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There's just something about a tan gun
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Looks much better on an AR I think. FDE looks a little wonky on a pistol.
I like feet, myself.
Unter Gleeton Gouten-Globin OK weirdo get out of here
I think it looks dumb, if u gave me those shits i'd spray paint over em, damn sure wouldnt buy em
8:39 some brass does magic on the left side of the table 🙅🤯
Spooky! 😂
Some backspin and upright at attention, that case is top of the class re training 🤣
Ha, that’s hilarious
Barry is watching from above and that is a sign😂
That Barry bro
The Glock 19X that was submitted for military trials did have an external safety, also I was really surprised that Glock did not have an MOS slide for this.
The Glock submitted to the military had a manual safety!
I would buy that
Yep
I dont get why some guys utterly hate and shit on safeties.
@@jackmehoff2363 he's not hating on the safety....he's saying it with exclamation because Eric stated that the glock submission did not have one when it did.
@@jackmehoff2363 a safety on a striker fired gun is pointless. Just another thing to go wrong in a gunfight (forgotten safety)
I appreciate your views on firearms, y’all are always one of the videos I watch for whichever firearm I’m interested in. Thank you keep up the good work
LOVE the straight on camera angle, looks great.
Instantly knew what that T-Shirt was.
Hell yea
You absolutely changed my mind about the m17 and I think I’m going with this one.
It really is a nice side arm!
My dad is looking to buy his first "combat ready" or "fight gun" type of pistol and I've been recommending both of these to him. This video is perfect timing to be able to show him why either is a great choice, and just before fathers day. Going to the range this weekend to try them out.
Any updates? Curious why one would go with a 19x over the good old G17
@@sauerkrautjr he ended up getting a full sized Springfield against my better judgment. On the 19x tho a lot people like the bigger capacity but overall smaller size and lighter wait
@@ninjkitywarlock6337 what full sized Springfield?
@@crackerjack8115 an older XD
@@ninjkitywarlock6337 Oh I fired one, it's alright
While the other “commentary “ videos are important, it’s a breath of fresh air to see a firearm shooting video again!
The side by side shooting was very cool! Do more of that.
the 19x was originally submitted with a saftey
Yes, that is correct
Civilian version available without manual safety.
@@s0bedrag0n Because no one except a Pentagon lawyer wants a manual safety on a Glock.
Charles Boots I had a G19 Gen 4 with one and really liked it. Just sold it a couple weeks ago
When the videos drop like that im coming HERE EVERY TIME!!
Finally, back to the good stuff. Great video, Eric.
Very fair review Eric. Love all the points you are addressing. I haven’t really delved much into why the sig was chosen. This explains it fairly.
SIG was cheaper.
I agree Glocks argument was that the only reason they picked Sig was because they underbid them but this interview explains it all
@7:40 "That's ok, I got a big mag for that."
The way to solve all of life's problems.
😅When you started shooting at 3:20 my initial reaction was, oh crap is Chad behind the camera?!
Just ordered some merch from y’all as well as man can from before love you guys keep it up. Before watching this figure you’re going to go with the sig but just bought my 19X 3 weeks ago and love it my new EDC and yes you can CCW it with little prob! Keep up the great content fellas
I bought the M17 a couple weeks ago and I couldn’t be happier. Great performance and amazing reliability. I’m planning on buying a smaller slide and barrel so I can customize it for range and conceal carry.
Yes your could be happier. I promise you can. You know how??? Buy both like we did. 😬
@@coburna5 I tried both, now have Sig's, no glocks
Why not buy the M18 ? That's the compact version.
@@PpAirO5I passed on the m18 for the m17
Shoulda got a Glock
When it comes down to two guns that are both reliable and accurate it always comes down to which feels better to you and which one you shoot better.
I’ve never shot anything more fitting to my shooting than the M17. Vise versa, I’ve never shot anything more grotesque to my shooting than a Glock. Besides maybe a Kimber.
I find it hard to imagine the glock fitting someones hand well
"I prefer the Sig...but I actually keep the Glock on the nightstand." 🤔🤔🤔
In short, I'm married. But I still like banging the hooker
@@mohammadmujtaba8125 but the hooker isn't the one you trust next to you while you sleep. She runs off with your wallet and silverware.
@@user-ty5di3ku6o which is why you don't marry the hooker.
@@paulbarclay4114 the point being he goes home to the Glock lol. All that aside, the Sig is hyped because the Army took it. It's not as good as everybody pretends it is. I like the Glock better. The CZ is definitely better. Hell, the Walther P99 is older and still better.
@@paulbarclay4114 Glock perfection. No need to change much. The finger grooves are gone. All striker fired guns have mushy triggers. Sig is trying, but I have 5 picks I'd take before them. They can't even get sizes right. Too big, too small, too much handle. Aluminum framed guns? Fantastic, they're 30 years late on the polymer guns and it shows. The Army took them for the price. Nobody else remembers when they were firing when dropped?
Love the RK shirt. Thanks for the information. I'm debating M17/18 or 509T going forward.
Love your recording POV on this clip.
These videos are a taste of sanity in this crazy world.
same name
@@ryansmifh for the win.
The glock that was submitted had that manual safety.
My only complaint is that the 19x finish isn't as robust as I had hoped. Wore it out into the woods one day while cutting shooting lanes and scratched it down the right hand side from either a branch or a ladder.
This video format is AMAZING!!
Literally was waiting for a video comparing the two pistols
Damn. I thought Chad was behind the camera when you started shooting lol. - Duck Chad!!
7:28 and you don’t have to use 19x specific mags only gen 5’s don’t fit the 19x but gen 4’s and earlier do fit the 19x
And a dremel, file, or saw fix that problem real quick on a 19x...
Or just go with the G45
So confusing....
@@billtravis100 nothing confusing about that that all bro
Yea that’s correct, My Gen 4 Mags fit just fine in my 19X.
Did y'all get a new camera? This video looks great
Great Video as always. Very informative. Thanks
I'd like to see a comparison between the other pistols involved in the Competition. I'm personally a fan of the Beretta APX, Especially considering how low it's price is right now. With the APX you get the form and function of the Glock 19x, but the modularity of the SigM17, with the unique design with the slide serrations (I personally like them)
almost bought a M17 at youngest daughters work, noticed the rear sights are blacked out, but right next to the M17 they had an M18, so, went with the M18.
This is false. The rear sights have the glowing dots. I have 2 M17s and 2 M18s. They are literally identical except for length.
@@G1Bryce Maybe the one he saw got blacked out by somebody how do you know?
I flinched when you shot toward the camera. I thought someone was standing back there.
...And that slide manipulation close to the muzzle... ouches 🙂...nice comparison video tho 👍
Hey Eric the light on the Sig was cycling from strobe to constant on as you were shooting, also I think it went on and off a few times check the video something might be up with that light? Great video be safe out there it is getting crazy.
I’ve been waiting for someone to do this
Everyone already knows which one is superior...
Love my 19x. Next will be the g45. Love a gun I can shoot all day with no problems. Works every time for me. Worth every dollar
I got the G45 over the 19X. Now the 19X is sold out everywhere. Bummer
It’s the same fun lol
Gun
I have 2 19x and 2 45s. Shoulda got both. Buying guns will be a thing of the past soon. Just buy
Very well done comparison. Nice work soldier!
I love you guys. Nice video like always!
The 19-X is the only Glock i will own, metal sights, great trigger, adaptable grip three mags and shoots very accurate, though pricey in comparison the Sig M17 is preferable in handling and just feels better in the hand. owning both may be redundant but fun.
It's best Glock of today for sure a gem to shoot shf masterpiece
If you could ever get your hands on a Savage 1907 in .45, I'd love to see it go against a 1911 and see why exactly they chose that.
Subbed! Just finished my m17 build! Romeo1 pro, Wilson grip mod, O light. Trigger is super easy too.. Legos for gun nuts!
Will you please do a video about the rapid force? I really wanted to buy one but have a hard time going away from safariland. I have never considered alien gear to be duty quality. Also I wonder if those "button protector tabs" get in your way when trying to draw quickly
The military Glock 19x had a manual safety
But it wasnt ambidextrous.
The glock 19MHS did have ambi safeties. The 19X is basically a 19MHS without the safeties.
@@phillyfoggvids good catch, I missed that before.
Flip safety on, holster safely, flip safety off. Easy.
The M17 is like a garage queen supercar, while the 19X is like the sportscar that one would love to drive daily
That’s why the Glock didn’t get picked 😂
Are they still making the 19x, I’m looking to buy one but can’t find one anywhere?
Thanks got em both with Beretta M9A3 too, nice!
Full auto 19x meltdown would be awesome
When I heard about this military trial I searched online for the guns they were testing. That was the nearly the same time I decided to buy my first gun and after careful review I bought the Smith and Wesson M&P M2.0 5" and put just shy of four thousand rounds through it without a single malfunction. I still use and carry it everyday.
I like smith and wesson
@@voiceofreason6336 once I sold that Smith & Wesson to my brother the round count was just about 9,000 rounds with no malfunctions and no failures. I shot every kind of ammo including plus p plus and underpowered shotshells without any issues. 🥰
Any chance of seeing a head to head between the fn 509 tactical and Canik TP9SF Elite Combat?
Another great video guys keep um coming
Gen 4 and older Glock 17 mags will work in the 19x. The gen 5 G17 mags are the only mags that have the baseplates that extend forward.
Seriously. One of the better videos you have done Eric. Really well done. Good information. Thanks for doing what you do. I have been watching you guys for years and you never disappoint.
Another excellent post! Thanks!
Good vid. Great info. Thanks!!
The m17 is the better gun, the p320 series is amazing i have 4 i freaking love them. I like the 19x, but i dont like glocks. But the 19x is a nice pistol.
Hey Bert, do you recommend the M17 or X5 Legion?
@@ChangGang really depends on what your intentions are. The Xfive is an amazing gun for the range n competition. The p320m17 is is a whole other package. I use my m17 on competition, my little sister uses the xfive. Honestly I say the m17, With a safety. I like the safety. Good shelf for your thumb, get a oversized/xfive slide ctach lever. N it look nearly identical to the armys pistol. I put a gray guns guide rod n 14 pound spring in my m17. Trigger is perfect. Go with the m17!👍💪💪
The x5 legion is heavy, i dont very much care for that. The black xfive had extra weight in the grip, it is so balanced, i don't like the trigger that came in my xfive. However I won a xcarry at a raffle it was th3 brand new upgraded xcarry. That trigger is the best stock I've ever felt. Other then preupgradeed p320s those were great. But after 2or3 k threw it the triggers only get better. I would say again the p320m17 with the safety. They like 600? 2x21s n 1 17mags now vs legion legions 3 17s. The legion is ready oitta the box. But change the guide rod in the m17, n slide catch. You'll love it so much! Cheers 🍻, good luck hope ya find one. I think the canik sfx...something like tbat. Those are great 5" barrel maybe 5.2", ported slide, optics plates etc. my cop buddy has one for competition, pin point accuracy at 400$ i think. Straight up shot for shot i can't beat his canik. With any of my p320s. I can run it faster in competition, but shot for shot no way. Check that out too.
The 19X trials gun had an ambi safety and optics cut, those were requirements for the trails, if it didn’t have it, it would have been sent back and not even been in the trials. And you don’t need 19X specific mags, you just can’t use the gen 5 base pad. The 19X isn’t using special mags, just colored gen 1-4 mags
This is wild -good job !
Can't beat the cornfield brown color pistols. Nice real nice. Excellent video thanks
That shirt is pretty great 😂👏🏻
Would love to see you compare the G19x and the P320 M18, I think it would be more of a even comparison, the two pistols are more alike
Anyone know where to get the cover he's got on the ear defenders?
HELP...I have a Sig p320. And all the 9mm frames. But when I run the serial # through sig they want my badge # and info on how I got it. The person I purchased it from died of lung cancer years ago. I'm a civilian. Has anyone had the same problem?
8:39 bullet casing on the left does some strange stuff wtf?
YES
Ghost of the bullet case.
It might be some spirit playing around with brass
Needing to use 19x mags in Glock seems a big negative, though maybe not for the Army.
Having the ability to swap grips and slides with the Sig modularity IS fantastic. Didn't know how much I'd like that, but putting a Sig P365XL frame on my P365 was a great upgrade for my uses.
Just cant use gen 5 mags all other mags work
Get rid of the lanyard hole and let er rip.
With the alien force holster for the glock, did you get the 19 or 17 holster?
I like the new camera angle guys!
The Sig P320 is by far my favorite handgun, but the short slide/long grip combo of the g19x gets my respect.
I'm 100% with ya. I gave my g19 to my wife because I just enjoy my 320 that much better. All the local law enforcement uses them as well.
The m18 is the same short slide/ long grip combo
Why would you want less slide? It would only make sense if you'd have also less grip length (vanilla G19 e.g.)
P320x compact has a grip alot like the 19x's. May be slightly shorter, but it feels greatttt.
I am more leaning towards a sig more so than I would be with the glock. Great job discussing the difference between the 2👊
Also if u didn't know. You can buy a 1911 rod and spring to fine tune the recoil on the P320 style of pistols. That is for the 4.7 in barrel not sure on the 3.9. I do own both lenths. Compact and full size with Wilson Combat grips in tan for both. These grips rock.
Was it me or was them lights they had on them were not on the guns all the way back with the rear light groove not in the pistol finger guard??
Sig actually did what the army wanted. Glock tried to make what they had work
Lol, the Glock trials pistol had a safety too. And Glock has the grip inserts which was sufficient for the Military's "modularity requirement". Sig undercut Glock's bid by $100 million, that's why they won. The Military trials weren't even finished, who know which pistol is better, they were never tested.
they both met the requirements. what the army considered as modular was the interchangeable back-strap system. The army just choose the cheaper deal.
Nelson R what good is a back strap if the frame breaks
Everybody already knows y. That wanted to save that 100 million that’s y.
All the glock fan boys are bitching. If you like the glock 19x go buy one I thought the m18 was a better deal so I bought it It was more than a standard glock but came with a mos and night sights
The government choosing the Sig had little to do with the functionality, or the platform......it mostly had to do with the fact that Glock was more expensive whenever it came to spare magazines and spare parts.....
The government usually will settle for the lowest bidder on just about everything.
Quit talkin out yer ass.
@@Iliek perhaps if you knew half of what we are talking about you wouldn't continue talking out of yours....and would get informed. 🤔
Every time i see a new episode from eric n chad i say to myself yea buddy
Would love to see the 509 T beside these two with an extended sit down discussion with Chad
Best secondary in warzone review
7:15 gen 4 magazines work perfectly only gen 5 mags have a problem.
Glock only made the Gen 5 because the 80% builds were cutting into their profits. I won't buy a Gen 5 on that point alone. I don't want the 5 to become any standard.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj my favorite is still the gen 2 the gen 3 was ok the gen 4 was terrible the gen 5 was a step in the right direction...someday the six "i hope" will make me truly fall in love with this brand over all others.
@@bryanengland2466 The perfect design for me would be a true picatinny rail, no finger grooves, the G21 ambi safety, and the gen 4 texturing.
I can do exactly what I want with 3D printing, but a 3D printed frame is not as durable as the glass nylon frame (although pretty close). Even the polymer 80 frame shows wear after high round counts.
Whats the diffrence between the m17s trigger pac and the p320s trigger pack.
This is how a comparison should go between two guns. Just watched another one between these same two guns and it was like he was late for something. Whole thing was rushed and no clue to what the military was comparing during the handgun replacement trials so a lot of "I guess" or "must've been" type wording.
Your comparison is much better, actual military understanding included too. The firing as well since the other comparison video was just one quick unboxing basically. Just subscribed... thanks for the great insight. (My wife just got the 19x a couple weeks ago. I'm definitely getting the M17 after seeing this review/comparison though. FYSA: I was an Armorer from '02 to '05 in Germany with Big Red One. We deployed to Tikrit, Iraq my last year before ETS'ing. Never knew about the new handgun until recently since I've been USAF for past 14yrs.)
I couldn't decide which one was better so I got both of them :-)
Exactly why only have one when you can have both. 😉🇺🇸
Sound reasoning 👍!
You play Roblox and have an anime pfp, and still use those cringe smiley faces, so you did not.
How do you change your name ? I did...btw any problem if a 24 yr old plays Roblox???
Please watch small arms solutions video on the m17 program
- that’s dudes full of bitter shit.
Jason B how is he bitter? The army never finished the testing of the m17.
Tyler Dear - absolute nonsense
@@sqwk2559 just let him take that video as fact which justifies his preference, it makes his glock more accurate
GhostBox I don’t care about brands honestly. I own both sig and glock as well as hk, kimber, and so on.
I would just like for the full endurance testing to be completed. If the sig wins cool. If the glock wins cool.
Wow, didn’t know about the Glock mag issue. Great to know.
How is the commercial version different from the army M17? Any differences?
Thinking as a (former) Soldier:
Of the Glock, the sights would've been my biggest complaint. But, they addressed that with the night sights. Also, in spite of my personal, *slight* aversion to the design (ergos and stock sights), Glock *IS* an excellent, robust design with a great track record.
Even so, the Sig is better over all, imo-- sights, ergos, modularity, etc. (Although, I do prefer the shorter Sig the Marines went with for ease of use and weight).
Also, you have to bear in mind-- a good portion of military people, upon joining, have had little to no firearms experience.
And that's where the Sig's controls shine-- ambi safety and hammer, especially. Because, for an experienced shooter, those things might be minor annoyances, but really aren't deal breakers where actual use of the pistol is concerned.
Whereas, for a "new" shooter, they really are better to learn on (more forgiving of mistakes) than a striker pistol is...
One thing that worries me, though, is that I sincerely hope Sig's reputation doesn't take a hit, the way Beretta's did, because of the anemic qualities of the 9mm ball cartridge... But, that's probably never gonna change until we tell NATO to suck it... Fwiw
Not just night sights but metal night sights! Wish glock always put metal sights at least on their pistols…
Sig p320 doesn't have a hammer. It's striker fired
Sig won based on price. Sig and Glock met requirements, but price decided the winner, great job with the video.
No glock lost cause they were price gouging
Sig won cause their gun is just better.
Neven Helling so what you telling me Is glock doesn’t have customers service cause they don’t need it cause there shit never breaks. Lol 😂
Neven Helling this is why glock lost cause of people like you that continued to tell them there pistol are perfect 👌 and they have no competition. And they believe you so they never do anything. This isn’t 1980. It 2020 And for you people that says it works. Yea and so does horses and a wagon. But no one uses them anymore
Neven Helling sig has a better gun.
I've already got an old-school P226 (no bottom rail) and I'm looking to get a P365 next (since SIG seems to have resolved the model's early issues). I really don't *need* an in-between sized gun. But I'm looking at a S&W 686, in .357, just because ;) Both these guns are winners, thiough.
great video brother!
It's been mentioned, but for reinforcement.. the Glock that was submitted to the trials did have a manual safety.
Yep that was an oversight on my part. If I’m not mistaken the trail pistol was cut for a slide riding optic also
@@Iraqveteran8888 Glock's interchangeable back straps were enough to meet the modularity requirement. However the pistols barely reached testing because Sig undercut Glocks bid by over $100 million. That's why Glock filed a lawsuit, the pistols never completed the trials.
@@Lungorthin666 And then the 320 got recalled...
@@Lungorthin666 Interchangeable backstage back straps clarify it as modular? LOL. Idiots at Glock should have made a modular gun and maybe they would have stood a chance. That's what happens when you just barely "meet the requirements" on a huge contact. Glock did the absolute minimum and wondered why they didn't get the contact, and then they whined about it.
Brian LeFevre The M17/M18 and X series didn't suffer from the drop safety issue, only the standard 320
The Honda Civic or... Ford pickup truck? I'm not sure these are in the same class of reliability haha.
Honda-NOT, Ford-total dependability.
Ford, three oil changes, two oil pan replacements.
Hondas are bullet proof. Fords? Far from it but cheap to replace parts
kinda dumb question but why is there sparks coming out of the glock barrel, iv never seen that before
Lol. That shirt is awesome man. Definitely want one.
Glock fan boys: Does it take Glock Mags?
19x: sort of
It takes all glock mags except for Gen 5.
@@skunkwrxs I fixed mine with a dremmel. I just put a deep radius on the back of the tab. Works well now with any 17 mag.
Thomas Shuman that works too!
Sig M17 is kind of like that with the 17rd mags u can't swap like to a x5 grip and use the same mag base plates.
Glock did it right the first time, sig had to release the m18 😂
My Glock 17 Gen 3 mags work just fine in my 19x. As well as my Pmags.
Only gen 5 mags have to be modified
I'd love to see a comparison on the FN FNX vs the HK MK23! ;D
The casing that came out @8:38 rolled and stood up by itself. Magnet on table?
I would like to see a reliability test on the M17 and the 19X.
You’ll fail before either fail.
@@sqwk2559 I think it would be a fun video to watch. I have seen Glock's fail. I also own a M17.
It would be a boring video. Something would most likely have to be done to induce a failure in either one of them. They're both extremely reliable.
Good review. You seemed to be firing the Glock quicker and maybe a few more hits than the Sig. Both are capable firearms.
Glock is Better ‼️
The reason he fired quicker with the Glock , is the fact that his palm rests higher and behind the firing chamber,compared to the much lower grip the Sig allows. That design on Glock,absorbs recoil much better,without the nose of the gun raise a lot,after each round.If you notice carefully,He loses his target more with the Sig,while the Glock stays better on target with each shot.
@@greekveteran2715he fired the Glock faster hoping it will jam because his mind was made up about the sig
The 320 is such a good gun. I shot one the other day and my goodness it was just amazing. So hard to find though