I had a whole home generator installed (Generac) since we have Natural Gas, we needed to have a 3/4” gas supply line installed by the gas company (replacing the old 1/2” line). Works great. Kicks on automatically.
A whole house standby Generac with natural gas, and/or a 1,000 gallon propane tank is the way to go, even with a 500 gallon propane pig. Hauling and storing gasoline is not the way to go.
Josh, when I built my home I installed a 20,000 watt, whole-house generator. There is about a five second delay between loosing power and generator startup. We go to warmer parts for the winter and it gives peace of mind knowing our home will be fine. The generator uses natural gas but could be powered by propane if necessary.
In 2008 I bought a small generator. A week after I had the transfer switch installed a powerful Nor'easter came through and dumped 4 feet of snow. It took the power out for 4 days. It saved my house from major damage from frozen pipes etc. Well 15 years later I still have it. Once a month I start it and run the house on it for a short time. I can't tell you how many times it has saved me. I have a philosophy about owning a generator. It's similar to having health insurance. It's there if you need it. If you don't have it and need it then your shit out of luck.
That's a good point. Even though I use non-Ethanol fuel I run my generator for a few minutes every month during the winter and every 3 months during the summer.
That's a good point. Even though I use non-Ethanol fuel I run my generator for a few minutes every month during the winter and every 3 months during the summer.
In 1998, I got my Generac XL 5500. This was to be ready for 2000. I used to run it once a month, but that got to be a pain in the butt. So I read the manual and placed it into long term storage mode. Change the oil&filter, run it out of gas, place an little oil in the cylinder and pull the handle a cycle until the valves close, then put the plug back in. It sat there for several years until the first big outage. Then it started on one pull and ran the house for a few days. Then, it goes back into storage mode. Now I only fire it up once a year and run some vacuums to make sure the windings work, but the rest of the year it stays in storage mode. It gets an emergency work out about every 5 years, and still starts on the first pull. It is the best maintained motor at our house.
Looks great Brother. That is some serious peace of mind in a box, may you never need to use it. There is NOTHING like being prepared. Also remember Josh, No matter WHAT you do, some people will not like you and that's OK. Not everyone has good taste. Give our best to Mrs. Stoney Ridge, I wish you the best my friend. God Bless
we got the 13000 kw 8 years ago fom them.. we powered our shop and when the power would go out we back feed the house as well. worked great for years. now we have a gas powered 32,000 kw back up for everything. we built a fancy house over ours on one of there 4 wheel pull trailors. A idea..
The NorthStar e14000s Commercial-Grade Generator looks right at home on your farm, Josh! So glad you had a smooth pickup experience at the Colfax store, and that your first impressions of the unit are positive. We're looking forward to hearing more feedback the longer you use the machine. Take care!
Since this is for emergencies, after putting in the transfer switch, how much gas will you be storing for this unit. 12 gal for 10 hours run time for 6000W. So for each day, if you run it all day, you will need 27 gallons of fuel, and 100 Gal may last 4 days. Then, you have to rotate your emergency fuel every 6 months, if you do not run propane. Since the tractor is diesel, did you consider a PTO Generator, or a diesel generator for backup power?
Yes pto generator is an excellent option. I have a 2210 tractor w/ pto generator have had in 04 & 09 ran it for 24/7/3days rest of emergency’s only 4/12 hrs
Was a service advisor for Dodge. I've had customers vehicles awaiting parts longer than that. I felt bad for the guy. Brand new truck, he only had it two months. I had it four.
Wish I had a Northern Tool near me. Nice generator as I too am in the market for one but with pure sine wave technology to power all my sensitive electronics.
We're growing at a steady pace, so there's a chance we'll have a store near you soon! We also wanted to share that all the new NorthStar generators are manufactured with less than 5% THD so that sensitive electronics are safe.
I was able to pick up a Generator for the house this summer. When we had the house built, had the electricians install a hook up for a generator, will be able to run the essentials plus!
We changed houses last year and this spring I built an outbuilding. For the outbuilding, I ran 10-4 power in both directions under ground. For normal times 240V/30 amp can be sent to the building, and in an emergency 240V/30 amps can be sent to the house and run through a transfer switch. It was twice the amount of cable, but it gives a lot of options.
The last house I had an interlock and 50 feet of 10- 4 rubber tool cable to get from the outbuilding to the house. It was always raining, or snowing when plugging it into the house and generator. I did not think about 2 cables when I did the last house. This time, It will be better with 2 underground cables and hopefully I will get a 50 amp, 10 position manual transfer switch for Christmas(my wife needed an idea). If everything works out, I will be able to set it up with an option for an inline whole house UPS system. And like the last house, there will be a protocol to follow for the rest of the family if I am not home when it is needed. @@jtc1947
You should do a video of a transfer switch installation so the generator can be connected directly to your house. A very valuable feature would be the ability to run the unit on propane.
@@jtc1947 I don't write a bunch, only suggest. Most won't read, and the few that do, want me to do it for them for free. So I no longer expound on them.
Hey Josh! After seeing your generator, I ran by Northern Tool & Equipment to research a similar genny to handle our house. We currently have a 7.5kW pull-start Ryobi that connects via big cable to a subpanel that runs the circuits powering heat, well, freezer, fridges, and kit/LR/master BR. However, we put a heat pump to replace the main AC and configured our heat as electric above 35F and LP below. So we need to get HVAC and electrician to add the heat pump to the generator subpanel, and to advise how big the generator needs to be. I expect the little brother to yours, at about 10kW, would be good. Then the little missus could start it. I really like the fuel/oil/filter life indicators. Thanks for showing the tool!
In the past I sold similar products. Northstar has a good reputation. Our personal generator has a 4,000 watt capacity. So that’s fridge, freezer, etc. And, it’s not quiet. I give you high marks for your generator selection.
Well pump....HVAC that's what keeps your pipes from freezing my friend. Fridge, freezer doesn't draw much but hot water, HVAC and well pump is what we're really after to keep us from having to spend the $$$ to repair everything that breaks when frozen
@@bcgrittner Hope that You have Excellent SECURITY against theft? Penpal worked for a power utility and a FARMER had His generator stolen. Had NO idea until the house turned cold. The thieves powered up a lawn mower to hide the theft! BE CAREFUL!
You did the right thing! A portable gasoline generator is the way to go IMO. Natural gas standby is dependent on things beyond your control. Propane is WAAAYYY too expensive to run for long periods.
You mean that propane does not need to be rotated every 6 months like stabilized gas. Also in an emergency, cost becomes irrelevant when you need to stay warm in the winter while keeping the fridge and freezers cold. It is all temporary and usually never more than a week. @@Ragecon87
Gasoline under Bidenomics is very expensive now, and will be hard to get in time, and certainly under a massive power outage or EMP. , and will only get worse. Propane is only $1.59. Plenty of propane and natural gas.
@@Ragecon87 Propane is substantially less energy dense. Then you have the expense of tanks or a giant tank on the property subject to being dependent on the propane company coming to refill. Trust me, I know. I have lived through countless hurricanes.
My 16KW Generac Standby under a full load is only 1.5 to 2 gallons of clean power per hour. Under a half load about 1 gallon of propane, and I use a lot of power. Propane stores nicely and doesn't go bad. 1,000 gallons would last me for about a month. Storing propane is compact, unlike gasoline. Propane is safer. Good luck with gasoline if you can get it.
Josh that is one heck of a portable generator, I love all the features. My favorite would be the carbon monoxide detector! When Monique and I had our house built the only thing I wanted was a standby generator! After hurricane Sandy hit Long Island, I would never want to go without power like that again.
Nice generator.... make a Faraday cage around it tbough... or could be worthless. ALSO, buy a back-up 6-8k Dual Fuel as a backup, like Diesel Propane, or gas/propane if this one is diesel
Very good reminder for anyone shopping for generators! We've manufactured the entire line of new NorthStar generators with less than 5% THD so all electronics are safe.
I’m gonna invest in a MANGO battery backup system; I have an 8500 plus 2 others but I plan to convert the 8500 to propane! Good luck with your project.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer ive built 3 med size systems 2400 min. watt solar panels GIandel inverter outback 80 charge controller and 8 12volt 300 ah CHINS BATTERIES all 3 have been running for over 4 years
Wow! That's niiiiiicce!! 😎👍 And here I was feeling all special for finally buying the Oupes 5 solar generator! LOL! (can't wait for my first shipment of your delicious product!)
Do you have a transfer switch installed that allows you to run both the shop and the house? Also, there are several UA-cam videos on building a generator enclosure that has ventilation for exhaust and keeping the gen cool.
@Terrance? Do Hope that Josh & Wife will show us the "shelter build" for the generator? Can't just leave that piece of gear out and exposed to the weather.
Love how they compare to Honda engine. Just like the Predator. BUT it ain’t no Honda engine. 😂Looks nice. Even though it’s fuel injected it’s imperative to have fresh fuel and run it periodically.
Right, everyone says "Just like a Honda". LOL I use only non-Ethanol fuel in my Honda EU7000. Using non-corn juice in these is the best thing you can do to ensure reliability. I also noticed there is no pull-start backup on the Northern unit. Probably because no one would have the strength to pull the cord anyway. Keep a jump box handy.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmerHmmm.. BETTER than Honda? I guess that's why most commercial equipment like log splitters, water pumps, trash pumps, fuel trailers, etc. all use Northern engines. Only time will tell. Every time someone comes out with something brand new it's suddenly "Better than Honda". I'm not saying Honda is flawless, but their reputation was built over time. Will it start in minus temperatures? Will it continue to run when it's over 100 degrees? I mean, everything works great right out of the box. Time is the only judge of reliability and dependability. It definitely looks like a nice unit power-wise and feature-wise but keep in mind all those fancy whistles and bells can fail and I doubt you'll have much luck with replacement parts. Let's circle back in 10 years and see how it's doing. Again, I hope it does well.
Warning - with EFI generator (from COSTCO) it will not start without battery (EMERGENCY pull start does not work). you better make sure you have a working battery for emergencies!
Generally batteries don't completely die, they may not have power to start the generator, but can sustain it while it's running. Much like when your car clicks when the battery is dead, some power just not enough
@@matt45540 NOT the case based on experience it would NOT run with old battery when doing pull start. As soon as new battery installed, it worked fine.
Hybrid Solar with generator backup. Start with minimal battery backup and increase when you can afford. In the long run electricity will rise in price as reliable generator( nuclear/coal);are shut down and partly replaced by erratic renewable wind solar and hydro
I personally woulda gone with. 20+kwh generac uses propane/ natural gas’s which is super efficient and has the sense to auto start when loss of power is detected
When I looked at the price of the Northstar generator, it is $4300. I did not think that it would be that expensive. For another $300, you can get the 14 kw Generac with the whole house transfer switch.
@ Isaiah...With the gub trying to get rid of various types of gasses might think of alternates? I know that I read something about the GREEN NEW DEAL IDIOTS trying to get rid of NATURAL GAS due to METHANE??? BE WELL & SAFE
We are thinking of buying a new car. Some hybrid cars allow power out and to use the car’s engine to charge the battery. We are looking at the Mitsubishi Outlander which has this feature. It could be a way to power a few important appliances like a fridge or freezer if there is a blackout. Of course if the car needs to be driven the appliances no longer have power.
Northern Tool service dept said they are having some problems with the North Star line. Hopefully they will be sorted out soon. Their Powerhorse line, I believe, has a 13K then goes up to a 20K. ALL Powerhorse and North Star generators are 5% or less thd, and all can be serviced at their stores.
Well Josh, most of us like what we like for some reason ro another. But FoundOnRoadDead would be the last pic of any vehicle for me. I have had my experiences in the past. For the money the Raptor cost, you could have had one kick ass Toyota Tundra.
I don't think I'd be toting it around the farm, those type electronics are somewhat fragilly. If you need a gen, say out in the field to repair a piece of equipment, I'd just get a bobcat welder/generator to power up the the tools needed to get something ready to weld, and then weld it and be done. When they compare themselves to Honda, it just tells me they aren't quiet as good. True it has no carb to gum up, but, injectors gum up too. Fuel tanks also gum up. Esp when they sit for long periods, so, at least once a month start up and run is imperative. I know it's costly, but I'd run ethanol free fuel. Since you live a good ways away from the shop(as of now anyway) You should get yourself one of those alarms like they use on chicken houses that give off a loud alarm to let you know the power is out. Since it doesn't seem this doesn't have an auto start. I think in the future, I get something like the Generac whole home gen with auto start. Then, a trip for a few days out of town will give you more piece of mind. A propane system at that, so it will be worry free in case of something big (think of what happened when Hugo came through or, the blizzard of '93.) I know you probably got it for free or at least a good deal since they sponsor you, but, free isn't always better. One question though, I see the need to have power run into it to keep the battery up to snuff, but surely it charges it's own battery when running, right?
Looks like a great generator...almost bought a smaller different brand generator on cyber-Monday but ran into a comment about THD (Total Harmonic Distortion). Apparently, generators that produce "dirty" electricity Arnt safe to use with sensitive electronics ...i e systems in newer homes... couldn't load the link for this generator but Norther tool did claim all of its generators produce under 6% THD. Is this something you looked for when buying or is it mentioned anywhere? Sounds like what you're running wouldn't have sensitive electronics anyways but just curious that is a nice size. Thanks!
We're excited to hear you have been considering one of our generators! We're very happy to share that all the new NorthStar units are manufactured to produce less than 5% THD so that sensitive electronics are safe.
So where's the new technology? Honda came out with their EFI generator (EU7000) 10 years ago and it's an Inverter unit to boot. So I would hardly call this unit new technology. I love how the salesman throws around the "similar to Honda" statements. Right.. they are all similar to Honda until something needs repaired and then you discover there are very limited parts for these Chinese wonders. I'm not surprised Northern doesn't list the noise level of that thing, it is LOUD. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck with it.
Comment.....NIce but the only thing I do not like is, it's the same $ as last years model but does not have a Honda engine, that is not good for the long term.
Wait until the under dash clik clik clik kicks in. I think in the very short term a gen set is ok. After superstorm sandy having had no power for 6 months you find out real quick its not feasible to keep a gen running to keep food.
Sandy was indeed bad. You can only keep so much gasoline on-hand, even non-Ethanol. The key in a long-term emergency when fuel is scarce is to not run the generator 24/7. Only run it the absolute minimum to keep your food fresh or provide heat. Still, the clock is always ticking. The other important thing is to TEST THE SYSTEM. A lot of folks buy an emergency generator but then never go through any mock drills to ensure they have everything they need and know how to make the switch to and from generator. So far the longest I have had to run from generator was 4 days.
yep....this isn't a cure all for off grid living my friend...this is an emergency generator or portable generator, not a run my house for 6 months machine
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer No one really knows just how long a power "emergency" will last but I agree that running from an emergency generator for 6 months would probably be beyond the capabilities of most of our configurations.
Can you adjust the line frequency to 62hz? I don't see the manual online. I ask because if you use this (or any other non-inverter generator) in conjunction with a Solar system, the generator should idle at 62hz and droop to 60hz under load. The reason is that 62hz will cause the solar system to curtail power generation so it doesn't back feed and potentially harm the generator. You should never run an inverter type generator in parallel with a solar system because the inverter generators ALWAYS make 60hz. Again, to be clear.... 62 hz means "solar don't make any/much power" and 60hz means "solar and generator need to make all the power they can". Hope this makes sense.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer yes, any circuit board can be protected. EMP Shield for my Generac Whole House Standy is the same EMP Shield that can be placed on your vehicles and your transfer switch and your breaker box. Good luck.
Hope that the WIFE is feeling OK? Guess that there was a bug? Sorry about the water in the truck. What did the FORD place tell Y'ALL about the problems. Good thing that Y'ALL are getting a generator!!! Any other sources of power or heat if there are MAJOR power problems? Penpal in upper NY near Plattsburgh (?) said that their power went out around 11 AM. Was supposed to be back a 1 PM? Waiting to see. He has a wood burning stove and wood handy so won't freeze to death!
Hey Josh, that's a cool generator with EFI and electronic starting plus it's pretty compact. I was thinking since you already have a couple of tractors, You could probably later on get a PTO generator, that thing would probably power 90% of everything you have and be pretty good on fuel consumption. I bought a new Winco 15kw PTO generator and it's safe for sensitive equipment with less than 5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) about 5 years ago and it only requires 30 pto hp at max output. I have an old 1968 MF135 diesel tractor and it pulls it like nothing and only uses about 1 gph of fuel under full load. Even if you could get a bigger generator and had a small tractor, it can still be utilized and be used at what ever the tractor could put out at max output. I guess I'm thinking about how other people have done things in the past and was something that I have followed that works good on the farm when the power goes out. Keep up the cool videos👍
lol....go price one my friend....oh don't forget the inspections and the propane tank rental. I can use this anywhere on the farm, take it camping or run power equipment remotely, can't do that with a "sitting there" standby generator. They are nice, don't get me wrong, but this is more versatile and hands on. Dad has a Generac and he loves it, except when the water delay contactors go bad....all of them went bad!
Lol I guess my comment must’ve been funny to you I don’t have to price one. I’ve got like five friends that have whole house generators propane and natural gas $55-$5800 installed don’t know what they are in your area. That’s what they are in mine.
Joshua and see one downside to it and that's if you have a powered outage it will not restart on its own if you're not there you're on a trip or in town or that to me is not a good idea all right this is Bob from Vero Beach Florida God
No Thanks...Don't need. Have my Ford F150 Hybrid with 7.2K ProPower onboard. Nice and quiet, 30g fuel tank and doesn't have to run 100% of the time to generate power for me
I had a whole home generator installed (Generac) since we have Natural Gas, we needed to have a 3/4” gas supply line installed by the gas company (replacing the old 1/2” line). Works great. Kicks on automatically.
A whole house standby Generac with natural gas, and/or a 1,000 gallon propane tank is the way to go, even with a 500 gallon propane pig. Hauling and storing gasoline is not the way to go.
Whole house generators use a LOT of propane@@trajan6927
Get an extra Exhaust head for that thing. They go about 750 hours or so. Remember they are not a PRIME power device, only a backup.
Josh, when I built my home I installed a 20,000 watt, whole-house generator. There is about a five second delay between loosing power and generator startup. We go to warmer parts for the winter and it gives peace of mind knowing our home will be fine. The generator uses natural gas but could be powered by propane if necessary.
She a beauty worth it if that power go down . 👍🏻
In 2008 I bought a small generator. A week after I had the transfer switch installed a powerful Nor'easter came through and dumped 4 feet of snow. It took the power out for 4 days. It saved my house from major damage from frozen pipes etc. Well 15 years later I still have it. Once a month I start it and run the house on it for a short time. I can't tell you how many times it has saved me. I have a philosophy about owning a generator. It's similar to having health insurance. It's there if you need it. If you don't have it and need it then your shit out of luck.
That's a good point. Even though I use non-Ethanol fuel I run my generator for a few minutes every month during the winter and every 3 months during the summer.
That's a good point. Even though I use non-Ethanol fuel I run my generator for a few minutes every month during the winter and every 3 months during the summer.
In 1998, I got my Generac XL 5500. This was to be ready for 2000. I used to run it once a month, but that got to be a pain in the butt. So I read the manual and placed it into long term storage mode. Change the oil&filter, run it out of gas, place an little oil in the cylinder and pull the handle a cycle until the valves close, then put the plug back in. It sat there for several years until the first big outage. Then it started on one pull and ran the house for a few days. Then, it goes back into storage mode. Now I only fire it up once a year and run some vacuums to make sure the windings work, but the rest of the year it stays in storage mode. It gets an emergency work out about every 5 years, and still starts on the first pull. It is the best maintained motor at our house.
That's a power plant on wheels. 🚜-Woooo!!
that reminded me i need to run my big Honda for a little while
Nice generator
Looks great Brother. That is some serious peace of mind in a box, may you never need to use it. There is NOTHING like being prepared.
Also remember Josh, No matter WHAT you do, some people will not like you and that's OK. Not everyone has good taste.
Give our best to Mrs. Stoney Ridge, I wish you the best my friend. God Bless
we got the 13000 kw 8 years ago fom them.. we powered our shop and when the power would go out we back feed the house as well. worked great for years. now we have a gas powered 32,000 kw back up for everything. we built a fancy house over ours on one of there 4 wheel pull trailors. A idea..
Hey Josh thank you for the video Woo
Thank you. Looks impressive.
Very cool. I have a North Star 8500 for the city house. I have two more generators at the farm. My farm ones are dual fuel. Propane and Gas.
awesome as always.thanks for sharing and taking us along.
The NorthStar e14000s Commercial-Grade Generator looks right at home on your farm, Josh! So glad you had a smooth pickup experience at the Colfax store, and that your first impressions of the unit are positive. We're looking forward to hearing more feedback the longer you use the machine. Take care!
Have a good day on the SRF!!
Check your third brake light.
Mine was leaking.
Since this is for emergencies, after putting in the transfer switch, how much gas will you be storing for this unit. 12 gal for 10 hours run time for 6000W. So for each day, if you run it all day, you will need 27 gallons of fuel, and 100 Gal may last 4 days. Then, you have to rotate your emergency fuel every 6 months, if you do not run propane. Since the tractor is diesel, did you consider a PTO Generator, or a diesel generator for backup power?
Yes pto generator is an excellent option. I have a 2210 tractor w/ pto generator have had in 04 & 09 ran it for 24/7/3days rest of emergency’s only 4/12 hrs
Was a service advisor for Dodge. I've had customers vehicles awaiting parts longer than that. I felt bad for the guy. Brand new truck, he only had it two months. I had it four.
Wish I had a Northern Tool near me. Nice generator as I too am in the market for one but with pure sine wave technology to power all my sensitive electronics.
@Flatlander, Pure sine wave?? Are there devices between the generator and Your home that could SOLVE the problem? Just curious??
We're growing at a steady pace, so there's a chance we'll have a store near you soon! We also wanted to share that all the new NorthStar generators are manufactured with less than 5% THD so that sensitive electronics are safe.
this generator produces pure sine wave 5% THD
I was able to pick up a Generator for the house this summer. When we had the house built, had the electricians install a hook up for a generator, will be able to run the essentials plus!
We changed houses last year and this spring I built an outbuilding. For the outbuilding, I ran 10-4 power in both directions under ground. For normal times 240V/30 amp can be sent to the building, and in an emergency 240V/30 amps can be sent to the house and run through a transfer switch. It was twice the amount of cable, but it gives a lot of options.
@@gibblespascack1418 Do hope that ALL has worked out as planned? Options are GOOD as long as NOT too complicated.
The last house I had an interlock and 50 feet of 10- 4 rubber tool cable to get from the outbuilding to the house. It was always raining, or snowing when plugging it into the house and generator. I did not think about 2 cables when I did the last house. This time, It will be better with 2 underground cables and hopefully I will get a 50 amp, 10 position manual transfer switch for Christmas(my wife needed an idea). If everything works out, I will be able to set it up with an option for an inline whole house UPS system. And like the last house, there will be a protocol to follow for the rest of the family if I am not home when it is needed. @@jtc1947
Thats a good reveiw thank you
You should do a video of a transfer switch installation so the generator can be
connected directly to your house. A very valuable feature would be the ability to
run the unit on propane.
Thanks god bless
Hey, on that well pump, and if the AC is not a mini-split, get an AC motor control, like a Micro-Air or the other brand. It will help a bunch.
@halled...Hope that Josh & Wife will read the comments and take advantage of GREAT IDEAS??
@@jtc1947 I don't write a bunch, only suggest. Most won't read, and the few that do, want me to do it for them for free. So I no longer expound on them.
@@halledwardb Hope that somebody will take advantage of Your knowledge! BE SAFE
Hey Josh! After seeing your generator, I ran by Northern Tool & Equipment to research a similar genny to handle our house. We currently have a 7.5kW pull-start Ryobi that connects via big cable to a subpanel that runs the circuits powering heat, well, freezer, fridges, and kit/LR/master BR. However, we put a heat pump to replace the main AC and configured our heat as electric above 35F and LP below. So we need to get HVAC and electrician to add the heat pump to the generator subpanel, and to advise how big the generator needs to be. I expect the little brother to yours, at about 10kW, would be good. Then the little missus could start it. I really like the fuel/oil/filter life indicators. Thanks for showing the tool!
Great video
Looking forward to your review after putting it to work a few times.
Did you consider a tractor powered unit?
That is a nice generator. Sounds like you hear the power head over the engine. I like it
In the past I sold similar products. Northstar has a good reputation. Our personal generator has a 4,000 watt capacity. So that’s fridge, freezer, etc. And, it’s not quiet. I give you high marks for your generator selection.
It’s plenty as long as no electric ovens or electric dryers are added on.
Well pump....HVAC that's what keeps your pipes from freezing my friend. Fridge, freezer doesn't draw much but hot water, HVAC and well pump is what we're really after to keep us from having to spend the $$$ to repair everything that breaks when frozen
@BC? Just curious? How far away from the house is Your gadget? Did You have to BUILD or install a special shelter to protect the unit?? BLESSED BE!
@@jtc1947 It’s on wheels. Usually locked away. I have enough cords so I can park it twenty feet behind the house, muffler facing away.
@@bcgrittner Hope that You have Excellent SECURITY against theft? Penpal worked for a power utility and a FARMER had His generator stolen. Had NO idea until the house turned cold. The thieves powered up a lawn mower to hide the theft! BE CAREFUL!
You did the right thing! A portable gasoline generator is the way to go IMO. Natural gas standby is dependent on things beyond your control. Propane is WAAAYYY too expensive to run for long periods.
Propane is cheaper than gas and is way more efficient, what do you mean…
You mean that propane does not need to be rotated every 6 months like stabilized gas. Also in an emergency, cost becomes irrelevant when you need to stay warm in the winter while keeping the fridge and freezers cold. It is all temporary and usually never more than a week. @@Ragecon87
Gasoline under Bidenomics is very expensive now, and will be hard to get in time, and certainly under a massive power outage or EMP. , and will only get worse. Propane is only $1.59. Plenty of propane and natural gas.
@@Ragecon87 Propane is substantially less energy dense. Then you have the expense of tanks or a giant tank on the property subject to being dependent on the propane company coming to refill. Trust me, I know. I have lived through countless hurricanes.
My 16KW Generac Standby under a full load is only 1.5 to 2 gallons of clean power per hour. Under a half load about 1 gallon of propane, and I use a lot of power. Propane stores nicely and doesn't go bad. 1,000 gallons would last me for about a month. Storing propane is compact, unlike gasoline. Propane is safer. Good luck with gasoline if you can get it.
Christmas present 🎁 early for emergency service for the mega shop 👍always need a good backup plan 😮😊❤
Josh that is one heck of a portable generator, I love all the features. My favorite would be the carbon monoxide detector!
When Monique and I had our house built the only thing I wanted was a standby generator!
After hurricane Sandy hit Long Island, I would never want to go without power like that again.
I wanted a stand by generator but I don't want a gas tank on my property, so thanks for sharing this , will look into it
@ Dorothy? I take it, that You mean NO big propane or natural gas type tank? Hope that You can find something suitable with reliable sources of fuel!
@@jtc1947 yes no big tank.
@@dorothychester9233 Hope that YOU can find a GREAT SOLUTION!
Nice generator.... make a Faraday cage around it tbough... or could be worthless.
ALSO, buy a back-up 6-8k Dual Fuel as a backup, like Diesel Propane, or gas/propane if this one is diesel
this is dual fuel, gas and propane my friend
Nice job Josh. Way quieter than our Generac. Ours is as loud as a Fighter jet taking off 🛫
Love Harbor Freight here in Michigan but west we had Northern tool
Awesome
Be sure to check the THD Total Harmonic Distortion before plugging in any sensitive electronics. Recommend to be < 5 THD to avoid damage.
Very good reminder for anyone shopping for generators! We've manufactured the entire line of new NorthStar generators with less than 5% THD so all electronics are safe.
It passes
The next video talk about the pros and cons of the dozens of transfer switches with all their bells and whistles and the one you decide to install.
@ CHARLES? YES! Excellent suggestion! Hope that Josh gets ideas from the GREAT COMMENTS!
I’m gonna invest in a MANGO battery backup system; I have an 8500 plus 2 others but I plan to convert the 8500 to propane!
Good luck with your project.
backup battery systems are great, but not 100% reliable, I have 3 broken one's in my shop right now!!!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer is one a Mango unit??
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer ive built 3 med size systems 2400 min. watt solar panels GIandel inverter outback 80 charge controller and 8 12volt 300 ah CHINS BATTERIES all 3 have been running for over 4 years
Wow! That's niiiiiicce!! 😎👍
And here I was feeling all special for finally buying the Oupes 5 solar generator! LOL!
(can't wait for my first shipment of your delicious product!)
Do you have a transfer switch installed that allows you to run both the shop and the house? Also, there are several UA-cam videos on building a generator enclosure that has ventilation for exhaust and keeping the gen cool.
@Terrance? Do Hope that Josh & Wife will show us the "shelter build" for the generator? Can't just leave that piece of gear out and exposed to the weather.
He better get a building permit!!!
@@davidhorne2326 That is an idea but NOT sure that it will be required? Have to wait & see. BE SAFE & WELL
Hi Josh, Haven't seen the install yet? Hope that You have a VERY GOOD shelter for the generator unit? Need to watch the rest of the VID to see????
Love how they compare to Honda engine. Just like the Predator. BUT it ain’t no Honda engine. 😂Looks nice. Even though it’s fuel injected it’s imperative to have fresh fuel and run it periodically.
Right, everyone says "Just like a Honda". LOL I use only non-Ethanol fuel in my Honda EU7000. Using non-corn juice in these is the best thing you can do to ensure reliability. I also noticed there is no pull-start backup on the Northern unit. Probably because no one would have the strength to pull the cord anyway. Keep a jump box handy.
it's arguably better than Honda! Northern tool took the best tech from every engine and built this bulletproof system
@@StoneyRidgeFarmerHmmm.. BETTER than Honda? I guess that's why most commercial equipment like log splitters, water pumps, trash pumps, fuel trailers, etc. all use Northern engines. Only time will tell. Every time someone comes out with something brand new it's suddenly "Better than Honda". I'm not saying Honda is flawless, but their reputation was built over time. Will it start in minus temperatures? Will it continue to run when it's over 100 degrees? I mean, everything works great right out of the box. Time is the only judge of reliability and dependability. It definitely looks like a nice unit power-wise and feature-wise but keep in mind all those fancy whistles and bells can fail and I doubt you'll have much luck with replacement parts. Let's circle back in 10 years and see how it's doing. Again, I hope it does well.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer I’d argue with you that’s it’s better. Honda is king of most reliable small engines.
Think I read where they have modeled their motors after the Raptor motor
Was hear. Woooo
Don't forget to un-bond the neutral in your new generator if you are connecting to an existing electrical system.
@creaky?? Eyes dumb and doan gets out much?" Pls esplain UN-BOND NEUTRAL? I presume that this has to do with the electrical systems?? Thanks
Warning - with EFI generator (from COSTCO) it will not start without battery (EMERGENCY pull start does not work). you better make sure you have a working battery for emergencies!
Generally batteries don't completely die, they may not have power to start the generator, but can sustain it while it's running. Much like when your car clicks when the battery is dead, some power just not enough
@@matt45540 NOT the case based on experience it would NOT run with old battery when doing pull start. As soon as new battery installed, it worked fine.
Could the electronics be affected by an EMP to where it wouldn't function properly?
My thoughts also.
Hybrid Solar with generator backup. Start with minimal battery backup and increase when you can afford. In the long run electricity will rise in price as reliable generator( nuclear/coal);are shut down and partly replaced by erratic renewable wind solar and hydro
WoooooooooooHeeeeeeeeeeeeHeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!Alright!!!!!🤗
I personally woulda gone with. 20+kwh generac uses propane/ natural gas’s which is super efficient and has the sense to auto start when loss of power is detected
When I looked at the price of the Northstar generator, it is $4300. I did not think that it would be that expensive. For another $300, you can get the 14 kw Generac with the whole house transfer switch.
@ Isaiah...With the gub trying to get rid of various types of gasses might think of alternates? I know that I read something about the GREEN NEW DEAL IDIOTS trying to get rid of NATURAL GAS due to METHANE??? BE WELL & SAFE
Can all your subs afford a 4500 dollar generator I don't see it but I do love your new toy.
josh if i deside to get one of these what will it cost me thanks i like it
Wait to try moving it if it takes a fork lift to load it. Why not a permanently mounted GENRAC?
We are thinking of buying a new car. Some hybrid cars allow power out and to use the car’s engine to charge the battery. We are looking at the Mitsubishi Outlander which has this feature. It could be a way to power a few important appliances like a fridge or freezer if there is a blackout.
Of course if the car needs to be driven the appliances no longer have power.
Any update on this unit? I’m seeing some complaint reviews on Northern Tool.
i've replaced the Carbon Monoxide detector...I believe they have a recall on that item..might check with Northern Tool
Northern Tool service dept said they are having some problems with the North Star line. Hopefully they will be sorted out soon. Their Powerhorse line, I believe, has a 13K then goes up to a 20K. ALL Powerhorse and North Star generators are 5% or less thd, and all can be serviced at their stores.
@ thx.
Well Josh, most of us like what we like for some reason ro another. But FoundOnRoadDead would be the last pic of any vehicle for me. I have had my experiences in the past. For the money the Raptor cost, you could have had one kick ass Toyota Tundra.
That is a generator. What portable band saw stand did you reference in your video a while back?
Nice generator would be great if it was dual fuel
It is dual fuel, gasoline and propane.
@@curtisking2962 oh didn’t hear him say that or see the propane connection my bad
You should have been driving the red yotta and I guarantee it will take care of it.
Have you tried your information on the soft starter for your air conditioner system
I don't think I'd be toting it around the farm, those type electronics are somewhat fragilly. If you need a gen, say out in the field to repair a piece of equipment, I'd just get a bobcat welder/generator to power up the the tools needed to get something ready to weld, and then weld it and be done. When they compare themselves to Honda, it just tells me they aren't quiet as good. True it has no carb to gum up, but, injectors gum up too. Fuel tanks also gum up. Esp when they sit for long periods, so, at least once a month start up and run is imperative. I know it's costly, but I'd run ethanol free fuel. Since you live a good ways away from the shop(as of now anyway) You should get yourself one of those alarms like they use on chicken houses that give off a loud alarm to let you know the power is out. Since it doesn't seem this doesn't have an auto start. I think in the future, I get something like the Generac whole home gen with auto start. Then, a trip for a few days out of town will give you more piece of mind. A propane system at that, so it will be worry free in case of something big (think of what happened when Hugo came through or, the blizzard of '93.) I know you probably got it for free or at least a good deal since they sponsor you, but, free isn't always better.
One question though, I see the need to have power run into it to keep the battery up to snuff, but surely it charges it's own battery when running, right?
Looks like a great generator...almost bought a smaller different brand generator on cyber-Monday but ran into a comment about THD (Total Harmonic Distortion). Apparently, generators that produce "dirty" electricity Arnt safe to use with sensitive electronics ...i e systems in newer homes... couldn't load the link for this generator but Norther tool did claim all of its generators produce under 6% THD. Is this something you looked for when buying or is it mentioned anywhere? Sounds like what you're running wouldn't have sensitive electronics anyways but just curious that is a nice size. Thanks!
We're excited to hear you have been considering one of our generators! We're very happy to share that all the new NorthStar units are manufactured to produce less than 5% THD so that sensitive electronics are safe.
@@Northern_Tool Thank you for the quick reply in answering my question ! Will definitely be leaning towards your generators!
Them puppies are 4 grand
Did you buy that log load next to you on the highway? Delivery to the farm .
So where's the new technology? Honda came out with their EFI generator (EU7000) 10 years ago and it's an Inverter unit to boot. So I would hardly call this unit new technology. I love how the salesman throws around the "similar to Honda" statements. Right.. they are all similar to Honda until something needs repaired and then you discover there are very limited parts for these Chinese wonders. I'm not surprised Northern doesn't list the noise level of that thing, it is LOUD. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck with it.
yep, not a salesman my friend and I'm not really sure why anyone would feel the need to put me down for showing ya a tool on tooltuesday
So is it quiet
Comment.....NIce but the only thing I do not like is, it's the same $ as last years model but does not have a Honda engine, that is not good for the long term.
Well....remember that the Honda engine isn't the end all be all of everything my friend. Other companies make great engines too
Wait until the under dash clik clik clik kicks in. I think in the very short term a gen set is ok. After superstorm sandy having had no power for 6 months you find out real quick its not feasible to keep a gen running to keep food.
Sandy was indeed bad. You can only keep so much gasoline on-hand, even non-Ethanol. The key in a long-term emergency when fuel is scarce is to not run the generator 24/7. Only run it the absolute minimum to keep your food fresh or provide heat. Still, the clock is always ticking. The other important thing is to TEST THE SYSTEM. A lot of folks buy an emergency generator but then never go through any mock drills to ensure they have everything they need and know how to make the switch to and from generator. So far the longest I have had to run from generator was 4 days.
yep....this isn't a cure all for off grid living my friend...this is an emergency generator or portable generator, not a run my house for 6 months machine
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer No one really knows just how long a power "emergency" will last but I agree that running from an emergency generator for 6 months would probably be beyond the capabilities of most of our configurations.
Did you consider a military diesel gen say 15-20 kw
Do they make it generators that run off of Do you still feel? I would prefer diesel power than gasoline.
Can you adjust the line frequency to 62hz? I don't see the manual online. I ask because if you use this (or any other non-inverter generator) in conjunction with a Solar system, the generator should idle at 62hz and droop to 60hz under load. The reason is that 62hz will cause the solar system to curtail power generation so it doesn't back feed and potentially harm the generator. You should never run an inverter type generator in parallel with a solar system because the inverter generators ALWAYS make 60hz. Again, to be clear.... 62 hz means "solar don't make any/much power" and 60hz means "solar and generator need to make all the power they can". Hope this makes sense.
Is it EMP protected?
I'm assuming you can put an EMP shield on it, but I don't' know enough about EMP to accurately discuss it
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer yes, any circuit board can be protected. EMP Shield for my Generac Whole House Standy is the same EMP Shield that can be placed on your vehicles and your transfer switch and your breaker box. Good luck.
Hope that the WIFE is feeling OK? Guess that there was a bug? Sorry about the water in the truck. What did the FORD place tell Y'ALL about the problems. Good thing that Y'ALL are getting a generator!!! Any other sources of power or heat if there are MAJOR power problems? Penpal in upper NY near Plattsburgh (?) said that their power went out around 11 AM. Was supposed to be back a 1 PM? Waiting to see. He has a wood burning stove and wood handy so won't freeze to death!
What's the price tag on this beast ? 😯
Damn thats expensive, does it have a inverter?
Hey Josh, that's a cool generator with EFI and electronic starting plus it's pretty compact. I was thinking since you already have a couple of tractors, You could probably later on get a PTO generator, that thing would probably power 90% of everything you have and be pretty good on fuel consumption. I bought a new Winco 15kw PTO generator and it's safe for sensitive equipment with less than 5% THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) about 5 years ago and it only requires 30 pto hp at max output. I have an old 1968 MF135 diesel tractor and it pulls it like nothing and only uses about 1 gph of fuel under full load. Even if you could get a bigger generator and had a small tractor, it can still be utilized and be used at what ever the tractor could put out at max output. I guess I'm thinking about how other people have done things in the past and was something that I have followed that works good on the farm when the power goes out. Keep up the cool videos👍
The entire lineup of new NorthStar commercial-grade generators have less than 5% THD and are completely safe for use with sensitive electronics!
Fords are bad for the 3rd brake light leaking.
How loud is it by decimal
For another $1000 you could have a generac standby generator for the whole deal. Seems smarter to me.
lol....go price one my friend....oh don't forget the inspections and the propane tank rental. I can use this anywhere on the farm, take it camping or run power equipment remotely, can't do that with a "sitting there" standby generator. They are nice, don't get me wrong, but this is more versatile and hands on. Dad has a Generac and he loves it, except when the water delay contactors go bad....all of them went bad!
Lol I guess my comment must’ve been funny to you I don’t have to price one. I’ve got like five friends that have whole house generators propane and natural gas $55-$5800 installed don’t know what they are in your area. That’s what they are in mine.
Joshua and see one downside to it and that's if you have a powered outage it will not restart on its own if you're not there you're on a trip or in town or that to me is not a good idea all right this is Bob from Vero Beach Florida God
Chg that oil way before 20 hr on its first go
GENERAC with a propane tank is a lot better!!!
Since when did they start selling with oil and gas
purchased at my local Northern Tool store....they assembled and tested before I left...seems pretty reasonable my friend
Needs a 50 A 240v outlet for me
Has it
You sure a 14kw has enough power for all that you have?
during a power outage...yes for sure
good morning, how much?
Great question.....every tool Tuesday vid has links to the tools we're showcasing my brother
I power my gen with propane,have a thousand gallon tank.No gas for. me anymore.
Forgot to ask? What is the RECOMMENDED Fuel for the device? Pls be sure that You have GREAT SECURITY against THIEVES!!!
That generator will probably fail just like the Ford and faster.
why?
Why not have Ford clean the inside of your truck?
CO not CO2
Dude, I know you love that raptor but you need to unload that POS and get a different truck.
No Thanks...Don't need. Have my Ford F150 Hybrid with 7.2K ProPower onboard. Nice and quiet, 30g fuel tank and doesn't have to run 100% of the time to generate power for me
Cost?
4,399. Google much?
link in the description for ya
$4400
or just hit the link below and you can see the cost...every tool tuesday vid has links to the tools we're showcasing my brother
5000 dollars
Get rid of that truck. Buy a Tundra
If you dont buy a name brand pickup, at least buy a name brand pair of shoes. Dont buy a Ford.