Enfield No1 MkIII .410 Musket
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In this video we take a look at a very interesting part of Enfield history, the No1 MkIII .410 Musket. These were conversions of original .303 British rifles over to .410 smoothbores for a prison guards and police work among other things. These Enfields were originally designed to fire 98gr musket ball loads which are still available however many were opened up for modern 2 1/2" .410 shells, this example included. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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Can you imagine a squirrel thinking you were pointing .303 Enfield at him, lol
It's not a .303 though :/
But he couldn’t know :)
HILARIOUS BROTHER! i think that there is the coolest rifle/shotgun ive seen in a minute lol
He'd be like "Oi! I ain't no Jerry! Put that thing down mate!"
@@Smirkku that's the point -_-
There are a lot of these in the UK, pretty cheap too
MrcabooseVG I would imagine a lot of guns that are available there aren't as expensive just because there isn't the market for them like there is here in the US or Canada?
Also with things like these Enfields when places like India returned to self rule a lot of equipment came back to the uk....
There's about 1.5 million people with FAC's and shotgun certificates so there's a decent sized market for them. Not many people collect here though, hunters stick to their rifles and shotguns, target shooters stick to their .22s, 'tactical' people stick to their semi auto shotguns and so on... I think basic .303 Lee Enfields cost more here than the states though which is odd
MrcabooseVG Really? Huh that's surprising to me. Why don't all British shooters unite under one flag?
Same here in Australia
When I was an Army Cadet in the early 1970's, Lee Enfield .303's were the first weapons we got to use! The last (many years later) was a 120mm anti-tank gun!!! Keep up the good work mate, your videos are cracking!!
The main reason for the modern conversion of these is that in the U.K. it’s FAR easier to licence a shotgun than a rifle. That opened them up to re-enactment groups who could own them far more easily than the rifled 0.303 and if you’re only firing blanks it makes no difference! Over this side of the pond you can also get the No.4 SMLE in conversion to 0.410 smooth bore shotgun which is also popular with the re-enactment groups - British Home Guard were issued with ex WW1 SMLEs as they were the same calibre 303 as the WW2 issue No4 - an update of the SMLE
Matt Luscombe Not to be that bloke, but the No.4 is not an SMLE.
Matt Luscombe That's correct, to own a 'section 1' . 303 you'd normally have to be an active member of a gun club that has access to a 'fullbore' range.
I.e, the onus is on *you* to satisfy the powers that be you have a 'good reason' to own one.
While with shotgun, basically if you're not legally or medically disqualified, you're good to go. You still need a licence of course but *they'd* need to come up with a good reason not to grant you one.
These conversion were made 2 generations ago. Was gun control an issue that far back?
They also gained tons of popularity in former British colonied like India where they didn't have proper shotguns so they just converted former SMLEs into shotguns.
I used to have one of these in the original musket chambering, very interesting load to make rounds for. You would have to anneal 303 casings and load them with 3-4gr of bullseye, fill the case with cream of wheat and then wax seal the end. You fireform the cases and then load them with shot with cardboard discs as buffers. Loading the round ball round was trickier, you had to make a 44 crimp die work to round the case over the ball. Very fun gun.
These are like the guns the guards had at the British embassy in India, aren't they?
Charsept they are
They were also used to arm prison guards and were popular as a hunting/self defense weapon.
Should do a 45-70 enfield. I took one hunting a while ago it was a really nice rifle.
This is EXACTLY the enfield I came here for
Eric and Chad...thanks for the best channel on UA-cam. Informative and entertaining with lots of great content. From the foothills of Mt Rainier in Washington State.......Bob
I have one of these. It's not really practical for much, but it is fun to shoot. Not a bad shotgun to teach some new shooters with. Looks pretty cool with a buttstock shell holder stuffed full of .410 too.
Not only made as riot guns but there were a bunch of shot out barrels that were too pitted to return to service so they bored them out for .410 ( also can use as smooth bore .45 long colt.) bought my barrel from Springfield Sporters for cheap about 14 years ago. Magazine can be made functional again with a little work but one needs to do some work to get the .410 to feed. Now one could do some machine work and bore out the muzzle and thread it for a rifled choke tube, might look at the tubes used by the Thompson Contender or Encore .410 / .45 LC barrels. Have a spare enfield action that gets this barrel installed when I get a chance.
Hats off to the British for repurposing some of their old rifles instead of just selling them back on the surplus market, throwing them into storage for decades or outright destroying them.
Someone should REALLY work out a magazine for these! Maybe an adapter to use Saiga .410 mags? Hell, even a little 3-4 round box would be nice. I remember seeing these in Shotgun News for stupidly cheap prices when I was a kid. That they were single-shot
.410s built like a tree trunk, and their odd chambering, kept me from ever really lusting after one. Like they say, "If I knew then what I know now!"
in the 9 hole reviews video on it, they just use an enfield mag
I just had one of these handed down to me from my step dad. It’s in great condition too. I’m super excited!
My late father owned a Krag carbine that had been converted to .410.
These things sell for $400 to $450 around here, when they were originally imported/sold they were $89.
Hell 2 boxes of 410 gets you to 303 prices
Dout it for the most part, 25 rounds of 410 bird shot is 12$ ish
Nathanael Henderson 24$ gets you federal brand 303 here
keith moore i guess bc its not as common anymore?
I bought bulk 303 Privi Partizan from Cabale's with a $20 off coupon last month. Per shell it was cheaper than 30-30. Privi Partizan brass is much better than Federal.
I love Lee Enfields. Up here in Canada, the military is selling off old Canadian made surplus Enfields that are chambered in the original amazing 303 British cartridge. Great gun for the Canadian wilderness, just due to the pure power factor you have in a 303. They are going for $949.00 to be exact. Great video guys!
That didn't age well.
@@ATruckCampbell so far they’re still safe afaik
The Lee-Enfield (a Savage No4) was my first rifle, so I have a special love for the old Smellies. Great rifles indeed.
I need Enfields. Not just one. Notice that was plural. I need them all. Every single one.
It's been one of my dream guns since I was a kid and now that I can legally own them because I live in this beautiful, fucking awesome country. I will own as many as possible aha.
That just rocks, I have a few .410s, and now that is on my look for list.
This gun is probably the coolest .410 I’ve seen in a while.
Would love to get my hands on 1
I recently took mine out deer hunting and killed a 200# 8 point with it. I was shooting the original 410 musketball ammo. At 50yds I knocked it down with a double lung shot just behind the shoulder. Buck ran 50 yds and piled up. Truly impressed with the power of that old ammo. Practiced at 50 yes and 3 inch group was not bad for that old smoothbore.
Cool trick with the shells between your fingers. Four aimed shots in twelve seconds.
Now, just load the shells with slugs and black powder and you've got yourself a true steampunk-style musket.
(According to the views, i am 34th)
Arouteous Kophrebus I like the way you think
Berdan primers.
Over here in the UK,.410 cartridges have allways been available in the little 2inch size also.
and I believe they still are.
Regards from a old limey b.
I know you guys posted this nearly a year ago. I just bought a No1, Mkiii * today and went back and found this to watch. I miss Barry. I know you guys do too.
Part of the reason for these conversions was so that the government here in the UK needed could get rid of thousands of surplus rifles after the end of ww2 so they made them available all over the commonwealth as shotguns, especially here in the UK, at a time when all you had to do to get a shotgun certificate was to go into the post office, pay £5, you could then go buy a shotgun, lots of veterans wanted these because they were familiar. This was in the 50s, 60s, and early seventies before gun control increased massivly
Obtaining a shotgun certificate is still pretty easy in UK
@@stgsyd7183 if you live in the country and have land to shoot over maybe, unless you're already a member of a shotgun club in the UK Youve got virtually no chance I'm getting a shotgun certificate, whilst it's true that the police are more likely to issue shotgun certificates than an FAC, they still don't like doing it. And won't if they don't think you need one
That was the good old days and you could buy shotguns out of the club books
Hi. Eric..the Enfield that I have shoots actual brass case. 303 rounds that have a lead ball slug in them. They come as surplus in a really cool wooden box about 7inch square. Very cool
I saw one of these at a pawn shop for $225 it's still there I
Might pick it up and get ray to open it up
JUST DO IT (that is a awsome price)
Grab that thing( the scattergun)!
What pawn shop ????!!!!!!
my father used my grandfather 43 mauser with 410 all the time and it was great ! the 43 was a real beater almost no rifling left hahaha
Does anyone else think it's cool how the big gun channels wear each other's shirts?
I don't think Eric and Yankee Marshall will be wearing each other's shirts anytime soon. . .
410 is my favorite to shoot, I hope i can get my hands on one
That first soda shot was amazing haha
That sound of the bolt is orgasmic
You guys are just havin' too much fun. I just got 4 of these as gunsmith specials for $125.00. I am hoping
to det at least one of them running soon. They look like somebody kicked here all the way from Ishapore
Great video, Can't wait for the jungle carbine. I picked one up last year and they are a blast to shoot.
Thanks for sharing a bit of history with us.
Really wanted one of these to take sporting clays shooting
Eric, I've been with you guys from the start my friend, Thank you guys for all the great vids brother. Is there anyway you can so a tribute video for Barry?
Gary Allen Barry was his own tribute. We lost a great man there. It still seems weird to watch these videos without him.
Patrick M your right. He was a very entertaining person to watch. He was the reason I subbed in the beginning but then I fell in love with the channel. Eric and Chad are the best on UA-cam in my opinon.
Got one and a Lithgow .410. Great things.
The regrettable incident occurred in 1919 in India. The Indians were demonstration in a town square for independence. The local British Army General sent in two companies of Colonial troops whom opened fire expending all their .303 ammo. If I recall correctly it was 1,600 rounds.
If you had some evil zombie squirrels you could also fit the sword-bayonet.
Guns and gadgets has a video up on how we can help push the national reciprocity bill that's going to vote tomorrow. Everybody please watch the video and take action we can't afford to sit on our hands if we want this to go through.
By the way Eric cool vid and you know if you're looking to sell that bad boy I'm looking to buy. That is cool as hell.
Dammit my wife is going to be pissed. I just bought a Px4 storm and a hi point carbine and now I'm going to have to get this. Are you trying to get me divorced or what man.
Patrick M link? Pls
I like Guns I'm old school don't know how to do links just search guns and gadgets in UA-cam it's his latest video. Glad to see people are interested in fighting for the rights of our country though.we need everybody we can get these days.
I like Guns . By the way I like guns to man.
How smooth is that action!
Enfield smooth.
Yeah, Enfield smooooooooooooth.......... Holding mine now
Wonderful! Try shooting a round of skeet with it. Of course, you would have to shoot the doubles as singles, but that's OK.
I am not sure how short the hulls need to be, but on the Ballistic Products website they sell primed 2 inch, short .410 hulls for $17.19/100 count. If that would work in the old unmodified chambers then you would have a supply ready to go.
Always enjoyable every educational.
A few this side of the pond with 3" chambering. The unfortunate incident that you referred to was I believe the one that took place in India .
You are the Bob Ross of the gun world
Oh no this is exactly the Enfield I came for
Wow, I am amazed at the price people are asking for those. I remember back in the 80s seeing them for less than $100.
A riot gun. Wow, an antique that can still be used today.
Hits harder than I expected
Is there any chance you can make a video on the updated Texas knife/blade laws to help spread the word
This reminds me of a mosin nagant that i saw at a gun show. It was re chambered for a .22 lr. Pretty interesting
*Needs more SMLE*
I have been looking for one of these for years
I have a No4 Mk1 Version of this from 1943 Made by savage under lend lease.....love it odd bit of history.
A new gun to add to my "Bucket list" of guns.
If I owned one I wouldn't waste any time in developing a "buck and ball" load. Wish I'd found this video sooner 😊
Watermelon bowling.... What the hell?! Haha.
I like to think I’m fairly knowledgeable about guns, partially thanks to you fine folks at IV8888, but until 17 minutes and 11 seconds ago I had no clue that this was a thing.
Chads enthusiasm is infectious
Springfield Sporter Special! $49.95 back in the day! And just a few years ago. Southern Ohio Guns imported a shipping container full of the original British wooden crated .410 ball ammo. I believe that the original ammo is a British .303 case that is not necked down to .303.
this is very cool idea teach kid shooting if were made again.
Some of your ideas are dead on about what the British were doing. One that you failed to mention was cost and surplus arms reutilization. What they did was take surplus Mark I's and modified them to be single shot shotguns. As to the ammunition issue, the British had also tried issuing a proprietary 14 gauge Martini Henry single shot. This cartridge used a three point firing pin, which related to the priming system. The one problem that the British did not anticipate was that the guns that fell out of their hands could be loaded and fired with 16 gauge ammunition.
Eric, have you thought of making some brass 410 cases out of 444 Marlin, and cutting them down to 2 inches so you can load 45 slugs into them?
Awesome video- thanks! Back in the day - SAMCO had them
I live in Ireland.. those .410 conversions are very popular among reenactors mainly because it's all they can get licenced to them. The laws are very different here. Each firearm required to be licenced to the owner
Had one until recently, an Ishapore Arsenal 1942. A converted No 1 Mk 3 star. A lot were old and tired rifles converted and issued to police/militia. As a smooth bore, and originally a necked down .303 with a musket ball, they were not accurate beyond maybe 100 yards. I see Eric's was originally a BSA 1918.
Have you ever shot or seen a GEHA shotgun? Its the Mauser G98 converted into a 3 shot bolt action goose gun.
The barrels so long it reaches half way to a 25 yard target resulting in a 1/4 spread
Ashley wells right? I'd think it'd look better if it were shortened by a foot or so. It's single shot anyway
But that full length barrel kind of makes it look like an SBR.
At least to me it does
I meant full length stock
Yeah .410! :)
These are great guns.
.303 is easy to find but is not the cheapest, next time I see one of these I'll be picking one up to go with my Mk3*, I nearly picked up a .410 Martini Henry a few weeks back but just missed out.
Good lawd the patina on that rifle...shotgun is perfect.
The original .410 ammo for that gun is an annealed .303 case, and can be fireformed to fit any .410 gun.....the Brits were not into wasting anything, that .410 is a rebored, shot out .303 barrel.....coincidently I was reloading My 410/.303 brass this evening....load a .410 load, capped off with a calling card baffle and some white wood glue....enjoy...
Nice. Always wanted one of those and the 22 trainer!
Would love to own one of these in England, never seen or heard of one over here though...
So it's pretty much an original greener police gun but an Enfield variant ?
Eric you should replicate the original load using 303british brass fireformed and trimmed to 2-1/2 and loaded accordingly would make for a good video if it has a 3 in chamber I think you can form 9.3x74r maybe to make 3in brass shells
That intro was great.
This is so unique! Thanks for the upload
My dad owns one of these but it's a Canadian No.4 MK1 that's modified to hold 5 shots and in .410 obviously.
There are also .22 caliber single shot trainer rifles, those are pretty cool.
3ducs - Those 0.22 conversions were issued to our Army Cadet units over here in U.K. You can set up a small bore range in a drill hall at 25 yards which would not be possible in full bore. Also our cadets are children from around 12 and up and couldn’t handle a 303 or 762. Interesting to see some have made it over the ‘pond’
There are also some mosins converted to 410
Oh man, if I had one of these I would go through so much ammo; I'd completely wreck my .410 reloading press through overuse.
I have occasionally taken out a .410 shotgun and busted clays with it that are launched from where I'm standing. You guys should try that with this.
And... shoot it for group with solid slugs.
Awesome video guys, I’ve actually got one in Australia, great fun on rabbits.
I would like to see someone convert these back to magazine fed. Seems like you could easily convert a mag to handle the .410, could probably fit 6 rounds or so in there.
Another weapon I wish I had bought when they were dirt cheap. I saw 4-5 at a show for $49.99.
Erick can really oomph those watermelons out there lol I think hickok did that with pumpkins once.
Well you can shoot squirrels with a Lee Enfield but there just won't be much left of it
saw that shirt on your video last week and had to have it....got it. You guys should have more Tshirts in your store
Such a perfect gun for shooting skeet if you are use to using a Lee Enfield
'Yes Barney, you're only allowed ONE AT A TIME!'
I remember holding one of these .410 muskets-yes, that's what they are called-at a gun shop, when I was 18. I'm now 56 and regretted ever since for not buying it. It was under $100 Australian at the time too.....sigh!
Bazinga02 I also remember them from the early '90s. I was actually on my way to the counter to buy one, when I spotted an Ishapore 308 version. I probably should have gone back to buy a 410 later, but sadly, never did.
Christopher Conard I hear you brother. Still, they are bound to be out there. Just at higher prices.
really top notch close out on the video
That is pretty cool. Thanks for the video!
I was holding one a couple days ago thinking "Oh that's so funny".
In British colonial Africa and parts of India .303 British was banned for use by the public. Like you said Eric, they had a riot and large numbers of full military spec Enfields where stolen from an armory and used by dissident groups to attack the police. Afterwards the British converted all police issue Enfield rifles to .410 and had full size military units guard the armory instead of just a squad like before.
Very nice I need to add one to my collection
Id love to have one of these its awesome