Can we make this knife sharpener better? Tool Time Tuesday
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- The Paper Wheels. More specifically, the razor-sharp edge making system. They're great. But, they generate heat. Can we improve that part of the system?
The Razor Sharp wheels I have are here: amzn.to/33sXJCf
There's also a less expensive option that probably works the same way: amzn.to/2XVqExz
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tool time tuesday is easily my favorite vid....lets have tool time wednesday, thursday and friday as well.
Thanks for this, I had thought of your system after seeing it here and then forgot to look into suppliers where I live. Now you have me fired up again.
Tool Time Tuesdays are great.
I love all the recent content even the quick ones keep em coming.
I have a paper wheel sharpener. I don't feel like a machinist when I use it, but I wind up with a sharp knife. One thing I did was I replaced the 180 grit on the course wheel with a finer grit, possibly 320. It was much more satisfying as I rarely sharpen a totally dull knife, and it feels less destructive. I got the grit on Ebay.
@Simple little life Perfect explanation of the paper wheels, I havent use it before right now i have no doubt anymore
Love all the content lately!
Good honest video, thanks for sharing!
I love your videos they are so informative and great. You explain everything so well and make following you so easy. Thanks for the uploads
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. Thank you for watching! 🙏👍
I love tool time Tuesdays!
Always wondered about how hot those bench grinder set ups got. Wonderful information as always, thanks!
Nice one!
I would love to see all the available grindings with a small sample how to do it and what they should be used for. In one Video.
Thank you! Very informational!
Nice, thanks for the video and review.
Love it!
Another perfect one
Great job
Nice Job! I like it for a quick touch up.
Not sure why exactly but his video was REALLY NICE with all the different angles on things and back and forth reasoning with how you use your shop and tools. Big up and thanks! :)
I'm ready for the next build along!! When are we going to do another build along???
I never thought about standing to the side while turning on the bench grinder. It will now be put into practice. Thanks for that. I have been using the Wicked Edge to sharpen my knives and I finish the process with a leather stropping belt on my 1x30. I’m going to look into those paper wheels. Thanks again!
I have found 600 grit on the 1 by 30 followed by leather belt gives a good quick edge, you do have to be careful to avoid overheating though.
Outstanding,educational, will be using a low speed grinder with the paper sharpening system.
Thank you so much!
Great video! I’d love to see you do some edge retention and cutting tests with O-1 and especially Nitro V.
Great video as always!
I wanted to look at this system the last time you kind of "showcased" this but forgot all about it until now.
I find it funny that the manufacturer actually calls for above 3000 RPM's.
Loving the everyday videos thanks for the entertainment man good stuff. Always get the notifications lol
Good video. Thanks for posting.
Great video, going to be looking into that exact grinder. You asked for video ideas. Would be cool to see a tactical knife build. Or maybe how to do “rock” texture on handle or blade.
I was thinking of overheating when I first saw you introduce the system. Slowing it really makes sense I guess. Especially the left stropping wheel should generate a lot of friction. Could be an idea to make that one even smaller to get less surface speed.
Well explained. And I really like that you give out the safety stuff for the people who haven't been trained. 👍
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An interesting video. Thank you, Sir.
Excellent info Jeremy !! Id be interested to know where you picked the grinder up...
I’m no electricutionist, but AVE (and a few others) has a few vids showing how you can control the pixies going into your tool of choice to change the speed. May or may not apply here. Love the content, keep up the great work.
Is that the name of the channel? AVE?
Good to know. I have the same wheels per your recommendation but, have ruined the temper on an old pocket knife. Next, to get a slower rpm grinder.
Nice job! Happy thanksgiving from Texas.
How do you add more grit to the sharpening wheel? I’m losing grit too fast! Thanks for all the great vids!
How do you identify a knife maker? Shaved arms.
I just bought the Tormek 8 and I love it. If used correctly you can't overheat your steel and you get a razor edge.
Tormek = $$$$
I love the videossss keep up the good work
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that🙏👍
Of course!
So cool I've bin looking for a slow grinder to for wire wheels they throw things
Never thought about sticking one of those on a low speed grinder. I love how well they work, but equally hate/fear them. Between them grabbing or throwing whatever I'm working on, me getting too close and loosing a few layers of skin, and having to pull wire bristles out of my arms/legs/chest, they like to make life interesting. The ones for angle grinders are even worse.
I love my paper wheels, I'm definitely going to look at a low speed grinder. I'll be honest, I didn't even know that was a thing
Bought a variable speed, 8" grinder from H F recently but haven't tried it yet.
I guess there are a few around, but this was the first one I've seen.
Just watching your latest video. I love the paper wheels, now seeing you using a slower grinder it's giving me some ideas. One issue I'm having with the paper wheels is regriting the wheel. I haven't found a really good video that shows how it's done. I don't know what it is supposed to look like when it's usable vs. unusable. When I do the regrit I always get a faceful of silicon carbide when I start it and put a blade to it. If you could make a video on this and the correct procedures I'd come out there and give you a big high five...and I'd also answer your hate mail comments...hahaha. thank you for all you've done.
Respiratory protection ???
Abrasives are bad for your lungs.
I use a 1/2" drill (Makita) in a vise low rpm and high torque works perfect
I use beeswax on my sharpening belts and my old paper wheels and it's a lot more difficult to heat the steel up. The beeswax really cuts down on the friction.
Great video !!! I wonder if a variable speed controller would work to slow down the rpm on my bench grinder . Going to give it a try.
Not sure if they work on brushless motors.
Good video...👍🏼
An idea for another video cut be texturing and finishing G10/Micarta knife handles.
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Awesome videos. I know in another video you said that the paper wheels recommended a 3600 rpm grinder do you prefer the slower speed over that one after using it?
I have had paper wheels for years and never over heated a edge yet. But I know when to back off. A slower speed wheel is an advantage but it can function fine at a higher speed with care.
At the cost of these blades any knife nowadays it’s just a chance I’m not willing to take it happened so fast overheating
I have my paper wheels on a 1750 rpm grinder. I have my cotton edge buffing wheels on a 3600 rpm grinder. I recently purchased a Wen wet/dry grinder with 110 rpm.
What is the little knife/blade you are testing with? Thanks for the great video!
I now have the high urge to watch busta rhymes after your outro! am excited for your 30 days callenge.
I have the same set up with variables speed bench grinder use it always in a low speed and it works , trust me i still use whet stones and i like sharpening with wet stones but this is much faster and it works every time
I’d like to see your kydex setup!
I also like paper wheels and felt wheels for sharpening. I have been trying to think of a way to design a simple attachment to my 2x72 grinder so I could make use of the variable speed. So far all my Ideas exceed the fabrication techniques that I have in my shop. I would like the attachment to be driven by a 2x72 belt with a shaft holding the wheel like the bench grinder.
I think I need a new bench grinder just because of how quiet this one is!
And I use it for sharpening wood lathe tools.
Have you ever used a brand, other than the Razor Sharp system?
I just learned about this, maybe a month ago and thought it might be a gimmick. Cool to hear you address the wheels as well.
Thanks.
Hey Jeremy how goes it? Could you please let me know how you put the powder back on the paper wheel?
I just built a pulse width modulator 110 controller...I wonder if it would slow my grinder down.
Would the light on the grinder have helped see the burr any better?
Yes it does. I figured I might as well toss a bulb in there and low and behold, it’s actually really nice. 👍
Why would you have both a grinder / paper wheel and a wicked edge system when you can get an edge like that from the wheel system? Just curious, Thank you for the tips!
After sleeping on my question I want to add. If, like me, you like having all the tools you need for the job, 😉 I get it! I was really just curious?
Xlnt, finally someone explaining what real use the paper cutting test is, I mean, who is actually buying or making a knife just to spend their day/s shaving their arms or destroying their phone book? Great vid, plenty food for thought👍
If you want it run the other way and still retain the controls up front, cant the motor be wired to run the other direction? Just a thought.
Any update on your hand sanding process? Any new tricks you could share?
Video ideas: Drilling hardened steel. Handle stabilization. Corby bolts vs. pins.
I love Razor Sharp. Though you never wanna see sparks. Hence the wax. Sparks indicate that you're already overheating the apex. You might get away with it on high alloy stainless tool steels. On high carbon or similar you probably lose some hardness even if it feels cold to the touch. You never feel the true heat inside the apex with your fingers. Temper colors also don't tell you the whole story, especially on stainless steels.
1750 is still way too much it should be down to 1100 and even as low as 400 for speed and it should have a clutch built in like a washing machine motor this way if something goes wrong the machine basically shuts down before everything explodes in your face and you could also use it with buffing polishing pads make it a dual application also I would like to see one with the arms way longer away from the machine so there’s wiggle room to work
Hi from N.Z.. I notice a lot of knife makers like yourself do most of their bevels and sharpening freehand. I also see there are jigs available to do it on a 2x72.. What gives the the best result, or is easiest method?
I enjoy the time with a wet stone however I think I just might get something like this. Every knife around here would be razor sharp lol
I have a question is it hard to make a straight razor?
build along please those are great
Can't seem to find the slower speed King grinder in the states, do you have a link you might share? thank you
Ima comment so maybe I'll see this if answered
If you get a chance try some green compound. It is finer than White and will generate less heat. Check oout the Norton white wheels at Lee Valley
Try a hard felt wheel on the 1750 grinder. There are many rouges that you can get for different metals and what your goal is. All woodworkers use a 1750 grinder to sharpen all of their lath tools and to grind a new primary bevel on plane blades and chisels. Plan blades and chisels are always finished on stones or equivalent films. Lath tools cut with a burr so coming of the grinder is usually enough, then you use a diamond plate to refresh the burr. Have fun learning.
"There are many ways to skin a cat.", and yours is great!😁😸👍👊
Hahahaha! Thank you 😆👍
Is the small wheel tool holder something you made..?...guess I'll go back and look through the vids..
Do you know of any sure fire ways to compare quality of sharpened edge?
Edge-On-Up Professional Edge Tester is suppsedly becoming a standard for testing edge sharpness. There may be similar methods. My problem is this method is purely about sharpness and not edge retention, but it's good start at a standard.
Good stuff! Great grinder find there... had no idea they made lower rpm grinders.
The lower speed grinders are a bit hard to find.
Thankfully, we have the internet now.
"Chinesium" Oh wow.... that is truly fantastic.
Love you profile picture, sir
AVE said it first
I hooked my grinder to a limit switch, basically a dimmer switch to lower the speed.
You can purchase a variable speed 1/2" drill from Harbor Freight for $40 with a dial on the locking trigger for speed control. Using an adapter for mounting the grinding wheel then you can clamp the drill to the table. Voila you have a portable low rpm sharping wheel.
How has this worked for you because it recommends higher speeds but I am thinking of getting a low speed bench grinder if these wheels work well with them.
How do you add the silicone carbide to the grinding wheel?
Can you please share where you got your paper wheels?
I have links in the description now 👍
@@Simplelittlelife thanks
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How did the user maintain the same edge angle from pass to pass (and side to side)? I've found that if that isn't done, a knife can be very sharp but won't hold an edge. What am I missing>
I'd bet the wheel was hard to remove for one or both of two reasons. First, moisture, just a little, over time caused it to swell. Second, the compression from the washer may have caused a little bit of the swelling in addition to keeping the moisture swelling uniform and true.
A big issue with bench grinder sharpening or wheels in general is concave blade edge.
My opinion about sharpening knives: As long as you get it sharp, I dont care how you do it as long as youre comfortable with it👌🏻
Is there a wheel attachment system to add to a regular electric handheld electric angle grinder?
I think the RPM on hand held angle grinders is way too fast for something like this.
@@Simplelittlelife noted. Thank you.
For my own personal reasons, I'd be a bit cautious about running MDF wheels at 3,600 RPM.
My preference would be 1,725 RPM or less but that is just my choice.
I do like the MDF sharpening idea and it would be my first choice for sharpening knives, wood lathe tools, etc. For axes and metal cutting chisels, I'd stick with the stones.
Would you mind sharing those personal reasons?
@@carlosmariosuarez5319
1. MDF is not and was not designed to be used for rotating apparatus.
2. There has been no testing by a qualified
test lab that would certify MDF for this application. (to my knowledge)
3. You are a one person test lab. If the wheel explodes, your life could be in danger, you could lose an eye, or suffer serious bodily injury.
4. There are more reasons which I won't get into with this discussion.
5. Use at your own risk !
Thanks for your reply
Why not just use a fine belt on the VFD controlled 2x72?
I still struggle to get a proper bevel angle with the paper wheels.
Did you land up not liking your belt grinder jig you showed on patreon?
I have the same set up they sent me a block of wax to put on the sandpaper side so that it stays cooler. Seems to work good.
I do have a variable speed control that lets me slow it down pretty good.
Do you think a candle would work, or is it too hard compared to the wax it comes with?
@@carlosmariosuarez5319 it should, it’s just to cut down the friction some
On the normal speed bench grinder, I would use less pressure and maybe an 800 grit SiC powder on the wheel.
How have you knot found the SPECIALITY purpose made bench top low speed sharpening grinders.
They have a wetstone on one side with a trough for water, and a leather side on the other, and they spin at around 70-200rpm.
Look for Tormeks
Yeah, I'd love to see a Tormek review from you.
I love princess auto
You're donig tool time Tuesday all wrong.. It's Wednesday in Aus 😏
I'm on the ..no heat.. side of the fence. Tormek T4 is a great tool but a bit costly. Was going to get a cheaper Triton machine but it seems they are no longer available here.
Those guys that are paranoid about heat don't understand heat treating and metallurgy. Way too much to type out but it takes a substantial amount of heat/temperature change to change the grain structure. As long as you are not turning colours and even then sometimes it does not have a large effect. Depending on the steel the change will happen at different temperature. The edge being the obvious thinnest is most quickly effected but again if you are not changing colours there is nothing to worry about.
I want you to show how to sharpen a serrated blade. Not the tacticool kind but like a bread knife.
Always wanted some of those wheels but they are so expensive.
I have made mine out of leftover MDF, works like a charm.
@@redangrybird7564 I bought a wheel at the dollar store but it wasnt even perfectly round. Id Like to just buy a wheel.
@@skillage18 A wheel is of not much use if you don't have a bench grinder.
@@redangrybird7564 You dont say... I have three bench grinders.
@@skillage18 ok, good, if you can fit one of those wheels then you can easily true the wheel with a wood chisel or a file. Check some videos on how to true a MDF wheel. That was the way I true the one I made. Cheers 😀👍
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