Brand NEW CORAVIN SPARKLING (not yet released) - First Unboxing and Review
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2021
- I think you and I will be the first to unpack and independently review the not even released Coravin Sparkling here on UA-cam. First of all: I have received the device from Coravin but I am not being paid to review it. You will get my honest opinion on it just like you did with my other Reviews
Viewers who have watched the channel for a longer time know that I frequently use Coravin. I first discovered it in 2013 when traveling in California and I bought their Model 8 seven years ago.
Since then, Coravin has changed the design and quality of the product - not always for the better - but the basic concept of Coravin stayed the same: They build wine extraction systems that allow you to access wine without having to pull the cork. These systems protect the wine from going bad for months or even years after taking out some of the wine as the wine is protected with argon gas. The device is great if you want to taste different wines throughout the evening or if you taste a lot of different wines at the same time as me. This was ground-breaking years ago and they still have no real competition. But for a long time, Coravin did not have an answer for wines closed under screw caps and sparkling wines.
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ohhh lucky you. I haven't received mine yet. Thanks for the video.
Sparkling wine are even the most "easy" to drink, hard not to finish a bottle and to think this is a wise investment.
Still if you are alone drinking home I guess half bottle are a better solution probably
Think of the restaurants by the glass as he said or tasting events for distribution companies…. That’s this products true poultice instead of expending a bottle out per event or night now it last through the week will def save me money well worth the device.
Plus, its generally around 2 percentage points lower in alcohol; so, you can drink more without getting full🤪
Alone drinking at home sounds dangerous
I noticed the device has a short needle. How do I ensure that the bottle is fully depleted of wine being the the device’s needle is short?
I’m really happy that your wine channel is developing nicely! 😀
I got COVID and for a while I had no tastebuds…
But I was looking at Wineking and your great channel to revive my idea of taste and you and Wineking really helped me understanding taste again.
I’m on a budget and I especially enjoy when you are considering value for
money like you seem to do on your Vivino videos. Thanks for that!
A suggestion could be a theme by value for money by the grape. Something like value for money with Malbec, for Tempranillo, Cabernet, Shiraz, Sangiovese, Sauvignon Blanc and many more. Maybe comparing the consumer and the wine enthusiast perspective for each grape could be educational in many ways.
I am so jealous! I want one! Thank you for the review 😊
I just saw this system in the department store for Christmas, and wondered how it works, now I know!
Thank you for the video; it would be very helpful for people like me, just have a glass of sparkling at the time.
At this price point, for private buyers it might be cheaper to just use the last 2 glasses in a sauce (if the wine is kept for too long) .
Very interesting. Thank you for reviewing this new Coravin system. But, to be honest, I expected more from it (compared to those models
made for non-sparkling wines)
Thank you very much for sharing this experience so far!
I definitely like drinking sparkling wines without having some kind of event for drinking it and I am sure would enjoy it more often if I didn't have to drink a whole bottle within one or two days after opening it. So that kind of Coravin would be the ideal device for me but in contrary 400 bucks is a lot of money so I'm not sure about this.
Moreover I still have to get my first normal. Maybe an idea for my birthday or Christmas this year.
Very cool to see this and that they found a solution!!
Cool & very interesting video. Very much looking forward to the second video with more details. And curious whether this is rather positioned to preserver in the short time (e..g restaurants, for the next day or over the wekend), for drinking a bottle over two weeks or even longer.
And thanks for being transparent on receiving no compensation from Coravin, but also on having received the device from Coravin at no cost. Now UA-cam is full from statements like 'this does not influence my views presented', and we know that in a lot of cases this is (intentionally) not true; still I trust you based on all the great videos I've seen, and your disclosure. Pls keep in mind there may also be unintentional biases when receiving gifts..
pls keep up the great work :)
Hey. Love your videos Konstantin! It would be great if you did a 'Wine in 10' video discussing Sangiovese and Tuscany etc.
Tuscan wines have always been my favorite. It would be cool to learn more about the region!
Thank you for a cool review!
Great video and very useful. I work in a restaurant as a sommelier and it does help. Well done and keep it up👍👍👍
Opening a bottle of sparkling wine is almost always, for me, a celebratory occasion shared with friends and in 98% of those cases the bottle will be finished the same evening. For the remaining 2 percent, those are always leftovers from a multi course dinner that I give for less than 6 people with a wine pairing. So I just finish the bottle the next day, probably for a death in the afternoon.
I just ordered one for my wife's birthday. She enjoys prosecco but only has a single glass with dinner a couple times a week. To limit waste, she buys splits, which greatly limits the available selection and presumably adds cost as well. I think this contraption will allow her to enjoy a much wider range of options. The original Coravin has been a game changer in our house, but I think this sparkling model could see more regular use.
To be honest, the Perlage system is far more advantageous. It is also very clunky and big (in encases the whole bottle), but the CO2 cartridges are the normal commercial ones - which is amazing because they are far easier available and a fraction of the cost.
Also- as it is a manual system, there are hacks to even extend the shelflife of your sparkling wine (adding CO2, just unscrew that the additional pressure can get out - so most of the oxygen and pressurize again).
Just saying. The only problem is, that the Perlage can only take normal 75cl bottles and no magnums or smaller bottles.
I hope this will save the expensive bottles on the by glass list! We had krug on the list but eventually had to take it down given that sometimes people would just order one or two glass, which signed the death sentence for the rest of the bottle since it was slow-moving.
Oh, finally justice is done also for the sparkling wine. This new Coravin is a game-changer, very well done. As you said, just the stopper looks a little odd!
Is it a game changer? Do you know Perlage? I do think, that the system is far cheaper (you don’t have to buy proprietary CO2 cartridges) - and there are hacks which can even extend the shelf life.
@@Dominikmj thanks for the heads up, worth checking ;)
Hardly revolutionary, Genii came up with the same system about 5 years ago and the Bermar units have been available for decades. What I really want from a sparkling wine preseravation system is a true Coravin style system, that once attached remains in place even while pouring, replacing the wine with CO2 as you pour, constantly maintaining bottle pressure. Systems that require you to depressurise to pour, give you some more 'bites at the cherry' as it were, but are far from ideal.
That is true - the Genii is very similar - Thanks for sharing!
Thanks, although not a review, the video was informative. It’s a refinement that goes way beyond my humble needs.
Thanks for watching - a more thorough review is coming up.
Looking forward to hearing whether the co2 pressurized into the bottle changes the perception of the effervescence. Seems like it would be hard to keep the same amount of dissolved co2 especially with different volumes in the bottle.
Seems like a great option for folks that need to taste/pour numerous sparkling wines!
Why would it be difficult if the Coravin is just making sure that it always pressurizes to the same level?
@@FirstTimeProduction7 Well - this contraption is not super high-tech. The problem with CO2 dissolved in a liquid is, that it is not constant. Agitation of the bottle changes - also the temperature is changing the ability of the liquid to dissolve CO2 a lot.
To be honest - I am a bit disappointed: at this price point, the product supposed to be a bit smarter: maybe pumping oxygen first of all out of the headspace before adding CO2 - or at least pressurize with CO2, then depressurize (which means most of the oxygen would also get out of the bottle and then pressurize again).
Very interesting. Using inert gas for protection against oxidation is reasonable, but to use it keeping carbonation is a different ballgame. Different sparkling wines have different level of carbonation and here is coming the problem with the device. The level of carbonation is pressure and temperature dependent. The solution of CO2 in the wine depends on this 2 parameters. If the device is keeping the same amount of pressure, that means one will have at fridge temperature exactly same level of carbonation for all styles of sparkling wines no matter which one. There is another thing. If you don’t put right away under pressure and the wine loses some carbonation, after that it will need some time to dissolve the co2 gas back into solution. Depending on the level of decarbonisation it can take days. So my answer is no, I won’t use the gadget. It is too expensive and usually I don’t have problem finishing the bottle, but if I have the possibility I would make a field test of course. You can do it and share the experience.
This piece of equipment looks really fancy,just opened a really good 2016 brunello for this video don't think it will survive more then 24 hours 😆 🤣 😂 ,I will never spend 300 dollars for this kind of experience.
My sparkling wines open and gone in 45 to 1 hour max.
so my opinion I would'n see any use for this device.
Thanks for fixing the white balance on your secondary camera! 😄
Still learning ;)
Looks like a great gadget for a wine bar or restaurant. Not sure I’d open enough bottles of fiz to make it worth while. But cool, nonetheless. Thanks as always. Great video!
My thoughts exactly
Agree on the flute on the packaging! Great video as usual. Thanks! ps: who picks up all the trash on the floor after your video? haha
I need to get an intern for that ;)
Yes, I World use it!
Very niche - not one for the home enthusiast (I do love my regular Coravin though).
Konstantin - could you please give us a tour of your cellar? Such an interesting looking space and would love to see your racking system and a selection of wines you have maturing. I am looking to build a “wine room” soon so looking for advice. Paul from Adelaide, Australia.
great !!! I think it will be interesting to see the effect of the CO2 in vintage and olds champagnes/sparkling wines.... any thought?
Great video, Didn't knowow they were releasing this product. I've searched for a consistent way to preserve opened sparkling wine bottles at home, didn't find any solution so I just decide to pass on the idea and drink it only outside. They've come up with this method but I see it's:
A) very expensive
B) it only lasts for 2 weeks
At this point, unless you want to drink failry expensive sparkling at home, It would be more efficient to open up a bottle, close it quickly with a good stopper, drink as much as you like in the next 48 h and drink the rest without bubbles, or use it for cooking, or pour it in the sink.
In the business sector it could be extremely useful instead.
In the business system you have the “Perlage System” which is barely more expensive and a little more robust.
Very entertaining and informative as usual. Who clears up the floor when you are finished ?
My cellar looks like ball pit filled with corks
Useful for restaurants and bars, not much else. Hopefully we see some more sparklers by the glass because of it
Meaning I don't have an excuse to finish the rest of that Roederer "before it goes bad" in the slow season. 😂
Yep I want one
I love Coravin
It wasn't a game changer in 2010, when I was trying to introduce exactly same Idea for the investors and seed caps! It's nice to see if the restaurant field take the principle of replace the lost CO2 of the sparkling wine seriously enough this time!
I do own coravin which is quite handy to enjoy and taste multiple different wines... Also when my wife was breastfeeding and she didn't drink at all it was a challenge for me to finish a bottle before it was too oxidized - coravin resolved my problems ;). For sparkling wines at home i just can't see 400$ being justified. I usually open a good champagne bottle when there is some good occasion and enjoy it with family and friends. 4 weeks may be a lot for restaurant - for home use i don't think it's a breakthrough.
No I would never buy such device as I am a private user... Keep up the good videos! LG aus Südtirol
Yeey, a new wine video from a great master...😁 Oh wait... Not about wine again.🙁
It kinda is. But don't worry the next one will be on wine again.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Thanks for taking the time to reply to my bitter comment, lol. Keep up the good work man, I've seen quite a few channels starting like yours and getting really big. You are in the right path for sure.
I have modified my coravin system. I plugged a big bottle of argon gaz to it . It will last a few years.
Part of the pleasure of sparkling wines are the bubbles. What about the sensations in the mouth with this "carbonated" vs " traditional" method?
traditional method, means carbonation is done solely from the yeast, carbonated means added CO2 from other means, but they're both carbon-dioxide.
@@robdielemans9189 but the texture is not the same...
It is not really carbonated. Instead the CO2 is preserved for a longer time as far as I understand.
Thanks for the review.
I have got to say, a couple of things are blatantly obvious (and the review didn’t mentioned it):
1) Coravin did hear a disservice to the customer. As this is normal CO2, they easily could have used the available CO2 cartridges (for the iSi siphons or other systems like Perlini). To fact that they used their own proprietary system is just to make more money (probably their own cartridges are also far more expensive) - but it also leads to this: if because of any reason they cease to exist, or if they are stopping the production and the support for this system (which is definitely a reasonable conjecture) the very expensive system is totally useless. They should have either way make the system less expensive (more widely adoption, and easier to digest, if the mentioned possibility would happen) - like a Playstation model (loss leader to make profit with games), or they should have given the normal CO2 cartridges.
2) To have this rather big system is a bit strange. They added a sensor which gives you an indication of when the system is ready - but it would be far more important to add a pump which first of all removes most of the headspace oxygen and then add CO2. Also it would be nice to have an app, which would say, when the bottle was first opened etc. For 400 bucks, it is very little what you get.
3) There are other systems like that - especially Perlage is pretty good. It is also clunky - but the operation is definitely cheaper, as you can use the already available CO2 cartridges (and it is safer to use for the future). It encloses the full bottle - but given that the Coravin Sparkling is also super big, it has not really any huge disadvantages.
It seems to me like this is the world's most expensive SodaStream. I wouldn't personally use it, but I can see how this could fit a very niche market. I wonder if the quality will suffer from this process though, since direct carbonation is not considered suitable for premium sparkling wines
Before lifting up the lever, you should release the CO2 by the top button? Just reviewed this product and this then makes it easier / safer to the pull up the lever.
Certainly there are appropriate uses for this device. But for the average Joe (even an above-average Joe), who likes the occasional bottle of sparkling wine, this seems like expensive overkill, when argon and a sparkling wine cap can be used to save the wine for the next day--if there is any left to save. Typically sparkling wines are finished on the day of opening. But, once recently, I saved the rest of a bottle for a couple days (argon and sparkling closure) and I liked it even more than the first day--still decent fizz and more mature flavors.
Nice piece of equipment but I can't afford it. My poor man's solution has been a pressure stopper + argon spray, so you can have the positive pressure back into the bottle. Took a few tries to get used and have the stopper properly sealed (I tried with some cheap sparkling first hehe) but I can confirm that a vintage champagne I opened a while ago stood perfectly with nearly all the fizz for 2 weeks.
You can just use nitrogen, much cheaper
For privat person probably a little too costly if you can "only" keep the bottle for 2 weeks.
I am just really happy with my Coravin Model 5 😍
Thanks for sharing!
Interesting device, it surely preserves the "sparklingness" of the wine. Though I'm not so sure if it can prevent oxidation from physical chemistry point of view. The concentration of O2 is lower but its partial pressure in the gas phase is the same. So the amount of dissolved O2 in the wine should also be the same. I think you should "purge" the wine bottle with CO2 once if you want to prevent oxidation... But maybe I'm wrong.
Thanks. It is not going to prevent oxidation but slow it down as the concentration of CO2 in the bottle will be higher compared to an opended bottles without CO2 addition.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I'm still not convinced that it slows down the oxidation, since the oxidation rate should depend on the amount of O2 in the wine, but not by the concentration of O2 or other inert gases in the bottle. And the amount of O2 in wine does not change by simply adding CO2 to the bottle (unless you decrease the absolute amount of O2 in gas phase by purging the bottle by CO2). According to the Henry's law, the pressure of O2 (more precisely partial pressure) rules the amount of O2 dissolved in wine, not the concentration. The partial pressure of O2 will not change by pressurizing the bottle with additional CO2. CO2 is inert in oxidation of wine, but it only means that CO2 does not take part in the oxidation reaction (it does not actively prevent oxidation). So I'm still not convinced that pressurizing the bottle with inert CO2 will slow down the oxidation of wine... I tried to search whether the amount of CO2 in water affects the solubility of O2, but I couldn't find an answer yet. So I could be wrong. I believe purging the bottle by CO2 (pressure with CO2, release the pressure, and pressurize with CO2 again) will slow down the oxidation since the partial pressure of O2 in the gas will be smaller.
Anyway, it doesn't change the fact that this device looks cool and that I enjoyed your video! Keep it up!
My wife and I will share a bottle so we would never have a use for this.
I also have quarter (20cl) and fillette (37.5cl) for those occasions when only a glass or two is required.
Coravin do make very nice products however 👍🏻
Nice video as always!
It would be nice to see you taste the same wine on day 1, after a week and after two weeks since the opening to see if the machine really preserves the wine (like you did with some standard coravin systems).
As far as I am concerned, I would definitely use this but only if the price decreases DRAMATICALLY. I am fine paying €200 for the standard coravin since it really preserves the wines for at least 6/12 months, but I would never pay €400 for something that gives me only 14 days to finish the bottle, as I sometimes drink wines I used the coravin on weeks or months apart from the first tasting.
Keep up the good work!
Yeah. Coravin doesn't make much sense buying street price since it's already the razor and blade model. Those cartridges add up unless you use adapters and tanks.
Does this system work with non standard bottles like Dom Perpignon too. The shape at the top is different and many other systems having troubles here.
Yes, it should.
I have a question, for example if you use that device on champagne, is it that aparkling wine treated as champagne bcs co2 was added on no natural way?
No, I wouldn't buy it for the reasons you already mentioned. But I am considering buying a Coravin for still wines, after you said in another video that you don't like the Vacuvin, although not giving a reason for it. Of course my 20 years old Vacuvin does not work for fresh tingly white wines, but I am using it almost daily for all kinds of still wines and thus can avoid oxydation.
I might have to give the Vacuvin another look. Coravin makes a lot of sense if you want to keep the wine for months or years after accessing it for the first time.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Here is a real Lab Test of Vacuvin and Coravin for still wines (in German and Swiss German Oops!).
ua-cam.com/video/NaXGZFzipJA/v-deo.html
Coravin gets 6.0 points which is the highest rate in Switzerland. I actually have never seen another product getting 6.0 points in this Swiss TV series, so Coravin is really a quality product. But ... Vacuvin is not bad either, as you can see.
It would be interesting to see how the Coravin Pivot would perform in the Lab.
Holy shit. It’s finally happening.
I thought it was always going to be vapourware.
Thought about this again and came to the conclusion that this device is in a way not fully developed. I am pretty sure that we will see a Coravin in a few years, which can be used for sparkling wines as well as for still ones just by switching the capsule (of course not before they sold a lot of their sparkling wine Coravins).
Maybe. Lets see!
I had the Coravin 3 and it broke within 2 days. I'm trying to decide if I should get another model or repurchase
How did you do that?
The device only preserves the bubbles, does not prevent oxygenation which is the claim to fame for Coravin. Furthermore, you need an expensive stopper per bottle.
Nice tool but I never have anything left in the bottle
I’ve had issues with Coravin, but after I replaced the needle it was okay. I think the needle became dirty / unsterile. Have you ever had this issue and how do you usually clean yours?
Yes, you have to keep it clean. Just rinse it with water regularly.
My needle always break before. it breaks every 6 months I would say
The gadget itself seems fine but the stopper part is just unnecessarily bulky. Price seems ok, depending on how much the stoppers are, two is not enough for professional use. And how much are the Co2 canisters?
Where is the portable Verre de vin system?
A six pack will be 45 US$
Was just thinking I’d love to drink more Champagne, but just a glass or two at a time, unless we happened to have company. At $400, this unit is intriguing, but ultimately too pricey. Of course, when my ship comes in, I won’t care.
I definitely see the practical use of Coravin for regular wines, but this thing seems highly unnecessary.
Got any wine book recommendations?
Yes, I should do a video on that.
How does you know when you have injected enough co2 in the bottle?
It stops on its own.
I noticed the device has a short needle. How do I ensure that the bottle is fully depleted of wine being the the device’s needle is short?
You mean for the Coravin Sparkling? It does not really have a needle... Not sure whether I understand.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I mean the sharp metal rod that pierce the cork top. Is this rod responsible for the wine being poured or is it gravity and the argon?
Isn't that a little bit like recarbonating the wine with a soda stream ?
Quite interesting, yet Coravin has no use for me and my wine friends. Once the bottles are opened, they are consumed during the event.
I thought the whole point of Coravin was to be able to sample wines without having to pull the cork.
I think the pressure in bubbly wines is way too high to pull that off without making a mess of the wine pouring.
Yes, but they have used workarounds for screw caps and the Pivot system also follows a different approach.
i bet they will do it so you can't buy cheap (about 10-20 cents) gas capsules, and u have to buy coravin ones for 10€ each, even though they should use co2 now when it's sparkling instead of argon (not that argon gas costs less than 1euro/liter, when just buying 1 50 liter cylinder one coravin capsule is 50 ml)
i usually finish a whole bottle once i open one. I wouldnt buy it but if someone gave me one, I wouldnt mind.
No sparkling wine of mine ever last more then a day!😂😂
The stopper looks a bit clunky to put in the fridge
It fits into the fridge.
what do you have to do to receive such expensive gifts ? .....)))) i would use coravin but not coravin sparkling, it is like you said for that money kinda like for restaurants not for private
Can I use Coca Cola as a cheaper source of CO2 ?
Nice idea, but NO will not spend $400 for it.
400 dollars to preserve something for 2 weeks? No thanks. I love my model 3, but I'll just finish off sparklies in 2 days
I don’t understand why do they price it at 400 usd, its way to much
I wouldn’t use this because there’s no such thing as left over wine don’t even try and convince me otherwise. -Chris
nothing new there you can get an equivalent for 30€ at a german company called champagne protector , a bit more expensive a swiss company swishhh if i remember well…it s twice the price of the german one….coravin is 500€!!!!!
No
I would not use it. Too expensive. I already have a couple of screw down and around the cap devices that keep the co2 for a week. And having to keep that giant device on top of a bottle in the fridge is ridiculous.
This is not a review! You did not test the product or its ability to preserve the wine. A preview at best imo.
More to come ...