funniest and realest person on booktube. i’m torn because your channel deserves to grow even more and have all the subscribers but at the same time i want you to be my precious obscure gem that not enough people know about damn
"the biggest character development in this book...is Leigh Bardugo herself" OMG CINDY YOU BURRRNNNN. Loved hearing your thoughts on these 3 books, particularly since I loved Vengeful so much, so it was great to hear your perspective!
The transition from the Grisha Trilogy to Six of Crows was really unbelievable. Six of Crows was a heck of a masterpiece! The Grisha Trilogy was really average for me. Including Alina. Though I did think that she, along with the plot, got better in the second and third book. But, I really loved Nikolai!!! And the other supporting characters from the last two books! That's why I'm really looking forward to King of Scars. And also because Nina's still going to be in it. Would love to hear about your perspective when you finish the trilogy
i got soc without reading the shadow and bone trilogy, should i get the trilogy? i don’t want to esp if it’s not necessary for me to understand soc.. pls help!!
@@xxxxxxuan You don't need to read grisha trilogy to understand Soc. You can easily understand the storyline of soc without reading the grisha trilogy because both are set in different timeline and different eras of grishaworld. I, myself have read Soc duology without reading grisha trilogy and I understand everything even the plot was emerged.
thank god someone else said it!!! when i saw ve schwab tweet that vengeful is about "women reclaiming their powerful from men" i literally said out loud "i feel like you think you wrote a different book than what you actually wrote". vengeful was good but so insanely unfocused, and as someone who has read almost every schwab book, i think the treatment of the female characters in her stories is generally pretty bad.
i mean i GUESS i can see how marcella literally reclaimed (super) POWERS from men but if you're talking in a feminist metaphorical way she definitely did not and turned out to be a flat character/caricature. i think people often think that strong female characters are supposed to be tough, cruel, badass bitches, which is fine, but there needs to be other layers to their character. she didn't have much of a story arc or any emotional development and her character was static throughout. it's a shame, as i think she could've been better if the book just chose what to focus on.
agreed. her arc was basically that she took over the mob for a week, threw a party, and then died. she was an interesting character at the beginning, but overall how her character was handled left me with a bad taste.
Just finished A Darker Shade of Magic and I FEEL THIS COMMENT! Lila felt entirely like a plot solution and basically not a person. She had catchy one-liners but I have yet to understand how she felt about LITERALLY anything in the book.
@Kristyn, so true!! Also the fact that Victoria Schwab said that people who don't like Lila don't like her because she's a woman infinitely pisses me off. No, we don't like her because she was a poorly written character.
@@chelseas1346 I haven't read Shades of Magic 2 & 3, so I'm not sure if Lila is written better or if she stays the same, I guess we'll see! Maybe her new Addie La Rue book will be a sort of female character writing redemption
i know exactly what you mean about the darkling bc i always see so much thirst going on and i’m ALWAYS down for thirst. and that’s such a fun name, like c’mon!! ALSO GO OFF ON THE LISTENING TO OLD CHARACTERS THING - THEY’VE ALL SEEN SOME SHIT, THEY KNOW 😩
I'm currently reading Siege and Storm and oh boy do I miss Crooked Kingdom. I mean, I like it, but it is simply not as good as Six of Crows. So I'm just here adoring Leigh Bardugo for her character development 😂
man i read some crooked kingdom quotes on tumblr a few nights ago and it got me feeling all wistful and nostalgic over the amazing characters and relationships in that series which is a total 180 from the grisha trilogy lmao
Well, there might be two reasons why you should do that: 1. CK is spoiler-ish for the The Grisha trilogy 2. You may like CK even more after finishing Grisha because it's more complex and simply better, but that's just my opinion 😅
I totally feel you on the Grisha Trilogy I'm like I can't believe leigha bardugo wrote that series before the epicness that is six of crows and crooked kingdoms. you can really tell how much she's grown as a writer!
I'm super late to this vid, but I just finished the Villains duology last week and I need to let this out: VICIOUS DID NOT NEED A SEQUEL To me, everything was pretty well fleshed out already and that ending was already perfect because it was open enough for possibilities in my imagination or maybe for some companion books set in the same universe while still managing to leave me satisfied because the whole revenge arc was sufficiently closed. Still, I was pretty excited for Vengeful because the book's synopsis made it seem like it was gonna bring back the characters I know and love from the first book while at the same time shifting the focus to new female characters who were just as badass and morally gray as Victor and Eli. But then, I got into Vengeful and I definitely intrigued at first, especially by Marcella's character (mostly because I pictured her as Cate Blanchett in my head and that woman could step on me any day) but halfway through it, all I could think about was "what is the point of this story?" we were following so many storylines with so many characters and yet not one of them managed to be fleshed out enough to be satisfying. I completely agree with you when you said that Marcella and June were nothing but glorified plot devices. I also could care less about Stell. He's literally a useless officer (the only reason he managed to catch Eli was because victor planned it and vice versa). Vengeful would have been better if Schwab just managed to decide if she wanted it to be a sequel or a companion piece. anyways, amazing video as usual. go get those dollar-dollar bills, queen!
your thoughts on vengeful are just 👌👌👌 i love that you never fall to the hype. not that there's anything wrong with liking a hyped up book, but i feel like some ppl feel they can't talk about aspects of a book they didn't like if it's super hyped. but like.. u just go for it LMAO and i just love the way you critically look at the books you read. thanks for my life cindy.
thank you! i like weighing out pros and cons whenever i read a book, even if i personally loved the book (like i LOVE six of crows but i acknowledge its flaws too) i think you can still enjoy a book but know areas it could improve upon
i am so entranced by the way the ring on your jumper dangles around as you talk. also RT at leigh bardugo's glow up from the grisha trilogy to the six of crows duology
I wish Vicious had just been a standalone novel. The ending of the first book was satisfying and left so many possibilities for our imagination but it really did feel like an ending. Unlike with Vengeful...
I'm only 75 pages in so far on Shadow & Bone, and I have a feeling I'm going to hold the same views you do. I'm really kind of neutral on Alina, and I hate how she interacts with the other young women in the novel so far. Hopefully that'll get better, but I have a feeling it won't. Also I must admit the reason I read this was because of Six of Crows and partly to get on board the Thirst Train for the Darkling.
I agree with you that women didn’t reclaim their power in Vengeful. Like in no way did Marcella. Maybe June. But I didn’t feel any female empowerment tinglies at all
For some reason, no matter how much I love V. E. Schwab's actual writing, I can't get into her plots or characters. Makes me feel like the odd one out but I'm glad to know someone else didn't like one of her books!
honestly same? I keep reading her books and getting exciting about what she says/does, I really like her as a person and I love her writing but there's almost always a point in her novels when I kinda lose my interest. I think it has to do with the way she portrays her characters and especially her female characters - the strong, badass, a little sassy cliché I'm not very fond of -... although I admire her for writing so much in so little time and still deliver quality novels, sometimes I wish she would spend more time on a book and make it more intricate, surprising, and perhaps more characters driven? SORRY THAT WAS LONG.
@@avrilobnubile That's okay I love long comments! I totally agree with your points. All of her books' premises are so interesting but they never follow through for me. I read the Shades of Magic trilogy but wasn't invested, and then read This Savage Song and outright didn't like it. What I really read books for are the characters and hers feel like wasted potential. But gosh, her writing is gorgeous!
So fascinating to hear your thoughts on Vengeful. It was a five star for me but I definitely understand your views, even if I don’t fully agree. 😂 The one thing I think surprised me in reading it this month is that everyone seemed to be all about Marcella (on social media) but I think June is more intriguing specifically because her background and motives were only hinted at. I hope the third - whenever it happens - focuses on her. Great wrap up!
I felt the same way about The Grisha Trilogy. I was skeptical about Six of Crows because of it, but I just started reading Six of Crows and WOW. Talk about a glow up.
‘What did the woods keep? Not my interest!’ 😂 Pure gold. I do agree with all of your opinions on Vengeful and Shadow and Bone despite giving the former 5 stars and the latter 4 stars but I am pure trash for Schwab and Bardugo - my 2 favourite writers!
shadow and bone is one of those books that is fun to read in the moment but as soon as you put the book down you forget about it seriously tho LB has improved so much I have no idea how soc and this trilogy was written by the same person ALSO you dragging Alina has me laughing so hard she really is such a fool. hopefully, you enjoy the second and third book more !
Loved hearing your opinions about Vengeful. I haven’t gotten to it yet, but from having read the Shades of Magic trilogy, I tend to find that Scwab’s middle books kind of set up the last book. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it’s almost easier for me to wait until the trilogy is complete so I can go straight from book 2 to book 3. As I’m saying this...I’m assuming that it’s going to be a trilogy :O I went to a signing of hers and she said that was her intention. But who knows, maybe I’m full of it 💁🏻♀️
that's a great point and now makes me realize why i tend to not like schwab's sequels/middle books as much! i personally expect every book in a series to be strong enough as a standalone too and don't like it when there's no complete character arc under the guise that it will be finished in the next book. give me some closure!!
I did like some parts of “Vengeful”, but I feel like Marcella and June were really one dimensional characters, I didn’t really understand their motivations at all. I would’ve really liked to see more of the dynamic between Eli and Victor and *especially* between Victor and Sydney. Honestly I think it would’ve been okay for Schwab to ignore Eli altogether, to just let him be off in prison, and to focus mostly on Victor and Sydney, especially if Sydney brought Serena back from the dead.
you know what i found out just recently...on twitter VE Schwab mentioned that she rewrote the entirety of Vengeful from scratch about 6 months before she handed it in. not to talk trash about her or overuse the meme but.......it really shows lol
Bruuuuh. Okay I’ve been falling down the rabbit hole of booktube, since coming to uni it’s been awhile since I’ve really read a book that wasn’t for school. But I used to absolutely devour YA and it’s cool to see everyone’s hot takes on them. And I am so excited to see you talk about Shadow and Bone because I remember reading when it when it had just come out and being so excited but ultimately disappointed. I had heard chatter that Six of Crows was something worth checking out, but I’ve been admittedly dragging my feet. This video really made me curious about the authors supposed glow up and has revitalized my excited for finally starting Six of Crows. Thank you and great video!
I'm glad I watched your review bc I couldn't not finish shadow and bone and I was like there's no way I'm reading six of crows but now I'm gonna read it
I'm suffering through Siege and Storm right now. I don't like Aline, I REALLY don't like Mal. The only enjoyable parts are Nikolai, Genya, and the knowledge that Leigh Bardugo has gotten 1000% better at writing
I am reading Vengeful and when I first heard of it I was thinking it was gonna be just about the effects of what happened at the end of Vicious. I'm still gonna read it, but I understand where the whole "It's muddled" thing comes from. I was thrown through a loop when we started out with someone who we hadn't met. I hope I like it, but I've already gotten the feeling that the writing isn't as passionate as Vicious was. I don't know if that makes sense. I was sucked into Vicious and I haven't been sucked into Vengeful which... sucks.
Watching your wrap ups aren’t overwhelming, because usually other booktubers read a crap ton of books and it makes me feel like I should be doing more reading. But I’m a slow reader 😬 so this is refreshing.
i wanted to read the Grisha trilogy, really. but soc just kicked my standards up a million notch. i wished i started the trilogy first. also, youre the only one i know who made wrap ups hilarious. always loving your intros. xo
your review of crooked kingdom was amazing. but yes i would advise you to wait a while before starting the grisha trilogy, because the difference in quality will be too much lol
I can't believe you took us on the merry-go-round. I was expecting you to say like 12 and then you said 3 and I burst out laughing which just aggravated my coughing (I have a cold). So um, yeah, if I choke to death mid-typing this, know that I died happy. ghjghjghjghj. I had to fastforward through your vengeful talk cuz I'm trying to avoid all talk about it until I've read it. I've been doing the same for everything Laini Taylor and ADSOM series. Some series I want to walk into, blind. "She just lacked so much common sense" Fhjhjghjghjg. That was so me screaming at Alina through the entire book... *sigh* That girl... I can't believe you got through the entire wrap-up without talking about Mal........
So I’ve finished Shadow and Bone and... idk like... OMG I AM SO INTO IT. Like, in the middle something happened (I think it was when Mal finds Alina in the woods, idk) and I had to stop reading it and I was so happy for Alina’s sake that now she’s was gonna be ok... I nearly cried... in that time I felt that the story got into me. Now when I listen to a playlist made for the book I feel SO EMOTIONAL thinking about the whole thing... the time Mal and Alina spent suffering together URGH THEY ARE SO CUTE. In the end of the ebook I was reading, it had a “bonus” part with part of the story being told from Genya point of view and it was A THING... Like... now I feel emotional when it comes to the relationship of Alina and her, because I like her but she’s kinda in the villain side... so.. idk... I LIKE HER and I don’t want her to feel sad (like in the end of the book when she has her eyes full with tears 😭 leaving Alina...) I know the book has some flaws, and clichés, but still made me FEEL a lot of FEELS 😂, so I gave 4 stars but I know it deserves 3... I’m a little overwhelmed with the story so idk. I’m kinda in the side of hating the Darkling btw, but he’s a interesting character 👌🏻
i like genya too!! honestly if u really enjoyed the book then that's fantastic, it's ok if it ur rating is not what the book "deserves", what matters is that u enjoy it and it impacts u
I actually liked Vengeful a lot more than Vicious. Eli was never a good villain to me, and Serena was the one I was invested in in Vicious. In Vengeful, Marcella took that spot, and her quirky minion squad made it more fun.
Even tho it was an average month for you, I still loved this wrap up because sharing your thoughts is important and I always value that regardless of how many books one has read!! And I know everyone says this, but our humor is amazing AS ALWAYS xoxox ❤️👌🏻
I agree with a lot of the points you raised about Vengeful, and coincidentally I also rated it as one star lower than I did Vicious as a result. - Marcella was a total waste in my opinion. She was clearly built as you said, as a catalyst to bring Eli and Victor together for the climax. Her own story started to develop and we got a tiny bit of backstory for her but then it just sort of ended without her changing or learning anything before the end of her arc. - I disagree with you about June, but she could have been handled better. It seemed pretty clear to me that there is more going on with June than we are being given in this book and it's being set up for the third installment, the same is true of Stell's second in command. - Stell was pretty useless to be honest. He could have become a Nick Fury type but he was just a lame duck. - I think the stuff we got with Victor and Eli was good but it would have been more interesting if we got to see a more covert cat and mouse game between them. Eli could catch on to Victor really early on and have to try to hinder his progress whilst keeping it secret from Stell and EON, and Victor could realise what's going on and try to find a way to take Eli out whilst dodging EON and dealing with his other stuff. - I enjoyed the time-hopping stuff but I'm a sucker for a good ticking clock device and Schwab delivered on that for me.
Yea there's def setup for June in the 3rd book but I felt like her role in the 2nd book was pointless (I judge each book in a series on its own so I personally don't like reading books that are just there as filler between the 1st and 3rd book - this was my POV on her darker shade of magic series as well). Stell was boring and useless and just a fill-in character lol. I personally don't think we got enough of Victor and Eli (and that's coming from me who doesn't even care that much for them in the first place) and you're right that there should have been more of a cat and mouse game between them rather than have it be buildup for like 80% of the book. We only got ONE scene between them where they actually saw each other and communicated; the rest of the time, they were separated, which seems kind of a shame for readers who are invested in Victor and Eli and want more interactions beyond their mind games. I really enjoyed the time-hopping format in the 1st book but found it hard to follow in the 2nd book, maybe because there were too many characters and storylines this time. And totally agree about Marcella being such a waste! I really do feel like if the book focused on Marcella VS June with a new rivalry we could've enjoyed deeper character development for these ladies.
"What did the woods keep?- not my interest!" - HAAAAAA!!! Also, I'm with you on skipping the Shadow and Bone trilogy and just going straight in with Six of Crows (well... when I actually get around to it!) Amazing wrap up, as always! 💙💙💙
the relationship between victor and eli in vengeful, is that the hatred of victor to eli has lose it spark, since it has been five years and he was dying, again and again.
You summed up how I felt about What The Woods Keep. Once I knew what was going to happen I wanted to finish it as soon as possible. I felt like I was reading a fan fiction...
Can I just say that I love your videos, like I'm sitting here listening to you ramble about books I have no interest in and I am having the time of my life? You could make a 30-minute long video talking what shampoo you use and I would be like "wow such a great entertaining video". Love your sass and your sense of humor
thanks so much! i sometimes feel like my wrapups are kinda boring (especially since most of the time i don't care much for the books i've read lol) but it's encouraging to hear that you still find entertainment in them anyway :) what books ARE you interested in?
@@withcindy I like fantasy a lot but I am not so keen on YA (I feel too old for all that shit even tho I am only 21). Actually, I find the books you like, for example Six of Crows, very intriguing but I am just a bad reader and I know I won't read them.
(spoilers) . . . honestly my disappointment started the moment serena died in vicious like wtf she was the character I was most interested about and her character was the least explored for such a complex looking character, so when I saw the second book would introduce other two female characters with victor and eli again I just knew it I would be left wanting more from the girls again
I've been studying the whole night watching random videos on the background and at some point UA-cam started to show me books related videos. I've seen so many videos from so many channels for the last like 12 hours but you're the first booktuber I've subscribed to. You're funny and original, already love your channel although I watched maybe just 4 or 5 videos of yours. Keep on.
I haven’t actually seen any reviews of Vengeful because I’ve been avoiding them until I’ve read it, so it’s interesting to hear some negative opinions about it and I’ll definitely keep this in mind when I finally get to it!
Huh, I'm a little nervous about reading Vengeful now. But somehow after your review of Shadow and Bone I'm even more excited to start it tomorrow! Love you and your reviews so much 💜💜
when i finished vengeful, the rating on goodreads was so high and i thought i was the only one who didn't really like it lol. marcella and victor literally murder so many people i just stopped giving a shit abt people dying in the story, which is Not Good if you're trying to build up tension and stakes for the climax
I also thought shadow and bone was kinda generic but I also felt like I read it at the right time because I still really enjoyed it! It gave me kind of a nostalgic feel by reminding me about other stories. Also I have no feelings toward the darkling even after finishing the trilogy. I just don't get the thirst at all. The thirst for Nikolai however... can't wait for you to finish the second book!
Definitely agree. Vengeful could have been something more but it was too weak. The characters felt like they were there for the sake of being there and not because they are a fully fleshed being.
I agree Vengeful was not necessary but still Schwab's style is so addictive. I was bored the first 2/3 of the book but still couldn't put it down? I was so excited to see the new female characters and liked June and I don't think she did her justice. I LOVED the backstory for Eli. Loved the power development for Victor. The ending felt like it was missing something. Is it obvious that I just finished the book and went on to look for your video to see what you had to say? Shadow and bone is my next read and now idk if I'll buy the whole trilogy or just borrow them from the library and have the first book be lonely forever. Keep up with the awesome videos!
I really love the world of Vengeful and I loved Marcella and June but I was so disappointed in the ending. I can't help but think about how pissed Marcella would be about being nothing but a plot point for Victor and Eli's story.
Soooo I decided something, now I am over with shadow and bone but I am not really into it, so next I will read six of crows, not next...right now. And then I decide if I go on. Thanks for the comments to the book. I am so excited to look why Six of crows is you favorite book.
Why are you so damned cute??!! I almost didn't watch this bc I wanted to avoid spoilers about the Grishaverse. Good thing I blew off having self control LOL
I avoided sharing spoilers tho! unless youre the type that wants to avoid hearing ANYTHING about a book? there's timestamps in the description to jump around too!
Ok I'm really glad I watched it through to the end because you have suitably lowered my expectations for the first book in the Grisha trilogy. I simply cannot abide stupid characters, especially stupid protagonists. There are so many multitudinous ways things can get f'ed without baseline stupidity being the plot driver. So with that in mind, I'll tolerate it in order to get to the good stuff. Plus, that Darkling thirst is no joke! LOL
ugh yea it's a huge turn-off for me even if i end up liking the side characters because to me it's important that the central character is written well
@@withcindy Right! Main characters can make bad decisions for a lot of reasons other than stupidity. Ignorance. Bad advice. Desperation. Flaws like greed, insecurities, selfishness, impatience, spite. My god how much more INTERESTING that would be! But no, we get bumbling by the buckets.
Returning to this video now that I have finally read shadow and bone and I agree with you on every point 😆 though funnily enough I’m looking more forward to the show bc I feel like it will be an improvement
WHY DIDNT I GET A NOTIFICATION UA-cam FAILED ME YOU ALL FAILED ME AND CINDY WHY DONT YOU POST ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA THAT YOU UPLOADED IT WOULD SAVE LIVES
I love how you roast books because everyone else is like "I didn't enjoy it, but I definitely see what other people like about it". You're allowed to hate a book and drag it, please we love that shit
@@withcindy Update. On page 294/356 I must say Alina is doing nothing for me. She seems like a watered down version of Bella Swan to me. Also the Darkling is the only one in the story who is keeping me interested. But I am not sure if I adore him or want to strangle him. I hope the second book picks up.
i literally just finished vengeful a few hours ago and i agree w a lot of your thoughts! i rated it higher because i think the plot carries the story well enough to hide its shortcomings. and about marcella, it was cool that she became PowefulTM but ultimately she was killed by a man so uhhhh where does that leave us
I never clicked so fast on a UA-cam notification. Vengeful... Ooof don’t even get me started on that disappointment of a book 😭 (and Oml I won’t even comment on Shadow and Bome because you already know what I think of it) I personally love the way you criticise books lmao I’ll definitively check that playlist.
readwithcindy and I remember telling you I rated it 4 stars and then giving it 3 stars as well (LOL). I don’t wanna think about it because I know it’s going to turn into a 2 star. Also I love misspelling “Bone” in case you noticed
Can we just talk about how imf love your voice its literally the most iconic thing ever byee. The beginning of this video when you were acting Iike you read all these good books but nOpe😭😭😭
If you want to read a series that has excellent strong female characters I recommend the abhorsen trilogy by Garth Nix. I am not a fan of ya fantasy BUT i just re read this series and was pleasantly surprised that I still loved the series. The two main characters aren't "bad arsed woman " but are just girls that are capable of getting shit done and get shit done. It was refreshing to read.
Stalking you on Goodreads kinda spoiled the intro for me, I knew how cloudy the night sky was and how few stars could be seen that month. I read Shadow and Bone a few days ago and rated it 3 stars too, like it was nice... but I'm still not sure I would have started the second book if it wasn't Leigh Bardugo, ya know? But I had a nice reading month in November (9 books) thanks to the Lunar Chronicles, that was a journey for sure! I hope December has nice surprises in store for you!
I plan on reading Vicious and the Grisha Trilogy soon, so it’s interesting hearing your thoughts before I do that and it sort of let’s me know what to expect so I’m not disappointed 😂 great video!
Love your channel and have been subbed since dck soap gate 😂 love your realness and how youre kind of the antithesis of the stereotypical booktuber. More power to you 👊
this is an old ass video but I need to comment on it. I love Vicious and I thought it was perfect. That ending was PERFECT. I disliked Victor but the story made sense and the ending was just CHEF'S KISS. But then I started second book and I wasn't a fan so I dropped it. And that's because I just felt that first book ended so well that we didn't really need a sequel at all. I actually would've preferred if Vengeful was only about new characters and Victor and Ely never even appeared.
This is completely off topic, but I've been binging your videos and the targeted ad I got before the video was for some sort of Magic Mike show in Orlando. So thanks for that, I guess.
You are SPOT ON about vengeful. I was kinda disappointed about the plot line of this one. I feel like the first one was well left alone with the ending and everything. On the other hand Vengefuls ending mmmm I’m looking forward to more books if there will undoubtably be 😂🤷🏽♀️
i think there will be more books because of how she wrote the ending but i appreciate books that can be both strong as a standalone AND as part of a series
I think you will like another character in grisha trilogy, namely Nikolai... I think he's her best written character from these series. So yeah... glad that King of Scars comes out in January
I love how this video is about November wrap up and is posted in the middle of December Also, I'm reading the Shadow and Bone and OMG its so clichééé, but I'm enjoying so far... things go really fast lol #grishalongathon
hahahaha i love how you wrote "and more" even though it's just one extra book
i appreciate comments that call me out like this
i realize I'm kinda off topic but does anybody know of a good place to watch newly released movies online?
@Ronan Sullivan I would suggest flixzone. You can find it on google =)
@Elliot Clark Yea, I've been watching on flixzone for since march myself :)
@Elliot Clark thanks, I went there and it seems to work =) I appreciate it!
“It’s about the quality” Me: “they were crap, weren’t they?”
you were not wrong
funniest and realest person on booktube. i’m torn because your channel deserves to grow even more and have all the subscribers but at the same time i want you to be my precious obscure gem that not enough people know about damn
i like how you're possessive like the darkling :3
This comment gave me critical damage
Too relatable...
imobsessedwithtoomanyfandomshelpme Lol thanks. Keeping me in line
"What did the woods keep...not my interest" - i literally spat my drink out XD
theres a reason why nobody has talked about this book on booktube LOL
i KNEW that you were gonna spill some major tea on shadow and bone, leigh bardugo had the ultimate writing glo up and honestly GOALS
i wanna glow up like her!!
"I've seen so many people thirsty for him and I just want to join in on the fun" 😂😂😂 that YA tropes breakdown is so accurate tho
i am totally down for guilty pleasures and an open to welcoming the darkling AS LONG AS HE IS NOT problematic!!
Me: The Grisha Trilogy is a guilty pleasure of mine and I like it quite a bit.
You: *Points out the flaws of S&B*
Me: You right sis, you right.
it's okay to have guilty pleasures!
"the biggest character development in this book...is Leigh Bardugo herself" OMG CINDY YOU BURRRNNNN. Loved hearing your thoughts on these 3 books, particularly since I loved Vengeful so much, so it was great to hear your perspective!
The transition from the Grisha Trilogy to Six of Crows was really unbelievable. Six of Crows was a heck of a masterpiece! The Grisha Trilogy was really average for me. Including Alina. Though I did think that she, along with the plot, got better in the second and third book. But, I really loved Nikolai!!! And the other supporting characters from the last two books! That's why I'm really looking forward to King of Scars. And also because Nina's still going to be in it. Would love to hear about your perspective when you finish the trilogy
i got soc without reading the shadow and bone trilogy, should i get the trilogy? i don’t want to esp if it’s not necessary for me to understand soc.. pls help!!
@@xxxxxxuan You don't need to read grisha trilogy to understand Soc. You can easily understand the storyline of soc without reading the grisha trilogy because both are set in different timeline and different eras of grishaworld. I, myself have read Soc duology without reading grisha trilogy and I understand everything even the plot was emerged.
@@mzaman1532 ah i see tysm !
“What DID the woods keep?...Not my interest” LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
i literally remember nothing from this book now, it feels like i read it a lifetime ago lol
readwithcindy I always dig how genuine you are about everything. It’s why I’ll watch your review videos and I don’t even like review videos.
I agree with your thoughts about The Grisha tri...but Nikolai tho
i'm reading the 2nd book right now and YOOOOO finally i'm seeing the payoff
Fucking King of Scars tho.
I didn't understand why Alina even considered Malcolm and Darkles once Nikolai showed up 👀
@@gremlyn1658 M A L C O M?!
@@gremlyn1658 mals full name is MALCOM?
thank god someone else said it!!! when i saw ve schwab tweet that vengeful is about "women reclaiming their powerful from men" i literally said out loud "i feel like you think you wrote a different book than what you actually wrote". vengeful was good but so insanely unfocused, and as someone who has read almost every schwab book, i think the treatment of the female characters in her stories is generally pretty bad.
i mean i GUESS i can see how marcella literally reclaimed (super) POWERS from men but if you're talking in a feminist metaphorical way she definitely did not and turned out to be a flat character/caricature. i think people often think that strong female characters are supposed to be tough, cruel, badass bitches, which is fine, but there needs to be other layers to their character. she didn't have much of a story arc or any emotional development and her character was static throughout. it's a shame, as i think she could've been better if the book just chose what to focus on.
agreed. her arc was basically that she took over the mob for a week, threw a party, and then died. she was an interesting character at the beginning, but overall how her character was handled left me with a bad taste.
Just finished A Darker Shade of Magic and I FEEL THIS COMMENT! Lila felt entirely like a plot solution and basically not a person. She had catchy one-liners but I have yet to understand how she felt about LITERALLY anything in the book.
@Kristyn, so true!! Also the fact that Victoria Schwab said that people who don't like Lila don't like her because she's a woman infinitely pisses me off. No, we don't like her because she was a poorly written character.
@@chelseas1346 I haven't read Shades of Magic 2 & 3, so I'm not sure if Lila is written better or if she stays the same, I guess we'll see! Maybe her new Addie La Rue book will be a sort of female character writing redemption
i know exactly what you mean about the darkling bc i always see so much thirst going on and i’m ALWAYS down for thirst. and that’s such a fun name, like c’mon!!
ALSO GO OFF ON THE LISTENING TO OLD CHARACTERS THING - THEY’VE ALL SEEN SOME SHIT, THEY KNOW 😩
the darkling is pretty much the most obvious name to indicate that someone is an emo edgy boy LOL
"the only reason I requested the book was because the cover was nice."
story of my life amiright?!
"I just wanna join in on the fun" - me trying to read Throne of Glass
i wanna join in with reading ToG too but it's such a long series that im like ehhhh
@@withcindy i'm struggling with the first one, not gonna lie
Monthana Dias same
I've made it to the last one, Empire of Ash, and I feel like sisyphus pushing the boulder up that hill trying to finish it. true suffering...
readwithcindy I mean in its defense the entire plot changes after the third book
I'm currently reading Siege and Storm and oh boy do I miss Crooked Kingdom. I mean, I like it, but it is simply not as good as Six of Crows. So I'm just here adoring Leigh Bardugo for her character development 😂
man i read some crooked kingdom quotes on tumblr a few nights ago and it got me feeling all wistful and nostalgic over the amazing characters and relationships in that series which is a total 180 from the grisha trilogy lmao
So should i read the grisha trilogy first and then crooked kingdom? haha
Well, there might be two reasons why you should do that:
1. CK is spoiler-ish for the The Grisha trilogy
2. You may like CK even more after finishing Grisha because it's more complex and simply better, but that's just my opinion 😅
I totally feel you on the Grisha Trilogy I'm like I can't believe leigha bardugo wrote that series before the epicness that is six of crows and crooked kingdoms. you can really tell how much she's grown as a writer!
I'm super late to this vid, but I just finished the Villains duology last week and I need to let this out:
VICIOUS DID NOT NEED A SEQUEL
To me, everything was pretty well fleshed out already and that ending was already perfect because it was open enough for possibilities in my imagination or maybe for some companion books set in the same universe while still managing to leave me satisfied because the whole revenge arc was sufficiently closed. Still, I was pretty excited for Vengeful because the book's synopsis made it seem like it was gonna bring back the characters I know and love from the first book while at the same time shifting the focus to new female characters who were just as badass and morally gray as Victor and Eli.
But then, I got into Vengeful and I definitely intrigued at first, especially by Marcella's character (mostly because I pictured her as Cate Blanchett in my head and that woman could step on me any day) but halfway through it, all I could think about was "what is the point of this story?" we were following so many storylines with so many characters and yet not one of them managed to be fleshed out enough to be satisfying. I completely agree with you when you said that Marcella and June were nothing but glorified plot devices. I also could care less about Stell. He's literally a useless officer (the only reason he managed to catch Eli was because victor planned it and vice versa). Vengeful would have been better if Schwab just managed to decide if she wanted it to be a sequel or a companion piece.
anyways, amazing video as usual. go get those dollar-dollar bills, queen!
your thoughts on vengeful are just 👌👌👌
i love that you never fall to the hype. not that there's anything wrong with liking a hyped up book, but i feel like some ppl feel they can't talk about aspects of a book they didn't like if it's super hyped. but like.. u just go for it LMAO and i just love the way you critically look at the books you read. thanks for my life cindy.
thank you! i like weighing out pros and cons whenever i read a book, even if i personally loved the book (like i LOVE six of crows but i acknowledge its flaws too) i think you can still enjoy a book but know areas it could improve upon
i am so entranced by the way the ring on your jumper dangles around as you talk.
also RT at leigh bardugo's glow up from the grisha trilogy to the six of crows duology
Vengeful was perfect so good and mind twisting
Edit: I understand it wasn’t your favorite but hey we can’t like every book
I wish Vicious had just been a standalone novel. The ending of the first book was satisfying and left so many possibilities for our imagination but it really did feel like an ending. Unlike with Vengeful...
I'm only 75 pages in so far on Shadow & Bone, and I have a feeling I'm going to hold the same views you do. I'm really kind of neutral on Alina, and I hate how she interacts with the other young women in the novel so far. Hopefully that'll get better, but I have a feeling it won't. Also I must admit the reason I read this was because of Six of Crows and partly to get on board the Thirst Train for the Darkling.
i was ready to get on the thirst train for the darkling cuz i wanna have fun but i'm lukewarm with him so far. we'll see!!
Am I the only one who hates Darkling? He kisses Alina w/o consent, pimped Genya and exploits Zoya
I agree with you that women didn’t reclaim their power in Vengeful. Like in no way did Marcella. Maybe June. But I didn’t feel any female empowerment tinglies at all
yes exactly! i felt like marcella was a caricature of a badass woman and ended up falling flat
readwithcindy definitely! She was so easily defeated
sure, the books may not have been the best, but at least your hair is great
seriously though i love your hair
thank you!! i shave, cut, bleach, and dye everything myself cuz ya girl aint paying money for a salon lmao
readwithcindy diy legend 😩
your username is iconic
For some reason, no matter how much I love V. E. Schwab's actual writing, I can't get into her plots or characters. Makes me feel like the odd one out but I'm glad to know someone else didn't like one of her books!
i think VE Schwab is decent but I notice that I tend to not enjoy her sequels that much (vengeful, a conjuring of light, the sequel to the archived)
honestly same? I keep reading her books and getting exciting about what she says/does, I really like her as a person and I love her writing but there's almost always a point in her novels when I kinda lose my interest. I think it has to do with the way she portrays her characters and especially her female characters - the strong, badass, a little sassy cliché I'm not very fond of -... although I admire her for writing so much in so little time and still deliver quality novels, sometimes I wish she would spend more time on a book and make it more intricate, surprising, and perhaps more characters driven? SORRY THAT WAS LONG.
@@avrilobnubile That's okay I love long comments! I totally agree with your points. All of her books' premises are so interesting but they never follow through for me. I read the Shades of Magic trilogy but wasn't invested, and then read This Savage Song and outright didn't like it. What I really read books for are the characters and hers feel like wasted potential. But gosh, her writing is gorgeous!
So fascinating to hear your thoughts on Vengeful. It was a five star for me but I definitely understand your views, even if I don’t fully agree. 😂 The one thing I think surprised me in reading it this month is that everyone seemed to be all about Marcella (on social media) but I think June is more intriguing specifically because her background and motives were only hinted at. I hope the third - whenever it happens - focuses on her. Great wrap up!
I felt the same way about The Grisha Trilogy. I was skeptical about Six of Crows because of it, but I just started reading Six of Crows and WOW. Talk about a glow up.
her massive improvement gives me hope for MY writing lmao
‘What did the woods keep? Not my interest!’ 😂 Pure gold. I do agree with all of your opinions on Vengeful and Shadow and Bone despite giving the former 5 stars and the latter 4 stars but I am pure trash for Schwab and Bardugo - my 2 favourite writers!
I was so let down by Marcella being reduced to "big bad for (anti)heroes to defeat." The redeeming plot point for me in Vengeful was Victor.
shadow and bone is one of those books that is fun to read in the moment but as soon as you put the book down you forget about it seriously tho LB has improved so much I have no idea how soc and this trilogy was written by the same person ALSO you dragging Alina has me laughing so hard she really is such a fool. hopefully, you enjoy the second and third book more !
CINDY I'm so proud of you, you're on your way to 17k!
I hope December was a better reading month for you x
Loved hearing your opinions about Vengeful. I haven’t gotten to it yet, but from having read the Shades of Magic trilogy, I tend to find that Scwab’s middle books kind of set up the last book. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it’s almost easier for me to wait until the trilogy is complete so I can go straight from book 2 to book 3. As I’m saying this...I’m assuming that it’s going to be a trilogy :O I went to a signing of hers and she said that was her intention. But who knows, maybe I’m full of it 💁🏻♀️
that's a great point and now makes me realize why i tend to not like schwab's sequels/middle books as much! i personally expect every book in a series to be strong enough as a standalone too and don't like it when there's no complete character arc under the guise that it will be finished in the next book. give me some closure!!
I wasn’t paying attention and thought the first review was for shadow & bone until I got to the end of the video LOL
"what did the woods keep... not alina's personality"
1:27 the shade. 🙈💅🏽
i barely even remember what happened in the book now lmao
@@withcindy "thank you, next" lmao.
I did like some parts of “Vengeful”, but I feel like Marcella and June were really one dimensional characters, I didn’t really understand their motivations at all. I would’ve really liked to see more of the dynamic between Eli and Victor and *especially* between Victor and Sydney.
Honestly I think it would’ve been okay for Schwab to ignore Eli altogether, to just let him be off in prison, and to focus mostly on Victor and Sydney, especially if Sydney brought Serena back from the dead.
you know what i found out just recently...on twitter VE Schwab mentioned that she rewrote the entirety of Vengeful from scratch about 6 months before she handed it in. not to talk trash about her or overuse the meme but.......it really shows lol
Bruuuuh. Okay I’ve been falling down the rabbit hole of booktube, since coming to uni it’s been awhile since I’ve really read a book that wasn’t for school. But I used to absolutely devour YA and it’s cool to see everyone’s hot takes on them. And I am so excited to see you talk about Shadow and Bone because I remember reading when it when it had just come out and being so excited but ultimately disappointed. I had heard chatter that Six of Crows was something worth checking out, but I’ve been admittedly dragging my feet. This video really made me curious about the authors supposed glow up and has revitalized my excited for finally starting Six of Crows. Thank you and great video!
I'm glad I watched your review bc I couldn't not finish shadow and bone and I was like there's no way I'm reading six of crows but now I'm gonna read it
I'm suffering through Siege and Storm right now. I don't like Aline, I REALLY don't like Mal. The only enjoyable parts are Nikolai, Genya, and the knowledge that Leigh Bardugo has gotten 1000% better at writing
i feel lukewarm about mal but i know a lot of people hate him so i'm curious to see what happens that has earned all of your wrath lmao
I am reading Vengeful and when I first heard of it I was thinking it was gonna be just about the effects of what happened at the end of Vicious. I'm still gonna read it, but I understand where the whole "It's muddled" thing comes from. I was thrown through a loop when we started out with someone who we hadn't met. I hope I like it, but I've already gotten the feeling that the writing isn't as passionate as Vicious was. I don't know if that makes sense. I was sucked into Vicious and I haven't been sucked into Vengeful which... sucks.
Watching your wrap ups aren’t overwhelming, because usually other booktubers read a crap ton of books and it makes me feel like I should be doing more reading. But I’m a slow reader 😬 so this is refreshing.
i wanted to read the Grisha trilogy, really. but soc just kicked my standards up a million notch. i wished i started the trilogy first.
also, youre the only one i know who made wrap ups hilarious. always loving your intros. xo
your review of crooked kingdom was amazing. but yes i would advise you to wait a while before starting the grisha trilogy, because the difference in quality will be too much lol
Thank you for the summary of which books not to waste my time on.
haha take my opinions with a grain of salt tho, a lot of ppl liked vengeful!
I can't believe you took us on the merry-go-round. I was expecting you to say like 12 and then you said 3 and I burst out laughing which just aggravated my coughing (I have a cold). So um, yeah, if I choke to death mid-typing this, know that I died happy. ghjghjghjghj. I had to fastforward through your vengeful talk cuz I'm trying to avoid all talk about it until I've read it. I've been doing the same for everything Laini Taylor and ADSOM series. Some series I want to walk into, blind. "She just lacked so much common sense" Fhjhjghjghjg. That was so me screaming at Alina through the entire book... *sigh* That girl... I can't believe you got through the entire wrap-up without talking about Mal........
i hope you recover from your cold soon!! and yea alina is so damn dumb lol
The first thirty seconds of this fucking video has me gone can we TALK about what a queen cindy is
Damn Cindy I remember when you were at 2k, now you’re at 14k 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
thank you jaleen
I totally love ur review of Shadow and Bones- I was thinking the same thing!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
So I’ve finished Shadow and Bone and... idk like... OMG I AM SO INTO IT. Like, in the middle something happened (I think it was when Mal finds Alina in the woods, idk) and I had to stop reading it and I was so happy for Alina’s sake that now she’s was gonna be ok... I nearly cried... in that time I felt that the story got into me. Now when I listen to a playlist made for the book I feel SO EMOTIONAL thinking about the whole thing... the time Mal and Alina spent suffering together URGH THEY ARE SO CUTE.
In the end of the ebook I was reading, it had a “bonus” part with part of the story being told from Genya point of view and it was A THING... Like... now I feel emotional when it comes to the relationship of Alina and her, because I like her but she’s kinda in the villain side... so.. idk... I LIKE HER and I don’t want her to feel sad (like in the end of the book when she has her eyes full with tears 😭 leaving Alina...)
I know the book has some flaws, and clichés, but still made me FEEL a lot of FEELS 😂, so I gave 4 stars but I know it deserves 3... I’m a little overwhelmed with the story so idk.
I’m kinda in the side of hating the Darkling btw, but he’s a interesting character 👌🏻
i like genya too!! honestly if u really enjoyed the book then that's fantastic, it's ok if it ur rating is not what the book "deserves", what matters is that u enjoy it and it impacts u
readwithcindy urgh you’re such a good person ✨❤️
I actually liked Vengeful a lot more than Vicious. Eli was never a good villain to me, and Serena was the one I was invested in in Vicious. In Vengeful, Marcella took that spot, and her quirky minion squad made it more fun.
Even tho it was an average month for you, I still loved this wrap up because sharing your thoughts is important and I always value that regardless of how many books one has read!! And I know everyone says this, but our humor is amazing AS ALWAYS xoxox ❤️👌🏻
I agree with a lot of the points you raised about Vengeful, and coincidentally I also rated it as one star lower than I did Vicious as a result.
- Marcella was a total waste in my opinion. She was clearly built as you said, as a catalyst to bring Eli and Victor together for the climax. Her own story started to develop and we got a tiny bit of backstory for her but then it just sort of ended without her changing or learning anything before the end of her arc.
- I disagree with you about June, but she could have been handled better. It seemed pretty clear to me that there is more going on with June than we are being given in this book and it's being set up for the third installment, the same is true of Stell's second in command.
- Stell was pretty useless to be honest. He could have become a Nick Fury type but he was just a lame duck.
- I think the stuff we got with Victor and Eli was good but it would have been more interesting if we got to see a more covert cat and mouse game between them. Eli could catch on to Victor really early on and have to try to hinder his progress whilst keeping it secret from Stell and EON, and Victor could realise what's going on and try to find a way to take Eli out whilst dodging EON and dealing with his other stuff.
- I enjoyed the time-hopping stuff but I'm a sucker for a good ticking clock device and Schwab delivered on that for me.
Yea there's def setup for June in the 3rd book but I felt like her role in the 2nd book was pointless (I judge each book in a series on its own so I personally don't like reading books that are just there as filler between the 1st and 3rd book - this was my POV on her darker shade of magic series as well). Stell was boring and useless and just a fill-in character lol. I personally don't think we got enough of Victor and Eli (and that's coming from me who doesn't even care that much for them in the first place) and you're right that there should have been more of a cat and mouse game between them rather than have it be buildup for like 80% of the book. We only got ONE scene between them where they actually saw each other and communicated; the rest of the time, they were separated, which seems kind of a shame for readers who are invested in Victor and Eli and want more interactions beyond their mind games. I really enjoyed the time-hopping format in the 1st book but found it hard to follow in the 2nd book, maybe because there were too many characters and storylines this time. And totally agree about Marcella being such a waste! I really do feel like if the book focused on Marcella VS June with a new rivalry we could've enjoyed deeper character development for these ladies.
"What did the woods keep?- not my interest!" - HAAAAAA!!!
Also, I'm with you on skipping the Shadow and Bone trilogy and just going straight in with Six of Crows (well... when I actually get around to it!)
Amazing wrap up, as always! 💙💙💙
the relationship between victor and eli in vengeful, is that the hatred of victor to eli has lose it spark, since it has been five years and he was dying, again and again.
oh no, i should've read six of crows first, you reading six of crows before shadow and bone and your reasons is exactly whats happening to me, oh no
"we're just keeping in line with the brand." dead!
it's true, my average rating is 3 stars lol
Well Ben Barnes makes it so easy to thirst over the Darkling
thank u cindy for feeding us with your videos
maybe pick up short/lighter books?
You're definitely my favourite book tuber! You don't give a fuck to speak your mind and I love it!
You summed up how I felt about What The Woods Keep. Once I knew what was going to happen I wanted to finish it as soon as possible. I felt like I was reading a fan fiction...
Can I just say that I love your videos, like I'm sitting here listening to you ramble about books I have no interest in and I am having the time of my life? You could make a 30-minute long video talking what shampoo you use and I would be like "wow such a great entertaining video". Love your sass and your sense of humor
thanks so much! i sometimes feel like my wrapups are kinda boring (especially since most of the time i don't care much for the books i've read lol) but it's encouraging to hear that you still find entertainment in them anyway :) what books ARE you interested in?
@@withcindy I like fantasy a lot but I am not so keen on YA (I feel too old for all that shit even tho I am only 21). Actually, I find the books you like, for example Six of Crows, very intriguing but I am just a bad reader and I know I won't read them.
I have never laughed this much during a wrapup. Cindy, ily
glad u enjoyed!!
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honestly my disappointment started the moment serena died in vicious like wtf she was the character I was most interested about and her character was the least explored for such a complex looking character, so when I saw the second book would introduce other two female characters with victor and eli again I just knew it I would be left wanting more from the girls again
I've been studying the whole night watching random videos on the background and at some point UA-cam started to show me books related videos. I've seen so many videos from so many channels for the last like 12 hours but you're the first booktuber I've subscribed to. You're funny and original, already love your channel although I watched maybe just 4 or 5 videos of yours. Keep on.
wow thank you youtube algorithm!!
I haven’t actually seen any reviews of Vengeful because I’ve been avoiding them until I’ve read it, so it’s interesting to hear some negative opinions about it and I’ll definitely keep this in mind when I finally get to it!
Huh, I'm a little nervous about reading Vengeful now. But somehow after your review of Shadow and Bone I'm even more excited to start it tomorrow! Love you and your reviews so much 💜💜
a LOT of people really enjoyed vengeful so you might too!
when i finished vengeful, the rating on goodreads was so high and i thought i was the only one who didn't really like it lol. marcella and victor literally murder so many people i just stopped giving a shit abt people dying in the story, which is Not Good if you're trying to build up tension and stakes for the climax
LMAO I KNOW RIGHT PEOPLE WERE DYING LIKE EVERY PAGE I WAS LIKE CHILL
XDDD that beginning killed me. Slay with those three books, girl!
I also thought shadow and bone was kinda generic but I also felt like I read it at the right time because I still really enjoyed it! It gave me kind of a nostalgic feel by reminding me about other stories. Also I have no feelings toward the darkling even after finishing the trilogy. I just don't get the thirst at all. The thirst for Nikolai however... can't wait for you to finish the second book!
i am digging nikolai so far!!
Definitely agree. Vengeful could have been something more but it was too weak. The characters felt like they were there for the sake of being there and not because they are a fully fleshed being.
I agree Vengeful was not necessary but still Schwab's style is so addictive. I was bored the first 2/3 of the book but still couldn't put it down?
I was so excited to see the new female characters and liked June and I don't think she did her justice. I LOVED the backstory for Eli. Loved the power development for Victor. The ending felt like it was missing something. Is it obvious that I just finished the book and went on to look for your video to see what you had to say?
Shadow and bone is my next read and now idk if I'll buy the whole trilogy or just borrow them from the library and have the first book be lonely forever.
Keep up with the awesome videos!
i say stick to library unless you end up liking the series a lot!
God I love to see ya reviewed like actual books 💖
glad you enjoyed!
I really love the world of Vengeful and I loved Marcella and June but I was so disappointed in the ending. I can't help but think about how pissed Marcella would be about being nothing but a plot point for Victor and Eli's story.
right?! i wish she had been her own main character
Soooo I decided something, now I am over with shadow and bone but I am not really into it, so next I will read six of crows, not next...right now. And then I decide if I go on. Thanks for the comments to the book. I am so excited to look why Six of crows is you favorite book.
Why are you so damned cute??!! I almost didn't watch this bc I wanted to avoid spoilers about the Grishaverse. Good thing I blew off having self control LOL
I avoided sharing spoilers tho! unless youre the type that wants to avoid hearing ANYTHING about a book? there's timestamps in the description to jump around too!
@@withcindy
Ahhhh thanks Sweety!
Ok I'm really glad I watched it through to the end because you have suitably lowered my expectations for the first book in the Grisha trilogy. I simply cannot abide stupid characters, especially stupid protagonists. There are so many multitudinous ways things can get f'ed without baseline stupidity being the plot driver. So with that in mind, I'll tolerate it in order to get to the good stuff.
Plus, that Darkling thirst is no joke! LOL
ugh yea it's a huge turn-off for me even if i end up liking the side characters because to me it's important that the central character is written well
@@withcindy
Right! Main characters can make bad decisions for a lot of reasons other than stupidity. Ignorance. Bad advice. Desperation. Flaws like greed, insecurities, selfishness, impatience, spite. My god how much more INTERESTING that would be! But no, we get bumbling by the buckets.
I laughed so much at the "so many people are so thirsty over him" 😂😂😂 I'm excited to hear your thoughts on the Darkling after you finish the trilogy!!
im halfway thru the 2nd book right now and he's barely been in it!! WHERE IS HE
readwithcindy hahaha just you wait
Returning to this video now that I have finally read shadow and bone and I agree with you on every point 😆 though funnily enough I’m looking more forward to the show bc I feel like it will be an improvement
WHY DIDNT I GET A NOTIFICATION UA-cam FAILED ME YOU ALL FAILED ME AND CINDY WHY DONT YOU POST ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA THAT YOU UPLOADED IT WOULD SAVE LIVES
self promos make me feel awk so i never mention shit on social media LOL
I love the playlist and I see you did one for Evelyn Hugo too. Very cool! Do more of these!
I love how you roast books because everyone else is like "I didn't enjoy it, but I definitely see what other people like about it". You're allowed to hate a book and drag it, please we love that shit
I really enjoy your blunt reviews. Also I am halfway done with Shadow and Bone. I will be doing the grishaathon with you.
yay cant wait to hear ur thoughts!
@@withcindy Update. On page 294/356 I must say Alina is doing nothing for me. She seems like a watered down version of Bella Swan to me. Also the Darkling is the only one in the story who is keeping me interested. But I am not sure if I adore him or want to strangle him. I hope the second book picks up.
"watered down version of bella swan" SO TRUE except she will randomly make snarky comments so she can seem like she has a personality lmao
i literally just finished vengeful a few hours ago and i agree w a lot of your thoughts! i rated it higher because i think the plot carries the story well enough to hide its shortcomings. and about marcella, it was cool that she became PowefulTM but ultimately she was killed by a man so uhhhh where does that leave us
yea i would've been fine with her ending if her character arc had been developed better and then maybe her ending would've been more impactful!
After watching this, I’m DNFing Vengeful! Ty for saving my time😆
Loved the in-depth crashing of Shadow and Bone - - - soooo agreeeee
i'm reading the 2nd book now and hoping it gets better BUUUT we'll see lol
readwithcindy 2nd is my least fave so far lol 😂
I never clicked so fast on a UA-cam notification. Vengeful... Ooof don’t even get me started on that disappointment of a book 😭 (and Oml I won’t even comment on Shadow and Bome because you already know what I think of it) I personally love the way you criticise books lmao I’ll definitively check that playlist.
yeah i remember i told u i would rate it 4 stars but after writing my review on goodreads i feel like 3 is more accurate for me lolol
readwithcindy and I remember telling you I rated it 4 stars and then giving it 3 stars as well (LOL). I don’t wanna think about it because I know it’s going to turn into a 2 star. Also I love misspelling “Bone” in case you noticed
Can we just talk about how imf love your voice its literally the most iconic thing ever byee. The beginning of this video when you were acting Iike you read all these good books but nOpe😭😭😭
Also the way you say dumb bitch is so fucking rhythmic that I hear that shit in my head whenever I or someone else does something dumb as fuck lmao
If you want to read a series that has excellent strong female characters I recommend the abhorsen trilogy by Garth Nix. I am not a fan of ya fantasy BUT i just re read this series and was pleasantly surprised that I still loved the series. The two main characters aren't "bad arsed woman " but are just girls that are capable of getting shit done and get shit done. It was refreshing to read.
Thank you for being you, all day err day.
Stalking you on Goodreads kinda spoiled the intro for me, I knew how cloudy the night sky was and how few stars could be seen that month.
I read Shadow and Bone a few days ago and rated it 3 stars too, like it was nice... but I'm still not sure I would have started the second book if it wasn't Leigh Bardugo, ya know?
But I had a nice reading month in November (9 books) thanks to the Lunar Chronicles, that was a journey for sure!
I hope December has nice surprises in store for you!
totally agree; if i hadn't read SoC first i wouldn't bother reading the rest of the grisha trilogy!
I plan on reading Vicious and the Grisha Trilogy soon, so it’s interesting hearing your thoughts before I do that and it sort of let’s me know what to expect so I’m not disappointed 😂 great video!
keep ur expectations low so u can either 1) not be disappointed or 2) be pleasantly surprised!
Exactly! I try to do that with everything 😅
Love your channel and have been subbed since dck soap gate 😂 love your realness and how youre kind of the antithesis of the stereotypical booktuber. More power to you 👊
this is an old ass video but I need to comment on it. I love Vicious and I thought it was perfect. That ending was PERFECT. I disliked Victor but the story made sense and the ending was just CHEF'S KISS. But then I started second book and I wasn't a fan so I dropped it. And that's because I just felt that first book ended so well that we didn't really need a sequel at all. I actually would've preferred if Vengeful was only about new characters and Victor and Ely never even appeared.
"But y'know sometimes it's just fun being thirsty" 😂
This is completely off topic, but I've been binging your videos and the targeted ad I got before the video was for some sort of Magic Mike show in Orlando. So thanks for that, I guess.
You are SPOT ON about vengeful. I was kinda disappointed about the plot line of this one. I feel like the first one was well left alone with the ending and everything. On the other hand Vengefuls ending mmmm I’m looking forward to more books if there will undoubtably be 😂🤷🏽♀️
i think there will be more books because of how she wrote the ending but i appreciate books that can be both strong as a standalone AND as part of a series
I think you will like another character in grisha trilogy, namely Nikolai... I think he's her best written character from these series. So yeah... glad that King of Scars comes out in January
the only characters i like so far are genya and nikolai! oh and sturmhond ;)
I love how this video is about November wrap up and is posted in the middle of December
Also, I'm reading the Shadow and Bone and OMG its so clichééé, but I'm enjoying so far... things go really fast lol #grishalongathon
‘What’s new?’ At least your being consistent
I completely agree with you about shadow and bone it wad easy to read but was lacking something but im still really excited to read six of crows
six of crows is so much better!! it's like a total 180
@@withcindy yeah the premise and plot and characters seem a lot more interesting im planing on reading it really soon😊