August 2004 Muslim workers angry at their treatment by Greek authorities are calling on Islamic nations to boycott the Olympics. Produced by ABC Australia Distributed by Journeyman Pictures
When they say 'illegal immigrants' that just means that they came to live in Greece from an non-European country without respecting the legal procedure. It does not refer to the people who were born in Greece.There are hundreds of illegal immigrants crossing the Turkish boarder in the middle of the night daily.Bottom line is, Greece is in no position to support these people. ie:Do you think anyone can just enter the US or Canada without going through customs and then be legal the next day? ie:
Greek soul "We will not say thereafter that the Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks!" Sir Winston Churchill Everywhere you dig, you will find greek monuments...!!!
2:06 Sorry men but if you want to make a documentary about what means to be Greek you are not allowed to call a country Macedonia.It does not make sense. Macedonia is Greece since 300 BC. Everything else that is said is just propaganda.
i am a turkish and muslim man.and i understand greek people very well..lets be honest to each other..nobody wants to live with emigrants in their country..thats the truth..with my regards to greek people
Bakoyannis was born in Athens in 1954 to a Greek political family.Her family originates from Chania, Crete, and has a long tradition in the politics of Greece. Except for her father and herself, other members of the family were also prominent politicians such as her grandfather Kyriakos Mitsotakis and his brother Aristomenis Mitsotakis,
I am GREEK and I am MORTIFIED at what you are doing to the Muslim people, Let them live with you in peace and let them put up mosques it's not inferring with the Orthodox Church in anyways...
It is with Great satisfaction that I present this article from one of Greece's top newspapers to people like Mila, Lombak, Kuvvaci, Istanbullu, and so many other who would incessantly write crap about the true origins of today's Greeks.
General Yannis Makriyannis (Ιωάννης Μακρυγιάννης, also anglicized as Ioannis, Ioannes and Makriyiannis, Makrygiannis, Makrygiannēs, Macriyannis, etc.) (17971864) was a Greek merchant, military officer, politician and author, best known today for his Memoirs.
All the Greeks I know or met assimilate very well, speak the native languages, embrace and defend their new homes, contribute to their communities, and are not userpers. Can you say the same thing about muslims in Greece or Mexicans in the US, and Jews everywhere?
Something is wrong today with my robot...let me see...Oh! Eureka I forgot to mention the Fourth Law: A robot must establish its identity as a robot in all cases
The ideological distortion is not the first time that has happened to Greece.We make it clear that Arvanitis is NOT synonymous with Albania. . It is typical that the Albanians during the Greek Revolution fought alongside the Turk. Unlike the Arvanites fought alongside the Greeks.
You have to understand that Greece compared to other Northern European countries does not have a long history of immigration. Up to very recently, we used to send immigrants to other countries. So please forgive the ignorant racist comments of some people. Not all Greeks are racist and younger generations will be more welcoming in the same way as in other western countries.
These are reasons why muslims do respect Greece and love the Greek people, but nevertheless, muslims do deserve a place of worship, as Greek Christians have in muslim countries.
Today the fatherland is reborn, that for so long was lost and extinguished. Today are raised from the dead the fighters, political, religious, as well as military, for our King has come, that we begot with the power of God. Praised be your most virtuous name, omnipotent and most merciful Lord. - General Makriyannis, Memoirs
At least these muslims in Greece are surviving. They're not being tortured, they're not being put into jails, they're not forbidden to talk and learn their language. Did the same happen to the Greeks in Turkey? Why was there nothing said about that? How can one draw one sided parallel's and yet feel that they're doing a adequate report. This kind of propaganda is what has turned the world against each other. Muslims and Christians are people as long as they respect each other everywhere
The U.N. defines a country as the population aligning with the country they want to represent, and a stable government, and you need to have other countries define your country. Other countries see Macedonia as a country, the people align with Macedonia, and they do have a standing government; therefore, Macedonia is a country. That's like saying Greece isn't a country because they were dominated by the Turkish two hundred years ago.
More facts her: the second volume of Fallmerayer's Geschichte, published in 1836, in which he wrote that the Greek War of Independence was a "purely Shkypitarian [Albanian], not a Hellenic Revolution
At least these muslims in Greece are surviving. They're not being tortured, they're not being put into jails, they're not forbidden to talk and learn their language. Did the same happen to the Greeks in Turkey? Why was there nothing said about that? How can on draw one sided parallel's and yet feel that they're doing a professional report. This kind of propaganda is what has turned the world against each other. Muslims and Christians are people as long as they respect each other in all countries
It is high time we realized that these people, Immigrants, Muslims, are here! We can't kick them out, that's for sure, and we must integrate them. In particular... 1) We need to give them cultural freedoms and rights. Somebody who does not share the same cultural identity with us, does not mean that he is not entitled to exercise his religion 2) Civil rights. We must integrate them. It is horrible seeing people without chances, just because they are not greeks.
Muslims are much more in Greece and the numbers are growing, not from the outside, but from the inside, and you don't want to hurt your brothers and sisters as they don't want to hurt you or anybody.
Kemal was an UNRELIGIOUS Turkish nationalist and now most Greeks judge the whole Islam based on their experience from Kemal.... And just a reminder to all the racist comments here:shall I remind you that our invention, Democracy, and our constitution says something about Freedom of Religion...
) The DNA make-up of today's Greeks is 99.5% white. The study cliams that today's Greek has 99.5% the same DNA make-up as as the white Greeks of ancient times. 2) Contrary to beliefs by many in Turkey and certain Slavic nations of ex-Yugoslavia, Greek DNA has not been influenced, nor altered, by the mixture of Slavic or Turkish DNA, even though Ottomans ruled a large part of Greece for 400 years.
it has been very frustrating to sit back all this time and be told by the resident experts/historians like Mila and Istanbullu that today's Greek has nothing to do with the Greeks of the past or yokels like Lombak spewing his Africa theories. In fact, their statements at times were extremely racist and offensive to many greeks on this site. So, with facts I hope to dispel their false theories.
Hopelessness my religion wrought? It's actually the western values that brought hopelessness to the Muslim world. It was the fact that Islam is not being applied correctly that brought the fall of Islamic countries.
wrong i am only assisting my robot not to break the 3 laws: 1. A robot may not injure a human GREEK being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2. A robot must obey any orders given to it by human GREEK beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
the exchange of 1923 also excluded the 80.000 greeks of Constantinople (Istandul). the muslims of Thrace numbered 50.000 then, today they are 120.000!! the Greeks of Turkey were kicked out of Turkey and today number less than 5.000... who is the good guy and who is the dad guy? why didn't the journalist check that out?
Now go to Istanbul and report on the ethnic Greek Orthodox community that the treaty of exchange allowed to stay...they were 150,000 strong in Turkey, and now they are 2,500. Who is really being persecuted here, Journeyman Pictures? This is a very unbalanced and simplistic report that barely touches the surface of the complexities and the history of this entire legacy of the Ottoman occupation and subsequent population exchanges.
First of all, why is "Macedonia" shown as a seperate "nation"????. It is part of Hellenic history. Alexander the great would be disgusted. Secondly, in the population "exchange" of 1923, Greek in Constantinople and turks in Thrace were to be left to live in their "native" lands. Difference being; Greeks are of "native" decent" and turks are of of "occupier" decent. Furthermore, while the pogroms against the Christians in 1955 virtually wiped out Greeks, turks increase in population.
also there is no such thing as a christian greek. Remember Socrates that was saying that Greek is not the one born in Greece but the one that has greek education
Isn't it reverse racist to call all Greeks racist? I know my grand aunt living in Mytilene isn't racist, my cousin in Patras isn't racist, and my uncle in Nafpaktia isn't racist. That's a blanket statement and only represents that bad apples of the bunch.
Turks are Mongols!!..Greeks have the most beautiful profile,and eyes ,.and face structure in the world!...Strong proportional bodies!!!..Turks don't look NOTHING LIKE THE GREEKS!!!!
Because everybody has freedom and enjoying an easy life in Greece. Anarchy and manipulation can not be tolerated in OUR HOME. Do you steal your neighbour when you visit him? sleep in his bed? They're only visitors.
If they don't like it they can get out.... Greece is not responsible for the suffering and poverty in their countries. America is and the imperialists of the past century.They can always go there.
The "suspicion of Islam" is an excuse. The real problem is and has been the ethnonationalist perception of Greece. The Games would have not been possible without the vast amount of money donated by the EU- forget about foreign immigrants.
3) Human rights and dignity. It is unconceivable now-days "stateless people" and "non-Person" and "bureaucratic errors in handling people's applications for naturalization. This is a state where rule of law partially exists. We need to make a bridge with these people. I feel much more safer thinking that they have full access to what I have, and that they are fully integrated than living in horrible conditions, marginalized carrying out illegalactivities in order to survive. HUMAN RIGHTS NOW!
And why do you think that Northern European people are more tolerant to immigrants ? Have a look at the percentage of far-right parties in Northern Europe and you will get my point.
listen , if the illegal immigrants want to have greek citizenship i believe we should give it to them and send them to other europian countries to live legal, noone from abroad mentioned the big problem Greece is facing due to huge numbers of illegal immigrants , i would advise the owners of this video if you want to solve a problem see all the aspects
the Agia Sofi is a museum and yes there ARE MANY churches (functioning) in Turkey. Go and see and then tlk tdo not just make accusations and assumptions
every source i checked says macedonia is a country so you seem to think that a nation can only be a nation if you accept it. i understand that greek nationalists dont want it to be it but the other 6 billion people of the world do. and yes that is how you become an independent nation.
Typical Australian propaganda. Viewers should note that this report was broadcast before the Athens Olympic games in 2004. The previous Olympics were held in Sydney, Australia, and the Australian media were immensely proud of Sydney's Olympic games, especially since they were regarded as one of the best. To assure themselves of this accreditation the Australian media launched a propaganda campaign to belittle the Athens Olympics. This report is one such example.
Απαντήσεις: α) Yes you do, infact without the muslims, "our" so beloved culture of philosophy and thought would never have existed in our time. β)No mosque for them? There are plenty of orthodox churches in islamic countries. And in fact, there are plenty of Greek people who embraced Islam in the past years and who want their mosque to pray. (Εγώ είμαι ένας απο αυτούς) γ)Ok, the immigrants could go back to where they came from, but what about us Greek people living in Athens and need a mosque?
My mother went to Germany in the 1960s'... she didn't like it there...she came back to Athens...she didn't try to change a whole country....so, whoever doens't like it here can GO!!!!!! Unbelievable propaganda.....The Turk is offended my turning the mosque in Monastiraki into a museum....what about Agia Sophia in Konstantinoupoli....they are doing toilet excibitions in one of the most important, beautiful and unique churches in the world...........
Look the problem here in Greece is quite complicated. We have GREEK muslims. These things happen after 400 years of muslim occupation. These people have greek blood but different religion, they have nothing to do with arabs. The foreign muslims is another issue. I think they should be imiadiately expelled.
Epiros was no Illirian at those times, Albanians occupied it suring middlages and Ottoman occupation, Ottomans used Albanians to contol it. They forced Albanians to become muslim and ottoman cultured.Till WW II they where used against greek army and villages by Muscolini. Sorry, but Albanians could do ANYTHING for money...
get over it man, christianity is just as foreign to greeks as is islam. In fact Islam has been just as heavily influenced by ancient greek culture as has christianity
Hahahaha! Are u kidding me??? Greeks havent done anything in 2200 years, and thats why we are the RICHEST and most POWERFUL balkan country, we are in NATO and the EU, we get 16 million tourists a year (10th most in the world)..
@anicks1908 well, i didn't say that priests are saints or something!!! i am referring to this faith!!! the faith to something stronger!! and yes, it is one of the social characteristics that makes us individual!!!
WE SEE PROPER TALL MEN OF FAIRLY BROAD AND STRAIGHT BUILD,..neatly made,of fairly light skin ,..the flesh is rather firm,the limps straight,the extremities well made...The head of middling size,and moves very easily,the neck strong,the hair somewhat fair,ans soft,sometimes a little curly,the face is rectangular,the eyes bright,piercing,and full of light,for of the nations the Greek has the fairest eyes!
Why Aristidh Kolla was killed? Becouse he find the truth what you lie. The second your DNA show your noneuropean gene? So you are not old greek! The greek was a culture like latin not a nation!
Greeks krekos are not same like old greek people who lived there. Today greek language its not same with old greek! Old greek you can understand only from albanian. Today so called "greeks" are a manipulators of history.
The orthodox priest in the video said that. i do not know though if he speaks from his own mind or from what the church taught him,but he did not look that clever to have made that up by himself.What you should do is to recognize the minorities in greece and stop lying yourselves,not every orthodox is Greek.
για να λυσουμε τα προβληματά μας πρεπει πρωτα να παλεψουμε την 5η φαλαγγα που μας κυβερνα τοσα χρονια και μας εφερε εδω που ειμαστε... ολα τα υπολοιπα , με την σειρα τους , οταν ερθει η ωρα... η 5η φαλαγγα ειναι ο εχθρος !!!
I'm albanian, and agree with Greece, even that in the beging what the reporter said it's not true. Greece has to protect its identity, and i think muslims are very hypocrits because they want better life but they don't want to adapt to the cultural of europian. Greece is in Europe and is in the border of this beautiful christian continent.Still these guys are really racist. And for more than 100 years they changed the sotry. Still Greece is Europe.
The reality is media works through sensationalism, seeking to put forward a convincing thesis by pulling emotional strings, so what you see is always subjective. Ads are created in this fashion. In any event what is put here together is lacking objectivity and thorough knowledge of the subject.
and for your information her mother is Arvanitase, aka ALBANIAN. Her name is purely Albanian. Get your facts right, it takes a woman and a man to produce a child. so if you want to be any trustworthy or say anything worth reading, at least be honest. I have nothing against greeks if they stop lying
Dear Greek commando, I'm not assuming anything,i'm telling facts,I myself half egyptian,and greeks and armenians did live-in huge numbers-in Cairo and Alexandria,until the end of 60s,when Gamal AbdulNasser started to tighten things up on foreigners..and many of them still live in Alexandria..they even married and made families ther.. and when i wrote -mostly- ididn't mean most probably,i meant-most of them- and about the proof thing,you dont expect me to show u documents.
But this clip is not aaabbooouutttt Turkey.......It is about certain actions of the State of Greece. Why then you even brought up today's Turkey as well as past Turkish State as if this is some logical response to defeat and/or cover up the issue at hand HERE? I just want you to realise that this is actually a logical fallacy first of all.
I feel the only solution to the troubles of the world is for every country to be allowed to harness whatever natural resources it may possess and for the citizens of that country to be the primary beneficiaries of a nation's wealth. Look at the Middle East, awash with oil yet it only truly benefits a small group of ruling elites. If the majority of the population of Greece wishes to represent itself as an Orthodox country it should be able to as much as, say, Saudi Arabia to be an Islamic one.
greek is purely a religious term. The constitution of 1827 written by mainly Albanian population of the territories that you call greece and hundreds of documents clearly describe it, wrote: Greek is any believer in Christ who resides or will reside in territories of the ottoman empire liberated by weapons. That boy, can be any statement but certainly not an Ethnic statement, and as there is no such thing as Christ or God, your greece is a fake state. You can believe a lie to be true, fine.
what about Christians in Muslim countries? what about them, is their religion tolerated? Are they allowed to build Churches?.. Hm... let me think, the Christian comunity in Turkey has been massacred and destoyed, the one in Egypt is dailly suppressed and persecuted, in Saudi Arabia if you wear a cross you end up in jail... Would the Australian journalist want all the muslim immigrants in Greece to go to australia? I'm sure the Greek government would gladly pay their plane tickets!
the only thing to be realized here is :abolish all the religions....it is nothing more than a barrier amongst people of the world.The mater being debated here is wether or not a minority should have a proper building to pray to a spiritual entity..i mean we live in the 21st century and people still hate each other only because their particular spiritual entity is different than another one..humanity is really disappointing sometimes
AS IT GOES LIKE THAT ..SOON THE ALBANIANS WILL WANT INDEPENDENT PIECE OF LAND IN GREECE,JUST LIKE KOSOVO..MACEDONIA...AND WE LL SEE ALBANIAN TV NEWS AND ALBANIAN GOVERNMENT IN GREECE...AND SECOND OFFICIAL LANGUAGE ALBANIAN...THATS ALL THEY DESERVE..WITH THEYR ANADOLIK MINDS!
@serreosoo8 Final note - In Islam there is no room for nationalism. nationalism is a great sin. it doesnt matter where u come from & the colour of your skin. All muslims are brother & sisters in islam. this is the truth, but this doesnt mean that all muslims practise this. unfortunatelly, as in all religions, there are ignorants in Islam too. I hope what i have said will hit ground & bring an open dialogue instead of ignorant comments (although i am afraid this is too wishful thinking...)
When they say 'illegal immigrants' that just means that they came to live in Greece from an non-European country without respecting the legal procedure. It does not refer to the people who were born in Greece.There are hundreds of illegal immigrants crossing the Turkish boarder in the middle of the night daily.Bottom line is, Greece is in no position to support these people. ie:Do you think anyone can just enter the US or Canada without going through customs and then be legal the next day?
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Greek soul
"We will not say thereafter that the Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks!" Sir Winston Churchill
Everywhere you dig, you will find greek monuments...!!!
this is just anti greece
2:06
Sorry men but if you want to make a documentary about what means to be Greek you are not allowed to call a country Macedonia.It does not make sense.
Macedonia is Greece since 300 BC.
Everything else that is said is just propaganda.
I'm a Greek immigrant too, living in Slovakia, and I completely agree with you
i am a turkish and muslim man.and i understand greek people very well..lets be honest to each other..nobody wants to live with emigrants in their country..thats the truth..with my regards to greek people
Bakoyannis was born in Athens in 1954 to a Greek political family.Her family originates from Chania, Crete, and has a long tradition in the politics of Greece. Except for her father and herself, other members of the family were also prominent politicians such as her grandfather Kyriakos Mitsotakis and his brother Aristomenis Mitsotakis,
Wow the truth is coming out. What a great video. Bravo
I am GREEK and I am MORTIFIED at what you are doing to the Muslim people, Let them live with you in peace and let them put up mosques it's not inferring with the Orthodox Church in anyways...
Alyssia Ioannou Hinduism and greek religion are little bit similar
@@ForwardThinkerstv470they r orthodox christian,how can there be any similarity with hinduism with thousands of gods?
The right to build mosques in Athens should be granted only when Christian churches and Jewish synagogues are built in Mecca and Medina.
It is with Great satisfaction that I present this article from one of Greece's top newspapers to people like Mila, Lombak, Kuvvaci, Istanbullu, and so many other who would incessantly write crap about the true origins of today's Greeks.
General Yannis Makriyannis (Ιωάννης Μακρυγιάννης, also anglicized as Ioannis, Ioannes and Makriyiannis, Makrygiannis, Makrygiannēs, Macriyannis, etc.) (17971864) was a Greek merchant, military officer, politician and author, best known today for his Memoirs.
All the Greeks I know or met assimilate very well, speak the native languages, embrace and defend their new homes, contribute to their communities, and are not userpers. Can you say the same thing about muslims in Greece or Mexicans in the US, and Jews everywhere?
Something is wrong today with my robot...let me see...Oh! Eureka
I forgot to mention the Fourth Law:
A robot must establish its identity as a robot in all cases
The ideological distortion is not the first time that has happened to Greece.We make it clear that Arvanitis is NOT synonymous with Albania. . It is typical that the Albanians during the Greek Revolution fought alongside the Turk. Unlike the Arvanites fought alongside the Greeks.
You have to understand that Greece compared to other Northern European countries does not have a long history of immigration. Up to very recently, we used to send immigrants to other countries. So please forgive the ignorant racist comments of some people. Not all Greeks are racist and younger generations will be more welcoming in the same way as in other western countries.
These are reasons why muslims do respect Greece and love the Greek people, but nevertheless, muslims do deserve a place of worship, as Greek Christians have in muslim countries.
Today the fatherland is reborn, that for so long was lost and extinguished. Today are raised from the dead the fighters, political, religious, as well as military, for our King has come, that we begot with the power of God. Praised be your most virtuous name, omnipotent and most merciful Lord.
- General Makriyannis, Memoirs
At least these muslims in Greece are surviving. They're not being tortured, they're not being put into jails, they're not forbidden to talk and learn their language. Did the same happen to the Greeks in Turkey? Why was there nothing said about that? How can one draw one sided parallel's and yet feel that they're doing a adequate report. This kind of propaganda is what has turned the world against each other. Muslims and Christians are people as long as they respect each other everywhere
The U.N. defines a country as the population aligning with the country they want to represent, and a stable government, and you need to have other countries define your country. Other countries see Macedonia as a country, the people align with Macedonia, and they do have a standing government; therefore, Macedonia is a country. That's like saying Greece isn't a country because they were dominated by the Turkish two hundred years ago.
More facts her:
the second volume of Fallmerayer's Geschichte, published in 1836, in which he wrote that the Greek War of Independence was a "purely Shkypitarian [Albanian], not a Hellenic Revolution
At least these muslims in Greece are surviving. They're not being tortured, they're not being put into jails, they're not forbidden to talk and learn their language. Did the same happen to the Greeks in Turkey? Why was there nothing said about that? How can on draw one sided parallel's and yet feel that they're doing a professional report. This kind of propaganda is what has turned the world against each other. Muslims and Christians are people as long as they respect each other in all countries
All muslims out of Europe by force, if a Government wont do it the Citizens should do it .... organize everywhere
I dont give a shit, im PROUD TO BE GREEK. HEAR THAT, TURKS AND ALBOS.
It is high time we realized that these people, Immigrants, Muslims, are here! We can't kick them out, that's for sure, and we must integrate them. In particular...
1) We need to give them cultural freedoms and rights. Somebody who does not share the same cultural identity with us, does not mean that he is not entitled to exercise his religion
2) Civil rights. We must integrate them. It is horrible seeing people without chances, just because they are not greeks.
Muslims are much more in Greece and the numbers are growing, not from the outside, but from the inside, and you don't want to hurt your brothers and sisters as they don't want to hurt you or anybody.
She has NOTHING to do with Albanians.
Kemal was an UNRELIGIOUS Turkish nationalist and now most Greeks judge the whole Islam based on their experience from Kemal....
And just a reminder to all the racist comments here:shall I remind you that our invention, Democracy, and our constitution says something about Freedom of Religion...
) The DNA make-up of today's Greeks is 99.5% white. The study cliams that today's Greek has 99.5% the same DNA make-up as as the white Greeks of ancient times.
2) Contrary to beliefs by many in Turkey and certain Slavic nations of ex-Yugoslavia, Greek DNA has not been influenced, nor altered, by the mixture of Slavic or Turkish DNA, even though Ottomans ruled a large part of Greece for 400 years.
A country belongs to its people and not to EU politicians.
it has been very frustrating to sit back all this time and be told by the resident experts/historians like Mila and Istanbullu that today's Greek has nothing to do with the Greeks of the past or yokels like Lombak spewing his Africa theories. In fact, their statements at times were extremely racist and offensive to many greeks on this site. So, with facts I hope to dispel their false theories.
Hopelessness my religion wrought? It's actually the western values that brought hopelessness to the Muslim world. It was the fact that Islam is not being applied correctly that brought the fall of Islamic countries.
wrong i am only assisting my robot not to break the 3 laws:
1. A robot may not injure a human GREEK being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey any orders given to it by human GREEK beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
the exchange of 1923 also excluded the 80.000 greeks of Constantinople (Istandul). the muslims of Thrace numbered 50.000 then, today they are 120.000!! the Greeks of Turkey were kicked out of Turkey and today number less than 5.000... who is the good guy and who is the dad guy? why didn't the journalist check that out?
Now go to Istanbul and report on the ethnic Greek Orthodox community that the treaty of exchange allowed to stay...they were 150,000 strong in Turkey, and now they are 2,500. Who is really being persecuted here, Journeyman Pictures? This is a very unbalanced and simplistic report that barely touches the surface of the complexities and the history of this entire legacy of the Ottoman occupation and subsequent population exchanges.
First of all, why is "Macedonia" shown as a seperate "nation"????. It is part of Hellenic history. Alexander the great would be disgusted. Secondly, in the population "exchange" of 1923, Greek in Constantinople and turks in Thrace were to be left to live in their "native" lands. Difference being; Greeks are of "native" decent" and turks are of of "occupier" decent. Furthermore, while the pogroms against the Christians in 1955 virtually wiped out Greeks, turks increase in population.
also there is no such thing as a christian greek. Remember Socrates that was saying that Greek is not the one born in Greece but the one that has greek education
Isn't it reverse racist to call all Greeks racist? I know my grand aunt living in Mytilene isn't racist, my cousin in Patras isn't racist, and my uncle in Nafpaktia isn't racist. That's a blanket statement and only represents that bad apples of the bunch.
Turks are Mongols!!..Greeks have the most beautiful profile,and eyes ,.and face structure in the world!...Strong proportional bodies!!!..Turks don't look NOTHING LIKE THE GREEKS!!!!
Because everybody has freedom and enjoying an easy life in Greece.
Anarchy and manipulation can not be tolerated in OUR HOME.
Do you steal your neighbour when you visit him? sleep in his bed? They're only visitors.
Well, until Turkey responds to the Pondos question nothing will change.
Respond chameria
If they don't like it they can get out....
Greece is not responsible for the suffering and poverty in their countries.
America is and the imperialists of the past century.They can always go there.
The "suspicion of Islam" is an excuse. The real problem is and has been the ethnonationalist perception of Greece. The Games would have not been possible without the vast amount of money donated by the EU- forget about foreign immigrants.
3) Human rights and dignity. It is unconceivable now-days "stateless people" and "non-Person" and "bureaucratic errors in handling people's applications for naturalization. This is a state where rule of law partially exists.
We need to make a bridge with these people. I feel much more safer thinking that they have full access to what I have, and that they are fully integrated than living in horrible conditions, marginalized carrying out illegalactivities in order to survive. HUMAN RIGHTS NOW!
And why do you think that Northern European people are more tolerant to immigrants ?
Have a look at the percentage of far-right parties in Northern Europe and you will get my point.
are turks so much more tolerant?
@sasik3 yes you do. Tulumba, Lokum, Kadaif, Mekici, Malidzano, Burek, and the drink Rakija can all be found in Turkey.
yes go hide yourself and charge your batteries...your 20 min.autonomy energy is something i must fix on this robot
listen , if the illegal immigrants want to have greek citizenship i believe we should give it to them and send them to other europian countries to live legal, noone from abroad mentioned the big problem Greece is facing due to huge numbers of illegal immigrants , i would advise the owners of this video if you want to solve a problem see all the aspects
You just wait, just wait...
the Agia Sofi is a museum and yes there ARE MANY churches (functioning) in Turkey. Go and see and then tlk tdo not just make accusations and assumptions
now thats a good argument, good job. name calling shows intelligence and social skills.
every source i checked says macedonia is a country so you seem to think that a nation can only be a nation if you accept it. i understand that greek nationalists dont want it to be it but the other 6 billion people of the world do. and yes that is how you become an independent nation.
Typical Australian propaganda.
Viewers should note that this report was broadcast before the Athens Olympic games in 2004. The previous Olympics were held in Sydney, Australia, and the Australian media were immensely proud of Sydney's Olympic games, especially since they were regarded as one of the best. To assure themselves of this accreditation the Australian media launched a propaganda campaign to belittle the Athens Olympics. This report is one such example.
They can go to USA or Britain,who created the problems and the poverty in their countries and made them run away.
Απαντήσεις:
α) Yes you do, infact without the muslims, "our" so beloved culture of philosophy and thought would never have existed in our time.
β)No mosque for them? There are plenty of orthodox churches in islamic countries. And in fact, there are plenty of Greek people who embraced Islam in the past years and who want their mosque to pray. (Εγώ είμαι ένας απο αυτούς)
γ)Ok, the immigrants could go back to where they came from, but what about us Greek people living in Athens and need a mosque?
please tell me for what i am wrong the priest said it himself :who is baptised is greek who is not baptised is turk.
what is wrong in what i said?
My mother went to Germany in the 1960s'... she didn't like it there...she came back to Athens...she didn't try to change a whole country....so, whoever doens't like it here can GO!!!!!! Unbelievable propaganda.....The Turk is offended my turning the mosque in Monastiraki into a museum....what about Agia Sophia in Konstantinoupoli....they are doing toilet excibitions in one of the most important, beautiful and unique churches in the world...........
We learned all we needed to know about Islam on 9/11.
Look the problem here in Greece is quite complicated. We have GREEK muslims. These things happen after 400 years of muslim occupation. These people have greek blood but different religion, they have nothing to do with arabs. The foreign muslims is another issue. I think they should be imiadiately expelled.
Epiros was no Illirian at those times, Albanians occupied it suring middlages and Ottoman occupation, Ottomans used Albanians to contol it. They forced Albanians to become muslim and ottoman cultured.Till WW II they where used against greek army and villages by Muscolini. Sorry, but Albanians could do ANYTHING for money...
yeah , right ...
dream on ...
get over it man, christianity is just as foreign to greeks as is islam. In fact Islam has been just as heavily influenced by ancient greek culture as has christianity
greek is beautiful language
Dora Bakoyannis (Greek: Ντόρα Μπακογιάννη), born Theodora Mitsotaki (Greek: Θεοδώρα Μητσοτάκη; May 6, 1954),
I think you have a problem hearing and understanding Mr. Spartan. That is not what he said and you have taken things out of context.
Gotta love Greek People!!
s'agapw
Hahahaha! Are u kidding me???
Greeks havent done anything in 2200 years, and thats why we are the RICHEST and most POWERFUL balkan country, we are in NATO and the EU, we get 16 million tourists a year (10th most in the world)..
agree-but in the northern europe it is almost like a protest vote. In Greece it is still very mainstream.
It takes time.
IM NOT MUSLIM, IM NOT CHRISTIAN...EIMAI EΛΛHN.
@anicks1908 well, i didn't say that priests are saints or something!!! i am referring to this faith!!! the faith to something stronger!! and yes, it is one of the social characteristics that makes us individual!!!
Now that's my baby robot...
...start with single words...and i assure you a real phrase in the future
WE SEE PROPER TALL MEN OF FAIRLY BROAD AND STRAIGHT BUILD,..neatly made,of fairly light skin ,..the flesh is rather firm,the limps straight,the extremities well made...The head of middling size,and moves very easily,the neck strong,the hair somewhat fair,ans soft,sometimes a little curly,the face is rectangular,the eyes bright,piercing,and full of light,for of the nations the Greek has the fairest eyes!
Ha ha ha
...Captain Spock...we have a problem...reboot our British
judyroodi robot to his originally shit talk...HA ha ha!!!
actually the greeks are a big player in the world market, economically the greeks countrol most of the balkans.
Why Aristidh Kolla was killed? Becouse he find the truth what you lie. The second your DNA show your noneuropean gene? So you are not old greek! The greek was a culture like latin not a nation!
Greeks krekos are not same like old greek people who lived there. Today greek language its not same with old greek! Old greek you can understand only from albanian. Today so called "greeks" are a manipulators of history.
You mast be out of your mind!!!!..My mother is a blond with blue eyes and she is 100%Greek!!!!40%of the Greek population have blue eyes!!!!
The orthodox priest in the video said that.
i do not know though if he speaks from his own mind or from what the church taught him,but he did not look that clever to have made that up by himself.What you should do is to recognize the minorities in greece and stop lying yourselves,not every orthodox is Greek.
I say bravo to greece for trying to keep their identity intact.
England/France could take a lesson from them.
What do you drink? Give us some, to polish our shoes!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
για να λυσουμε τα προβληματά μας πρεπει πρωτα να παλεψουμε την 5η φαλαγγα που μας κυβερνα τοσα χρονια και μας εφερε εδω που ειμαστε...
ολα τα υπολοιπα , με την σειρα τους , οταν ερθει η ωρα...
η 5η φαλαγγα ειναι ο εχθρος !!!
I'm albanian, and agree with Greece, even that in the beging what the reporter said it's not true. Greece has to protect its identity, and i think muslims are very hypocrits because they want better life but they don't want to adapt to the cultural of europian. Greece is in Europe and is in the border of this beautiful christian continent.Still these guys are really racist. And for more than 100 years they changed the sotry. Still Greece is Europe.
The reality is media works through sensationalism, seeking to put forward a convincing thesis by pulling emotional strings, so what you see is always subjective. Ads are created in this fashion. In any event what is put here together is lacking objectivity and thorough knowledge of the subject.
and for your information her mother is Arvanitase, aka ALBANIAN.
Her name is purely Albanian. Get your facts right, it takes a woman and a man to produce a child. so if you want to be any trustworthy or say anything worth reading, at least be honest. I have nothing against greeks if they stop lying
We understand... Now you wait a little while and we will make you understand as well.....
We learned all we need to know about Islam on 9/11.
Dear Greek commando, I'm not assuming anything,i'm telling facts,I myself half egyptian,and greeks and armenians did live-in huge numbers-in Cairo and Alexandria,until the end of 60s,when Gamal AbdulNasser started to tighten things up on foreigners..and many of them still live in Alexandria..they even married and made families ther..
and when i wrote -mostly- ididn't mean most probably,i meant-most of them-
and about the proof thing,you dont expect me to show u documents.
But this clip is not aaabbooouutttt Turkey.......It is about certain actions of the State of Greece. Why then you even brought up today's Turkey as well as past Turkish State as if this is some logical response to defeat and/or cover up the issue at hand HERE? I just want you to realise that this is actually a logical fallacy first of all.
I feel the only solution to the troubles of the world is for every country to be allowed to harness whatever natural resources it may possess and for the citizens of that country to be the primary beneficiaries of a nation's wealth. Look at the Middle East, awash with oil yet it only truly benefits a small group of ruling elites. If the majority of the population of Greece wishes to represent itself as an Orthodox country it should be able to as much as, say, Saudi Arabia to be an Islamic one.
@deouwehoer is that why all the news say democracy is failing in turkey?
there are more then 1 million greek living in pakistan, kalash province .
greek is purely a religious term.
The constitution of 1827 written by mainly Albanian population of the territories that you call greece and hundreds of documents clearly describe it, wrote:
Greek is any believer in Christ who resides or will reside in territories of the ottoman empire liberated by weapons.
That boy, can be any statement but certainly not an Ethnic statement, and as there is no such thing as Christ or God, your greece is a fake state. You can believe a lie to be true, fine.
I am not sure if this is British, the presenter speaks with an Australian accent. I love Greece and am from England (Not Britain)
An Albanian Ethnic?we are in the good road
what about Christians in Muslim countries? what about them, is their religion tolerated? Are they allowed to build Churches?.. Hm... let me think, the Christian comunity in Turkey has been massacred and destoyed, the one in Egypt is dailly suppressed and persecuted, in Saudi Arabia if you wear a cross you end up in jail... Would the Australian journalist want all the muslim immigrants in Greece to go to australia? I'm sure the Greek government would gladly pay their plane tickets!
the only thing to be realized here is :abolish all the religions....it is nothing more than a barrier amongst people of the world.The mater being debated here is wether or not a minority should have a proper building to pray to a spiritual entity..i mean we live in the 21st century and people still hate each other only because their particular spiritual entity is different than another one..humanity is really disappointing sometimes
its accepted as a country by most governments in the world. so yes, it is. just because a few nationalists think otherwise that doesnt change reality
AS IT GOES LIKE THAT ..SOON THE ALBANIANS WILL WANT INDEPENDENT PIECE OF LAND IN GREECE,JUST LIKE KOSOVO..MACEDONIA...AND WE LL SEE ALBANIAN TV NEWS AND ALBANIAN GOVERNMENT IN GREECE...AND SECOND OFFICIAL LANGUAGE ALBANIAN...THATS ALL THEY DESERVE..WITH THEYR ANADOLIK MINDS!
@serreosoo8 Final note - In Islam there is no room for nationalism. nationalism is a great sin. it doesnt matter where u come from & the colour of your skin. All muslims are brother & sisters in islam. this is the truth, but this doesnt mean that all muslims practise this. unfortunatelly, as in all religions, there are ignorants in Islam too. I hope what i have said will hit ground & bring an open dialogue instead of ignorant comments (although i am afraid this is too wishful thinking...)