What CORPSE BRIDE Teaches About Handling Heartbreak with guest Rebecca Parham
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How do you make peace with heartbreak? How do you live in integrity?
Happy Halloween! Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker, filmmaker Alan Seawright, and returning guest Rebecca Parham of @LetMeExplainStudios are celebrating spooky season by reacting to Corpse Bride. They’re talking about the psychology of heartbreak, mostly from Emily’s perspective, and how she navigates loss. Jonathan talks about Victor’s journey of heartbreak and reconciliation and how Victor, and all of us, can learn to heal. Alan and Rebecca discuss the beautiful melancholy of Corpse Bride’s design, and Rebecca shares why this is the ultimate Tim Burton movie. She also explains the magic of facial animation. It’s all in the eyes!
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Written by: Megan Seawright, Jonathan Decker, and Alan Seawright
Produced by: Jonathan Decker, Megan Seawright, Alan Seawright, and Corinne Demyanovich
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English Transcription by: Anna Preis
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I actually appreciated that they made Victoria likable, and not bratty and demanding, as most fiancées are depicted in movies. I like to think that if Victor and Victoria had a daughter, they'd have named her Emily, and she'd have a fascination with butterflies.
Something I’ve heard recently is so much hate towards Victoria for being selfish and only wanting marriage, and also Emily for stealing Victoria’s chance at happiness. We don’t see much of Victoria and Victor’s relationship, we see he has more chemistry with Emily, but we do see Victoria is neglected by her cruel parents and is marrying into Victor’s newly rich family because her family is bankrupt. Emily on the other hand has been waiting for years for someone to ask for her hand so she can be at peace. She does technically kidnap Victor but once he understands her situation and thinks Victoria is marrying someone else, he offers to give his life for Emily. That is true kindness. He is not a bad guy, he’s just a shy, sheltered guy who has good intentions. I understand all the arguments made about Victoria and Emily, but when you step back and see things from their perspective you can understand they just want to be happy and they do care for Victor. He cares for them as well, although he was terrified of getting married and making a mess of the wedding rehearsal, he is still a good guy under pressure to marry into nobility by his parents.
I used to want Victor to end up with Emily instead of Victoria, but then everyone involved would have been miserable. Victor would have to die to be with Emily, she'd have felt guilty for forcing him away from everyone he knew, and Victoria would have been trapped in an unhappy marriage with Barkis, who likely would have eventually killed her.
I know many people wanted Emily and Victor to end up together but I love the ending. Like they said, Emily didn't love him that way but still he helped her so much so much and in the end gave her the closure she needed.
Can we talk about how Victoria was willing to put herself in danger, threat of being put in an asylum, just to save Victor? She doesn’t get enough love!
Was a joy to speak about this Halloween classic with you two!! Thanks for having me onboard!
What’s weird to me is that everyone always mentions what Emily wants but not what victor or Victoria wants. Even if it sounds messed up, Emily already had her life. It was pretty much an innuendo from the start that victor wanted to kill himself before he met Victoria. And Victoria was miserable until she met Victor and actually fought to keep him. I don’t know why she even gets hate tbh. Victor liked Victoria since they first met and towards Emily, it felt more of a forced marriage than his actual one with Victoria. Also I was fine with the ending as a kid I don’t understand why a lot of people hated it.
Something I love is that when Emily shows up, Victoria BELIEVES Victor. They have a relationship of trust.
I appreciate how Victor attempts to be respectful to her parents as it demonstrates how he truly loves Victoria and understands that her complex relationship with them is not the same as his frustration toward their attitude.
I think its unfair to talk about Victor's "selfishness" and his hurting Emily when he's literally been kidnapped and Emily won't listen to his explanations. Folks are allowed to hurt the people that force them to marry them aganist their wills
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I’m going to respectfully disagree that Victor is acting “selfishly.”
Kinda realized how the worm is kinda representative of her inner thoughts, the selfish ones, or rather the strong feelings she bears.
This is literally the perfect trio to be talking about movies.
Their piano duet is EVERYTHING. One of the most communicative, emotional pieces of music I’ve heard in recent years…
I am so tired of the hatred toward Victoria when she didn’t even do anything wrong. Like she’s a victim of neglect and abuse from her family and was sold off like chattel for them not to end up in the poor house not once but twice. And thankfully things worked out and she and Victor ended up developing a real love between them but if she hadn’t been so lucky? Probably would have been worse for her. But she literally does nothing wrong over the entire runtime.
I know it gets glossed over in this episode because Emily's heartbreak is more core to the story than her actual death, but I also like to think that part of her reaching fulfillment at the end is the realization of who Barkis is and what he did to her. Not just the solving of that last lingering mystery, but connecting that all of her heartbreak, her desire to be a bride, all those years of pining... was ultimately because of a man who was, to put it lightly, a complete asshole. If Rebecca's interpretation of Emily is someone who's been living in heartbreak, a state that feels like death, Barkis is the one that put her there, both literally and figuratively. By confronting him and what he did to her, I think that's what helps her realize that while she wants to be a bride, what she needed was that sense of closure, and marrying Victor wouldn't give her that.
such a powerful movie about how a woman can be neglected to the point she accepts whoever to love her and Victor learning how important Victoria is to him and his life and that he truly loves her and is not marrying her for money such an underrated movie
I also like how Victor grows up. He starts out timid and terrified of everything and grows to be a loving, caring, and brave man.