Paver patio. Start to Finish with Instructions and Tips
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2021
- Detailed instructions on how we install our paver patios. Base prep, Excavation method, installing sub base, screeding sand, materials, paver installation, edge restraints, compaction & why we don't use polymeric sand.
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The explanation of the deck support/patio movement explained the problems with my old backyard patio..... that and tree roots!
Hope it helps out.
The videos where you go into detail (the more the better) and educate us are by far my favorite and what originally made me "hit the subscribe button" ---- Ive been watching for years and feel like you use to help us learn alot more so it was quite enjoyable to have one where you taught us again. Thank you.
JJ got it right!
Agreed
Thanks for the feedback. It seemed like I was getting a lot of haters telling me the opposite. I don't want to be a know it all but I do like sharing how I do stuff.
Cant thank you enough for the in depth explanations to everything you guys do. You have helped my Dad & myself BIGLY! God Bless!
Glad to help
If you haven't done yet i would like to see a flagstone video. Love your videos
I haven't done one recently- but it may have to wait until next season.
Looking amazing. Can’t wait to see the next one. Brilliant work and thanks for sharing this with us take care and Hope you and your crew and family are doing well and hope you all have a good week.
Thanks for watching Hayden!
@@Dirtmonkey You're welcome bud 👍🏻
If I could subscribe again I would, your videos are superb and your knowledge and work ethic are inspirational. Wish we had people/companies like you in Britain 👍 🇬🇧🇺🇸
I gave compression compaction a try today on a small scale with our compact track loader, very effective
YES! it works well.
Good tips on the pavers! I’ve got an older paver patio where the edging is working up and I’ve got to go back, remove it and replace it with new. Big job for a homeowner but worth it to save the thousands in labor I’d have to pay!
I’ve use the polimeric sand and regular sand. It’s a LOT MORE expensive than just sand, that’s for sure, but it sure stays put and blocks weeds longer too. Also, for power washing paver patios, if you use the disc washer it is less likely to get a straight on burst and create a cavity that u spoke of. I’ve used it for years a d haven’t had one problem there.
Great series, LOVE IT!!
The disc washer is the way to go on pavers. Good tip.
Love these Stan!... Enjoy watching what I use to do for a living...
Very cool!
Patio looks great, everyone takes pride in what they are doing.
Thank you sir!
You’re awesome thank you for the professionalism that you and the guys bring to us god bless thank you
Much appreciated sir!
Love the explanation of grades and drainage ! 100 percent agree ! such a nice project !
Hey Dirt Monkey I appreciate how you been keeping the series together, thank you sir.
My pleasure!
Your channel is by far one of the best online learning platforms, great content
Thank you very much!
Good video as always sir. Stay safe 🏴
Thank you sir!
Hey Stan! Project looks great. Thanks for the video
Thanks Alex
Job is lookin awesome!! 👍👍
Thank you sir!
You guys do amazing work. Very scientific calculation and procedures.🤔
Thanks Timmy!
Awesome content, THANK YOU!!!
Hey Stan. Didn’t here from you all last week. Hopefully it was a good one. Mine was a struggle as always but this week is going to be great. I was talking to a buddy that’s works for an excavating company and I asked if they needed someone else to help with stuff. So my buddy asked him and he said maybe so hopefully he will. I am really hopeful that he does because not only do I want to work, I can run equipment and do manual labor with out complaining. I’m crossing my fingers that he wants me to work. Chances are low so I’m not going to get my hopes up. Anyway duck opener is this weekend and so is homecoming but duck opener is more important than football and girls right now lol.
Have a great day Stan
Yep- its duck opener for sure. My son in law already has plans to go out hunting. can't miss that and best of luck with hunting ducks and hunting for a job!
Thanks Stan, looking forward to the next video.
Hope you enjoy it!
Love your videos. Keep up the great work 👍 👏 💪
Thank you!
Very nice work. Like how you use the metal rods to set the height to screen the sand with the 2x4. Fast and easy.
Tried and true
Great info on this vlog. Thanks Stan!
Thanks for watching on this one!
Gosh you know your stuff good vid and information.👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Great video Stan keep them coming, you have amazing guys working with you. One suggestion maybe you could do a video about getting your equipment ready for the winter season. Again great video stay safe.
Winter will be hitting here in about 6 weeks so we will be doing a big switch over.
Great video Stan lots of great information 🇺🇲
Thanks Thomas.👍
Hope you are having a great day! Just got home from a long one today! Hope you are doing well! Awesome video!
Doing great. Just got done filming a video with Josh from Stoney Ridge. We had a blast up north on my cabin.
@@Dirtmonkey cant wait to see it!
Great video Stan I love to see how other landscape companies install their patios. Lots of good poly sand these days is good for around 15 years. Lots of advancements over the years
Good to know. Thanks!
Hello beautiful birdie you sound sooooo happy
she is a big talker for sure
Awesome info man! Enjoyed it!! Look forward to meeting you at GIE this year!
GIE will be a blast!
First class prep is why you shine
That makes every project work.
Great job on the wall too.
Thank you so much 😀
Great video very helpful
Thank you
You call it a rabbit hole! I call it a diagnostics tool! Thanks!!
Well said!
Great video as usual. How do you transition from overlaying concrete with pavers to pavers on stone base with sand bedding course. This example is around a fiberglass pool with a 3' bond beam. The coping and the pool deck pavers will be thinset on the concrete, and then have to transition to stone base with a sand bedding. The pool deck with extend 10-12' from the waters edge.
Great vid like always thank you again
Thanks for watching!
Just saw Stanley driving through Mora!
I was just there!
Thanks for the video OG 💪🏾
Much appreciated. Thanks for watching along.
Love the Videos Stan
Thank you!
I like the video. Interesting to listen to how others do things. Most is fairly standard as far as guidelines. I personally hate the plastic edging. I only do concrete pour in place edging. Ive had to fix or rip out so much plastic edging because its lifted up due to our adverse whether here in upstate NY that I wouldn't use it. I think many times its installer error and they don't sink or secure it right but seems to be a common problem here. I also do a lot of reapplication of polymeric sand and I like it. Looks good, lasts longer but I agree that when the time comes to reapply it there is more work involved as far as getting out of the joints. If you use a little wider swath on the power washer it usually removes it no problem. Your more an expert than me for sure but I just go by what I have seen and done for a while. Good videos though I like seeing the step by step process and logic behind it.
We use long spikes to hold that plastic edging in place. They rust weld below ground which is what we want.
Great videos as always Stan. Just throwing it out there though I really like the longer videos from UA-camrs. Like start to finish the whole wall or whole patio/sod even if it’s a hour long. Obviously whatever is easier for you I still like the vids!
Good to know about the longer vids. I tend to mix it up a bit. some shorter and some over an hour long.
Love the videos
Thanks Ian!
Good video.
Thanks!
Great video again! My birds are answering your bird while I'm watching this.
Oh man- I bet that gets noisy in your house then. haha
I swear in all the paver videos I’ve watched no one talks about to they actually get the base level I understand the strings and levels but never talk about how they set the screed rails and make it so precise
we use a laser on top of the screed rails.
@@Dirtmonkey please make a video on this!!
Good stuff.
Thank you!
Looking forward to the Consruction of the Rounded Paver Patio Addition!
That comes out today.
This is one big of a project
Good to see you here Poojan!
Very cool
Glad you enjoyed it!
Professional!
Thank you sir!
Stan is there anyway you would do a prize/giveaway to spend a day with you and you're crew? I feel like anyone including myself could learn so much from you guys, love these videos!
I'd sure enter it!
Great idea
I say this with respect but-People would want to hang out with a bunch of contractors out on a job??
@@Dirtmonkey more people than you think!! To help and learn!!
@@Dirtmonkey absofreakinglutely!
Stan footers are designed not to move that is why they have to be below frost line here in Pa 3’ I would guess where you are at least 4’ if they move that deck will break away from side of house the homeowner would have to worry more about that then a few raised pavers. Project coming along 👍
Not entirely correct. Some types of foundations are designed to float with the freeze thaw cycle.
@@Luckingsworth not a deck that is connected to a house foundation I understand floating slabs if a house foundation moves walls crack and bad stuff happens
If the deck isn't connected to the house then it can float. But if the deck is connected then it needs a 48" frost footing. But here we never know if that was done correctly and we have a lot of clay. Our ground MOVES big time during the freeze thaw cycle.
Thanks for another informative video Stan. I always learn or refresh my memory from these. I was wondering if in this modern day and time if we should saying "On the same screen"? I say on the same page too lol
I still say things like taping a video. Like its going on a VHS tape from 20 years back.
Great video, THANK YOU, what is your thoughts on adding base bare concrete mix to the paver sand base @ like 1 shovel to 4 of sand ? to add bonding to the paver sand?
Always following these paver videos with interest. A bit of a gap here from excavation to leveling base? I wanted to see how you prepared the subgrade. I'd love to see the "rust-weld" theory proved somehow. It seems the plastic edging is only held sideways by the shear resistance of the stake, and if it's all rusted the stake loses it's shear strength and even the strength to hold the edging down
LEGEND!!!!!! You covered so many tips and tricks in this video, I learnt heaps. Always good to know how to pave.
What trade did you do? How do you know so much? Just experience I guess
I have been a hardscape contractor for 30 years
@@Dirtmonkey wow, that’s a long time. Well before I was born 🤣
I'm rarely surprised by what is water permeable after seeing a poured concrete slab have DOZENS of gallons of water dumped on it in less than 30 seconds and the water passed right through the slab rather than flow away as a river on the surface...
First time I saw a demo of it shocked the Hell out of me...now it just amazes me...
Yep- thats some pretty cool stuff they can do with some forms of concrete to make it permeable.
Great video series - do you typically seal the pavers, too? I had a patio installed last year and already have some staining on the pavers and wondering if sealing would help prevent that. Thanks
We don't seal the pavers unless the customer wants us to- sealing has to be redone every few years and needs to be taken off before it can be resealed. Kind of a pain in the butt.
@@Dirtmonkey thanks!
Awesome project! What are you're thoughts on polymetric sand for flagstone instead of pavers?
No difference- we don't use it.
It's been so hard to get pavers up in the Northeast. Ordered six months in advanced and still had issues getting pallets. Just finished a 3,000 sq foot driveway!
same here- materials are scarce
Recycled material is generally called that wherever you go. Each region has different classifications on material so keep in mind the specs for your area. Here we'll call it Recycled B gravel, for Dirt Monkey it's Class 5. Just ask the pit you're hauling from and they'll generally know what you want.
Good tip!
I’ve only used polymeric sand for decades and never had a problem!?! It’s the way how you grade and form your pavers
Might more than likely be the part of the country we are in and our weather compared to yours
STANNN the man
Hi Poojan!
Thank you for the video! Are you guys using permeable pavers?
Definitely keep in the voice overs
more to come!
here to help
Thanks Nash!
Class 5. Crushed concrete!!
How small are the particles, and what's the percentage of other materials mixed whit?
I used Crushed concrete, instead of 53s and i didn't liked the way it compacts..
Its goes right down to dust. We have had good results with it.
Nice
Thank you sir!
Instead of using sand use crushed limestone it won't wash away like sand does underneath a paver
Stan 👍👊
Thanks Robert😀
Any pros out there have thoughts of doing a patio with pavers over a well? Have an area we’d like to put a patio but I don’t know about digging down and compacting with the well there.
be careful. Wells have to be filled to certain standards in different parts of the country.
@@Dirtmonkey My gut tells me it shouldn’t be done. I’ll have to consult someone local and see what they think.
~~Sure,now you tell me. Recently cleaned out poly sand just over 2yrs old. Fortunately, wasn't/isn't huge area but enough to be annoying though.
Cleaning that poly sand out is tedious.
I can not find a rubber compactor pad that will fit my Harbor freight Central Machinery Plate compactor. Can I lay 3/4" plywood sheets down on top of my pavers and then use my compactor over it?
What do you recommend for a filter fabric? Living in Tennessee, I have a lot of clay.
any heavy duty fabric that is water permeable
Stan, have you done any patio's using #1 stone (pea gravel...NOT pea stone) as the paver base instead of sand? Seems like here in the Northeast the trend has changed to that...always great video's by the way!
we have used granite chips which is similiar. Works great by the way.
Hey stan, Im a fan.
Im curious where youve got your information on polymeric sand. The gator sand that I use up here in Canada has a 25 year lifespan. Not only does it stop weeds, it makes the patio lock as one. We have literally had to use a jackhammer to get some chipped pavers out because the polymeric is so strong. Im not sure why you think it only lasts 3 years. No hate.
We have used other brands and seen it seperate after 3 years. If I had something last 25 years I would recommend it. Just haven't seen it in person yet.
I'm confused on the grading of the top surface of the patio now. In the video you said you put a slop to the sub base but only a small level on the top. I was under the assumption that you need at least 1/8" drop for every linear foot of patio - is that not the case?
The top doesn't need to be pitched that aggressively and can be manipulated. the subbase does need to be pitched at least a 1inch drop per 8 foot of run or more.
I like that ASV. I run a bobcat s220 and a T770. What is the HP of the ASV
its 74 hp
What maintenance does non polymeric sand require and how do you prevent ants or weeds from invading your patio paver sand?
My boss and I install septic systems, and we've been having issues getting tanks, chambers, and bell end pipe.
getting pavers is getting harder and harder.
@@Dirtmonkey I'm honestly not surprised. We're still having issues with getting schedule 40 bell end pipe, and septic tanks from infiltrator. Infiltrator is having issues with a resin shortage from what they've said.
Say you do have to put the pavers around deck footings, how much space do you want between the footings and the pavers?
Some deck footings Don't move- the fotings rest on a good base. Other deck footings I have seen heave as much as 24" inches. No Joke. Those need more space. if the deck footings rest on good soil- go right up to them. But the question is- who knows what lies below deck footings?
@@Dirtmonkey thank you for the reply! I just filled in a large koi pond with about 170 c/y sand. Planning on a paver patio and pavilion on top. Been watching a lot of your videos.
Is there any cases you would use stone dust instead of sand (1 inch) under the pavers? Where I live (up north, Canada) most people seem to use stone dust. Would it be because of cost or ease of use for example?
Also, I have lots of ants, does that make any difference? I was planning to do it the Dirt Monkey way and use sand anyways. But just want to double check.
I know it would be more expensive in the short term, but why not replace the class 5 base material with a concrete slab of equal thickness...
Shouldn't that prevent uneven settling of the pavers?
The class 5 base is better material inour opinion. It lets us adjust on the fly and if we notice any soil issues as we build.
At 3.42 Stan you explain why you Didnt go out past the line of post footings. I get what you explained.
But the question I have is, if you were to tie all the concrete footings together in a foundation or a hob that the pavers were to front up against.
Would that freeze thaw cycle disturb that type of design. Aussie Jeff.
I think its a way of explaining to customers how to make the job easier for themselves. Now they don't have to do cuts, but the customer has a crappy strip of grass the paver side of the post.
@@ozdatman thank you for that explanation.
Around here we have lots of clay soil which is suspectible to frost heave. its common for post footings to move seperately than a deck. If we know the post footings are on good base and won't move then we go right up to the posts.
No railing around the edge of the retaining wall? Maybe that's coming up in another video ....
I hope it is- but it won't be by us. Its not in our contract
So I have a customer that has an old well pit they would like filled and a patio built over it, anyone got an idea how to go about that? Just thin lifts and compact the crap out of it?
That needs a pretty good soil correction. The ground water could really mess with you there and create differential settlement. I would think about using large 3-5" angular stone which will lock in place. Then go into smaller gradients of aggregate with filter fabric bewteen the levels.
I don't know if you can help me. I live in the central valley in California. I'm trying to have a paver patio 13 × 28 , 380 square ft installed. I'm getting quotes from $15 k to 6k. What should be a fair price ?
What if I was putting stacked stone around the columns?
The footings around Minnesota usually rest on clay soil where we work. For them to move is common. Which means anything around them moves.
Quick question @10:00 why didn’t Blaine run the packer parallel with the wall of the house any benefit doing it the way he did or he just did it that way?
If you look he ran parallel first (you can tell by how smooth and packed it is already) and then he is going perpendicular
Bird buster said it best.
If your ever in Crosslake with avs and you want to rip up a yard your than welcome to stop by lol.
I like ripping out yards. Is that cross lake minnesota? Thats not far from ASV headquarters. Not joking- we could try out a new machine and have fun if youve got a place to play. email me - energy 4 @ mac.com. no spaces
Good Evening Stan. How the day going. Lemon Sparking water today. Hby?
Pure black coffee. Been a busy couple days. Hope yours goes well!
You had the footings and paver movement reversed. The footings will stay in place since they go down below the frost line, the pavers will move up and down with frost heaves.
No- I have seen it happen in that order around here. If the deck footings rest on clay which is common around here the footings will heave before the patio which has good base.
I know this is an older video, and was wondering how to reset pavers after pergola footings were excavated in the paver field?
i just started pavers this year. how do you just blow up with lots of work?
lol
Gotta put yourself out there!! Have confidence in yourself and do good work
Ive been on my own for 2 years and havent really advertised just word of mouth
do amazing work and share your results. There is tons of work out there.
How are you liking that ASV?
The ASV does everything we want plus more.
@@Dirtmonkey Thank you!
The paver/footing tip: now I get why every paving job circling footings is always wonky.
Have considered building a form to make your own blocks?
no- thats for a concrete plant
no- thats for a concrete plant
Does that snap edging work in South Florida?
sure does
@@Dirtmonkey awesome! Thanks
What's a good permeable fabric?
Any brand as long as its thick enough for the application.