Seastream Kayaks - Angler PD review - IS THIS THE CHEAPEST PEDAL DRIVE KAYAK?!?!
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Check out my review of the new Seastream Kayaks Angler 120 PD! This is one heck of a kayak for only $1499 MSRP. This may be the least expensive pedal drive on the market but it is stable, fast and lightweight. One of my favorite all around pedal drive kayaks so far! Ask your local dealer to demo one of these for yourselves and see how surprising it is to have a stable and fast kayak for under 1500!
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Thanks for a great video. You made me order one here in Stockholm, they are hard to get here in the Nordic Venice. I'm waiting for springtime. Right now it's 14 degrees here
Great review of an awesome kayak. Nice video Mike.
Thanks for the review. I’ve narrowed my choices between the Seastream Angler 120PD, Old Town Sportsman Salty120pdl and the Hobie passport 12. I’ll be fishing the Chesapeake Bay and the many tributaries in SE Virginia.
Hey man, what did you get? I fish piers around the chesapeake bay and want to get a kayak too.
I jus pick one up today! Can't wait to get it on the water!
I've only watched one of your videos and you already cost me $700! I was going to get the paddle only version but now I'm sold on this one instead. Thanks for a great and thorough review!
😂 that happens to me too. UA-cam can be good for the soul but bad for the wallet. Congrats on the new kayak!
And what is that thing you haul it out of the trailer on?
@@stickshaker101 I use a Ctug cart
@@TheBassquatchHunter Ok, thank you!
Looking to get a fishing kayak and keep coming back to this one. Can’t get over the price on the high end ones. This one seems to be a poor man’s OT Sportsman 120 PDL. Seems to have most of the same options. I’m surprised there are not more reviews on this one. I would think at $1400 it would be a more popular kayak. Thanks for the review!
I'm a total kayak newbie, so my snobbery level is at 0. I'd totally rock this one for my first pedal drive kayak, ha-ha. God bless!
It is a great kayak for beginners or pros for sure!
Just bought one today.. can’t wait until it gets here
Congrats!! You will love it!
I would love to have one of those kayak
Those look nice! I have two 2020 old town predator loaded with gear. My only complaint is the weight. Those look very lightweight 👍
They are all about the same weight once you load em up 😆 all heavy on land but great on the water
How does the polyethylene of this kayak compared to the Mako and Lure 11.5? I know the Mako is real thin.
Looks identical to my field and stream shadow caster, man I’m stuck between this, and the HooDoo tempest
Just placed my order for the sea stream!
When I picked up my moken 10v2 my dealer had one of these he had just got in stock it looks like another great boat from the Feel Free family brands.
It is awesome ! I am a huge fan of my Moken v2 as well!
It’s a rebranded Shadow Caster. Good luck getting a replacement standing deck when it cracks and breaks and it will over time. Loved the shadow caster but the lack of replacement parts is what made me sell mine.
Well, I appreciate the comment. I’ll help you out a little to save you time doing research. This company made the shadow caster to begin with. Finding parts in the past for those may have been confusing to some since people had to go to big box stores to try and ask for parts. Now it is sold directly from the manufacturer instead and parts are extremely easy and accessible if you contact customer support. :)
@@TheBassquatchHunter Made as in design or Manufactured? I clearly recall in 2016 contacting FeelFree and then getting contact email for a company called Joy Sports which got me nowhere. Certain parts should be available for sale on the site instead of waiting for it to fail to contact customer service? Your rudder cable fix video is an example of it. I would love to buy a spare and keep it on my kayak so if it breaks I can replace it instantly instead of waiting a few weeks to receive one through a warranty. Maybe I’m in the minority that thinks ahead before heading out to the water of fixes I may have to do. Taking care of the customer is how you build a brand and if I had easy access to order parts I may need ahead of time then I would be more then willing to invest in the product.
Michael Rutter I understand. I have owned Feelfree’s since 2016 as well and can tell you that their service is always top notch.. the issue may have been because that kayak back then was not handled directly by the manufacturer but made exclusively for a big box store. I am not sure. But I know that if you contact feelfree and ask about any parts for any of their boats, they are very readily available. Contacting joy sports would not help too much since they are not located in the US. Feelfree/3 waters/seastream HQ USA is based in North Carolina and is known for incredible service. Now, some parts are available online and through dealers for their kayaks but it would be tough to lost everything for sale separately im sure. I contacted customer support for the rudder cables and had them within a week or so. It’s almost always a few days before reviving any part you need through them from my experience and what I hear from
The majority online on the owners groups. If you need something, shoot them an email or call and you’ll be all set:) PM me on Facebook if you need any contact info or have any questions:)
which is better big fish 108 or seastream 120 pd?
Would you want that one ir the big fish 108 for tournement style bass fishing? Thanks for the reviews!
Tough call. The seastream is lighter, faster and more manageable, but the big fish is more stable and has much more room. I would vote for the seastream since it is less expensive, easier to load and unload and faster. Unless you are a larger guy and need the extra room
I appreciate the review..., And I would like to suggest you tell us your height and weight, and use a gps and give top speed you attain...and show the deck while paddling with no scupper plugs , so we can see if it's a dry ,or wet ride..., In future reviews ...thank you.
smiley,..if its any help i own the shadow caster, and its basically the same kayak without the pedals,..and i can tell you its really a stable ride.. and a dry one. I'm 5'11, 210, no probs. i used to own a cheap vibe 10 footer,..and it was scary..comparison isnt needed. im not a long time kayak fisher but as someone whom can swim worth a darn, i love my shadow caster,..and even stand and fish. Same dimensions as this pedal drive, and has to be close to weight (90 for the shadow caster) and i've topped it on my explorer no problem,..and now in my pickup with no probs. i'm taking my shadow caster to georgia in september,..and once there im looking for the seastream angler,..cant beat it for the price...this way i can invite friends and the mrs to go along.
1st thing I see wrong is the outdated metal woven rudder pull lines. My P.O.S. Bigfish 108 had them and the left side frayed because the metal piece used to hold tension would cause enough pinching to break the fibers. Yes, Feel Free sent me a new set within 2 weeks of emailing them my complaint but I noticed wear on the right side a month after that. Upgrade to heavy-duty braided line. The propeller needs some type of guide to center the props blades while it's in the water so that you can easily pull it up and out of the water to remove debris or out of the way in shallow water. Looks like the pedal drive system is the same as the BigFish. NOISY!! Never buy a kayak until you test drive it!! Lesson learned the hard way
Lot to answer here.. first thing, sorry you had some issue and I am glad they were fixed. Secondly, I have used those same cables for 4 years on every model and never experienced the same issue. Thirdly, there is a device to center the prop to pull it up easily. Fourthly, the pedal drive is the same and is chain driven. Just like any other pedal driven boat with a prop. The noise you hear is not loud by any means and is the same noise a bicycle makes when the chain is spinning a gear. It works perfectly for me on the big fish and seastream. I, as well as thousands of others are happy with the stability, quality, comfort and accessibility of these kayaks. I agree with you that you should demo and test out kayaks first and learn all about them before purchasing or reviewing :) get out and catch some fish!
Also, the device you say it needs to center the prop is the spring loaded button just above the prop. You will hear the prop click and stop when it is pressed down. That is to center the prop vertically so it can be pulled up easily. :)
I really appreciate your review videos. If you had to suggest the best budget pedal kayak right now what would it be. I’d be fishing rivers and small lakes.
Thank you! I’d highly suggest trying them out in person to make sure it fits you. The moken 10 pdl is my favorite right now
Thanks!
👍🏽great price
Really want to demo one
I already see a possible problem with the pedal drive...
Is it possible to lift it out of the way to stand and cast in shallow flats?
I have a LURE11.5 and love it!
I just got rid of my Hoodoo tempest 120p because it was too narrow making the front gear tracks useless for gear and trolling.
Not to mention if you weigh more than 200 lbs the tempest has water on the floor through the scuppers.
Yes, it easily moves out of the way:)
Looks like a great fishing platform.....however, why would they release a kayak without access to the hull interior? Not only is a waste of space and storage but how would you pump water out in case of a crack/leak?
There is a drain plug to drain water if anything ever happens. As far as storage goes, there is plenty of options for storage solutions on top of the kayak. Most recreational boats will have more internal storage for the camping/traveling experience and fishing platforms usually have less internal storage since it is not needed in a fishing situation as much.
My only question about this kayak, is where does a transducer mount? I prefer it to mount recessed in the hull if possible, if not other places can work.
I use a transducer arm on the track on this kayak, but I do believe you can scupper mount one as well.
I never heard the cost ?
I wish someday i have kayaks
Wow. I need this.
Yes you do 😉
Dude, its very, very affordable. 1600$. Ots a steal.
@@jlansdale536 in the world of pedal driven stable kayaks, it’s a pretty solid deal for sure
Need more information about the trolly system and how it works
On the cart that I use for the kayak?
the hoodoo tempest is 1199.00 .. its defintely got the seastream beat by a couple hundred
That wasn’t out when I filmed this. And there are plenty of brands that are made in China that take others designs that are less expensive as well. I am not 100% educated on Hoodoo yet, but I was mainly referring to major brands when I mentioned it was the cheapest.
@@TheBassquatchHunter roger that, actually hodoo started in 2020 as well.. out of Texas .. they now have quite a few resellers .. in the SE .. and have presented a new model at 2021 icast.. hoodoo impulse 120p .. which is about the same price 1499.99 .. I am still in the market for budget pedal kayaks .. and there are quite a few now .. pelican getaway 110 .. which is a hybrid sup/yak with a mirage drive for 1099.99 .. its been a little bit with covid 19 slowing things down for all of us..
Is there a hatch for inside access and running accessories?
No. The Pedal drive version has no compartments, only bungy storage on top.
Would you recommend this one or the hobie passport?
Travis F78 two very different boats. The passport is a two piece design and fin propelled instead of propeller driven. I personally like the Roto-molded plastic better. But the passport is not a bad boat either
Hey does this feel the same as the lure 11.5 when standing
The lure is definitely more solid and wider, but this kayak is very stable
HooDoo Tempest 120 is another good budget pedal kayak!
I would love to see a side by side comparison.
1,200 is not budget
@@LouisianaVol for a pedal drive it is. just go to walmart then get a disposable hunk of cheap plastic. Quality things cost money and we have inflation happening. 3k-5k is the expensive range
@@LouisianaVol it is for a pedal kayak… you can get a Pelican PDL drive for about $1000 but it’s a cheaper plastic and the hull design is for recreational purposes in calm waters… similar to the Hobie Lynx (which are waaay overpriced but have great tracking and rudder response)
Dude you committed the cardinal sin when you were launching that kayak into the water. Dragging them into the water with rough ground conditions on the keel, wreaks havoc on the bottom of the boat... Just saying...
But the rest of your vid rocks... Thanks for sharing...
Seastream angler120PD VS Moken12.5 V2. Which one do you chose? 🙏🙏🙏
Tough call and two very different platforms. The seastream has pedals so I would choose that one but take away pedals and I would choose the Moken. The Moken is an amazing hull but does not have a pedal model …yet
Where can you find this kayak to buy? I cannot even look it up on Google
Look up Seastream kayaks angler 120PD. It is out there everywhere! Also, ask your local kayak dealer and they can order one for you too:)
How tall are you?
How much did the yak weigh?
How wide is this particular yak?
The 120 PD is 35” wide and 119lb with the rapid pedal drive installed. The drive assembly (removable) is 22lb. I just picked one up this past weekend.
Considering selling my feelfree lure 11.5 with fish finder to get a pedal kayak and the sea stream is in budget so thinking the pedals would be work the switch.
I would look at the moken 10 or 12.5 pdl is definitely closer to the lure. I would look at the Moken 10PDL for sure!
@@TheBassquatchHunter I want to stand still so worried the moken 10 might be a downgrade in stability. So looking at Moken 12.5 pdl or the sea stream angler. Or just getting the over drive system for my lure since I’m happy with its stability and size. 12.5 feels too long for my applications.
@@zackmorehousewhere are you located? I highly recommend trying the moken 10 first. I have had some big guys in the Moken 10 and the stability is amazing. Even while standing. I would stay away from the Moken 12.5 of those 3 since it is the least stable of the options while standing. The moken 10 and seastream are both very stable. The Moken 10 is comparable to the 11.5 lure. But adding the drive to the lure will probably be the best bet and a little cheaper than buying a new kayak
@@zackmorehouse the moken 10 is much more stable than the moken 12.5. The lure 11.5 is a tad more stable than the moken 10, but they are comparable.
How does this one compare to the 3 waters big fish 108 for stability?
The big fish is much wider and larger. Kind of like comparing a tug boat to a race boat.
Need to try it in the bay, perpendicular to small white caps to declare it stable. Any kayak is stable on glass like water
Interesting opinion for sure. I will very strongly say that definitely not every kayak is stable on calm water. A kayak’s stability is not determined by taking on waves in a bay perpendicular to crashing waves. Many large boats have capsized taking waves to a side and that is most absolutely not recommended in any water craft or vessel. Stability can be judged in the ability to take on waves in some ways although the majority of anglers are much more concerned about stability standing, leaning and shifting weight around in a kayak.
@@TheBassquatchHunter 🙄🙄 keep on dreaming, good luck.
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Big Fish 108 or this? Cost is close enough, is it as stable? Quality?
My local water sports has both and I’m thinking the same thing
The big fish is much much bigger and heavier. Most stable, wider and thicker. But I like how light and fast the seastream is compared to the big fish too
How does the drive on the sea stream compare to the drive in the big fish 108? Is it smoother? Does it have the same loud drive noise like the 108?
Project Reel I don’t think the big fish has any noise issue at all actually. That is the beautify of it. And it is the same drive
Bassquatch Hunter TV really? I have yet to try either but it’s what’s stopped me from pulling the trigger on either or, heard from other ppl that the drive it a bit noisy. Guess I gotta try it out myself
Project Reel yes. Always try for yourself and don’t go off what other people say about anything unless they are buying it for you, hauling it for you, storing it for you and catching the fish for you. Then their opinions can matter more than your own about a future kayak purchase:) lol. I have used the drive for quite awhile and very heavily and never once thought it was noisy or any different than any other drive. The feelfree drove is a bit louder being that it is all aluminum and made for the motor
Bassquatch Hunter TV definitely! I need to find a local dealer in my area and see them first hand. Thank you for answering my questions.
Project Reel of course! What area are you in? I’ll see if I can help locate one for ya.
Looks decent. I wonder how it would hold up to salt. I
They hold up well. A lot of salt anglers have this boat!
Would you chose this or Big Fish 103?
Again, shoot me a message on fb or ig where it’s easier to have a convo and we can figure out which would be a better for for your needs. This kayak and the BF 103 are very different and have a lot of trade offs
Where do I even buy one at?
Check on the Seastream website for local dealers or ask you local kayak dealer to order one for you:)
I have to ask. Big fish 108 or Seastream?
Very tough choice. They are very different platforms. The Seastream is lighter, longer, faster, less deck space and not as stable, but still stable and great. The BF is shorter but heavier and bulkier on land, and much more deck space and stability. I
Suggest you sit in both in person and see what fits you the best. If you are a bigger guy , the may find the BF more comfortable. Also, the BF can take bigger waves, so depends on where you plan to use it most and haul you plan to haul it. The BF is tough to car top by yourself compared to the Seastream too.
Hoodoo Tempest 120P is $1200
Wondering what is your weight... I'm between 200 and 210 /5'11".....is this still a good one for my weight/size?
I am a smaller guy at 160lbs. This kayak will still for you perfectly and if you have good balance, you can easily stand in this kayak. The seat is adjustable and I have had guys over 6’ in this boat and be comfortable. I would also check out the big fish 103 and 108 as options. Those are much wider and more stable, but not as fast and light as this boat. Feel free to message me with any questions through our Facebook or Instagram too:)
Thank you.. looking around and this really caught my eye...
@@Dragon1165 it’s a good boat and one of my favorites of the last 7 models I have tried.
In Portugal is 1.929,00€!...
How do I find more information on the price
Google it:) it will populate all of the dealers and their prices on there
One question: How tall are you and how did the leg room feel? Well, I guess that was two questions. LOL
Thanks for the video man. Looks like a great "bang for the buck."
Hello! It is definitely a great kayak. I am shorter at 5’5” but I have had my friend who is 6’5” in this kayak as well and he was comfortable. The seat is adjustable to reach the pedals at any height:) I would not suggest over 6’5 or under 4’11” to reach the pedals comfortably. It’s definitely an open platform with plenty of room
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what if you hit a giant log wth the out drive when really going fast straight forward..??
I have done that.. many times 😂 it just stops you really fast. It is a solid drive and designed to protect the prop. Very similar to the design of an outboard motor
@@TheBassquatchHunter Good to Hear*
Nicee👍👍👍
Hello🖐 Is this better tahn the riot mako 12 please?
I am not familiar with the riot mako. But I do know that the seastream is very nice
@@TheBassquatchHunter ok thank you. Would love to see a comparision between them thanks.
Someone else did a Seastream test and said it beats the riot hands down. For what it’s worth...don’t remember the channel, but he was also very impressed with this one for the price point
Great review… can’t seem to find them anywhere that’s not sold out though. Also…. Ditch the horrible music… almost makes it unwatchable
What about a place to put a fish finder
Ashlee M I would mount one on the track system like most other kayaks
I fish 3/4 of the time in weeds 🤔
Can put a transducer on it
Yes. I would suggest using the railblaza transducer arm and track mounting it on the side that you don’t land fish on as much.
Would this kayak work for someone that’s 6’7” and 330lbs
My camera guy is 6’7” and fits very well in it… but he is closer to 200 lbs. the weight limit in this one is 400 so you would definitely be ok with that. I would say this one would work, but the 3 waters big fish 108 would be the best kayak out there for you. It is not as light and manageable on land as this one since it is a heavier and bulkier kayak, but in the water, you would feel extremely comfortable. I just had a 6’5” 300lb guest in the big fish 108 and he was very stable and comfortable.
What about for river fishing that has current? Because that’s what I’ll mostly be fishing. Thanks for the the reply.
There is a lot of shallow places and rocks so a pedal drive probably wouldn’t work.
@@wickedchevy9852 the pedal drive will need around 12” to be used. The drives all can be lifted up out of the water so you can paddle in shallow areas. If you want to stay fully clear of a pedal drive, look into the 3 waters big fish 120 and there is also a seastream angler without the pedal drive as well.
How much for this rig
Check with your local retailer to make sure since many have sales and deals right now, but the MSRP was 1799 when int came out
In my opinion the Baby Whale by Hammerhead Kayaks is a considerable better all around deal in an affordable peddle powered Kayak
AND the Baby Whale is a $100 cheaper
I wouldn’t compare Chinese made knock off kayaks though. They aren’t in the same class as the bigger brands. Have you spent any time in the seastream to compare?
Seastream has been around for quite awhile and was made for major box stores and proven to be durable, solid and affordable for many years. Those may be ok kayaks for low budget entry level, but I wouldn’t say it’s apples to apples.
Are you still enjoying this kayak? I’m thinking about buying one.
Still loving this kayak! It’s fast and has held up very well. You won’t be disappointed
@@TheBassquatchHunter how durable is it when scraping over shallow sharp rocks?
@@crux321 it’s solid! Any kayak will get scratches obviously
I was just wondering how much you weigh or weather or not it would be that steady for someone about 190 lbs
I am 155 lbs.. it would be plenty stable for you at 190
Thx
Scence when is 1,000 dollars cheap
Well, it’s closer to 1700 I believe. Also, it is cheap in the market of pedal driven kayaks. A Lamborghini is cheap at 50k but is 50k cheap for a skateboard? 😉
This kayak is the same body style of field and stream shadow castor
Actually it is not. The company that makes this kayak also made the shadow caster and other models for big box stores. The shadow caster was taken from another platform from the brand. The shadow caster has a different seat, no pedal drive and does not have the open bow or the same hull design as this model. Joy sports owns Feelfree, 3waters and Seastream and they also made many of the kayaks for the big box stores under their own names. :)
Hobie mirage passport msrp 1399
It’s probably cheaper ones out there I just haven’t heard about them
This one is 1399 as well I believe. and yes, there are some china kayaks that may be cheaper as well.
Pelican 12' Catch Pedal Drive 'Yak is on sale now at Academy, for $1199 (I did NOT buy one, though - bought the 10' Catch, and loving it...! Light enough to grab with one hand with my rods and tackle box in the other, and walk down to a creek or pond).
I also have the 10.5 Titan (Great 'Yak, but heavy - with all the "trimmings" - @ over 150#...!)
Looking to get the 14' Hobie Pro Angler this X-Mas, if knee surgery goes well ("things wear out", when you get in your mid-70's) Haha!
My Yukon has a built in wheel that LOVES to get rocks 🪨 stuck in it
This or hoodoo tempest?
This for sure, the hoodoo is a Chinese made and us companies buy in bulk to sale under their brand
Ocean?
It is a great saltwater option!
Product amazing. Shipping-not so much
1169 shipped right now
At what point is a boat a better and cheaper option lol
Hoodoo Tempest 120P
Chinese made USA bought and rebranded... no thanks
Sounds like someone got a free kayak…
Could be free, but still can be an honest review
Riot Kayaks Mako 10 = cheapest pedal drive kayak
Riot's parent company went bankrupt. You may want to worry about quality control on Riot kayaks.
1500 is cheap??? Lmao I can get one for 490 bucks on alibaba
Well good luck. There is a big difference between the Chinese knock offs and the real deal.
you can get one for 490, then pay 600+ to ship it....
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This is more infomercial than a real review and that's a turn off
Well, sorry it turned you off. I pointed out the things that I noticed about the kayak on my first time using it. I promise that every single piece of content I make is real and the truth about my opinion of a product.
This doesnt feel like a honest review...
Mongerz why would it not be an honest review? 🤔 I feel I was pretty darn honest about it and it’s been the kayak I use the most since I got it
Dude stood on the bow on the water, and demoed the functions, what more do you want. Good lord!
@@AmazingGrazeAcres kayaks now days can all do that, especially if your a pro.