The ISSUE With Full Depth Squats
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- Опубліковано 2 січ 2023
- In this video, I'm sharing with you a major issue with full depth squats. If you're doing full depth squats, be sure to avoid this problem!
Quarter squats are a great exercise for beginner and intermediate athletes. They're a great way to add variety to your leg workouts and they're a great way to increase your strength and muscle tone. However, full depth squats have a major issue that you need to be aware of. If you're doing full depth squats, be sure to avoid this problem! This is the best squat for athletic performance.
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Knees over toe guy has entered the chat:
For real 😂😂
And says to do nordic curls for better jump. I don't think that he ever said that full squat is good for jump height
@@talkingbirb2808he talks often about how ATG squatting helped him with basketball... made dunking "too easy"
@@harvey_weenstain8857full depth squats help with knee pain, not jumping. However atg split squats also train stability and mobility under load, which plays a major factor in explosiveness
I mean, full range squats are _good_ , I just don't think they're specific to jumping
What the fuck is bro yappin about 💀
Idk man Edgar just likes the sound of his girly, balls-haven’t-dropped-yet voice
he cant hit depth with 225 so now he is telling everyone to quarter squat lmfao
@@wasabi5338 i bet bro cant even jump 1m
Im talking boyt you btw
He’s right, quarter squats are better as they store more elastic energy (the duration of lengthening and shortening of a muscle). For hypertrophy full ROM would be best but for vertical jumps, quarter squats are better.
The "don't recommend channel" button looks real nice when I see this guy
hahaha... my thoughts exactly... well it is now...
the smart ass sunglasses dont make me look at any advice from this guy.... seriously
@@albertbresca8904 cope harder
@@foldedcandlehe is wrong, full depth squats will never harm your athleticism. They might be less sport specific, but actually being detrimental to your performance is outright incorrect. The average person isn't an athlete, they should perform full ranges of motion rather than half or quarter reps
Broccoli cut detected opinion rejected
@@foldedcandlethats why giannis never does full depth squats
"which is why i dont use belt for squats" did not age well 💀
When you squat over 85% of your 1 RPM you should squat with a belt 🙃
Why?
@@katilkoala5037 so you don’t fuck up your back and get a hernia
@@biggymgainer8125 bruh i never use belt just because i dont feel the necessity but i give crédit but bad form is going to fuck your back
@@fabiocastro2122 more so for a hernia. If your squatting heavy and you are like straining it can give you a hernia and I belt stops that
There are several other studies that suggest that full range of motion squatting yield significantly higher returns to vertical leap compared to quarter squats or leg pressing movements.
Jumping in sports is different then a standing bros jump. In sports you never go down to parallel and always jump with an approach
@@Coach_MarioRios again, there is a reason why kneesovertoesguy says squat full depht, i believe him more than you really
@@Coach_MarioRios a standing vertical leap correlates quite significantly to a full approach. If someone’s standing vertical is high with good technique, their full approach vertical would likely also be high. A full squat also has a high rate of force production and total force production (newtons of force). Which are the two components to a vertical jump, which is also why exercises like the hang clean are superb for improving vertical, because they require high amounts of force to be produced at very high speeds. Those two factors are what correlate most with vertical.
@@Coach_MarioRios ask knees over toes bruh. He could jump over you
@@Coach_MarioRios you got major ratioed
I do plyometrocs once a week. Full depth pistol squats have helped my balance and flexibility.
Ik this comments old but plyos low intensity so you can probably do them in like half of all your workouts
ATG pistol squats... for balance..
interesting... thanks for the idea...
i can do 60kg squat but can't walk without a stick and it seems balance...
@@albertbresca8904 have you tried pistol squats lol? Balance is a lot harder than a normal bb squat. No hate though
again mate, you are largely oversimplifying an exercise and secularising it to a single use. some aren’t training for athleticism. they are training to either put on mass on their legs, or increase their strength. correct me if I’m wrong.
also, even if I disagree with some of the content you post, I’m finding your videos on the algorithm constantly. keep grinding 🙏🏻
If you aren’t training for athelticism that means this particular video isn’t for you. Some of my content is athlete based, some is “athletic bodybuilding” based.
@@Coach_MarioRios gotcha. wasn’t trying to be rude, just trying to figure out the content 🫡
He isn't saying you should depth squat for mass or strength
@@Coach_MarioRiosthen be concise
@@TsarNicholas2nd
yes that woudl be helpful...
this annoyed me quite a bit..
i do full depth (or ATG) squats ... my legs are strong but my balance is terrible and i need a walking stick... can run..
Chinese weightlifters do deep squats and have amazing vertical jumps. Look at lu xiajun, Li diayin, etc.
There’s nothing about them not supplementing it with poly metric training too tho
Look at Lebron James. As a whole quater squats are better for atheletism and vertical jumping. I would do both tbh you get both the benefits
@@roberthold5624 that dude is 6'9. His jump is obviously way higher than average person.
@@lol6434 being tall does not make you jump higher what are you talking about bro 💀
@@lol6434 heifjf doesnt have to do with how u jump vertical is from toe to ground
I keep forgetting the first few words he says are for attention grabbing and he doesn’t mean then 90% of the time 💀
Say that to olympic weightlifter😂
He said athletic purposes in sports that requires explosive movement not wieght lifters, gosh you guys are dumb
Can you hear
If your goal is muscle growth then this video is hurting your gainz.
That’s why he said IF your goal is jumping, not gAiNz
@@tarunrathour9334Squatting is not jumping. You squat to build muscle and strength. This is just a weak excuse to not do something difficult.
@@ensnaredbyflesh1030he said for athleticism how bodybuilders and athletes are same it's not excuse 😅
@@ensnaredbyflesh1030bro what?🤦♂️
@@tarunrathour9334
Isiah Rivera preaches deep sqauts over quarter sqauts. Why do NBA players do deep squats?
🤡 trying to justify why you can't squat ATG
Even tho I was in the video 🙃
@@Coach_MarioRios and you don't know the difference between breaking 90 and ATG? 🤦♂️
@@dannyarriaga1 jeez the hating is getting boring now
@@yxngaddz8890 you busted out your second account to defend yourself? Lmao
@@dannyarriaga1 I don’t even have a second account now please just rest 🤦🏾♂️
That's why Mario only does full depth squats with Leon Edward's in the bedroom.😂😂😂
STOP SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION
Bro is going to ruin his core with the belt smh
You are completely wrong. Referenced one study. Majority studies suggest full depth squats are the optimal way to increase force production
yeah it was only one study that came to these conclusions
He is speaking completely from an athletic performance standpoint, and he’s not wrong; there are studies backing what he’s saying.
for athleticism 🤓🤓🤓
The emoji just got me dead bro💀💀💀
Can u pls elaborate normie?
@@Zero-rp4xryou have a killua pfp, you cant use that word bud
He’s not wrong
@@user-kn9yy3ee2p I’m too lazy to change it lol
Stefen Holm, high jumper does full ass to grass and no quater squats and the jumping part is abvious even if you do quater squats you still need to jump. So the best way is full ROM heavy squats and jump training.
With quarter squares I can do 315lbs 10-12 reps and with deep squats I struggle with 95 lbs 4 reps
Thanks for making this vid i really want to jump higher and run faster, but i would do both full depth squat and a quarter squat
Just do your squat kings, don’t overthink lifting heavy things
He’s not wrong though
or you can just do both
@@rhinotv3646he’s very wrong. He said ful depth squats are “ruining” it doesn’t ruin shit it’s just not as sports like as they others but still doesn’t make it “ruin” shit
@@rhinotv3646 He is definitely wrong, he makes the claim that FULL DEPTH is ruining your athleticism. That is a wild statement as injury prevention and better proficiencies when your muscles do go down to those ranges is a major factor being neglected.
@@khalilal-mujeeb9693he is right if you only do it he supplement it with plyometrics you will be athletic demon
*cough *cough SOME PEOPLE DON'T NEED HIGH VERTICALS
Thats why he said “bad for athleticism, but yeah bro is coping
Yeah what are you talking about. He didn’t say not to drop them entirely
And who are you that everyone should follow?
bro 😭 they’re both great for athleticism, full depth trains overall strength and quarter and half trains explosiveness and movement
@@TheRealMightyMouse32 huh? just state your point and i bet my argument will still stand
@@kevinGburner he said that both were good for athleticism to an extent
He said that it helps indirectly, which means it is good for athleticism to an extent
@@TheRealMightyMouse32 same thing with quarter squats, it serves a different purpose than the full depth, as depth has more strength, therefore tougher running if you’re looking at a sport like football. take saquan for example, you can tell he does full depth, and he is fast, athletic, and strong all in one.
@@TheRealMightyMouse32 ok so why are you still arguing
this is hilarious not even gonna lie. it’s like an elaborate troll that he’s in on because there’s no way he’s serious rn HAHAHA. athletic bodybuilding he calls it there’s literally no such thing. bodybuilding is different to athleticism however you can incorporate both. that doesn’t mean you stop squatting depth or you start doing some random shit like you have to be trolling at this point. i hope no one actually takes from these videos thinking they’ve learnt something.
Brother literally every NBA player does quarter squats it’s not random just because you don’t know what it is
You are completely right, as a teen body builder I can vouch THIS video is facts, if you aren't a athlete scroll past this video as he's directly giving information for athletes not body builders.
Then again if you are body building full Squats will do you the charm.
Dude i squat so deep that my heels touch my butt and i can broad jump 8 feet i am 15 and 5'5 btw
embarrassing to call yourself a coach
We need more videos about store electric energy. I wanna know which exercises train to run faster and jump higher
That’s why power lifting is a thing thay change the dept of the squat usually with something underneath you
ATG squats save your knees. Stopping Half way or parallel puts the focus and pressure on the knees. Going low it puts it on the glutes
People are mad about what? He said squats are good and half and quarter are better for jumps didnt mention if they grow more muscle
Nah G I squat to USAPL depth which is hip crews below the knee half squats and quarter squat are a shit excuse to not actually squat and to load up weight and I still jump 39 in vert and a 10’6 broad so no 😂
Ass to grass is for the kinetic chain of the legs; muscles, tendons, ligaments, and how they harmonize together. Athletes should be doing them, but what exactly they're training for dictates volume and weight(or lack thereof), as well as the supplementary exercises.
Also, never lock out your deadlift and overhead press. Oh, and 1/4 range pullups are the bomb.
Why is this small dude trying to be a fitness influencer lmao
Stop telling people to stop doing things that you Either cant do or you have a problem doing 😂
You need to squat full ROM to have a good stronger base to work on half and quarter squats or box squats even plyos
my knees tell me otherwise them full depth jawns crispy af
These dudes spew out nonsense making lifting over complicated, all to just look flashy. Just squat the damn bar
We aren't trying to use stored elastic energy.
The stretch shortening cycle (SSC) should not be a part of squatting for strength. Keep it out. Partials are good for jumping and sprinting.
"Full depths squats are ruining your athleticism."
"I'm not saying full depth squats do nothing for athleticism."
*Bruh.*
full depth squats aren't bad for athleticism and you can say the same thing for all depths of squats without plyometrics quarter squats and half squats are terrible without plyometrics as well and you don't squat to improve stored elastic energy you use plyometrics you use strength for peak force and total force production so you make no sense and it also depends on your training age if your younger training age full depth is better for force production as an older age total force production in joint specific angles is more important so again your wrong
Why would you train for athleticism and not do plyometrics 😂 So basically do full depth squats as long as you’re doing everything else an athlete should 👍🏼
Squats: is that an excuse.
No squat I mean no squat will increase your athleticism. You lift weights to increase strength and then use your increased strength to do plyos, sprints and agility drills to improve athleticism.
This kid gets it's wrong everytime.
You lost me at “full depth squats are ruining your athleticism”.
the comments on mario videos just goes to show how low the average attention spam of tiktok and shorts addicts is
Yeah full squats pulled me from a 4.3 40 yard dash to a 4.7 shits sad as hell 😅 switching back to quarter
I do full depth to help my knees range of motion. Definitely gonna add quarter squats into my routine though
That graph is hilariously misleading, and the study it’s attached to is very flawed.
16 weeks of rep max efforts, no deload, no accounting for fatigue (likely much greater in the full ROM group).
To my knowledge, it’s never been replicated either.
If you want half a leg do half a squat
This gent just making excuses for poor depth 😂
Certified S&C coach here- this is complete bull crap.
bro I can't trust that grafic, anybody too?
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My personal trainer says the same
This is also why high-handle trap bar deadlifts provide better utility for athletes.
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I dont think this is accurate at all, there is no way full depth squats wont have athletic carry over. You are training through the entire range of motion, including that quarter squat stance frequently seen in sports
He said there is
Full depth squats is arguably the best variation of squat for athleticism. Developing the complete musculature of the legs, improving ankle and knee mobility, developing better elasticity on the tendons of the legs and improving balance. what ruins you athleticism is not training your aerobic and anaerobic endurace.
I'm a grown ass man.. when the fuck do I need to "HOP"
For sports?
@@jiimmiij4428 99.99% of people will never get paid enough to actually validate learning how to vertically leap Pass 24"
@@angrytwitch5128okay and most bodybuilders aren't getting paid enough to be injecting roids.
What is your point random user I saw on the internet?
@karme286 I do agree that most don't get paid enough to use gear, but still utilize the benefits of growing muscle and gaining strength.
@@angrytwitch5128when buddy
I’ll be honest bro, you don’t know what your talking about. Look at one of the best jumpers Isaiah. Look at his training.
This is literal fact from the Essentials strength and conditioning textbook by nsca. There’s a reason you provided no counterargument and only provided an exception to a rule. And jumping in sports is far different from a normal jump
This is copy paste essentially from the NSCA, which would make you what is termed “unconsciously incompetent” because you are unaware that you don’t know about the series elastic component and how plyometric training work
@@Coach_MarioRios in your video you literally claimed “full depth squats are ruining your athleticism.” That is by far the funniest and dumbest thing I’ve heard. With a little Goggling I could easily find counter arguments done on that. There is a reason why many athletes ranging in many different sports have full depth squats in your workouts. Yes, different variations of squats may benefit you ability to work on those fast twitch muscles, but saying full depth squats are running your athleticism is just ridiculous
@@ngaithang99 he literally said that he’s not saying they do nothing for athleticism maybe watch the video before commenting
Yes but he also has a strengthing season and a explosive season where he does quater squats. You should do both do 3x4 really heavy full rang of motion squats and 5x5 heavy fast quater squats. Best advice ive seen
And half rep squats are even worse.
Full depth is better for overall leg development which is why people who can full squat heavy can half squat heavier and quarter squat super heavy without hardly training for it.. The reverse is not true, if you only train partial squats your full squat will stay weak. Why does that matter? Eventually you will hit a wall with your partial squats and have to work on less specific, more general leg strength(full squats) and then you'll have a hell of a time getting your legs developed enough to break that partial squat plateau and you'll realize you wasted your time focusing on partials and now you have to go back and actually get strong. You tried to build a house on sand and skipped the foundation.. Getting athletic is a slow and gradual process, you can't cut corners. If you could find studies that track athletes for years instead of weeks, you'd see different results.
Nice earing Bru. Anyways if you wanna use that thought process heavy weight period isn't helping either?
Full depth improves mobility (aka keeping you in the game) which every athlete that runs can benefit from it.
This guy can’t even touch rim I bet and he’s saying this like he has experience
My guy does not realise that rugby players exist
I’m calling it bullshit. I have friends who do full depth squats and increase their vertical by 4 inches in 3 months
Dudes who go super slow on full squats are the ones with no hops.
You need to do the squats fast, with light to medium weights, and many reps for a burn.
You can't just slam down to the floor, though. You have to slow the descent before you bottom out, stiffening your core and all, then shoot it up with your back straightened and ass pumping. Bam, bam, bam do as many as you can until you can't breath, or you're about to pass out.
The objective is soreness. Fast burns and stretches do the trick, baby.
Damn thank god I don’t play a sport that excuses me from not squatting to depth. I’ll take my atg 400lbs squat any day
L
No one asked tho💀
I dont understand the, hate.
full ROM may is better for hypertrophy but he has a point
Short answer: Do both if you want to be athletic
Power = Force (Heavy strength work) * Velocity (Plyos)
Idgaf, full depth squats are better for mobility and muscle development
Facts tho. Full squats don’t mimic jumping ranges of motion. You may only see some benefits at the very beginning but other than that full they don’t help much
Stored elastic energy. I bet he read that and was like I don’t understand this but let me say it anyway
Funny how olympic weightlifters are some of the most explosive people on the planet and all they do is full depth squats. Their vertical jump is insane. You can still delete the video bro.
umm, my vertical and 40yd dash speed both increased after 2 years of consistent full depth squat training
You could talk like this when you got legs like Tom Platz
Jam in the depth then explode up does wonders
Completely categorically incorrect
I want that background music to cruise to brah, what is it
Full depth squats are good for athletes that are constantly in a squat position like NFL Lineman or MLB catchers
Bros lazy
Thoughts on gripper thing for forearms?
Well if you're only able to squat 135 pounds it's probably better to develop squat strength through a full range of motion before doing quarter squats.
“Full depth squats are ruining your athleticism”
Meanwhile Arkham Batman, Big Boss, Solid Snake, Ezio, Sam Fisher, Mike Tyson out here duck walking for war ( I know this isn’t related to the video but I thought it would be funny to say)
Nah, everyone knows face pulls are killin your gains..
I will take this into consideration
You need to do both, otherwise your knees are gonna suffer
He didnt say u shouldnt
@@Golden_Frieza0912 ik, I’m giving another reason why I think you NEED to do both
If you're saying full depth squat is bad for athleticism why are you doing it then 😂
Half and quarter squat aren't good at all.
Their good for explosivness only if you do them with max effort at High velocity
This guy just confidently spouts none sense throughout all of his videos
With deep squats you also train your inner thighs
Okay okay gimme a plyometric exercise for doing before squats
Mario. Do you know how to become flexible and build leg strength?
Not all sports require you to jump high and run fast