Considering the Finnish Army had at most 700,000 people in it during the Continuation War, getting over 700,000 casualties in this alternate timeline is definitely quite a lot.
Armies were so big back then bro. Germany attacked Poland with 2 mil, the USSR with 3. The Soviet army at the end of the war was around (or more than) 6 million men in total. 700k for Finland is quite a lot too. We can't imagine this today.
Fun fact: One person who would have taken Mannerheim out of power was Mannerheim himself. He had every chance to become de facto dictator of the country with public support (bit like Ludendorf or Hindenburg of WWI), but immediately when he was able to, he said my job here is done, have democracy back. All he wanted to do was run his child protection alliance. Fun fact 2: It still exists today and is still called "Mannerheimin Lastensuojeluliitto".
Mannerheim POV: Be best Finnish General Lead military government after Soviets invade Inflict heavy casualties on Soviets Prevents Finland from being annexed/puppeted Retires and allows democracy to return to Finland Refuses to elaborate
There is one more secret focus hidden in Finnish Focus Tree. It's called "Innovative Designs". And it is hidden until you do "National Armor Focus [Mutually exclusive with: Sissi]", and "Militarized Society". Its giving 1 Random Building slot, and there 1 Military factory, and its create Hyökkäysvaunu Super Heavy Tank variant on gaining technology Super-Heavy Tank Chassis.
@@aclaymushroomwithaberet7084 I never use them, because they are too late to use. Mostly war with Soviets was already ended. Militarized Society focus needs to be either All Adults Serve or Scraping the Barrel, and you need be keep that focus. And National Armor Focus is too far to get.
To be honest, that path is just the least best of the bunch. All of its paths are good, but definitely need more military governments in Russia and maybe an option to secure Sweden and Norway.
I can see why it's hidden, it doesn't make much sense why Finland would randomly decide to have a monarchy. Maybe it would make more sense if Germany deposed Hitler and had the Kaiser back.
Finland was briefly a monarchy in 1918 after achieving independence, and we even chose a king, but it was abolished and replaced by a republic before the king even came to Finland.
isp, I haven't seen any of your videos in my feed for months, and I am appalled that you haven't achieved 1M subscribers! I've always found your witty humor was entertaining, and that everyone should enjoy it
All of the Finnish branches are decent. Democratic and communist gives a lot of buffs(you can even ask stalin for land lol), fascists gives you division bonuses while historical is arguably the best in the DLC.
Great Hyperwar for Kazan!😂 ISorrow breaks in with some deep lore right there! 🤣 Being from Kazan myself it was joyous to hear my city get some spotlight)
as Finland you can force soviets into a non aggresion pact in 1939 with diplo pressure, in my game i still got the event for Karelia but no war declaration. They had to justify again which gave me more time to hold and wait for Barbarossa.
Italy can invite Portugal to the Axis after Demanding the Baelaric Islands from Spain. Portugal then usually goes in on Spain, who join the Allies as they're at war with the Axis.
Please bring back the rat! I have many nice reasons for the rat. Number 1 is, it will grant you many more subscribers! Second is the fact that the rat is very flattering and very beautiful! Finnaly is the fact that The rat is the rat.
watching members try to come up with a comment to flaunt their early access to videos and ending up with the most bland lifeless comments like bots is kind of sad honestly
@@mooseinthefrontyard i apologize i just used you as my punching bag. i dislike all members that do this and also every single commenter that makes a random comment in the first minutes to try to scrounge likes. it's not personal. i'm sorry.
Actually as a finland main, i can tell you that you can merk on norway, and sweden, before war with soviets, and still get wolfgang, form nordic union and shit and then form the kingdom, lots of cores, lots of manpower, and cool purple color nice:)
This looks more like cosmetic for Finland, you get new leader, color, flag, name and nothing else specific but hey at least they added something related to Finnish monarchy
I did this first Finnish playthough lol. I kept the starting guy since I wanted the reduced surrender limit since I thought I would be fighting until I lost everything
The Lack of a Monarchist Focus Tree for Finland was one of Arms Against Tyranny short comings in my Opinion. The Other being Norway's Monarchist Path Not having the king be in Control.
@@simonnachreiner8380 All because the Dev. Making it didn't Personally believe King Haakon VII wouldn't Do it. It's like Dude it's an alternate History Path No One asked your Opinion. I Hate when Developers shove their Views into things they Don't Belong in.
@@Azrenthe1stHighKing, bruh, Haakon VII wants to make absolutely sure that everyone wants him to be their ruler. If there is even one disagreement, he would retreat and make the kingdom constitutional. Never he was an absolutist on the first place, and the devs just take the King's words for granted.
@@krasnamerah1926 I came here for the King, Not his Chamberlain. All they had to do was Put his Character Portrait as leader of the Unaligned Party and Make his Chamberlain a Political Advisor you can't Remove.
@@Azrenthe1stHighKing , if you want to be pedantic... Maybe Haakon VII can indeed rule, but with one of the worst leader traits to represent his unwillingness to rule. Like war support and political power gain debuffs. And in exchange, make the Chamberlain counteract his King's traits with 50% reversal of King's debuffs that can be upgraded in the focus tree.
i found with any country that has low manpower, get a collab government off on the nearest place you defeat, for you it would be for the soviets. for me when i played as Australia, I got a full collab off on India, joined Japan and i was working with zero manpower for awhile then when I finished India I had 7 million manpower as Australia, just focus spies on the nearest high manpower nation as an small non major when you know yoru heading that way (P.S. I drank too many beers when I wrote this)
He said Hocus Focus my fellow Gravy Timmys!!!!!!!!!
how u post this 17 hours ago
@@jakearosn channel members get the video earlier
@@jakearosn members get access early
@@nikkidakota ok
@@jakearosn He paid to be a Premium Timmy™
Don't have to fight the Continuation War if the Winter War never ends! Comrade Joe is so smart.
Is that ISeizeProductions Joe or *Raises eyebrow slightly* haha that's crazy comrade... photoshop out of history Joe?
Considering the Finnish Army had at most 700,000 people in it during the Continuation War, getting over 700,000 casualties in this alternate timeline is definitely quite a lot.
"sir we've lost the entire army!"
Armies were so big back then bro. Germany attacked Poland with 2 mil, the USSR with 3. The Soviet army at the end of the war was around (or more than) 6 million men in total. 700k for Finland is quite a lot too. We can't imagine this today.
@@lippi2171 Literally 1 million people are involved with the Finnish military today, most are reservists but that's still huge
But here he cored karelia
@@francescomorandi1039 East Karelia has always had a tiny population
Fun fact: One person who would have taken Mannerheim out of power was Mannerheim himself.
He had every chance to become de facto dictator of the country with public support (bit like Ludendorf or Hindenburg of WWI), but immediately when he was able to, he said my job here is done, have democracy back. All he wanted to do was run his child protection alliance.
Fun fact 2: It still exists today and is still called "Mannerheimin Lastensuojeluliitto".
*Kicks Bolshevik ass*
"Alright guys I'm done here. If you need a new Commander-in-Chief I'm like 20 years hit me up"
my god he's the new Cincinnatus
Protects country against commies
Voluntarily hand back the power
Continue to protect children against commies
Mannerheim POV:
Be best Finnish General
Lead military government after Soviets invade
Inflict heavy casualties on Soviets
Prevents Finland from being annexed/puppeted
Retires and allows democracy to return to Finland
Refuses to elaborate
@@germanyluxembourgDXdon't forget helping build a refuge for kids and single mothers with his sister. And lighting a fat cigar in front of Hitler
if ever strapped on manpower. converting convoys into crusiers and destroyers spawns men out of thin air so you can disband them and get more men
true, your navy consumes manpower when the ships are built so if you receive any ships without building them you can disband them for free manpower
It's not much but it's something for a minor nation at least.
My favourite part of any focus tree is when suddenly paradox says "no".
hocus pocus, there's finland on your focus
There is one more secret focus hidden in Finnish Focus Tree.
It's called "Innovative Designs". And it is hidden until you do "National Armor Focus [Mutually exclusive with: Sissi]", and "Militarized Society".
Its giving 1 Random Building slot, and there 1 Military factory, and its create Hyökkäysvaunu Super Heavy Tank variant on gaining technology Super-Heavy Tank Chassis.
is it a good tank?
@@aclaymushroomwithaberet7084 Super heavy, Finland prob can't do much with that high of a production cost
@@davemiller638 yeah true
@@aclaymushroomwithaberet7084 I never use them, because they are too late to use. Mostly war with Soviets was already ended.
Militarized Society focus needs to be either All Adults Serve or Scraping the Barrel, and you need be keep that focus.
And National Armor Focus is too far to get.
This video is probably longer than it took Paradox to code this secret path
To be honest, that path is just the least best of the bunch. All of its paths are good, but definitely need more military governments in Russia and maybe an option to secure Sweden and Norway.
The Greater Kingdom of Finland has some real "Daniel/The Cooler Daniel" vibes to it.
That peace conference really put the Iran into Arian
I can see why it's hidden, it doesn't make much sense why Finland would randomly decide to have a monarchy. Maybe it would make more sense if Germany deposed Hitler and had the Kaiser back.
I mean in the focus it says the guy who leaded finland wanted it, so it's obvious because prince wolfgang is epic
Finland was briefly a monarchy in 1918 after achieving independence, and we even chose a king, but it was abolished and replaced by a republic before the king even came to Finland.
Originally we were supposed to get a german prince as king when we got our independence, but then germany kinda lost WW1.
Paradox AI heard the Germans going on about being the Aryan race and decided to relocate them to the historic Aryan homeland.
We are finnishing off this focus tree today
isp, I haven't seen any of your videos in my feed for months, and I am appalled that you haven't achieved 1M subscribers! I've always found your witty humor was entertaining, and that everyone should enjoy it
Guys only 9k more subs until the Alf Landon RAT playthrough im so excited
All of the Finnish branches are decent. Democratic and communist gives a lot of buffs(you can even ask stalin for land lol), fascists gives you division bonuses while historical is arguably the best in the DLC.
Playing Finland while listening to Säkkijärven Polkka is a great combo
That song was the sole reason I opted to pre-order.
Worth every euro.
Throw in some Orvokki and Njet Molotoff
I'm pretty sure that the King guy's trait is a brilliant trait though. 2.5% recruitable is much better than Mannerheim's 1%
Great Hyperwar for Kazan!😂
ISorrow breaks in with some deep lore right there! 🤣
Being from Kazan myself it was joyous to hear my city get some spotlight)
as Finland you can force soviets into a non aggresion pact in 1939 with diplo pressure, in my game i still got the event for Karelia but no war declaration. They had to justify again which gave me more time to hold and wait for Barbarossa.
New idea for series. A-Z in formable nations.
HollowBeing is already doing that. He's super underrated and makes my favorite HoI4 videos.
That isn’t a long series
@@EelainerHOLLOWBEING IS THE GOAT
Hollowbeing used my East Indies mod to form Greater Indonesia before ISorrow did. So he's the best one.
VALMIINA 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Very excited to see a historical Swiss playthrough. Pls isp its sooo fun.
It does sound interesting when ISP pronounces "kokoomus" as "cocoa moose". It hits different.
Imagine not being able to make river ports.
Truly, Sun Tzu would be rolling in his grave.
10:51 But, yes, you are !
Aruba, Jamaica, Bermuda, Bahama, Key Largo, Montego. Oooh I wanna take you to Kokoomus.
Sun Tzu probably say: _"Subscribe to Sorrow, and Alf become true."_
Ah yes, Post-war German Iran. Very normal.
they told the germans "you want to be aryan so bad?? live in iran!!!"
"You can make the kingdom of Finland?"
If you know you know
Ah yes the resurgence of Pax Finlandia 🇫🇮 🇪🇪🗿👌😎👍
4:46 Oh no, not the Iceland!
Italy can invite Portugal to the Axis after Demanding the Baelaric Islands from Spain. Portugal then usually goes in on Spain, who join the Allies as they're at war with the Axis.
I love watching your videos because I look at your sub count every time to see how close we are tO THE ALF LANDON PLAYTHROUGH BABYYYY!!!
I see, Mr Schmitler actually escaped to Iran instead of Argentina
10:50 What? Yes you are. You are explicitly Finish here.
RAHHHHHH HOCUS FOCUS MENTIONED RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Please bring back the rat! I have many nice reasons for the rat. Number 1 is, it will grant you many more subscribers! Second is the fact that the rat is very flattering and very beautiful! Finnaly is the fact that The rat is the rat.
I'd like some gravy with my Timmys, Monsieur
watching members try to come up with a comment to flaunt their early access to videos and ending up with the most bland lifeless comments like bots is kind of sad honestly
Thanks, bro. Your vigilance is noted.
@@mooseinthefrontyard i apologize i just used you as my punching bag. i dislike all members that do this and also every single commenter that makes a random comment in the first minutes to try to scrounge likes. it's not personal. i'm sorry.
Franco can join the allies in the focus tree
At least your spain joined the allies. Mine just had the carlist rise up and join the axis when i played as unaligned finland on historical
Love that he refrenced the great Finno-Korean Hyperwar
Actually as a finland main, i can tell you that you can merk on norway, and sweden, before war with soviets, and still get wolfgang, form nordic union and shit and then form the kingdom, lots of cores, lots of manpower, and cool purple color
nice:)
Main? What?
This isn't a class based-shooter. Who 'mains' a country?
This looks more like cosmetic for Finland, you get new leader, color, flag, name and nothing else specific but hey at least they added something related to Finnish monarchy
ahhhh go focus go broke-us, my favourite niche hoi4 series
ISP you sly dog! I know what you are up to. This is just an elaborate way to get to Alf Landon isn’t it?
I did this first Finnish playthough lol. I kept the starting guy since I wanted the reduced surrender limit since I thought I would be fighting until I lost everything
Mr. Smitler is banished to rule somewhere irrelevant, hopefully he doesn't return like Napoleon
Next up, Path to Z, where you do every focus tree A to Z, and each path in each focus tree A to Z!
Path to Victory
Well the series is now called Hokus Focus sorry dad
The Lack of a Monarchist Focus Tree for Finland was one of Arms Against Tyranny short comings in my Opinion. The Other being Norway's Monarchist Path Not having the king be in Control.
Yeah the Norwegian monarchist tree is monarchist in name only considering you almost literally pressgang the king into it without him even knowing.
@@simonnachreiner8380 All because the Dev. Making it didn't Personally believe King Haakon VII wouldn't Do it. It's like Dude it's an alternate History Path No One asked your Opinion. I Hate when Developers shove their Views into things they Don't Belong in.
@@Azrenthe1stHighKing, bruh, Haakon VII wants to make absolutely sure that everyone wants him to be their ruler. If there is even one disagreement, he would retreat and make the kingdom constitutional.
Never he was an absolutist on the first place, and the devs just take the King's words for granted.
@@krasnamerah1926 I came here for the King, Not his Chamberlain. All they had to do was Put his Character Portrait as leader of the Unaligned Party and Make his Chamberlain a Political Advisor you can't Remove.
@@Azrenthe1stHighKing , if you want to be pedantic...
Maybe Haakon VII can indeed rule, but with one of the worst leader traits to represent his unwillingness to rule. Like war support and political power gain debuffs.
And in exchange, make the Chamberlain counteract his King's traits with 50% reversal of King's debuffs that can be upgraded in the focus tree.
14:33 ichi go offensive moment
They left the German Reich to the land of true Aryans, Iran.
I heard it wrong and heard "Locus Focus" and tbh that would have been so much more fitting xD
March of the Eagles A-Z when
ISP please please use field hospitals seeing inf pushes without them hurts my soul
Only 9k subs until Alf Landon. Only 9k until eternal happiness.
It’s time for the gravy babies to RISE UP and overthrow the usurper gravy Timothies!!!
Damn, I was expecting it'd be a Finland as heir to Roman Empire, but no. That sounds too fun...
Supply hub? ❌
Land port? ✅
Say "I love Stellaris"
a better and not secret path for germany that no one does is befriending all of your neighbors and turning them fascist instead of annexing them all
Some secrets should remain secrets...
Petition to rename the series to A - Z Sped Ed.
Could have done an achievement by releasing a bunch of the microstates from the USSR's land along with Hungary and Estonia.
ahhhh yes, Hocus Focus by Pocus, my favorite song
Time to do no focus to Z.
Wolfgang Von Hesse is Wolf Van Halen's nemesis
Hocus pocus finnish focus
i found with any country that has low manpower, get a collab government off on the nearest place you defeat, for you it would be for the soviets. for me when i played as Australia, I got a full collab off on India, joined Japan and i was working with zero manpower for awhile then when I finished India I had 7 million manpower as Australia, just focus spies on the nearest high manpower nation as an small non major when you know yoru heading that way (P.S. I drank too many beers when I wrote this)
While I’m happy to see Finland, I’m more excited to see ISP play France. Especially if he either goes the Napoleon or communist route.
I support calling this Hocus Focus.
iSorrowproductions, You're amazing! I hit the like button as soon as I saw it!
huge fan of hearing ISP struggle to pronounce finnish
I have a sudden urge to listen to hocus pocus by focus
That prince looks like ryan gosling
CAN wait for the kaiserin playthrough (submitting to British dominance)
Isorrow did what the comments said?? BRING BACK THE RAT
as a fellow anglophone, i found out that Mannerheim is pronounced Manner-hey-m in Finnish (i found out the hard way)
791,000 subs as I type this…..YAAAASS!! So close now, to ALF!
Okay hocus focus is pretty clever.
Bro is literally Alex the Rambler!
Gotta call the series focus pocus
land night attack from right side gbp is too good to not go, AI isnt smart enough to stack 2 spies to remove entrenchment
SUFFERING CHEESE MAN GOES FINLAND
GIVE US THE RAT!!!
Classic Mattman run
We need a mod that brings Aatami Korpi into the game in some way.
This is the 69th time I've seen the worst focus in hoi4 on this channel
Didn't you already did this one in your Shorts
Hocus Focus, there is another horrible focus tree on your Focus
I think you mean best, Mr. Sorrow.
One video closer to the magnificent Kingdom of Franco-Spain
When you do greece, could you do greater greece instead of byzantium?
aah perfect, was just scrolling for something to do
Lore of The Worst Secret Path In Hearts Of Iron IV momentum 100
Petition for ISP to play Syndicalist Italy/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 58
Interesting focus tree, but where’s the rat tho?