@@ferociousrazordino3581tbf I think Rey Palpatine wasn't overly hated (some people don't like that palps had a baby but I think most are fine with it). What's hated is bringing Palpatine back with no explanation lol
The only thing that would've made it more obvious would be if the voice in Rey's head had said "Do it". And you all just read that in Palpatine's voice too so you know I'm right lmao
Unlike most of the fan theories out there, this one actually does make some sense if you really think about it... and this would actually make a great twist in the overall story. Well done.
This is the first Rey theory that hasn't made me roll my eyes. Hell, they both even make the same angry teeth grinding face when they fight. Great video.
nah that's not true. When they make the stab, Rey looks angry, while Palpatine looks more like he is really looking forward, to stab the shit out of Mace Windu xD
Me too, it makes for more conflict too... Perhaps palpatine used midiclorians just as his master did or he was afraid vader was going to turn on him (as he planned after he recruited luke)... I picked up on Rey being sinister during that fight scene & that Ren seems awfully fond of recruiting her (missed the other points though)
Yes since I saw a Star Wars rebels episode where Sabine meets her father, which is not obi wan. But that still doesn’t mean that Rey is still not the granddaughter of obi wan and duchess satine.
Vincent Vendetta who is her parents though we aren't told of palpatine having a wife or children so how can Rey be a palpatine if there's a missing link between the 2 it seems to go: Palpatine l ?!?!?!!??!!? l Rey But if she was Luke's daughter she would still have darkside and there's a proper family tree and it would show why Luke left her on Jakku coz he new snoke had Ben already and saw Rey's power. This could also explain about Laya not knowing of Rey coz Luke senses that she contains more darkside than light maybe. So Luke would not train Rey in hopes of her not force awakening so she could never turn.
Iridale IKR but he wasn't keeping a close eye on jakku. It was tatooine cuz Palpatine wasn't informed that luke left, u just have the desert planets mixed up.
Emperors rule a monarchy. Who else rules a monarchy? Kings. What's Spanish for "king"? Rey. Hidden in plain sight. This was the first time I've seen and heard of this theory. This is quite interesting, to say the very least.
I know they seem the same, but they are different. Emperor: the ruler of an empire. Empire: a group of countries that are controlled by one ruler / government. King: the (male) ruler of an independent state / country that has a royal family. Kingdom: a country ruled by a king (or queen). Sorry to burst your bubble, but still a loose connection that could have some validity to it.
Assholes get hate. Who else gets hate? Outcasts. What's Chinese for "outcast'? Kylo Ren. Hidden in plain sight. By using arbitrary premises, deductive fallacies and sophism. I have proven Kylo Ren is an asshole. Get rekt Kylo Ren fans.
When I saw TROS for the first time and Kylo said Rey was Palpatine's granddaughter, I immediately thought of this video and said "The theories were true!"
Episode 8 ending - Luke never told you what happened to your grandfather. - He told me enough! He told me Darth Sidious killed him! - No. Darth Sidious is your grand father - No. No! That's not true! That's impossible! - Search your feelings; you know it to be true! - NOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOO!!!
Vunier DJI Phantom canon - means what happened in current star wars universe. Expanded Universe/Legends - the stories exists, but they've never happened in SW universe
TheEdgyOnion nah it's been done. Kylo coming back to the light would be a better story. It's actually quite interesting if Rey is Palpatine's descendent. Kind of the opposite of Eps 1-3, a descendent of Palpatine bringing a descendent of Anakin Skywalker back to the light.
i love this theory. BUT, do u think its almost inherently too late for the plot considering he just killed Han. It seems like the jump to try to become evil by killing Han is SO big, I'm not sure that a movie or two after they could successfully bring him to the light without it being really shaky. BUT it would be cool. I just think there are so many moving parts that they have to make everyone A LOT more interesting than they were in Ep. 7 so its gunna be really interesting to see how they navigated Ep. 8 to clear up some of this.
No, I still liked Darth Menace (Jar Jar) theory better. Still good though. I really hope this turns out to be true. It'll at least redeem the Mary Sue (Rey) with this character background.
Dave Woloschak Luke definitely wasn't like that. Luke had character flaws. Luke had trial and error with the lightsabre training. He progressed slowly with the force, remember the wampa cave? Rey Jedi mind tricked, force wielded with precision in her first attempts.
I'm taking specifically about episode 4. Where he has never flown a ship ever in his life and he immediately Flys an xwing just as good if not better then guys who have been flying them for years. He's able to force guide the torpedoes into the exhaust vent with zero training. And he's able to use the canons on the millennium falcon like a pro and blow imperial trained tie fighter pilots out of the sky. Same exact shit
Dave Woloschak Luke Skywalker: "I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters." Han Solo: "But who's gonna fly it, kid? You?" Luke Skywalker: "You bet I could! I'm not such a bad pilot myself" Obi-Wan: "He was the best star pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand that you've become quite a good pilot yourself. " It was well established that Luke was a good pilot in episode IV.
5:25 this is the part where I'm convinced JJ literally just took notes from this video and turned every suggestion AND refutation into part of the plot of Episode IX
Now that JJ has said that Kylo has never met Rey but has heard of her, what do you think about this? Also Rey and Kylo are clearly opposites, yin and yang, so it makes sense that her origins would be dark while his are light.
I think Hidalgo said a couple months ago that the forceback rain scene isn't that of the massacre. so is it possible that it's a vision of the future? according to leaks, kylo still has his mask so it's possible.
Looking forward to it! I definitely think the massacre is going to be looked at more closely! Expecting a lot of forceback visions in ep 8 :D Interesting about the idea that's on Jakku, totally possible! I personally don't think it's the massacre, that much is for sure!
the only way Kylo Ren could know about rey is through the knights of ren, wich there is a member of the knights of ren called Ezra Bridger......(in rebels not yet at the darkside). That's what i'm thinking that Benicio Del Toro could play an older Ezra Bridger and Rey being his daughter. But the Palpatine theory I love it
he was no longer a jedi once the jedi order was destroyed he went into hiding, whos to say he didn't find someone during that time or that Satine and him didn't hook up
I don't think this theory is in the same category as Darth Jar Jar at all. In fact I really hope this is the case, like the video said, pretty much any other lineage would just be such a yawn, making her a Palatine would make her backstory more tragic and disturbing, actually surprise some people and be a great plot development to impact the rest of the trilogy. Although it's Disney, so I doubt they will let their female role model turn sith, at least not permanently.
I think Luke is going to train her to become a Grey Jedi. So by the end of episode 8, she'll be a little bit of both light and dark. I will agree though that Disney won't have the spine to go the route of making Rey a Palpatine. They'll go with what's "safe".
To be fair she would make a much better villain if they ever wanted to make another trilogy down the line. This could well be the prequels of the Disney tale. I mean if i was them i'd want to make as many movies as i could and for that you need a REAL villain. Not that whiny lil bitch or the reject from LOTR.
Swag Dubstep精製 also, in reys force vision you can hear palpatine speak, "any jedi" and the scream he did in the force jump when he fought the four jedis in revenge of the sith
Those sound effects seemed a little bit stretched to me though. Also, I have a big question with why the lightsaber also evokes Obi-Wan's voice? And why it seems to be drawn to her? It would seem that the lightsaber would be repelled by a Palpatine.
Mr. Dialtone it's not repelled by a Palpatine because the lightsaber was Anakin's before Luke's and like we know, Anakin turned to the dark side but was initially on the light side. That's foreshadowing to the fact that Rey Palpatine will also be fist on the light side, and then turn to the dark side just like Anakin. Same can go for Luke as he almost turned to dark side when fighting against his father for the last time. He just had the strength to not turn to the dark side, which Anakin and Rey won't
Finn? But that would mean that the force-sensitivity didn't carry on from Kenobi's descendants... just cos he wields a lightsaber in two battles...(and gets his ass kicked while using it)
Kyle the bandit Mr. Mather I wouldn't invoke the wrath of an internet troll. Have you ever seen what the Internet holds? Also, you really aren't much to look at.
That's just bad writing...the writers have her hug Rey because she's the star of the movie & we're on the journey with her but in the context of the film it makes no sense at all. When you actually think about it Rey is receiving a hug from a stranger about the death of a stranger. Lol
+Bodacious Bagels The whole time Palpatine would be like "Good. Good! Now use your anger and your path to the dark side will be complete! Now, use the Lightning on me!"
Luke will train rey as obi wan did anakin. rey will be tempted by the dark side, kylo, go to the dark side, kill luke, become Darth Mutter, then hunted down and killed by Finn.....and the death star blows up again at the end, because, it's secretly always about the death star.
The prophecy that speaks of the Chosen One bringing balance to the force could be fulfilled multiple times, whenever the force is unbalanced by someone being so powerful that they can bend the force to their will rather than being guided/consumed by it like the Jedi/Sith are. So far we only have evidence of this being achieved by Darth Sidious, with Anakin being the Chosen One to stop him(eventually). Rey could be a Chosen One to stop Snoke or even another Sith with more power than Snoke that we have no evidence of yet but is revealed in the next film. This is all theory but I see nothing that disproves it as of yet.
After watching both this and the Rey Kenobi video, i am way more convinced by the latter. Similar evidence was used in both theories (which was basically saying she is *not* Lukes daughter), but the addition of the crossing of force visions (Kylo when touching Obi Wans lightsaber and Rey when touching Anakins) makes it more convincing imo. Both would make great stories though, and if done right Rey Palpatine could be way cooler. Someone being drawn to the dark side who is of pretty light-sided and someone being drawn to the light side who is of dark descent makes a great story I think. I have a few questions: Are there any mentions of Palpatine having a wife? It is certainly possible that Rey is the offspring of Obi Wan and someone related to Palpatine, did Palpatine have a Sister? Now - and I have literally no evidence at all - I think it would be a cool twist if Palpatine had a son/daughter that married Obi Wans son/daughter.
Chuuya I think Palpatine had a lot of time to make a son, the first time we see him in episode I he's already pretty old. Maybe he had a daughter/son he never knew of.
So many people here assume that Emperor Palpatine needed to have sex in order for Rey to exist. But here's the thing: isn't Emperor Palpatine the same man who created an entire army out of clones? Exactly what was there to stop him from creating younger, stronger clones of himself in order to acquire a form of immortality? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PRE-DISNEY EXPANDED UNIVERSE NOVELS! So with that having been said, here is my theory for Rey's origins: she isn't just a descendant of Palpatine, but his very own opposite-sex clone! This would explain why the force is so unnaturally strong with her. The reason why she is so young in the Sequel Trilogy is because she was cryogenically frozen (either with nitrogen or carbonite) in a cloning facility for decades. The Emperor created hundreds of younger, stronger clones (including a few opposite-sex clones, like Rey) of himself, so that when his body finally became too frail to support him, he could upload his mind into one of the clones and become a young sith lord again. None of these clones were ever intended to become their own persons. They were simply vessels for him to transplant his own mind every few decades or so. Before Palpatine could make use of Rey's body, however, he was betrayed by his own apprentice (Darth Vader) and destroyed along with the Second Death Star. Several decades later, the abandoned cloning facility was rediscovered by the New Republic, who decided to make it top secret in order to prevent imperial sympathizers from coming after the last remnants of Emperor Palpatine's legacy. Rey's body might have been the only one that was still alive at that point, the other clones having rotted away or were destroyed by crumbling architecture. The leaders of the New Republican Government (Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa Solo, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Lando Calrissian, etc.) would have gotten together one day to decide the fate of Palpatine's last remaining clone, a little girl. Someone in the room might have suggested shooting her, thereby ending the physical and political threat she posed right then and there, but I have no doubt that Luke Skywalker would have opposed that idea on moral grounds. Luke, however, would have been discouraged from training the girl to be a Jedi, as doing so would make it easy for Supreme Leader Snoke to learn of her existence and corrupt her into following the Dark Side (just as he did with Kylo Ren). Eventually, a compromise would have been made: The girl would be allowed to live, but she would be confined to a planet that was far removed from galactic civilization: Jakku. Why do you think Rey and Finn ran into Han and Chewie so quickly after fleeing from Jakku? Pure Coincidence? Considering how big a spiral galaxy normally is, there is no way that could have been the case. All those years Rey spent living on Jakku, Han and Chewie were secretly keeping tabs on her, to make sure she never fell into the hands of Kylo Ren, Snoke, or some other dark sider / imperial sympathizer. All of the major protagonists of the Original Trilogy are secretly aware of Rey's true lineage (similar to how all of the major protagonists of the Prequel Trilogy were secretly aware of the true lineage of Luke and Leia). Because here's the thing: if Rey really is a Palpatine, that wouldn't just make her a member of a family that is strong in the force, it would also make her THE RIGHTFUL HEIR TO THE IMPERIAL THRONE. No wonder the First Order want to get their hands on her, she could be the perfect figurehead for them to rally behind as they fight to reconquer the galaxy. All hail Rey! THE ONE TRUE GALACTIC EMPRESS!!!
Bruh, seriously i completely agree with you on all of this. I think at the end of episode 8 she will join the dark side after her linage has been revealed to her. Then in episode 9 she will practicing in the dark side and then kill Snoke. Then the next trilogy is about taking on Rey (a descendant of Palpatine) and Kylo (a descendent of Vader) and the new empire they have built. Finn will be the Luke of that new trilogy.
Palpatine also told Anakin that his master, Darth Plagueis could 'litterally create life' and that 'after he learned everything from him, he killed him'... so Palpatine wouldn't have to have sex to create life....
samsandoa25 SAMSANDOA25 for PRESIDENT! Bud I hope your somewhere working on your fucking screenplay because this character arch is the only one that makes resurrecting this modern day mythology worth the trouble. I found myself thinking as the credits rolled for episode 7 that the only interesting choice left for Rey is to turn to the Dark side. She was just waaaay too good at everything for essentially growing up as a "bag lady." This Palpatine theory is definitely the movie I want to see.
I just have to re-visit and comment this is one of the best Star Wars theory videos out there. Good job Vincent and you hit the nail on the head way before the sequels come out.
You make very good points. I do hope this is true though because I want Finn to be a Jedi. This theory really makes up for the overpowered Rey, since Palpatine was overpowered.
That Seems Plausible To to Me Too Except, She gets her Force heritage from Obi Wan but she doesn't appear to have an evil streeak which would come from Palpatine
Actually when fans discover that Snoke is actually Mace Windu Star Wars will never be the same. Snokes body clearly displays the Sith lightning damage Windu endures from the Emperor after Anakins betrayal.
+Vincent Vendetta a Remember according to Darth Plaugis Sith Lightning also has the ability to transform anyone subjected to it. The Emperor hit Windu with torrents of it before force pushing him out the window. Wind us body was never recovered.
+Ishaq +Vincent Lol racist? white-washing? It would be a better story than this Rey Palpatine theory IMO. And let's be honest it really is not racist at all. If anything the light skin tone would be a good way to subvert attention from him being Windu. Only a sensitive person would get offended by something like that. Black peoples feelings don't need to be a pivotal point of influence in how every movie is made, because frankly not all Black people feel the same, and you can't please everybody. People who actually have problems with this kind of stuff are truly in the minority, but they are the most vocal, so this nitpicking is injected into a lot of media which is where you hear most of it. Anyways /rant off. This is the first time I've heard about this Windu theory and I think it's brilliant considering how he was one of the few practitioners of Vaapad, which was an extremely aggressive saber style that bordered on the dark side. It also would explain why he undermined Luke's Jedi Temple (perhaps out of spite), and is essentially using Kylo (A descendant of Anakin) as a tool to wipe out the rest of his own Ancestral line. one can only dream though. I bet we'll all drop our jaws when we find out that he's just a big new baddie all together, with no correlation to anyone:( Please god anything but that
I love this theory, (I noticed the fighting style straight away when saw it in the cinema)and totally see role reversals of some kind here, Ren will redeem himself and Rey will succumb to the Dark Side, there even hints that Luke will in some way change, and in a way Mark Hamill wasn't all too keen on...can't wait to see how this all pans out.
***** that's the theory they expect us to believe, like the old theory that jar jar was kylo ren omg I remember that mess 😂 but the boom is that she has Palpatine's blood, how great is that and you can see more believable proof that she's a Palpatine in this video
And, Luke I was young enough to be Palpatine's grandson, and Reille is ypung enough to be Luke's daughter or granddaughter. Wouldn't that make her a great-granddaughter or great-great-granddaughter? Unless Palpatine had her mother/father at an old age...
Jspro says the person who announced " I absolutely believed she wouldn't be a Skywalker" lol. but i agree I don't think she is a Skywalker but it's a possibility.
I heard a little girl in the cinema say 'That's Luke...?' when Luke Skywalker was revealed in "Star Wars VIII: The Force Awakens", as if she was Underwhelmed by what Luke looked like...
laughable and understandable, EVERY Star Wars fan makes Luke out to be this "all powerful and great master Jedi" (I don't see it though) and then in TFA he looks like a guy who complains about taxes so kinda understandable XD
What if she's his granddaughter and her mother is captain phasma and her farther is Luke. As this could relate to Mara jade Skywalker as she was the one of the emperors hands
I had this theory about a week after the movie came out. In the Visual dictionary is says that Phasma's armor is from Palpatine's personal Naboo shuttle.
sorry for the autism on the comment i was typing on my shit phone, what i meant by this is that she hasn't been trained to use a lightsaber so she uses it how someone with no training would use it in stabbing and forward thrusting. hopefully i cleared things up with this comment and i hope you understand what i mean.
I was totally on-board with the Rey Kenobi theory until Daisy Ridley hinted in an interview that Rey would be "injured emotionally" when she learned of her origins... I don't know why that would be the case if she was the granddaughter of Obi Wan... but with this theory it actually makes a lot of sense why that reveal would devastate her
Like your posts. May not agree with everything you say, but what impresses me is that you put effort and thought into your work. That's something that everyone should aspire to.
What if Luke had a child with Palpatine's daughter, and that child was named Rey. That makes her the grand daughter of Darth Vader AND Darth Sidious. Wut??!!
that would mean that during the events of clone wars and revenge of the sith, palpatine was making babies... that's a kind of a stretch don't you think? :p maybe make it granddaughter and Rey is then great-granddaughter
Personally I think Rey is Luke's daughter and Palpatines grand daughter. I read that in a book the daughter of Palpatine was one of his Shadow guard who also was a sith Assassin. It is known that the Guard used Pike Staffs that looks fairly similar to Rey's staff. I going out on a leap here but i am assuming rey will eventually make her light saber either double ended or pike staff like. The Story goes that Palpatine told his daughter to Assasinate Luke if he couldn't make him his apprentice and was killed. What I am thinking is that Ben Solo had a twin and Luke was making his new Jedi's and he took ben solo and his twin out for a training mission. This is when Palpatines assassin daughter tries to kill luke... She knocks him down and ben and his twin are forced to save luke. This leads to Bens twin dying just as luke regains his whits and defeats Palpatines daughter. Luke finds the young Palpatine to be extremely beautiful and instead of killing her he attempts to convert her to the light side. This is where ben solo who is guilt stricken that his twin is dead and the person who killed them is now Lukes secret lover. Its easy to see how Ben Solo could now be manipulated by Snoke to turn on the Jedi and form the Knights of Ren. At some point during all this Luke and Palpatines daughter have their own daughter i.e. Rey. They then make the plan to leave Rey on Jakku with Lor San Tekka watching over her much like Ben Kenobi did for Luke. Not too long after Palpatines daughter leaves Rey on jakku that Ben Kenobi now Kelo Ren catches up with her and kills her in a duel thus getting revenge for his twins demise all those years ago.
hmm they are going to make a Obi-wan solo movie... that would be epic... I would not mind either but IMO Luke was much older when he trained then Obi-wan... so if either ended up having kids i think it would be more luke then obi-wan especially after he saw what having kids did to his best friend. AS you said its no big surprise that Rey is Lukes daughter but it will be a bit surprise to the audience when we find out that she is also Palpatines grand daughter... Maybe this is why Leia and Rey embrace like they are family even though its the first time either has met as they can feel via the force that somehow they are family though they dont know the direct connection just yet.
I thought the same about the double sided lightsaber based on her staff and the way it's positioned on the poster directly in front of Kylo's almost like it's double sided
end of episode 8. Rey, your parent left you one gift. she opens a box, and finds a small red crystal pyramid, she touches it and a projection of Emperor Palpatine appears above it "Rey.... I am your father.... this is my sith holocron, it contains all of the cumulative knowledge of this sith, use it to fulfill your destiny, and take your rightfull place in the Galaxy (soft evil laugh). FYI episode 9 will be called return of the sith
Ok good theory, but who would actually bone darth sidious lol If Rey has connections with Palpatine its more likely for her to be a genetic experiment or to be conceived by the force like Anakin But both of those things don't really seem like things Disney would put in their films...
Could have been before Palpatine turned to the Dark Side. His family was a noble family of Naboo and it would not be hard to imagine that he probably fathered a child in his younger years.
Kaat Brackeniers "the dark side of force is a pathway to many abilities most consider to be unnatural" Palpatine whispered that into some girls ear and..there you go lol
Obviously. You learn your accent from your environment, no matter your lineage. However in this case, the accent similarity adds a facet to the story, and one you might realise unconciously. If this theory turns out to be true, im loving that subtle clue
Star wars is all about subtle clues. Take the phantom menace for example. Where yoda and windu had a conversation at the end and are saying to each other that there is a master and a pupil. And when they wonder who it was palpatine is on screen. That was a very subtle hint of palpatine being darth sidious. And there are more examples of that so yeah a subtle hint like that could very well be something they did here.
She was old enough to probably have picked up the accent from someone in the family and just didn't lose it. But you're right. For all we know she just got the accent talking to that Sean Penn rations portions guy.
ranwolf76 I think the point they are trying to make is that it's supposed to be a hint. They both were English accents. I get what your saying and obviously it's true but idk if that's exactly what they are saying.
Ferenc Szaffenauer I do not want her to be a skywalker, I would be pretty content if obi wan was her grandfather, but I would be amazed if she was related to palpatine
It actually made a lot of sense that snoke wants to see her, because if your theory about Mace Windu is snoke is true then he could want to either get revenge on Palpatine by taking out who could be his granddaughter.
Palpatine is old enough to be Anakin's grandpa or an uncle who is 10 years older than his mom. Palpatine's daughter would be at least older than Anakin, so Luke, Anakins son won't be banging someone at least 30 years his senior by the end of Jedi.
He didn't say they were inherited traits. He was drawing parallels between the two characters like many writers would do to give subtle clues of their relationship.
true he doesn't outright say it's inherited but what does an accent have to do with drawing parallels between the two characters? Obi-wan had an English accent, as did Grand Moff Tarkin (any imperial officer really), Mon Mothma, General Hux, Supreme Leader Snoke, C-3PO, Lor San Tekka, Captain Phasma.....are they all a part of some kind of 'relationship'?
+Vincent Vendetta. your an idiot plagius and bane are some of the most powerfull sith to live read the books then talk about star wars by the way their are 6 or 7 Skywalkers in the new republic books idiot. i read most of the new and old books idiot Disney should have followed the book ben solo in the books is ben Skywalker jacen solo is a sith giana solo is a jedi and her brther anikan solo is sent to get him
Man he knew that Rey is palp’s grand daughter before JJ knew it
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lmao. I remember watching this theory years ago then when ros came out i was like “I KNEW THAT!”
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I know right
When will thet guy will vincent post another vid
The voice in her head saying "Kill him". Very reminiscent of Palpatine tempting Anakin to kill Dooku. "Do it"
jojox1733 before he said do it Palpatine said kill him
Even later Palpatine told Luke to kill Vader
Correction, *dew it*
Dew it**
Somehow this is true, now just wait until Lord Jar Jar becomes real
He was confirmed like 8 years ago
@@MrCichyPlayboywait actually?
@@Lanez.Editz_01 Yep, this was the Original Concept
"He can see things before they happen, it's a jedi trait."
This would make the best plot ever....
Honestly. But I also think it would make Star Wars films a mindfuck films as well.
I'd be cool with that, a lot of EU stories (especially those from Legends) do that anyway.
love how 7 years ago everyone is positive about it but when it actually happens everyone hates it
@@ferociousrazordino3581tbf I think Rey Palpatine wasn't overly hated (some people don't like that palps had a baby but I think most are fine with it). What's hated is bringing Palpatine back with no explanation lol
The only thing that would've made it more obvious would be if the voice in Rey's head had said "Do it". And you all just read that in Palpatine's voice too so you know I'm right lmao
ALSO The Jedi Order fell. If Luke created a New Jedi Temple then maybe he didn't make that a rule since he was so close with Leia and Han
yup...yes I did xD it was by accident as well I didn't even plan on it hahahah
A sly one you are haahaha
Doooo iiiiit xD
Do you mean the marriage rule under jedi? Cause Leia wasn't a jedi
This actually aged pretty well
Yeah but not on purpose.
It aged like blue milk
Unlike most of the fan theories out there, this one actually does make some sense if you really think about it... and this would actually make a great twist in the overall story. Well done.
When Rey has Kylo Ren down on the ground she hears a voice in her head "dew it!"
Hahahahaha oh noooooo!
There's a video of that on loop for like an hour in UA-cam.
I thought it says, "U can do it!!!"
Game Grumps anyone?
Just do it
This is the first Rey theory that hasn't made me roll my eyes. Hell, they both even make the same angry teeth grinding face when they fight. Great video.
nah that's not true. When they make the stab, Rey looks angry, while Palpatine looks more like he is really looking forward, to stab the shit out of Mace Windu xD
TJ Hastie but this doesnt explain why shes so good with a blaster and ship mechanics I think she has to have some solo in her
Oh wow, looking angry while fighting, that proves everything.....
Do we know anything about Han's parents?
yea, look up a skywalker family tree
Why the hell am I watching these theory videos? If they are true, they spoil the movies. Yet I can't stop. Why is my brain like this?
Budred123 because it's cooool asg
Budred123 ...to scream "FUCK YEAH I KNEW IT" in the cinema!
It's not spoiling if we don't know it's true
Jason Jungreis It is spoiling if it does turn out to be true.
lol I hear you.
I like this theory way better than the Kenobi theory
Me too, it makes for more conflict too... Perhaps palpatine used midiclorians just as his master did or he was afraid vader was going to turn on him (as he planned after he recruited luke)... I picked up on Rey being sinister during that fight scene & that Ren seems awfully fond of recruiting her (missed the other points though)
Yes since I saw a Star Wars rebels episode where Sabine meets her father, which is not obi wan. But that still doesn’t mean that Rey is still not the granddaughter of obi wan and duchess satine.
can you imagine snoke being windu, jar jar being plagueis, Rey being a Palpatin and Finn being Windu´s son. damn
André Fortin too many plot twists would ruin the trilogy if you ask me...
André Fortin Han, old buddy!!
I would sooooo geek the fuck out of that is true
André Fortin yes I can imagine that.
Finn wouldnt be Windu's son.... windu probably was so into the jedi order that he never wouldve fallen in love
This is mind blowing!!! Please Make more Star Wars theory's!
Vincent Vendetta are you joking
Vincent Vendetta You scared ne you've got a new sub :)
Vincent Vendetta yo isn't Ray like 20 but the movie is 30 years after the the fall of the empire how would this be possible
Vincent Vendetta then who's is the grandmother???
Vincent Vendetta who is her parents though we aren't told of palpatine having a wife or children so how can Rey be a palpatine if there's a missing link between the 2 it seems to go: Palpatine
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But if she was Luke's daughter she would still have darkside and there's a proper family tree and it would show why Luke left her on Jakku coz he new snoke had Ben already and saw Rey's power. This could also explain about Laya not knowing of Rey coz Luke senses that she contains more darkside than light maybe. So Luke would not train Rey in hopes of her not force awakening so she could never turn.
Does anyone recognize that Palpatine also told Anakin to kill Dooku with these exact two words.
Tobito TV yeah
Kill him, Kill him now.
DEW IT
Tobito TV yes if you listen closely to when she touches light saber you will Pallantine talking about Jedi
Alexandru Tanase ?
Alexandru Tanase Ah. Ok
Palpatine had an important observatory on Jakku.
With his clones and they studied immorality. In the books they attack because if the outpost.
Iridale IKR but he wasn't keeping a close eye on jakku. It was tatooine cuz Palpatine wasn't informed that luke left, u just have the desert planets mixed up.
If only the voice in her head said "dew eet" in the novel...
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If you realised you were raising Hitler's kid, you'd dump it on a remote planet as well.
Lol!
Um, Rey's parents would be "Hitler's kid" if she is Palpatine's granddaughter.
haggai samuelson I'd kill it
haggai samuelson just because you have evil parents doesn't mean that's your fate...
Chelsea Peterson but its palpatine lol
Emperors rule a monarchy.
Who else rules a monarchy? Kings.
What's Spanish for "king"? Rey.
Hidden in plain sight.
This was the first time I've seen and heard of this theory. This is quite interesting, to say the very least.
Emperors rule an empire
Though I see where you are coming from
+Ajakel Hihi you don't have to have an empire to be an emperor it is a type of monarchy
I know they seem the same, but they are different.
Emperor: the ruler of an empire.
Empire: a group of countries that are controlled by one ruler / government.
King: the (male) ruler of an independent state / country that has a royal family.
Kingdom: a country ruled by a king (or queen).
Sorry to burst your bubble, but still a loose connection that could have some validity to it.
Assholes get hate.
Who else gets hate? Outcasts.
What's Chinese for "outcast'? Kylo Ren.
Hidden in plain sight.
By using arbitrary premises, deductive fallacies and sophism. I have proven Kylo Ren is an asshole. Get rekt Kylo Ren fans.
When I saw TROS for the first time and Kylo said Rey was Palpatine's granddaughter, I immediately thought of this video and said "The theories were true!"
Episode 8 ending
- Luke never told you what happened to your grandfather.
- He told me enough! He told me Darth Sidious killed him!
- No. Darth Sidious is your grand father
- No. No! That's not true! That's impossible!
- Search your feelings; you know it to be true!
- NOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOO!!!
I hope that happens just because
Then who is Rey's mother?
Jarod Casano True tho. The real question.
what does "canon" mean? like when you said canon starwars novel?
Vunier DJI Phantom canon - means what happened in current star wars universe.
Expanded Universe/Legends - the stories exists, but they've never happened in SW universe
Am I the only one that kind of WANTS Rey to turn to the dark side?
TheEdgyOnion nah it's been done. Kylo coming back to the light would be a better story. It's actually quite interesting if Rey is Palpatine's descendent. Kind of the opposite of Eps 1-3, a descendent of Palpatine bringing a descendent of Anakin Skywalker back to the light.
i love this theory. BUT, do u think its almost inherently too late for the plot considering he just killed Han. It seems like the jump to try to become evil by killing Han is SO big, I'm not sure that a movie or two after they could successfully bring him to the light without it being really shaky. BUT it would be cool. I just think there are so many moving parts that they have to make everyone A LOT more interesting than they were in Ep. 7 so its gunna be really interesting to see how they navigated Ep. 8 to clear up some of this.
Paul Kuhnle I think it would be pretty cool if Rey turned to the dark side, and have to face off against Finn, who is rumored to have force abilities
no.
I want Rey to turn to the Darkside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the best theory i've ever heard. For real !!!
me too
the theory is shit
why dude ?
because he never had any off spring
but how can we know ?
I think JJ was planning on making Rey be Luke's Daughter but decided not to after watching this video and made her Palpatine instead.
Hey it would've been better if she was a Skywalker if you ask me!
Rey would never be a skywalker, she shouldn’t even be aloud to hold a lightsaber.
Best explanation of this theory I've seen.
No, I still liked Darth Menace (Jar Jar) theory better. Still good though. I really hope this turns out to be true. It'll at least redeem the Mary Sue (Rey) with this character background.
+Igor Ivanov I don't get this Mary sue shit. Luke was the exact same in NH but every fanboy in the world holds that movie up like it's the bible
Dave Woloschak
Luke definitely wasn't like that. Luke had character flaws. Luke had trial and error with the lightsabre training. He progressed slowly with the force, remember the wampa cave?
Rey Jedi mind tricked, force wielded with precision in her first attempts.
I'm taking specifically about episode 4. Where he has never flown a ship ever in his life and he immediately Flys an xwing just as good if not better then guys who have been flying them for years. He's able to force guide the torpedoes into the exhaust vent with zero training. And he's able to use the canons on the millennium falcon like a pro and blow imperial trained tie fighter pilots out of the sky. Same exact shit
Dave Woloschak
Luke Skywalker: "I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters."
Han Solo: "But who's gonna fly it, kid? You?"
Luke Skywalker: "You bet I could! I'm not such a bad pilot myself"
Obi-Wan: "He was the best star pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand that you've become quite a good pilot yourself. "
It was well established that Luke was a good pilot in episode IV.
The whole "Luke is her father" concept is bs, seeing as JJ literally said her parents were NOT in Episode 7, and Luke was, well, in episode 7.
Abi Wilson but does he mean seeing the character or does hearing it count. Because you hear obi wan, palpatine, and yoda in the vision.
JJ also later qualified this saying: "“What I meant was that she doesn’t discover them in Episode VII. Not that they may not already be in her world.”
For like three seconds
5:25 this is the part where I'm convinced JJ literally just took notes from this video and turned every suggestion AND refutation into part of the plot of Episode IX
I am buying in %100, this make the most sense so far. good theory
Awesome breakdown of a pretty sweet theory! Way cooler than her simply being Luke's daughter (which is the worst idea since Greedo shooting first).
Nope
Too bad she'll be Luke's daughter.
+PubliusAfricanus finally somebody who makes sense
Kenji B Haha, as if that hasn't been a runaway as the most popular theory?
Loud Guy Media It's a guaranteed fact.
Sees title-"Nah there's no way" after video-"Well shit"
same here lol
Same...
same lol
Theres really no evidence tbh.
+The HoloNet This^
“Shoot lighting out her hands” yeah that aged well too
This is where JJ got the idea for his script
God damnit, I want her to be Obi wan's granddaughter :/
M.T.P thatd be cool but it wouldnt explain why Rey is so naturally powerful, the emperor always had a natural affinity towards the force
so did Anakin. shes also very similar to anakin
I think that that theory is better. Just watched that video and then this. But it will be cool either way:)
M.T.P Maybe Palpatine and Kenobi hooked up at some point and adopted a child.
Yay diversity.
Kenobi hooked up with Palpatine's daughter!
Now that JJ has said that Kylo has never met Rey but has heard of her, what do you think about this?
Also Rey and Kylo are clearly opposites, yin and yang, so it makes sense that her origins would be dark while his are light.
I think Hidalgo said a couple months ago that the forceback rain scene isn't that of the massacre. so is it possible that it's a vision of the future? according to leaks, kylo still has his mask so it's possible.
Looking forward to it! I definitely think the massacre is going to be looked at more closely! Expecting a lot of forceback visions in ep 8 :D Interesting about the idea that's on Jakku, totally possible! I personally don't think it's the massacre, that much is for sure!
the only way Kylo Ren could know about rey is through the knights of ren, wich there is a member of the knights of ren called Ezra Bridger......(in rebels not yet at the darkside). That's what i'm thinking that Benicio Del Toro could play an older Ezra Bridger and Rey being his daughter. But the Palpatine theory I love it
Sakura ThornSickle could still work, he might have never met her at the jedi academy tbh
Well, actually... Yin is the feminine and negative principle, while Yang is the masculine or positive principle.
I believe that Rey is either a Palpatine or a Kenobi
maybe both?
No way a Kenobi , Obi Wan went the pure Jedi way... Except Satine
he was no longer a jedi once the jedi order was destroyed he went into hiding, whos to say he didn't find someone during that time or that Satine and him didn't hook up
Sidious and Obi wan hooking up? not a pretty sight
I don't think this theory is in the same category as Darth Jar Jar at all. In fact I really hope this is the case, like the video said, pretty much any other lineage would just be such a yawn, making her a Palatine would make her backstory more tragic and disturbing, actually surprise some people and be a great plot development to impact the rest of the trilogy. Although it's Disney, so I doubt they will let their female role model turn sith, at least not permanently.
I think Luke is going to train her to become a Grey Jedi. So by the end of episode 8, she'll be a little bit of both light and dark. I will agree though that Disney won't have the spine to go the route of making Rey a Palpatine. They'll go with what's "safe".
Palpatine
To be fair she would make a much better villain if they ever wanted to make another trilogy down the line. This could well be the prequels of the Disney tale. I mean if i was them i'd want to make as many movies as i could and for that you need a REAL villain. Not that whiny lil bitch or the reject from LOTR.
this is so false and here's why... Rei never used the aarraahhhgg spin
Swag Dubstep精製 wtf, thats your only reason, lmao
Swag Dubstep精製 also, in reys force vision you can hear palpatine speak, "any jedi" and the scream he did in the force jump when he fought the four jedis in revenge of the sith
Those sound effects seemed a little bit stretched to me though. Also, I have a big question with why the lightsaber also evokes Obi-Wan's voice? And why it seems to be drawn to her? It would seem that the lightsaber would be repelled by a Palpatine.
Mr. Dialtone it's not repelled by a Palpatine because the lightsaber was Anakin's before Luke's and like we know, Anakin turned to the dark side but was initially on the light side. That's foreshadowing to the fact that Rey Palpatine will also be fist on the light side, and then turn to the dark side just like Anakin. Same can go for Luke as he almost turned to dark side when fighting against his father for the last time. He just had the strength to not turn to the dark side, which Anakin and Rey won't
Aleksi Kulmala .... *gasp* noooooooooo, I'll be so upset if Rey goes dark... but it could be interesting as well. Who knows.
Fingers crossed this turns out to be true, would be amazing
Daniel Blake-Morrets yaaasss
This would be a better backstory for Rey explaining as to why she is a Mary Sue in the first movie. I so want her to be a Kenobi or a Palpatine.
It would be a pretty amazing and shocking reveal but I highly doubt this would be the case, especially after watching the last jedi
It’s your lucky day isn’t it
This aged well
This is a solid theory, so is the kenobi one
Simen Ankervold So i guess she is both😊
Simen Ankervold I believe she's a kenobi
SirEpicCheese she is a palpatine and finn is a kenobi?
Finn? But that would mean that the force-sensitivity didn't carry on from Kenobi's descendants... just cos he wields a lightsaber in two battles...(and gets his ass kicked while using it)
Jesus Christ it's not Obiwan
the best theory ive heard yet
Chris OConnor second best. Check out the mace windu one that one blows my mind
Rey would be way hotter if she was evil.
Rey, the character is 15......so do with that what you will.
+Bluebucket The actor is not so we will do as we please.
ANarcher Yeah but who would be hotter daisy ridley or Rey
+Bluebucket Lol went from character is 15 to who would be hotter.
ANarcher no wanted to spot the pedos, or people under 18/16
I'm with you on this I'm sick of people saying ray is Luke Skywalker's daughter.
That dumbass can't even spell lol its REY
Go crawl back in your mum you bitch
Your not worth the time of day
Kyle Mather Good build up your critical thinking skills after you actually build some muscles lul
Kyle the bandit Mr. Mather I wouldn't invoke the wrath of an internet troll. Have you ever seen what the Internet holds? Also, you really aren't much to look at.
Princess Leia is SO stupid when Kylo killed Han. Princess Leia went and hugged REY instead of chewie.
I won't hurt you I'll just kill you because rey is her daughter. she didnt believe her son (actually reys twin) killed their father.
That's just bad writing...the writers have her hug Rey because she's the star of the movie & we're on the journey with her but in the context of the film it makes no sense at all. When you actually think about it Rey is receiving a hug from a stranger about the death of a stranger. Lol
I won't hurt you I'll just kill you maybe she needed a hug and try was closest
Fan Chan exactly!
Fan Chan I just don't think anyone should talk shit about Leia
I LOVE THIS PLOT!!!!! Shows why Rey is so powerful without ever using the force prior. I really hope she is Palpatine goes grey!!! WOOT I love it!
In other words, Palps got laid
Lmfao
+Bodacious Bagels The whole time Palpatine would be like "Good. Good! Now use your anger and your path to the dark side will be complete! Now, use the Lightning on me!"
+CommanderKaiser kinky
"I am defenseless. Strike me down with all of your hatred!"
Yes XD
Luke will train rey as obi wan did anakin. rey will be tempted by the dark side, kylo, go to the dark side, kill luke, become Darth Mutter, then hunted down and killed by Finn.....and the death star blows up again at the end, because, it's secretly always about the death star.
lol
Rofl
+SkyTech RTS lol
hilyfe01 lmao
You laugh now but how the first movie turned out , i would not be surprised...
I also think it's possible that she's a spontaneous manifestation of the force like Anakin.
Same it's gotta be either this idea or the palpatine one or maybe she really is Luke's daughter...
AyyItsTaco indeed.. i think this theory makes more sense than mine.
The prophecy that speaks of the Chosen One bringing balance to the force could be fulfilled multiple times, whenever the force is unbalanced by someone being so powerful that they can bend the force to their will rather than being guided/consumed by it like the Jedi/Sith are. So far we only have evidence of this being achieved by Darth Sidious, with Anakin being the Chosen One to stop him(eventually). Rey could be a Chosen One to stop Snoke or even another Sith with more power than Snoke that we have no evidence of yet but is revealed in the next film. This is all theory but I see nothing that disproves it as of yet.
Anakin was not a manifestation of the force, it was either a Darth Plaeguis experiment or a response triggered on the force by Darth Plaeguis
Now this makes more sense to me
Well............this video has certainly aged well.
If Rey is a palpatine and snoke is plagueis, this could end up being amazing.
yuoke I believe Snoke is actually Mace Windu. Think about it
yuoke nooooooo
After watching both this and the Rey Kenobi video, i am way more convinced by the latter.
Similar evidence was used in both theories (which was basically saying she is *not* Lukes daughter), but the addition of the crossing of force visions (Kylo when touching Obi Wans lightsaber and Rey when touching Anakins) makes it more convincing imo.
Both would make great stories though, and if done right Rey Palpatine could be way cooler.
Someone being drawn to the dark side who is of pretty light-sided and someone being drawn to the light side who is of dark descent makes a great story I think.
I have a few questions:
Are there any mentions of Palpatine having a wife?
It is certainly possible that Rey is the offspring of Obi Wan and someone related to Palpatine, did Palpatine have a Sister?
Now - and I have literally no evidence at all - I think it would be a cool twist if Palpatine had a son/daughter that married Obi Wans son/daughter.
Rey could be the clone of Palpatine.
Chuuya I think Palpatine had a lot of time to make a son, the first time we see him in episode I he's already pretty old. Maybe he had a daughter/son he never knew of.
Yea I think the kenobi theory is better.
Bro, actually predicted pretty well
So many people here assume that Emperor Palpatine needed to have sex in order for Rey to exist. But here's the thing: isn't Emperor Palpatine the same man who created an entire army out of clones? Exactly what was there to stop him from creating younger, stronger clones of himself in order to acquire a form of immortality? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PRE-DISNEY EXPANDED UNIVERSE NOVELS!
So with that having been said, here is my theory for Rey's origins: she isn't just a descendant of Palpatine, but his very own opposite-sex clone! This would explain why the force is so unnaturally strong with her. The reason why she is so young in the Sequel Trilogy is because she was cryogenically frozen (either with nitrogen or carbonite) in a cloning facility for decades. The Emperor created hundreds of younger, stronger clones (including a few opposite-sex clones, like Rey) of himself, so that when his body finally became too frail to support him, he could upload his mind into one of the clones and become a young sith lord again. None of these clones were ever intended to become their own persons. They were simply vessels for him to transplant his own mind every few decades or so.
Before Palpatine could make use of Rey's body, however, he was betrayed by his own apprentice (Darth Vader) and destroyed along with the Second Death Star. Several decades later, the abandoned cloning facility was rediscovered by the New Republic, who decided to make it top secret in order to prevent imperial sympathizers from coming after the last remnants of Emperor Palpatine's legacy. Rey's body might have been the only one that was still alive at that point, the other clones having rotted away or were destroyed by crumbling architecture.
The leaders of the New Republican Government (Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa Solo, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Lando Calrissian, etc.) would have gotten together one day to decide the fate of Palpatine's last remaining clone, a little girl. Someone in the room might have suggested shooting her, thereby ending the physical and political threat she posed right then and there, but I have no doubt that Luke Skywalker would have opposed that idea on moral grounds. Luke, however, would have been discouraged from training the girl to be a Jedi, as doing so would make it easy for Supreme Leader Snoke to learn of her existence and corrupt her into following the Dark Side (just as he did with Kylo Ren). Eventually, a compromise would have been made: The girl would be allowed to live, but she would be confined to a planet that was far removed from galactic civilization: Jakku.
Why do you think Rey and Finn ran into Han and Chewie so quickly after fleeing from Jakku? Pure Coincidence? Considering how big a spiral galaxy normally is, there is no way that could have been the case. All those years Rey spent living on Jakku, Han and Chewie were secretly keeping tabs on her, to make sure she never fell into the hands of Kylo Ren, Snoke, or some other dark sider / imperial sympathizer. All of the major protagonists of the Original Trilogy are secretly aware of Rey's true lineage (similar to how all of the major protagonists of the Prequel Trilogy were secretly aware of the true lineage of Luke and Leia).
Because here's the thing: if Rey really is a Palpatine, that wouldn't just make her a member of a family that is strong in the force, it would also make her THE RIGHTFUL HEIR TO THE IMPERIAL THRONE. No wonder the First Order want to get their hands on her, she could be the perfect figurehead for them to rally behind as they fight to reconquer the galaxy. All hail Rey! THE ONE TRUE GALACTIC EMPRESS!!!
Bruh, seriously i completely agree with you on all of this. I think at the end of episode 8 she will join the dark side after her linage has been revealed to her. Then in episode 9 she will practicing in the dark side and then kill Snoke. Then the next trilogy is about taking on Rey (a descendant of Palpatine) and Kylo (a descendent of Vader) and the new empire they have built. Finn will be the Luke of that new trilogy.
Palpatine also told Anakin that his master, Darth Plagueis could 'litterally create life' and that 'after he learned everything from him, he killed him'... so Palpatine wouldn't have to have sex to create life....
... even with Jar Jar LOLS
samsandoa25 SAMSANDOA25 for PRESIDENT! Bud I hope your somewhere working on your fucking screenplay because this character arch is the only one that makes resurrecting this modern day mythology worth the trouble. I found myself thinking as the credits rolled for episode 7 that the only interesting choice left for Rey is to turn to the Dark side. She was just waaaay too good at everything for essentially growing up as a "bag lady." This Palpatine theory is definitely the movie I want to see.
Love this theory.I hope its true.Its gonna be even more epic
Plot twist: R2D2 is the father of Rey.Yes its true. I know, im a genius.
BlueGum 😐
BlueGum think I need to process this for a minute... Although R2-D2 did seem excited to see her...
BlueGum 😂😂😂
BlueGum Wait how could R2 D2 GET IT ON FAN THOREY
Hahaha
I remember when this video came and man its aged well
I just have to re-visit and comment this is one of the best Star Wars theory videos out there. Good job Vincent and you hit the nail on the head way before the sequels come out.
1:22 This aged so incredibly well. I love what we got out of these movies, despite what many others say.
"It's like poetry; it rhymes."
You make very good points. I do hope this is true though because I want Finn to be a Jedi. This theory really makes up for the overpowered Rey, since Palpatine was overpowered.
This is a good way to reintroduce Mace. Luke is dead and Finn needs a master after all.
Or the force ghost of Anakin helps Kylo return to the light, because this is the only reason to put Anakin into the next movie.
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Me as well. Thank you, Perri and the Outlaw.
Same here lol
same
Thanks for uploading this video. I believe in this theory 100%.
Rey could be a descendant of Palpatine and Kenobi....
alex anderson exactly in my thoughts!
Mother a daughter of Obi Wan Kenobi. Father a son of Palpatine. Makes too much sense to be honest.
alex anderson Plot twist: Palpatine had a Josef Fritzl like dungeon and got Obi Wan's daughter in there and... well.. yeah
That Seems Plausible To to Me Too Except, She gets her Force heritage from Obi Wan but she doesn't appear to have an evil streeak which would come from Palpatine
it would make sense of why she has a pull to the dark side but ultimately chooses the light.
Kylo Ren will become the heroe and Rey the villain. That's the plot twist, guys!
That would be so good but so bad!
I'd say Kylo Ren either takes revenge on Snoke or teams with Rey
That would truly be awesome.
I don't think they have the balls tbh. Especially since Kylo killed Han.
Darth Plagius
Actually when fans discover that Snoke is actually Mace Windu Star Wars will never be the same. Snokes body clearly displays the Sith lightning damage Windu endures from the Emperor after Anakins betrayal.
+Vincent Vendetta a Remember according to Darth Plaugis Sith Lightning also has the ability to transform anyone subjected to it. The Emperor hit Windu with torrents of it before force pushing him out the window. Wind us body was never recovered.
+Ishaq +Vincent Lol racist? white-washing? It would be a better story than this Rey Palpatine theory IMO. And let's be honest it really is not racist at all. If anything the light skin tone would be a good way to subvert attention from him being Windu.
Only a sensitive person would get offended by something like that. Black peoples feelings don't need to be a pivotal point of influence in how every movie is made, because frankly not all Black people feel the same, and you can't please everybody.
People who actually have problems with this kind of stuff are truly in the minority, but they are the most vocal, so this nitpicking is injected into a lot of media which is where you hear most of it.
Anyways /rant off.
This is the first time I've heard about this Windu theory and I think it's brilliant considering how he was one of the few practitioners of Vaapad, which was an extremely aggressive saber style that bordered on the dark side.
It also would explain why he undermined Luke's Jedi Temple (perhaps out of spite), and is essentially using Kylo (A descendant of Anakin) as a tool to wipe out the rest of his own Ancestral line.
one can only dream though. I bet we'll all drop our jaws when we find out that he's just a big new baddie all together, with no correlation to anyone:( Please god anything but that
Michael Jackson all over again! ''Ohh not my nose, not again'',says Snoke and cries!
+Ishaq Rogers -- yeah cherry pick 99℅ legends on one thing to be canon just have 1℅ change that is original.
"I am sick of these motha' fuckin' Jedis on my motha' fuckin' base!"
I love this theory, (I noticed the fighting style straight away when saw it in the cinema)and totally see role reversals of some kind here, Ren will redeem himself and Rey will succumb to the Dark Side, there even hints that Luke will in some way change, and in a way Mark Hamill wasn't all too keen on...can't wait to see how this all pans out.
As Kylo is a Vader wannabe, the force ghost of Anakin is the only one that can help him.
I had to watch it twice to fully absorb every info. A Very accurate fan theory.
Holy FUCK! man
this theory makes soo much sense!
***** that's the theory they expect us to believe, like the old theory that jar jar was kylo ren omg I remember that mess 😂
but the boom is that she has Palpatine's blood, how great is that
and you can see more believable proof that she's a Palpatine in this video
Bry 'n Yes but if Luke is Reys dad, the story sucks. It shouldn't be that predictable.
Chris Vizsla I think that it makes more sense for Rey to to be a Kenobi.
Rey is palpatine and jar jar binks daughter
wat ?
will people stop it with Jar Jar Binks, he was one of my pawns nothing more.
Jar Jar raped Palpatine
Robbin' Hood (slowly raises hands, and uses force lighting)
Robin Hood: The offspring was Snoke
Aftermath Empire's End - shines a little more "light" on this theory! Cool video!
Well…… she shot lightning out her fingers.
Palpating was in her head like "DO IT"
Dew it
Blew it
Screw it
Spew It
Jew it
I want this to be true sooo bad
And, Luke I was young enough to be Palpatine's grandson, and Reille is ypung enough to be Luke's daughter or granddaughter. Wouldn't that make her a great-granddaughter or great-great-granddaughter? Unless Palpatine had her mother/father at an old age...
i agree
Who would want to have sexual intercourse with Palpatine?
Maria Batti Jar Jar maybe? They're both horrible to look at
Donald Trump.
palpatine talks about manipulating the force to create life soo maybe sex is not needed
Maria Batti Natalie Portman ! Ahhh what if she is Amadala and Sidious daughter
Maria Batti he has bad teeth you can still fuck him just don't kiss him haha
Yah I absolutely believed she wouldn't be a Skywalker....and her being a Palpatine is a really good theory...
I think it sound horrible. Luckily this theory is complete bogus.
i love how there are always people in the world waiting to shoot everything they can down
How is it complete bogus?
Jspro says the person who announced " I absolutely believed she wouldn't be a Skywalker" lol. but i agree I don't think she is a Skywalker but it's a possibility.
Jspro ikr!! I hope they do It in star wars 8
I heard a little girl in the cinema say 'That's Luke...?' when Luke Skywalker was revealed in "Star Wars VIII: The Force Awakens", as if she was Underwhelmed by what Luke looked like...
laughable and understandable, EVERY Star Wars fan makes Luke out to be this "all powerful and great master Jedi" (I don't see it though) and then in TFA he looks like a guy who complains about taxes so kinda understandable XD
Luke at this point should be the most powerful force user ever if they stick with the original Lucas (and EU) plot
+zoom zoom103 you seen Yoda?
+zoom zoom103 Fucking taxes LOL. They need to think of Jedi's more like Mr. Miagi(s). I think that would help their perception.
I think the little girl was expecting Luke Skywalker to have the good looks of "George Clooney."
okay, finally finished the video. I love the theory....I actually want it to be true. In fact its more of a theory according to this evidence....
I completely agree.
It sounds even believable
But the time gap, isn't that too big for her age
there is a huge gigantic time gap.....
It's saying she's the granddaughter of Emperor Palpatine. That's a fairly reasonable timeline.
the moment you realize that fan theories make better movies than the actual scenarios
What if she's his granddaughter and her mother is captain phasma and her farther is Luke. As this could relate to Mara jade Skywalker as she was the one of the emperors hands
That is freaking awesome.
+Auron Moon if he had a secret daughter that Luke had a relationship with
Yo the girl who plays Captain Phasma even has Palpantine's HAIR!!! Hahaha no jokes!
I had this theory about a week after the movie came out. In the Visual dictionary is says that Phasma's armor is from Palpatine's personal Naboo shuttle.
he says Palpatine's granddaughter... not daughter... so yeah...
reys fighting style is coz she hasn't been trained and uses it like her staff/sword
lachlain banton Lightsaber is like a sword and she never stabbed with her staff.
Wtf are you even trying to say.
sorry for the autism on the comment i was typing on my shit phone, what i meant by this is that she hasn't been trained to use a lightsaber so she uses it how someone with no training would use it in stabbing and forward thrusting.
hopefully i cleared things up with this comment and i hope you understand what i mean.
lachlain banton That makes sense.
lachlain banton then why did the most powerful with ever fight like that
I was totally on-board with the Rey Kenobi theory until Daisy Ridley hinted in an interview that Rey would be "injured emotionally" when she learned of her origins... I don't know why that would be the case if she was the granddaughter of Obi Wan... but with this theory it actually makes a lot of sense why that reveal would devastate her
Like your posts. May not agree with everything you say, but what impresses me is that you put effort and thought into your work. That's something that everyone should aspire to.
What if Luke had a child with Palpatine's daughter, and that child was named Rey. That makes her the grand daughter of Darth Vader AND Darth Sidious. Wut??!!
Which explains why she was drawn to Anakin's lightsaber, yet still a decendent of Palpatine.
that would mean that during the events of clone wars and revenge of the sith, palpatine was making babies... that's a kind of a stretch don't you think? :p maybe make it granddaughter and Rey is then great-granddaughter
Hang on wasn't Luke with mara jade ? Humm
+millan wood Mara Jade is not canon anymore, keep it up ;)
Oh no if that's the case poor Kyle katarn 😞 Luke's best apprentice what a shame they could have done a movie on him
Personally I think Rey is Luke's daughter and Palpatines grand daughter. I read that in a book the daughter of Palpatine was one of his Shadow guard who also was a sith Assassin. It is known that the Guard used Pike Staffs that looks fairly similar to Rey's staff. I going out on a leap here but i am assuming rey will eventually make her light saber either double ended or pike staff like. The Story goes that Palpatine told his daughter to Assasinate Luke if he couldn't make him his apprentice and was killed. What I am thinking is that Ben Solo had a twin and Luke was making his new Jedi's and he took ben solo and his twin out for a training mission. This is when Palpatines assassin daughter tries to kill luke... She knocks him down and ben and his twin are forced to save luke. This leads to Bens twin dying just as luke regains his whits and defeats Palpatines daughter. Luke finds the young Palpatine to be extremely beautiful and instead of killing her he attempts to convert her to the light side. This is where ben solo who is guilt stricken that his twin is dead and the person who killed them is now Lukes secret lover. Its easy to see how Ben Solo could now be manipulated by Snoke to turn on the Jedi and form the Knights of Ren. At some point during all this Luke and Palpatines daughter have their own daughter i.e. Rey. They then make the plan to leave Rey on Jakku with Lor San Tekka watching over her much like Ben Kenobi did for Luke. Not too long after Palpatines daughter leaves Rey on jakku that Ben Kenobi now Kelo Ren catches up with her and kills her in a duel thus getting revenge for his twins demise all those years ago.
hmm they are going to make a Obi-wan solo movie... that would be epic... I would not mind either but IMO Luke was much older when he trained then Obi-wan... so if either ended up having kids i think it would be more luke then obi-wan especially after he saw what having kids did to his best friend. AS you said its no big surprise that Rey is Lukes daughter but it will be a bit surprise to the audience when we find out that she is also Palpatines grand daughter... Maybe this is why Leia and Rey embrace like they are family even though its the first time either has met as they can feel via the force that somehow they are family though they dont know the direct connection just yet.
I thought the same about the double sided lightsaber based on her staff and the way it's positioned on the poster directly in front of Kylo's almost like it's double sided
FluffyTaco thats why they said that palpatimes daughter was the one who was lukes secret lover and reys mother idiot
does this mean i can expect a " i am your father" line from palatine or something similar?
might be kind of hard considering hes dead as fuck
You sir win the day!
+kevin reese Or is he..
I am your grandfather!
end of episode 8. Rey, your parent left you one gift. she opens a box, and finds a small red crystal pyramid, she touches it and a projection of Emperor Palpatine appears above it "Rey.... I am your father.... this is my sith holocron, it contains all of the cumulative knowledge of this sith, use it to fulfill your destiny, and take your rightfull place in the Galaxy (soft evil laugh). FYI episode 9 will be called return of the sith
omg I am literally in tears man, great job.
J.J Abrams be like: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
Plagueis taught Palpatine everything he knew, including how to create life. Palpatine created Rey through the force. Watch it happen.
UCFTyler just as plaguis created anakin
Ok good theory, but who would actually bone darth sidious lol
If Rey has connections with Palpatine its more likely for her to be a genetic experiment or to be conceived by the force like Anakin
But both of those things don't really seem like things Disney would put in their films...
Could have been before Palpatine turned to the Dark Side. His family was a noble family of Naboo and it would not be hard to imagine that he probably fathered a child in his younger years.
Kaat Brackeniers
"the dark side of force is a pathway to many abilities most consider to be unnatural"
Palpatine whispered that into some girls ear and..there you go lol
Louis Zava But even before being a sith Palpatine had a knack for getting in trouble and was after more power.
Kaat Brackeniers Pussies cant resist the force.
gold diggers
V, this was a good one!
I hope rey is actually luke's sister, vader got his robo-donger in someone before he died
wtf XD
I mean his dong has to be robotic, it got dunked in lava like milk and cookies
oh my god both your comments lmao amazing
I hope Rey is actually Luke's father
he wasn't actually "dunked" in lava. he just kinda touched it with his toe and caught on fire. after obi cut his limbs off.
Accents aren't genetic. They're learned.
Obviously. You learn your accent from your environment, no matter your lineage. However in this case, the accent similarity adds a facet to the story, and one you might realise unconciously.
If this theory turns out to be true, im loving that subtle clue
Star wars is all about subtle clues.
Take the phantom menace for example. Where yoda and windu had a conversation at the end and are saying to each other that there is a master and a pupil. And when they wonder who it was palpatine is on screen. That was a very subtle hint of palpatine being darth sidious. And there are more examples of that so yeah a subtle hint like that could very well be something they did here.
They could be genetic in a fictional universe.
She was old enough to probably have picked up the accent from someone in the family and just didn't lose it. But you're right. For all we know she just got the accent talking to that Sean Penn rations portions guy.
ranwolf76 I think the point they are trying to make is that it's supposed to be a hint. They both were English accents. I get what your saying and obviously it's true but idk if that's exactly what they are saying.
I'd like this, but Disney doesn't have the balls. She's a Kenobi, or worse yet, a Skywalker.
omg watch urban she cant be benobi the timeline is way to off
Salomon Pawlos She can easily be his granddaughter.
How is being a kenobi bad? That would be great
Having both Kenobi and Palpatine for grandparents would be incredible, and also provide background for Rey's powerful natural force abilities.
Ferenc Szaffenauer I do not want her to be a skywalker, I would be pretty content if obi wan was her grandfather, but I would be amazed if she was related to palpatine
It actually made a lot of sense that snoke wants to see her, because if your theory about Mace Windu is snoke is true then he could want to either get revenge on Palpatine by taking out who could be his granddaughter.
What if Palpatine had a daughter, then Luke had a daughter with Palpatine's daughter? o_O
Nice line of thought.
That would be a fun talk a Luke my dad was wons the emperor really oh ya my father killed him
Shawn Diamond Now I kinda want this to be cannon
Shawn Diamond lmao
Palpatine is old enough to be Anakin's grandpa or an uncle who is 10 years older than his mom.
Palpatine's daughter would be at least older than Anakin, so Luke, Anakins son won't be banging someone at least 30 years his senior by the end of Jedi.
I think Kylo will redeem himself and Rey will go to the dark side haha
3rd World Gamer I do to. I think while Luke trains Rey, she becomes a Sith. Kylo will redeem himself and rain Finn.
Wouldn't that be much more fun to see compared to knowing that Rey is Luke's daughter or something like that?
3rd World Gamer no one can ever redeem themselves from killing Han!
Barak Carmielli Vader redeemed himself from killing children though haha
***** They were naughty children, they never brushed their teeth before going to sleep, so it was more easily forgiven.
You know that accents are not hereditary right?
Nor fighting styles ahah
He didn't say they were inherited traits. He was drawing parallels between the two characters like many writers would do to give subtle clues of their relationship.
true he doesn't outright say it's inherited but what does an accent have to do with drawing parallels between the two characters? Obi-wan had an English accent, as did Grand Moff Tarkin (any imperial officer really), Mon Mothma, General Hux, Supreme Leader Snoke, C-3PO, Lor San Tekka, Captain Phasma.....are they all a part of some kind of 'relationship'?
The 'relationship' is they are all swingers from Surrey.
Fighting styles is different for the Star Wars universe, because she has no fighting style at this point. She is simply being guided by the force.
I just want it to be December. I'm so excited for VIII. These videos are hyping me up.
best pun ever
sidiously
it was reaally good
That implies there is more than one.
+Vincent Vendetta. your an idiot plagius and bane are some of the most powerfull sith to live read the books then talk about star wars by the way their are 6 or 7 Skywalkers in the new republic books idiot. i read most of the new and old books idiot Disney should have followed the book ben solo in the books is ben Skywalker jacen solo is a sith giana solo is a jedi and her brther anikan solo is sent to get him
+John Irons no i not i have no no Faith in anyone i don't trust that includes the government
this convinced me. the Kenobi one convinced me. wtf do I pick?
Chris Howard Palpatine theory seems more creepy & terrifying
Kenobi one has more evidence though...
Each fan theory is better than the last
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