How I sharpen my knives - Razor Sharp Edge Making System
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- Official Simple Little Life video of how I sharpen my knives - Razor Sharp edge making system.
I've been asked a lot in the past to do a video on how I sharpen my knives. I've finally found a process that I feel is worth sharing and can't believe how well it works. I can go from a brand new, never sharpened blade to having a razor edge that shaves perfectly in about a minute. This thing is incredible.
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I know this a couple years old, but I appreciate your comments about hand sharpening. I'm a little convinced it is a talent you're born with, not an acquired skill. I love my wheels!
term of the day....LUBRICITY. love it!
From Canada i love this channel can’t mess with Canadians the Canucks
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Cheers from Calgary! Grew up in southern Alberta and miss the farm life for sure. Thanks for the great video!
Right on! I was born and raised in YYC and now we’re only 20 minutes out. I like that city 👍
Simple Little Life I might have to swing by for a quick visit at some point! I used to plow snow at the Walmart & police station in Strathmore, and occasionally still fly RC planes at the club near there. :)
I just ordered two sets one for home and the other for my sharpening business. You should get sponsored by this company. Big Mex wishes you luck and success with your efforts.
I have not found a faster or better sharpening system than this one. TIP: Turn your bench grinder around so its spinning away from you and work on top of the wheels. Much better control...
Ya beat me to it. A similar video where the guy made his own wheels from plywood and laminated leather went so far as to reverse the base on his grinder rather than work on the back side. You probably can't do that with every grinder.
And safety
@@jeffreydeutsch7336 yes sir I agree. I saw that video also and did the same to my grinder. Reversing the grinder was really straight forward and easy. I also made an mdf wheel and wrapped it in leather. I can get really great results with it.
Instablaster.
Agreed! I literally took a butter knife to that and within 6 passes, it sliced through paper like a scalpel.
Great video, I have this system on one of my grinders. I have a suggestion, you should turn the grinder around so the wheels turn away from you because it will keep you from catching the edge of the knife on the wheel, I know you don't have this problem but a novice will believe me. Another thing the polishing wheel is not round this is easy to corrected with coarse sandpaper attached to a flat board and touching it to the wheel while it is turning, it will be smoother when it is turned up, and you can do this to the grinding wheel also and put another coat of grinding powder on it when you get it round. Not being critical just trying to help.
Kenneth Caine what is the name of grinding wheel product ?
Is it a rule if thumb to Always True up a wheel even when it comes from Norton or an MDF wheel? Like the way you present and explain your videos Thanks for the help, gary
I have used this system for a couple yrs now. Its one of the best systems I have ever used. A few things that helped me out. I turned the grinder base around so it ran away from me so i could work off the top of the wheel. I could control the knife and the angle better. I used a block of wood and course sandpaper to true up the finishing wheel as it was alittle off. Over all a wicked sharpening system. Takes a little practice but its worth it.
turning it around was my first thought
YES, I prefer the top of the wheel going away from me. I just feel it gives me better control.
Just my preference, others may have different ideas.
Thanks for all the great videos. Are you still using this system or have you moved on to something different? Ive just finished my first knife and struggle putting a nice edge on it. Thanks for your help
Great high quality video! Thanks
LOL!!!
Before I spend $80-100+ for this I'd just make my own out of MDF,bees wax,and some alum oxide grit
I've been using this method for many years. I use a variable speed grinder. That way I can slow the speed down if I need to put a edge on first without heating up the edge. I also use cloth buff wheels. My father was a metal polisher for 42 years and used industrial grinders (lathe) to sharpen knives. I have about 40 different wheels for polishing/grinding. Great video.
Thanks!
I want to sharpen cleaver knifes , what type of stone can I put on the grinder. Thanks
Those wheels are cheaper at Lee Valley if you can believe that. Put the wax on first, then add the grit.
Get the Ken Onion model from Worksharp with the blade grinder attachment! I love mine!!
I didn't check the date you published this. Helpful video but the link for the wheel is down.
How do you apply the 180 grit silicon carbide? Just literally put it on your finger and rub it on the wheel? (Not while it’s on obviously)
any worries about over heating the blade and losing the edge?
The manufacturer recommends that the wheels go in the opposite direction where the wheels turn up and away from you. Opposite the way you normally would use it for safty reasons. When I bought my wheels it was stressed many times not to
Use it in the conversational way. You might check your literature. Thanks I'm going to use mine for the first time today.
As you know, there are people out there that need to be instructed as to how to remove there heads from body orifices, and chew gum at the same time. Reading instructions is not there thing.
Thank you for taking the time to read my comment, and making one yourself. Have a good day.
If you have years of experience using a tool it will always be safer to be consistsnt. if you reverse your process you will make things a lot more dangerous...
I use the same wheels on a HF 6 in buffer turned backward. They do work well but have a learning curve.
I actually contacted the company because I had a grinder but it (Skil) was designed that you couldn't take cover off (?). They don't make grinders anymore. Anyway, the company, actually the owner in Willits California, recommended the HF buffer if you need to buy a machine as it provides more clearance.
Sharpened 5 and diamond grit is gone
@@samgross4619 I usually get between 10-15 or so. When I 1st got it I was a)putting too much pressure on it, and b)making way too many passes on the grit wheel. I did need maybe 8-10 passes with some knives I had that I don't remember where they came from and am pretty convinced were never sharp. But my Zwilling, Kershaws, Bucks, etc - 2 or maybe 3 passes on each side are plenty.
The regritting is pretty easy. Paper under the wheel, regular Elmer's white glue spread with your finger, really dump it on while slowly spinning the wheel, let it sit until dry. Dump the excess back in the container.
I've seen this method before also. Wouldn't it be safer if you turned the grinder around, then have your sharpening edge on top?
if we had a dollar for every time we heard "I'm gonna put a link right here" and never add the link.
Does this work with kitchen knives?
By going from coarse grit to polishing without cleaning the blade in between you end up with a good possibility of contaminating your polishing wheel. It's a great system but don't contaminate your wheel by not cleaning in between.
I tried your sharpening wheel link and it does not work , can you pls reply with a working link thank you.
Great video! Our in-house sharpening guy uses these and they work really well. Keepin' it simple.
sweet. good to know. Thanks!
If you spin that grinder round 180 degrees it will be running away from you. Would make life easier I recon.
Simple Little Life
thanks so much! great video, awesome sharpening system
My observation is that knife sharpening by hand is like a martial art. I got sucked into this channel because I decided to learn how to sharpen knives using the traditional Japanese water-stone method as a hobby. After spending a few hours a day over a few months, Im still at best, average. I started to appreciate why Japanse sushi chefs are held in such high esteem!
Edge sharpening is still essentially "material removal" but on a much finer level.
Working up through the grits is incredibly important.
I only got my first blade hair-popping sharp when i got a 6000 grit stone.
Stropping helps too.
Im guessing here, but Ill say that the reason you work up the grits is to save time. It would take an eternity to strop a blunt knife until its sharp.. removing a few metal atoms at a time. This machine basically lets you strop like the bionic man.
I agree. It's an art to sharpen knives that way and I wish so bad I could do it. But I can't so I have to keep snooping around for other ways and this works well.
Well that machine looks awesome and Im jealous. Not to mention that in the field, nobody in their right mind is going to be carrying japanese water stones lol.
TheWtfnonamez haha, that's true.
Did a little research on that sharpener. If its the same wheels they sell on Amazon in the uk, they are compressed leather. So my joke turned out to be literally true: its basically a bionic stropping device. Having just sharpened 8 kitchen knives for a neighbor.. im seriously considering investing in one.
TheWtfnonamez haha, that's funny. I've heard of the leather ones and I think they'd probably be better than these. The ones I have are actually compressed paper. Lot's of people make their own with MDF plywood.
1) The wax bar reduces the build up of heat on the knife edge and reduces the chance of burning the temper. 2) Is your grinder mounted to the table? If not you could have an accident. 3) Knife made from O1 tool steel! Great high carbon steel. Was popular in 1950's through 1970's. In my opinion still more useful than many of the more expensive steels.
My bench grinder has an angle adjustable table and it might work with this one
Yeah, I've thought about that to. Interested to hear how it works for you. Cheers!
Where can I buy this? Links aren't working.
Hey! Thanks for that good method. I was wondering if it wouldn't be safer to reverse the motor and have the wheels turn away from you. I guess that's a simple rewiring.
or just turn the grinder around lol
I use a edge pro apex 4 great system just takes a long time to reprofile . I am not the best at guessing the correct angle so is this worth the investment I do not own a bench grinder so will need on of them as well
Yeah, there are a million different ways, and some people do a great job with one while others can't make that one work for them. Kind of a personal thing too I think. For me, it seems like I was made to sharpen knives this way. That's how easy it is. I'm sure the next guy will try it and it won't work for him.....Cheers!
Mine has 3450 rpm. Do you think it will work?
Great video!!! Thanks
Thank you so much for your insight! Can't wait to get my own system! Yaaaaayyyy!
Hi, great video. Can you advise how you are able to grind a top of blade bevel, when you have a lower bevel as well.
Do you mean the little swedge on the spine of the blade? The one found on knives like clip point hunters? I plan on doing a video of those soon. If that' what you're talking about. I usually use tape on the blade (leave it there while grinding) and on the tape you draw a line where you want that swedge bevel to go. That way you can check it, and the tape protects the main bevel from any change of getting knicked or stuff like that. Let me know if that's what you were talking about. Cheers!
+Simple Little Life hi, thks for quick reply. Yes that sounds right, I have been sketching out designs (120 now drawn) and like that look on a neck knife or top of mini Cleaver.
playeroflife good deal. 120 knife drawings! Wow, that's awesome. They certainly do add a great look and can completely change the look of a knife. Cheers!
You can also find this at Grizzly industries inc.
Great vid! No bla bla, just business! Very rare these days. Thank you!
120 grit is too much, right? I can't seem to find any wheels that are 1000 and 6000 grit like my stones.
Not sure you'll see this on an old video, is there any issues with humidity effecting the paper wheels? my shop tends to get quite humid in the summer months here in MB.
I haven’t found that issue at all. I actually used these same wheels this past week and they’re still performing great.
Try storing your wheels in zip lock bags when not in use !
Maybe add one or two of the silica gel moisture absorbent packs.
Maybe that's a bit late. But you forgot to mention the crucial aspect about rolling directions of the wheel and direction which should knife been set.
Thanks. I'm very happy that I found your channel!
@Glock D because with a regular grinding wheel you do point the blade into the direction of rotation.
I'll invest in these I think
Dude it's a great video, but when you're sharpening the knife i couldn't see how you were doing it
Saw a dude make these years ago and put it on youtube, can't remember what he used I think it might have been plywood or mdf, the same principle though.
Over doubled in price in 4 years. Ugh!!
Amazon today $180.
Popularity goes to their heads and up goes the Ridiculous price
Highway robbery. The good news is paper wheels are easy to make.
If you can, it's safer if you turn the grinder around so it rotates away from you. If you are careful, it's possible for the knife to catch and get thrown at you
The only way that could happen is if you held the blade the wrong way. I tried rotating it the other way and sharpening on the top, but I really didn't like it and for me, I have more control with it set up as shown in the video. And, it's pretty darn safe this way too. But some guys like it running the other way. Cheers!
it takes some experience to use a speed sharpening stone ,if not a strong hold the knifes can go flying.
+Joe Guzman just like a treadmill will send an inexperienced treadmiller flying
I would also add that you just might want to have one wheel on at a time if you want to be super safe. I have ran my arm into the other wheel while working on a longer piece. The wheel won BTW. Just saying
your links are not working for me, is it still available?
Nice. I generally use diamond stones and a strop. However about 15 years ago I bought the Burke Sharpening system. Very similar 3 wheels-two use sandpaper and one uses a leather strop that you put your cutting/polishing compound. Also has 2 cotton wheels one firm and one soft. I use the Burke when I'm having difficulty with the stones. Certain steels/blades sharpen better on the Burke while some sharpen up on the diamond stones.
Your comments on the issues you’ve had sharpening are very familiar. Thanks for the insight. Awesome video. Will subscribe
Have you tried MDF ( Medium density fiber board) wheels with honing buffing compounds. Planing to make and try one.
I have the same system and you have to be careful not to overheat the blade. Practice on the cheap knives 1st
stand the other side of the grinder and use the top of the wheel...you get so much more control. Also...an MDF wheel works really well and costs peanuts.
I’ve always wanted a buffing wheel for quick touch ups but when it comes to sharpening I still use the old stones and they work great for me. The only issue is that I still use a hand strop for my finishing step but it takes longer to do touch ups and I usually end up letting my knives go far longer than I should before actually sharpening them and then it takes me longer than I’d like
Just make a wheel out of mdf. Works exactly the same after you put some wax and abrasives on it
Superior sharpening system for all knife makers.
"You kinda need to pay attention to the angle of the blade" Ahhhh right. The angle is THE most important element of the sharpening process. Hunting (work) knives need far more angle to keep the edge strong.
Thank you Sir...I don't have a lot of time to sharpen my knives, chisels, and irons. You have shown me a system that I must get now...Thanks again and keep up the excellent inspiration.
I got the same issue ... Couldn't find a sharpener I loved ... I have tried this one and yes it works but it doesn't hold an edge ... Ended with the worksharp because the edge is not crazy sharp but holds a working edge longer ... And I use my blades all the time
Same here. Convex edges of worksharp just keep going.. Best solution for me so far
Excellent demonstration. Will be setting one up soon. Thank You Sir
Here is an easy way to make a visual aid for the sharpening angle. Take a flat piece of copy paper and think of it as a circle of 360°. Fold it once lengthwise. Now you have 180°. Fold sideways to make a 90°. Then fold twice from the 90° and you will have 22-1/2°.
Bought it, tried it and - nothing. Knives get sharper but it takes much longer than on this video and the surface of the wheels got damaged...probably from me not doing something correctly. The wax and the white substance came really, really dry and adding it to the wheels was not showing any effect. Just another knife sharpening frustration for me. The grit seems to be well damaged now and I only have two 'sharp' knives, after half an hour of struggle.
Turn the wheel around.....makes it much easier to sharpen...meaning the "on off" switch is not facing you
You can detach the base, turn it around and reattach so the switch is facing you.
I use just stones, usually (japanese grades) from #1000 to all way way into #10000 or #120000. All it really needs is to keep the angle constant. It can take a few tries to learn though. I think learning to use stones took something like 6 months of learning initially.
After stones I strop with a paddle strop. Initially or partially dulled edge gets up to 1um or 0.5um. After stones all it takes is a bit of 0.25um. Under microscope you can see the edge polish. For shaving a lot of stropping on pure leather after that. If you stop at #3000 you get 90% of the sharpness though.
After a good initial sharpening, all it takes is stropping every now and then when you use the knife. With razors I've found they go up to a year if you strop them enough with good technique.
My criteria for a shark knife is that it cuts through paper with its own weight. With razors a hair should split when dropped on the blade.
Those mdf wheels are a fast substitute for manual stropping. I use sometimes felt wheels but I seem to get better results manually. Probably because I've done that a lot more then with the wheels.
I make one with a piece of scrap plywood, 3/4 inch thick. Good video, I run mine backwards thou allot safer that way.
Nice! Thank you 👍
@@Simplelittlelife you should be able to reverse the base on the grinder
I have the work sharp belt grinder and in order to really get the best performance out of the extra fine 6000 grit polishing belts, i apply a small amount of camellia oil onto the belt. It really helps let loose the metal particles so they don’t get caked onto the surface and thus help speed up the final sharpening. ALSO, please sharpen the edge going away from the belt direction on the 6000. You cannot get a proper point to the edge unless you trail away while grinding only. You will round out the apex going the other direction and you will more likely cut the belt before you get it razor sharp.
I want to buy one where can I buy one
Been using this since 1985. Never put a blade on a stone again. You can polish bolsters and back springs with it as well. Make an old pocket knife look brand new.
Hello, I'm from Costa Rica and I'd love to know where can I get that kind of products here.
Great video just could you check the links as i think that they are dead.
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that skinning knife is badass where can I get one
Great video, I have the same problems with putting an first edge on a new knife and I hate the Lansky set, it's so slow. With this system I think life is a lot nicer to me, thanks for sharing.
I've always wondered about putting a leather strap on a sharpening wheel.
Turn your grinder around so the wheels are spinning away from you.
I tried that. Don’t like it nearly as much.
I’ve made those wheels out of fiberboard. I also turn the grinder around so I can work on top of the wheel and see the edge.
The listed links you provided don't connect for me.
Can i sharpen an axe or machete with this? Large surface like machete is really annoying to sharpen, so something like this would absolutely be helpful.
Nice simple setup! Would be awesome to make up a simple jig to hold the knife to the wheel on a consistent bevel. A MDF wheel will do a the same at polishing the micro bevel for any home gamers.
Did you make a jig?
@@jeffstoney6055 I’ve made a solid rest that can change angle. No clamps just have to hold it in position and move across the dressing wheel.
Does grinder sharpen razor blades, electric shaver blades like Andis T line, lawn mower blades, axes, machetes, etc.. ?
You blocked a large part of your sharpening with your arm…lol. Please review your videos before posting. Very generous reviews despite.
Glad I came across this video before dropping money on the Spyderco Sharpmaker! I have the Lansky Deluxe system but also just can't get it right. Cheers from Calgary!
Hey awesome! These are pretty sweet. Thanks for the comment from my hometown! Always nice to see! Cheers!
They made out of 3/4" MDF board, can make your own with a router for $2 instead of paying $49.99
Alex Pavlov which grid do you use on your wheels?
don't be a cheap ass
Alex Pavlov leather disks glued 4 " enuf.
@@brianrezarch7477 I agree! Not everyone has the talent to "make" shit like that.
@@brianrezarch7477 this guy made a knife is he a cheap ass for not just buying one?
why do people show cutting paper when that dulls the knife
Because if there is a spot that still has burr you can feel it and paper is a great way to show you if the entire blade is nice and sharp. Also, if the knife steel is any good, cutting a few pieces of paper won’t dull it enough to notice.
And others want to sound like sharpening is rocket science with all their expensive gizmos. Way to go Simple. Nice that you were careful with "Stephanie." :-)
Primus Optimus w
You didn't even mention the Wicked Edge knife system. It's is expensive and takes longer but I can put an edge that is very sharp.
I have other videos on the wicked edge. When I made this I didn’t yet have the wicked edge.
Yup, it's suggested you turn the grinder around so it would want to pull the blade away from you, and not throw it AT YOU...
Actually one of the reasons a buffer is the most dangerous tool in a shop is because if it catches a tool coming at you, it throws it into you. If it catches a tool going away from you, it throws it into the wall, and the way most people set up a grinder, it bounces off the wall and will hit most people in the face.
Neither direction is very safe lol. But I also prefer to have it facing away.
That won't make a good edge. I mean, a grinder shouldn't really be used for sharpening anything but garden tools anyway, but you can't really sharpen with the abrasive not traveling back into the edge.
@@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney You are watching a video about using a grinder to polish edges. Using MDF wheels with diamond compound on them. Your comment is stupid.
Logan Cressler I don't care what you're using, traveling away from the edge won't sharpen anything unless it's a soft strop with ultra fine rouge on it, and grinders travel too fast anyway. Way too easy to screw up the heat treat, way too hard to get a precise angle, and impossible to make a straight bevel, regardless of what the wheel is.
@@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney This is essentially polishing. You are using the MDF wheel to hold the "rouge" (diamond compound). I dont understand what you dont understand about this. You are literally commenting on a video about it.
For everyone interested in knife sharpening with Paper Wheels: www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/578787-paper-sharpening-wheels-when-your-time-is-important-to-you
Thanks for sharing this!
Do you have any tips on re-applying grit to the coarse wheel once it has worn off completely?
i make mine from MDF works amazing and are cheap :)
You guys that always look for a way to "save a buck", why not build everything yourself...car, boat, house, lawnmower, firearms, tools, clothes, shoes.
@@CuriousKL why pay 50 for something that is only worth 5?
Turn the grinder around so the discs spin away from you and use the top of the wheel..
How do last if you’re a professional sharpener doing 20+ at a time
9:40 Thats how u can tell whos a knife guy, no hairs in the weaker arm.
Hahahaha! 100% correct 😆👍
except if ya ambidextrous, I keep bald spots on both arms
How is this different than using a 1x30 belt sander? Not trying to be a smart ass. I just bought a 1x30 belt sander and some belts for it. Same concept. power tool operated sanding. that's probably about an inch thick too.
What about temper????
What about it?
Stephnie is going to want to know why you are shaving your arms after all these years.
The links in the description show a bad url, can you update?
Wow a bit pricy £85 quid for two wheels
+ Simple Little Life .....great setup, wow. I bought a Wicked Edge Propack II and love it, but it takes me WAY longer to get the kind of edge you just did in a minute or two......if I go through all the grits I have ( all the diamond stones, all the ceramics, then all the strops ) it gets hair popping edges, but takes a long time.
I've never heard of that system before but it does look quite impressive. Lots of ways to do it and as long as your knife gets really sharp, it's all good. Cheers!
yeah, it's a really nice system, albeit very expensive. The main selling point for it is the vise setup you mount the knife in. It locks up solidly, gripped at the spine, and you set your angles using the LH & RH arms the abrasive paddles slide onto. There is no need to " hand or manually " try to keep the same bevel angle....it does that for you. ( check it out here: www.wickededgeusa.com )
Darrell Allen I'm actually going to check them out. What you described sounds too interesting not to a least have a look at. Thanks for sharing the info. Cheers!
Hey, great video! Question though... does the heat from this method ruin the heat treatment of the metal on the edge?
Carl Lovestrom I work as a welder for 45 years years and I know quite a bit about metal and let me tell you that the minute you sharpen a knife on a speeding wheel, you have altered the hardening of the cutting edge quality. Yes your knifes will be very sharp but, they will loose their cutting edge very fast. Best method is water stone, no heat whatsoever. Don’t forget that the cutting edge is very thin and heats up quickly and, to create a spark like you see in this video, you need heat!
@@charger440 Considering that 99.555% of knives that anyone will ever have began their life being sharpened on a belt grinder, I dont think your argument holds water. Yes, heat can damage a blade. But just about every knife made is initially sharpened on a belt grinder. You can absolutely sharpen with speed and not damage the knife.
The key is very light pressure, fast strokes and keep a finger as close to the knife edge as possible. You will burn your finger before you hurt the temper. Once again very light pressure
@@charger440 Heat from welding is quite different than that from grinding an edge or grinding with an angle grinder in general. As long as it doesn't show any discoloration ( anything beyond straw which is anything blueish and beyond which you don't want if you don't want to lose the tempering ) the structure will stay the same. As someone who had an apprenticeship as a tool and die maker i have been grinding and welding things for years and i know you have to apply a lot of pressure and heat to actually cause any metal / steel to discolor. I am working as a CNC machinist for 20 years with calcium silicate ( stuff similar to what'S in dry walls but harder and tougher ). We can't cool the cutting bits because that would ruin the material and we don't get any discoloration unless we run to high RPM and to much feed.
Yes, heat from a dishwasher doesn't change knife steel much. Thats mostly a hoax (still dishwashers and knives are a no go due to chemicals AND heat, but thats another reason)
What everyone here tends to forget is the following:
No one is saying the heat changes the metal of the whole blade.
Actually only less than the first millimeter is what maters for sharpness.
The heat from a grinding wheel doesn't change the metal of the full knive. However: Just like it heats those sparks, it also heats that VERY VERY small area that is the edge of the knife. It won't damage the knife as a whole and could easily be resharpened in a proper way, but an edge from a fast grinder is not as hard as the rest of your knive and thus doesn't hold its edge for as long as a slow sharpening methode.
Moving faster does limit the of heat transfer. But at 3000+rpm with these wheel sizes, you need to move so fast it's undoable. when using half speed (about 1500rpm) wheels, it is possible if kept within a few seconds per pass (see Knifegrinders research on it).
Less pressure decreases the friction, which indeed does lower the heat. But the edge is so microscopicly thin, that most of the friction is not caused by excess pressure but by putting it against a extremely fast moving and extremely coarse grinder (