Huge thanks for all the helpful videos DaBinChe. I've also read a number of your forum posts elsewhere. Yesterday, I installed the 4.00x10 rear tire. I was happy to see my top speed went up to about 54-55 mph on flat ground with no draft. Today, I installed a set of Dr. Pulley 18mmx14mm, 15-gram sliders and my top speed dropped back to around 50-51 mph on the same stretch of road. Tire pressure is good, and bike is serviced and in tip top mechanical shape. You seem to know a lot about this scooter. Any advice on getting more speed out of this Elite? Maybe heavier weights?
+brandun999 I for get what the stock roller weight is but I hear that with dr.pully sliders you have to go a tad lighter then stock....just have to play with it. I prefer stock rollers cause they last a long time and are cheap compared to the DP
OEM. Variators wear with belt so both have to be replaced at the same time. I put on too many miles to use aftermarket. Besides as far as I know there is no aftermarket one for this scooter
Great video! I also have a 2010 black honda elite and would like to know how to change the "final drive oil". If you could post a video that would be great! Thanks!!
hi i read some of the comments below, i hav a 2010 lead/elite 110 , i keep maxing out at 48mph , i took apart the variator 1 day and cleaned every thing up , my belt looks good n fresh still , the rollers look abit faded in color but pretty round .. when i put i back together i think i set the torque to 70 ft /lb , and i get 46 now some time 48.. i also read that u was saying smaller wheel diameter affects speed also, my rear is 100/80 10 which i think is abit smaller. i was thinking of ordering a new belt and variator weights , what do u think, do u think change the wheel size 1st?
+Kay Tu yeah that smaller diameter wheel will slow you down...it is good for acceleration and up hill but sucks for anything else. I use a Molas ML16 4"x10" a little larger in diameter then stock so that tops out at 55mph if my drive (belt/rollers) is completely new
Great video, it helps to know what to expect going into the drive system. I found both my clutch area and my starter had a lot of brake shoe type material from the clutch and I blew it out and it should not chatter when you start from a stop. I can not figure how to remove and change the headlight bulb could you do one on that?
take off the mirrors, I think there are 5 screws that hold the plastic front&rear headlight body work. Once the screws are off you have to unsnap the bodywork from each other and the front will come off along with the headlight assembly. Unplug the wire harness, slide back the rubber boot, unclip the wire retainer holding the bulb. Remember not to touch the glass on the new bulb or it will burn out and crack shortly after install. If you do touch it clean it with alcohol.
The drive belt width is 18.5mm new and the service limit is 17.5mm. I don't remember what the length of the belt is, but it should be on the belt itself.
Great videos. Which model of Makita impact driver are you using for this job?Although I am getting a good top speed (about 60mph with a slight tailwind) I have noticed the uphill performance is starting to reduce. I suspect the engine revs are slightly less resulting in reduced power under heavy load. What fault in the transmission system would cause this?
It is an older Makita driver with 3 power settings. When it first came out it was their top model. Anytime you gear taller (higher top speed) you lose the shorter (more acceleration/hill climb) gearing. So tune according to your needs. I'm light weigth and don't do much stop/go so I gear taller. My extra/back up scoot is geared lowered top speed by 2-3mph so it is great for hill climbing, stop/go, and carrying more weight.
@@DaBinChe I was hoping to find a Makita impact driver that like yours has the correct torque settings. I already have an 18v Makita drill and there seem to be about four models of 18v impact drivers. They all seem to just quote max torque. Also only the expensive versions indicate that they can cope with greater than M16 size of socket. My concern with the transmission setting is that when new the balance was just right so I was wondering what might have changed to reduce acceleration/hill climbing performance. I had assumed that the slight increase in top speed was the engine running in but perhaps it is the setting changing. What adjustment do you recommend?
@@nigelcharles511 For more top speed and better acceleration/hill climb use 12.5g Dr.Pulley sliders. For the impact wrench I'll go with the one that has the power level adjustment. The owners manual will say how much torque each setting has.
@@DaBinChe Thanks for your quick response. My real question was what could have changed with the original setup (which was good) to need a change of pulley sliders? Presumably you get these sliders from Honda dealers or is there a better source?
@@nigelcharles511 The Dr. Pulley (12.5gram) sliders makes it a little quicker in acceleration and hill climb as well as give a couple mph more top speed. Sliders are different from rollers.
My bike was moving forward and back when my revs were kept still on a certain mph.... then my belt snapped.... after a week... i changed it into a new belt and bought new variator set and the bikes stilll acting the same ..? I purchase only original honda parts as welll whats the problem with my nhx : /
Selcuk Inan I also see that you asked about it two weeks ago and I told you to check your drive. Turns out I was right it was your drive. Sometimes but not always before the belt goes it'll give you some feed back and it is up to you to take care of it ASAP.
Ive changed the belt and variator and clutch shoes and its still doing the same thing it goes back and forward when youre going with whatever speed... it does it for few minutes then it stops then it comes back, and bon appetitr with the snake!
Selcuk Inan Still sounds like the drive to me if it is hitting the rev limiter before top speed. If it hits the rev limiter around top speed then it is normal. Top seed, stock w/all new drive parts, could be anywhere from 48-53mph. Is the belt, weights and variator new? Any one of these parts can cause it to hit the rev limiter before top speed if worn even if the other parts are new. Rollers OEM? Take a marker and mark the face of the drive towards the higher gearing. Ride around and see how high the belt rides up the varitaor by how much of the mark is left. There should be about 2-3mm before the edge, that is top speed/gearing. Also is your tire size stock? If you are using a tire with a smaller diameter you are gearing too low and it will hit the rev limiter before top speed.
I have the honda lead scv100 max speed is 40mph had the rollers changed and stil no improvement in speed why the slow speed? I always thought a 100cc would go 60,65mph
Thank you for the detailed instructions!
Huge thanks for all the helpful videos DaBinChe. I've also read a number of your forum posts elsewhere. Yesterday, I installed the 4.00x10 rear tire. I was happy to see my top speed went up to about 54-55 mph on flat ground with no draft. Today, I installed a set of Dr. Pulley 18mmx14mm, 15-gram sliders and my top speed dropped back to around 50-51 mph on the same stretch of road. Tire pressure is good, and bike is serviced and in tip top mechanical shape. You seem to know a lot about this scooter. Any advice on getting more speed out of this Elite? Maybe heavier weights?
+brandun999 I for get what the stock roller weight is but I hear that with dr.pully sliders you have to go a tad lighter then stock....just have to play with it. I prefer stock rollers cause they last a long time and are cheap compared to the DP
Great vídeo!!
Torque nut variator 108Nm and clutch 54Nm?
Thanks
Hi, love your videos, do you use the oem variator or another one when replacing it?
OEM. Variators wear with belt so both have to be replaced at the same time. I put on too many miles to use aftermarket. Besides as far as I know there is no aftermarket one for this scooter
@@DaBinChe Awesome thanks for the tip
You deserve more subscribers! Neat job.
Great video! I also have a 2010 black honda elite and would like to know how to change the "final drive oil". If you could post a video that would be great! Thanks!!
hi i read some of the comments below, i hav a 2010 lead/elite 110 , i keep maxing out at 48mph , i took apart the variator 1 day and cleaned every thing up , my belt looks good n fresh still , the rollers look abit faded in color but pretty round .. when i put i back together i think i set the torque to 70 ft /lb , and i get 46 now some time 48.. i also read that u was saying smaller wheel diameter affects speed also, my rear is 100/80 10 which i think is abit smaller. i was thinking of ordering a new belt and variator weights , what do u think, do u think change the wheel size 1st?
+Kay Tu yeah that smaller diameter wheel will slow you down...it is good for acceleration and up hill but sucks for anything else. I use a Molas ML16 4"x10" a little larger in diameter then stock so that tops out at 55mph if my drive (belt/rollers) is completely new
excellent video, you can tell me what is the diameter and weight of the original rollers?
Hey DBC, are you supposed to put any grease on the spline side of the boss? Like on the inside?
No need
Great video, it helps to know what to expect going into the drive system. I found both my clutch area and my starter had a lot of brake shoe type material from the clutch and I blew it out and it should not chatter when you start from a stop. I can not figure how to remove and change the headlight bulb could you do one on that?
take off the mirrors, I think there are 5 screws that hold the plastic front&rear headlight body work. Once the screws are off you have to unsnap the bodywork from each other and the front will come off along with the headlight assembly. Unplug the wire harness, slide back the rubber boot, unclip the wire retainer holding the bulb. Remember not to touch the glass on the new bulb or it will burn out and crack shortly after install. If you do touch it clean it with alcohol.
Where is the governor washer you have to remove on the variator?
I watched the video is there 2 of them?
don't the roller weights & boss need some type of grease?
The drive belt width is 18.5mm new and the service limit is 17.5mm. I don't remember what the length of the belt is, but it should be on the belt itself.
You seem to know this scooter very well is there anyway of increasing the speed if so can you show me how in a video
How to prevent the variator from rotating....is there any flywheel holder for this purpose....
I just bought one on EBay for less than $10.00-or you can make your own.
Great videos. Which model of Makita impact driver are you using for this job?Although I am getting a good top speed (about 60mph with a slight tailwind) I have noticed the uphill performance is starting to reduce. I suspect the engine revs are slightly less resulting in reduced power under heavy load. What fault in the transmission system would cause this?
It is an older Makita driver with 3 power settings. When it first came out it was their top model.
Anytime you gear taller (higher top speed) you lose the shorter (more acceleration/hill climb) gearing. So tune according to your needs. I'm light weigth and don't do much stop/go so I gear taller. My extra/back up scoot is geared lowered top speed by 2-3mph so it is great for hill climbing, stop/go, and carrying more weight.
@@DaBinChe
I was hoping to find a Makita impact driver that like yours has the correct torque settings. I already have an 18v Makita drill and there seem to be about four models of 18v impact drivers. They all seem to just quote max torque. Also only the expensive versions indicate that they can cope with greater than M16 size of socket.
My concern with the transmission setting is that when new the balance was just right so I was wondering what might have changed to reduce acceleration/hill climbing performance. I had assumed that the slight increase in top speed was the engine running in but perhaps it is the setting changing. What adjustment do you recommend?
@@nigelcharles511 For more top speed and better acceleration/hill climb use 12.5g Dr.Pulley sliders.
For the impact wrench I'll go with the one that has the power level adjustment. The owners manual will say how much torque each setting has.
@@DaBinChe
Thanks for your quick response. My real question was what could have changed with the original setup (which was good) to need a change of pulley sliders? Presumably you get these sliders from Honda dealers or is there a better source?
@@nigelcharles511 The Dr. Pulley (12.5gram) sliders makes it a little quicker in acceleration and hill climb as well as give a couple mph more top speed. Sliders are different from rollers.
thanx your video helped me
There is no governer washer on the variator. The NHX110 is limited electronically via a rev limiter
Some people put grease on variator is this good or bad
no grease
Why?
My bike was moving forward and back when my revs were kept still on a certain mph.... then my belt snapped.... after a week... i changed it into a new belt and bought new variator set and the bikes stilll acting the same ..? I purchase only original honda parts as welll whats the problem with my nhx : /
Selcuk Inan the yo-yo sensation is the rev limiter, I change the belt early at 10k to preempt belt problems
Selcuk Inan also the yo-yo sensation is an indication that the belt is about too go as is the case with your scoot
Selcuk Inan I also see that you asked about it two weeks ago and I told you to check your drive. Turns out I was right it was your drive. Sometimes but not always before the belt goes it'll give you some feed back and it is up to you to take care of it ASAP.
Ive changed the belt and variator and clutch shoes and its still doing the same thing it goes back and forward when youre going with whatever speed... it does it for few minutes then it stops then it comes back, and bon appetitr with the snake!
Selcuk Inan Still sounds like the drive to me if it is hitting the rev limiter before top speed. If it hits the rev limiter around top speed then it is normal. Top seed, stock w/all new drive parts, could be anywhere from 48-53mph. Is the belt, weights and variator new? Any one of these parts can cause it to hit the rev limiter before top speed if worn even if the other parts are new. Rollers OEM? Take a marker and mark the face of the drive towards the higher gearing. Ride around and see how high the belt rides up the varitaor by how much of the mark is left. There should be about 2-3mm before the edge, that is top speed/gearing.
Also is your tire size stock? If you are using a tire with a smaller diameter you are gearing too low and it will hit the rev limiter before top speed.
I have the honda lead scv100 max speed is 40mph had the rollers changed and stil no improvement in speed why the slow speed? I always thought a 100cc would go 60,65mph
thats strabge because mine is very fast lol
not soft spots, flat spots. If there is a flat spot on the rollers then it's near time to chage it.
Thanks
can u help me , i want to know Honda NHX 110 belt specs :D
depends on the design
Red/ Right/ On ramp/ @ 12 o'clock.
Trust me mate they don't, even full 125cc scooters only do 65-70ish. fastest scooter is the Gilera Runner SP125 that does 75mph flat out.
737-18-30 for belt size NHX110 Honda Elite
also i have a scv lead n does 57 tops
thanks