOV though.
Street cred 😂
RESPECT++
how did you get your tire and wheel combo to work with your fenders without flares.... after reading through all the forums, they make it seem like its impossible, im about to order some 15x8 et0 but scared it wont work
+Colman Au Bmx Media 15x8 +0 are more aggressive than my 15x9 +16 setup. I used to run with 15x8 +0, if you want to run a 205/50R15 get ready to spend an entire day on fender work.
aha, i was going for 195/50/r15 , but yea, ill be ready aha
What size intercooler are you running on your fast miata?
27x7.5x2.5
I have just started seeing the clip and was liking and you seem to be quite well informed, until you discuse the pipe size and I´m sorry but you are rong, not "the bigger, the better", that is only true in exaust pipes. Remenber that all of that tubbing has to be field with presurized air and that provoque the worst turbo lag you can imagine. We all should do the math in order to make hower turbo system as eficiente as possible.
Don't forget that psi doesn't equal power, the amount of air flowing is what produces power. Bigger piping will just let the air flow easier. Psi is a measure of restriction
Just for the record, "Broke" doesn't come with an RX7. Just sayin...
Where did you get your couplers? Those things are expensive and I'm looking for some cheap(er) silicon ones.
90% of them from an Ebay kit that was around $80 for all the piping, couplers, and clamps. Some individual ones can be found on Ebay for pretty cheap, and if you need a specialty sized one hit up siliconeintakes dot com.
Which wastegate are you using?
recently sold my NA but im coming back to the country and i want to buy another NA but good ones are hard to find so im thinking about getting an NB.. do u know of a channel like yours but works on NB's instead?
btw love your channel
+s Haha not really sure of another channel like mine for NB's, but quite a bit of what I cover will work for NB's as well. OR at least serve as a good guideline.
what do i do with the hose next to the throttle body if i dont have stock ecu ?
when i put my hand over it while running it kills the car
#thatswhatshesaid
hey man quick question if you're not going to run and ECU how are you going to prevent the mass air flow sensor from sensing boost... I might be a bit confused on this topic
+luis moreno I don't really have to worry about the AFM, I think it pretty much maxes out and then you control the fueling with rising fuel pressure in boost. You do need to trick the o2 sensor though, it needs to shut off as soon as it goes into boost. I'll cover that!
hey im doing my miata project and im boosting it and i was wondering if i really needed a newer miata lsd. i have the older lsd (viscous) or whatever its called. im always hearing how i will really need a newer one but they are really expensive. and i was thinking of just welding my diff to make it a little bit stronger but i really need your thoughts on this. I'm not sure if you are running newer miata lsd's
+Johnny Quinones Most people say if you get up to the 200whp level, you need to upgrade to the 94+ diff. I have a 2002 Torsen in mine, 3.9.
How could I do this for a twin turbo car
May I know if the 19"x16" is the core size or includes both inlet and outlets?
I will have a citroen c2 with a 1.4 turbo diesel and it does not have an intercooler, do you think I should fit one as a first mod? (it makes 1,1 bar of boost)
What’s a low boost number
Could you possibly link the items you used for this? I am pricing a turbo build and I can't find a kit that has all of the piping you used.
A lav mic would help with the background noise...
+Blackhole300ZX Thanks I'll have to look into it. I just bought this camera setup so I need to recoup from that first haha. Nice avatar btw.
what piping kit did you use?
I'm going to install my intercooler not connected to anything, just hanging in the front bumper. Street cred...to lazy to install the rest of the kit lol
hey I'm 6'4 240 do you think I would fit in a miata what would you recommend since I want a miata so bad
+iGotFanboys It's all about the seat setup. Bone stock, you're not going to fit very well. In a nice low mounted seat I'm pretty sure you'd be all good. Still going to be a little tight inside because it's just got a small interior.
Bigger piping is also more volume to have to compress and can increase lag, if it's big enough, not going to be an issue with that cute little cooler but with something like my RB25 running 600 x 300 x 80 intercooler large piping can start to cause an issue.
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Ohh man i remember cutting my IC pipes, but i made a bead roller out of a pair of old vise grips !! just had to use a grinder to grind out a notch on the top half of the teeth of it and then weld a little bead on the bottom half and when you clamp it on the welded bead on the vise grip pushes into the notch you cut in the top half and creates actually a pretty decent bead roll. And it didn't cost me a dime !
One recommendation when mountain bov's is preferably you want it closest to the throttle body ( like how Car Passion did ) because that is the first point where surge begins. So the closest you can get the bov to the throttle body the less likely you are to experience surge at the compressor wheel.
+Review Guy Haha genius idea on the bead roller.
+TheCarPassionChannel thanks !
So if you are running a megasquirt you can just straight up delete the afm and the idle speed control valve?
+AMC Casares Yes. Highly recommend deleting the AFM, but if you delete the ISCV and AV the idle is harder to tune, especially on cold start.
A suggestion for saving room, might ad $30-$40 to the budget, but used that coolant reroute video for inspiration. If you want to still use the stock radiator, you can buy those thin 10”-12” fans. Stock fans (mainly the supports) are quite big and cause issues as this video presented
I don't know if someone asked this question already but what about Smog, will it pass it or not when you turbo the Miata.
thoughts on the cx racing diy kits? i read that there turbo kits are not so great, but haven't read anything on their inter-coolers. On one of your videos you had a cs racing inter cooler. so what are your thoughts?
+Classified Recon I would totally run their intercooler kit. IC's and piping are so simple they're hard to mess up, plus it's not like they're exposed to a lot of heat like a manifold.
Hello I love this projet. I'm French and I tune my miata 1.6 nb whit next Time turbo kit td05 . ;-)
When you disconnected the power steering and AC was that permanent? or did you reconnect them after you fit the Intercooler pipes?
+Ethan Griffeth Music I didn't disconnect anything with the p/s or a/c here. What time in the video? maybe I can clear it up.
+TheCarPassionChannel 8:32, I get it now you just moved the p/c feed line out of the way to fit the piping. Cleared it up thanks
hey question that fitting you use is the exact size you needed for the hose because Ima about to order one but not sure . ALSO WHERE DO YOU ORDER YOUR FITTINGS FROM STILL LOOKING FOR THE ONE FOR THE OIL PAN PLEASE LET ME KNOW THANKS
+Anthony Diaz I get pretty much all of the fittings from eBay and Amazon. What's your first question again?
+TheCarPassionChannel my question is the fitting you used for the intercooler next to the throttle body where did you get it from . Also where did you get the one for the oil pan to been looking for it can't find if you really want can you please email me the links of each fitting I only need this for my turbo set up my email is diazanthony300ex@gmail.com please email me them thanks
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What about some junkyard intercooler from some other car?
+Martin Bernath Perfectly acceptable as well, and much cheaper.
Do u need bov and wastegate
greg if one were to do this build identical and not run an intercooler, and that person were to track day their car at autocross events...would we be adding too much stress to the motor or anything? or just be running too rich? or be fine with no intercooler?
You just want to keep the boost low and the ignition conservative. Even at 5psi, the intake temps can get pretty high. Too much boost + no intercooler = detonation.
What's a splash guard?
its got a toothy smile now
Good video. But... the larger the tubing and intercooler, the more volume the turbo has to fill before feeding pressure to the manifold/cylinders.
he heeee
That car has a terrible set up but I like what your doing I'm a do a thumbs up
Des M Agreed, it could have been executed much better. My channel is a continuous learning experience! The setup did work pretty well for being $1200.
So what coupler would fit the throttle body ? A 2,2.25, or 2.5 ?
Omg these vids are like crack when is the next one coming out!!!!
+kah Betancourt Doing some filming today :)
Is it possible to run 3" piping? Thanks.
I find it hard to believe that an intercooler is needed and that it even does anything... but it totally does :P
You should see intake temps with and without an intercooler. An intercooler can easily lower them by 100+ degrees F.
Anyone wanna buy a Garrett T25 turbo? It's off an old Chevy and it's been factory overhauled so the whole inside of the turbo is new... I live in Sacramento but I can have it down in so cal.... So just let me know:) if anyone is interested I'll reply with the link to my CL ad
I'm in socal... Link the post or pm me... I may be interested
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Can you do a head gaskets video?? That be awesome. And please let us know where you buy your parts
+Victor dARKO It's coming up pretty soon :) Got all the parts already.
TheCarPassionChannel Sounds fantastic! can't wait!
Is it still coming?