How Should Christians Use Their Vote?

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  • @fightingfinn1503
    @fightingfinn1503 2 місяці тому +86

    Remember that the pharisees wanted a political messiah to free Israel from pagan rome, and make Israel great like the other nations. Jesus did not side with them, His mission was to free sinners from sin, for both left and right, for both Jew and Gentile, and that is infinitely more important than worldly wants and greed...Vote for who you want, but Love your neighbor.

    • @phillipnoone8044
      @phillipnoone8044 2 місяці тому +1

      💯

    • @OCDrummer74
      @OCDrummer74 2 місяці тому +6

      Good thoughts … I’d shift the focus and mission of Jesus though slightly, since he spoke about his Kingdom, and inviting people to participate as the main focus it would appear. His life, death and resurrection were all key in unlocking and making the way for anyone to join and become a citizen of the Kingdom, now and yet to come in fullness.

    • @dougbaker2755
      @dougbaker2755 2 місяці тому +2

      You hit the nail on the head about the Pharisees and Rome!

    • @david.c.henderson
      @david.c.henderson 2 місяці тому

      Amen!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

    • @cipherklosenuf9242
      @cipherklosenuf9242 2 місяці тому

      Millions of Christians keep making excuses because
      Trump is the Christ of Christian Nationalism.

  • @haxelhimura
    @haxelhimura 2 місяці тому +120

    I vote based on how I was raised in church and by what Jesus teaches us:
    Feed the hungry
    Clothe the poor
    Help the migrant (something that Jesus was when He was a baby)
    Give to those in need
    Love your neighbor
    An ideal based on COMPASSION, a subcategory of the Fruit of the Spirit Kindness, and ideal that is SEVERELY lacking in the broader American Christianity today.
    If we're going to base politics on religion, Christianity specifically, THIS is how our vote should be determined, policies that follow the teachings of Jesus.
    EDIT: Just to make it clear because I don't think it is... it's not Trump.

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому +16

      But vote against child sacrifice first and foremost I hope

    • @darlameeks
      @darlameeks 2 місяці тому +29

      @@bobbobberson5627 So, sacrificing the lives of mothers is not human sacrifice? Maternal death has risen 56% in Texas since their total abortion ban went into effect. Be careful that unborn fetuses do not become an idol to be worshipped. That isn't love.

    • @darlameeks
      @darlameeks 2 місяці тому

      Amen!

    • @haxelhimura
      @haxelhimura 2 місяці тому +18

      @@bobbobberson5627 I would.... if that was actually happening, but it's not, so I won't

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому

      @@haxelhimura it is, and history will remember your barbarism.

  • @michaeljay6349
    @michaeljay6349 2 місяці тому +15

    I agree -- I care much more about attitudes than the final decision. In aggregate, righteous attitudes will do more good for our neighborhood than any government.

    • @PeaceToAll-sl1db
      @PeaceToAll-sl1db 2 місяці тому +2

      agree - that is why I voted for Trump

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 2 місяці тому +1

      There’s a road paved with certain intentions…

    • @cleverusername1894
      @cleverusername1894 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PeaceToAll-sl1db Hypocrite. Trump is the antithesis to every single thing Jesus stood for. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    • @bethrossiter1857
      @bethrossiter1857 2 місяці тому +2

      Jesus had alot to say about righteousness, and it was usu in opposition to those who thought they were right...

    • @michaeljay6349
      @michaeljay6349 2 місяці тому +1

      Though... the other road isn't paved at all with evil intentions.
      I think that proverb reminds us that (as William Penn said) "A good end cannot sanctify evil means, we must not do evil that good may come of it."

  • @ronlucock3702
    @ronlucock3702 2 місяці тому +7

    As an Australian, I'm outside your political bubble, but of course, what happens in your election will impact the whole world. As such, I find this video particularly refreshing in that it doesn't endorse one party/leader over the other. Ultimately, scripture doesn't endorse democracy at all, but says it is God who raises up kings & rulers. So whilst you have the right to have a say in your democracy, you should consider the right not to have to vote a blessing as well, because then you're not complicit in any result. Instead, spend your time praying, & just be still & know the He is God. God bless you guys.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому +3

      Wow. God bless YOU brother. Very insightful. I will vote until I am forced to compromise with the Lord; because I shall not. Very likely I am sitting one out, though I could write in somebody worthy with no expectations of winning.
      I’m in the world not of it, so it doesn’t matter much to me. However pray for our country and I will pray for yours; America is very far from the Lord right now.

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ronlucock3702 I don't think God raised up Trump to be a king or ruler. I don't think God raised up Putin, Jong Un, Erdogan, Jinping and Duterte to be kings or rulers. Common sense shows us that autocratic regimes exploit government and politics for their own advantages. This scripture does not define the current state of politics.

    • @ronlucock3702
      @ronlucock3702 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PeterJVogel I respectfully disagree Peter. Because what you're saying is either Scripture is broken, or you know better. The fact is we don't know how or why God effects His will through these leaders. Those who inflict persecution on the Christian church actually help it to grow & become stronger. I'm surprised you didn't mention Hitler, who, via the Holocaust, directly led to the reformation of Israel after WWII. As for why God raised up Trump .... maybe that's just to highlight the foolishness of those who voted for him.

    • @ronlucock3702
      @ronlucock3702 2 місяці тому +1

      @@roguedoge2479 You got it mate.

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ronlucock3702 good point. Your views transcended mine. 👍✌

  • @BrandonGraham
    @BrandonGraham 2 місяці тому +33

    Brave of you to leave the comments on. *grabs popcorn*

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 2 місяці тому +7

      I'm on my second bag

    • @BethClatterbuck
      @BethClatterbuck 2 місяці тому

      If we don’t speak out, shame on us all. The far right has enjoyed the support of loyal white evangelicals for years now. Literally, its leader could shoot someone on 5th Ave. and I’m convinced still 80 percent of white evangelicals would vote for Trumpism candidates. Where are the guardrails for the Church?

  • @yjk5737
    @yjk5737 2 місяці тому +1

    I appreciate the point that "A vote is not separate from your faith and values". Some of the discourse about Christian nationalism seems to believe that any Christian involvement in democratic politics that is informed by faith-derived values is Christian nationalism. Important to distinguish what it is and isn't. Everyone votes according to their values. You don't have to try and identify whatever the lowest common denominator for the entire culture is and vote for that to avoid "Christian nationalism".

  • @BryanSeigneur0
    @BryanSeigneur0 2 місяці тому +21

    Should we use a vote on someone who promises to use the military on all who oppose him? Should we use a vote on someone who would remove our vote or its power in the future? What if he rails against the Constitution, inspired by our Declaration of Independence, that says humans are endowed with dignity by the Creator of the universe?

  • @DestinationExcellence
    @DestinationExcellence 2 місяці тому +16

    This is the first christian voting video I've seen that speaks about policy, CHARACTER, honesty, etc. Kudos to you. Most speak about policy ONLY and say nothing about character, honesty, personality, etc., which is a serious mistake.

    • @yt5mh7kn6d
      @yt5mh7kn6d 2 місяці тому

      The bible says that there's none righteous, no not one. (Rom.3:10)

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@yt5mh7kn6d So one ought to knowingly vote for sin? Ok. Wanna tell me where what’s written, too?

    • @avalimpa
      @avalimpa 2 місяці тому +3

      @@roguedoge2479 Is January 6 sin or righteousness?

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@avalimpa Wasn’t condoning Trump. If fact I was referring to Him since every regenerate Christian can agree Kamala is evil. I’m outside the box.
      Who cares if it was or wasn’t, people vote for policies and I’m saying neither candidates honor God.
      You people claim to be Christians yet can never seem to forgive a politicians past as the Lord has forgiven yours. As long as their policies align scripturally or don’t, who cares?

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DestinationExcellence As Franklin Graham once said: "Character matters."

  • @nathanmarone
    @nathanmarone 2 місяці тому +1

    This articulates some ideas I've talked about in a pastoral context.
    The moral weight we have put on the vote is just too incredible. The choices we have on offer are both complex and binary. Complex because each party has a position on nearly everything under the sun, and binary because there are really only two viable options for the presidency. So, no matter who I vote for, I'm most likely going to inadvertently support something I strongly disagree with. This has been a glaring issue in the past few election cycles.
    But prioritization based on offices is a great way to approach this. When I tell people that I simply do not factor in domestic issues when I vote for president, they are often shocked. But my reasoning is simple: the president has the most concentrated power in foreign policy and oversight of the military. And so foreign policy is my #1 issue for the presidency and there isn't a close second.

  • @marcjohnson7669
    @marcjohnson7669 2 місяці тому +1

    Why is there only one like button??? Great job Kaitlyn!

  • @martyschrader
    @martyschrader 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you, my dear. Always well informed and informative. Christians need to use their minds and hearts to listen to the matters of public administration, which is what our *secular* government provides to our *secular* society.

  • @PeterJVogel
    @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +19

    Vote for the person who best reflects the values of Jesus. In a binary choice between the lesser of two evils, this year it's not difficult to distinguish the more Christ-like individual. Choose wisely. 🙏

    • @ann-charlotteholman7843
      @ann-charlotteholman7843 2 місяці тому +24

      It's not Trump.

    • @N.I.C.K_for_J.C.o.N
      @N.I.C.K_for_J.C.o.N 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ann-charlotteholman7843 You cannot vote for Kamala Harris if you are a Christian! She supports abortion and the Bible clearly teaches that life begins at the moment of conception. So according to the bible, abortion is murder! I don’t like that Trump doesn’t fully speaks out against it and I am definitely not gonna tell my fellow Christians they have to vote for Trump. DEFINITELY NOT! But you CANNNOT vote for Kamala. You would support the murder of millions! That’s according to the bible, not to me! Also she literally told Christians they were at the wrong rally, so that comes on top.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому +3

      Neither, since they have both compromised on the 6th commandment.

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭17‬
      “You shall not murder.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports extreme abortion rights.
      Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭20‬
      “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.”

      Kamala has lied numerous times about Trumps policies.
      Proverbs‬ ‭16‬:‭5‬
      “The Lord detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports pride.
      Proverbs‬ ‭6‬:‭16‬-‭19‬ ‭
      “There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:
      -“haughty eyes” (pride)
      -“hands that shed innocent blood” (supporting foreign wars)
      -“a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.”
      (spreading lies about Trump and comparing him to Hitler)
      Trump is not perfect. I wish he was more pro life, but he wants to protect us from criminals and drugs entering the country ILLEGALLY. He doesn’t support sinful things and has not lied about anything regarding Kamala and her stances. It’s clear who the more Christianly candidate is.

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel Місяць тому +1

      @@roguedoge2479 But Trump is compromised on the remaining 9.

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 2 місяці тому +6

    The instructions in Roman’s, Titus, and Timothy & Peter, were written when there was very little going, an all their leaders were very vile. But they still were instructed to largely obey. The few instances where they went against authority, it was person, and very clearly evil instructions, and they face the consequences of refusal. They didn’t lead an insurrection or armed group.

    • @paulasnyderbelousek2812
      @paulasnyderbelousek2812 2 місяці тому

      The instruction is not obey--but to submit or to be subject, which is about order--it is a call not to repond with violence but Christians are only required to obey God. And the Bible also cites many examples of faithful people going against leaders/rulers. Kaitlyn actually has a great video explaining Romans 13 that you should check out.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      Submitting to government/paying taxes is not the same as willingly voting for evil. Likewise if the government ordered you to do something against Gods law, you would have a spiritual responsibility to defy it, since God always is our ultimate authority.

  • @gawilliams854
    @gawilliams854 2 місяці тому +11

    Sure that is in normal times, but there are other times where all this is moot and the bottom line is: vote to install an emperor and renounce in advance any voice and rights you’ve and without any guarantees they’ll keep their word; or vote to keep your country, where you can continue to advocate for your values and hold them accountable.

    • @TwoBears3
      @TwoBears3 2 місяці тому +2

      We will have a righteous emperor instead of a harlot president. Christianity is not compatible with democracy anyway.

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 2 місяці тому

      ​@@TwoBears3 what should we have then, if not at least some form of democracy?

    • @TwoBears3
      @TwoBears3 2 місяці тому +3

      @@batmanop9254 Steadfast rule by an enlightened Christian autocrat. In other words, a king.

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TwoBears3 based.

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 2 місяці тому

      @@TwoBears3 our kingdom is not of this world. If Jesus wanted one, He would have set one up.

  • @darlameeks
    @darlameeks 2 місяці тому +9

    Matthew 25:31-46 is my voter's guide. There, Jesus describes the Judgment of the Nations (people groups). As responsible citizens, we should recognize that Jesus is here giving us the answers to the Final Exam! Heed them, for they have eternal import! It is important to see what He mentions there, but even more importantly, what He does not mention:
    Matthew 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
    34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
    37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
    40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
    41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
    44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
    45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
    46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
    IMHO, if we heed this warning and obey, all the other issues that obsess us will take care of themselves. Abortion is, after all, mostly poverty-driven. You have only to compare the abortion rate in Switzerland where abortion is legal during the first 12 weeks (6 per 1000 pregnancies) to the U.S., which has gone up 11% after abortion bans went into effect in many states (16 per 1000 pregnancies).

    • @robbower5489
      @robbower5489 2 місяці тому

      So dear Darla, according to your voter guide, will the United States enter the kingdom in your opinion?

    • @Thoughtful_Theologian
      @Thoughtful_Theologian 2 місяці тому +3

      @@robbower5489the United States is a nation and does not have the ability to enter or not enter the kingdoms of God.

    • @toreyhorton1789
      @toreyhorton1789 2 місяці тому

      The Bible promises this will happen to all governments when the kingdom ruler arrives to take control of this world.
      Daniel 2:44
      Revelation 16:14
      Revelation 19:19

    • @Thoughtful_Theologian
      @Thoughtful_Theologian 2 місяці тому +2

      @@toreyhorton1789 the nations refers to the various peoples of the worlds. Not governments.

    • @toreyhorton1789
      @toreyhorton1789 2 місяці тому

      @@Thoughtful_Theologian
      Please read them all and don't unintentionally/intentionally belittle my reading ability.
      Daniel 2:44 And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever,
      Explain to me what the term kingdoms represents in the context of Daniel chapter 2. Not people. Try again.

  • @rdrift1879
    @rdrift1879 2 місяці тому +11

    You almost convinced me to set aside my concerns and vote for former Pres. Trump...but I just can't do it.

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      Why can’t you do it? Trump is more aligned on Christian values than Kamala. I hope you change your mind! I would put away your pride and vote for Trump. He is not perfect but nobody is. He is the better canidate for our country.

    • @megami366
      @megami366 2 місяці тому +6

      Which candidate bears more fruit of the spirit: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control? I don’t see this good fruit with Trump. You know a tree by its fruit.

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      @@megami366 Trump wants peace, he isn’t the one funding the wars nor supporting it. Trump loves our country and the Americans in it. He is faithful to the Lord and faithful to us Americans. We need a strong leader not a woman who wants to continue wars, unalive babies, raise taxes and isn’t even a believer herself.

    • @rdrift1879
      @rdrift1879 2 місяці тому +1

      @@_C_3737 I am not at all convinced of that.

  • @keithcarey6312
    @keithcarey6312 2 місяці тому +3

    It’s refreshing to hear from someone who puts the principles of Scripture over partisanship.

  • @daviddorf
    @daviddorf 2 місяці тому +11

    I imagine quite a few people believe they are voting out of love for their neighbors and country, regardless of whether it is Trump or Harris. We tend to think our way is the most loving way.

    • @michaelbrowncando
      @michaelbrowncando 2 місяці тому +2

      What?

    • @kevinschultz6091
      @kevinschultz6091 2 місяці тому

      @@michaelbrowncando - "tough love", "hard work is good for the soul", "they need to learn the rules", "I'm teaching them not to be lazy", "teach a man to fish", etc.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 2 місяці тому +3

      @@kevinschultz6091love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
      Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
      I see none of that in a braggadocious candidate that dishonors… well, let’s start with Puerto Rico.

    • @kevinschultz6091
      @kevinschultz6091 2 місяці тому

      @@Justanotherconsumer - not saying I disagree, but a Trump supporter can agree with everything you just typed, and yet still use the justifications I posted.
      You wouldn't love someone and let them be lazy, would you? I mean, sloth is a cardinal sin! It's my God-given obligation and DUTY to make sure that people aren't lazy around me, and getting uppity and thinking they can take my hard-earned money out of my hand for their lazy and slovenly lifestyle. Why, I"d bet they'd travel for thousands and thousands of miles to make the Democrats force ME to pay for their slovenly, lazy, dirtiness right on my doorstep!
      Really, it's a type of love you wouldn't understand. Y'know. REAL love.

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@Justanotherconsumer"The wicked borrow and never repay, but the righteous are generous givers." You cannot be a generous giver if you borrow without a plan of repayment, because then you are sacrificing the resources of your lenders on behalf of the poor.
      "Give freely, not out of coercion" 2 cor 9:7 God does not force giving from anyone. It is the individual's decision to give. I can choose to sacrifice my own resources for the poor, but I've got co-workers who are struggling to pay bills and taxes and feed kids. I don't get to decide for them how much of their income they can afford to lose to feed and house others. That mentality violates God's heart for giving to the poor.

  • @dliz325
    @dliz325 2 місяці тому +16

    How anyone can call themselves christian and vote for abortion is beyond me. The least you can do as a Christian is vote against it. Not side with it.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 2 місяці тому +8

      Trump doesn’t particularly care about abortion, he’s not a pro-life candidate.
      Thought that was obvious from his actions in Florida?
      Abortion isn’t going to be decided by this, so what else are we looking at? If single issue voters look past their single issue, what will they see?

    • @gmontezuma6770
      @gmontezuma6770 2 місяці тому

      Oh, that’s an easy one. The Bible is filled with God killing babies, and even commanding abortion for unfaithful women.

    • @YouWearItWell
      @YouWearItWell 2 місяці тому +1

      The Southern Baptist Convention passed resolutions in 1971 and 1974 expressing support for the liberalization of abortion law, and an editorial in their wire service hailed the passage of Roe v Wade, declaring that “religious liberty, human equality and justice are advanced by the Supreme Court abortion decision.”

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@dliz325 Regardless of your views on abortion, the GOP uses abortion as a tool to tether people to the Republican Party. I'm a single white male who attended parochial schools for 12 years; abortion was always the non-negotiable. But since MAGA has hijacked the party, they are so unapologetically corrupt that it would be immoral to vote for them. I proudly support the Democrats regardless of their pro-choice platform. They are CLEARLY the lesser of two evils.

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@dliz325 GOP uses abortion to tether people to the party. It's a platform and nothing more. I'm not supporting a corrupt and immoral felon over a competent prosecutor just because of their stance on abortion. Dems are CLEARLY the lesser of two evils. No question. 💙

  • @TheBbrothers224
    @TheBbrothers224 2 місяці тому

    anyone out there seen the documentary A Case for Love?

  • @lynnglidewell7367
    @lynnglidewell7367 2 місяці тому +1

    How should they use their vote? Is that a question that really needs asking and answering??? You vote in accordance with Jesus teachings on the Sermon on the Mount.

  • @david.c.henderson
    @david.c.henderson 2 місяці тому +4

    GREAT VIDEO!! 💯💯💯 We have to stay level headed & not lose our minds! Praying for more Christians who can think independently & clearly!! 🙏🏽🙏

  • @SonicBoomC98
    @SonicBoomC98 2 місяці тому

    I'm not sure I agree that a vote isn't an expression your identity or an endorsement. More like it's not supposed to be. Too many of us feel like they have to ride or die with the people we're voting for. I don't 100% agree with everything Kamala thinks or does, but Trump only believes 2 or 3 things. If I'm voting for him, I likely agree with those 3

  • @colmortimer1066
    @colmortimer1066 29 днів тому

    I think there needs to be a bigger emphasis on using scripture to inform your vote. And always trust, no matter who wins God is in control. If you are angry, scared or anything negative, you need to pray, and read the word. I had a clear group of people and questions I was voting for, everyone I felt were the biblically best choice. Some I won, some I lost, but I was at peace with the losses, because I know God is still in control.
    If you are not a peace over worldly politics, you are probably more living for this world, and not for Christ.

  • @frankiemastin1812
    @frankiemastin1812 2 місяці тому

    Amen to that 🙏

  • @david.c.henderson
    @david.c.henderson 2 місяці тому +7

    Facts! Voting is so simple: CHOOSE THE BEST LEADER, with the best CHARACTER. ✅ This one is night & day.. Also, research shows abortions rose under Trump & Bush & went down under Obama & Clinton. (Pew Research study published March 25 2024)- “What the data says about abortions in the US”

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому +1

      Correlation =\= causation
      If we make it illegal and enforce it will def go down obviously.

    • @david.c.henderson
      @david.c.henderson 2 місяці тому +1

      Statistics show that abortions go down in every city when youth programs for girls go up, along with crisis pregnancy assistance programs, especially faith based ones. The answer is local, always has been & always will be & that’s where the money & energy need to go. The GOP basically laughs all the way to the bank with millions in gullible Christian money..

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 2 місяці тому

      The law is a teacher. It does not make us right with God but shows those under it what right and wrong are. When laws are in line with God's eternal laws evil is kept at bay. Slavery was outlawed and the matter settled legally BEFORE everyone's minds changed about owning people. Each subsequent generation under that law was trained under that moral system. Likewise when Roe was decided, everyone at the time agreed that abortion should be "safe, legal, and rare". But the generations raised under that ruling now openly celebrate it and use it as a means of birth control. Are over 70 million abortions in 50 years what you call "rare"? Every law is a codified moral system. Whatever laws a society chooses to live by are the moral systems we choose to pass on to our next generation. Why as a Christian would I choose anything other than the morals of Christ to pass on to my offspring?

    • @DestinationExcellence
      @DestinationExcellence 2 місяці тому +3

      @@bobbobberson5627 No, it won't. The War on Drugs from the 80's & 90's didn't make illegal drug usage decrease either.........

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому

      @ There is a big difference between access to a medical procedure and a substance.
      Make dope a capital crime also

  • @tomglunt7483
    @tomglunt7483 2 місяці тому

    They should vote what there mind thinks.

  • @stephenbailey9969
    @stephenbailey9969 2 місяці тому +6

    Neither Harris nor Trump represent the full goodness of God. Selecting either one requires prioritizing policies and compromising with bad things. It has always been this way in this age.
    Which is why many believers choose not to vote at all.
    However, for those who do choose to vote, let it be humbly and with prayer, calling on the Spirit to touch the conscience and guide us at this time. This is not a decision that can be turned over to pastors or presbyters or priests.

    • @cipherklosenuf9242
      @cipherklosenuf9242 2 місяці тому

      Why isn’t Pence able to convince Christians that Trump is an oath breaking disgrace?
      What happened on J6?
      It seems to me that Trump is the Christ of Christian Nationalism.
      How am I mistaken?

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому +1

      Gods children don’t compromise with evil for earthly comfort and security, truly.

    • @cipherklosenuf9242
      @cipherklosenuf9242 2 місяці тому

      @ (You probably mean “God’s” children)
      Christians have been on both sides of every social issue for hundreds of years.
      The contemporary iteration of however you practice whatever you regard as the Christian Faith is an outcome of cultural developments and compromises.
      So help me understand your perspective.
      I see millions of Christians as excusing Trump’s sins and follies,
      undermining their own professed principles, moral absolutes and devotion to the “truth”.
      Perhaps we agree?

  • @Trinity-s1t
    @Trinity-s1t 2 місяці тому +3

    The video is good overall. The Holy Post is slightly sneaky though whith what they emphasize. The character being more highlighted then policy seems a bit like a typical tipping of the scales thing that they. Which lends to the fact that they havent "trancended" like they try to say. Katlyn is the best part of the show. Its hard to not read between the lines though

    • @Peace_And_Love42
      @Peace_And_Love42 2 місяці тому +1

      When she explicitly mentioned volunteering at a Crisis Pregnancy Center (where they look to present all options except abortion), I rolled my eyes a bit.

  • @66KMT
    @66KMT 3 дні тому

    Got as far as one minute and 40 seconds before she said a vote is not an expression of my identity. Wrong! My identity first and foremost is a Christian and all that comes with it. And my Christian faith should influence every area of my life.
    “Whatever you say or do should be done in the name of the Lord Jesus, as you give thanks to God the Father because of him.”
    ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3‬:‭17‬ ‭
    “Don't be like the people of this world, but let God change the way you think. Then you will know how to do everything that is good and pleasing to him.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭12‬:‭2‬ ‭CEV‬‬

  • @mr.x817
    @mr.x817 2 місяці тому +6

    As a conservative Christian I’m voting for Trump.

    • @philipoakley2360
      @philipoakley2360 2 місяці тому +4

      As a conservative Christian American, I’m voting against Trump.

    • @JasonSmith-o2i
      @JasonSmith-o2i 2 місяці тому +1

      The adulter?

    • @mr.x817
      @mr.x817 2 місяці тому

      @@JasonSmith-o2i you are without sin?

    • @JasonSmith-o2i
      @JasonSmith-o2i 2 місяці тому

      @mr.x817 Well, I'm an atheist, so it doesn't really apply. I'm saying if you truly believe in Christian values,you wouldn't vote for the epitome of sin.

    • @TheRealAlvin500
      @TheRealAlvin500 Місяць тому

      @@philipoakley2360you lost 😂 I will enjoy your tears 😋

  • @RPlavo
    @RPlavo 2 місяці тому +1

    There is no way to vote for Barabbas!

    • @Mike-kc5ew
      @Mike-kc5ew 2 місяці тому +2

      I think one could argue that Jesus voted for Barabbas as he didn't speak against him. That said, there is no Jesus in American politics that one could pit a Barabbas against. So the whole Barabbas analogy is a little flawed to say the least.

    • @bethrossiter1857
      @bethrossiter1857 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Mike-kc5ewexcept for the pastor who said we don't want no Jesus, we want a mean tough sob - jeffress I believe- and the sheep followed. or perhaps he was just following the sheep...

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      “Give us Barabbas!” -A bunch of idiots

  • @brianjacobson297
    @brianjacobson297 2 місяці тому +1

    Read the 10 commandments and the New Testament, and ask yourself "what would Jesus do?"

    • @cipherklosenuf9242
      @cipherklosenuf9242 2 місяці тому

      No excuses…Trump is an oath breaker.

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 2 місяці тому

      Scripture tells us what Jesus _will_ do. He will destroy all these earthly nations and institute His kingdom on earth as it is in Heaven.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@kirkdarling4120 heck yeah brother 😎

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭17‬
      “You shall not murder.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports extreme abortion rights.
      Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭20‬
      “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.”

      Kamala has lied numerous times about Trumps policies.
      Proverbs‬ ‭16‬:‭5‬
      “The Lord detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports pride.
      Proverbs‬ ‭6‬:‭16‬-‭19‬ ‭
      “There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:
      -“haughty eyes” (pride)
      -“hands that shed innocent blood” (supporting foreign wars)
      -“a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.”
      (spreading lies about Trump and comparing him to Hitler)
      Trump is not perfect. I wish he was more pro life, but he wants to protect us from criminals and drugs entering the country ILLEGALLY. He doesn’t support sinful things and has not lied about anything regarding Kamala and her stances. It’s clear who the more Christianly candidate is.

  • @paulacoyle5685
    @paulacoyle5685 2 місяці тому +5

    So basically, I’m still not voting for either of the main two parties. It’s essentially voting for a party that advocates enslaving one minority, and the other party advocates and enslaving a different minority. Yeah, I may agree with some of their other policies, but that’s not good enough when the disagreement is on such a bedrock human rights issue.

    • @michaelharrington8401
      @michaelharrington8401 2 місяці тому +1

      I’m with you all the way.

    • @diyside
      @diyside 2 місяці тому +2

      I'm not voting either.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@diyside Biblical and based, this election. Narrow path all the way.

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      Remember, not voting IS A VOTE. I strongly encourage all of you to put your pride away and go vote! It’s not hard to find who is more Christianly. Nobody is going to be perfect but Trump aligns more Christian than Kamala. I hope you all have a blessed day. God bless. Amen.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@_C_3737 Pride? Humble yourself before Gods law. Why do you compromise His ways for the ways of the world?

  • @kensoldit105
    @kensoldit105 2 місяці тому +1

    It's sad that y'all have to do a civics lesson...

  • @justingarner9806
    @justingarner9806 2 місяці тому +5

    God doesn't command His children to be devoted to a political party or to vote. He does, however, command us to abstain from ALL evil and to put our confidence in Him alone. Both sides are evil and preach the same false gospel. "Vote for me and I'll make America a heaven on earth."
    There are three choices in this election:
    1.) A party and a false savior who support sin.
    2.) A party that rallies around a false savior who fits the biblical description of the lawless one. A man and a movement who are the epitome of blasphemy, heresy, and idolatry. A man who retweets he's like Jesus, claims that "he alone" can save us, and intends on pursuing Satan's objective of devouring others (retribution).
    Trump has described at length the dangerous and disturbing actions he says he will take if he wins the presidency. His rallies offer a steady stream of such promises and threats - things like prosecuting political opponents and using the military against U.S. citizens. He's mentioned mass deportations, persecutions, imprisoning political opponents, executions, putting the homeless in camps, and abandoning allies.
    It's the mission field that Christians are called to love and evangelize that he wants to go after. It's all who oppose him (including Christians). It reminds me of the poem 'First they came'.
    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist
    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me - Martin Niemoller
    3.) The Lord Jesus Christ. He is the only one who can bring us peace, consolation, redemption, and hope.
    "There's none righteous, no not one."
    The left and right wings are on the same bird. Equally guilty in the headlong flight toward a false gospel. Only Jesus is the Answer.

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@justingarner9806 who are you voting for?

    • @justingarner9806
      @justingarner9806 2 місяці тому +1

      @ Choice 3 from my list above

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@justingarner9806 you're just going to write-in "Jesus Christ?" When you have the power to stop the anti-Christ? Seems like a waste.

    • @justingarner9806
      @justingarner9806 2 місяці тому

      @ One always chooses the lesser of two evils when one is afraid of the other. Selecting a "lesser evil" reveals ones fear and lack of faith. The Bible says that it’s better to trust in the Lord than put confidence in man.
      Christians are not commanded to be devoted to a political party, to vote, or to vote for the "lesser" of the two evils. We are commanded to abstain from ALL evil and to put our trust solely in our God, 1st Thess. 5:22.
      To vote for Kamala is a vote for a false gospel. It’s a vote for abortion and the other sins that the Democrats support. It’s a vote for evil.
      The Bible says that in these last days the antichrist will come to power. I’m taking my stand against him by warning all who will listen. I’m telling everyone to put their faith and hope in the Lord Jesus Christ and not a false hope.

    • @justingarner9806
      @justingarner9806 2 місяці тому

      @@PeterJVogel The Bible tells us who stops the antichrist. It’s not going to be Kamala or any other than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself! You don’t fight against evil by supporting another evil.
      If you cast your vote for Kamala, you’re voting for someone who embraces sin. Cast your vote with Jesus, you will never regret that vote. God bless.

  • @brandonhartgraves5095
    @brandonhartgraves5095 2 місяці тому +2

    God's command for believers to love the poor will NEVER result in those who haven't agreed to that sacrifice being made more poor because of it

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 2 місяці тому

      Take care of the poor and abortion will largely take care of itself. You do realize that's the biggest reason people get them, right?

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@batmanop9254 Not because people are super irresponsible and just, don’t follow Gods law regarding premarital sex and would sacrifice their child to the devil before dealing with the consequences? You know adoption’s always an option, right?

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 2 місяці тому

      @@roguedoge2479 you might've posted in the wrong thread here, but yeah you hit the nail on the head. Ancient Israel was led astray with many gods but two they were continually tempted to follow were Baal and Asherah. Asherah was the sex goddess and Baal was the one that dealt with the pesky problem of the children that came from worshipping her. It's no wonder then that when God raised up Gideon to fight deliver Israel from her enemies outside, the first requirement he had of Gideon was to tear down the Altar to Baal in his own home. The blood of children is a first order issue. Seth Gruber has a lot of great resources on the subject. He just released a film, the 1916 project, about how the abortion birth control movement and the third Reich were both born from the same ideological movement. Hitler would write that Margaret Sanger's colleagues actually inspired his Nazi party

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 2 місяці тому

      @@roguedoge2479 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 NRSV
      [9] I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral persons- [10] not at all meaning the immoral of this world, or the greedy and robbers, or idolaters, since you would then need to go out of the world. [11] But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother or sister who is sexually immoral or greedy, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or robber. Do not even eat with such a one. [12] For what have I to do with judging those outside? Is it not those who are inside that you are to judge? [13] God will judge those outside. “Drive out the wicked person from among you.”

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@brandonhartgraves5095 I am never in the wrong place, His elect are precisely where He intends them to be 🧙‍♂️

  • @SweetSixteenInTexas
    @SweetSixteenInTexas 2 місяці тому +10

    If you love your neighbor, vote for Harris. If you hate your neighbor, vote for Trump.

    • @YouWearItWell
      @YouWearItWell 2 місяці тому +1

      The Southern Baptist Convention passed resolutions in 1971 and 1974 expressing support for the liberalization of abortion law, and an editorial in their wire service hailed the passage of Roe v Wade, declaring that “religious liberty, human equality and justice are advanced by the Supreme Court abortion decision.”

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SweetSixteenInTexas brilliant

    • @SweetSixteenInTexas
      @SweetSixteenInTexas 2 місяці тому +1

      Let's not forget that Trump abused children on a massive scale.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@SweetSixteenInTexas Let’s not forget Kamala condones killing children on a massive scale

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭17‬
      “You shall not murder.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports extreme abortion rights.
      Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭20‬
      “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.”

      Kamala has lied numerous times about Trumps policies.
      Proverbs‬ ‭16‬:‭5‬
      “The Lord detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports pride.
      Proverbs‬ ‭6‬:‭16‬-‭19‬ ‭
      “There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:
      -“haughty eyes” (pride)
      -“hands that shed innocent blood” (supporting foreign wars)
      -“a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.”
      (spreading lies about Trump and comparing him to Hitler)
      Trump is not perfect. I wish he was more pro life, but he wants to protect us from criminals and drugs entering the country ILLEGALLY. He doesn’t support sinful things and has not lied about anything regarding Kamala and her stances. It’s clear who the more Christianly candidate is.

  • @carlostorres1171
    @carlostorres1171 2 місяці тому +1

    And speaking of interpreting the law... if you wanna get really mad about Supreme Court case law going back decades... might I suggest the legal realist podcast "5-4"

  • @cam76502
    @cam76502 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m voting R for county treasurer cuz build ma wall

  • @jimpowell2240
    @jimpowell2240 2 місяці тому

    Jesus commandments: love God and your neighbor.

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭17‬
      “You shall not murder.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports extreme abortion rights.
      Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭20‬
      “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.”

      Kamala has lied numerous times about Trumps policies.
      Proverbs‬ ‭16‬:‭5‬
      “The Lord detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports pride.
      Proverbs‬ ‭6‬:‭16‬-‭19‬ ‭
      “There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:
      -“haughty eyes” (pride)
      -“hands that shed innocent blood” (supporting foreign wars)
      -“a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.”
      (spreading lies about Trump and comparing him to Hitler)
      Trump is not perfect. I wish he was more pro life, but he wants to protect us from criminals and drugs entering the country ILLEGALLY. He doesn’t support sinful things and has not lied about anything regarding Kamala and her stances. It’s clear who the more Christianly candidate is.

  • @jordanprysmiki5361
    @jordanprysmiki5361 2 місяці тому

    Well said

  • @DKboy001
    @DKboy001 2 місяці тому +6

    A vote isn't a marriage proposal, it's a chess move.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому +1

      This country sucks at playing chess then.

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому

      @@DKboy001 sounds like a transactional rationalization

    • @natefremont
      @natefremont 2 місяці тому +2

      Clearly for a lot of people, it is a marriage proposal

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DKboy001 sounds like a rationalization to support someone who is unfit for office

  • @LotusFrog_n_Sun
    @LotusFrog_n_Sun 2 місяці тому

    well, thank you, this was unexpected ( in a good way !)

  • @brandonhartgraves5095
    @brandonhartgraves5095 2 місяці тому +4

    The blood of the innocent unborn cries day and night before the throne. He hears.

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 2 місяці тому +2

      He should've condemned it directly if He cares as much about it as you do.

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 2 місяці тому +3

      @@batmanop9254 thou shalt not murder

    • @brandonhartgraves5095
      @brandonhartgraves5095 2 місяці тому +4

      @@batmanop9254 tell me, when Jesus was in His mother's womb and John the Baptist in his jumped for joy to be in the presence of the Lord, was Jesus only fully God at that point, or was he not also fully man?

    • @toreyhorton1789
      @toreyhorton1789 2 місяці тому

      @@brandonhartgraves5095 as an unborn child Jesus wasn't a man neither was he God.

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому +2

      @@toreyhorton1789 source? lol

  • @avantredguard565
    @avantredguard565 2 місяці тому +2

    I do not see Christ's love in either candidate or party. I will be voting for Jill Stein.

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      Voting for someone who will 100% not win is not a smart move. You are not making any impact.

    • @avantredguard565
      @avantredguard565 2 місяці тому

      @_C_3737 ok so which evil party should I vote for then?

  • @johnswansen192
    @johnswansen192 2 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤❤👏👏👏👏

  • @ethandollarhide7943
    @ethandollarhide7943 2 місяці тому

    Simple: Don't vote

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому +2

      Not voting is a vote unfortunately. I hope you change your mind! You still have time! Tomorrow is the day to do it. God bless you.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      @@_C_3737 It really isn’t

  • @PeaceToAll-sl1db
    @PeaceToAll-sl1db 2 місяці тому +10

    voted Trump

    • @martyschrader
      @martyschrader 2 місяці тому +5

      No.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 2 місяці тому +4

      Then your user name is false because he seeks war against an “enemy within.”
      There is nothing peaceful in what he promises.

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому

      @@Justanotherconsumer
      I hope so.

    • @PeaceToAll-sl1db
      @PeaceToAll-sl1db 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Justanotherconsumer world has been hell under harris - we are tired of her illegal wars

    • @PeaceToAll-sl1db
      @PeaceToAll-sl1db 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Justanotherconsumer ukraine, gaza, iran, africa, russia, israel, north korea, china - all gone to hell under Harris

  • @gnavajr
    @gnavajr 2 місяці тому

    Jesus said 'Love YHWH with your whole being, and your neighbor as yourself...'. I am voting out of love, openly (the 1st and 2nd time with hand on nose) for Trump because he is the worst candidate running, except for Harris who is far worse - not because people have scared me into thinking that, but because of what she has actually said (when you can understand her). Trump will continue to say stupid shit and even encourage bad behavior at times, but his policies have already helped people (of all colors) dig out of the shithole of Leftwing policies and protect America from evil actors who threaten to attack us and those are the most loving thing I can do for my neighbor in the next 4-years!

    • @PeterJVogel
      @PeterJVogel 2 місяці тому

      @@gnavajr Trump has authoritarian aspirations. Love is the last thing on his mind. He's going to surround himself with Yes-men and devote much of his waking hours to settling scores and seeking retribution. He has the worst intentions of any president in history. 👎

  • @nightix8927
    @nightix8927 2 місяці тому

    Think god I’m atheist

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      Your sentence doesn’t make sense! Who are you thanking if you don’t believe in God? I see you are just rage bating. I will pray for you. God bless.

  • @seekaloft
    @seekaloft 2 місяці тому

    3 Reasons why Christians can vote Democrat:
    1. Christians can vote Democrat because God is pro-choice (not pro-abortion). God does not force his morality on you nor coerce you to do what is right. Hence, God is pro-freewill and thus pro-choice. He honors your choice independent of whether it is right or wrong. If God can be pro-choice then a Christian can vote Democrat and be pro-choice.
    2. Christians can vote Democrat because a fetus is not a human being so terminating a pregnancy is not a sin. A fertilized egg (zygote) has a POTENTIAL to become a human being (like Adam with functional organs) but is NOT a human being until birth. When God breathed into Adam's nostrils Adam took his first breath and became a living soul. Without breathing, all of Adam's functional organs would die and death will soon follow. Likewise a newly born, like Adam, must breathe or death will ensue. Hence a human being's life starts with birth (first breath) and ends with death (last breath). So an unborn zygote (even with human DNA) is still not a human being (with functional organs) and thus does not have the full rights of a human being (right to life) until birth. Examples of life beginning at birth: Bible says it would have been better that Judas was not born. It did not say conceived. Jesus says you need to be born again not conceived again. Jesus mentions people with infirmities as being born that way and not conceived that way. Given that a fetus cannot be qualified as a human being (with functional organs), the fetus cannot be called a baby, nor a child, nor a senior citizen. To do so would be disingenuous.
    3. Christians can vote Democrat because abortion is not murder so terminating a pregnancy is not a sin. The sixth commandment "Thou shall not kill" is taken out of context when used to support abortion as murder. Many claim that "Thou shall not kill" applies to a zygote or fetus. But Jesus said that the 10 commandments can be summarized as to love God and to love your neighbor (not fetus). If it applied to a fetus then the following commands would be true: Thou shall not commit adultery with a fetus, Thou shall not lie to fetus, Thou shall not covet what a fetus has, and Thou shall not steal from a fetus. Since Thou shall not kill does not apply to a fetus claimers must find another bible verse to support their claim that terminating a fetus is murder. Otherwise, abortion is not murder.
    A Reason Why Christians Can't Vote Republican
    Many can't see how Christians can vote Republican because Republicans support a convicted sexual predator, lover of strife and discord, proclaimed adulterer, unstoppable reviler, genitals grabber, and pathological liar who is totally opposite of Christ whom they profess to serve. Some say that it's OK to follow an evil leader because God can use an evil leader for His own purposes. But doesn't the Old Testament show that after God uses the evil leader He punishes and even destroys the evil leader and followers?
    The bible does say who you should vote for. You should vote for someone who will give you a "tranquil and quiet life full of godliness and dignity". (1Tim 2:1-2) Who can that be? It is someone who is the most Christ-like. Why? Because integrity and character matters (by their fruits you shall know them) and policies don't matter as much because many candidates once elected don't follow their party, platform, and promised policies. Integrity and character are time-tested indicators of how leaders will successfully react to and handle future crises. If voting means a choice between small Satan or big Satan then don't vote at all. We are not required to make a vote that would sear our conscience.
    At the end of the day God will not ask you whether you voted for a Democrat or Republican. Instead He will ask you whether you knew His Son, did you share the Gospel, and did you show the love of God - help the hungry, thirsty, naked, sick and imprisoned. Did you love Me? Did you love your neighbor? Did you love your enemies?

    • @yt5mh7kn6d
      @yt5mh7kn6d 2 місяці тому +1

      Regarding comment #1
      You said that God does not force His morality on you, nor coerce you to do what is RIGHT.
      No He doesn't, but why would a Born Again, Bible reading,spirit filled Christian choose to do what is WRONG? I understand one falling into sin, and repenting, but not when you KNOW you're voting for a party that goes against His word.
      Regarding comment #2
      I respectfully disagree. God told Jeremiah that " I knew you BEFORE I formed you in the womb, BEFORE you were born I set you apart. ( Jer.1:5)
      Regarding comment #3
      God and God alone controls conception and He opens and closes a woman's womb. ( Gen.29:31;30:2, 20, 22:1 Sam. 1:5,6; Ruth 4:13)
      Abortion STOPS a process that Almighty God Himself STARTED as a Christian I'm not going to put my stamp of approval on that. Why would you?
      Regarding comment on why a Christian cannot vote republican.
      Yes, God does use evil people for His own purpose. He used David a murderer and an adulterer, but God also said David was a man after My own heart. ( 1 Sam.13:14; Acts 13:21)
      I do agree that the Bible helps us in making our decisions.
      The Democratic party has lit up the White House with gay pride colors and has had topless transgenders dancing on the White House lawn.
      You might not think that's a big deal UNTIL you read 2 Peter 2:6 and Jude 7 where it says that Sodom and Gomorrah was an ( don't miss this) EXAMPLE For those who live that lifestyle afterwards.
      So ACCORDING to God's word I can see CLEARLY just where the Democratic party is LEADING America.
      God's word says that homosexuals WILL NOT enter the kingdom of God. ( 1Cor.6:9)
      If I or any other Christian tries to share the Good News message about God's love and forgiveness and the need to repent to a homosexual that's now considered HATE speech by the Democratic party.
      As a Christian WHY would I vote for a party that tries to SILENCE God's word? Why would you?
      And the end of the day, God is not going to ask who we voted for, but He's going ask many, didn't you read My word??
      A spirit filled Christian will feed the hungry and all those other things you listed, but will make better decisions on just who is the better choice for leading America.
      I know Trump is an narcissist, but he's too egotistical to FAIL at running the Country. That's the kind of Doctor, lawyer, or any other professional I would choose.
      Think about that.

    • @bobbobberson5627
      @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому +1

      Ew. Forgive your father.

    • @seekaloft
      @seekaloft 2 місяці тому

      @@yt5mh7kn6d PART 1 of 2
      YOUR CLAIM: Regarding comment #1
      You said that God does not force His morality on you, nor coerce you to do what is RIGHT.
      No He doesn't, but why would a Born Again, Bible reading,spirit filled Christian choose to do what is WRONG? I understand one falling into sin, and repenting, but not when you KNOW you're voting for a party that goes against His word.
      MY RESPONSE: Comment #1 claimed that God doesn't force morality on you nor coerce you to do the right thing. You agreed. You asked: Why would a true Christian choose to do wrong?: He wouldn't. If he thought it was sin, he would choose not to sin. (Rom 14:23) However, the Bible for many issues does not explicitly say whether an issue is a sin or not. Even after referencing more scriptures the sin determination cannot be made. For those issues it wouldn't be appropriate for us not to force/coerce what we think is right upon another especially when we don't know their full situation. It is better to leave up that up to that individual and God.
      Here's an example where God does not force nor coerce morality:
      Isn't infanticide a horrible sin even to God? Then why in Ezekiel God said He hates infanticide and yet allowed Israel the choice to sacrifice their children to idols? Because God does not force morality on Israel nor coerce on Israel to do what is right. Of course God punished them later because freedom to choose is not freedom from consequences. Doesn't God say "Vengeance is mine" and in the book of Romans "every man shall give account of himself to God"? This is the case where sanctity of choice supersedes the sanctity of life.
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      YOUR CLAIM: Regarding comment #2
      I respectfully disagree. God told Jeremiah that " I knew you BEFORE I formed you in the womb, BEFORE you were born I set you apart. ( Jer.1:5)
      MY RESPONSE: Comment #2 proved that a fetus is not a human being so terminating a pregnancy is not a sin. You weren't able to disprove. Instead you provided Jer 1:5. Below I prove that Jer 1:5 is taken out of context because it fails to elevate a fetus to the level of a human being. Hence the fetus is not a human being.
      JEREMIAH 1:5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.
      This verse indicates that BEFORE the womb and BEFORE his birth Jeremiah was designated by God to be a consecrated prophet for all nations just like Paul was to be a Christian and an Apostle to the Gentiles (Galatians 1:15).
      The "know" mentioned in this verse does not mean "know as a human being". In fact, this "know" is before the womb. If taken literally this would mean that God knew Jeremiah as a pre-existent soul before conception. Since this is an unlikely interpretation, the "know" must be metaphorical and would be similar to "The Lord KNOWS those who are His" (2 Tim 2:19, Numbers 16:5) and in a negative connotation Jesus said "I never KNEW you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness." (Matthew 7:23)
      This verse shows that God has a plan for Jeremiah's life, but being formed, consecrated, and appointed does NOT mean that these references apply to a human being in the womb. Hence after-birth terms such as baby, child, individual, human being, personal, yourself, and ourself does not apply to a fetus and must not be used to elevate the fetus to the status of a human being.
      In fact the "form you in the womb" would align with the first breath perspective of Adam being "formed" from the dust of the ground. At this stage Adam was not a living human being. The taking of the first breath (at birth) would be tied to Adam becoming a living soul, similarly for Eve, and a newly born.
      Since the fetus is living and has human DNA it can be officially called human; however, it is NOT a human BEING because the life of the fetus is dependent on mother's umbilical cord and womb environment. The "being" part of human being means to be independent, separate, and self-sustaining. The fetus is human but not a human being until birth.
      There's also the problem of associating a zygote to a human being because the zygote is not in the "Image Of God". For example, the Bible says not to spill man's blood because man was made in the image of God. However, the zygote does not start to develop blood cells till the 7th day and does not have a pumping heart till around the 5th week. Also the image of God refers to AFTER BIRTH entities like Adam and Eve, and people (men) who we can curse (James 3:9), and Christ as the Image Of God (Col 1:15, Heb 1:13) and NOT to PRE-BIRTH entities like zygotes and fetuses.
      Hence this verse fails to elevate a fetus to a level of a human being. Thus the right to life of a human being cannot be applied to a fetus. Hope this helps.
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      YOUR CLAIM: Regarding comment #3
      God and God alone controls conception and He opens and closes a woman's womb. ( Gen.29:31;30:2, 20, 22:1 Sam. 1:5,6; Ruth 4:13)
      MY RESPONSE: WRONG! God is not alone in controlling conception because God decided to limit his omnipotence and has allowed man to control conception. Today conception can be done using IVF in a petri dish even if, as you say, a woman's womb is closed. Over 12 million babies have been born worldwide via IVF and about 2% of births in the US are IVF. Why do you think God controlled conception in the past but is unable to control conception today? Why does God need our help today?
      Comment #3 proved that abortion is not murder so terminating a pregnancy is not a sin. It proved that "Thou shalt not kill" command cannot be applied to a fetus so it requested that you get another verse to prove abortion is a sin. Any verse?
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      YOUR CLAIM: Abortion STOPS a process that Almighty God Himself STARTED as a Christian I'm not going to put my stamp of approval on that. Why would you?
      MY RESPONSE: Wrong. Didn't fornication and adultery start the process that resulted in abortion? Many do NOT WANT to legislate fornication and adultery (7th commandment) which are the root causes of abortion and yet want to legislate a medical procedure that isn't banned by the 10 commandments. Abortion is not mentioned in the Bible. In fact there are more scriptures that support abortion than against it. For example, in Numbers 5:11-31 a fetus is expelled as a punishment for an unfaithful wife (without consideration for the fetus) and in Exodus 21:22 the fetus is not viewed as having the same value as a human being (harm to the fetus is compensated with a payment as compared to the mother it is life for life, hand for hand,...).
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    • @seekaloft
      @seekaloft 2 місяці тому

      @@yt5mh7kn6d PART 2 of 2
      YOUR CLAIM: Regarding comment on why a Christian cannot vote republican.
      Yes, God does use evil people for His own purpose. He used David a murderer and an adulterer, but God also said David was a man after My own heart. ( 1 Sam.13:14; Acts 13:21)
      MY RESPONSE: Yes, by using your logic why can't God use a more evil person (as you say a Democrat) for His own purpose and receive more glory? You left out why David was a man after God's own heart. Didn't David repent and profess in agony his wrongdoings and then God forgave him? Does God forgive a man that continually says "I've haven't done nothing wrong!"?
      Christians continue to sear their consciences by aligning themselves with evil and need to give excuses to pacify their cognitive dissonance. Doesn't the Bible say Christians need to walk (2 John 4) and abide in the truth? (John 8:31-32) Doesn't the Bible say He that does not practice righteousness is not of God (I John 3:10) and one who practices sin is of the devil? (I John 3:8)
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      YOUR CLAIM: I do agree that the Bible helps us in making our decisions.
      The Democratic party has lit up the White House with gay pride colors and has had topless transgenders dancing on the White House lawn.
      MY RESPONSE: The Bible confirms that you should vote for a candidate that is the most Christ-like who has integrity and character. How can you say you agree with that but vote for a candidate who is totally opposite of Christ. But why would you leave out the part where the White House said that the behavior of the transgender model was inappropriate and disrespectful and the transgender model would be banned from future events? (NBC News 6/13/23 Jo Yurcaba)
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      YOUR CLAIM: You might not think that's a big deal UNTIL you read 2 Peter 2:6 and Jude 7 where it says that Sodom and Gomorrah was an ( don't miss this) EXAMPLE For those who live that lifestyle afterwards.
      MY RESPONSE: Where did I say anything about Sodom and Gomorrah? Didn't Jesus say don't judge less you be judged? (Matt 7:1) Doesn't the Bible say don't judge unbelievers like those in Sodom and Gomorrah? (I Cor 5:12) Of course God punished evil leaders in that city and every unrighteous person including those who participated and supported the evil leaders. Note that God saved only the righteous. That why Jesus did not participate with the politicians of His day including Sadducees, Pharisees, and ruling Romans. We should be careful when we empower politicians because we become partakers of their sins.
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      YOUR CLAIM: So ACCORDING to God's word I can see CLEARLY just where the Democratic party is LEADING America.
      God's word says that homosexuals WILL NOT enter the kingdom of God. ( 1Cor.6:9)
      MY RESPONSE: So ACCORDING to God's word I can see CLEARLY just where the Republican party is LEADING America.
      God's word says that fornicators, adulterers, thieves, revilers, and swindlers WILL NOT enter the kingdom of God. (I Cor 6:9-10) And neither hypocrites will enter the kingdom of heaven. (Matt 23:13)
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      YOUR CLAIM: If I or any other Christian tries to share the Good News message about God's love and forgiveness and the need to repent to a homosexual that's now considered HATE speech by the Democratic party.
      MY RESPONSE: Where did I say that witnessing is considered HATE speech? Why are you dodging the issue that you are empowering an evil man and are partaking of his sins?
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      YOUR CLAIM: As a Christian WHY would I vote for a party that tries to SILENCE God's word? Why would you?
      MY RESPONSE: Where did I say vote for a party that tries to SILENCE God's word? Why are you sidestepping the issue that you are empowering an evil man and are partaking of his sins?
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      YOUR CLAIM: And the end of the day, God is not going to ask who we voted for, but He's going ask many, didn't you read My word??
      MY RESPONSE: "read My word"? Yes, reading God's word can help you find salvation. However, reading by it self won't save you. You need to read and have faith in the redemptive work of Christ to save you. (John 3:16)
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      YOUR CLAIM: A spirit filled Christian will feed the hungry and all those other things you listed, but will make better decisions on just who is the better choice for leading America.
      MY RESPONSE: I agree with you.
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      YOUR CLAIM: I know Trump is an narcissist, but he's too egotistical to FAIL at running the Country. That's the kind of Doctor, lawyer, or any other professional I would choose.
      MY RESPONSE: Calling the Republican candidate narcissist is too kind. I would say that God hates him based on Prov 6:16-19. It fits him to a T.
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      I really enjoyed responding to your concerns. Thank-you for taking the time to read my comments and responding. God Bless You.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому

      All this long convoluted word salad is ridiculous. You know in your heart abortion policies violate Gods word and directly oppose the 6th commandment.
      Gods word isn’t up for debate. Obey or shudder each night wondering if you will wake up in judgement. Advocating for the killing of babies is completely incompatible with a heart transformed by the Holy spirit and re-born. Truly you are just trying to convince yourself and want others to validate something that scripturally, is completely evil and wrong.
      If you love Him, repent and obey rather than trying to rationalize blatant evil.

  • @lovewillbeourhome
    @lovewillbeourhome 2 місяці тому +14

    During Kamala one person shout out and said Jesus is Lord. Kamala response you are in the wrong place. How Christian vote Kamala when she intentionally said there is no God in there . Hope Christian will wake up and stand rhe truth . Not only love but truth.

    • @RPlavo
      @RPlavo 2 місяці тому

      Voting for Trump is voting for Barabbas!

    • @deneric928
      @deneric928 2 місяці тому +15

      That person was there to heckle, not spread the word of Jesus. Honestly, you could argue that they were taking the Lord's name in vain.

    • @kevinschultz6091
      @kevinschultz6091 2 місяці тому +14

      ....yeah, a number of hecklers said a lot of things, such as "lies, lies!" and "abortion is an abomination of Satan" and other similar things. "Jesus Christ is Lord" is simply the last thing one of them said (along with other heckles) right before or as she was responding.
      As to that? Yeah, they were interrupting her speech with a variety of heckles. Of course they were in the wrong place; in particular, they should have been at "the smaller [rally] down the street", which was her full response. It was a witty reply to someone who was engaging in bad-faith debate tactics (ie, interrupting when it wasn't their turn to talk.)
      Y'know. Someone who didn't know their place, and was acting above their station. One might say "getting uppity" and thinking that their words were more important than the person whose rally they were at and who organized it and who was the primary speaker. But they were conservative white Christians talking about something important to them, so perhaps you believe that such conventions don't apply in this situation.
      And if the argument is "they had every right to be there?" OK, fine - but they also had every reasonable expectation of being called out for their bad-faith debate tactics, and escorted off the premises.

    • @stephanyemaxwell7016
      @stephanyemaxwell7016 2 місяці тому +9

      That response was taken out of context that is not what she was responding to
      If you can go back and hear that part in its entirety

    • @littlequail144
      @littlequail144 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@kevinschultz6091 Thank you for sharing the context of that interaction.

  • @audioartisan
    @audioartisan 2 місяці тому +4

    Why do humans keep taking advice from humans. Ask, and you shall receive. Stop staring at a screen, and get on your knee's. Father doesn't need ad revenue. Who do you trust? UA-cam, or our Father in Heaven?

    • @kevinschultz6091
      @kevinschultz6091 2 місяці тому +2

      I'd personally like to know how the OP figured out the concept of God, prayer, and in general their entire theological framework, without talking to other humans about it.
      Ignoring the massive issue of, if we were to take what the OP says, we shouldn't do what the OP says, as they are ALSO a human offering advice. (Unless they believe themselves to be God, of course.)

    • @אמונה-לנצח
      @אמונה-לנצח 2 місяці тому +2

      ? Father. All else is idolatry. Jesus is my leader. A US president is nothing more than a carnal, unclean, idol.

    • @Kra-ri6fd
      @Kra-ri6fd 2 місяці тому +3

      People says this but when I say I feel led not to vote, they will then say, "are you sure that is God?". Yep, I'm sure. I'm not voting.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому +2

      ⁠@@Kra-ri6fd People on the broad path have no right to question the faith of those on the narrow.

  • @ann-charlotteholman7843
    @ann-charlotteholman7843 2 місяці тому +2

    PLEASE vote for Kamala Harris!

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому +3

      Lady if Christians are debating even voting for Trump we are definitely not voting for Harris.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 2 місяці тому

      @@roguedoge2479sure we are.
      Loving your neighbor is a bleeding heart liberal thing to do and Jesus commanded us to do it.

    • @_C_3737
      @_C_3737 2 місяці тому

      ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭17‬
      “You shall not murder.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports extreme abortion rights.
      Deuteronomy‬ ‭5‬:‭20‬
      “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.”

      Kamala has lied numerous times about Trumps policies.
      Proverbs‬ ‭16‬:‭5‬
      “The Lord detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.”
      ‭‭
      Kamala supports pride.
      Proverbs‬ ‭6‬:‭16‬-‭19‬ ‭
      “There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:
      -“haughty eyes” (pride)
      -“hands that shed innocent blood” (supporting foreign wars)
      -“a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.”
      (spreading lies about Trump and comparing him to Hitler)
      Trump is not perfect. I wish he was more pro life, but he wants to protect us from criminals and drugs entering the country ILLEGALLY. He doesn’t support sinful things and has not lied about anything regarding Kamala and her stances. It’s clear who the more Christianly candidate is.

    • @TheRealAlvin500
      @TheRealAlvin500 Місяць тому

      You are a fake Christian if you vote for kamala

  • @TwoBears3
    @TwoBears3 2 місяці тому +2

    As Christians, it is our privilege, right, and duty to serve as correction to the lesser peoples of this world. We are called to show them their error, and then either allow them to correct themselves or to compel that correction if they remain disobedient. We must vote for the candidate that will be most supportive of that right. Donald Trump is Christ's candidate, and the only one who will aid us in our crusade to excise the sin from our land and return it to Christ once and for all.

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 2 місяці тому +1

      You're in a cult.

    • @cleverusername1894
      @cleverusername1894 2 місяці тому +5

      That is not what Jesus taught. You are falling for a false prophet.

    • @TwoBears3
      @TwoBears3 2 місяці тому +3

      @@cleverusername1894 You are lukewarm, and will be spat out.
      The Church is the Body of Christ, is it not? If one's right hand causes one to sin, what are we to do with it? We excise it. And so we do this with our society -- removing the sinful so that the body may live with Him in eternity.

    • @daviddorf
      @daviddorf 2 місяці тому

      @@batmanop9254 That sounds like an answer from CNN.

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 2 місяці тому

      @@daviddorf I wouldn't know. I don't watch it. I'm not a fan of billionaires telling me how to think.

  • @bobbobberson5627
    @bobbobberson5627 2 місяці тому +1

    Looking forward to this mousey lady’s permanently concerned face to become more concerned after trump wins.
    The absolute smugness of the npr crowd must be snuffed out.

    • @lyds6382
      @lyds6382 2 місяці тому +14

      What exactly is the point of your insulting, irrelevant and inappropriate comment?

    • @batmanop9254
      @batmanop9254 2 місяці тому

      ​@@lyds6382 it gets him attention.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 2 місяці тому +1

      @@lyds6382control.
      Conservatives are terrified of losing control, and crushing the opposition and forcing conformity is standard operating procedure.

    • @trenthorton9532
      @trenthorton9532 2 місяці тому +2

      If I had to infer the point, it was to be insulting.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 2 місяці тому +1

      She’s very pretty

  • @robbower5489
    @robbower5489 2 місяці тому +2

    Donald Trump is perfect. He is exactly what America needs at this time in our history.
    The biggest question I have for him is why would he want the job at this point? Is America too far gone that he won’t be able to change its course?

    • @fightingfinn1503
      @fightingfinn1503 2 місяці тому +32

      Trump is not perfect, only Christ is perfect. Trump teaches the opposite of Christ, he is not your retribution...Love your neighbor.

    • @michaeljay6349
      @michaeljay6349 2 місяці тому +5

      @@fightingfinn1503 I'm pretty sure that was satire. I know Poe's law may apply here... but I'm guessing satire.

    • @michaeljay6349
      @michaeljay6349 2 місяці тому +3

      Thanks for the information. WOW!

    • @paulasnyderbelousek2812
      @paulasnyderbelousek2812 2 місяці тому

      @@michaeljay6349 Let's hope so!

    • @SonicBoomC98
      @SonicBoomC98 2 місяці тому +3

      Perfect? Why would he want the job? Honestly, why would anyone want the job? Dealing with all these people has to be one of the worst jobs you can have, but he wants it for the same reason people want any type of position. Power and Fame. I'm really hoping this is a sarcastic comment

  • @ConnorMarc
    @ConnorMarc 2 місяці тому

    Well said