Brother, this is one of those musics you will never hear again the same way once you know what's happening, and also one of those musics that is so genuinely good with MORE THAN 3 songs references that becomes a rare gem.
I know this is an alternate soundtracks edition, but it is a work of art in its own right. A work at least for my taste with exaggerated level, whether intentional or a moment of inspiration, you have made it one of my favorite OST. Incredible work and masterpiece. Best regards.
yeah s&k alternate has changed quite the bit in the span of about over half a year now, even the reasons why i made this soundtrack changed despite knowing very well that i started this because i was inspired to do an alt ost from woofle/ leila wilson with s3 alternate but then it went to, "because i wanted to", "because i have never finished a personal project before", " because people like to think that the sega genesis/ mega drive is only capable of doing sonic music" yadda yadda whatever still though, i don't often get comments similar to this so this is very much appreciated. thank you
@@jureid4581 the alternate name for this song is "the toilet lock is stuck ultra deluxe edition ft. hatsune miku" and what @jaywarudo is talking about is that John Tay also composed the song used in the Sonic & Tails dancing meme that was funny a while back
i know that "the toilet lock is stuck ultra deluxe edition" is just a joke, but i honestly feel like it still fits even. the way the beginning is pretty much the same as the original the toilet lock is stuck, and then it evolves into something way more. it truly feels like the ultimate version of it, which, well, fits extremely well for being the climax of sonic 3 and knuckles. basically, song good, me like a lot
This is fantastic! I think literally the only real issue I’ve got is if this were theoretically in the game, I don’t think Doomsday is even long enough to hear the whole thing!
@@johntayjinf If I were responsible for implementing it, I'd probably try to cut the song into two sequences, and have a loop for the start until 4:00 (in case you're just really bad at Doomsday yet still have enough rings lol) and then play the 4:01 - 4:25 until you've defeated Eggman, then play the vocal portion as a transition between the final boss and the ending theme
@@johntayjinf Maybe that part could be for the part where Sonic goes down with the master emerald? like a small transition for the death egg robot exploding to the part where Super/Hyper Sonic leave with the master emerald Idk i think that could be really cool
@@sol2457 i personally interpret that part as to after defeating the first blue death egg robot, sonic manages to find robotnik on coincidence as he lets out a sigh of relief and starts to collect his feelings the way i play that part is to not to rush and stay back for a bit until i get ~50 rings and then i start attacking again, so it makes some sort of sense for it to be more hyped up after the more calmer bridge
some people think only traditional songs like with lyrics and actual real instruments and etc are real music, and stuff similar to this is just noise. Which upsets me, because it really isn't.
You may be used to everyone commenting stuff like "This is so awesome" and "this is the greatest music", and rightfully so, but I hope you genuinely understand that, to me, and probably to many others, you're probably one of the greatest composers I've ever listened to.
Ok so I thought of a story that fits pretty well. So here's the story: At the beginning of the song, Sonic is chasing Eggman on that crumbling platform from the end of S&K. As the platform completely crumbles, sonic doesn't know what to do. But then he remembers his mission. As he harnesses his full power, he transforms into hyper sonic. As he destroys Eggman first line of defense. His life flashes before his eyes. He remembers as a child, he wanted to defeat dr eggman. he remembered meeting tails and amy, befriend knuckles his adventure on angel island. and then every mobian on mobius is blinded by a bright white sky. they see the death egg crashing into the ocean. and then, they see a HUGE green glow in the sky. and then a green glowing streak keeps circling the sky. and then, sonic slowly descends towards tails and knuckles. their mission was complete. they saved the world from being a ruined, Metallic mess being lead by dr eggman. they won. for now... (then sonic 4 ep 1 happens.)
You came back swinging! This is freaking perfect, I never get tired of that Toilet Door is Stuck melody in any shape or form! I really wish you the best of luck on your finals, and I can't thank you enough for your stellar S&K Alternate OST!
this is so sick, found this through the full album upload and wow. fell in love with that driving force of a riff and beat. good. shit... you can say that about anything from you though.
this is the actual song ever, i just don't know what else to add really. i guess, uh, expected a bit more references to earlier zones or themes, but being centered around death egg's stuff works just as well
Incredible as always, John! Your music never fails to make my head bop like crazy! This kinda reminds me of how Final Trouble's music was composed, but way over the top better.
Let's hear this song a thousand times, and then a thousand more, and more, and more...nevermind i'm going to hear this MASTERPIECE until my pc explodes! Jokes aside, really really good job man, idk how to explain what this song makes me feel, it really feels like the final battle between Sonic and Robotnik, i almost cry! you've done an incredible job!
Do any of you ever feel like you listen to music that you think is so good but know others won't understand because it's in such a specific niche that it's hard for most other people to really appreciate it? Because that's exactly how I feel about this song lmao
holy shit this is AMAZING john, legitimately sounds like the final boss theme of a real sonic game like the entire thing sent chills down my back im serious,,, absolutely incredible
@@jaywarudo Theoretically possible if you had a driver which implements 4 PCM channels with pitch adjustment in software. Toy Story pulled it off (and even games like Ristar had 2 software PCM channels), though I'm not sure how well that'd work with game logic running at the same time.
I feel like this would be the theme that plays as dark sonic or a boss battle involving him if that was in a classic sonic game. Also just know that this is an absolute masterpiece and I listen to it almost constantly. It fills me with energy like no other song I've ever heard and I love it so so much!!!
I know i already commented like 2 months ago but I keep coming back to this, like. A lot of the S&K alternate soundtrack fits so well, but it’s hard to overestimate how damn well this captures that same feeling of complete and utter urgency that the original Doomsday song did. I can see the battle playing out in my head, it’s that good. I want to make a Sonic 3 A.I.R mod that puts this in, or at least an animatic of this zone on its own. It’s one of those songs that gets me so creatively fired up, and I think you did an amazing job with this whole game’s soundtrack. Hope you get to enjoy other projects and keep making amazing music!
*This fixes the problems I had with this original Doomsday Theme, it did not sound anything like A final boss theme and makes me think the Big Arms theme and Doomsday were accidentally swapped. This actually sounds like A final boss theme!*
I personally like the interpretation that Doomsday zone’s theme is ment to represent Hyper Sonic rather than Eggman. Eggman’s already had his plan ruined, and the entire fight is him desperately trying to run away from Sonic, throwing everything he has to slow him down.
I'm relatively new to music. Started like, a year ago. This song made me want to up my arrangement game SO bad. I don't do good at arranging myself- I practice somewhat, but this song is just on a different level. I cant even begin to imagine how you would arrange this from the ground up, and I've tried recreating it (poorly) in fl studio using the notes in furnace tracker as a base (it didnt go well). This song is genuinely so good that it made me want to get better at arranging singlehandedly. 10/10.
To be honest, it seems this song hits more of a Sonic is in Thunderforce kind of feel as it almost fits. Imagine if Sonic had to fly with the Rynex to chase Dr.Eggman using a Vasteel Dragon?
This is what we call the climax of the game. Sonic's not stopping at DEZ Act 2.5 (Known as Act X in Level Select due to it being a sub-act for the 'final boss'), so he's gone hyper (Or super if you only have 7 emeralds) and is chasing the fat egg through the Doomsday Zone. The song gives you a feeling of power, determination, and hope. Not just because you're Super/Hyper Sonic, but because this is the last zone and act in the game and you need to give it your all. If it didn't work for Doomsday Zone, the super theme slot would be runner-up. BUT IT WORKED FOR THE LAST ZONE OF THE GAME, SO SHUT YO PIEHOLES, HATERS. John, you outdid yourself here! Keep it up!
I made a comment here before that the very obvious riffs taken from other sources took me out of this but honestly the execution is too good for me to really care at this point, this kicks ass.
what the hell is a toilet lock? also this sounds nice. kinda like if you unlocked hyper sonic and then beat the game. sonic literally shrugging off eggman's futile attempts to commit capital greed
I know technically you put more than just the Megadrive sound hardware into this, but it doesn't change the fact that this currently stands as one of my favorite compositions involving those chips of all time. Keep up the good work.
The original Sonic & Knuckles Soundtrack may be more iconic and irreplaceable. But, this, might just be even better in terms of it just being an absolute BANGER!
so sans, madoka, and bocchi walk into a bar...
AND MIKU
I will never hear the music like before....
Brother, this is one of those musics you will never hear again the same way once you know what's happening, and also one of those musics that is so genuinely good with MORE THAN 3 songs references that becomes a rare gem.
correction
"sans, madoka, and bocchi walk into a toilet and the lock gets stuck"
@@vividBloodsucker ft. miku
I LOVE THAT THIS IS A MORE HYPED UP VER OF THE DEATH EGG THEME
0:32 i regret everything
@@Rodri117 why tho :)
IKR IT'S SO FREAKING GOOD I LOVE THE DEATH EGG THEME THIS IS AWESOME
@@Rodri117 mehalohmainaoa
@@Rodri117 Megalovania :D
legend has it that only the combined power of the 7 chaos emeralds can get the toilet lock unstuck
Nah it also needs the master emeralds
Count the super emralds too
@@Sicknism the super emeralds and the normal emeralds are technically the same @AzTheWizzard There is only one
@@2cyne Theres only 1
@@Klotzy4433 bro minor spellibg mistake
2:54 the licc
the Megalovania fakeout into Connect I lmao'd my good sir
actually i think that was pulled out of my subconscious, i don't even remember listening to connect once lol
@@johntayjinf we may have a true genius on our hands...
That was Megalovania? I thought that was some variation of Live and Learn lmao
@johntayjinf how many times are you gonna "accidently" make parts of your songs sound exactly like pre existing ones without knowing?
@@lord_raptorade4853You'd do the same thing when making an original track
im currently thinking about a legendary battle in my head because of this song
thank you
same here
I love to imagine scott pilgrim fighting alongside ramona in these scenes.
Literally the #1 best alternative Sonic zone remix ever, hands down.
Why does miku have to be at the end though. Ruins the whole thing
@@Klotzy4433 does it _really_ though?
@@something7836 not realy, only the end
@@Klotzy4433 well i suppose that's fair.
@@Klotzy4433 you will never be able to hear the end ingame anyways
ABSOLUTE FUCKING BANGER
I'M DEFINITELY GONNA LISTEN TO THIS AT LEAST A THOUSAND TIMES THIS WEEK, IT'S SO FREAKING GOOD
relatable
totally relatable
HYPER relatable
BEYOND relatable
Super relatable
I know this is an alternate soundtracks edition, but it is a work of art in its own right. A work at least for my taste with exaggerated level, whether intentional or a moment of inspiration, you have made it one of my favorite OST. Incredible work and masterpiece. Best regards.
yeah s&k alternate has changed quite the bit in the span of about over half a year now, even the reasons why i made this soundtrack changed despite knowing very well that i started this because i was inspired to do an alt ost from woofle/ leila wilson with s3 alternate
but then it went to, "because i wanted to", "because i have never finished a personal project before", " because people like to think that the sega genesis/ mega drive is only capable of doing sonic music" yadda yadda whatever
still though, i don't often get comments similar to this so this is very much appreciated. thank you
Started as a dumb toilet joke, became an absurdly high quality song
Joke's on you, the song was *always* high quality. Loved hearing it again as the Alternate tracks for Death Egg and I love it so so much here!
john tay doesn't make bad songs literally a shitpost he made is the reason most people know him
I'm out of the loop
@@jureid4581look at John's videos before this one
@@jureid4581 the alternate name for this song is "the toilet lock is stuck ultra deluxe edition
ft. hatsune miku"
and what @jaywarudo is talking about is that John Tay also composed the song used in the Sonic & Tails dancing meme that was funny a while back
i know that "the toilet lock is stuck ultra deluxe edition" is just a joke, but i honestly feel like it still fits even. the way the beginning is pretty much the same as the original the toilet lock is stuck, and then it evolves into something way more. it truly feels like the ultimate version of it, which, well, fits extremely well for being the climax of sonic 3 and knuckles.
basically, song good, me like a lot
2:03 as tears subside in the craziness of it all you realize you must push through.
Lyrics explained by John Tay
世界忘れない
don't forget the world
地球を守る
save the earth
星に願いを
wish upon a star
幸運を
(wishing you) good luck
0:31 these notes are like a musical jumpscare
(a wild sans undertale spawns)
Doomsday fans when Peacenight walks in:
As a Doomsday fan, it's so real
This is fantastic! I think literally the only real issue I’ve got is if this were theoretically in the game, I don’t think Doomsday is even long enough to hear the whole thing!
this is actually true. i tried playing with the music and could get about as far as 2:02 before reaching robotnik. pretty good timing though
@@johntayjinf If I were responsible for implementing it, I'd probably try to cut the song into two sequences, and have a loop for the start until 4:00 (in case you're just really bad at Doomsday yet still have enough rings lol) and then play the 4:01 - 4:25 until you've defeated Eggman, then play the vocal portion as a transition between the final boss and the ending theme
@@johntayjinf Maybe that part could be for the part where Sonic goes down with the master emerald? like a small transition for the death egg robot exploding to the part where Super/Hyper Sonic leave with the master emerald
Idk i think that could be really cool
@@sol2457 i personally interpret that part as to after defeating the first blue death egg robot, sonic manages to find robotnik on coincidence as he lets out a sigh of relief and starts to collect his feelings
the way i play that part is to not to rush and stay back for a bit until i get ~50 rings and then i start attacking again, so it makes some sort of sense for it to be more hyped up after the more calmer bridge
@@johntayjinf Well tbh that makes so much sense, but i feel i need to play this with the music so i can see if it feels like that
The fact that this syncs so well with the Super Mecha Sonic Fight.
i like the part at 4:02 where it's just like "no" and immediately kicks into maximum overdrive, thats fucking hype
Start - Phase 1
1:40 - Phase 2
4:03 - Phase 3
4:24 - Kill Cutscene
YOOOOOOOO! THIS IS SICK AS DOOOMSDAY! I like, when one motive can be in different tones and styles from jazz to freackin 16-BIT ROCK!
WE NOT GETTING OUTTA THE TOILET WITH THIS ONE 💯🔥🔥🗣🗣
Sorry, still busy in the bathroom, *gotta finish listening to this banger*
john tay making some of the best music i've heard in my life:
And it's getting better and better every time
some people think only traditional songs like with lyrics and actual real instruments and etc are real music, and stuff similar to this is just noise.
Which upsets me, because it really isn't.
The toilet door has unstuck and the music is flowing. Keep it up. This is fucking good
You may be used to everyone commenting stuff like "This is so awesome" and "this is the greatest music", and rightfully so, but I hope you genuinely understand that, to me, and probably to many others, you're probably one of the greatest composers I've ever listened to.
1:40 YES I LOVE THIS PART! ITS SO AMAZING!
this is perhaps my favorite instance of the lick ever
John, i'm here to inform you that the melody from 3:24 has been used in the action chain theme from Sonic Frontiers, Update 2.
We can do it together Now!
We can finally open the Toilet Lock
Once and for all
Almost a year and a half later, and this is still Peak John "Joy" Tay Content
After listening to Memories Lost to The Machine and now this, I think I may have found my new favourite chiptune composer
Ok so I thought of a story that fits pretty well. So here's the story: At the beginning of the song, Sonic is chasing Eggman on that crumbling platform from the end of S&K. As the platform completely crumbles, sonic doesn't know what to do. But then he remembers his mission. As he harnesses his full power, he transforms into hyper sonic. As he destroys Eggman first line of defense. His life flashes before his eyes. He remembers as a child, he wanted to defeat dr eggman. he remembered meeting tails and amy, befriend knuckles his adventure on angel island. and then every mobian on mobius is blinded by a bright white sky. they see the death egg crashing into the ocean. and then, they see a HUGE green glow in the sky. and then a green glowing streak keeps circling the sky. and then, sonic slowly descends towards tails and knuckles. their mission was complete. they saved the world from being a ruined, Metallic mess being lead by dr eggman. they won. for now... (then sonic 4 ep 1 happens.)
0:32
Did... my mother just get befriended last night?
WE MAKING IT OUTTA THE DEATH EGG WITH THIS ONE!!! 🔥💯
In all seriousness, incredible work. I'm so glad I found your channel! Never stop rockin'!
just when i thought this couldn't be more fire i heard miku singing
the description didn't lie huh
i like that alt. death egg leitmotif that evolving in progression of this track to absolute perfection
*chef's kiss* Absolute perfection, Tay. Banger!
You came back swinging! This is freaking perfect, I never get tired of that Toilet Door is Stuck melody in any shape or form! I really wish you the best of luck on your finals, and I can't thank you enough for your stellar S&K Alternate OST!
A 16-bit song shouldn’t make me on the verge of tears
this is so sick, found this through the full album upload and wow. fell in love with that driving force of a riff and beat. good. shit... you can say that about anything from you though.
this is the actual song ever, i just don't know what else to add really.
i guess, uh, expected a bit more references to earlier zones or themes, but being centered around death egg's stuff works just as well
flying battery was referenced sort of
Phenomenal. No words. This hits all the right parts of a final boss.
I was waiting for this a long time. Its wonderful
Incredible as always, John! Your music never fails to make my head bop like crazy! This kinda reminds me of how Final Trouble's music was composed, but way over the top better.
The Most Emotional Alternate Track
I n t h e w o r l d :)
Banging! Love it!
Did you just licc at 2:54!?
Sounds so energetic and fun! This is pretty good stuff.
This is the most badass track of all in the alternate playlist. Thanks for providing such a gem to listen to
I'm so happy to hear this. The leitmotifs and when 1:17 kicks in... so nice. Great job on this as always John. ❤️
Ok so listening further in... THERE'S A KEYCHANGE. You madman.
Let's hear this song a thousand times, and then a thousand more, and more, and more...nevermind i'm going to hear this MASTERPIECE until my pc explodes!
Jokes aside, really really good job man, idk how to explain what this song makes me feel, it really feels like the final battle between Sonic and Robotnik, i almost cry! you've done an incredible job!
Do any of you ever feel like you listen to music that you think is so good but know others won't understand because it's in such a specific niche that it's hard for most other people to really appreciate it? Because that's exactly how I feel about this song lmao
This sounds like an Anime Opening! Mind if I take inspiration from this song for my own songwriting? Cos you’ve created something truly genius. 😊
After all this time, the toilet lock remains stuck, perhaps even to the test of time.
holy shit this is AMAZING john, legitimately sounds like the final boss theme of a real sonic game
like the entire thing sent chills down my back im serious,,, absolutely incredible
Damn the toilet lock broke out
fard
Dude's pushing the Genesis hardware to the maximum of the maximum.
read the description
@@jaywarudo Theoretically possible if you had a driver which implements 4 PCM channels with pitch adjustment in software. Toy Story pulled it off (and even games like Ristar had 2 software PCM channels), though I'm not sure how well that'd work with game logic running at the same time.
HOLY MOLY, That is Doomsday Zone Modern Mix to my opinion, it’s soo good man, keep it up with the rest man
Edit: Alternative name: Final Rush
I feel like this would be the theme that plays as dark sonic or a boss battle involving him if that was in a classic sonic game.
Also just know that this is an absolute masterpiece and I listen to it almost constantly. It fills me with energy like no other song I've ever heard and I love it so so much!!!
YO THE WAY THE PIANO SOLO FROM ACT 2 WORKS SO WELL AS AN ELECTRIC GUITAR SOLO HERE IS ASTONISHING TO ME
INCREDIBLE WORK
I know i already commented like 2 months ago but I keep coming back to this, like. A lot of the S&K alternate soundtrack fits so well, but it’s hard to overestimate how damn well this captures that same feeling of complete and utter urgency that the original Doomsday song did. I can see the battle playing out in my head, it’s that good. I want to make a Sonic 3 A.I.R mod that puts this in, or at least an animatic of this zone on its own. It’s one of those songs that gets me so creatively fired up, and I think you did an amazing job with this whole game’s soundtrack. Hope you get to enjoy other projects and keep making amazing music!
*This fixes the problems I had with this original Doomsday Theme, it did not sound anything like A final boss theme and makes me think the Big Arms theme and Doomsday were accidentally swapped. This actually sounds like A final boss theme!*
I personally like the interpretation that Doomsday zone’s theme is ment to represent Hyper Sonic rather than Eggman. Eggman’s already had his plan ruined, and the entire fight is him desperately trying to run away from Sonic, throwing everything he has to slow him down.
I was shown this song today, and I’m already addicted to it
I love this so much
I'm relatively new to music. Started like, a year ago. This song made me want to up my arrangement game SO bad. I don't do good at arranging myself- I practice somewhat, but this song is just on a different level. I cant even begin to imagine how you would arrange this from the ground up, and I've tried recreating it (poorly) in fl studio using the notes in furnace tracker as a base (it didnt go well). This song is genuinely so good that it made me want to get better at arranging singlehandedly. 10/10.
It might not sound like a song for classic Sonic, but it definitely sounds like a Crush 40 song and one that is fitting of Super Sonic.
The alternate timeline in SMBZ where the Superstar power-up didnt run out [just] then
To be honest, it seems this song hits more of a Sonic is in Thunderforce kind of feel as it almost fits. Imagine if Sonic had to fly with the Rynex to chase Dr.Eggman using a Vasteel Dragon?
John Tay turned a joke into a masterpiece. Never let old ideas go to waste.
We making it out of the genesis hardware limits with this one🔥🔥🔥🔥‼‼‼
This is what we call the climax of the game. Sonic's not stopping at DEZ Act 2.5 (Known as Act X in Level Select due to it being a sub-act for the 'final boss'), so he's gone hyper (Or super if you only have 7 emeralds) and is chasing the fat egg through the Doomsday Zone. The song gives you a feeling of power, determination, and hope. Not just because you're Super/Hyper Sonic, but because this is the last zone and act in the game and you need to give it your all. If it didn't work for Doomsday Zone, the super theme slot would be runner-up. BUT IT WORKED FOR THE LAST ZONE OF THE GAME, SO SHUT YO PIEHOLES, HATERS. John, you outdid yourself here! Keep it up!
0:55 Molding, rotting, slowly decaying
Each pun and each line, was it all worth pretending
They are no longer here
Oh buddy, our legacy...
IT"S OVER
After looking at this comment am expecting randomly midway though the song it will literally just be twiddlefinger
THE TOILET LOCK IS STUCK AGAIN
I made a comment here before that the very obvious riffs taken from other sources took me out of this but honestly the execution is too good for me to really care at this point, this kicks ass.
2:54 DaLick
I don't understand why people are talking about toilets, but this song goes hard.
what the hell is a toilet lock? also this sounds nice. kinda like if you unlocked hyper sonic and then beat the game. sonic literally shrugging off eggman's futile attempts to commit capital greed
The lock on the door handle so random people don't walk on you pissing --on the moon--
Yo new edtion to the Alternate soundtrack let's go!
WE GETTIN OUT DOOMSDAY ZONE WITH THIS ONE
Wake up World John Tay just Dropped a new Banger. Love how this is based of your Death Egg Alts aswell
I know technically you put more than just the Megadrive sound hardware into this, but it doesn't change the fact that this currently stands as one of my favorite compositions involving those chips of all time. Keep up the good work.
i love all the motifs in this
this fuckin slaps HARD
This is absolutely phenomenal. I have no other words.
The original Sonic & Knuckles Soundtrack may be more iconic and irreplaceable.
But, this, might just be even better in terms of it just being an absolute BANGER!
0:34 Madoka Magica's reference????? \0/
so sick dude
This sounds amazing, it sounds like an anime intro.
Omg a banger
As always
I can't tell you how strong a desire I have for Touhou theme covers in this style is. Stuff like Necrofantasia specifically.
HE DONT MISS
0:32 Megalovania is that you?
didn't realize I was anticipating this one so hard. exactly as badass as it deserves to be
How are you so good at this omg. You've truly mastered the art. Also love the fact you reused toilet lock, very memorable
YOOO WE GOT THE STALL DOOR UNSTUCK‼️‼️‼️
God love, this music is genial, I was expecting a meme music, but I got a actual BANGER, holy moly
WE ARE GETTING OUT LACEY'S VOID WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
this is one of the best Sonic OSTs I really enjoyed it ❤
he cant keep getting away with itttttttt
0:56 - 1:17 Is that a Bocchi the Rock reference?
it's a direct steal but it was all i had during conception
@@johntayjinf It fits well...
when i played vanilla s3k doomsday i was fine but when i played through s3 air with this mod i was shakin bro
John Tay at 200% POWER!!!1
okay, so if doomsday zone is semi-super mecha sonic's theme, this is now metallix's theme.
/j