Why didn't the USA also Scramble Africa? (Short Animated Documentary)

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  • The USA, despite being a great power, didn't carve up Africa. So why not?
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  • @stevenchoza6391
    @stevenchoza6391 Рік тому +10533

    To be fair about Mexico being occupied by an Austrian, America was kind of busy at that moment fighting itself.

    • @andrewklang809
      @andrewklang809 Рік тому +2430

      And once the Civil War was done, and Maximilian still refused to leave, the funniest thing happened. A whole bunch of Union weaponry, which weren't needed anymore, just found its way to southern Texas. And then....just disappeared. No one knows why.
      On an unrelated note, the Mexican Republicans suddenly were very well-equipped and made short work of the Imperial Army. History is full of odd co-incidences.

    • @stevenchoza6391
      @stevenchoza6391 Рік тому

      @@andrewklang809
      Not to mention those scary Union troops who were conveniently at the border at the time.

    • @biggibbs4678
      @biggibbs4678 Рік тому

      @@andrewklang809 his wife knew he was fucked and was super depressed about it. She went to beg to the pope to do something and started crying, refusing to leave. He let her sleep in the vadican.

    • @tableprinterdoor
      @tableprinterdoor Рік тому +238

      what other country was occupied by an Austrian and how well did that go?

    • @enrico.beltrao
      @enrico.beltrao Рік тому +268

      Also the Brits got that chunk out of Venezuelan Guyana through international arbitration and the Falklands matter was really about restablishing control not actually taking over anything. I suppose you can violate the Monroe doctrine at will if you get really technical or outright sneaky about it

  • @ivansych8956
    @ivansych8956 Рік тому +1542

    I like how US ''potential claims'' in Africa are drawn in a shape of some US states.

    • @u2beuser714
      @u2beuser714 Рік тому +84

      Damn i knew that algeria is florida in disguise

    • @derekchristenson5711
      @derekchristenson5711 Рік тому +11

      @@u2beuser714 "I see things; I see them with my eyes! / I see things; they're often in disguise!"

    • @jeffbenton6183
      @jeffbenton6183 Рік тому +37

      Interestingly enough, the one shaped like Texas actually follows the claimed borders of the Republic of Texas. That kind of seems like a fun Easter-egg-within-an-Easter-egg of sorts.

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 Рік тому +13

      American East Africa = Rhode Island & Providence
      Then there’s an idealist named Cecil Rhodes whose surname was once a nation’s previous colonial name
      Therefore, this is American Rhodesia

    • @Rogue_Centurion
      @Rogue_Centurion Рік тому +3

      @@u2beuser714 also that Sudan was Virginia secretly

  • @YouTube
    @YouTube Рік тому +3786

    amazingly fascinating history bites 👍

  • @Thatguy13234
    @Thatguy13234 Рік тому +307

    Liberia: I’m declaring independence
    USA: I don’t even know who you are

  • @ihavetowait90daystochangem67
    @ihavetowait90daystochangem67 Рік тому +3421

    I unironically love thumbnail. Instead of drawing parts of Africa with an American flag, he just put US States with a flag on Top of Africa like Texas and Florida

    • @unscenegamers
      @unscenegamers Рік тому +215

      Floridian Algiers is my favorite.

    • @BigFatWow
      @BigFatWow Рік тому +168

      Even better are the largest states depicted being Delaware and Rhode Island.

    • @windykingdom6153
      @windykingdom6153 Рік тому +33

      @@unscenegamers Texan Lagos for me

    • @HoennMaster
      @HoennMaster Рік тому +20

      I'm glad I'm not the only one loving this thumbnail.

    • @ZatzoZimmerman
      @ZatzoZimmerman Рік тому +2

      I just said that 😔

  • @expandedhistory
    @expandedhistory Рік тому +3594

    If you look at the long run, the United States focusing on its expansion into territories in North America rather then Africa such as Europe did, the United States won in the long run. The vast untouched resources the United States still has in its land is astonishing. Not to mention it still holds majority of its original territories unlike Europe in Africa.

    • @alastairward2774
      @alastairward2774 Рік тому +653

      Like a game of Civilization, they had the best starting location and didn't expand quickly abroad.

    • @Jin-Ro
      @Jin-Ro Рік тому +447

      To be fair the USA is 5 minutes old. Lets come back to this thread in ~1,500 years before making any declarations.

    • @MrSiddharthaSaha
      @MrSiddharthaSaha Рік тому +805

      @@Jin-Ro technically, Germany and Italy are younger than the USA.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped Рік тому +479

      @@MrSiddharthaSaha Yeah, a lotta people forget that Italy was an array of small nationstates and citystates from the fall of Rome through until the Napoleonic era.

    • @TheMasterOfCornedy
      @TheMasterOfCornedy Рік тому +134

      @@MrSiddharthaSaha technicality doesnt matter here

  • @LitD
    @LitD Рік тому +532

    Interesting facts: Liberia has the dubious honour of being one of the last countries with slavery in it, it wasn't until the 1930's that the League of Nations got involved. They wanted to turn the country into a mandate with Poland being seen as the preferred country to oversee it, mostly because they were the Liberians preffered option as they viewed the Poles as the least likely to try and annex Liberia.
    Nothing came of it because the US had a hissy fit about foreign investments in their territories and Poland was more concerned about their neighbours being warmongers.

    • @hadracks
      @hadracks Рік тому +50

      There are still plenty of countries with slavery now. It is de facto legal in many countries with around 40 million current slaves and a lot more with very limited freedoms.
      Interesting fact though, given Liberia's history.

    • @raptorfromthe6ix833
      @raptorfromthe6ix833 Рік тому +20

      nah the last country with slavery was mauritania....in 1981

    • @boaoftheboaians
      @boaoftheboaians Рік тому +37

      @@raptorfromthe6ix833 he said "one of the last countries", not "THE last country"

    • @bobjones8949
      @bobjones8949 Рік тому +3

      What slavery in Liberia are you talking about? There's a lot of revisionist history going on with these subjects.

    • @user-nm3nb4oj5d
      @user-nm3nb4oj5d 11 місяців тому

      Poland was a huge warmonger themselves. Started war with Soviet Union in the 1920’s, took land of Czechoslowakia in the 30’s and refused to negotiate any reasonable solution to the Corridor issue with Germany while mistreating ethnic Germans who found themselves in this Western puppet state.

  • @NovikNikolovic
    @NovikNikolovic Рік тому +94

    "and thus they had no desires to squabble over pieces of a third continent."
    Philippines: 😐

    • @silverwurm
      @silverwurm Місяць тому +5

      Key phrase “pieces of”

    • @dfdf-rj8jr
      @dfdf-rj8jr 17 днів тому +1

      the us gave up philippines edit

    • @NovikNikolovic
      @NovikNikolovic 17 днів тому +2

      @@dfdf-rj8jr doesn't change the fact that we still squabbled over a 3rd continent

    • @dfdf-rj8jr
      @dfdf-rj8jr 17 днів тому +3

      @@NovikNikolovic We didn't "squabble" over anything. We took it, lost it, took it, and gave it back. There were very few arguments.
      You're just trying to make the US look colonialist, when it isn't.

    • @NovikNikolovic
      @NovikNikolovic 17 днів тому +4

      @@dfdf-rj8jr it literally is though. If taking land that doesn't belong to you ISN'T colonialist, then what is, genius?

  • @volodask
    @volodask Рік тому +1571

    A quick note about Congo being free for all countries to trade with. It was actually a ruse used by Leopold II to get international backing for his administration of Congo. The moment he had enough troops there to defend it, well, the free for all part was quickly forgotten and the terrible looting and mass murder began.

    • @sixthcairn
      @sixthcairn Рік тому +100

      Leopold II was such a swell guy.

    • @kjellvanderpoten3141
      @kjellvanderpoten3141 Рік тому +105

      as i remember it the free trade part was held up under leo, but ended when belgium seized the colony (before that it was leo's private property (also when most atrocities happened)) the great powers actually wanted to take it away from belgium when they ended the free trade, and belgium immediately cozied up to the germans to get the great powers to fight each other (that didn't backfire at all)

    • @lucasfernandes0002
      @lucasfernandes0002 Рік тому

      The great Leopold II, easily the worst man to ever live, Hitler is a kid throwing a tantrum next to him

    • @kjellvanderpoten3141
      @kjellvanderpoten3141 Рік тому +8

      @@lucasfernandes0002 woah, intentionally trying to eradicate multiple peoples from the earth shouldn't be taken so lightly

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Рік тому +35

      Companies still could do whatever they wanted though, as long as Leopold 2 got a piece of the profits. Like a mob boss
      He never personally set foot in the Congo. It was run by companies and their mercenaries.

  • @TheLocalLt
    @TheLocalLt Рік тому +4360

    As you touched on, Liberia was originally a series of American colonies under company rule and run by freedmen, most of which merged into the Colony of Liberia from 1838 until it declared independence in 1847, although America didn’t officially recognize independence until 1862.
    Liberia subsequently became an American client in the region all through the Scramble and World Wars, before the Americo-Liberian freedmen started waging brutal wars and fell out of favor in Washington in the second half of the 20th century.
    Still the capital today remains Monrovia, named after James Monroe, and its political system is at least nominally based off America’s (although in reality it’s been made ineffective at many points by corruption and despotism).
    Edit: for all those replying “just like the American government”, please understand that these are not just issues that needs to be worked on like in America, the situation in Liberia is really quite bad, the government lurches between periods of outright dictatorship and periods of struggle to even maintain order. Comparison to a rich and democratic country like America severely trivializes the depth of the Liberian situation.

    • @abbyalphonse499
      @abbyalphonse499 Рік тому +251

      Monrovia? How come it wasn't called Bissonetia?

    • @duskpede5146
      @duskpede5146 Рік тому +22

      he litterally says this in the video

    • @rwboa22
      @rwboa22 Рік тому +151

      And Liberia today is under the control of the indigenous Africans living within its borders today, as Americo-Liberians practically loss their power through the different conflicts and civil wars waged there.

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 Рік тому +357

      Also ironic fact: the black freedmen ended up enslaving a lot of the original natives in Liberia.

    • @glif1360
      @glif1360 Рік тому +16

      Notably, relationships with Liberia are still good enough for it to be invited to Ramstein.

  • @mbrennan459
    @mbrennan459 Рік тому +255

    Morocco was one of the first countries to officially recognize the newly independent USA. At the beginning of the 20th century Germany realized that in the Scramble for Africa, not many good spots were left. The Germans began showing interest in Morocco shortly after Great Britain and France had secretly agreed to divide Egypt and Morocco among themselves. Germany vowed to protect Moroccan independence. This precipitated the First Moroccan Crisis.
    Morocco realized the position it was in. They applied for statehood in the USA based on their early relationship with the USA. The USA not wishing involvement in Africa, called the Algeciras Conference to negotiate a settlement. This ended the first Moroccan Crisis unfortunately Germany would precipitate the Second Moroccan Crisis five years later.

    • @anthonyprestipino8906
      @anthonyprestipino8906 Рік тому +2

      O

    • @isaacsechslingloff8008
      @isaacsechslingloff8008 Рік тому

      @@anthonyprestipino8906 The US statehood thing seems like fake news. I can't verify this information anywhere.

    • @genghiskhan5701
      @genghiskhan5701 Рік тому

      Man everyone is trying to take over my country. TIme to apply for US Statehood

    • @hases2772
      @hases2772 Рік тому +99

      the alt history take- what if morroco became a U.S state

    • @Liam-iv7wk
      @Liam-iv7wk Рік тому +14

      That would actually be pretty cool. It would be a totally improbable event but fascinating nevertheless

  • @joeshar.
    @joeshar. Рік тому +23

    0:13 Rules
    1) Be cool guys
    2) Take as much as you can
    3) Try not to go to war unless you really want to or could do with the practice
    4) A bunch of powerful countries will get nothing
    5) Belgium is also here for some reason

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Рік тому +1

      Belgium was there, and also not there.
      It was confusing.

  • @Mr_M_History
    @Mr_M_History Рік тому +3161

    HistoryMatters is a truly great history channel because it answers the negative questions as well as the positive ones!

    • @brandoncampanaro7571
      @brandoncampanaro7571 Рік тому +18

      History give us context to the world we live in, everything we use and believe and have is based in our history and to not know or understand our history is choosing to be ignorant to the problems we face today

    • @WayneNaude670
      @WayneNaude670 Рік тому +10

      i love the animated characters and their expressions

    • @tommiddlefinger6188
      @tommiddlefinger6188 Рік тому

      If you live in Nevada, do NOT v o t e for Chuck Short. He is running ads on this channnel but he is a JERRK. We don't need more of the diversty Commmunst type Democrts.

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari Рік тому +4

      What's the difference between a negative and positive question?

    • @adityas9377
      @adityas9377 Рік тому +20

      @@Jotari “Why did?” vs “Why didn’t?”

  • @knives4cash
    @knives4cash Рік тому +521

    The Limbo joke caught me off guard. That was hilarious.

  • @nrobnas
    @nrobnas Рік тому +17

    I love pausing the videos to read whatever lists are shown. Always a great read! "#3: Try not to go to war unless you really need to or could do with the practice."

    • @nrobnas
      @nrobnas Рік тому +1

      Also, the shot of TR at 1:36 peaking from behind the bush had me legit laughing out loud

    • @alogahjames9490
      @alogahjames9490 Рік тому +1

      Same here, he's really talented.

  • @BrammBass
    @BrammBass Рік тому +57

    To answer your question: Yes, I did enjoy this episode. Thanks for the amazing content you have been producing for all those years!

  • @lkpinette
    @lkpinette Рік тому +450

    Something interesting, I discovered years ago from an old newspaper article is that a proposal was mooted at Versailles by one of the European powers (Britain, I think) for the United States to take over Germany's African colonies. I couldn't find much additional information, but it's clear that it was not a priority for Wilson or probably anyone in the US, and was likely never seriously pursued.
    Woodrow Wilson did pursue a mandate over Armenia, and that was agreed to in principle, but was rejected by the US Senate.

    • @robertrichard6107
      @robertrichard6107 Рік тому +13

      There was a former U.S. Admiral that became Armenian Ambassador that had eyes on their oil.

    • @readingking1421
      @readingking1421 Рік тому +17

      Oh that is super interesting! Do you by any chance still have the source for that? Sounds like a great Alternate History scenario

    • @fasinfata
      @fasinfata Рік тому +31

      Too bad for Armenia, that could have increase the probabilities of keep the Wilsonian Armenia borders.

    • @SiPakRubah
      @SiPakRubah Рік тому +3

      Can I know more about this, I'm curious since there's a chance that they could took over Namibia and some other Eastern part of Africa, but instead they only took the ones on the Pacific Island parts only, if I'm not mistaken
      Also why did they wanted Armenia? I imagine that the Cold War might started earlier from here, and see some weird version of WW2

    • @Liam-iv7wk
      @Liam-iv7wk Рік тому +5

      Wow that's some serious border gore.

  • @SpaceMonkeyBoi
    @SpaceMonkeyBoi Рік тому +662

    It's always really weird to see countries willingly turn down the opportunity to get territory

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Рік тому

      Not really. It's like getting a mansion through impulse buying in one suburb just because your neighbors are busy gobbling up as many houses as available. At first, it's neat you have a bigger house with more rooms than you can use. Slowly, you come to realize this isn't going too well: the mansion is sucking up more money just keeping it functional while generating little to no income to defray the costs and you are preoccupied keeping all those rooms secure from thieves. That is what running an empire in the 19th Century really is: most of the colonies are economically barren and those who get rich in these places are too few to defray the massive costs in administration and defense of these places...

    • @franzjoseph1837
      @franzjoseph1837 Рік тому +100

      I wish they would do that more often

    • @alexjv1370
      @alexjv1370 Рік тому +255

      @@franzjoseph1837 The funniest example would be how Denmark refused to take land but everyone else was trying to force them to take it. 💀

    • @franzjoseph1837
      @franzjoseph1837 Рік тому +9

      @@alexjv1370 true lolo

    • @kp782
      @kp782 Рік тому +52

      there were people already living there. No need to take their land away

  • @jwil4286
    @jwil4286 Рік тому +75

    Video ideas:
    1. Why didn’t Sweden take part in the Schleswig wars?
    2. What did Aaron Burr do in exile (technically not exile, but he did kinda vanish after his duel)?

    • @r.o.b8728
      @r.o.b8728 Рік тому

      there is no way norway would have let sweden join the schleswig wars without revolting

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Рік тому

      The Swedes did take part in the first one to some extent.

    • @davidarnold2456
      @davidarnold2456 Рік тому

      The Burr thing is a good story look up “United States v. Aaron Burr”

  • @captaindouchebag1703
    @captaindouchebag1703 Рік тому +58

    I love how this channel gives
    you the basics of complex historical themes in 3 to 10 minute long videos that feature dry British humour and colourful animations. Well done, History matters. You nailed it!

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc Рік тому +301

    "Americans felt like they already had hegemony over two continents, and thus they had no desire to squabble over pieces of a third."
    The Pacific, on the other hand... *that's* free real estate.

    • @blackchrysler
      @blackchrysler Рік тому +36

      USA in 20th and 21st Century: The world is my home

    • @derekchristenson5711
      @derekchristenson5711 Рік тому +55

      @@blackchrysler Judging by the attitudes of some of the people who were alive at the time, it was at least partially a result of the two world wars showing that European and the Japanese empires couldn't be trusted to be the Great Powers without starting all sorts of wars of conquest, and that, as they would eventually pull us into a third world war if left alone, we may as well just try to be the "adults in the world's room" so to speak. Results were.... mixed.

    • @TaftisBack
      @TaftisBack Рік тому +28

      @@derekchristenson5711 that and capitalism. China was seen as a close economic ally until they embraced communism, and in China itself America was seen as immensely better than the Europeans with whom they had bad blood, as America offered large business ventures without the desire to interfere with their internal politics. "Do business with US and you can do business as you wish."

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 Рік тому +15

      Actually, the expansion into the Pacific was viewed as VERY controversial by some Americans. One prominent Congressman believed snatching away colonies from Spain in 1898 there was absolutely immoral (and against America's founding principles), after all the war had been mostly about Cuba and perhaps the greater Caribbean (like Puerto Rico). President McKinley and others had their way though and Spanish possessions like Guam and the Philippines were handed over, pretty much ending the Spanish Empire apart from Africa's Equatorial Guinea. One has to wonder how much history was changed by our war with them, as theoretically Spain might have been forced to fight the Japanese in World War II (and might they have also joined World War I if this disaster for them didn't happen).

    • @silencemeviolateme6076
      @silencemeviolateme6076 Рік тому +1

      @@blackchrysler Yep, because the world got into two wars the us had to help end.

  • @slipper1889
    @slipper1889 Рік тому +41

    Loved that Limbo reference.

  • @FGH9G
    @FGH9G Рік тому +9

    Love the concise and straight to the point videos man! Keep it up!
    And also the Limbo joke was Gold!

  • @W3Slots
    @W3Slots Рік тому +7

    "Oil yo!" As an Animator, I'm loving the animations. Great information!

  • @jikihendrik4281
    @jikihendrik4281 Рік тому +27

    1:51
    Totally love the Limbo reference

  • @goldennugget2562
    @goldennugget2562 Рік тому +27

    "Sometimes you gotta crack some Africa's to make an omelette"
    -Berlin Conference

    • @gargoyles9999
      @gargoyles9999 Рік тому +1

      Makin the Mother of all empires Jack! Can’t fret over every colony!

  • @AdamMounam
    @AdamMounam Місяць тому

    The Limbo reference with the spider leg was my favourite bit! Im obsessed with this channel and the high quality content it produces! Keep it up! 👍🏻

  • @TheDreamerintheStarlight
    @TheDreamerintheStarlight 7 місяців тому +5

    Fun fact: Liberia was actually a decently developed country for the region until the 1980’s when their economy pretty much took a nosedive

  • @andrews_lego_tanks_and_more
    @andrews_lego_tanks_and_more Рік тому +16

    "Belgum is also here for some reason", yha, that about sums it up.

  • @andromeda331
    @andromeda331 Рік тому +46

    Another great one! I love the list. "We're here!" Also love Teddy Roosevelt peaking out of the bushes.

    • @egosumhomovespertilionem2022
      @egosumhomovespertilionem2022 Рік тому +3

      Theodore Roosevelt was a great president, but his triumphant nationalism also led the United States down a path of quasi-imperialism before the Second World War reminded us that was not who the American nation was supposed to be. Sure, Americans have fought foreign wars, but that was more often than not to defeat foreign imperialists, communists and other authoritarian regimes bent on regional conquest. As I said above, the United States has not added a single square inch of sovereign territory since 1898, and it has long ago divested itself of its accidental empire of 1898, i.e., Cuba and the Philippines.

    • @SoshoKozadokaGojiraChargedUp
      @SoshoKozadokaGojiraChargedUp Рік тому

      *That feeling when the jungle starts speaking Yankee*

  • @carlgrau5910
    @carlgrau5910 Рік тому +5

    Best channel on UA-cam!! Love your work history matter's

  • @eacalvert
    @eacalvert Рік тому

    Once again the level of detail in the video where I have to pause or go back to read things love it!!!!!

  • @expandedhistory
    @expandedhistory Рік тому +341

    This channel is the epitome of answering questions we never knew we had but always wanted to know.

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 Рік тому +5

      America and Russia historically were pretty similar in their expansion, they simply spread out in a direction with less powerful rivals and thus built giant transcontinental empires. Hence why they each had little interest in colonizing Africa.

    • @balabanasireti
      @balabanasireti Рік тому +2

      And yet people keep posting the same comment under every video.
      I guess that being a like beggar is way easier than being original

    • @tommiddlefinger6188
      @tommiddlefinger6188 Рік тому

      If you live in Nevada, do NOT v o t e for Chuck Short. He is running ads on this channnel but he is a JERRK. We don't need more of the diversty Commmunst type Democrts.

  • @lonelyheartproductions5237
    @lonelyheartproductions5237 Рік тому +22

    That Limbo reference had me grinning from ear to ear. Brought back so many memories.

    • @tommiddlefinger6188
      @tommiddlefinger6188 Рік тому

      If you live in Nevada, do NOT v o t e for Chuck Short. He is running ads on this channnel but he is a JERRK. We don't need more of the diversty Commmunst type Democrts.

  • @brivetteebanks-lynch3149
    @brivetteebanks-lynch3149 Рік тому +13

    0:20 Look closely on Africa U.S states these are Florida,Virginia,Texas(1830's),Delaware and Rhode Island.
    I hope this helped you

  • @CliffSavage2021
    @CliffSavage2021 Рік тому

    The Limbo reference was so quick and perfect. I love this channel.

  • @Joaquin_Z
    @Joaquin_Z Рік тому +146

    The US also used its influence during the Scramble for Africa to help safeguard Liberia from European colonisation from France and Germany. France took a big chunk of Liberian territory but the US was the reason it wasn’t completely consumed. Thus, the US’ protection is the reason why by WWI, Liberia was one of only two independent states in Africa

    • @terrorgaming459
      @terrorgaming459 Рік тому +12

      America now has hygomony over the world

    • @terrynewsome6698
      @terrynewsome6698 Рік тому +17

      @@terrorgaming459 soft power is awesome, all the benefits none of the headaches

    • @jcl4370
      @jcl4370 Рік тому +4

      @@terrynewsome6698 Unfortunately Russia didn't get the memo

    • @anneslot7013
      @anneslot7013 Рік тому

      @@terrynewsome6698 "soft power", the literal destabilization of the entire Middle East, bruh

    • @Seriona1
      @Seriona1 11 місяців тому +2

      Liberia to this day still gets American Protection even in the smallest ways. The US has basically extended Monroe Doctrine De Facto over Liberia. The Liberian military completely uses everything the US used in the 80's and every time there is an armed conflict in Liberia, the US marines are sent in for whatever mission is required. It's almost a US state in the way our government acts sometimes.

  • @DanielRochester800
    @DanielRochester800 Рік тому +182

    The Scramble for Africa is such an elaborate yet overlooked topic in history.

    • @kirjoittajajoni
      @kirjoittajajoni Рік тому +7

      Is it? I remember it being a big deal in midschool history classes here in Finland

    • @SamuriLemonX18
      @SamuriLemonX18 Рік тому +37

      It really isn't overlooked in an academic sense

    • @tmp88
      @tmp88 Рік тому +2

      @@kirjoittajajoni I don’t remember it even being touched, growing up in the US in a quite decent school district.

    • @MrShadowThief
      @MrShadowThief Рік тому +35

      @@SamuriLemonX18 I think it's overlooked in the sense of just reducing it to a matter of "Europe bad, Africa now poor" instead of trying to cover it like an actual historical event.

    • @simplesimon8255
      @simplesimon8255 Рік тому +7

      They never got Ethiopia

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Рік тому +20

    This is one of those questions I hadn't really thought of before, but I was definitely interested in seeing the answer. Thank you for another interesting video!
    Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)

  • @Fierce0Deity0Link
    @Fierce0Deity0Link Рік тому +2

    That visual gag about Limbo made me chuckle. Such a great game.

  • @r.a.acosta6528
    @r.a.acosta6528 Рік тому +43

    Those "Rules" at 0:13 were hilarious. This channel is too much. 😂

  • @harveya1a952
    @harveya1a952 Рік тому +81

    James Bisonette should have got a part of Africa

  • @aelicien7970
    @aelicien7970 Рік тому +1

    I love the LIMBO reference you made 1:51, a truly great game.

  • @toxenzz
    @toxenzz Рік тому

    Wow, never really deviled onto this topic. Thank you!

  • @jackespinos7138
    @jackespinos7138 Рік тому +170

    0:21 I love how the hypothetical US colonies in Africa are shaped like US states. Looks like Florida, Rhode Island, Delaware, Virginia and Texas (during the Texas republic)

    • @androzani
      @androzani Рік тому +1

      They did leave out Tiverton and Little Compton thou. To be fair, as small as Rhode Island is, we even forget that they are there.

    • @aperson22222
      @aperson22222 Рік тому +1

      Huh, I’d missed that. Good catch!

    • @tommiddlefinger6188
      @tommiddlefinger6188 Рік тому

      If you live in Nevada, do NOT v o t e for Chuck Short. He is running ads on this channnel but he is a JERRK. We don't need more of the diversty Commmunst type Democrts.

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 Рік тому

      Rhode Island in the eastern side of the continent shares the same name as Cecil Rhodes
      This must be the American Rhodesia History Matters has in mind

  • @maddrone7814
    @maddrone7814 Рік тому +149

    US: why can’t we just not colonize Africa but just trade?
    All of Europe: *that isn’t very cash money of you*

    • @attackonmars5198
      @attackonmars5198 Рік тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 You Europeans always loved stealing land and claiming it as yours smh....

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 Рік тому +27

      Funny enough the German Emperor of the time didn’t think colonization was a good idea either since it turns out colonies are expensive to maintain, but got pressured to pursue colonies anyway by his own government and people who thought colonies were awesome since the other great powers had them.

    • @pecadodeorgullo5963
      @pecadodeorgullo5963 Рік тому +4

      @@brandonlyon730 it was actually Bismark who opposed funding colonies abroad.

    • @deathkitten7635
      @deathkitten7635 Рік тому +5

      @@brandonlyon730 true, colonies actually didn’t benefit Europe that much, it was more just a competition to grab land.

    • @FumbleSquid
      @FumbleSquid Рік тому

      *coughs* south/central america *coughs*

  • @arandombard1197
    @arandombard1197 Рік тому +25

    Yeah, it's pretty much as I guessed - they already had secured themselves the entirety of NA to work with so their expansionist needs were simply already fulfilled. Compare that to west Europe with had long since hit the limits of the available space and resources, and could only expand through increasingly expensive and violent wars. They were so converging into larger but fewer states so it was just getting harder and harder to do. Then suddenly, this concept of 'colonialism' was invented and they realized they could just take land from much easier to defeat foreigners on another continent and it made sense. Afterall, why fight another European powerhouse on your own front door when you can fight natives wielding spears against your muskets?
    Had the scramble for Africa happened later, USA would definitely have gotten invovlved.

    • @laujack24
      @laujack24 Рік тому +1

      didn't get involve actually better, its gonna be very difficult dealing with the african nation down the line if u have brutal colonial past like most of the european. consider the geopolitic we getting our self into today. africa going to be battle ground of great power, gaining support and winning resource battle there will be key in cold war 2.0.

  • @leafygreen460
    @leafygreen460 Рік тому +7

    I'm surprised no one else caught that the monroe doctrine was signed by "Jimmy M" lmao

  • @ChessedGamon
    @ChessedGamon Рік тому +169

    The history of american foreign policy feels like the geopolitical equivalent of Two-Face from Batman

    • @acat6145
      @acat6145 Рік тому +39

      That makes sense with democracy and changing administrations

    • @TheLegoMaster261
      @TheLegoMaster261 Рік тому

      You just hate America

    • @MatheusLB2009
      @MatheusLB2009 Рік тому +4

      "The perfect comment doesn't exist-..."

    • @Ravie1
      @Ravie1 Рік тому +45

      We have a long history of oscillating between being extremely uninvolved on the international stage and being very very involved. The American public has generally been isolationist, it's not very surprising when you view the geopolitical situation we're in, we're resource rich so we don't need the rest of the planet, but after two costly world wars we felt the need to become heavily involved in the world through trade and military might.

    • @neetard1774
      @neetard1774 Рік тому

      It changed its foreign policy in the influence of Zionism and mainly when Israel formed

  • @PetTheCat3730
    @PetTheCat3730 Рік тому +12

    The "Limbo" reference was a very nice touch

  • @EV-wp1fj
    @EV-wp1fj Рік тому +3

    This channel has taught me many things, but the greatest lesson of all is that I really should run through a field of flowers sometime.

  • @carloscampo9119
    @carloscampo9119 Рік тому +4

    A LIMBO reference totally unexpected. Ha. Great job.

  • @edwardengland8349
    @edwardengland8349 Рік тому +22

    1:52 +10 million points for the Limbo reference.

  • @Omar-cw5gg
    @Omar-cw5gg Рік тому +10

    I want to see an alternate history for this 0:50

  • @jackthehacker05
    @jackthehacker05 Рік тому

    That Limbo reference was incredible, bravo!

  • @tylerpoire3496
    @tylerpoire3496 Рік тому +3

    I've watched all of the history matters videos multiple times, especially the 10 min ones

  • @BigFatWow
    @BigFatWow Рік тому +27

    Actual reason: Africa is east, and Manifest Destiney says you have to go West.

    • @merwthegreat
      @merwthegreat Рік тому +2

      i see, thats why they went for japan

    • @marcuseasoniiyt
      @marcuseasoniiyt Рік тому

      Well, almost right. The United States went after Germany and Italy in World War II.

    • @MattJunewski
      @MattJunewski Рік тому

      Well tehnically if you go to africa through asia that means you go West so technically that still applies.

  • @kcgunesq
    @kcgunesq Рік тому +152

    Honestly, given the distance from the US, I wonder if the available resources simply weren't worth the effort when we could probably do just as well setting up shop in central and south America. I think the video alludes to this, but doesn't really focus on the fact that the distance and the need to move everything via ship over large oceans introduces huge additional costs.

    • @kjellvanderpoten3141
      @kjellvanderpoten3141 Рік тому +8

      also still busy with pushing out the natives is what I got from the video, but I'm not sure that's what he meant with "consolidation"

    • @epicgamerzfail4575
      @epicgamerzfail4575 Рік тому +32

      Also something to keep in mind the us navy at this point was no where near as powerful as the European nations, which you would kinda need if you wanted to enforce territory overseas.

    • @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan
      @Josep_Hernandez_Lujan Рік тому

      Oh, American companies did their fair share of looting Africa

    • @buddermonger2000
      @buddermonger2000 Рік тому +5

      @@kjellvanderpoten3141 Eh not quite more just filling it with more Americans as otherwise it's just useless land.

    • @kaiquecf
      @kaiquecf Рік тому +4

      Well, shortly after USA annexed the Philippines far, far away from the densely populated east coast.

  • @Lexicommonzero
    @Lexicommonzero Рік тому

    I always love the prancing through the flowers clip

  • @Lions400
    @Lions400 Рік тому +3

    1:59 those animations look adorable

  • @campfireeverything
    @campfireeverything Рік тому +11

    I certainly did enjoy this episode, thank you.

  • @jerekeya9910
    @jerekeya9910 Рік тому +17

    Number 5 on the berlin conference rules has me dying with laughter

  • @EHonda-ds6ve
    @EHonda-ds6ve Рік тому +5

    "America just wanting to trade is a theme of americas late 19th to early 20th century US-foreign policy"
    And then they took 1898 ( 13 years after the conference ) Puerto Rico, Guam, the Phillipines and Cuba from Spain.

  • @VELOOSIFIX
    @VELOOSIFIX 11 місяців тому +3

    I saw Florida and Virginia in Africa on the thumbnail

  • @gtaRadi0
    @gtaRadi0 Рік тому +58

    As an African I’m thankful for the positive influences of western culture, but also wish the borders weren’t purposely drawn to cause chaos and conflict that still plagues us to this day.

    • @righthandstep5
      @righthandstep5 Рік тому +3

      This op^^^

    • @sakurakou2009
      @sakurakou2009 Рік тому +4

      you do know that african people can change that but they wouldnt bt cuz they all still conolized in their minds

    • @gtaRadi0
      @gtaRadi0 Рік тому

      @@sakurakou2009 you’re right but if you think about how dems and republicans are forced into tribalism and how that will be the U.S eventual downfall then you realize majority of humans brains aren’t smart enough to put their differences aside for greater good.

    • @gabriel.b9036
      @gabriel.b9036 Рік тому +11

      @@sakurakou2009 What?

    • @sakurakou2009
      @sakurakou2009 Рік тому +1

      @@gabriel.b9036 what can't read 🙄

  • @c.aresty
    @c.aresty Рік тому +80

    "The late 19th century wasn't great for Africa or Africans." Now nominated for greatest understatement of all time ✅

    • @RonJohn63
      @RonJohn63 Рік тому +2

      It would be interesting to look at the population of Africa in 1800 then 1850 and 1910. That _might_ (or might not) show that the Scramble for Africa was good for Africans (if you define "good for Africans" as being "there are a lot more Africans").

    • @liamjm9278
      @liamjm9278 Рік тому

      What's the appropriate statement?

    • @rampantmutt9119
      @rampantmutt9119 Рік тому

      "But muh technology!"

  • @southend26
    @southend26 Рік тому +4

    The little parchments on this one are gold. 😂

  • @myahein2095
    @myahein2095 9 місяців тому

    Love how you added limbo❤

  • @AG-ni8jm
    @AG-ni8jm Рік тому +7

    Lol 0:56 the Austrian Emperor with his sign "I'm also here"

  • @vteles
    @vteles Рік тому +10

    Placing US “claims” in the shape of American States on Africa?
    Well Done, sir..

  • @EnigmaticDecay
    @EnigmaticDecay Рік тому

    Love this channel.

  • @160509able
    @160509able Рік тому

    Great video, very informative

  • @hatsjer
    @hatsjer Рік тому +7

    That limbo reference was such a nostalgia out of nowhere.

    • @heythere6405
      @heythere6405 Рік тому +1

      thank you! i had to pause and rewind cause i thought i saw a limbo spider arm😂

  • @Jordan77831
    @Jordan77831 Рік тому +15

    Well, with Alaska being colonised, Hawaii, American Samoa, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Guam and the wild west, it's ambitious for the 19th century American government to reach Africa as well

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 Рік тому

      Imagine the US getting declared war/sanctioned by the great powers of 1900 using the notion of containment as a cause over this overextension

  • @Kilometer-nz5yj
    @Kilometer-nz5yj 3 місяці тому

    I like this channel, its kind of like oversimplified, but uploads more often

  • @Qwerty-qg6db
    @Qwerty-qg6db Рік тому

    I like that you put American Gothic on the outro background

  • @1rjbrjb
    @1rjbrjb Рік тому +4

    You do an incredible job of brilliantly answering questions no one had thought to ask, which is entirely our fault and not yours. Well done!

  • @Byzantiumball
    @Byzantiumball Рік тому +65

    Haven’t even watched it and I already know it’s good

  • @CanadianReef
    @CanadianReef Рік тому

    I love how you included old states on the thumbnail.

  • @GottlikeDamon
    @GottlikeDamon Рік тому +1

    Thank you for including the "exceptions" of the Monroe Doctrine.

  • @NIDELLANEUM
    @NIDELLANEUM Рік тому +130

    Wouldn't another reason be the (then) recent Civil War? I mean, imagine going through years of war regarding slavery, and then 20 years later you try to obtain parts of the very continent where those slaves came from. It could have caused a huge mess in the nation

    • @ryangale3757
      @ryangale3757 Рік тому +10

      Was just thinking that as well.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Рік тому +26

      Not at all. They wouldn't have been trying to revive the slave trade, and the newly freed African-Americans didn't have anywhere near the socio-political power to influence even domestic policy much less foreign and colonial affairs. Even US abolitionists probably would have been able to rationalize it as bringing "civilization to the savages". etc.

    • @MrQuantumInc
      @MrQuantumInc Рік тому +24

      @@obsidianjane4413 "Now that we have ended slavery here, we need to go into Africa to make sure they are not enslaving each other!"

    • @williamking6787
      @williamking6787 Рік тому +23

      @@MrQuantumInc You joke, but that would 100% be the kind of reasoning used by late Victorian era political pundits

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Рік тому +18

      @@williamking6787 Not really a joke because slavery is still a thing in some parts of Africa.

  • @Chiefjoseph82
    @Chiefjoseph82 Рік тому +8

    1:36 Love it, made me laugh. Keep up the good work.

  • @jembo1809
    @jembo1809 Рік тому

    you have answered most of my questions in under 8 minutes

  • @_Devil
    @_Devil Рік тому +15

    The US refusing to Imperialize and carve up foreign lands ensured that the US would win in the long run. Major European powers like Germany, Portugal, Spain, France, and Britain lost 90% of their empirical lands post-WW2 while the United States, in it's long history and what few lands it occupied, only ever lost the Philippines and Liberia. The borders we had in 1853 is the exact same borders we hold today, which the same cannot be said for most European nations. We still hold Guam and Puerto Rico to this day and there's been talks for a few decades now to make them into full-on States, rather than just territories. Its honestly one of the few major powers in modern world history that never had an empire, only small island chains in the Pacific, and never tried carving up Asia, Africa, or the Middle East (Attempting to set up puppet governments is a whole different thing that I wont get into but I digress)

    • @FG-bu3jp
      @FG-bu3jp Рік тому +1

      The only reason that happened is because the burglar was satisfied with the 9 odd million square kilometers it stole. It didn't have the need to colonize Africa like the smaller european countries.

    • @rannenw6207
      @rannenw6207 Рік тому +2

      @@FG-bu3jp So? England ,and France took how much land from the current country?

    • @eve_avery
      @eve_avery 9 місяців тому

      The US also imperialized and became an empire, it just, as you said, hasn't lost those lands yet

  • @LiezAllLiez
    @LiezAllLiez Рік тому +12

    1:51 I find this Limbo reference cute. Well done, sir.

    • @tommiddlefinger6188
      @tommiddlefinger6188 Рік тому

      If you live in Nevada, do NOT v o t e for Chuck Short. He is running ads on this channnel but he is a JERRK. We don't need more of the diversty Commmunst type Democrts.

  • @austenbin4068
    @austenbin4068 Рік тому +101

    I would add that the US Navy of the time was in no way, shape, or form able to maintain and defend an empire in Africa. Most of the major South American nations had navies that could easily defeat the US by sea. Many in the US were still very anti-standing military as a founding principle of the country. By the end of the Civil War, the US had a military to rival the European powers, but a decade later it was a third rate power again with little funding. The Steel Navy would only just begin being built in the late 1880s(with great reluctance by Congress), and only won the Spainsh-American War because the Spanish Navy was in even worse shape than that of the US.

    • @ethanmcfarland8240
      @ethanmcfarland8240 Рік тому +3

      Different story by WW1

    • @burst1238
      @burst1238 Рік тому

      I could be wrong but I feel like once the civil war came and went the US navy could probably beat anyone in the America's except the obvious colonial powers.

    • @mesa9724
      @mesa9724 Рік тому +19

      I agree, also worth mentioning the Barbary States (Algiers), the 19th century equivalent of Somalian Pirates, were being a real menace to American ships in the Mediterranean and the U.S. navy was not being able to deal with this rudimentary pirates. In the same time period arround 1850, the British navy had caught 436 pirate vessels and freed 17 000 captives while the U.S. Navy had only captured or sunk 12.
      Edit: For everyone saying doubting my claim between: “1845 and 1850, the United States Navy captured only 10 slave vessels, while the British captured 423 vessels carrying 27,000 captives.” Sweetman, Jack (2002). American Naval History: An Illustrated Chronology of the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps, 1775-present.

    • @seco000
      @seco000 Рік тому +13

      ​@@ethanmcfarland8240 same thing happened after WW1, the US was still very into isolationism when it came to the Europeans. The US had around 180,000 soldiers, with a population a
      of around d 130 million, before it got involved in WW2.

    • @ethanmcfarland8240
      @ethanmcfarland8240 Рік тому

      @@mesa9724
      To be fair, the U.S was like 12 years old at this point

  • @andreasoberhammer4661
    @andreasoberhammer4661 Рік тому

    The Thumbnail is really creative.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 4 місяці тому

    Great video 👍🏻

  • @thatdogguy9838
    @thatdogguy9838 Рік тому +5

    Because they respected Portugals claim for All of Africa

    • @graveperil2169
      @graveperil2169 Рік тому +2

      but not spains guess the pope was only half right

  • @alinkbetweengames4328
    @alinkbetweengames4328 Рік тому +3

    The visual gags are always top-notch, but the ones at 1:35 and 1:52 are the best I have seen.

  • @eturner
    @eturner Рік тому

    I love his attention to detail. For the part of Africa that he used in the in the thumbnail, he uses the shape of Florida where Morocco is. If you went straight east from Florida, you'd be in Morocco.

  • @janteo1
    @janteo1 Рік тому

    The limbo reference is briliant

  • @cmjcj2ktn
    @cmjcj2ktn Рік тому +39

    The history of Liberia would be a good video in and of itself, but would require viewer discretion.

    • @Mark-xp3cg
      @Mark-xp3cg Рік тому +13

      I too want to see a General Butt Naked cameo in a History Matters video.

    • @purplespeckledappleeater8738
      @purplespeckledappleeater8738 Рік тому +2

      General Butt Naked is genuinely an underrated historical figure. Starts out as a warlord and ends up building churches.

  • @masterelitant6065
    @masterelitant6065 Рік тому +13

    i love how the thumbnail map shows us territories in africa shaped like us territories

    • @shinsenshogun900
      @shinsenshogun900 Рік тому

      Both current and historical boundaries
      If only Florida was in Uganda tbh, but American Rhodesia got me

    • @masterelitant6065
      @masterelitant6065 Рік тому

      @@shinsenshogun900 yes that's why i said territories not states, because by territories i mean past and modern us land

  • @alparslankorkmaz2964
    @alparslankorkmaz2964 Рік тому +1

    Nicely explained.

  • @sabrakt
    @sabrakt Рік тому

    I wasn't ready for that Limbo reference, damn!

  • @lemonfellow4703
    @lemonfellow4703 Рік тому +5

    1:50 loved the limbo reference

  • @willek1335
    @willek1335 Рік тому +78

    Scrambling for Africa was largely a thing rich empires did to flaunt their resume. British Empire wanted to create a railway north south, which is nuts at this point. The French wanted west-east railroad, which is equally nuts. Economically, African colonies were not even self-sustaining, mostly due to lack of communication across the interior. USA was at this point an up%coming power, more pragmatic, while Europens were by far more capable to splurge until WW1, when the balance was at the precipice. Now it's China's turn to cover Asia and Africa in the same manner, the belt.

    • @frka.836
      @frka.836 Рік тому +4

      Chinese initiative is a bit different though, apart from the fact that it will interconnect many developing economies to develop ones (not just unlimited pieces of desert and Forest, it will also allow them bypass the traditionals maritime roads which are mostly under US control)

    • @SuperCatacata
      @SuperCatacata Рік тому +28

      @@frka.836 A bit different. But every bit as exploitative.

    • @c0ya1
      @c0ya1 Рік тому

      @@SuperCatacata hell, china, much like Russia are switching to Neo-Colonialism. Not good.

    • @NewSherrif
      @NewSherrif Рік тому +5

      @@SuperCatacata No It isn't

    • @charlestonianbuilder344
      @charlestonianbuilder344 Рік тому +2

      @@SuperCatacata just like american neocolonialism

  • @MadMan3498
    @MadMan3498 Рік тому +5

    A funny sidenote to this is that the State of Maryland had a short lived colony in west Africa , this colony would break off declaring itself the Republic of Maryland for which itself was short lived and incorporated into Liberia as Maryland County.

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions Рік тому +2

      I've heard of this republic! It is quite an interesting chapter in the history of both Liberia and Maryland!

  • @satyakisil9711
    @satyakisil9711 Рік тому +1

    That Limbo spider footage was the icing on the cake.